Why the sudden obsession for Y2K/2000s nostalgia in indieslop cartoons?
>>154536638zoomgolems dont have a culture of their own so they latch onto others
Pan-Pizza is a piece of shit.
>>154536638It's>trying to be different>but also replicate nostalgia>but also by people who barely consumes the stuff they're trying to replicateWorse thing that can happen to indie projects is to go long term into hollowed slop
>>154536638It was pure sovl before animation went to shit.
>>154536638Nostalgia follows a 20 year cycleYour time is over, 90s millennial boomer
>>154537320Y2K is millennial retard
>>154536638Could you even consider the top one to be a cartoon? There’s less than like 2 minutes of actual “show” with no plot and no sense of direction, and from what I remember, the animation studio that was working with them dropped them a while ago. Planetronika at the very least understands what it’s trying to be and has more going for it than IWEYG does
I don't know, but I find it incredibly strange because most of the people making crap were probably not old enough to experience real life during that time. I was born in 1992, but I wouldn't consider myself a real 90s kid because I was 7 when then 90's ended.
>>154536638Because the 00s were the last time cartoons in general were good or at least had some soul and originality.>>154537320>nostalgia explain everythingNo it doesn't. I'm nostalgic about a lot of 80s, 90s and even 00s stuff, but a lot less 10s stuff and almost no 20s stuff. Animation is becoming worse with every decade, as an art form, as entertainment and as a storytelling medium. It's a fucking fact.
>>154536638The one in the bottom is a pet project, it has probably been cooking since the 2ks and somehow it still sucks.
>>154537521No
>>154537521Big facts
>>154537563Wrong
>>154537521>i'm more nostalgic for things further in the past than closer to the presentYeah, that's... how that works.
Happy Days, a 50s nostalgia show, debuted in 1974. The Wonder Years, a 60s nostalgia show, debuted in 1988. That 70s Show, which is self-explanatory, debuted in 1998. We're hitting that time.
>>154536638Because people that grew up in that era are making cartoons now? Pretty obvious
>>154537521>I'm nostalgic about a lot of 80s, 90s and even 00s stuff, but a lot less 10s stuff and almost no 20s stuff.You heard it here first. This retard is nostalgic for things from his childhood/teenage years, so absolutely nobody else is allowed to be nostalgic for anything else.Shut up faggot.
Makes sense to me. There was a big change In the presentation of animation and televized cartoons when things started to go digital. It was particularly noticeable in that time frame when older animation techniques were clashing with newer digital effects. And it was everywhere. Yet up until this point there hasn't been a lot of media that consciously acknowledges the aesthetic that came a long with it. At the same time, there's inevitably a great deal of people who specifically grew up and got into animation around this time. It makes sense they would be influenced by, and want to pay homage to this style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2MBxYTUQWY
>>154536675I know at least two of these are by millennials though.And I just don't know much about the other.
>>154536638That Loki poster looks cool.Too bad the actual pilot looks nothing like that.
>>154536638Calling something “___slop” is not a valid criticism why you do not like something
>>154536638It's comfyhttps://youtu.be/0M2BtFf5Eg8
>>154536675Interesting theory however older Gen Zers grew up watching early 2000s cartoons
>>154538197I think anons forget that gen z is starting to push 30
>>154538197Zoomers born after like 2004 should just be lumped in with Gen Alpha I feel like. Gen Z from like ‘97-‘03 was the last generation of kids to actually play outside and watch cartoons. I hate being lumped in with the iPad kid generation. We are not the same
>>154536638Because the 90s era of nostalgiatards are long dead.
>>154538790Sometimes I wonder genuinely what the fuck was wrong with Ben. We still have guys like him around, like Dylan, and (to an extent) John, but when you look at any one of these people in a vacuum, you wonder how they came to be mentally handicapped and why their disability is indistinguishable from the average “””autistic””” guy for most people when they’re so flagrantly stupid.
>>154536638nostalgia
>>154537521>Hurr how come I'm not nostalgic for things that happened yesterday, but I am nostalgic for things that happened during my childhood?That's how nostalgia works, you absolute waste of oxygen. /co/ just keeps proving to be the dumbest board on this site again and again.
>>154538833>Sometimes I wonder genuinely what the fuck was wrong with Ben.He's from the South.
>>154536638Because the new adults creating art were kids and are still obviously inspired by the art and culture they saw in their childhood. It's not rocket science.
>>154536638>suddenIt’s been that way for a while, kid, and this is not some new phenomenon.
>>154538189This looks promising.
>>154537953Some people are really unable to accept that 2000s kids are adults or approaching adults.
>>154536638The great 20-30 year nostalgia gap, in 20 years we should start seeing an obsession with Gravity Falls, Regular Show, Phineas and Ferb, and SVTFOE.
>>154536638Because they're made by people who grew up with 2000s cartoons
nostalgia takes about 20 years to kick in hard
>>154542095>Phineas and FerbThat's already old enough for people to have some form of nostalgia with it. As for the rest, lord help us all when they get spammed on here more than usual. If this site even lasts that long.
>>154542113Phineas and Ferb came out in the 2000s
>>154542431Exactly my point, GF, RS, and SVTFOE are 2010s shows.
>>154536638>How it feels growing up in the 2000s and being able to rewatch shows from that era without retards making fake nostalgia bait shit. Butterfly has to be the most forced female character I have ever seen, nothing about her design is original and she looks like a cartoon character that was made as a joke for a 2000s live action sitcom. Her design is just a hodgepodge of better designs but we're supposed to support her because she shakes her ass and apparently that's based. She's as basic as mayonnaise mixed with ketchup. >"But but the vibes man, it's comfy."Nah I'm not dropping my standards so retards can gloat on Twitter.
>>154536638Because everything has gotten gayer & browner thanks to enshitification.
>>154536638>Why the sudden obsession for Y2K/2000s nostalgia in indieslop cartoons?Because theirs been a demand for nostalgia for the 90s and 2000s era for a while but retard boomer execs refuse to cater to this niche because they stubbornly refuse to make anything that isnt a reboot of something from the 1980s.
>>154536638Top reminds me of time warp trio
>>154544611>these ARE the same toys you bought in the 1980'sbut with lower quality materials
>>154537991Huh interesting, The only song I heard from Len was that "Steal my sunshine" song
>>154536638Pan thinks his shit is y2k aesthetics, but he refuses to actually study any art because he's so convinced his shitty style is iconic enough on its own
>>154544645I used to love this fucking show as a kid>>154544665>but with lower quality materialsIs it though? I know the paint detail on reissues is usually shittier at least
>>154544698https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NjOsbTNpqw
>>154536638Look at how diverse these 3 styles are. Compare that to modern samey bean mouth where character design prioritized ease of rigging over actual aesthetics.
>>154544985>using "bean mouth" unironically in big 2026
>>154546501>still pretending we didn't go through an era of near omnipresent beanmouth style
>>154536638Because pre-9/11 to the mid 2000’s was the last time shit was good.
>>154536638It's gonna the last nostalgia cycle. After this it's smartphones and bullshit.
>>154536638Past trends are like a fucking religion to zoomers.
>>154536638every generation obsesses over their older brother's childhood. boomers loved the 50s despite nor really experiencing it themselves, Gen X loved the 70s despite not really experiencing it themselves, millennials loved the 80s... on and on.
>>154546986>Gen X loved the 70severyone born after the 70s gets to this phase, I know my millennial classmates did
>>154546986You're off on all of these. The baby boom started after WW2 in 1945, hence the term, Gen X was 1965, Millennials in 1980.
>>154536638One nostalgia trend I can get behind is the readoption of 4:3A lot of cartoons genuinely look better that wayNo VHS filters, just the aspect ratio is all I want
shit like this has to be bait right??? I don't understand why fucks like you are shocked that the 2000s are the new nostalgia focus
>the 2000's was TWENTY years agoif you think about it at that time nostalgia for the 80's was also big
>>154536638Because people who grew up watching this are old enough to have finally made their own.
>>154548590>at that time nostalgia for the 80's was also bigit still is
>>154536638>Slop.jpg stupid thread
>>154536638They lack personality outside of era based consumption but the 80s and 90s is already taken and they want to feel special
>>154536638ironically the first one in the OP is crashing and burning right now because the creator went full retard and trooned out Xis characters and pretty much all support has back out kek
>>154549378First one looked like Temu TATDL.
>Loki IRLIt's been Pan's signature style for years so you can cut him out, the rest however are posers.
>>154536638Millenials are just starting to get into positions of power to do this kind of thing. Why the huge 80's push from the 2000's onwards?Why the 90's push from 2015 or so?
>>154537326Millennial are 90s fags retardGo suck off ren and stimpy like the retard you are
>>154549413I'm a zoomer and love R&S too, it's one of the greatest cartoons ever made period.
>>154536638Stuff like Zenless Zone Zero and Bombrush Cyberpunk putting the aesthetic back in the limelight.
>>154544985That was just Gaytroon Network.
>>154549421>it's one of the greatest cartoons ever made period.
>>154549569NTA but while i love ren and stimpy and think it is genuinely good, rockos modern life and spongebob mog its ass in terms of being better 90s nicktoons
>>154536638Because 1990s nostalgia has to be skipped lest people realise/remember the time between the fall of the Soviet Union and 9/11 was actually peak humanity and we have only been declining since then.
>>154549478Stfu, projecting fag
>>154536638Because 90s nostalgia is ending and now it's all about 2000s nostalgia.
>>154536638>have to wait 1000000 years for Planetronika episode 2 Bums me out a bit...
butterfly is literally wearing the outfit from Butterfly by smile.dk
>>154544645the kid with red shirt and glasses looks like puff puff from your favorite martian
>>154546585there is already zoomers nostalgic for smartphones from 2013
>>154552414Lol she really is
>>154549378Qrd?
>>154536638Because millenials are largely hitting their 30-40s and starting to release content that suits their tastes and reviving 2000s trends they grew up with majority of entertainment for the longest time was dominated by boomer and Gen-X creators.
>>154538833Shitty upbringing. I should know, cause I'm friends with him and I've been helping him as much as he helped me. He's doing much better now that he's divorced himself from the internet.>>154538879North actually lol
>>154536638>a whole generation of artists that were kids on the 2000s are adults nowaww gee bro i dunno why it's a complete mystery
>>154555361>North actually lolWait, really? That's bizarre, his accent made me think otherwise.
>>15453663800s are the new 80s
>>154556729
>>154550873Why is '90s nostalgia ending? Feels like it was JUST starting...
>>154538790The era of creative 90’s nostalgia hardly ever happened, we’ve been stuck with 80’s nostalgia for 20 years now and zoomers are obsessed with constantly making superficial attempts at replicating what they grew up with. The 90’s had some of the best cartoons since the animation golden age and had an actual strong culture unlike the 80’s where it was all overrated consumerist slop, where was the wave of nostalgia appreciating that? Millennials didn’t make cartoons that took the right lessons from great 90’s shows like Ren & Stimpy and Batman: TAS, they instead made tumblr garbage like Steven Universe and Adventure Time that played a major role in why western animation went to shit. The sheer fact that 90’s cartoons legacy in the 2010s was autistic YouTubers making videos about hidden adult jokes or nightmare fuel or whatever the fuck is depressing.
>>154536638Nostalgia peaks when the future is bleak
>>154558395The best of the 90s cartoons were from a perfect storm of circumstances that can't really be replicated. Just try to imagine BTAS without the music of Shirley Walker. Dini and Timm having to write around standards and practices, and sometimes even voluntarily pulling back when even they thought they'd gone too far. Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy becoming voice legends. Directed by Andrea Romano. It's greater than the sum of it's parts, but removing even one would have made it less special.
>>154536638SHUT UP, I'm thinking about armpits!
>>154536638Because the aesthetics were all peak.https://youtu.be/H1d_aEantvc?si=3XEqvnNt-E1T_mi3
>>154544645There isn't much art of them with their granddaughters. I consider this a genuine tragedy.
top "sho" is just a small short with 2 tranny characters that are some how jojo references.Middle one was fucking great.Loki IRL was a fucking terrible idea.
>>154558644pitslut
testing to see if this retarded ip ban is lifted
>>154538865>>154537959>>154537892Can't you idiots read? I'm still nostalgic for some things from the 20s. I haven't outgrown nostalgia. And guess what, I'm not one of those idiots nostalgic for awful shit just because it was part of my childhood. I still revisit and like all the stuff I'm nostalgic for from the 80s. Because it was good then and still is now. My peak cartoon-watching years were actually populated with 60s-70s cartoons, but I'm not nostalgic about many of those because they mostly sucked with how cheap they looked and how lazily they were written.
>>154555591He's in the middle of the north so that must be where the heavy accent came from. The middle of the country is the most country it seems kek
>>154559913welcome back anon, you're free.
>>154552414>>>/wsg/6192237https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzcvRDWgRIE
>>154555290not much to say really>Basically some dude made a bunch of OCs with early MTV vibes>Because we've been in toon slump for like 5 years, his designs gain some traction and he world builds>somehow grifts some random studio into working on a pilot for him>naturally we're in a gay timeline so mentally ill teenagers and childless 30 years imprint on the characters and make their gay tumbr fanon for characters that barely exist yet>desperate 3rd world creator thinks this is a great idea and troons out half his character>also decided to take the cute 2000s brown girl, the entire lynchpin of the operation, morph her into a fat goblina>naturally 95% of people interested in this project says "no way fag" and rides their jetski into the sunset>studio realizes this guy is a moron and isnt their golden ticket and nopes the fuck out>Project is effectively abandoned but of course the artist is coping hard and says he'll go small scale and put out shorts for all 7 of his remaining troon fans...eventually Really just another pan pizza case where just because you're autistic enough to grind your social media numbers doesnt mean you can be a showrunner.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCvazVHHwU
>>154536638It was an objectively better time and had better aesthetics
>>154561197>objectively
>>154561557Correct
>>154538331ThisI'll turning 38 tomorrow, grew up on ee edd n eddy and Billy and mandy
>>154537921>In 2040 we'll have shows talking about how great the Covid-Trump-Biden era was.Damn
>>154536638Loki IRL was kinda mid ngl...
>>154536638Late-20's and early-30's are getting nostalgic about their childhoods/teenagehood?
>>154561731Absolutely, so much people will say:>without COVID lockdown, I probably would never start doing [thing]The lockdown will be a major nostalgic experience.
>>154560311>The middle of the country is the most country it seems kekHeh, I can sort of tell from personal experience while my dad and I were on a road trip to Florida.
>>154558395>Millennials didn’t make cartoons that took the right lessons from great 90’s shows like Ren & Stimpy and Batman: TASThe millennials influenced by Spumco decided to become Newgrounds hobbyists (HotDiggedyDemon, Zeurel, etc) rather than industry slaves
>>154537389Cuphead devs weren't alive in the 1920s but then they made Cuphead. There is nothing wrong with liking a style from the past and trying to replicate it and refine it as best you can.
>>154561731>>154562432Putin has one of the most profound quotes when it comes to this.>Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain.It's normal to want a comfortable past back, but to actually try and bring it back is retarded.
>>154563114Anons on /pol/ were desperate for hantavirus to become the next covid. They made 100 generals there only for less than 15 to become infected and 3 deaths that haven't increased since it started 3 months ago
>>154558395>zoomers are obsessed with constantly making superficial attempts at replicating what they grew up with.For the last time, Zoomers are not making these cartoons. The people making this stuff are probably around the same age you are (if you're a millennial).
>>154561132forgot to mention that the project began as some Jotaro x Kakyoin gay fanfiction
>>154536638remember how beatniks were everywhere in 90s cartoons despite the fact that by the 90s they were utterly extinct and the kids from that decade had no fucking clue of what they were?
>>154563972Yeah I always wondered what these guys deal was
>>154558644terrible fetish
>>154563681I can tell, it looks like shit. LokIRL also looks bad.From these examples Planetronika is the only one that looks good and gets the vibe right
>>154537320>>154556729brief this
>>154565971Planetronika nailed the aesthetics perfectly but the writing is a mess. The synopsis says that the main character is an space explorer but you would never find that out just by watching the pilot alone
>>154563972Beatnik girls gave me the love for girls with bobcuts and berets i have today. Pulp fiction didn't help either.
>>154536638Kids who grew up watching y2k stuff are now old enough to have had jobs, and start up their own indie animations.see >>154537320>Nostalgia follows a 20 year cycleI don't mind though, the chick from Planetronika is a really hot design.
>>154565880Better than most that get spammed here.
>>154568540>>154569088>>154558644the anti-lewd brigade really did all the PR work at promoting this huh
>>154567638I'm perfectly fine with her just being a normal sexy girl.
>y2k aesthetics show>pic related is nowhere to be seen
>>154569703hella based
>>154544645I think I have veeeeeeeeeeeery vague memories of watching this and finding the blonde girl cute
>>154569749check back after Planetronika episode 2
>>154571563You are the showrunner, aren't you?
>>154536638those people are in their 30 now which is the age where you actually achieve things in your life. If it makes you mad, you are just a failure.
>>154571858Can't wait for Adventure Time, Star vs, Steven Universe and Horse Show nostalgia decade in ten years then.
>>154537320>tfw everything I enjoyed as a kid is now a classic>also the last time anything was good across the boardI'm going to be 30, and that's fucking weird
It is called the 20 years nostalgia cycle.
>>154573107They produced plenty of shit nobody remembers, those were the low points but there were actually very high points in form of great shows too, and the average quality was higher. And that's the thing, they actually had high points. Nearly every contemporary show is at best fucking mediocre
>>154567638she looked more like a space explorer in her concept art
>>154567638How's the writing a mess? I just think it didn't say much and focused too much on characters reacting to things. I wouldn't call that a mess, I'd call that an empty room with only a TV and a couch
>>154574106The blue alien looked better. By a lot.
>>154550873>>154558074Its more that early 2000 AND late 90 share the same aesthetics
>>154569749copyright
>>154536638Send me back...
>>154565880Just wait, give it some time and then you'll see people drawing her with an belly bigger than her entire body (the fact that she dress in the 2000s fashion will even motivate it, as people said at time "why every chick nowadays dress like pregnant women?")
>>154578938no
>>154574106footGAWD bros... we lost sandal kino...
>>154546585Thats honestly a good point. Barely anything has meaningfully changed since the early 2010s. Going from iPods and flip phones in the 2000s to smartphones in the 2010s was a big change. The only thing thats changed since 2010 is smartphones are a bit faster.>>154546986As a zoomer, thats why we love emo girls. they were our babysitters as kids. >>154544698I collect and restore old computers and electronics. There was a massive drop in the quality of plastic after the early 1990s right as manufacturing moved out of the first world to china and mexico.>>154552414girly y2k teenpop is fire>>154552488I have a tablet from 2014 and it still works, it doesnt feel dated at all.
>>154581683>As a zoomer, thats why we love emo girls. they were our babysitters as kids.lol suburban white boy
>>154581714yeah, it was peak. I miss riding in that big yellow hummer
>>154536638The top being about a LA chicana who doesn't feel Mexican enough being written by someone from Mexico is really funny.>>154555361Can you tell him the Hitler video he made is quite literally the funniest thing I've ever seen?
>>154581809oh godwhy the fuck would you want to be mexican in americai say this as a bean boy myselfseeing my may as well be white siblings try to be mexican is fucking embarassing
>>154536638You just had to be there anon
>>154536638The people who make Y2K/2000 cartoons are the same people who grew up in that era.This isn't "Kids being fascinated with a previous generation and wanting to emulate it", it's kids from that era growing up and wanting to reignite that past into the modern era, like Pan Pizza and his Loki IRL show for example. We've been at that point where people aren't going to wait for Hollywood to dump some money and make something that might appeal to their niche tastes, so they're gonna go out and make it themselves
>>154552269Good things come to those who wait, anon.
>>154581714Sorry that there's nothing for you to be proud about being a third world brown.
>>154536638All I can think when I see anything related to Panpizza's show is that time when he said in a livestream with Genndy Tartakovski that people can fuck cartoon characters in the show's universe. Peak spaghetti dropping
>>154574228wow cool blaster
>>154536638Its simple.Its the last time society wasnt HELLISH like today.2012 began wokeness crushing everyone's soul and social media skyrocketing in popularity and finally covid made everything expensive and everything fun had to shut down
>>154560711I love!! <3 <3
>>154574106Oh cool, I hadn't seen this before. Anymore where that came from?
>>154574228That’s bad writing anon, when it’s a pilot and you just have filler in the script with the charecters dancing or reacting to what is happening that’s not good. Cut the fat if it’s just gonna drag. I know animation is a visual media but that dosen't mean you waste time in it.
>>154583892I’m sorry that your neighborhood got flooded with HRT like crack in the projects.
>>154586416>filler There's that word again...
>>154536638That first one ain't even a cartoon tho It's an ever-changing proof-of-concept
>>154584253He really fucked up but Genndy probably did not care. He made Fixed and showed Fang giving birth in Primal.
>>154588651People focused on the wrong thing when it came to Genndy on that Livestream His problem wasn't with the sex stuff, it was the fact that Pan barely gave any information regarding the characters or their motivations. Genndy basically said it himself "It's like if you pitched Finding Nemo and said it's about the ocean"
>>154586510contrary to popular belief troons arent that common. all of them are terminally online spergs so of course theyre everywhere online but theyre nowhere to be found in meatspace.
