Not a rapist edition.Website: https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/
>>154589338lmao get rape related PTSD you loser
>>154589338Well, it's nice to see that my prediction was right on the money. Gotta ramp up that Lucy pity party seeking AND get her nice and twaumatized so she'll throw herself at Mike. Unfortunately, this means it's another who-the-fuck-cares-about-Lucy's-fake-problems? page and so I fully expect another shitposting thread.
>>154589351>well you chatted up the wrong girlWhat an excellent summation of Lucy in general.
>>154589338A rare moment where I actually laughed
Hey anon who made >>>/trash/83979989 wanna try again now that people in this thread can find out there's a thread to join?
>>154589391>get her nice and twaumatized so she'll throw herself at MikeGod I hope not. If anything I hope she runs into Mike and he's basically catatonic, only apologizing for invading Lucy's personal space once again, nevermind that she's the one who ran into him
>>154589453A psycho bitch with entitlement issues can throw herself all she wants and not get caught. It would make no sense for Mike to be all that receptive at the moment.
>>154589338He was a skater boyShe said see ya later boy
>>154589338>Ooh shit you're not a catLucy that is extremely racist
Genuinely the worst page I ever read. And if Lucy tries to seek comfort by getting with Mike when he's at his lowest, it just confirms that he was nothing than a warm body to be used and abused by Lucy.
Next week will be a good week if these last few pages have been building to Lucy losing her shit in front of the entire cafeteria and laying out all of her (perceived) grievances for the reader. We can finally know from Taeshi herself what exactly goes on in Lucy's head
>>154589489So is Mike worried about Paulo here being attracted to cubs or worried by the fact that Paulo is looking this up on his computer/home internet without a VPN?
Is it a rape retcon like the James retcon?
>>154589453I want to see Mike seeing Lucy waddling his way and jumping out of a window to avoid her
>>154589558>Genuinely the worst page I ever readOh, I don't know, anon. There are a lot of real stinkers in this comic. This one strikes me as more funny in its desperation.>And if Lucy tries to seek comfort by getting with Mike when he's at his lowest, it just confirms that he was nothing than a warm body to be used and abused by Lucy.I mean yeah, that's basically what happened. Even if Taeshi tries to deny as much and recontextualizes Mucy as some great tragic romance. Her self-sabotaging failure would be even funnier for it.
Approaching (mental) SNAP CITY soon, anons. Or the tension gets dispelled by memedog somehow and we start this shit all over later.
>>154589584Unlike Daisy who adorned herself like a tamale on Christmas Lucy here isn't asking for it
>>154589558>it just confirms that he was nothing than a warm body to be used and abused by Lucy.Mike is always right. This entire comic has been gaslighting him to accept it.
>>154589613So comically exaggerated to try and garner sympathy for Lucy that it's horrible. We'll never see that guy again most likely. It's like summoning hallucinations to torture Lucy to try and make the audience feel bad.And if Lucy does go to Mike for comfort in this chapter, I'm genuinely going to quit reading this comic.
>>154589566Mike and Lucy having their respective spergouts would probably be intended as pottery or some shit. How much do you want to bet that even if Lucy does suffer a public psychotic breakdown, it will answer fuck all? Either to drag out the scenario yet further or because Taeshi's bannana logic is nigh incomprehensible to the non-BPD mind?
>>154589652>It's like summoning hallucinations to torture Lucy to try and make the audience feel bad.Isn't that just Lucy's dream sequences? Which only had actual consequences for Mike due to LITS.
>>154589338I like that they joke about looking like a rapist and yet he looks nothing like the canon ones in the room
>>154589652>It's like summoning hallucinations to torture Lucy to try and make the audience feel badIronically, what we've got here is an improvement on the usual BCB writing style. I would have sooner expected a redundant pseudo-flashback with some twaumatizing dialogue bubbles. An active callback to an established if neglected source of twauma is just the tinest step in the right direction. Once which Taeshi will not capitalize on or, indeed, even repeat.>And if Lucy does go to Mike for comfort in this chapter, I'm genuinely going to quit reading this comic.After everything this dysfunctional narrative has inflicted, character consistency is the straw that breaks the camel's back?
>>154589744Not about character consistency, more the rapey tones it would give off being romanticized.
>>154589720Woah now, anon. Depending on the timeline, Augustus either chickened out or never got far enough to qualify as an actual rapist.!
>>154589558We already know the latter is true. It's been hammered in over and over that Mike was right about Lucy and their relationship dynamic. The narrative punishing him for it doesn't change that.
Aight im out. I thought at first she really meant it, she was gonna do something but you know; that fucking brown loli can’t do is either bring in black people around that are not dogs or write some actual consequential arcs that hits hard onto a character that actually grows.She’s always gonna give a pity party for Lucy cause she’s a woman and she relates to all the shit Lucy gets away with.nothing is gonna change it’s gonna be a waaah men are horrible and creepy ass losers who want to hurt women and except my man cause my man is so sweet despite marrying me cause I’m a small woman
>>154589755Well, that depends entirely on Mike's reaction, right? If all is well and he "comes to his senses" by embracing and validating Lucy, you're right. That would be utterly disgusting. But based on Taeshi's commentary, her anniversary video, and pic related, I'm guessing that's not what will go down.
>>154589351At least Taeshi recognized the dude did nothing wrong. I was worried for a moment
>>154589338I felt worse for Skater Bro. Though he ultimately dodged a bullet.
>>154589720Eh for the 00s he looks like the stereotypical sleazeball. Remember that this is supposed to be taking place in the 00s. Like uh Mike has iphone.
>>154589775No, I mean Lucy purposefully breaking him down until he can't say no, advancing on him despite being taken, and using him for comfort after she isolated, gaslit, and made people turn on him just because he wouldn't give her his body and get in a relationship with her.
>>154589670I like the idea of a kind of parallel if they weren't using a fucking Carnival fun mirror for it >Mike's sperg out is because no one takes his relationship seriously and feels no one is on his side>Lucy's sperg out is because everyone takes her seriously, are super patient with her mood swings and try to make her feel like they're on her side
>>154589792Oh yeah I get that, I was making a joke about Lucy and Augustus. I'm actually surprised she made the dog flirty yet not push after her instead of summoning the spirit of a truck driver to do the job again. Also the fact that Lucy "violence is good when I justify it" Whitecat just turned around seething and crying instead of giving in to the "slapstick" she dishes to others more deserving of it
>>154589800So are you upset that Lucy--the thoroughly flawed character--is doing these things at all, or is it the possibility all that her bullshit could end validated by the comic? Because I already know that Lucy is a trash person. Her running to Mike only confirms that knowledge. And, despite Taeshi being a complete nutbag divorced from reality, she at the very least did portray Lucy's desperate rape attempt on Augustus as a bad thing. So I imagine that Worst Cat once again throwing herself at Mike in desperation will not reflect well on her. Which I would be quite content to watch play out.
>>154589670Nothing will come of Lucy sperging out since she can't take criticism or actually grow. If you aren't someone she cares about (Mike) then she will ignore you and if you are someone she cares about giving her a verbal smacking she'll try to kill herself.
>>154589915Well maybe she SHOULD kill herself, then, and decrease the surplus Worst White Cat population.
Booooooooring shit
Anyone think Lucy will actually have the gall to try to run to Mike now pretty fresh off LitS? I know we expect the dumbest course but even that seems too nonsensical after latching to Sephiroth Cat
>>154589978How long has it been since lits in universe?
>>154589910She tried to play off Augustus's attempted rape of Daisy as for her benefit, and did deflect that Augustus being dependent on Lucy meant he trusted her a lot in one of the blog posts, so I genuinely think it would be celebrated.>>154589978Definitely.
>>154589978Certainly, remember LitS was something AUGUSTUS DAVID AND JAMES did, not her, she remained silent and only defended herself, and she only agreed to sit with the group, not to exile Mike, it was all for Augustus, she never wanted it, yadda yadda yadda. Her conscience is clean
>>154589978The only ridiculous aspect here is the dependence on Taeshi acknowledging that Lucy has a longstanding, desperate boy-latching problem. This is an issue that's been danced around in the comic for a while now so that Lucy is never judged too harshly. It's pretty clear that, despite Taeshi's protestations, Lucy does not give a fuck about Mike as a person. His feelings do not matter to Lucy unless they are directed toward her in a positive or negative manner. His suffering is at least largely irrelevant. And part of her probably expects Mike to be so desperate for forgiveness that he'll give her any validation she wants. The bigger surprise to me is her pulling this even though Sandy is still in the picture. Lucy's jealousy issues-born pisspot attitude typically shuts this sort of thing down. But maybe that's only if Augustus is around to play safety valve.
>>154590044>She tried to play off Augustus's attempted rape of Daisy as for her benefitOh, she finally got around to that? I just remember some speculation that Taeshi would resort to it.
>>154590091>remember LitS was something AUGUSTUS DAVID AND JAMES did, not her. she remained silent and only defended herselfMy ass. Lucy was directly involved as she both never corrected the record and attacked Mike the second he brought up Lucy's shit stank, and she attacked him when he did. Lucy squarely blamed everything on Mike as she claimed he was all she had. I love how every time Lucy talks like this, Mike is always talked about like an object.
>>154589978Remember, anything that you can come up with will be more interesting than whatever Tae masterplan is
>>154590091You know, that's a good point. There is a good chance that's exactly the position Taeshi would try to push. Telling her readers to ignore their lying eyes, as per usual.
>>154590122I don't get why the table even triggered this, Augustus lost his edge towards Lucy a long time ago, the only difference is that he'd shake her hostility with a deadpan expression instead of the flustering the rest did but the result would be the same, walking around eggshells to keep Lucy sane, Paulo David and James would work spare teddy bear if asked to, but turns out the silence gets to her too, she's more hamster than cat, attracted to her own demiseLike how do you calm the PTSD of someone in a war they not only started but perpetuate as the only attacking side?
>>154590141>I love how every time Lucy talks like this, Mike is always talked about like an object.It's either on purpose or, more likely, a self-report on Taeshi's mindset. It would be nice if Taeshi admitted that Lucy has a toxic selfish outlook, but I'll settle for incidental validation.
>>154590191>It's either on purpose or, more likely, a self-report on Taeshi's mindset.It is not the first time tbf.
>>154590190>I don't get why the table even triggered thisNobody does. We've speculated to be sure, but even are best guesses depend on Lucy's unexamined neurosis that defies all but the most selfish logic.
>>154590213That was a looooooooong time ago, and Taeshi has noticeably degenerated in both skill and basic objectivity since then.
>>154590141There's part of me that hopes that now that the narrative is leaning on Lucy having a victim complex all the examples Taeshi picked for this were evidence of how full of shit she was being at the moment, I know an anon found most of the actual pages and they were mostly her being a cunt to Mike or forcing herself on him
>>154589338>>154589351your threadly reminder that literally everyone except Daisy got their shit kicked in during Confrontation and Lucy sat it out until the last minuteit's always fascinating to me how Sue, Mike, and Paulo aren't allowed to have any trauma over it. Mike you can at least (annoyingly) hand-wave as "he was too drunk to really remember it" but Sue and Paulo were totally lucid.Taeshi treats an event that she herself had happen to the main four plus Sue as if it exclusively happened to Lucy whenever it gets brought up. you mean to tell me none of the other preteens assaulted by adults in an alley ever had any nightmares or trauma about it?>>154590042like, maybe a few days? i don't think it's been a week.>>154590091>>154590141>BCB is so bad and incomprehensible that even anons who hate Lucy sometimes forget that she kicked Mike in the gut to stop him from speaking and defending himself>James was there and instantly on board with a stranger assaulting Mike over a vague rumor another stranger told himpart of what made LitS so wild was how directly Lucy acted against Mike, including yanking Paulo's leash just to keep Mike isolated for longer.normally Lucyspace is enough by itself to bend reality to her benefit. Lucyspace is still in effect, too, as we can see with James' instant turn, plus the timing of Daisy's illness to ensure she and Paulo remain isolated from Mike for longer.
>>154590287While I certainly share your wish, we should all remember how Taeshi defended Lucy's attitude as legitimate. That fit a theme that emerged on the tumblr blog shortly thereafter: Cherrypicking panels that seemed to back up whatever that day's argument was, but only if you ignored the damning context or had a working memory.
>>154590376>part of what made LitS so wild was how directly Lucy acted against Mike, including yanking Paulo's leash just to keep Mike isolated for longer.normally Lucyspace is enough by itself to bend reality to her benefit.Sometimes Lucy needs to act. Sadly, it is never too late to fix her own problems or get better, just to fuck with Mike.
>>154590376Lucy's the only one who got molested and almost raped. Everyone else was beaten up or frightened into submission. It's quite clearly not the same thing.
>>154590434Mike was nearly killed too.
>>154590042>How long has it been since lits in universe?Well, in Intermission False Start, James says that Mike started skipping track, so a few days must have passed for James to realize that.
>>154590510Lucy only got almost raped cause of her disappearing act during the beatdowns.
I can only hope some artanon will be able to use this sequence
>>154590534I'm not one to blame victims, so I don't exactly share that sentiment. However, she's being frankly unfair to her friends given almost all of them tried to help her. The only one she could be somewhat justifiably angry at is Daisy, but she froze up out of fear.
>>154590510So was Lucy. Both were beaten up pretty badly, and Mike had the "advantage" of being dead drunk. He even admitted later on to not remembering much, just that Lucy tried defending him.Do note, before anyone jumps down my throat, that I'm not trying to absolve Lucy of anything. She absolutely did wait until all of her friends were down for the count before stepping in all lah dee dah cool as a cucumber. Her resentment toward her friends is absolutely insane. It's just that, to me, asking why Lucy is the one to come away from Confrontation with the lion's share of trauma is stupid. Of fucking course she would.
>>154590593I do believe the other guy was asking why nobody else was traumatized by being thrashed or seeing friends almost get killed, not to be rude.
>>154590557>hey babe those are some nice fat trash bags to fit your garbage personality
Lucyspace is effectively the same thing Patrick Bateman had going on
>>154590434read it again. she OPENS with an attempt at seduction as a what, 13-year-old? the worst thing that happens to her is she gets her face scratched and (nearly) choked out.>almost raped>ALMOSTbut she didn't, now did she?trauma from being at risk of greater sexual trauma doesn't exceed actual violent trauma. framing it as a contest is retarded in the first place, they should ALL be traumatized to a degree, Daisy included.just because our culture primes you to respond with more emotion towards sexual crimes than literal murder doesn't mean one type of trauma is "more important." just because it's more salacious in a headline doesn't mean it's actually worse, and to put up something that ALMOST happened as a justification for Lucy's special trauma status is fucking stupid.
>>154589338>Oh noooo my one positive trait is getting me attention I don't like.Bitch, wear some clothes then.Sluts be running around naked and getting mad at people for staring.
>>154589777No you can tell she still hates him for being a "creep". Like all women who are oblivious to 80% of men, she still wants men to chase her and initiate but is blind to how to that works
>>154590610Well, let's go down the list:>Sue gets punched in the face and goes down>Paulo gets barked into submission>Daisy freezes up in fearOut of the five, Mike and Lucy got it the worst by far. Now, I do think that watching one of their friends nearly get raped should indeed be pretty dramatic for the other three. But that comes with a caveat: Mr. Big Bad Rapist quickly got trounced by a drunken Mike and a Lucy who bounced back like nothing happened. That would probably defuse the horror of the situation by a fair margin.
>>154589637Why old Mike looked more manly than current Mike? He even looks older than his current AU adult versions
>>154590754Mike got neutered
>>154590754Pre-chibification, pre-surrender to BPD, pre-tracing over female models.
>>154590754This isn't a meme, anon.
>>154590651Pretty much all of Lucy's problems are self inflicted to a degree>Wahhh people are obsessed with my sexy body>I'll just keep roaming around naked instead of wearing layers if its such a problem.>Wahhhhh I hate all my (not) friends and everyone at this school>I'll just go back to said school even though I was away from it and didn't have to come back>Waahhh I am turbo obsessed with this one boy who I totally love and he's all I have!!!>I'll just treat him like shit, push him away constantly, physically abuse him, and give him every reason to despise and stay away from me>Muh nightmares>I'm just going to let the likely source of it keep on ringing instead of saying anything lmao
>>154590754When he said Lucy was a parasite he was being literal.
>>154590803
>>154590790That's one of the reasons why Lucy is so frustrating as a character. The comic keeps begging the readers to sympathize with a girl who's tried nothing and is all out of ideas.
>>154589338Y'know, I do actually feel bad for Lucy. Can't go anywhere without getting solicited, it's all she's good for anyway. Being a whore. All those times she called other girls whores, she was projecting hard. She fucked Paulo for God's sakes, also tried to fuck Augustus but his gay ass shut her down. And I'm betting she tried to had a train run on her back in her previous school if not for Mike 2.0
>>154590950>Can't go anywhere without getting solicitedGee, if only this was an actual thing that happened. Imagine if Lucy actually had a plausible excuse for some of her dysfunctional behaviors.
>>154590950>Can't go anywhere without getting solicitedIf she doesn't want to be solicited all the time, maybe she shouldn't walk around naked. Roseville High is like a porno with all of those naked people just hanging out being horny next to each other.
>>154590664Paulo also got kicked in the gut and hit in the face and goes down. he still gets physically incapacitated, barking alone wasn't enough. he's also physically restrained while being barked at, and is fighting alone until Sue steps up to get Yamcha'd.the chapter is on the website, it's not hard to find to refresh your memory.>Mike and Lucy got it the worst by fareh, if anyone who got hit at all got hit less, it's Sue. she gets slapped and tossed aside almost immediately, and doesn't spend much time getting wailed on.doesn't make much difference regardless, there's not really anything special about Lucy's experience there to justify acting like only she is allowed to be traumatized.
Is it me or does this random student showing up to flirt have the same feel that sue suddenly being bitchy but made to give up those tickets after paulo's spech did? Its hard to describe, but it's that same feeling.
>>154591094That it being contrived bullshit?
>>154590557The flounder face is strong when this chick draws dogs.
>>154589338I like that her girl boss untouchable energy only appears when against people that won't hit back. Almost like being her friend is actually detrimental
>>154591406>Lucy is a cowardI do appreciate novel reasons to shit on Lucy, but is there enough evidence in the comic proper to support this one?
>>154591278
>>154591467Depends if you consider her relationship with Mike and her friends as mostly cowardice.> The entire relationship with pre-sandy Mike was being in denial about liking him and instead hitting him because you like him.>Claim he is the only person you trust, but treat him like this for literally zero reason, and if it's related to the letters, you never voice WHY. I can't imagine voicing why going over well since you fucking rejected him already.With her friends, she doesn't even have the guts to say she hates them or admit how she feels about them, likely cause doing either would get her ass ditched.>View Sue as a nuisance >Only led Paulo to help your own self-esteem & for your own comfort. Knowing full well you don't have any feelings for him.>Shame, Daisy, for wanting Male attention when you literally cannot function without a male handler, and then say how you don't want this attention.There is probably more, but a big one is that Lucy seldom tells anyone what she is thinking or wants. Reads more like she wants someone to care for her and make the decisions for her. That would be fine if she didn't also want to keep an air of plausible deniability if any fallout occurs.
>>154591467Yes, the entirety of LiTS
>>154589338BEGONE FOUL TEMPTRESS
>>154591467NTA but I think she is a coward when it came to Mike. When he asked directly if she wanted Mike gone, she slapped him because it seems like Paulo would directly bring up that Lucy wants him gone.with LitS, Augustus mainly does it on his own accord. Lucy does kick Mike and gaslight but the main event was activated without her asking. With Paulo she wouldn't be able to avoid accountability. With Augustus, if things go super south, she can say "Well I didnt ask you to go up to him outside!" Because she basically wanted her getback at Mike but didn't want to dirty her own hands to do it.
>>154592062BCBman is the hero we NEED.But the hero we don't DESERVE...
>>154592062>>154592186He is unironically too based for this shitty comic.
>>154592206unbelievably more cringe than Amy tbqhwy
>>154592316yes, but it's more self-aware
>>154589338HE WAS A SKATER BOI SHE SAID SEE U LATER BOI HE WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER
>>154590639>They're calling it the most Indian post of all time.I get that in your culture 13 year old girls get sexually assaulted and nearly raped all the time, but it's pretty bad and traumatizing in a western nation.
she wasn't raped, anon.
>>154590754Mike was unironically manlier in the early comics. Like, he was never some rugged Chad man, but he had his moments. Early Mike and modern Mike are basically two different characters.
>>154590754Tae pivoting to a chibi style because she didn't want the comic to be for furries (lol) has been devastating
>>154592440the funniest part is the comic is still full of naked furriesalso it was actually suitcase who insisted BCB was "not furry" despite all the nude anthropomorphic children everywhere, not taeshi
>>154592423There's a reason it's always "took away his spine."
>>154592400SHE HAD THE BPDWONKY BRAIN CHEMISTRY SHE NEEDED A TEDDY BEAR TO HURT
>>154592404Anon, why are you giving this subhuman any attention at all? It clearly can't think.
>>154589338Attempted rape is the worst thing that can ever happen to you unless your name is Daisy then you just need to get over it
>>154590639>trauma from being at risk of greater sexual trauma doesn't exceed actual violent traumalucy got groped between that too so she was a victim of sexual violence, I don't think you understand how much the sexual aspect of it fucks you up mentally even more than just getting punched in the face
>>154592549>unless your name is Daisy then you just need to get over itIn her case it's called indulging a fetish.
>>154589338can we stick with the rapist dog and his cat buddy? they seem more interesting than this bullshit
>>154589584
>>154592672If Lucy dared try, could she tempt Mike away from Sandy with her body and some...well, actually, I'm not convinced that Lucy has any seductive wiles.
>>154592492I apologize to Tae this one time.
>>154592492>>154592776Suitcase convinced Taeshi to go through with it despite how ridiculous it made the characters look, so she certainly deserves a share of the blame.
>>154592672Imagine some girl bumps into you while you're sitting at a table and starts squishing her fat tiddies in your faceI'd think she was open to flirtation too
>>154592400>>154592517Any drawfags available who can sketch Amy singing this?Bonus points if Mike is on the side saying something like, "I don't think those are the words..."Double bonus points if Lucy is also on the side seething.
>>154592827I second this.
>>154589338If it was me I woulda pulled my dick out and wiggled it at her75% chance she starts sucking it
>>154592873Give Lucy some credit, anon. The guy would need to reach at least backup boy status for that to happen. Unless "that boy" at Lucy's other school really was just some rando she got caught with in the bathroom.
>>154589338At this point Lucy needs to be locked up in an insane asylum, there's no other solution.
>>154592896Real talk, would hanging with deadened but passively agreeable Mike be enough to stabilize Lucy, at least in the short term?
>>154592931Probably not based on the hypothetical of her hanging with Abbey. She wants pushback so she'd be right back to being pissed off because she ruined the Mike she once knew
>>154592888If there's one thing I've learned reading this comic if you're not Mike you have a shot with bagging Lucy in bed lmaoWhy not let it fly
>>154592953How long would it take for that realization to kick in? I'm not sure we can discount a honeymoon period, and that's on top of Lucy finding pathetic spineless cucked Mike still desirable for some reason.
>>154592931Either Lucy has really long legs or Mike is kneeling here.
>>154592988Maybe she's up on her soapbox again.
>>154592120>When he asked directly if she wanted Mike gone, she slapped him because it seems like Paulo would directly bring up that Lucy wants him gone.She slapped him because he suggested she fucked Augustus
>>154592561a big part of sexual trauma is exposure (moot because they're already naked - this is kind of a big problem for taking the sexual assault aspect as analogous to real life) and feelings of helplessness/powerlessness (which applies to being restrained and beaten as well).one is not "more" than another; suffering isn't mathematically comparable. they're all children being beaten on and restrained by adults. Lucy being traumatized makes perfect sense. what there is really no justification for is ONLY Lucy being traumatized - and even the original comic has this problem.Alejandro acts similarly towards Sue initially on page 11, but Sue apparently isn't as "street smart" as Lucy, who acts like she wants it (???) to get close enough to kick Alejandro in the nuts (see: page 15).yes, Confrontation is so badly written that the child essentially goads the adult into groping her before he actually does. seriously, read it again. half of what Lucy does is femme fatale girlbossing as a fucking middle schooler. i will never defend Confrontation, but it hasn't been retconned and some of the problems in it persist through the rest of the comic. sometimes it feels like nobody, including the LITERAL WOMAN WHO WROTE IT, acknowledges what actually happened when it gets brought up.Sue and Paulo recover WAY too quickly, basically instantly, when Taeshi decides to clumsily "wrap things up" between panels and finish with some Mucy (it honestly feels like the insta-recovery was just to make sure no adult ever found out what happened from Sue or Paulo - the comic immediately pivots back to SoL humor).>lucy got groped between that tooshe pushes his hand away and then he goes to choking her.he's moving in that direction with Sue until she slaps his hand away, so he "only" slaps her nose bloody, then chokes her and tosses her into a wall.yes, Confrontation implicitly accidentally victim blames Lucy....it's not very good.
>>154592931mike dicking her down might help but nuMike would never do that
>>154592976I'd give it a week or so. At first she'd be glad things are "back to normal" along with the rest of the group and try to pretend nothing is wrong while being internally unsatisfied with zombie Mike. Paulo would probably be the first to actually say out loud that shit's fucked. Now whether this would be sympathizing with Mike or getting angry at him for not being happy too is anyone's guess given how the tablefags are
>>154593263>nuMike pulls his own unenthused "let's make out" because play pottery
>>154593349Don't forget that Lucy would need to deal with Augustus, James, and David. They all JUST got done tearing Mike down for her sake, and now she's invited scarf cat back to the table? The fuck, Lucy?!
>>154589910>she at the very least did portray Lucy's desperate rape attempt on Augustus as a bad thingDID she? Ordinarily I'd agree, but Taeshi has zero benefit of the doubt, and the actual sequence was all about how SAD (and thus sympathetic) Lucy was. Augustus immediately switched to comforting her, and this was framed as him being sweet & supportive. And it's never been brought up; Augustus has no lingering suspicion of Lucy, no sense of discomfort with her. If anything, he's more loyal and supportive than ever. When Lucy got a callout post noting that she SA'd Augustus and he reacted way better than could reasonably be expected, Taeshi reblogged it with passive-aggressive notes (fig. 1). And we already know Taeshi consistently overshoots when she's aiming for "relatable level of flawed", and ends up in "absurdly toxic" instead.It all stacks up to make me really suspicious that Taeshi DIDN'T intend for Lucy's crashout rape attempt to be morally disgusting, but as "sympathetic" dysfunction.
>>154590557Im ESL and I have no idea how this stuff works
>>154593442>evil and intimidating green dot
>>154590434Sue got creeped on too, with Alejandro running a finger up her chin.
>>154593442Not beating the size queen allegations
>>154593466Compare that to getting held down, chest groped, and strangled.
>>154593466Imagine being so retarded you define full blown sexual assault as "getting creeped on"then imagine trying to compare getting a finger on your chin to getting your tits groped and getting choked out to the point you nearly pass out.
>>154590557What are you hoping for exactly?
>>154593527>>154593530Sue was also strangled
>>154593442I've never seen Lucy so happy before
>>154593534Also, punched in the face by a grown man.
What's the point comparing how traumatic their experience were when Lucy refuses to get over literally anything? It's not a controlled experiment.
>>154593534>reading one full post is too much for the indian mind
>>154593404Augustus would likely be a prick and phone in an apology because Lucy's his meal ticket. David's a non character and would treat the whole event like a joke and James would try to use that as cover. Mike doesn't really register any of em at this point
>>154593404Not just that, she also fucked up the way her own family sees him so she would have to yell them into accepting him back before she attempted to have him around. She would need to fix the current stigma against Mike before attempting a return to form, and only until then she would have to accept she can't fix the one thing she broke herself
>he needs to argue about something Yeah ok Male Lucy
>>154593583It would be weirdly funny watching Lucy yelling at everyone else constantly to repair Mike's standing among them and the whole time he just doesn't care to the point even those around him can't help but realize it.
>>154593419I'd say the issue is how Taeshi treated the aftermath. Lucy got to land on a nice big air pillow, like you said, and I'm not dismissing the idea this was *mostly* a big Lucy pity bait party. In fact, you're almost certainly correct on that point. But I do think that Taeshi meant for it to be a canonically bad thing, since Augustus did go on about consent. It just wasn't supposed to be the main point her readers were meant to dwell on.
>>154593534>Sue getting thrown by her neck is the same as Lucy being actively choked to deathAnd you just ignore the sexual assault, again, I can't tell if you're just a disingenuous coward and don't want to address the elephant in the room or you actually don't see a problem with itConsidering all the cringe rape denial I'll assume it's the latter
>>154593534Wut page?
>>154592206I like the implication that everyone is the size of normal housepets to him.
>>154589338>why don't you stick around for a while?this is where he lost her. lucy can't get wet if you give her a choice
>>154593583"Fix" in this case I assume to mean "yell or cry them into submission," since that seems to be Lucy's go-to method.
>it was only a light sexual assault saar the bobs and vagenes must get over this
>>154593527>>154593534>>154593550and Paulo also got held down and kicked in the gut so hard he either passed out or couldn't stand. he can't even sit up on his own on page 21.>>154593566it's even dumber than that. the take these people are actually trying to defend here is "Lucy's the only one who would have REAL trauma.">>15459365012. it's actually one of the most dangerous things done to any of them in the whole chapter (up there with Mike's head getting stomped on); Sue could have easily died from it. strangulation isn't how being hanged kills you, putting too much weight too quickly on your cervical vertebrae is. basically snaps your spine out of your skull.
>>154593728BCB is not a medically accurate comic. See Lucy's suicide attempt. Sue is fine because she landed in garbage. Paulo is fine because all he got was a kick to the gut. That's the anime logic this chapter was built on.
>>154593728Yeah I don't even buy Lucy's trauma. It makes no sense if you try to align it with the comic Taeshi actually wrote before she decided to project her breakdown on Lucy. It just looks like eitherA: Augustus is triggering her and she's letting it happen because he's hotorB: Lucy randomly decided to hate her friends one day because she wants to live in denial
>>154593728>Paulo was totally passed out from the pain! Sue could've had her neck broken by Alejandro's herculean strength!It's hilarious you're just pulling shit out of your ass to justify why Paulo getting barked at and Sue getting thrown by her neck are worse than Lucy getting sexually assaulted and being literally one panel from getting choked to death.Your retarded headcanon doesn't count for anything.
>>154593848The actual problem with Lucy's Confrontation Trauma is that it didn't exist until Taeshi needed a reason for the readers to feel sorry for Lucy. It was a post-return invention. It makes perfect sense as a thing to happen, but not as something that was totally there this whole time and just never came up. Even if Taeshi tried to say it only flared up in Mike's absence, the trauma was introduced in a flashback chapter. Okay, cool, so where was it between Lucy's trip to Augustus' house and, say, December? Happening just offscreen? How convenient.
>>154593853I know a guy who got PTSD just from getting jumped, and he was an adult when that happened.
>>154593583It would be nice if that was Lucy's actual suffering. Something that made her realize she fucked up greatly because its not just her mad at mike but family and friends now. She ruined his rep with the people close to her and to make it worse he doesn't even care. He's just checked out all together
>>154593853It only takes one good hit to the head on pavement to kill you.
>>154593970It would also fit Taeshi's alleged theme for the upcoming chapters, which is supposed to be "not getting what you want," or some such.
>>154593986https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c14/p19 Apparently not. Look at how Lucy tanked way worse, like a champ. Mike too recovered and got back into the fight just fine.
>>154593622Augustus just doesn't want to be homeless again and knows despite the Whitecat family being generous to the point of retardation banging the daughter under their own roof is probably a step too far.
>>154594024As if Lucy's going to tell anyone. He's under greater pressure to just give in and let it happen.
>>154594037>only one of the six chambers has a bullet bro!
>>154594058All the chambers are loaded and Lucyspace renders that fact irrelevant.
>>154593853I don't think it has to be worse just that it counts for something. Why does only Lucy get a free pass?
>>154593848You have to remember, Taeshi didn't even have a reason for Lucy coming back until recently. And even then its probably nothing that would make sense because, at minimum, her mental state would at least have her family put her in another school.
>>154593772oh, if we're being fully Doylist, the entire ordeal was only to facilitate the Mucy kiss payoff. that's why only Mike can save Lucy, why Mike, Sue, and Paulo instantly emotionally recover offscreen afterwards, and why Toby just fucking vanishes into thin air the moment his role in the chapter is done.>>154593904>>154594083this is why i don't think some of these people have actually read the comic. seriously, it's right there on the website WITHIN THE CHAPTER how quickly everything goes back to business as usual sitcom fare. that holds into the next chapter and onwards for YEARS of the comic. it was like that before the rewrites and it's STILL like that.Confrontation was a super clumsy, barely-any-lasting-consequences "very special episode" that only existed for the Mucy kiss payoff.>>154593848Lucy's trauma is basically panels 3 and 6 on page 21 consuming the character entirely. she's LESS upset about the 2 panels in between.and again from a Doylist perspective, the reason "nobody helps" Lucy (they already tried to defend her and got folded) is mostly because 1. characters besides Lucy often cease to exist in Taeshi's mind when they move to the background2. she needed to ensure that Mike was the one to save her to facilitate the Mucy kiss.basically, Taeshi, YEARS later, turned a contrivance she used to facilitate a Mucy kiss into a primary driver of Lucy's disdain for everyone around her.>>154593923>>154593986>>154594076don't bother with that guy, not worth the effort.anyway...>>154594014no, being swung against the ground like that is not worse than your head getting stepped on.either we take injuries and risks seriously, or we don't and say none of them should be traumatized at all. no other position is internally consistent, and the stance Taeshi literally had on Confrontation for years was effectively the latter.
>>154594116>no, being swung against the ground like that is not worse than your head getting stepped on.The thousands of videos of people dying because they hit the back of their head on the ground says you're wrong, but nice cope post.
>>154594116>no, being swung against the ground like that is not worse than your head getting stepped onWow it's almost like the violence written by a teenage weeb is unrealistic or something.
>>154593128>one is not "more" than another; suffering isn't mathematically comparablesure, but usually you don't see people kill themselves over a punch in the face, it's almost like rape is heavier for the mind and lucy was just about to go through that
> Teenagers talk to each other> THAT'S CREEPYI hate the faggots and lesbians in bcb comments so much is unreal
Reminder that the only reason we're having any kind of argument is because one anon pulled a Whoopi Goldberg on Roman Polanski and keeps trying to argue around the issue.
>>154594190>either we take injuries and risks seriously, or we don't and say none of them should be traumatized at all. no other position is internally consistent, and the stance Taeshi literally had on Confrontation for years was effectively the latter.>>154594207i'm>about torape you, anon. prepare your trauma accordingly.
>>154594248Your contention is that we must ignore a rape attempt because Taeshi has a poor grasp of violence.
>>154593923I know someone who got PTSD because the mom died in Land Before Time, what's your point?Getting traumatized by getting beat up by a stranger isn't a common response, if someone does get trauma it's understandable but you shouldn't expect itGetting traumatized because someone sexually assaulted and tried to rape you is so common there are infact tens of thousands of support groups for survivors despite it being far less common, because it's inherently more traumatizing.
>>154594275The contention is that a bunch of psychos want us to feel empathy and let pass Lucy shitty behavior, shitting on her friends and basically everything with a pulse just because a dude manhandled her tits.Get a grip, womenoids are completely insane.
>>154594292The correct answer is that females get more ptsd because they are psychologically weaker than male, have a different stress response.Also is more common that females justify their shitty behavior of others with past traumaA dude will get punched in the face or the throat if he behaves like Lucy, no amount of "somebody touched my dick without my consent 6 months ago" will give you a free pass.
>>154594305Men get just as traumatized from sexual assault as women do, they're just as capable of being sexually assaulted/raped.I wish you would've just gone mask off at the start that you're just a faggot with a problem with girls instead of trying to cover it up with half-baked thoughts on trauma.
>>154593772>Sue is fine because she landed in garbageHow fitting
>>154593996>the chapters are about Lucy's problems being magically solved without her learning anything >turns out she meant the readers
>>154594294Sounds like you just picked a really dumb hill to die on and will make up whatever scenario you need to feel better about it.
is it teens being retarded in these last couple threads, or 40+ year old autists who never developed mentally past childhood?>muh indianswas extra pathetic. desperate to fit into the "4chan culture" but too lazy to lurk first and too much of a coward to say nigger. telltale underage shit.
>>154594498>the guy who seethes in posts without actually replying to anything is an indiankek
If I wanted to appear the intelligent party in an argument, my first priority would be to throw a public fit. That'd show 'em all.
>>154594294>>154594305>See someone get sexually assaulted and traumatized for lifeWoooow, now she's got a get out of jail cardSome people just get all the luck
>>154594292>Getting traumatized by getting beat up by a stranger isn't a common responseThe standard LiveLeak fare of old was almost always between people of equivalent age or at the very least two adults. That sort of thing is really not applicable when you're talking about 13-year-old victims - Alejandro and Toby weren't "roughhousing." TSD actually has a pretty shared symptom set regardless of the source of the trauma. Clinically, apart from the specific triggers, the clinical effects generally depend more on the person with the trauma than the specific source of that trauma.That's why "shell shock" and "post-rape psychological trauma" aren't treated as all that medically different. In practice, they aren't, regardless of which one a given culture takes less seriously than it should (which is usually both).
>>154594577*PTSD, not TSD.I do not support Total Sue Death.
>>154594569> a dude touched my tits> I suppose that now I can abuse my friends and it is justifiedpsycho
>>154594569she literally wasn't traumatized until Taeshi retconned it in after having a mental breakdown herself and returning Lucy from her suicide attempt.Confrontation used to be treated like something she wished she hadn't put into the comic at all.
>>154594292First of all, no you don’t. Second of all,>Getting traumatized by getting beat up by a stranger isn’t a common responseAccording to this random graph I found (that’s all the effort you’re getting out of me) it happens one in three times. That’s not very rare at all. It wasn’t hard to find support groups for victims of violent crime either, if that’s our metric. I’ve sorta lost the plot of this conversation, all I’m arguing is that it’s kinda weird that only one teenager has any residual trauma over this back alley assault that they all were a part of and bore witness to.
>>154594553>the comic that predicted Eternal Flame
>>154590557>ArtanonBy and large they've long since left these lands, friend.
>>154594825Yea Mary, you tell that fucking NPC.
>>154594683As has been mentioned by people not sperging out, it's only with Lucy because the residual trauma was added to her retroactively years later, and mostly as a mechanism to excuse years of her being an ass. Also, super important that those percentages are not split by cohort - child victims would probably skew higher across the board.Also it's really funny that because the labels switch between causes and victims of PTSD, you can read such fun "facts" from this chart as, "13% of people get PTSD from encountering a police officer," and "10% of people get PTSD from a child threatening their life."
>>154594922Those bastard humanitarian aid workers.
>>154594959Priorities, man - we can't let the paramedics off the hook!
>>154593527No. I'd rather not spend time or energy ranking different types of assault.My point isn't that Lucy isn't traumatized, or is unreasonable to be traumatized. It's that it's weird that she's the only one who is. Lucy's primary traumas are:>Her and Mike's various near-death experiences>getting creeped on (supposedly in general, but most examples were fancharacters and thus no longer canon, so it's been narrowed to emphasize confrontation specifically)>her weird obsessive crush on Mike being rejected multiple times, with increasing harshness each time>overhearing her friends sideline and diss her for being meanNone of which is unique to Lucy; Mike nearly died too, the other girls have been creeped on, Daisy and Paulo have been rejected harshly, and EVERY character has had to deal with backbiting and bullying although some of them (Paulo) deserved it.I know that different people react to things differently, and that's fair. But it's fucked up that Lucy is the only one who's feelings "matter" according to the framing of the story. Everyone else just gets over it, forgiven and forgotten and moved on from.
>>154594825God I love Mary so much. She's the best.
>>154594825What a silly little gremlin girl
>>154594616she wanted to add more depth to her suicide attempt to don't make it 100% about a boywhich was unnecessary is not unheard of teenagers offing themselves from unrequited love
>>154594683>the absolute bare minimum of posting a pop-sci chart is the most effort you can put outYou're too lazy to read the citations for the sources but don't worry.>every single one is about how every source of trauma aside from rape and sexual assault recovery quickly and have far lower prevalence >https://sci-hub.box/10.1177/15248380211032213>https://sci-hub.box/10.1080/03007995.2021.1978417One of the studies had half a dozen citations and they all say the same thing kek, which is what anyone with half a brain already understood.
>>154595760years of lucy's characterization still make it obviously about a boy, not december. the comic was written as if confrontation basically hadn't happened to them for a very long time.it was in the same bucket as Carson being left to fucking die of dehydration as far as the plot was concerned.>>154595794...this actually completely undermines your point. what happened to lucy *wasn't* rape, it was physical and non-rape sexual assault. ergo, not the singular exception being carved out here for actual rape. which means lucy's in the group for trauma that "varied slightly and not significantly." in ptsd rates.that's kind of embarrassing reading comprehension
>>154595794Your big rebuttal is "actually it's more like one in a quarter"? It's still weird that none of them got traumatized, then.
>>154594825lucy but good
>>154593622I know, but that's fucked up. Taeshi keeps doing this thing:>character does something ridiculously awful>character goes "Oh no I didn't mean it" and gets sadAnd the focus is put on the latter, then Taeshi is surprised that her audience gets hung up on the former. Because she LIKES complete assholes, and finds it all fun.
>>154595938>so stupid you confuse an excerpt for the full studies and base your argument off it
>>154596381>Isn't it fun to see nasty people doing nasty thingsI hate when people overly generalize stuff like this. Like yeah it's true but there are conditions you gotta meet. You can make the targets equally nasty or make the perpetrator suffer blowback for their bullshit, or any number of things. There are ways to pull it off but that doesn't mean literally any scene of a mf being nasty is inherently funny. It's like walking into a gun range and figuring out that shooting must be cool, then being baffled when the patrons hate you for riddling one of them with holes.
>>154596590Honestly I did like seeing nasty people doing nasty things, what I didn't like was seeing the Demiurge run cover for them like they were in the right.
Whoever thinks that the only way to get PTSD is HoW mUcH wOrSe one had it is fucking stupid. You cant control that at all, even DAISY could developed it for being useless as shit and letting her almost friends get molested, mikie kicked around and the love of her life tbagged while she couldn't do shit and watched as a cowardly fat girl. The only reason Lucy has PTSD (way late in the story not because Taeshi planned but because she had the idea late) is only for more "woe is my fursona" and " that's why she is angy! All forgiven right?" Funnily enough the first sign of it, and so the first trigger we are shown, is when she is sleeping with Augustus. I think this detail is the most important
>>154596681Yeah, the main problem is that Taeshi will cheer them on saying "yeah assholes and nasty people are so fun to write" but when you say "hey I think these are assholes and nasty people" she'll run damage control about how actually they aren't being assholes because they're being honest, and they aren't nasty because they're acting for others, so they aren't either actually! So you're left with the sour taste of an author that contradicts herself constantly
Ultimate Autistic Godform waiting to unleash judgement:>"These threads are just advertisements, stop making them">"Stop bumping so we can have a new thread for the next page"Meanwhile, in the Upper Plane of Astral Autism:>"You retards are missing the point by arguing over this pointless bullshit">"See you next page">"This comic sucks and the author isn't taking it seriously"Currently, on the Earthly Plane for the Cultivation of Autism:>"It's bullshit that Lucy has trauma over 'no-one helping' when her friends were braver than she was and got their asses kicked while she disappeared for 6 pages">"No, it's bullshit that Lucy is the only one with 'trauma', when everyone was scared and getting their asses kicked">"No, it's bullshit that ANY of them are traumatized when the point of the chapter was just to set up a Mucy moment.">"No! It's bullshit that Lucy's trauma is only being brought up so much later, and without the due gravity such a subject requires!"
>>154597146Where does "do not read this comic" lie on this chart?
Didnt know people who cant read could still type so well, technology baby!
>>154590376>Mike you can at least (annoyingly) hand-wave as "he was too drunk to really remember it" but Sue and Paulo were totally lucid.It was not his state of inebriation that protected him from trauma but his stalwart nature. Many might fall in the face of Chaos, but not this one. Not today.>>154597146You were right to fear the thread. It has gone mad. The posts brim with schizos, and arguments over nothing rage burning throughout it. But this is not a time for heroes. Look instead to those battered souls who have known BPD and failure in ample portion, but post again to reclaim a glimmer of enjoyment from the spreading stain of the Bittersweet Candybowl.
>>154597332Guardian of the Lower Gate to the Astral Plane of Autism, Appointed by the Second-of-First Autistic Godform to Spare the Uncultivated from Destruction.
>>154592672>>154593442The 3 color choice makes the editing so easy now, cant believe there are so few around
>>154597745Sue, Paulo (I hate him, but I'm a fair man), and even Daisy also deserve credit for their clarity in the eye of the storm. Compassion is a rarity in the fevered pitch of battle, and they did not dwell on their fleeting failure, knowing that the campaign is long and victory will come.
>>154596381>"I wonder if thats why I was so shocked about the rage towards Augustus after Line in the Sand.. I know he's being a nasty guy, but isn't that the part about him that's the most fun?"In the case of Line in the Sand, no. This is why i think she's so weird on Mike hate. She hates it when people dislike him too much but then she gets shocked when people are suddenly mad at Augustus for basically coming out of nowhere to ruin shit for him. No author worth their salt would have something like LitS go down the exact way it did unless someone like Augustus, Lucy, David, or James was going to get slapped in the mouth by karma soon. But the moment you bring this up, she'll rush to defend it with examples and proof that just isn't on the paper. Stuff that never left her head. So you're wondering what the hell she's talking about.
>>154598818Unfortunately, abusers and bullies are treated as infallible gods who always have the last word in the narrative, even so far as having Daisy portrayed as a slut who wanted the attention. Hell,there's not a day where I don't feel like dropping this comic.
YES. YES. LET THE FLAMES OF FRENZY CONSUME YOU ALL. THE WHITE FELINE HAS FANNED THE FLAMES OF CHAOS AND MADNESS WELL, AND SOON WE SHALL ALL RETURN TO ASH, NO MORE ILLUSIONS, NO MORE SUFFERING, ONLY TRUE FREEDOM AWAITS. LUCYSPACE AND REALITY, FRENZY AND TRANQUILITY, ALL SHALL BE BURNED AND CLEANSEE, MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
>>154599195I really think that, at least on some level, this comic is just Taeshi living out her fantasies of being a "mean girl" that she probably couldnt do during and after her time as a school student.The characters that do the most assholeish stuff without consequences are also somehow popular and well liked by most of the cast members.
>>154593466>>154590141>>154590213It's hard looking at these older pages and remembering when this comic's art looked like ti was actually progressing and evolving instead of stagnating on the disgusting current style.
fucked up that taeshi's artfight lineup doesn't include sue at all, I know she might not get as much fanart as rachel but it's funny she can't even manage to get her own spot
>>154599723i agree, but i think it's also that her professed "love" of assholes is an attempt to excuse her own mindset rather than self-reflect, and isn't actually a love of assholes (especially if she's the target). it's more like trying to manifest into reality adoration for the kind of person she herself already is, so that she receives that adoration.she still does not believe that genuinely good people exist, and i think at least part of that is some deep seated shame at the fact that admitting they DO exist would categorically exclude herself.>>154596470so you picked the single excerpt that contradicts you (and, according to you, the rest of the paper) to screenshot? it looks more like you couldn't refute the fact that Lucy doesn't actually have rape trauma and grasped at a dumb straw instead.>>154597146is it weird that i kinda agree with everything on the Earthly Plane here? i think you're missing the>"It's bullshit to think anyone except Lucy would be traumatized because she almost got raped"take somewhereand where does>"Arguing here is more fun than reading the comic"sit, i wonder?
>>154597146Where does Darkest Dungeon anon lie on this chart?
>>154600970Sue remains unloved by her creator.
>>154601111>three cope posts in a row because you're too retarded to read the studies your midwit argument relied onkek
>>154602807i'm not >>154595938
>>154601111I dunno that it's that deep, anon. I think Taeshi just likes assholes because her sense of humor is edgy and mean-spirited. See also: that old "A day in the life of Augustus" comic, Jess as a character, or any of the dozens of chapters where the joke is a character gets sidelined and dunked on and can't do anything but suck it up.That doesn't rule out that she's coping on a sort of meta level, consciously or unconsciously choosing to gas up and asspat her fictional jerks because she wishes she could get the same reaction IRL. But I don't THINK Taeshi outright denies that good people exist, she just finds them boring and lame. I might be wrong, it just strikes me as more myopic than planned.
>>154603852it's a conclusion from the way she treats Mike and Sue, but no one's immune. empathy is often framed as purely transactional or attention seeking, sometimes in spite of the way they were originally written. she's waxed poetic plenty of times about how "assholes" are "more honest." her idea of an "asshole" is often somebody who "has no filter" and "tells it like it is."i'm not sure Taeshi always had this mindset, but it's somewhat common in the patreon community from what i've seen, and the patreon community is the sealed vat that Taeshi's worldview ferments in.i think this implicit assumption is actually why the reaction to James surprised her so much. she acted like Mike's "niceness" credit card had declined the transaction for James' affection by revealing the "debt" to Lucy, but by writing James in such a purely transactional way, willing to flip on a dime, even for many in the hugbox the only conclusion was that James had scammed Mike in their "transaction" from the start, not that Mike had scammed James.she didn't seem to realize that such a purely transactional James makes him an asshole who is in fact dishonest, and Mike not dumping literally all of his baggage on James from the start is not some sort of horrible crime.
>>154603852Conclusion: Finn and Felix should bang. Actually they are doing it RIGHT NOW.
>>154604385>it's a conclusion from the way she treats Mike and Sue, but no one's immune. empathy is often framed as purely transactional or attention seeking, sometimes in spite of the way they were originally written. she's waxed poetic plenty of times about how "assholes" are "more honest." her idea of an "asshole" is often somebody who "has no filter" and "tells it like it is."I feel like if someone actually "Told it like it is" about her and/or her comic, then she'd hate it.>i think this implicit assumption is actually why the reaction to James surprised her so much. she acted like Mike's "niceness" credit card had declined the transaction for James' affection by revealing the "debt" to Lucy, but by writing James in such a purely transactional way, willing to flip on a dime, even for many in the hugbox the only conclusion was that James had scammed Mike in their "transaction" from the start, not that Mike had scammed James.>she didn't seem to realize that such a purely transactional James makes him an asshole who is in fact dishonest, and Mike not dumping literally all of his baggage on James from the start is not some sort of horrible crime.I dont think she's ever had a normal friendship in her life. If she had then she would have known that was a bad move if she wanted people to like James. Even if Mike trauma dumped, then she'd write him as in the wrong for putting all of that on James despite not knowing him well in the first place. No way for Mike to win with James other than to date him even if it means cheating on sandy
>>154604385Sue is an asshole
>>154605294On the BCB asshole richter scale she doesn't really register.
>>154605287>I dont think she's ever had a normal friendship in her life.that's kinda been the consensus for years, yeah.
>>154605328She does, that's the thing. It's how insidious it is that makes it so dangerous. She is a massive asshole but she's sneaky about it. I put her in fourth, below Lucy, David, Augustus, in that order.
>>154605423If we define "asshole" as how much the mess with others and go out of their way to make others more miserable.David > Lucy > Paulo > Sue > Daisy > Abbey > Mike
>>154605523i'd put James over Sue. and Augustus over Paulo, but mostly because Augustus not even facing slapstick comedy consequences for his actions like Paulo used to all the time infuriates me.
>>154605523>The more you are allowed into Lucy's presence, the higher the assholeness.It explains a lot.
>>154605676After posting this, I think Mike should've table-slammed David, but instead of a table, it was pavement. It is actually impressive how superfluous dogs are to the comic. Changing Rachel into a cat, and the only thing that changes is that she has to use condoms. The comic would lose nothing if all the dog characters vanished.
>>154589338REACTION SHOT: the comic
>>154605523My rankings, from best to worst, go:>Daisy (pretty universally a good person, feels bad about her shallow mistakes, tries to correct for them where possible, has never done anything BAD bad)>Sue (basically a good person, her hubris and passion have never hurt anyone but herself)>Rachel (based slutpup, supportive and kind but won't let herself be dragged down or walked over)>Abbey (principled and a good person, his hardline stance was extreme, but he keeps getting retroactively proven right)>Mike (principled and kind, but he keeps getting wrapped in knots over Lucy's bullshit and taking it out on others, so he's the worst of the good)Massive gulf-like powergap>Paulo (soggy sponge, basic bitch bully, can't take even a fraction of what he gives, but capable of learning if he gets beaten often enough, so he's the best of the bad)>Augustus (manipulative creep, doesn't understand or care that he's done wrong, "sarcastic banter" was a mask he put on to befriend Lucy on Alejandro's orders)>Jess (shameless liar and hypocrite, will conspire for years and sacrifice multiple friends and strangers out of spite)>Lucy (absurdly toxic, uses and abuses anyone close to her, will ruin own life out of spite)>David (accursed cultist of chaos, exists solely to make others suffer)
>>154605917this all seems reasonable to me. where do you put James? we don't have much of him but what we do have skews awful and makes it look like his only moments of kindness were a self-serving ruse. i might even put him under Augustus (which he would no doubt enjoy).Amaya is presumably off the chart somewhere above the top, of course.
>>154605423For me Sue isnt that sneaky but, out of the group, shes the most likely to get karma for it when Mike isn't around. Sue basically IS Mike when Mike isn't with the gang
>>154606241Below Paulo, but he might fall lower in future. James basically strikes me as "what if Paulo but with none of the I'M SAD or self-awareness": a fuckboy, a liar, a cheat, and a selfish bully, leaving a trail of broken hearts by being a charming flirt but a shitty boyfriend/fuckbuddy. He doesn't fall any lower, but that's not due to redeeming qualities, just James seeming too dumb to be manipulative and not being an attempted rapist (that we know of, maybe Taeshi will change that if she ever pulls out the "James sympathetic backstory" chapter like she's threatened to). It's a low bar, but the snake does slither over it for now.
How did Lucy hurt her arm bumping into that dog? Is he made of steel?Kitten update: the potatos have opened their peepers.
>>154606825lovely potatos
>>154601352he's the chosen one
>>154606485>"James sympathetic backstory" chapter>it's about the death of his only true love, Carson, at the hands of the castthis would be the funniest outcome.
>>154589489
>>154607232Uh, there is a reason Carson died.
>>154607559>James' one true love was the only one who was willing to rape himthis plot fits perfectly into BCB, i don't see the problem.
Lucy sisters, is this what the white GODDESS really want? https://co.llection.pics/post/view/162008
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>>154608149Dbaru's second BCB pic, we've made it boys
>>154598253We drew what strength and solace we could from our companionship, for we were in a realm of death and madness.
>>154589338>>154589584I hope this is the start of Lucy's tranny arc where she cuts her tits off and then regrets it for the next few chapters until she tries to kill herself again (and hopefully gets it right this time).
>>154608814No author would have the balls (pun intended) to portrait trannydom lifestyle in a realistic way.
>>154607104I suppose there is something to be said for him being so on his own plane of autism that there really is no arguing or raging with him. Even when people have had a go at him, he simply ignored them or responded with low-quality Darkest Dungeon edits until they were forced to yield and become enlightened.
>>154606825Adorable. They're so bleary and confused.
>>154608149That must be why Lucy's mom sent her daughter away, she's trying to have the little korat all to herself
>>154589338>Not a rapist edition.so nortubel edition?
>>154608149Noice
>>154607723Now there's some drama!
>>154610491>: A restful partyWhy was Mike a gay magnet in middle school anyhow? It couldn't have just been the scarf, right? I think the only gay who didn't show interest was Matt.
>>154608149oh shit this is actually good
>>154608149Damn now that's good shit. Actual nonfetish art is a plus
>>154610491dammit i hate both of these characters but this is kinda cutehow could you do this to me
>>154611550>every bcb pairing ever
>>154609144desu with MY edit autism I kinda want him to send me the pictures he wants edited so I can do a professional job doing so
>>154611167because1. the only gay characters Taeshi ever writes are some flavor of "insatiably horny"2. the only way she ever establishes "this character is hot" is by turning them into a sex object
>>154606825paulo and mike
>>154608149If Lucy actually had fat tits like that in comic then I'd understand why boys flock to her, just need to complete the set with a fat ass. Only then she'd be a real PAWG(C?)
>>154612055>1. the only gay characters Taeshi ever writes are some flavor of "insatiably horny"This is literally a correct characterization if you know anything about gay culture and how they behave.Imagine having to statistically lie just to show some sort of "good representation" which is not actually true.
>>154613478Lucy used to, but Taeshi's been drawing 'em smaller and less consistently as she's shifted back to a more "cartoony" style. It's like how she's gone back to drawing them with weird stalk-legs with no joints or feet.
>>154613478Lucy is canonically stacked.
>>154614646>>154614698Shame taeshi's style fucking sucks. As it is right now you can barely tell if the girls even have tits or not. The only exception is Rachel and that's only cuz she wears clothes.So either vero needs to fuckin get her thumb out of her ass and improve her drawing and give her characters better proportions, or just hurry up and give them clothes. It's fucking weird how half the entire cast wears clothes and the other half doesnt
>>154605287This is what I don't get. James is exactly the kind of person Taeshi claims to hate: the ones who are only nice and understanding to you because they want something out of it.Yet not only she doesn't get why people hate him, she doesn't seem at all willing to call him out on his bullshit. Is her BPD so damn strong even her own standards flip on a dime?
>>154615161>So either vero needs to fuckin get her thumb out of her ass and improve her drawing and give her characters better proportionsThe art has been downgraded multiple times
>>154615203i mean that's kinda just how splitting works in BPD. James is on the "good" list in her head, and she's going to rationalize any contradictions rather than recognize them as contradictions. similarly, Mike being on the "bad" list leads to literally anything she writes him doing being rationalized as bad.
>>154615203James was on Lucy's side so in her mind that puts him as "Good" in the moment. She expected others to do so too because often times those fans do side with characters that side with lucy.But she did his fall off so hard and nonsensical that even they found it hard to swallow.>>154615324>similarly, Mike being on the "bad" list leads to literally anything she writes him doing being rationalized as bad.She will do this until it comes time for her to want people to feel bad for Mike and then be shocked and confused as to why they don't.
>>154614698Yep, Lucy's milkers are huge the problem is sometimes Taeshi feels guilty over the sexualization and nerfs her assets, but they always return eventually.