What's the biggest givaway that the person you're talking to has never read a comic book?
they claim to like comic books
>>154623048This.If you read comics you fucking hate them.
You can tell a lot from someone's opinions on characters like Hank Pym, Kang, Superman, Green Lantern, Magneto or any of the Marvel/DC villains that aren't the obvious names.
>>154623042When they say Wonder Woman is the most important female superhero
>>154623068Saying Deathstroke is a paedophile
>>154623069She's not even the best female superhero in DC imo. I would agree that she's been awfully treated and characterised for years though.
>>154623042Getting basic lore wrong because they learned it from YouTube shorts with ai
>>154623042They act like Spider-Man wasn't this chud power fantasy in the early 60s. Also, there is no -er suffix in larp, you dumb normie.
>>154623116Similarly people who claim Punisher was never a fascist power fantasy. Vary awkward watching people try to justify why he thinks all criminals should be brutally murdered, but never by the police.
>>154623042>they like ironheart>the only comic book knowledge is stuff you yourself have told them>>154623048This
>>154623048I like the comic books I like, which are mostly old.
>>154623068Saying magneto is too old to be in the holocaust when he actually became a baby in the 80s.
>>154623201When Spider-Man is delivering pies & She-Hulk is on her back Frank is making a difference.
Not recognizing that Guy didn't actually pinch Mary Marvel, that was Sue's imagination
They post on /co/
>>154623042Claiming to know everything, calling anything "poorly written", or saying minority replacement characters are better than the original.
>>154623224Yeah, He grabbed her cunt and sniffed his fingers
>>154623215Say what you like about him, but at least he made the trains run on time.
>>154623042>Batman is a fascist>Batman is just a rich white dude beating up innocent thugs instead of helping the city with his money
>>154623069She's like.... an icon, man.
>>154623042He's a proud /co/ poster.
>>154623326Batman is a fascist, but ONLY in a Nolan trilogy.
>>154623042I hate people using LARP because it used to have a very specific meaning and there were already perfect words for what people meant like fake fan, poser and casual.
>>154623209I only like these super nieche comics like the Killing Joke, Batman Returns or Watchmen.
>>154623048fippy bippy
saying wonder woman isn't the most important female superhero
>>154623422Language changes over time.
>>154623042they haven't had their joy for a property sucked out by constant weird bullshit storylines.
>>154623484>super nieche>that stuff
>>154623484guys have you heard of this obscure niche comic book character called superman?probably not, it's something only us real comic fans would know about
>>154623042>They say that a legacy character was created on the day the original character appeared.>They act like the canon from the last 10 years is what a 80 year old character has always been like and get easily confused by pre-Crisis DC
>>154623042They think everything new sucks
>>154623042Ask them who their favorite Green Lantern is.
They post about comics on tiktok
>>154623042>I only like/think non-anime western comics are only capeshit
>>154624452It's a joke.
>>154623042
>>154623213>if you don't know this obscure bit of trivia that happened before you were born you're a poser and don't read any comics at all!Sigh.>>154623048This is the real answer. If you actually read comics you'll be angry and frustrated with something in them 100%.
>>154624447Fuck off. Idiots use that as a convenient excuse to dumb down language. It saddens me that we live in a world where people unironically defend newspeak.
>>154623116>Also, there is no -er suffix in larp, you dumb normie.Wow, you sure as fuck don't know what you're talking about.Larper = person who LARPs.LARP = Live Action Role Playing.
You can easily determine who doesn't read comics based on their opinions on which major character is a jobber and which isn't
>>154625736unc post
>>154625832Go back
>>154623042>What's the biggest givaway that the person you're talking to has never read a comic book?"I post on /co/."
>>154625736Larp used in that way isn't new.
>>154624728Most of it does suck. Look at how Marvel treats Spider-Man.
>Digital colouring is a mistake.Unironically.
>>154625668>blow up the entire humanityAI is already getting lazier
Saying that Aquaman is lame.
>>154625804which characters do you think non-readers would call jobbers? Genuinely curious
>>154623042Their opinion on Bill's speech from Kill Bill vol. 2
>>154623068I can promise you this post is just>your opinion on this character doesn't line up 100% with mine?! LARPER!Instead of having to actually do with rather or not people read lots of comics. Also WHICH Green Lantern, nigga? Are you a fake if you don't suck off Hal? Have you never read a comic if you think Magneto is best when he's not a mustache twirling bad guy but somewhere in the middle?Also I'm never going to give a fuck about Kang, sorry. Boring ass character.
>>154623042MCUfags
>>154625907Found one
>>154626348Cope
>54 replies in this threadthis still hasn't showed up:>DC comics characters are gods behaving like humans among humans>Marvel comics characters are humans with god powers with human problems.Maybe I am the oldest anon on /co/
>>154623048At least claiming to like anything published in the last 8 years.
>>154623048FPBP
>>154623042>When they think X-Men or Spider-Man were only invented to portray the minority life in America and nothing else>Or really when they think any character only exists or was only created to explore LGBT or minority themes and nothing more. Like Alan Scott or Harley Quinn>When they think Guardians of the Galaxy was always a major iconic book>When they are a Harley Quinn fan>When they are a Captain America fan>When they are a Watchmen fan>They still think Green Lantern is weak to yellow>They do not know Alfred has been dead for more than a decade
>Multiverse bad because I learned about it 10 years ago when Jews deigned to put it in movies
>>154626611>When they are a Captain America fanhey now he’s got some good runsthe real LARPing thing is when they think “I can do this all day” is some kind of catchphrase of his
>>154626611Green Lanterns are still weak to yellow. They just have to train their wills to overcome fear which is usually achieved before training ends, but the impurity didn't disappear, except for the short periods where Parallax is dead
>>154623048Gentlemen, we're done here.
>>154626611>When they are a Watchmen fanFag
>>154623042>What's the biggest givaway that the person you're talking to has never read a comic book?They have a girlfriend.
>>154626702i dont read comics and i dont have a girlfriend
>>154626641No
>>15462472899% of comics made since the 2010s suck
>>154626611>When they are a Watchmen fanRetard
>>154626719Found another one
>>154626858Go back
>>154626858I read comics and am correct thoughever
>>154626163Hulk and Thing for Marvel, Guy Gardner for DC.It's more telling which they consider to be hot shit - you can bet your ass that people glazing Martian Manhunter, Ghost Rider (any of them), Thor, Kyle Rayner, Wonder Woman, Iceman (or most other "Omegas"), Plastic Man and other characters who you constantly see in "these comic characters are so OP!" lists and compilations are not familiar with these characters at all.Related to this, anyone who claims that Superman is boring and too overpowered is either a deliberate troll or has never read a Superman comic in their lives.
>>154626923No you don't. You just listen to angry middle aged grifters on YouTube
>>154626737>>154626695Yes clearly two separate anons who are obviously not samefagging in any way at all, there is indeed such a thing as the dedicated Watchmen fan as we all know. They watched a movie a few years ago in some shit stained Indian hovel and are very pro Watchmen ever since! they have read all the well known Watchmen runs over the years!
>>154627082>grifters
>>154627096>dude I hate one of the best comics ever lol give me (You)sHave some self respect
>>154627131He meant about the movie secondaries, Retard-kun
>>154627104Thanks for proving me right
>>154623069Who would you say is more important? I don't think there are ANY important female superheroes but Wonder Woman probably has the greatest recognition among the general public throughout history. I think you could make a valid argument that the MCU has shifted the balance in recent years but even then I think WW is probably the most universally known/appealing female superhero.Among comic fans I guess maybe it's Supergirl? Her being dead and actually staying dead for ~25 years is extremely impressive and shows an integrity and restraint in DC that is unimaginable today. Marvel side has... Scarlet Witch with M-Day I guess? Not sure I'd call her a superhero, especially at that point though.
>>154627151You wish, lol
>>154623042I read invincible before it became mainstream Amazon slop and I read the boys before it became a show. I also read the original watchman before the movie adaptation by Zack Sydner. Batman was probably the only comic I watched a TV before picking up a single comic. So my exposure to DC can be considered larp. I tried reading Titan Titan before it aired on CN, but it was pretty awful from I remember. So hey, I can still stay it wasn’t larp
>>154627165How does Nerdrotic's dick taste?
>>154623042Saying Dan Slott is a good writer.
Obsessed with Alan Moore, Frank Millar and nobody else >>154626641truke
>>154627218Was it the '90s run?
>>154627104Like Anthony Gramuglia?
>>154623068>Someone's opinions on characters like Hank Pym>looks inside>Opinions based around EMH which is quite different to 616 Hank Pym
>>154627228Obsessed.
>>154627234>MillarBro cmon
>>154626348>t. Joe Quesada
>>154627237Nah, it was the 2004 run, The Batman
>>154627372I meant about Teen Titans
Eerie seeing Reddit threads reposted here
>>154623048if you mead superhero comics books, then yes
>>154627598Says who?
>>154624447Just because they do doesn't mean it's a good thing.
>>154627263I give leeway there since that's like the holy grail of Hank Pym being even used or treated well outside the comics but despite some overlap as a whole they have very different nuances, characterisation tics and storylines.
>>154623042They consider the MCU as earth 616
>>154626207Someone is feeling called out and personally offended it seems.
>>154627383I think it was 2003, the art was more modern looking
>>154627829I meant about the comics
>>1546278952003 with Tim Drake
How do you do something live action online...?
>>154627045What if I say Guy is my favorite Lantern but I also really like Thor? Sure the last Thor run I consistently read was Jason Aaron's, but you can't take Simonson away from me.
>>154623201>Similarly people who claim Punisher was never a fascist power fantasyYou don’t know what fascism is.
>>154629543Most people define fascism as Right-Wing Authoritanism; and in that sense he's probably correct. Punisher is Right Wing Authoritarian, isn't he?
>>154629618Define right wing, what makes a character inherently right wing, are they a nationalist, isolationist? Do they believe in ethnocentric policies? >Punisher is Right Wing Authoritarian, isn't heDoes he work within the confines of the law and is an agent of the state? Is he legally sanctioned by the government? Or is he a vigilante enacting extrajudicial killings against criminals and criminal organizations?
>>154627096>two people can't like an extremely well known and popular comicTardo alert! Though I will say that Watchman isn't that great in terms of Moore stuff. Swamp Thing is is his real best work.
>>154627729Halcucks deserve the rope desu. Also if you remove the slap, Pym is still extremely boring. You people only like him as a point of contention an because Ultron is cool.Also Kang still sucks.
>>154627726To be fair here MCU retconned it being E199999 to E616
>>154630053Cope
>>154630053Wow, the sheer lack of taste from you is truly astounding. It's not often I feel validated in a comment the more someone yaps and yaps. Also Magneto should've stayed dead in 1968 lmao, guy started as a low rent Dr Doom that has been coasting over the world's easiest retroactive backstory excuse for being a mass murderer and all around victim complex wallowing douchebag.
>>154623042>I thought that Supergirl movie was pretty good
>>154623042>Why does Alan Moore write about rape so much? This is really problematic.
>>154623326I hate this absolute midwit take. I don't know if capeshit films have made this better or worse. When I was younger and most people's mental image of Batman and Superman were the Keaton and Reeve versions they might have slightly wrong ideas, but they didn't think they had the informed opinion to talk shit.Picrel manages to not only have the completely wrong take on Batman, they even fuck up Spider-Man, he wasn't chosen, the whole point of Spider-Man is that he WASN'T chosen, and how important your choices are when you suddenly have power given to you.
>Jean Grey is a mary sue
>>154623068Like how the new wave of Lanterns defenders will swear up and down that no one has ever liked Hal Jordan.
>>154623042They don't have a favourite letterer
>>154631937I couldn't give a fuck about problematic, but it's fucking boring after a few times.
>>154632258You can't say the second rape scene in Swamp Thing is boring
>>154627104>leave my youtuber daddies alone! they aren't grifters they're fighting the culture war for us! they're brave warriors!
>>154632331You lost
>>154631998It’s one of those things that tertiaries spout. They don’t know anything about Batman save what they have gained through cultural osmosis.
>>154632066It's such an annoying song and dance how whenever people point out an adaptions fumbling of a character or a writer mishandling them in a run they then just say well actually no one cares for this character despite them either leading runs, having a cartoon they are the lead of or are generally prominent in and any basic evidence that points to a character having an audience. I'm not even a massive Hal Jordan fan but I also understand how annoying it is when people are clearly talking shit about a character they know dick about as that one anon saying Kang sucks without actually giving any argument is proof of.
>>154632258He peaked with the Fishman rape
>>154632398I'm doing well actually. I don't need to defend culture war boomer youtubers online. I'm not parasocially in love with old men. You are.
>>154630685>nooo Pym is so cool and amazing and so well written guys!You just keep proving your shit taste more and more.
>>154632458>about as that one anon saying Kang sucks without actually giving any argument is proof of.All his stories are boring. What the fuck more do you want me to go into? How uninteresting each one is via a powerpoint?You people want folks to write an essay on why they dislike something but refuse to try and say WHY he's so great and amazing.
This thread just tells me that the people calling you a LARPer are incredibly immature
>>154632891Cope
>>154623042That they've had sex
>>154632919That's what I thought. You're just mad that I think your boring, generic Avenger villain (but with time travel!) is dull (but omg guys did you know he's related to Reed Richards!)
>>154624452>>154624484>One of the core characteristics of autism is impairments in communication, which often results in those with autism not understanding sarcasm. Understanding communication challenges, particularly autism and sarcasm, is extremely important as it is frequently used for humorous interaction. Humor and ironic speech can be used as an aid in social bonding, which is often challenging for autistic people.>Autistic people often find sarcasm challenging because of differences in processing information and understanding social cues. This can lead to misunderstandings, negative assumptions from others, and missed social bonding opportunities. Both autistic and non-autistic individuals can work towards better communication.https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/autism-and-sarcasm/
>>154626679This has not come up since the beginning of John's run, and was even not mentioned or remembered the many many multiple instances a brand new rookie got a ring. It's effectively gone along with the rest of the paper rock scissors interactions between the different colors.
>>154623042>They think Doom is really a good guy and / or cares about his people>they harp on a character's early years as if those are the only years that matter and they should never have progressed past that (Spider-man with high school shit / being an asshole sometimes and Batman with using guns / killing are the big two I see)>speaking of Batman, they whine about no kill codes in general as well>They love Gwen Stacy and consider her Peter's 'real true love'>they think that stupid Ultimate X-men story with the murder kid happened in mainline / 'prove' that x-men doesn't work as a conceptI'm sure I could come up with more
>>154623042Liking James Gunn
>marvel is no1>newer year is better but no comic to explain why>only mentions DC or Marvel>says you don't read if you dont PAY for comics
>>154633116>only mentions DC or MarvelThis isn't a larp thing. I just don't give a fuck about Image or indie shit for the most part.
>>154633022>>They think Doom is really a good guy and / or cares about his peopleHe cares.
>>154633176He cares in so much as they make him look good. That's all.
>>154632950Seethe
>>154632929Gottem
>>154632870Not really if drooling mistakes like you are the kind of people against the character much like Bendis or Chuck Austen.
>>154623042If they can't answer the question of "why is color so important in comics?" Color creates a lot of mood and emotion in color comics that you just can't get from black and white comics. Even if you just use black, white, and one color, it creates a lot of emotion.
>>154632891I like Kang cause he's not only fun visually as the quintessential person from the 60's idea on what they think a man of the far future would look like but I also enjoy that despite being from the 31st century he's motivated by something as timeless as boredom, a nostalgia for era's he wasn't living through but merely visits in recreationally and that he's an unabashed despot who has guiltlessly killed his own sons, versions for himself and nuked Washington to have the earth surrendered to him despite nuances he has like a genuine love for his long past Ravonna and a bizarre sense of honour. Kang also benefits that unlike Dr Doom, Thanos or other A-List villains that he actually takes his defeats to heart and they aren't swept under the rug but instead are used to flesh out his rivalries. If you somehow managed to find all of his appearances boring, how he interacts with countless Marvel characters and his larger then life yet very human personality boring then that's a genuine shame. Should try reading Avengers Forever, Kang Dynasty or anything Jed Mackay has done with the character and if that doesn't change your mind then that's a pity.
>>154632950Could be worse, he could be a lame X-Men villain
>>154623042Larpers, which are just pathetic, don't bother me as much as the narrow-minded reader who wants everything to be the same.
>>154633696>against the characterI just said he was boring. The fact that you have to frame it as being 'against' him says everything about your mindset. Like I said, you like him as a point of contention
>>154632447Why is the Joker reading out that newscast?
>>154623042Acting like Frank Miller is the greatest writer ever, and not knowing Dark Knight Strikes again exists
>>154623042Conversely to this >>154635576, people who only ever bring up a writer's bad works strike me as non-readers baiting discerning readers for easy (You)s.
>>154635416You make it out as if people can only like Hank Pym to be a contrarian and not that I genuinely appreciate a character who's been dealt a shit hand for 30 years now with only brief breaks like Al Ewing resurrecting him, Gage using him in Battle world or Avengers Academy and Busiek continuing his redemption from the trial of yellowjacket. You very clearly felt the need to speak up about every character I mentioned cause you felt affronted.
>>154623042>normiefag opinions and views that they clearly got from Youtube videos>has not read Man-Thing by Gerber
>>154627104It is interesting that despite Anons claiming to be against YouTubers, they use terms mainstreamed by these YouTubers in their own slander against each other, proving that they infact do watch these YouTubers. Let's be honest: no one was using the term "grifter" until YouTubers popularized it. The word existed, but it was less popular than "Aglet" . In the past, you either just called them shills, culture warriors, rage baiters, or trolls.
>>154629326Oh it's not exactly about who your favourite is, it's more about people who decide their favourite based on "how OP" they are and such, which is something that NEVER originates from comic books.
who the fuck reads comics?
>>154635996I think it's a more popular genre in Asia and Europe, than in America.
>>154636017Medium*
>>154635974>In the past, you either just called them shills, culture warriors, rage baiters, or trolls.Are YOU trolling? Fucking nobody used the term "rage baiter" until recently. Sure, the team bait was pretty frequent, but rage baiter? You have to be really fucking new to think that was a thing back then.
>>154623042They can't form their own opinion and just repeat what they hear from TikTok and yt shortsand unironic powerscalers
>>154635576Frank Miller is larp central.>Top comics to start reading Batman>TDKRI swear to fucking god.
>>154625846there's no going back, move forward.
>>154623213He is too old, they've admitted they just want to milk it because we can never not care about the Holocaust more than anything else apparently.
>>154636210The comic industry is unironically super Jewish, so that tracks.
>>154626611>>They do not know Alfred has been dead for more than a decadeDidn't he die in 2019?Also who the fuck ever parroted Spider-Man as being a minority allegory? He's a self insert for dorks, someone who'd only ever seen 15 minutes of one of the movies could tell you this.Other anons have covered it, but liking Captain America or Watchmen is pretty standard fare for comic book fans of any milieuStarting to think you're the casual here anon
Are y'all Larping or not?
>>154636217No
>>154627153you're responding to a larper - with WW larpers hit the top of a midwit curve. both the normies and the actual comic readers are on the ends going "WW is the most important female superhero"
>>154638464tf you mean no?
>>154623042I hate casuals so much, why can't casuals just fucking die already?>be in local LCS shop>simple conversation with shopkeep>tell him to "keep on truckin', like Crumb said">he doesn't know what I'm talking about>later on>he's talking about some "weird battle bunny book" a customer bought>he's always on the hunt for dirty, filthy furfags>they're good fodder for him to laugh at>I look over, it's an Usagi Yojimbo omnibus>one time>shop setting up for MtG tournament>he's talking about his Cerebus the hound card>I tell him he must have meant "Cerberus">I tell him that "Cerebus" is an aardvark>he insists that I'm mistaken>once>a middle-aged couple is browsing and arguing with each other>I call them a couple of love bunglers, ask shopkeep his opinion>he just stares at me blankly>one day>customer tries to buy a comic, he stops them>"Rob Liefeld is the worst cancer to ever hit the industry" he explains>"for your own sanity, avoid him at all costs" he goes on>customer returns the comic to the shelf>it's the 2012 relaunch of Prophet>another day>stray cat enters the store>starts rubbing herself against him (he smells like fish 2bh (to be honest))>he tries to shoo her away but she won't go>I remark "that's one crazy cat, amirite?">I'm not proud of that>I wasn't funny, I wasn't clever, I wasn't original>but damn, he didn't show even the slightest hint of recognition>2019>ask if he's going to push any Bechdel comics after their success at the Tony Awards>he yells at me that comics can't win Tonies>not worth my time, I just walk away>the worst>every time someone comes and asks for fantasy and scifi recs>all he can recommend is Vertigo (like Sandman) and Cosmic Marvel (like Annihilation)>I mean, those aren't bad comics>I mean, the customer will enjoy reading them>but really, is that ALL he knows?>is that ALL he can recommend?>smhtbhfam
>>154636118I've read a lot of Batman and Frank Miller is still my favorite Batman writer for TDKR and Year One.
>>154638780Absolute Virgin
>>154623042LARP - term used by retardsPoser - proper usage
>>154638852Faggot, fuck off.
>>154626611>>When they are a Harley Quinn fan>>When they are a Captain America fan>>When they are a Watchmen fanYou don't count as a Real Comics Fan™ if you like something anon here doesn't like
>>154638987Nah shopkeep seems based and he should kick your sperg ass out for scaring away customers with your virgin energy
>>154635795>who's been dealt a shit hand for 30 years nowEvery post you make only proves my point even further. You don't like the character based on his own merits but because other people shit on them. Why?Because he's fucking boring.
>>154639020Seethe, soifag
>>154631998Subway takes is for shitposting and isnt meant to be taken seriously
>>154638780>ugh how DARE they not get my stupid references. Fucking casualslmao
>>154638780>>154639046i thought it was a pasta at first
>>154638852>>154638987>>154639020>>154639035>>154639046>>154639069It's a pasta you braindead newfags
>>154639086LARPer detected
>>154639091https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/Casuals%20Liefeld%20Usagi%20cerebus%20/
>>154639102shoulda trusted my gut
You know you are a trve comic book trvther when you hate new comics and get irrationally angry when someone suggests you try reading some manga too.
>>154639017Yeah that's generally how it works.
>>154623042They post on /co/.
....this thread reeks of twitterfags
>>154623042I'm a larper. I buy merch of series I hear in mainstream media. You're lucky I'm keeping your stupid franchise alive
>>154623042Whenever they mention some 6-12 issues mini as their favorite comic book.
>>154638780People mock you, but every single comic shop I've asked about Usagi Yojimbo had no clue what the hell that is. I'm barely an entry level comic reader myself but sheesh, it's embarassing. You'd think the slew of TMNT crossovers would at least have employees saying "That rabbit samurai has a comic book?"
>>154639329try showering once in a while