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All of Bubble's love

>>154631828
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I prefer Dickin's Cider
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A. I. Is here and it's queer
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>>154635236
I drew this lmao.
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>>154635260
based, what do you think of this?
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>tfw you will never have an autistically large collection of Pomni merch
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>>154635267
Kinda gross.
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Jax walking past Ribbit's room and seeing the words "there is still time" written in blue chalk on the door
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How do I decide which plushie I should buy. I think 2 is too much. I prefer pomni but the jax maid is funny
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>>154635285
Pomni and Ragatha, and make them have sesbian lex with each other.
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>>154635285
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>>154634196 #
It would be easier if they had Scratch.
Caine must have some amount of understanding of the mindfile.dats, or he wouldn't be able to make bodies they can inhabit. He also doesn't understand them completely though, or he could undo abstraction (and do more than temporary modifiers without causing it). He could try to produce hybrids of abigail.dat and leeroy.dat, but there'd be a high chance of immediate abstraction (picture 99% fetal mortality).
On the other hand, he could make a .lisp program that mimics his own. That's almost definitely how he does the NPCs; he could just put more time and thought into one that's based on Jax and Pomni. Access to wifi would help, since the outside world made a lot of advancements in AI between 1996 and 2017, and Kinger could probably lend a hand. But then there's no way around the fact that it would be as much of an AI as Caine is, and they could only add in traits of Jax and Pomni that they already knew about (and things they mistakenly assumed).
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I need them to make a full set of figmas for every character. Then I can have everyone team up to fight Great Ape Vegeta.
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I love Jax, but I must sleep
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just finished a game I thought was a spooky comedy that became a horror tragedy and though there was some hope to the melancholy ending I'm still left feeling sad. I can't help but wonder how this tiny indie game was able to hit me harder than TADC's ending did despite having a tiny fraction of the buildup culminating in a sort of similar reveal.
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>>154635293
>>154635292
I'm in computer science but I'm not making much
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Everyone died in 2025 when the C&A building was bulldozed for an AI data center,.
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Gluttonous, greedy pest!
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Why doesn't the frog get more blame for deliberately isolating themselves instead of talking to the other three people in the circus?

In Jaxs experience, anyone he opens up to died. But Ribbit just had one falling out and killed themselves. In such a way that Jax would find her body and be traumatized.
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>>154635318
>Why doesn't the frog get more blame for deliberately isolating themselves instead of talking to the other three people in the circus?
Because people want to fuck her. Simple as.
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>>154635304
Same, and also same

Goodnight
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>>154635309
well, looks like someone is gonna have to start donating blood in order to fund their collection!
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Jax sucks.
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>>154635373
Pee
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so was bubble…?
>abel
>caine’s inner guilt
>a random npc
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>>154635318
the show is about talking to each other so the other characters gets to talk to each other once to meet the quota while the rest dies
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Drew a pompom before bed. Goodnight pomni. Goodnight me. Goodnight (YOU).
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>>154635401
The blue A.I. that was absorbed by Caine.
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remember in the first episode when jax said that kinger had “supposedly” been in the circus the longest? why didn’t ragatha confirm that to be the case as when she first arrived, it was only her and kinger (who was already there)
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>>154635407
good night amigo
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>>154635407

OC Anchor

whiteboard
https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25893202-6557-4427
+
/co/llection
https://co.llection.pics/post/list/the_amazing_digital_circus
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how did ragatha not discover that kinger became lucid in the dark when they were the only two unabstracted humans?
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>>154635401
Some amalgam of the second, the blue AI and also Gooseworx saying things.
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>>154635318
Because woman. Yes, I know I’m a misogynist, so are you.
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>>154635415
Goose hadn't decided on that yet
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>>154635415
Would that have happened? Did I miss that?
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fuck, i just del taco and these burritos are so bad that i think i just got more depressed... the god damn frijoles in this sucker taste like paste, and not the good kind with sugar
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>>154635401
A personification of his inner guilt and intrusive thoughts that started when he absorbed Abel
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im gonna go play video games and stare at princess loolilalu and ragatha and evil ragatha so i wont be so angry anymore at taco bell
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>>154635527
i mean del taco, motherfucking burritos were so bad i had to throw it away and i cant even think
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>>154635426
She isn't too bright.
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>supervisor says i need to work on my body language and voice
>says i come off as too gay
>not watching the footy, not drinking alcohol, super gay
>green hatchback ? Totally a girl's car.
>they saw my Jax suit Pomni on a work call today, now they say thats totally a gay thing to have, not knowing about my other TADC merch
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>>154635535
Del taco?
The place that has free shavacado?
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>>154635544
>Not watching soccer is gay
You come from a gay country anon.
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>>154635535
>>154635527
Hey, Polly

You go on an adventure. And you realize that its only you, fishguy, limpy, and Jax on a cruise ship.

All the ais are gummigoos

You and fishguy are sharing a cabin, so are limpy and jax.

There is a stage show of Priscilla queen of the desert with dinner tonight.

Thoughts? Limpy planned this adventute, BTW.
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AWOOOOOGA
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they’re so cute :3
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>>154635567
>Thoughts?
there seems to be a distinct lack of R _ _ _ _ _ _ in this adventure
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I want to cuddle with Jax and twiddle with the ends of his ears. Feeling how hot they get when I kiss his forehead.
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>still believing abandoned building narrative

Grant took the computer home when C&A closed down in 2008 (before Suzie put on the headset while surveying the office for sale) and everyone that joined after that point was just one of Grant’s daughters friends that got curious about “epic nostalgic Windows 95 PC” in the basement. All of the latest humans seem to be similar age of his daughter throughout the 2010s as implied on her FB showing her education and employment.

It was never confirmed that they all arrived via an abandoned building; it seems that none of them had clear memories of the moment they put on the headset.
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>>154635608
Bullshit
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Pomni is...
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>>154635609
Long ass ears necessitate petting
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>>154635554
after this sleight from del taco, its very likely that i SHAN'T be asking for avocado
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>>154635633
Perfect
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>>154635633
My wife
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>>154635568
>>154635584
Stop trying to make me like Zooble
it's working
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I self insert as jax
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>>154635717
Hi Goose.
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i always like enemies to lovers
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>>154635608
That's bullshit...but I believe it.
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>>154635633
squished
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>>154635784
would you love your waifu or husbando if she/he were a puddle?
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>>154635808
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>>154635808
uhhh what kind of hand gesture did pomni do? also why isn't the gesture jax is making not censored?
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How about an adventure where Zooble and Gangle fuck like the feral FREAKS they are and everyone else sits around and watches, maybe jerks it a little, maybe take some notes, Ragatha, maybe you should take some notes, learn how to spice things up in the bedroom.
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>>154635833
>"But I don't like spicy things."
>"Just take down notes, Ragatha..."
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>>154635828
middle finger
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Slowly but surely I am getting my next Digital Circus comic done
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>>154635862
we missed you, fella
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>>154635864
I've been around, just having a hard time with Circus stuff as of late
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>>154635869
i see, well its good to know we still got the amigos here
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>>154635880
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>>154635884
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>>154635594
yes, she is on a different cruise
in fact, all the NPCs are male, how strange
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>abstracting the characters
>Ribbit and Kaufmo seeing Jax with Pomni
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>>154635661
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1jRNeAjiF8s?feature=share
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burgers aren't the same without Jax...
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>>154635937
yeah, it's like, where's that sweet and salty mayo?
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>>154635932
i want to eat some del taco with fresh ragatha foot lettuce
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>>154635943
Sorry
best i can do is Hungry Jacks with Jax foot lettuce and Jax "mayo"
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>>154635946
no thanks, i think i will just starve until i can get my hands (and face) on some evil ragatha pusy
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Their ability to deal with being stuck with Jax in a room forever is impressive
Most abstract after a month tops
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>>154635948
>Jax discovering everyone actually likes his "mayo" prank
>he discovers his semen is delicious
>he can't tell anyone this
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>>154635253
AI is pretty fuckin gay I'll give it that.
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>>154635937
>>154635939
>POV: You demanded Jax to apply his special sauce to your burger
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>>154635272
There are still many different Pomni toys you can purchase, don't give up my nega.
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I dream of Jax being unabstracted
He tries to be his old self, but really he's deeply reliant on Pomni, and can't bring himself to harm the others
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>>154635955
Jax has like a massive pile of embarrassing things he gets pissy over before tormenting gangle again
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I'm scared
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>>154636000
hOLY
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let's fix it
1. Ribbit is a guy
2. Jax and ribbit had a gay moment
3. holding hands, they get closer, their hands around each other, mouths about to
4.KNOCK KNOCK kaufmo
5. jax freaks out and that causes the fallout
6.Pomni saves Jax with the power of love
7. Jax and pomni embrace, kiss
8. Gangle's like "Wait, Jax isn't gay?"
9. everyone knew Jax was Gay, and is confused he's now kissing Pomni
10. orgy final scene, fully animated, released on pornhub
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lol why is Michael such a dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DsHpeRjPAU
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>>154636009
He's gonna look SO silly in a few years when they do Digital Circus season 2
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>>154636009
The way they're all so condescendingly defensive of the canon before daring to answer baby's first hypothetical lmao
Alex seems to have a degree of chill/cope at least
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>>154636019
>>154636108
Glitch is baiting hard, i think that they have plans for a season 2, not involving much goose
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what happened to Gooseworx tumblr, is it true tumblr nuked it
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>>154636232
his "jokes" about hurting women
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I crave Ragatha x Pomni. Give me suggestions for good Ragapom fluff and/or smut. Preferably keep the angst/drama to a minimum, I'd prefer only jesterdoll goodtimes, either of the wholesome or horny variety.
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Possible Plotlines in season 2

1. Jax comes back, obviously, now scared of the dark and of being alone. Zooble is the first one to realize how fucked up Jax is and actually helps him.

2. Jax reveals he learned Japanese purely to annoy Gangle, and spends the whole episode confessing his true feelings in Japanese. The rest of the episode completely ignores him and is about everyone else actually practicing hobbies

3. Gangle's anime convention adventure. Jax is tricked into a Card Captor Sakura costume, and sings the theme song, almost dying when he realizes everyone else heard it. The rest of the gang investigate their own favourite amines.

4. A hiking adventure with bird photography mission

5. The fucking carnival
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>>154636251
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how did goose do it? so many cute girls in this funny little show
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Why do fanarts depict the funnybunny relationship so wholesome. it makes me sad I'll never have that
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>>154636269
It is really weird that the Digital Carnival was never used.
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>>154636312
Because Jax is gay, 100% obviously gay. So for him to fall for a woman means he really loves her
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>>154636323
>It is really weird that
the caine is manipulating their brains and that causes abstraction plot was never used

that the background NPC was a pointless plotline setup for episode 7

that nobody noticed Kinger is sane in the dark

that nobody talked to each other before now

that ribbit didn't talk to Ragatha and Kaufmo, who she had known for longer

That kaufmo didn't talk to zooble, gangle, or ragatha, just jax

that they needed to add voice over to a single scene in the entire show
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What part of TADC would suffer if Zooble's character was completely erased?
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>>154636471
the part where gangle and zooble become scissor sisters, jackass
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>>154636479
But Gangle is canonically weak to scissors
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>>154636341
The characters occupy a silent void when not on screen, never conversing with each other or engaging in any way, shape, or form.
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>>154636326
This doesn't feel canon
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Okay, who's the motherfucker who said Zooble and Gangle were unwifable last thread?

because you're only partially correct
i wanna be THEIR wife
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evil ragatha...
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A pox upon yuriniggers.
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>>154635285
Buy first the plush that you will genuinely enjoy and love, so Pomni.
Then buy the funny meme plush second only if you decide to spend extra.
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>>154635544
Just explain to him that you're a straight faggot and that this is normal in 2026
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>>154635633
This >>154635680
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>>154635544
Come onto your supervisor. It's the only option now.
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>>154635310
This is canon now
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Are there any differences between the Youtube upload of the finale and the theatrical release?
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Why is Jester so evil again? Is it just for her entertainment?
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>>154636823
is this just a meme or some kinda autistic yolky type AU
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>>154636821
There was a before-movie message from the fish voiced by the Oneyplays guy
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>>154636843
It's based on the DuffyFilmz AU
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>>154635568
The amazing digital size inconsistentency
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>>154635765
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>>154635544
Why do they care if you 'act gay' or not? Why would they even care if you WERE gay?
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>>154636471
The part where I was able to watch it
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING RAGNAM
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I would never kill myself if I got scanned into the Circus. Are you kidding me? That would be incredible. There’s nothing they could throw at me in there that would be worse than having to go to work everyday.
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>>154637085
You may get what you ask for, Anon, but not what you actually want.
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where is my blu-ray box set???
Glitch do you hate money?
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>>154637085
This is a mindset that would have been really cool thing to explore in the show for 6 episodes and then abruptly decide "lol actually no he's just a tranny also she's dead"
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>>154637058
ragatha
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>>154637058
Morning thug
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>>154637098
i'm gonna make a bunch of bootleg DVDs and all the money they could have will be mine instead muahahahahaha
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>>154637114
get a dvd to vhs converter and capture the video tape market
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>>154637139
actually my next format was gonna be video cd because I can't be arsed to dig out my old vcr and repair it AGAIN but I will take this suggestion under consideration
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>>154637114
I bet there's a zillion zoomers who would unironically eat up a VHS release, since it'd be thematic and they're all into "analog" shit
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>>154637149
>no TADC mini-disks for my psp
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>>154637085
>There’s nothing they could throw at me in there that would be worse than having to go to work everyday.
I cast caine trapping you in an endless spudsy's adventure
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>>154637155
the amazing analog circus
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>>154637162
how the FUCK do you write custom UMD video disks
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funnybunny for the soul
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>>154637178
i dunno, ask a saged chinese bootlegger for their wisdom
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>>154637139
>>154637149
I actually did burn the pilot episode to a DVD, played it on my PS3, fed that output to my old VCR, recorded it onto a blank VHS tape, and now technically have the pilot episode of TADC on a VHS tape. I don't feel like doing it with any other episodes because it's a lot of work and I have to dig out very old equipment.
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>>154637186
I know its purely fanon, but GOD YES JAX, I WANT A STRAIGHT COUPLE!
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>>154637114
>recorded on Nokia phone
>playing on old shrek tv crt
>Spanish dub
>constant lawnmowers in the background
>parents fighting
>person recording moans uncontrollably when Ragatha is on scream
>halfway through the series the power goes out and he acts out the rest of the show
Make it happen anon and I'll buy your entire betamax stock
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>>154637273
i dunno why that reminded me of the camrip of backrooms and someones sassy black grandma says "your arm is gonna get tired doing that!" and the guy recording says "grandma!" in a loud whisper and that shit made me laugh so hard. dunno if this video is still up but i saved this because of the name (im looking at you fishguy)
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I'm curious about who's still here:
https://strawpoll.com/GeZARkDv1yV
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>>154637268
>only the pilot, which basically is a self contained horror story of being trapped in a computer
>on VHS

I can only imagine being a kid, finding this tape, and watching it not knowing what tadc is or that any other episode exists
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>>154637353
Add an option for liked the finale but wish Goose and the VAs would shut the fuck up
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>>154637353
>https://strawpoll.com/GeZARkDv1yV
There's no option for people who've hated the show the whole time.
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Do you think they still do the theme song every day and we just don't see it, or was it a one-time thing when Pomni arrived
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>>154637353
Add an option for liked the finale but wish Goose and the VAs would talk about the show even more
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>>154637384
Ok man, idk why anyone would do that but I added the option

>>154637381
Valid, but too specific for my research
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>>154637395
I thought the finale implied its done every day
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>>154637403
>Valid, but too specific for my research
Not that anon but I think it's really a genuine divide. The finale basically has two interpretations: just "jax abstracts and that's it", which maybe has some mediocre storywriting and can be criticised but can still be enjoyed; and "jax is trans btw" and all the other baggage from the post-finale tweets, which is kind of rolled into the finale reveal by association simply because none of this lore existed before the finale drop, and shit like the Ribbit scene and "isn't she lovely" are recontextualised by those tweets.

So I'd imagine there might well be significant disparity between people who dislike the finale for story reasons and people who dislike it purely due to the tumblr lore reasons ruining the subtext.
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>>154637418
I haven't watched the finale
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>>154637426
I mean strawpolls are free if you wanna make a second one focussing on that aspect
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>>154636927
A few threads ago, I said I saw this movie "for research purposes," now it's making me ask too many questions...
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>>154637456
You already started and fewer people would respond to a second strawpoll
Then again you also already have responses so adding it now wouldn't result in perfect data anyway so fair enough
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>>154636619
That's actually a simple solution. The shipping costs still increase by 50% per added item, so there's barely a reason to bulk purchase
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>>154637520
What about it
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>>154637520
There's still time.
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Why would i be mad over goose talking about the show when she confirmed almost every theory i already had
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>>154636939
I'm just gonna headcanon that different zooble legs give her different height.
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>>154635425
wanted to try out that edgy Y2K art style so I drew an edgy Y2K Ragatha with her new lucky rabbit's foot
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>>154637578
c-cute ragatha
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>>154637578
Cute
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>>154637578
She definitely would love this.
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>>154637520
It's A24 so I'm gonna assume it's about gender or trooning out, either way don't start with the grooming shit
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>>154637578
Cute Ragatha, love the rabbit foot
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It's nice to be secure in my AGP/TFTG fetish and be immune to tranny propaganda
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>>154637634
>don't start with the grooming shit
I wasn't?
>It's A24 so I'm gonna assume it's about gender or trooning out
That's not what Backrooms, the literal only other A24 film I've seen, was about.
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>>154637578
i love love love this thank you anon
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I would enjoy TADC more if it wasn't indie.
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>>154637699
Why?
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I would enjoy TADC more if it was more indie.
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>>154637699
I'd say Glitch wasn't indie by the end but I doubt that had an effect on Goose's writing going downhill
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>>154637712
real script writers that would not have allowed that ass finale
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>>154637722
>Goose's writing going downhill
when was it uphill?
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>>154637721
unironically this, TADC became too big for its own good
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>>154637684
That is a notorious shitposter here that always posts ragatha while having a melty about trans people, just ignore
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>>154637729
I mean they're great at creating a setting and building intrigue but then again these are notoriously easier than making an actual payoff
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>>154635633
Adorable!
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>>154637729
Episodes 1-5
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>>154637726
I don't know, there's a lot of ass finales in mainstream television as well.
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>>154636239
okay im surprised fame didnt save them.
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>>154637772
Who's the spic? I respect their dedication to frog ass
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>>154637807
Looks more like a macaco to me
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>>154637772
I know a sonic artist when i see one
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>>154637734
That doesn't happen out of nowhere though, it accidentally hit on a huge aspect of the cultural zeitgeist without even realising it, then refused to budge from it's myopic le artistic vision
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good morning, no nightmares this time so its a better day
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>>154637766
Yeah but at least by the time that happens, it's generally been milked for all it's worth and has experienced a long enough period of decline as to allow viewers to detach and brace for the ass. TADC was rapidfire peak to ass. The Ass To Mouth of animation.
(nta)
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>>154637856
that's good
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>>154637858
Was it ever confirmed if the 9 episodes was Goose or Glitch?
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>>154637883
Goose through and through. Said that partway through he would want more episodes, but thought Glitch wouldn't like that. Never actually asked, just assumed.
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>>154637883
I vaguely remember Goose saying it was his decision to do 9 episodes, and that Glitch would have allowed for more but he thought it didn't need it. Or maybe I hallucinated that.
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>>154637891
Why are you making shit up
>>154637895
You are correct she did say that, specifically that glitch would have been fine with more but the agreed upon was only 9 episodes
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>>154637856
If you're having issues with nightmares, I found that a body pillow to hold onto while sleeping really helps. You don't even need one with an anime girl on it, they sell blank covers.
Pic related is the one that I have and its great. They even have a cooling version if you get hot. They're pricy but they're genuinely great.
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>>154637883
Glitch doesn't have infinite resources. As much as Goose claimed early on that 9 episodes was her choice, it's pretty obvious that it was a "choice" insofar as "that's what Glitch was offering and she said yes".
It's not a coincidence that all their shows just happen to have about the same amount of episodes.
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>>154637895
>>154637904
Damn shame, kinda seems like more episodes would've made the show better while benefiting everyone
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>>154637904
I don't know, why are you a fucking faggot?
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i don't understand the concept of making stuff up in a place full of people that know almost everything about a show already
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>>154637913
Holy fuck what a dream find. How does the cooling one work?
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>>154637916
everyone except goose yeah
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>>154637915
Yeah but every episode brings merch opportunity, not to mention thr fact that TADC was their golden goose, they would've happily made it last a little longer
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>>154637923
From what I understand, the cooling one uses a specific material that absorbs very little heat from the air, making it feel cool when holding onto for about an hour or so.
Like I said though, they're a bit pricey (the cooling version especially) but man they are awesome.
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>>154637913
I actually sleep with 2 body pillows and a reasonably sized stuffed tiger. Just been really emotional lately with the finale digging up some buried trauma I have (abandonment and self worth, not trans stuff), so my nightmares have started up again. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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>>154637913
The typical advice where I'm from is to get a lifesize plush. I don't think anybody really makes TADC lifesizes though...
>>154637961
Hugging a Jax would surely feel better than hugging some tiger
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>>154637939
See >>154637917
I can't account for Glitch's retarded business decisions, but if Goose is to be believed, they were very much decisions
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>>154637917
What she is trying to say here is that she wasnt granted infinite resources since Glitch only really had Murder Drones before TADC and manpower was limited to fully flesh out this show completely.

I think you guys are imagining a dream scenario were this show is like 3 times longer and all of your favorite characters have their own dedicated arcs and episodes and every plot point gets explained, when the most likely thing she is speaking of here is just maybe 1 or 2 more additional episodes, another writer for help and like 10 more minutes in the ending. The story would have still been the same.
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>>154637961
Ah, thats fair. I wish you the best of luck with your sleep, anon.
Also, have you considered getting a Jax and Pomni cover for your two body pillows? Might help you sleep.
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>>154637985
Duh
But "the same story with room to actually do its thing" is a world of difference
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>>154637961
Get an alarm clock you can use instead of your phone so you can leave it charging in another room so you're not tempted to use it, if you can get one to play youtube videos there's a lot of ambient rain sounds on there to help
Start showering before bed as a way to relax, afterwards avoid vidya and just read a few chapters from a book
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>>154637961
If you're in the US, check to see if Delta 9 edibles are legal where you live. THC is known for suppressing dreams (can confirm, had way fewer dreams back when I took that kind of stuff)
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>>154637904
>she
Cooper Goodwin
He
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>>154638052
I call her whatever the fuck i want you corny faggot
Stop gobbling on my cock and go cry about muh hucking proununs somewhere else
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>>154637934
>take on the writing, music, storyboarding all by myself
>damn why am i stressed making each episode

Ill give her slack since its her first time but.... how could she not have seen that coming
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>>154638104
No one sees it coming, most people think they can "just handle it" especially when you are getting professional help from other people
Everyone thinks they can be like Toby Fox if given the chance
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>>154637985
>I think you guys are imagining a dream scenario were this show is like 3 times longer

And I think you're exaggerating for the sake of argument. Most people agree 1-3 additional epsiodes max would be more than sufficient for better pacing and better exploration of the other themes that the show has.
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>>154638104
She also had the better part of 3 years to be like "Hey, this is a lot, I think I need to step back and leave some of these departments in other capable hands"
Granted, her Lost Media tumblr posts seem to suggest she wasn't given those resources (or simply didn't trust the resources she was given)
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working on some educational software
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>>154638121
I dont know how Glitch productions is from the inside but this is also partially their fault for not seeing how obviously publicly stressed out she was getting from this and not offering any help. Like this is the creator of your golden goose series and shes stressed enough to the point of getting mad at retards on reddit why are you not trying to help or do anything.
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>>154638125
Glitch would have to be the dumbest, most incompetent company of all time to deny their golden goose some structural support so they could make more of the money printing global phenomenon show
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Heh golden goose
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>>154638172
IS ON THE LOOSE, AND NEVER OUT OF SEASON
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>>154638158
Maybe the contract said something like, "You get full creative control over the story and characters," and they genuinely think that's to their creators' benefit and stepping in would be a violation of that. Not saying that definitively, just a benefit-of-the-doubt kinda thing
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>>154638167
This. I'm assuming Goose was too insecure to "negotiate" even when that negotiation is basically being given anything they could possibly need to keep the show going as long as possible
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>>154638121
As a newcomer to the Toby Fox universe, his creative output is actually completely fucking insane to me.
Granted, he has an advantage over Goose in that (as far as I understand) his creative team was handpicked by him and everything just kinda came together organically with Undertale (while they were all young and full of hope, no less) and its success left him with enough money to do nothing but zero in on his creative vision for Deltarune.
Goose on the other hand was doing her own semi-obscure avant garde shit well into adulthood and then got head hunted by Glitch rather than seeking out anything like this, and the learning curve as far as the different ways of working ended up being a 'square peg in a round hole' situation. Kinda like when Buckethead got peer pressured into joining Guns N Roses and then they fired him for being weird and he was like "But that's what I tried to tell you!"
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>>154638167
>>154638158
Before this they worked with Liam on Murder drones, and he could do everything just fine. His meltdown happened later, after he refused to release the rights to make a second season.

Glitch adapted, they own 100% of TADC, and now they have adapted again and have support for their next creators.
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>>154638158
I mean how steessed did Goose seem publicly other than making tweets about how much she's working on the new episode?

It's not really your employers obligation to reach out to you unless they see a drop in your productivity. Its on Goose to inform them if she was feeling too stressed out about deadlines or workload or whatever.
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And at the same time, as someone that wants to do their own creative project one day, i get it.
I also would much prefer if i did or atleast directed most of it, its my child i want to mold every trinket of it to my tastes.
Sometimes you really just can't tho. I know for a fact that music is my biggest weakness and theres no chance in hell im lecturing someone else on how I want the music to sound when i can't even play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
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The finale ost is never dropping, is it.
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>>154638197
>glitch when Goose blocked everyone on every platform and they had to send someone to their address to find them after a week
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>>154638004
I do a lot of these already, it's just that some days those voices are louder than others. I really do appreciate your suggestions though.
>>154638030
Combining THC with my meds are a bad idea and I'm already at risk for substance abuse so I'd rather not tempt fate, thanks though. You are all very kind.
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>>154638194
given that most of goose's portfolio is highly visual/auditory media with very little dialogue at all, it's really no wonder that TADC is a show with great everything but dogshit writing and plot
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>>154638189
I think it is to their benefit since it means we get more interesting personal art but they should also do something when its getting too much to the creators. You dont want someone to get fucking depressed over making your companies cartoon.
>>154638194
Yeah toby is a freak, not everyone can do everything by themselves like that. Which is sad, but more creatives need to know that.
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>>154638201
It pays off if they know what they're doing but studios can't get involved and bitch aboutproduction time, I mean look at venture bros, every season is amazing but there was like 3-4 years between seasons
>>154638210
Take the book thing into consideration the most and unfortunately that includes posting on here, giving your brain some wind down time will make you fall asleep almost instantly most nights if you're looking for suggestions I would recommend the red rising series
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>>154638201
I think the Goose was doing good on her own until the finale. Just the mere decision of making the finale solely about Jax instead of it being the 2nd to last episode kinda fucked it all up for me.
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>>154638158
>>154638189
I get the vibe that Glitch probably has contracts with a bunch of other pre-greenlit pilots (Knights, Gaslight, Gamoverse, etc) and had to free up their resources to start production on those by a certain date.
If they were smart, maybe there were negotiations to cut TADC's story short and spread it out to a full second season after a hiatus. But if so, Goose seemed pretty fucking burnt out and generally unhappy with the production process, so I can see her saying no and wanting to at most maybe extend season 1 by a few episodes, with them being unwilling/unable to budge. Then the theatrical release comes in as a compromise, allowing them to milk it for all its worth before it spoils.
Yes, this is my fanfic about what happened based on vibes.
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This dumb bratty fucking bunny, always acting so erotic...
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how is cyberbullying real bro haha just close your eyes like walk away from the screen
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>>154638261
yeah so funny how everyone babies goose when her networth is probably in the millions by now
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>>154638242
Well i can't say i agree on that but sure.
And its not really about the quality of the show tho, just more about the general health of the person, you could see how much doing that much shit with the shows production plus having to deal with being chronically online and surrounded by retarded children that follow her on xitter was taking a toll on her brain.
>>154638245
I believe that the 9 episodes thing really was what was what was agreed upon and that was the end of it aside from Goose wondering if she should have done more episodes later after getting feedback.
I can see that happening if it wasn't TADC specifically but another Glitch creator. But idk i think Glitch definitely treats TADC like their golden child.
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>>154638285
The twitter / reddit shit is quite literally self inflicted, I dont get why Goose chooses to directly interact with the fandom
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>>154638285
Really was what was agreed upon*
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>>154635307
Well? This isn't Twitter anon. What's the game called? It sounds similar to Anthology of the Killer but I don't recognize your image
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>>154638294
>I dont get why Goose chooses to directly interact with the fandom
Check her YouTube; some of her earliest videos are orchestral remakes of video game songs (probably back when she was still "he," I'm not quite sure). She's a native to fandom culture.
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>>154638285
>I believe that the 9 episodes thing really was what was what was agreed upon
Oh for sure. It's just that the breakaway success was completely unforseen by anyone involved, and I can see Glitch thinking "How about a second season?" and Goose thinking "A second season would kill me, how about 3 more episodes?" with them coming to an impasse due to the powers that be.
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>>154635307
>a spooky comedy that became a horror tragedy
This is relevant to my interests
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i remember after the whole reddit debacle a bunch of artists started a "Goose tribute week". Goose shutted that shit down very quickly
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90% of the problems with TADC were caused by Goose acting like they were a niche tumblr creator making stuff for their mutuals instead of the sole visible authority of a huge multi-million dollar property, the fact that Glitch didn't park a PR department between the audience and them is madness
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>>154638337
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is it tushy tuesday yet?
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>>154638300
>>154638340
Reverse image search comes in clutch
'Mesmalie' on Steam
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>>154638337
>>154638346
Cute lmfao
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>>154638343
tadc was never meant to become that huge and goose was against it hitting theaters, it was supposed to be a small, medium popular internet thing only folks that care about indie animation would know about.
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>>154638348
it could be...
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>>154638361
It definitely did benefit alot from getting that big
Animation wise atleast (and they would probably never get that isnt she lovely license otherwise)
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>>154638324
Not really an excuse... if the fandom stresses her out then she can just learn to delete twitter lol
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>>154638300
>Anthology of The Killer
based taste
>>154638340
what >>154638352 said, it just released with a 15% discount. it's short but well worth the asking price and I just love everything about it
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>>154637085
>Enter Spudzys.
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>>154638370
Honestly I question why they sunk so much money into upping the production quality at all, considering not only did they not regroup and resolve to milk over a second season, but the janky 90s aesthetic was part of the appeal to begin with, and its loss only worsens the "Wait, this whole show was all designed to revolve around some repper faggot this entire time?" whiplash at the end
I can only assume it was basically a test dummy on which Glitch could test more advanced production workflows
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I wake up

I funnybunny
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>>154636512
The bar scene confirmed this is 100% canon.
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i see funnybunny i post funnybunny
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>>154638407
A dangerous feedback loop
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funnybunny calls to me
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>>154638375
>she can just learn to delete twitter
You have any idea how much of a handicap that is to someone whose entire job is to make things for the internet? You can yeet Tumblr relatively easily---there's less people and no porn. I think even BlueSky, of all things, surpassed Tumblr by now, and there are still way more people who only use Twitter than only use BlueSky.
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What is the best place to get good funnybunny art?
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>>154638424
xitter, pixiv maybe tumblr
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>>154638361
you can fight against your situation all you want, but you cannot force it to change
you can either roll with the punches or crumble under the pressure, and goose chose the latter
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i miss jax
i miss him a lot
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>>154638440
Ahhhhh they're too fucking cute
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>Seeing the bar scene, observing the underlying character dynamics, seeing the potential, and thinking the show is amazing
>Watching the bar scene again, questioning how these conversations have never happened before, and thinking maybe this show's just okay
>Watching the bar scene over and over and over and picking apart how 'actually no one technically responds to anything as if they've never heard it before unless it's plausible that that character had never heard it before and here's an essay per character on why their responses are the way they are and why Goose is a genius actually' and for some reason wilfully lulling yourself into a comfortable psychosis where it is indeed an amazing show
>Watching the finale and realising the show was pure autismbait that got the better of you and was in fact just okay after all
It was a while ride, I'll say that much
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>>154638277
everyone coddles goose without really considering that they're essentially putting a fuck ton of people out of a job with this whole
>dood I'm so le stressed from looking at reddit and twitter all day :(
walkaway shtick
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>>154635278
Is that a "i saw the tv glow" ref?
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Is 'I Saw The TV Glow' even good or is it just 'Elephant' for trannies?
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>people are actually considering watching tranny media

Man, this show really did turn people into tranny lovers didn't it
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>>154638534
Couple of troons fishing for grooming opportunities
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>>154638534
Not really. Anyone that say the finale and thought Jax was trans from that alone were already in the know about trannies.
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>>154638534
I was so neutral on it all, but the show has somehow many me more transphobic AND more trans
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I like spending my time high watching people react to this show. So far I've watched some minecraft player watch it, a korean group that never bothered watching past ep2 (not surprising they would never stop joking around and weren't really paying attention to anything), a therapist, and now some aspie aussie girl who will make like 5 hour long vids on a single episode.
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>>154638534
tv glow and the tadc finale unironically made me realize i've been repressing gender dysphoria for over a decade
i'd rather vanish into oblivion than transition though, just not feasible for me really
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>>154638340
>>154638300
It's also in the filename
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>>154638566
>5 hour long video
Man I'm glad I grew up in a time when youtube was just a place to watch videos and not an actual lifestyle
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>>154638578
You're not a troon, there are plenty of ways to like yourself that won't involve becoming an embarrassment to your family
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>>154638421
there is literally no reason to ever use twitter except for looking at art mainly porn despite the fact that it is one of the worst art sharing platforms out there due to file compression, forced login and timeline shenanigans
at a certain fandom size, the creator not directly interacting with their audience is a good thing
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>>154638556
based jaxxmaxxer
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>>154638580
Spoiler tags block filenames
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>>154638590
i dunno what makes you think i haven't tried
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>>154638594
It's also made me more self compassionate but more suicidal, so that checks out
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>>154638598
Well squeezing into womens clothing and insisting your name is now Chrysanthemum is not the answer
Gonna go out on a limb and say you need to get out more
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>>154638534
Look, I just saw some people making references to the movie in fan animations, so I watched it for myself, hence "research purposes." And now I'm wondering whether I talk to myself too much, or if the 5.8 on IMDb is just factually incorrect
>>154638547
See pic
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>>154638566
At this point, most of my rewatches have been through reactors, though theses days, knowing where the show ends up, its getting hard to bother with any more.
>>154638578
Its fine to explore that side of yourself, anon.
I went through it too. Eventually, I found acceptance in being male even if I'm not masculine.
Instead of repressing it, you're better off accepting that side of yourself so you can move on and learn to love who you already are.
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>>154638580
>9 bucks
anon...
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>>154638596
Genuine skill issue
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>>154638616
what?
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>>154635307
I'm curious, how much did it sell? Considering I assume you did close to zero marketing, what, 10000/15000 copies?
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>>154635307
Did it stick the landing at all?
and we're involved with the development at all because this feels like advertising
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>>154638651
*were you
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>>154638639
They say you can multiply the number of reviews by 5, so around 1600 in this case
Indies with near zero marketing routinely sell near zero copies, so 10k would be considered successful and even ~1500 is not terrible for a no-name zero-marketing indie
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>>154638624
I'm not spending nine dollaroos on a game made by a 4channer
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>>154638613
i get out often and my work requires me to deal with the public, that's why i'm counting on repressing it further instead of transitioning
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>>154638684
Wrong reply?
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>>154638578
It's fine to like feminine things as a man, I mean jesus until recently cooking was considered a woman skill but it's now considered one of the most attractive qualities in a man
Buy a few cookbooks or book a course if you feel like the social aspect will help
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>>154638684
>a game made by a 4channer
It was?
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>>154638704
Gender dysphoria does not mean liking feminine things holy shit, I'm not having this discussion here again
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Been messing around with Bryce4 a bit and I forgot how horrendous early software UIs could be. Just learning how to efficiently navigate it will be a task in and of itself.
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>people think anon made that game because he said he "finished it"
average TADC fan reading comprehension, everybody
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>>154637578
Neat.
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>>154638729
Anon, they're thinking that because he posted about how awesome his game is in a totally natural and organic way
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>>154638729
People legitimately post TADC YT videos here with like 108 views, trust me it happens
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>>154638718
the only trans person I know is mtf and basically a tomboy, she's probably more masculine know than before transitioning
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>>154635236
/ss/ Jax
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>>154638767
CUTE
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>>154638693
You're not repressing anything, you just know it was would a horrible irreversible decision
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>>154638834
Physically, I wouldn't really call it irreversible unless you do something gargantuanly retarded like getting bottom surgery. Socially is a different story, you'll always be seen as that person who trooned out.
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>>154638834
I forget how canon the commercials are considered, but the cast being aware of porn of themselves may be canon.
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>>154638883
>the cast being aware of porn of themselves may be canon.
Well, it's possible, after they get access to wifi.
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>>154638739
Seems like they could have, I dunno, not transed, if they going to still do manly things. Why complicate things?
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>>154638741
Pomni, Ragatha, or gangle, who goes first?
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Used to be one of the rotten ones and I liked you for that
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>>154638889
Turning the drama of The Circus into a reality(?) show could be an interesting revenue stream for C&A (or its successor companies).

Maybe that's what we were actually watching this whole time.

Perhaps Pomni was waving at the audience in the final frame knowing this was all being recorded.
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>>154638693
You should do whatever makes you happier anon, the lesson you should take from the show is to not repress if that is what is causing you pain
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evil ragatummy
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>>154638972
Yeah troon out, THEN kill yourself
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>>154638651
>>154638684
>>154638707
you're probably not gonna believe I just liked the game a lot, but that's really all there is to it. finished it at like 2AM last night and was sleepy enough that I thought posting about it on my main gen was a good idea. while I'm shilling weird shit I like buy Anthology of The Killer, too.
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>>154635236
bubble was the most consistently funny character
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>>154639059
I'm having a Bauwbl...
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So what was worse: Helluva becoming the Stolitz Show or This becoming the Jax Show?
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>got back from doctors office
>clean bill of health

Another day alive. Another day to post funnybunny.
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>>154639078
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>>154639068
helluva's fall off was harder but TADC wasted more potential
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>>154639083
What did you think was wrong?
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>>154639068
I mean, Hellava Boss definitely feels more drawn out with the Stolas stuff, while TADC felt much more concentrated with Jax.
In both instances though, I ignore the canon and live vicariously through fanon and hot fanart.
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>>154639094
Nothing. I'm just thirty five and I haven't gone to the doctor and over in decade and my sister kicked me in my ass to go.

Dad had Crohns disease so i'm keeping an eye out on that
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>>154639127
In over a decade*

Text to speech sucks
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funnybunny fuels the soul
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>HEY JAX! YOUR DICK IS SO SMALL THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD EVER PLEASE A WOMAN IS IF SHE WAS 4 FT TALL!
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>>154639127
Damn fair, mate of mine has that, doesn't sound pleasant
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>>154639153
>The next day:
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>>154638578
>gender dysphoria
Is not real, just cause you like girly things, or want a vagina to jerk off with, doesn’t mean you are a woman.
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>>154638379
thank you friendo

>>154638352
Have you considered that I'm retarded?
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>>154639247
Just don't be retarded then? Worked for me, now I'm just stupid.
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im gonna go to sleep thinking about themes and such
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>>154639297
why would you do that
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>>154639194
Why is gangles COCK yellow?
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>>154639342
Why isnt yours?
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>>154639342
maybe theres an amazing reason
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>>154639336
Probably because someone brought up a movie with similar themes and such, but executed in such a way that it's hard to stop thinking about. To me, at least...
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>>154635951
my dad is a mid 60s y.o old jax. he is better now but he used to be impossible to deal and be around with him for longer.
he didnt belittled me or was bully, he was kinda of a compulsive two faced liar.
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>>154639361
That’s only because you’re trans, I thought it was mid.
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>>154639372
>you’re trans
Zipidibop!
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taking ragatha to buffalo wild wings for our first date
taking evil ragatha out to del taco for our first date (speficially the location that gave me the worst burritos i have ever had in my life)
taking princess loolilalu to the candy section and the snacks and cookies section of dollar tree for our first date (naturally)
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i wanna make my own tranny comic/cartoon but i dont wanna be famous about it. i want it to be a thing only some people find.
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>>154639408
What the fuck?
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>>154639406
That's what alt accounts are for, homie
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>Jaxcels be like
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>>154639406
yeah I don't think you gotta worry about making it big, anon
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>>154635608
Jax was homeless when he went in. Not "I'm kind of bouncing between my friends houses" homeless, but possible fugitive sleep in an abandoned building homeless.

If this was true, the daughter would also be in the simulation. At some point she would have put on the headset. More than that, she no doubt would have done so more than once.

The abandoned building idea comes from 1)the fact that we see an empty building with a headset at a computer in Caine's exit-scape based on his limited images of the real world. Pomni reacts very knowingly to seeing that headset PC, suggesting but not confirming that a similar object in a similar environment led her to the circus.

And 2) Pomnis hobby being exploring abandoned buildings. This one basically makes it certain, because its clear that that very specific thing is her hobby to explain why she would have found the headset. Multiple characters have backgrounds to explain this; Pomni exploring it, Jax sleeping there when he's homeless, Ragatha as a real estate agent at some point being in there to see about the possibility of renovating or buying/selling the property, probably opting out.

This scenario also doesn't really make sense. Why would a pc running with experimental proprietary software be kept supplied with electricity for many years, and what explains brainscans being so clearly possible without ever being appreciated as an invention or developed further or reinvented in the meantime. But this general scenario that doesn't make sense is what is nevertheless intended by the show.
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>>154635717
RIP to this anon
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Remember to feed your Pom.
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>>154639683
even after midnight??
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damn this thread is dead as fuck today
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>>154639738
Yep. Also remember to give her plenty of sun and bathe her regularly
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>>154639751
its your fault, you killed the thread
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>>154639683
DO NOT FEED THE POMS! They are voracious little creatures that hunt in packs. If you run out of food (inevitable) they'll attack in a swarm and have you next. I repeat, do not feed poms if you value your life!
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>>154639751
Murricans still at work and euros are still suffering this god damn heatwave, who knows? Maybe some of them have lives
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>>154639760
but look at her

would you really say no to a face like this?
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>>154638578
You know your circumstances and I don't but really ask yourself if that's true. Even if for some people, in some countries, in some contexts it really isn't feasible, there are many people who think it isn't feasible when it is.

I'm not trans but if it really does seem like whats best for you it would be sad for you not to pursue it if it actually was far from impossible, especially if really the core obstacle was it being awkward and uncomfortable.
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another million burgers to Pomni
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>>154639817
This is the grooming shit we're talking about
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>>154639841
I am not transgender.
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>>154638578
>i'd rather vanish into oblivion than transition though,
Sure worked out for Jax, right?
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>>154639841
>do what makes you happy
>gRoOmEr!!1!!
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>>154639849
You don't have to be transgender to groom people
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>>154639862
>>154639858
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>>154639824
She can't stop winning.
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>>154639862
Well what do you think grooming means because this doesn't make any sense with the actual definition of it.
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>>154639872
>you'll be happier if you transition
>I'm not grooming!
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>>154639880
Pomni. Listen. We care about you, yeah? Everyone in this room is worried. You have an addiction and you need to admit it, Pomni. You need to stop with the burgers. It's hurting the ones you love. Just put the burgers down, Pompom.
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Why are str8s so angry? It was literally always an LGBTQ+ show.
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>>154639893
>>154639817 (NTA)
>if it really does seem like whats best for you it would be sad for you not to pursue it if it actually was far from impossible
If.
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>>154639911
If you say so.
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>>154639464
>Jaxcels be like I will never __________
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>>154639894
Never
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>>154639817
This is how I try to convince guys to masturbate with me
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>>154639919
Oh fuck off with the predatory shit, that anon needs to like himself more, and no that isn't about changing his perspectives he needs to start doing shit that he can feel proud about, looking after his health and getting out more to meet people
He doesn't need a bunch of perpetually online freaks convincing him to become and walking embarrassment to what little friends and family he had
Trooning is not a magical fix all button and it never was, want to feel better about yourself? Actually put the fucking work until you look in the mirror and actually see a person who is actively trying to improve
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>>154639963
jaxfags just love victim blaming huh
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>>154639958
>fuck off with the predatory shit
One anon said, of their own volition, "I have gender dysphoria." Another anon, wanting them to feel better, says, "It's your journey, take the path that looks best." Is the predation in the room with us?
>Trooning is not a magical fix all button and it never was
No one said.
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Friends.
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>>154638883
Caine said in the ad that you're posting a frame from
>Something that I canonically know NOTHING ABOUT
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>>154639987
JaxGODS just love telling the truth, no matter how much it hurts
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>>154639987
Jax didn't do anything wrong there, you aren't obligated to hang out with someone who is making you uncomfortable
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>>154639987
the only person who thinks this was Jax's fault is Jax
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>>154639963
"Relationships are a two-way street." --the literal King
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>>154639992
to the end
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>>154639999
QUADS ARE GODS

But for real, this isn't a case of Jax doing some bullying and people acting like he's a monster killing children, he literally just avoided someone who made him uncomfortable.
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>>154639958
If he could pass he would unironically feel proud of that though. He’s a hon, with a life outside of discord, so he can’t troon out even if he wanted to.
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>>154640006
he objectively did, but there's no point arguing with you again
>>154640010
because he's the only one alive who knows what happened
>>154640026
that's not all he did, watch the damn finale.
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>>154639990
Gender dysphoria is just another symptom of many others that all have the same cure, putting the work until you can look in the mirror and not hate yourself. It's usually a long fucking journey but there are no shortcuts
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>>154640006
You are when it makes the trans community feel uncomfortable
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>>154640006
Why are they in the smiling friends office?
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>>154640023
Cutest critters
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>>154640023
>>154640132
You know you could just cut these videos in half, since they just loop to make it longer
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The real reason people draw Pomni as a hamster
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>>154640149
I know, I didn't realize they looped once when I converted them and I've been too lazy to fix it

I guess I'll just fix em now
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>>154640159
Because of the official Hamster Pomni merch
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>>154640132
>>154640023
fixed
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>>154640196
and the other one
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If Jax just avoided Ribbit that'd be one thing but he
>claimed he lied about what he told her and then mocked her for believing him
>was cold to her whenever she offered to just hang out
>would basically announce his exit/presence whenever she showed up
>actively talked about her behind her back
>elevated his claim that he lied about his past to saying that talk never happened at all and accused Ribbit of trying to manipulate him
>basically unperson'd her once she abstracted
All the pathetic faggot had to do was say what happened was too much for him and that he needed space. He deserved to die.
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>>154640223
don't forget he manipulated Ragatha's need to not be hated so she would never talk about Ribbit ever again
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>>154640223
You really wanna have another circular argument, don't you?



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