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Refreshing edition
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Will you help him?
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>>154641011
adam i'm doing my best to find you a husband instead but you've only talked to two men...
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>>154641043
He ain't gay.
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>>154641011
Never give up.
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>>154641043
He doesn't want a husband dumbdumb. He wants a cute wifey.
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>>154641069
he's also not alive so what now
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>>154641116
He's so straight he came back from the dead just to remind everyone.
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>>154641136
sure when he's alive he's straight but when he's dead anything goes.
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>>154641144
Dying doesn't change your sexual orientation.
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>>154641105
he could be the cute femboy wifey, he's in frills and ribbons and a maid outfit for the japanese cafe merch.
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>>154641173
He's a cute femboy wifey (for women)
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>>154640967
actually genuine question about adam - is he wearing gloves or did his hands get burned black somehow like lucifer's have been implied to have been (jn protecting lilith from the fall damage by viv's twitter likes), and if so how?
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>>154641011
He sat on a rock and sulked just like this after Lilith left him.
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>>154641215
femboy wifey adam ties lute up with his ribbons
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This is the Adam and Eve/Lute dynamic i think
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>>154641239
Adam and Abel wear skin suits.
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>>154641269
YES
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>>154641269
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>>154641239
>burned black somehow like lucifer's have been implied to have been protecting lilith from the fall damage

I'm gonna sound like an ass but I genuinely think Viv just gave them black hands because she thinks they look good ( invader Zim nostalgia brainrot) and the whole Lucifer burned thing is just something a clever fan came up with and Viv didn't want to admit she wasn't smart enough to come up with that idea in the first place
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Milky you should know that directly because of you and your posts I have put my finger up a man's asshole for the first time. I owe a life debt to you
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>>154641239
It's gloves/bodysuit/whatever. Abel has the same thing.
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>>154640967
drinks this to make my penis erect
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“It is cuz Lute’s attractive and white—”

“YEEEEEESSS!!!”
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>>154641351
Context?
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https://collider.com/helluva-boss-season-3-horny-music-video-vivienne-medrano/

Be very afraid people.
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>>154641401
Fingered my partner after showing him M/F guitarspear butt stuff shared and discussed here. We both enjoyed it.
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>>154641408
I mean it's probably Stolitz slop. They can show gay men sex.
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>>154641323
Shouldn't it be the inverse? Adam sad and alone in the garden hoping for a much nicer wife only for the angels to create the psycho that is Eve/Lute.
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I’m fully expecting Abel and Lute to turn into darker skinned monsters.
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>>154641480
Bugcuck why are you racist?
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>>154641444
I just hate self-indulgence.
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>>154641480
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154641500
Adam saw something that resembles the uniform he wears. A strange sighting that can only be reduced to Abel as the prime suspect.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Lute’s exorcist uniform is based on her true appearance.
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>>154641351
>>154641413
are you a man or woman? i need to know if i can mastrubate to this.
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>>154641660
I'm a woman
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>>154641351
>>154641413
you are welcome i hope you both had fun.
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>>154641640
Again why are you racist? I can accept the misogyny but I draw the line at racism.
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>>154641768
Have you ever seen Lute pre-mask reveal art?
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>>154641640
the horns are a similar shape as blitzo's are so i like to think he saw blitzo and loved the vibe.
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>>154641792
That doesn't excuse your racism. It's not ok Bugcuck. You can't be racist, retarded, misogynistic and autistic. You can only do three and you have to drop the fourth one.
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>>154641722
Thanks. You're the best. I hope you find a million dollars on the floor.
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looking up 'hazbin adam pregnant' on google gave me so much fucking worthless adamsapple content.
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>>154641676
revolting.
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>>154641847
It’s not racist to like the characters that are darker skinned than the dark characters.
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>>154641871
What did you expect?
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>>154641871
What did you think would happen
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>>154641883
Doing blackface now Bugcuck? I had bigger expectations from you.
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>>154641908
Have you seen Adam and Lute fanart when people thought they looked like their mask designs? Don’t you want that?

Also, it would be Viv making Lute and Abel whiter like she did with Alastor.
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>>154641886
>>154641902
can i get a CRUMB of mpreg adam/alastor from this fanbase is it too much to ask
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>>154641873
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>>154641929
So much racism from you Bugcuck. You are truly Hitler's strongest soldier.
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>>154641931
I need more lute/adam mpreg, man
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>>154642109
you are so fucking right also
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>>154642109
>>154642133
Seahorse Adam and Lute
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>>154642148
She has to hump his big belly to get her eggs into his pouch
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>Adam
>Lute
>Adam
>Lute
>Lute
>Lilith
>Adam
>Adam
>Adam
Cool Hazbin Hotel thread you have.
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/co/ is an Adam board.
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>>154642255
Don’t worry. When Abel gets his season 3 episodes, he will never leave.
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>>154642375
I don't read instagram. Is Jessica tagging Viv in this?
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>>154642255
To be fair, we ran out of things to talk about ages ago so people are talking about their favorites.

There are only so many times you can talk about;
-Charlie is dumb and slowly getting dumber since Pilot
-Vaggie is basically a pet of Charlie that Charlie doesn't listen to
-Helluva Boss making a bunch of plot points in Hazbin Hotel dumb and Charlie even worse
-Weird racism in the show about Latinos
-Abuse Goblin Angel, where the guy is the punchbag of Vivziepop
-Weird mismatch of Biblical elements ranging from modern interpretation to Jewish folktales
-7 Year Exterminations, "Thousands of Innocents" plot black hole
-Alastor the Mystery Tumblr Sexyman losing all mystique, hype and ending up as a black slave of a white women that isn't even Lilith
-Lucifer the Dumbest Man Alive
-Lilith "Charlie is calling me for the thousandth time, I am too busy sunbathing and drinking in Heaven"
-My Little Sinner: Friendship is Slavery
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>>154642375
I'm not this on her story feed
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>>154642400
What’s the last one?
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Lmao Hot Topic are selling Guitarspear men's swimming trunks.
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Based Jessica Vosk making schizos trawl through posts about uncut cock before they can get more unsolicited spoilers.
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>>154642485
I’m too fabulous to wear those. The Hazbin Hotel logo is so dumb.
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>>154642503
Would you wear them if they removed the Hazbin logo?
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>>154642461
You know, the Friendship Beam with Charlie and the Overlords. Including Angel's good friend Valentino the Rapist Pimp and other Vees that repeatedly abused him.
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>>154642519
If the background was better.
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They should've added Adam's cum drink to the Bar Book
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>>154642539
That moment is so retarded I keep forgetting it’s actually real.
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>Lute’s right eye is revealed to be artificial.
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>>154642555
>Ingredients
1 can white Monster
Jizz
>Preparation
1. Pour Monster into a glass
2. Start jerking off
>For best results wear a maid dress while preparing
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>>154642255
who do you want to talk about instead, anon?
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>>154642707
Can we talk about Adam?
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Season 2 was the theme of identity. According to Viv.
Maybe it’s secretly important to season 3.
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>>154642710
yes tell me what you think his second favourite food after ribs is
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>>154642720
Pussy
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>>154640967
How did Adam even die? What is after heaven? Heaven 2?
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>>154642736
viv's liked some fanart where he has a giant fuckable tongue in the past so i believe it
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adams big butt
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>>154642771
pinchable, slappable AND biteable!
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what fan stuff does viv goon to
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>>154642805
Animals.
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>>154642737
No idea.
My bet is on reincarnating on Earth.

Plus we know neither Angelic Weapons nor Angelic Power stop Sinners from getting Redeemed or at least getting judged like a Mortal soul. Meaning soul isn't actually destroyed by them
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>>154642845
>>154642859
BUILT to be thrust into
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>>154641011
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>>154642605
>Time to make my drink, Sir.
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/Fin
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>>154642935
Thank you for your contributions
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>>154642935
so many beautiful adams...
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He's so based
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Why does Adam always wear his mask? I want to see his beautiful face all the time
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>>154642998
Material Viv is unable to write and relate with .
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>>154643053
Because there’s someone that once looked like that.
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Butt...
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>>154643056
>lucifer texts adam 'SUCK IT LOSER LOOK WHAT WE MADE' when charlie is born
>30 seconds later: 'I sincerely apologise for the poor conduct of my last message, it was inappropriate and unbecoming of me. Given your vast experience with childbirth, could you please explain what this thing is?'
>'placenta lmao also the first couple of poops are like weird black-green glue dw that's normal'
>'what name'
>'We were thinking Charlotte.'
>'tell baby charlie good luck shes gonna need it'
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>>154643151
Cute as fuck.
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>>154643160
looks like someone's anggi
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>>154643190
Won't someone think of the fictional gays and lesbians.
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>>154643190
hehe.
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>>154643160
I will never understand how these people think that 'canon' is some sort of magical force that somehow stops people from drawing whatever the fuck they want.
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>>154643218
The gayness removed Angel’s masculinity
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>>154643218
This is peak
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>>154643218
You can do it to the straits (TM) since they are the oppressors and heterosexuality is not real. You can't do it to the gays though!
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>>154643160
Why don't people post these kinds of comments under AdamsApple or HolyGates?
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>>154643160
>Does he know
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>>154643218
Is this was a ship Angel and Vaggi would be a lot more popular here
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>>154643277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEW-HrocdIU
Never forget.
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>>154643332
This alone would make Vaggi’s motivations work a lot more in the final show.
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>>154642950
No problem
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epic picture
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>>154643570
is hazbin the sonic of this generation?
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>>154643601
Yeah. But for some reason the good guys are the “villains”.
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>>154643601
It's Homestuck. Digital Circus is Undertale.
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>>154643601
Lucifer and Eggman have a lot of similarities
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>>154643613
Digital Circus is has no undertale elements at all.
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>>154643666
Gooseworx started out making music for Vivziepop projects then had a huge break with something that eclipsed Viv's popularity, just like what happened with Hussie and Toby. In TADC's case the popularity spike is probably temporary as Hazbin is still going and TADC's ending was bad.
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I’ve been thinking about making an Abel or maybe Serapherd thread on /cm/ what do you think? I honestly don’t want to spam Able images in these threads
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>>154643762
You get banned for posting female characters on /cm/ so no serapherd. That's why Adamfags never moved there. I don't think anyone cares if you dump images here, it's already an Adam imagedump most of the time.
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>>154643762
Abel is a really cool character but is screwed to not express it till season 3.
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I will never post on blimming /cm/
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>>154643865
That board is for fujos
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I’m so surprised Abel never gotten fanart related to Friend when his colorscheme is pink and gold.
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>>154643882
Half the catalog seems to be shota.
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>>154643865
>ywn rub your face against adam's soft feathers
why fucking live
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>>154643762
Please dump serapherd here
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>>154643900
That is fucked.
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but abel is cute and deserves his own thread
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>>154643918
I have a feeling Serpent Seed will boost him up a lot just from normal Adam interacting with him.
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>>154643913
I know right. Men should be mature and sweaty and smelly and hairy and have a big beer belly and should tell me to go get them another beer which I will do without question.
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>>154643963
Lute…
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Okay but seriously. Imagine sleeping draped over Adam's belly with your face pressed in the crook of his neck as you rise and fall gently with his breathing. His arm and wing are draped over you protectively. The air is thick with the scent of sex and musky sweat. You nuzzle up into his scruff and feel safer than you've ever felt in your life.
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/Co/, what are some Hazbin ships that you like? They don’t have to be canon ofc
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Adam and Abel being fat was a huge blessing in preventing them from having anorextic bodies
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>>154644093
These two.
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>>154644093
Lute/Emily, Lute/Roo, Lute/Vox,
Vox/Emily, Alastor/Emily, Roo/Lucifer
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>>154644150
Lucifer would probably replace Lilith with Roo at some point.
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>>154644126
Have you ever noticed how Abel’s halo is actually a soundwave crown. Making it fit into Emily’s tiara halo.
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>>154644093
I liked Charalastor back when it was just the pilot
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>>154644202
Alastor is her Blitzo.
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>>154641399
I see nothing but facts
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>>154642400
>Weird racism in the show about Latinos
Reminds me of how accidentally racist BioShock Infinite and its DLC were against Asians, despite half the game being critical of racism. Levine really can't write to save his life.
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>>154643936
mmmmmmmm…serpent seed…
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>>154641399
I don’t think so. The big issue people have with Vaggie is that she’s supposed to be better than the Exoricsts and out of their program, but then she acts like killing her exorcist sisters is outright romantic and a refreshment of her pleasures. So they look at Lute as someone to fix because they think she’ll do a better job at not squandering a reformed life.
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>>154644576
That's hella retarded
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>>154644764
Yes. But it’s the mentality of men thinking they can fix crazy chicks and women thinking they can fix bad boys.
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I am an arms dealer fitting you with
weapons in the form of words
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>>154641301
KYS you shitskinned nigger lovers
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>>154641399
Yes, the primordial humans are white, yes both women are blonde, yes Lute is hotter than Vaggie cause she's a pale goth problem cuck?
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>>154646812
Lmao
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>>154643053
According to the lard in charge its because it looks cool
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>>154646812
Lute is hotter than Vaggie because she doesn't have that fucked up looking nose.
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The first soft boy.
As in the first baby boy born.
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>>154647007
There are many shots where Vaggie is attractive. But her face proportions are always as jank as Adam’s and Abel’s bodies.
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>>154647014
Still find it weird they decided to make Abel the eldest. Judging by how he acts you'd think he'd be the little brother and Cain would be older.
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>>154647025
Again that nose is beyond fucked and whenever she makes a weird face she looks like ass. Viv sabotaged her.
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>>154647037
That came from a Collider article, which is not canon and has not been confirmed by Viv
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>>154647037
In the Bible, Cain was called out by Eve because he was the first man God given to her.
Hazbin Abel is first one to die, being a clear and obvious first winner, and the title of honor of being the first human soul in heaven was given to Adam instead.

My guess is that Abel was heavily abused and neglected by Eve and his siblings because of what he is. And it massively stunted him.
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>>154647076
No. There is an Abel t-shirt that titles him as “The first soft boy”. That’s what we’re talking about.
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>>154647041
It isn’t actually her nose. Most of the time it was her eyes and dreadful hair style that made her look so ugly.
She looks so much better with smaller eyes and the hair style she gotten in season 2.
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>>154647166
Brother do you know what soft boy means in slang?
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>>154647191
FTM
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>>154647233
Don't give those trannies any ammo
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>>154647191
A wolf in sheep’s clothing
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>>154647191
Could just mean he was a soft baby bitch boy while his brother Cain was a complete Gigachad. Said shirt might not be indicative of the order.
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>>154647290
>>154647152
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154647353
If Cain was a manly chad he wouldn’t ever have killed Abel for succeeding better than him.
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>>154647369
Headcanon. Unless you seen the later seasons you don't know what happened.
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>>154647233
lol
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>>154647388
Abel’s halo knows.
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>>154646812
Heaven really wanted to give Adam a Blonde White wife. Kinda based NGL.
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>>154647416
So you actually don't know shit and are just spamming your autistic fanfic. Nice one retard.
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>>154647434
Why are you simping for a character that doesn’t even appears on screen and is the source of Abel’s trauma?
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>>154647424
The third times a charm.
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>>154647471
Pretty sure it's just second times the charm in this case.
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>>154647461
Because it's Viv and she can do whatever she wants. Unlike you I'm aware I'm just speculating here and don't believe my ideas are fact. You peddle you shit like it's gospel and not pure headcanon. You are on the same level as retards that say Adam raped Vaggie.
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You know what else was kino, the Bugcuck vs Succgen (That's succubus general for you) storyline down on /x/ nig used to give us screenshots of his escapades
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>>154647553
Did he seriously spaz out from that?
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>>154647507
Viv elaborately has shown us that every sinner in Hell deserves to be there. Why would Cain be different and actually be this giga chad when he could just be a cowardly loser like Vox, Val, Alastor, and the other chumps down there?
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>>154647515
That’s bizarre. She would want tons of Adam juniors.
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>>154647571
One of those succ members came in to astral project visions and wonders. Describing Voxxy as this mommy figure.
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>>154647571
idk but it was peak schizo vs schizo kino, one of the succgen users even came down to /hhg/ for a time, an unironic lilith worshipper
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>>154647622
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>>154647623
I wouldn’t describe it as schizo.
They are legit witches and sorcerers. They just use it for sex with demons.
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>>154647623
Imagine worshipping lilith lmao
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>>154647677
If you think that’s funny, ask how many people here have Jesus afterlife insurance.
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>>154647677
worshipping the earliest examples of a fanfic OC
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>>154647152
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154647388
You don't either. Either option is just as plausible
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>>154647721
I actually wonder if Lilith was a fallen angel.
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>>154647577
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154647577
For the same reason Lucifer in this cartoon is a good guy. Maybe not the best guy, but he means well all things considered. You fucking twat.
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>>154647750
I’m not even sure if he’s actually meant to be a good guy. Even for Lilith on the Lilith Eve path. He practically worships Roo without realizing it for the grand power she offers.
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>>154647768
Lilith isn't Eve you twat
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>>154647750
Lucifer is portrayed as an asshole though despite fandom hc, sure he's not evil but look at his scenes in s1 and s2 dude is a jerk
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>>154641269
It'd be nice if we got a flashback of Adam and Eve being slightly tentative about each other at first. Adam's just been betrayed by Lilith and is apprehensive about this new woman and Eve has awoken covered in blood, very confused. Then they get over it and something happens to bond. It would help the people who think Eve's his brainwashed indentured tradwife anyway.
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>>154647587
Exactly.
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>>154647623
>>154647677
>Lilith worshipper

Like Hazbin Lilith or real life mythology Lilith? Was he just a gooner jerking it to tall white woman or had weird demon sex fantasies?
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>>154647792
I'd be funny if as a troll, eve in that flashback is voiced by jessica vosk
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>>154647727
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154647806
real life lilith, he wasn't a hazbin fan, he was an /x/fag that followed bugcuck to /hhg/, probably the weird demon sex fantasies, dude probs died of an overdose
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>>154647809
i see Lilith voicing the Eden backstory herself to Charlie.
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>>154647792
Honestly I'd imagine newborn Eve was excited to meet another human while Adam was pretty weary from Lilith leaving. They probably did hit it off eventually.
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Eve's attributed coat of arms in medieval heraldry is a simple silver shield by the way
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>>154647809
That sounds less like a troll and more like confirmation.
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>>154647813
Sorry, admittedly I didn't read. I thought I was responding to Bugcuck. Mb mb
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>>154647832
The funny thing is if indeed we'll hear Eve talk in the Eden flashback and it's Jessica Vosk, people like Bugcuck will say exactly that, that's it's a red herring or they're trolling lmao
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>>154647834
What is wrong with you?
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>>154647843
I said SORRY, that ADMITTEDLY, I didn't READ... Do you want me to tell louder or what
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>>154647841
It would be because they given out huge Lilith Eve hints I struggle too hard to break.
But I would react with sadness over what Eve lost of herself and what Lute is, a failed imitation thrown to the toy box.
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>>154647841
Would flashback Eve have a more Valley girl accent? I know Jessica can do it.
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>>154647832
It's a troll if they do it before the explicit confirmation imagine the fandom arguments lol
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>>154647849
You have issues
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>>154647850
Nah. Lute is Eve. Jessica Vosk spoiled it. Hope this helps!
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>>154647855
Oh yeah. That's makes sense.
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>>154647855
I don’t think we’ll be getting voices for the characters in the backstory section. It wouldn’t match with the fairytale vibe it’s supposed to have in season 1 episode 1.
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>>154647850
>Bugcuck fanfiction Alert
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>>154647854
No. People got that misconception from the recording Jessica did. If you listen really carefully, the S2 episode is playing, where the crowd starts calling Vox a liar. She was playing a background character. The line didn't make it to the final cut though.
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>>154647857
For apologizing I was wrong and that I replied to the wrong person or?

Jesus dude. That's sad for you. Anyway.
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>>154647854
Even if she wasn't Lute I always imagined Eve to be a mean girl, queen bee, head cheerleader type given how Adam is portrayed, she ain't some dainty flower, his woman is a bitch with attitude, the queen of all cunts to his master of all dicks
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>>154647884
Eugh. Not the Lilith #2 design again. Kill it already.
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>>154647884
Do these artists not know any other hair color besides blonde or what? What's with the obsession into making her a Lilith clone
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>>154647894
Cope and seethe, Abel is blonde you're getting it anyway, besides unless you're face blind she's distinct enough from Lilith
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>>154647902
What, would you prefer her to be brown with nappy hair?
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My one weakness: Lute being Eve... But at the cost of her being a blonde. Goes from a white Karen to a White Karen with Albinism. Gnarly. Well played Viv.
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>>154647912
You just know she's gonna do it, though I have doubts she'll do the Eve story justice given how she botched the Adam story which similarly wrote itself
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>>154647909
Anything else other than some sickly blonde white bitch. Keep them saggy white tits bro. Whatever keeps your micropenis hard.
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>>154647921
Seethe nigger
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>>154647919
I'm coping. Please... I'm begging you.
But yeah. I legit wouldn't be surprised if she looks like Viv's cartoon self
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>>154647912
Yeah I definitely imagine Lute/Eve was initially a blonde.
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>>154647932
You're killing me here, man...
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>>154647927
I heavily suspect the ray of hope is gonna be voiced by viv herself
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>>154647944
I know but it's Viv she's probably gonna make her blonde because she's obsessed.
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>>154647912
From Lilith to Eve to lute.
Eve’s hair is straighter than Lilith’s hair and Lute’s hair is much straighter than Eve’s hair as a progression.
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>>154647957
The speaker is blonde.
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>>154647955
ah fuck
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>>154647955
Actually, now that I think about it, Good/Ray low-key does look like Viv did in Helluva Boss, with the wavy hair.
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>>154647974
BLONDE
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>>154647974
>>154647979
STOP IT, STOP IT, I'M MELTING
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>>154647978
You know her hack ass is gonna be like "haha get it, I'm the equivalent of god in the hellaverse because I'm the creator teehee" and think she's oh so clever for it
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>>154647978
I wonder if Lute’s appearance is supposed to show how far off she is from Lilith and Eve in resembling the image of God.
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>>154647986
ITS BLONDE WOMEN ALL THE WAY UP.
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>>154647988
Why do I recall hearing her saying something like this. Or am I just retarded
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Lute finally turns Blonde
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>>154647989
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154647997
IM ALREADY DEAD PLEASE STOPPP I CAN'T DO THIS, MAN
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Season 4 is gold because it’s when Lute’s wings and hair turns blonde.
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>>154648002
EVEN MORE BLONDES. IF CAIN SHOWS UP HE'S GONNA BE BLONDE LIKE HIS MOM.
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>>154647989
Right so anyway, Lute is Eve: Jessica Voska accidentally spoiled it. Hope this helps!
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>>154648009
Even Lute’s wings will turn blonde.
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>>154648014
And Adam will be back alive and his first line of dialogue will be " Where the blonde women at?"
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>>154648019
He’s going to be a black man instead to provide representation.
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Lute turning blonde / her Eve self will be like Pearl in season 1 versus Pearl in season 2. She got a shade darker (more cream colored) from being straight #fff white
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>>154648032
He's spirituality a black man. Despite that he's trapped in white man's body.
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>>154648039
He’s going to be black to parallel him with Alastor.
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>>154648045
Only a true black man could kill another. It's makes perfect sense now.
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>>154648052
Cain will also invent racism and Alastor will hate him for it.
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>>154648055
Maybe. I do think Cain got the spiritually black genes and that's why Abel is trying to compensate for his lack of hood genes by getting together with Emily.
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>>154648077
Nah. Abel just wants to fuck seraphims as his natural instinct.
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Now that you nigs mention it, did you in mormonism they think black skin is the mark of cain and black people are descendants of him and cursed by default?
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>>154648077
Cain will be so black he’ll be a jazz musician.
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>>154648091
Some sects do genuinely believe that.
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>>154648091
Never was a Mormon who got with girls under sulking. But that might actually be lore relevant in Hazbin Hotel, like Arch Angel Adam was.
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>>154648085
Nah. He's definitely just going for that chocolate. Not just any seraphim can satisfy him. He's want to have double mixed children.
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>>154648113
He is chocolate in disguise.
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>>154648120
Nah. Abel ain't got that negro dog in him unlike his dad and brother.
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>The mark of Cain is blackness from Cain killing a dark grey skinned Abel. A curse to enforce racism to Cain and his descendants.
It sounds so retarded I hope it becomes canon.
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>>154648124
His dad has to wear a costume to get it.
Abel is covering up his chocolate just to feel more connected with his human white dad.
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>>154648134
Abel is white. Cain killed him by changeling negro energies.
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>Cain is redeemed
>He is white again
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>>154648137
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154648140
Anon. We have to go Viv brained to predict the plot.
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>>154648148
Ok. Everybody becomes blonde in the end.
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>>154648148
>Bugcuck Alert
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Carmilla Carmine is one of the dumbest, most cowardly and spineless pieces of shit I've ever seen. why the fuck did she ever think that building a giant fucking Lucifer-powered laser gun was a good idea at all, let alone building it for fucking Vox of all people.
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>>154648257
Latinos are really dumb in this show. It's kind of pattern at this point.
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>>154648257
Money? Idk I didn't even watch the second season. This show is garbage.
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>>154648257
She's on a feud with Sera on who can be the most self righteous hypocrite, except she probably has her beat. Absolute redundant waste of space character, I hate the glaze she gets in the fandom
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>>154648257
her ass fat doe
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>>154648392
Only thing good about her is that she inspires an urge in me to dominate and enslave her that no other character in this franchise has
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>>154648257
The fact that they made Vox look guilty for going for a very stereotypical Latino look and then made him back off for it, but then they went ahead and gave Carmilla the same musical sting every time she appears is funny as fuck.

Like, pick a lane sister.
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>>154648431
Didn't Vox also say that he couldn't understand Val's "island language". Only for us to find out Val is from Florida ( like most degenerate Latinos).
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those fuck me eyes though
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>>154648558
We needed more time with them hanging out in Heaven.
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>>154648558
She gave him the same exact look in the garden.
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I need Lute to be Eve because it's the most romantic shit ever and I'm an unapologetic sap and sucker
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>>154649148
I need Lute to be Eve because it will piss off Lute larpers which are the most obnoxious fuckers in existence.
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>>154649188
That would be awesome too, Lute deserves better
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>>154649188
Unironically would be one of the best twist ever
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The closest thing the one that was once known as Adamschizo to adapting his fic idea was the time he did comic concept art for his male vaggie au which iirc vaggie in that verse wasn't cast out but defected and Adam and Lute and the exorcists are still looking for him as he hides out in hell, yes Chaggie still happens.
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WAKE UP
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>>154650081
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>154650081
>>154650191
Shut up I'm going to sleep!
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>>154650191
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>>154648055
>Cain will also invent racism and Alastor will hate him for it.
Pff, Alastor is the guy who became whiter when he died, as he became a slave. Very ironic of Hell.
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>>154649148
It'll make Guitarspear more romantic and Flowertunes significantly more romantic. If Eve isn't Lute there's nothing they can do with Eve to make her more romantic than sticking by Adam while he died (plus the implication that she never betrayed and left him after all). They're going to have to work very hard to make me invested in Eve's relationship with Adam if she's a different person from Lute.
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>>154651188
Lute already feels a lot of Eve's thematic roles anyway. Introducing Eve at this stage of the show would be abrupt and narratively speaking, we wouldn't really get much closure regarding her and Adam's relationship since he's already dead. We wouldn't get authentic input (I assume we're going to get comments from the Adam hallucination on whatever unfolds from here on out) - If she's meant to be as bloodthirsty and vengeful as the leaks suggested, again, Lute is literally already doing that, and it would be a repeat of what she's doing.

Lute is just Eve.
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Even the name Flowertunes is head anon because there's no indication whatsoever that Hazbin's Eve is associated with flowers.
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>>154651418
I think that's just a generalization because... Eve... Garden.... Therefore, flowers? Or something. You could easily attribute her to apples, the snake, the rib.... Also, I think they chose flowers because... According to the fandom, Eve is meek / cute / girly.
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>>154651418
She could also be associated with bones, blood. Oh, hi Lute, who's hair and skin color is bone white, and was covered in red blood in season1, nice to meet you.
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>>154651467
Or even with silver and red. >>154647830
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Someone more Savvy and this sort of thing can educate me but... Eve's "colors", meaning what we have seen thus far, is black, gray, red. If anything, her attributing factor would be red or the Apple, possibly blood. Who knows. But definitely something red, which is what a lot of people used to relate her to Roo. But then we are introduced to Lute, Who has that red bright splotch of blood as one of her main design elements. Oh, and her whole color template is monochrome/ black/ gray.

Like...
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>>154647830
For those unfamiliar with heraldry this basically means that Adam's colour is red, Eve's colour is silver and the family's arms are a small silver shield within a larger red one. I have no idea if Viv or anyone else at Spindle would know this but it's cool.
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>>154651611
Funny how all the Exorcists are silver/ gray/b&w/monochrome.... Lol
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>>154648558
lute's neutral relaxed expression with adam, when he isn't even looking at her, is a chill smile. why the fuck does anyone even bother trying to deny that she genuinely enjoys his company?
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>>154651676
Because m-muh powerful w-omyn wouldn't actually like some sexist man child r-right??? She clearly wants to scissor the traitor and she was GROOMED to hating that she herself is a lesbian, r-right???!??!!??
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Silver girl...
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It's funny how much Eve fanon isn't based on any hints from the show but instead regurgitated pop culture Eves from other sources.
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>>154651943
What other Eves are there? I actually can't think of many. Usually if she's ever portrayed in any sort of way, it's in a mythological, representative type of way, and It's always while taking the apple. The fandom can't get more creative than that. They can't fathom that, much like Adam, she doesn't have to be that one-dimensional surface level character in Eden. They either want her soft and sweet like she was in the garden, presumably, or they want her at the complete deep end, and have her be Lilith number two. Which, like it's been said, Lute is already bloodthirsty and on a warpath. Sam haft said that she is bloodthirsty in a way that we have not seen before in a villain, and gravity is supposed to make us scared for what's coming next. Lmao it's so funny how blatantly she's Eve and people don't see it
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>>154651977
Or how they want her to have this tender relationship with Abel, but Adam gets a pass and their relationship is allowed to be rocky. People really don't want to take Eve out of that cookie cutter
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>Adam and Eve never worked and should have divorced
Trite and overplayed
>Adam and Eve love each other but they don't love us
Frightening
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>>154652010
Peak, actually
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Do you see Lute-Eve being redeemed to some degree or at least finding something to love about humanity, /co/?
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>>154652095
Well, if we're going by the outline of the old leaks, Charlie forgives her. So I personally believe she'll probably go through a Vegeta type of redemption. Maybe patch up her relationship with Abel and Heaven?
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>>154652010
>adam only eats the apple because eve was going to be exiled alone and eden wouldn't be paradise without her
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
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It's just occurred to me that Sinners rally around Lilith and not Lucifer because Lilith is human and Lucifer is just another eldritch bureaucrat.
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>>154652156
You just got that now?
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>>154652166
Yes. I'm a retarded retard.
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>>154651706
Lute being Eve and taking Adam dick while having loads of children with the guy will mindbreak theses larpers.
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>>154652010
>they don't love us

More like they have exaggerated parents standards. Them considering you trash if you end up in hell. Basically you're only their "kid" if you're a winner. Kinda makes a lot of sense when you consider how Viv is obsessed with mommy and daddy issues.
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>>154652234
Viv has mommy issues for sure. So her acting the way she does with Abel is pretty on the brand of that.
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>>154647902
>>154647894
I love how blonde Eve is such a let down for the fandom that people would sooner entertain blond Abel as the result of being the child of Lucifer or Lilith.
>But she would be a Lilith clone!
Newsflash, that's what Viv is going for in the design. Eve is the replacement for Lilith. It would make sense for Eve to have dark hair because she came from Adam but in Viv's mind, because Lilith was blonde and she ran off, Eve was made to look like her as a consolation. Abel being blond is the confirmation, anything else is cope.
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>>154651607
It's pretty obvious all things considered honestly.
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>>154652263
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154652263
>Eve was made to look like her as a consolation.
Headcanon, or cite your sources. No the card or flashback aren't Eve.
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>>154652276
I love the concept of brunette Eve. But this Viv, a woman that has too many white characters with blonde hair. You can call me Matpat if your feelings get hurt but Abel is blond and that didn't come from nowhere
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>>154652263
>people would sooner entertain blond Abel as the result of being the child of Lucifer or Lilith.

Who here in this thread has ever said that? Only you, Bugcuck, want to believe serpent seed. In other religious beliefs/faiths, it's been said that Adam and Eve have recessive genes for all features, which is a given being that they are the parent of humanity. It's not a stretch of the imagination to have both parents be brunette and their kids blonde, red head, etc. There's also paintings depicting this.

I just don't want her to be blonde. Personal preference. That's all.
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>>154652289
>Source?? Source?? I need a source here
The source: Abel. Case closed, you people can't be in denial that Eve is blonde in this universe, right?
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>>154652298
I'm not disputing blonde Eve. It was said by a former employee that all the Eden humans are essentially Caucasian white. Yeah, it's Viv. Lute Is going to be a white-haired Karen who turned into a white-haired Karen with albinism. I just prefer black haired or brunette. But most likely, yeah, she's going to be a blonde. What of it.
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>>154652320
>No source
Got it, thanks!
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>>154652320
She most likely will be blonde, yes, but it's not impossible for her to be a brunette or have black hair. Neither of which negate that Lute is Eve.
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What I love about the theory that she was meant to look like Lilith after Lilith left, either because Adam requested it or because the Ang assumed he wanted a Lilith clone, it still doesn't negate Lute being Eve. She has the little cowlick that Lilith does, and if you give her long hair, she looks like a Minnie Lilith. Now give her blonde or black hair: there's your Eve. A shrimpy mini rib wife vaguely modeled after the first woman lmao the off brand basically
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>>154652378
Oh 100%.
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>>154652322
If you were the person I was replying to originally, I get you have a preference. I did too, I was convinced that Abel would be dark haired. The leaks weren't colored and everyone that made art at the time made him brunette. As soon as the reveal happened on Christmas, I was let down that it gave away the hair color of his mother too. If you're not the person who made those posts, then those anons are having a very negative response to what is obvious.
>>154652336
>>154652350
Are you people this insecure about Lute is Eve theory that you guys are throwing melties at random anons talking about her hair color? I didn't say anything about Lute, this is about Eve's hair. If you're denying Eve is a blonde after Abel got revealed, then you people aren't being serious
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>>154652378
I love this too, something about it is so fucking cute.
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>>154652378
It's the whole reason humanity isn't as tall as Adam! Mommy is small!
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>>154652414
>If you're not the person who made those posts, then those anons are having a very negative response to what is obvious.
That's still your headcanon. People took it as fact that because Adam is a brunette, Abel was going to be a brunette. Clearly that wasn't the case. Also, it's just a cartoon. It's not a big deal. Preferences are preferences. Who cares if it's a "negative" reaction.

>If you're denying Eve is a blonde after Abel got revealed, then you people aren't being serious
It's not that deep dude. It doesn't matter if she's blonde, brunette, black haired, a ginger... That doesn't refute any theories. You're getting up in arms about people preferring an Eve that's not blonde when it doesn't even significantly affect anything. It doesn't affect any theory whatsoever. Who cares. You seem bothered that people prefer anything else other than a blonde Eve.
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Lute was probably just blonde while she was alive as Eve. Its Viv . It's blondes all the way up. You can literally see Viv acting smug because we will see Lute regaining her original hair colour be this big Eve reveal because she probably thinks that shit is the bomb.
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>>154652481
It's giving Pearl with the white skin in season 1 of Steven Universe, versus the final season, where she had a slight cream tinge. There's the Eve -> Lute design lmao
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>>154652447
I wonder if Adam actually had kids with Lilith would humanity be taller?
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They let little Emily make Eve because she wanted to help the big seraphim so bad
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>>154652494
Nah man. Viv is gonna go overboard with the white blonde woman thing. It's kinda her obsession at this point.
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>>154652511
Wait, what if it was young Sera who wanted to help the Speaker? And now she feels like she owes Lute some extra patience.
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>>154652525
No yeah, that's what I mean. If you look at Pearl's design in season 1, she's a stark white creature, and then they give her a slight creamy tinge to her skin color. Later. Later. That's going to be Viv's idea of a design reveal: just a Hue or two darker for Lute/Eve's skin color, and then Abel's hazel eyes/blonde hair lol
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>>154652511
I don't think Emily was around during that time. It would make her too old for how she acts.
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>>154652453
Adam isn’t brunette. He’s dark blonde.
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>>154652538
Sera seemed kinda big in the shadow puppet book thing. Maybe she was more inexperienced and awkward but full-grown. Would be funny watching a more shy unsure Sera fumble around.
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Adam must've had some serious cute aggression when he saw Eve for the first time. So tiny.
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>>154652575
That probably wasn’t Sera
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>>154652578
Eve was made tiny for ease of use during sex. Pick her up and go to town.
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>>154652587
You are not this stupid.
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>>154652378
Lute’s hair doesn’t really look like Eve’s at all.
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>>154652453
I'm not up in arms, the schizos here are very sensitive and rabid about their headcanons over Lute is Eve that you guys pounce on a singular anon's post that had nothing to do with that. I wasn't out to try to disprove your precious theory, I never once brought up Lute's name, but the insufferable Chihuahua dogpiling from the 3(?) of you makes this thread a bore. All of you and Matpat getting permabanned would be 0 loss because all this mindless schizophrenia from you people is the same to me
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>>154652604
So there's this amazing thing called a hairstyle change. Not only that, it's possible that they just drew in Lilith twice, To convey the idea that Lucifer and Lilith are twisting the narrative in their favor. Not hard. Also, Jessica already spoiled it on Twitter before deleting it. She's Eve lol
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>>154652606
Ok. You seem very aggro about people not liking Eve being blonde. Maybe chill out a little.
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>>154652590
>the angels make eve smaller so adam can have his way with her with less resistance
>they are impressed when he is surprisingly gentle with her
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>>154652609
Lilith has already been proven to be not trustworthy, especially with what's been said about her, and even what Vox has said about her.. Yeah I could see her pulling some shit like this. Did Eve even want the fruit
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>>154652609
I don’t care. Lute’s hair texture is so straight she can easily do hime anime hair cuts without any hair products. And realistically that would be how her hair would’ve originally looked like longer.
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>>154652660
.... Eve's hair is straight you worthless piss stain. 'I don't care' - Nobody gives a fuck about what you do or do not care about.
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>>154652606
I think they’re more deranged than me, honestly. They have to go up to the Eden book and disregard Eve’s appearance in it because it goes against their Lute Eve train really hard just because she doesn’t look like that.
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>>154652645
I think Eve supposedly gladly taking the fruit is Charlie's assumption. Given that she was told that Adam was always demanding (which she verifies for herself when she meets him) she probably just figured that Eve wanted out as much as Lilith did
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>>154652718
Aren't you the guy that thinks Zestial is Cain? Or that Abel is a bloodthirsty maniac? you're the last person that should comment on this sort of thing
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>>154652706
Like Lilith, Eve’s hair is curlier and softer than Lute’s.
Lute’s hair is very straight and angular.
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>>154652741
>Eve's hair is curly
LMAO
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>>154652741
... And you guys were hounding the other person about not matching the storybook? This dude is saying Eve's hair is ""curlier"" rofl
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so which vee is getting redeemed first? velvette with her date rape drugs but for some reason the fandom treats her as the 'best' vee? valentino with his abuse spider and abusive porn empire? or vox, with a genuine 'trust me' or even a 'i trust you'?
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>>154652799
Vox because he's Viv's current obsession.
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>>154652799
Vox. His redemption, or at least his attempt for redemption, is foreshadowed when he pointedly asks Charlie if he can be redeemed. Seems pretty obvious. Whether he'll be successful or not is a different question
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>>154652660
>Criticizes someone for not thinking Eve is blonde
>Says Eve has curly hair
??????
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>>154652298
>You can call me Matpat if your feelings get hurt
Literally nobody has done that in a while. Nobody has even used that specific name recently. Sus that you bring his name up. But sure "anon".
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>>154652854
Just ignore him. When he goes through a dry spell, he tries to stir up his own little supporters who happen to agree with his major points, which are bullshit. Kind of a dead giveaway.
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>>154652799
I don't think any of them will be you successfully redeemed. They might try it with the Vox though
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Just read a long comic about Vox raping Alastor (played for drama) and I'm disappointed how engrossed I was in it.
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>>154652736
>Don’t you believe zestial is Cain, a character that has no on screen appearance and only Bible lore to go with, because you think Zestial is the best possible suspect that’s cursed to resemble the Abel he hates so much.
>Don’t you think Abel doesn’t have good intentions in being a head exorcist, a job about killing sinners, when he took this job under the nose when his dad died. And he for some reason looks up to the Lute screaming about killing people.
Yes. It’s normal and boring, and doesn’t have massive obstacles like the Lilith-Eve moments in the show and merch. Instead we had moment in which a zestial card, an Abel card depicting a rainbow (imagery tied to exterminations in season 1 and the flood referenced in Gravity), and a hidden Adam card were showcased at once. And Abel and Zestial are making similar poses in their cards themed to destruction. Merch of Abel surrounded by black clouds.

He’s not some Disney villain and Lute also isn’t one either. But Viv will be retarded enough to make them that way just to make Charlie and Vaggie look better than them, just like she did with Stella to make Stolas look good.
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>>154652967
Shame. Shame. Shame.
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>>154652973
Not reading all of that, thx. Oh, and of course, mandatory:

>Bugcuck Alert
>Bugcuck Alert
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154652973
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154652976
Please forgive me. I'm a good Adam fan. I'll go back to talking about Eden stuff, promise.
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>>154652986
I'm genuinely tired of him being a retard at this point. Doesn't he have other generals to shit up with his autism?
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>>154652973
Ain’t reading all that shite. Free Palestine.
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I like how Bugcuck tried to reignite "matpat" name to get a semblance of dignity again.
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>>154653009
Apparently they called him Kikerat while he was posting in the trash thread.
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>>154653017
It's not gonna work. He's gonna be known as Bugcuck or Kikerat forever. A fitting punishment for his arrogance and disrespect towards God.
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>>154653026
>Matpat
>Kikerat
>Bugcuck
I feel like we can do so much better at a truly humiliating name
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>>154653046

Nah Bugcuck is good
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>>154653059
Cuckbug sounds better
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>>154652645
>>154652720

I really hope it’s not just a typical subversion where Lilith’s the straight up bad guy, cuz even that’s passé by now.

Charlie might have the actions and meaning right but lost the nuances. Eve might have taken it because she wanted to be a better helper - which is what she was made to be for Adam. Lucifer and Lilith may have indeed thought they were doing the right thing (if Eve was made to be more compliant and obedient then Lucifer might have feared what that’d mean for her descendants), but there might have simultaneously been more selfish reasons, too. Maybe Lilith both thought she was doing Eve a favour, but also wanted to prove a point: that Eve would leave the moment she got free will. That she (Lilith) wasn’t the problem.
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>>154653063
I personally like the whole Lilith being straight up Evil route, but I'm very convinced it's going to play out exactly the way you outlined it here
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>>154653044
Truthfully, your actions against me has been disrespectful to God himself. And has the root of purely demonic behaviors.
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>>154652538
That’s my headcanon. That sera created Eve out of Adam’s bone to try and avoid what happened with Lilith. Problem is she kinda did it too well.

As Lucifer might put it, she was a blank, smiling robot.
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>>154653111
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154653063
I don't know, there's a few nuances here. Well yes, Lilith is painted as arguably a bad guy so far based on what everyone has said, nobody refutes that, however, nobody also refused Charlie when she says that she wanted to do good, that there was no blood, etc etc. So I think the narrative itself is painting Lilith as a hero, versus a straight up bad person. So in this case, the subversion would be, in fact, that she is indeed a really selfish person.
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>>154653026
> Apparently they called him Kikerat while he was posting in the trash thread.

Well that’s just not on. Cmon, no need for that.
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>>154652967
eh, while I am not endorsing rape, I got zero sympathy for a cannibal serial killer.
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>>154653181
"No need" Excuse you. All the need.
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>>154653181
We gotta use it.
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>>154653166
It can be a mix of both, no? Lilith, in all likelihood, has more self awareness than Lucifer in that she knows and accepts that the two of them did far more harm than good. Not knowing how to fix it, she’s just decided to run away.
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>>154653215
As the Bug, I don’t understand why anyone tries to add nuance to these evil sociopaths at all and doesn’t bother doing that with Abel and Emily. Do you just connect with them better or something?
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>>154653243
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154653299
What exactly happened?
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>>154653117
>As Lucifer might put it, she was a blank, smiling robot

Yeah I hope it's not actually that and Lucifer plus Lilith were being judgemental idiots that couldn't comprehend Eve had free will and was staying with Adam by her own choice. The apple being just a complete fuck up because it just unleashed evil without any benefit is better because it means those two actually fucked up and need to accept responsibility before they can be redeemed.
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Not only is this a well done sketch, but Lute!Eve’s expression is golden; she’s the first mother and so she’s looking at this thing she bore with a kind of stunned fascination because she has no precedent to go on.

She and Adam sadly had no idea what they were doing.
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>>154653117
>>154653367
Maybe Eve wants to be a blank smiling robot again.
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>>154653402
She can never go back.
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>>154653419
We don’t know that. Lute and the Exorcists are themed to dolls that are entirely of this nature.
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>>154653402
>>154653419

And that’s the problem. Lute!Eve’s plans all end with her dying, too. She’s taking them all down with her.

We’re so used to her always full of anger. I wonder, when she makes her move, she might even start acting calm. Serene even with the knowledge that her plans are underway and she’ll meet her fate with her enemies.

That’ll be genuinely unnerving.
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>>154653402
>>154653419
Nah. Let it just be the Morningstars being morons.
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>>154653383
How is babby formed
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I wanna see Lilith fucking drop Val in the street when she learns he one) tried to recruit Charlie into porn, and 2) licked her.
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>>154653486
No. She’ll praise him for it.
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>>154653460
>lute decides heaven is obviously corrupt and must be purged of hell sympathisers
>something something somehow she succeeds
>the flood that threatens hell is angelic blood which acts like acid for sinners and hellspawn alike
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>>154653496
>Now that's a real man Charlie. Remember never settle for less.
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>>154653503
That would be pure metal peak but Viv is too lame to do that.
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>>154653503
I see Abel coming up with the idea just from him never connecting at all with winners and angels in the first place.
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>>154653475
SEX
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>>154653486
> Lilith, when she finds out.
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>>154653521
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154653521
Silence, Bugcuck.
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Anybody notice how whenever people speculate Lute/Eve will do something epic for her revenge Bugcuck chimes in that Abel( the fat fuck that shits his pants at the slightest conflict) would actually do that. Is he so misogynistic that he literally needs Abel to steal his mom's thunder? I wanna see his reaction when Abel will be eventually relegated to Lute/Eve pathetic little sidekick that tags along being worthless while she wrecks shop.
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>>154653526
Sex makes babys?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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>>154653609
Without Lute, Abel can’t do anything. And without Abel, Lute can’t do anything.
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>>154653609
Abel's character is not set up to be super complicated. Not that he's not a complex character, but the way Bug describes him is extremely off base. Everything that Lute/Eve does, he wants Abel to do. I think we'll get some of his emotions regarding his father, how he feels about his mom, their life on Earth, how that shaped him to be how he is now, but he's definitely not giving bad diora. If he's going to have an epic moment, it's going to help in stopping Lute/Eve from enacting her revenge. Kind of what he did already become a bit on a bigger scale. It's extremely telling that he has heard her entire plan / motivations in Gravity, but he has not reported her. So we know he's definitely aware, and everyone has seen it firsthand. It's also very telling that during a segment where he is reaching out to his father for guidance and inspiration, puts himself down in favor of his murderous brother, (we presume anyway) he also looks to her for guidance, that he wants to be like her in some capacity which is... Very telling because as far as we the audience know, Abel only knows her as his father's second in command. Why would he care about some random soldier. It's because it's his mom
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>>154653486
>>154653496
>>154653505
>charlie gets kidnapped and wakes up on valentino's bed. she's nude
>lilith is there, standing behind a camera while valentino smiles
>'mom, what's going on?'
>'if you want to succeed me someday, you'll need to know how to keep the overlords on your side. for valentino, this means exclusive footage. spread 'em.'
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>>154653692
*Bad guy aura - not diora lol
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>>154653692
I feel like Abel is set up to where he's actually aware that not only is that his mom, but besides of that, he knows in part her struggles. Lute is actually projecting onto anything that's deemed weak. 100% calling it now, Eve was like that. So he gets her plight,
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>>154653723
Like, she was like him maybe, and she was able to change herself drastically into this confident bloodthirsty being. It's like looking at himself in some alternate reality almost. She was able to do it but he can't and apparently maybe part of him wishes he could do something like that but he simply not like that. That's more into speculation territory. What we do know from the song is that he wants to be like Lute
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>>154653692
>Abel cares about Lute because he somehow knows she’s Eve
Why the fuck does everything about Lute Eve hinges on this bullshit? It’s the trope of whatever they write.
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>>154653768
It doesn't. Chill out, first of all. That's speculation. Just as much as The Exorcist girls being clones of Lute. I personally dig it, but no, it can actually be either way: he could or could not know. I, myself, personally, just see it that way.
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>>154653768
It doesn't. I can tell that you hate the theory purely for the sake of hating it because you actually think the theory depends on Abel knowing. It doesn't. It just gets mentioned because there is definitely implication that there's something going on with them. That's how we get some of the Abel/Lute shippers
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>>154653662
Yes. Ask Adam he knows.
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>>154653768
Motherfucker shut up, you think Abel was looking at his hands after she sang Gravity, because something something about the blood, something something he has blood staining his hands. Someone even broke it down to you, and you weren't even looking at the screenshot correctly. You're retarded.
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>>154653672
Objectively incorrect. Lute was fighting Vaggie while Abel was shitting his pants like a pussy. You can't accept Lute doesn't need Abel expect as a nepo baby that gives the ok. Cope harder Bugcuck .
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>>154653672
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154653782
It’s completely insufferable writing. At that point Lute is pointless because no one cares about the Lute personality at all to take her seriously or respect her.
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>>154653850
Her personality and arc is why we love her.
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>>154653850
>At that point Lute is pointless because no one cares about the Lute personality at all to take her seriously or respect her

Replace the Lute with Eve and it's the exact same thing. That's literally the point. Nobody respects her. That's what Viv is going for with Eve. It's not rocket science.
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>>154653795
No. I hate it because it’s like this
>”I saw you cry over Adam dying really hard. I don’t care.”
>”You’re Eve? Now it matters!”
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>>154653850
Nope! It's why YOU don't take her seriously or respect her. That's a you problem.
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>>154653850
And you're not paying attention to the themes of the show and what Viv has said. That's literally the fucking point you goddamn imbecile. Nobody listens to Eve. Nobody cares about Eve. Nobody respects Eve. The Adam and Eve story is going to be seen through a female gaze/critical lens. Her entire point is that she's a pathetic welp that nobody respects or pays attention to. Viv literally said that. The only person who did care and respect Eve was Adam.
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>>154653875
I do take her seriously. I don’t think she needs any retarded secret identity to matter to Abel and Adam. You do.
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>>154653904
You think Zestial is Caine and that Abel is bloodthirsty. Your opinions are moot and worthless by default.
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>>154653904
>I do take her seriously
>Thinks Lute's grand character arc will end up being that she is renamed Eve, and she is a bug.
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>>154653939
Yeah that about sums it up.
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>>154653939
You're forgetting relegating her to a sidekick while Abel takes the spotlight and does all the important shit. Bugcuck such an idiot.
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>>154653974
It's the fact that he wants her to be named after Eve that gets me. So in his bitching about her just literally being that Eve, he wants her to assume the identity of a dead woman who, according to him, is evil incarnate. But yeah sure. Her just being straight up Eve is demeaning and disrespectful to her identity.
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>>154654007
He's a retarded misogynist. Like I wouldn't have an issue if he just hated women and that's it but he has to have to most idiotic ideas possible.
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>>154653939
Yes. It is an arc for a Lute that never birthed Abel and only connected with him when he became the Head Exorcist to care about him and relook on her life. It is an arc for Adam to get over Eve and accept Lute in her ugliest form. It is an arc for Lute to don responsibilities of motherhood when she used to an isolated woman that was a terror to the exorcists.
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>>154654031
Not reading that.
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154654031
>Bugcuck Alert

Can't believe how hard Viv's writing moggs you Bugcuck. You really suck.
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Can't wait to see how Bug will spaz out once we get the Lute Eve reveal. And the Lute larpers for that matter
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>>154653486
>Charlie is calling Lilith again after a week of silence
>Because she is bored, she answers it
>"MOM, I NEED HELP, I just escaped Valentino's sex dungeon but he is about to find me!"
>Bemused "Sorry honey, connection is bad, I can't hear you. I am sure your dad can help you if he isn't fucking his ducks, see you later"
>"MOM WAI-" the voice cuts out as Lilith powers down the phone to go back to sunbathing
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>>154654065
Honestly I'm excited for both to eat shit. Literally saw some larpers say that in S3 Lute will stop obsessing over Adam and will overcome his "manipulation". I'm genuinely curious if these fucks skipped Gravity ( weird since it's the best song of S2 for me).
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>>154654058
This has to be the only subset of the hazbin fandom that glazes Viv's writing.
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>>154653974
I’m legitimately the only one that’s been preaching for Abel and Lute to be this duo of grand destruction. And about them having these scary monster forms that makes them threats to Charlie and Lucifer, that are at the cost of their human appearances.
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>>154654070
You guys think Lucifer has a duck themed fleshlight? Like he uses that thing to goon.
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>>154654094
I can count on one hand how many genuine Lute fans I've come across. The figure they have in their minds is off base too what's in the actual show. The Stella fans are just as hysterical, but at least they acknowledge how she acts, they are at the very least not delusional to think that she's actually super nice behind closed doors or something. The Lute larpers are on a whole different level of delusion.
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>>154654094
>>154654065
I have to ask. Why expect this when the trading card and show has Lilith taking on features she doesn’t have that are present on Charlie, the kid she supposedly birthed, and Eden book Eve?
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>>154654100
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154654100
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154653870
Though... to be fair, and quite ironically, her present-day 'DELIGHTFUL' personality and self-indulgent grandstanding are probably part of the reasons people don't respect her.
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>>154654121
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154654132
Probably. Then again it's Viv so she probably expects Eve to still be respected despite acting this way.
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>>154654127
You can’t deny it.
Only you people go about who is the sidekick loser and who isn’t. When I look at them as each other’s lifeblood in even getting a single extermination started. For Lute to be more relevant in strength and presence than she was when Adam was around, and Abel experiencing the same thing.
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>>154654121
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154654150
Hey so, Lute is Eve. Jessica accidentally spoiled it on Twitter. Hope this helps!
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>>154654112
100%, multiple ones.
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>>154654150
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154654150
Nice cope Bugcuck.
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>>154654191
What does Lute do for Adam in season 1 and what does Abel need from Lute and vice-versa for them to be as capable or more successful than Adam?
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>>154654214
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154654065
Oh yeah absolutely. Look at how he's acting now. The larpers will also have their fit. At least it'll weed them out of the fandom though.
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>>154654226
The pride you have is amusing when you can’t even defeat canon art to justify your theory.
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Lucifer did not regret giving the apple or ruining Adam/Eve's lives (meaning, he probably thought he was generally better that they get their eyes open to the real world versus living like dolls,) but he regrets/disapproves of the punishment given to him.
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>>154654250
Many people have. They've been nice about it, they've broken it down for you, they've been mean to you, it's pretty obvious. But you insist on keeping to your delusions so there's no point in taking you serious. You have extremely poor media literacy. Maybe take a class or something. Anyway. Jessica already spoiled it. Can't wait to see it!
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>>154654253
>(meaning, he probably thought he was generally better that they get their eyes open to the real world versus living like dolls,)
Considering the whole Lilith/Adam dispute and Lilith/Lucifer came before Apple, they are 100% coping
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>>154654250
Silence, Bugcuck.
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Oh my god stop talking to him, he's disabled and will never get it. Hide his posts and you won't see them. Easy
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>>154654269
Lilith and Lucifer are coping you mean?
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>>154654277
Talk about something else then. Someone asked about Vox earlier, people responded, but they didn't respond back.
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>>154654290
Yep.
>>154654302
nta but you don't have to respond to people you know? You two are feeding each other. Go get each other's Discord tag for the hatefuck
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I know the answer to this. I just want to get any other topic started and want to hear the takes on this board: so.... Why do people think velvet is the least bad of the three, and why do people think she's going to get redeemed?

What do you guys think Abel's character Arc is going to amount to? Viv like to post on Blue sky that said, he felt bad about calling Lute a bitch, because that's the closest thing he has ever been to his father. So what's going to happen with him?

Do you guys think Charlie will successfully redeem a bunch of sinners, or are they going to just settle in making hell a better place than it used to be?

No Bugcuck , you don't get a say
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>>154654258
Lilith Eve is canon just because “lilith” shown off her true Eve form in the flashback and the in the card. And she had a minor slip up in season 1’s finale in showing the black nose Lilith never had.

I don’t need to stalk Viv’s likes or take emoji posts seriously to get to that boring conclusion. It’s practically not even a mystery.
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>>154654321
I'm not the original person responding. Just making an observation. The entire point of these threads is to respond to one another. So ..
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Do you guys genuinely believe Adam will return. No Bugcucks pls
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Tell me about Lucifer. Why does he like the ducks?
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>>154654341
>The entire point of these threads is to respond to one another.
On 4chan this is called 'taking bait'.
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>>154654391
Well... He's an angel. A Seraph, which in this universe they are bird creatures. So I think he's just liking his people. His true form is probably that of a duck
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>>154654380
They have no faith. So no.
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>>154654391
He's based.
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>>154654480
I don't know who "they" is referring to
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>>154654391
The actual reason they needed to give him an autistic obsession and one of the writers saw a rubber duck and went with that. Not sure while they gave him the bird notorious for killing it's female during violent gang raping sessions and raping other juvenile ducks but I don't think they knew those facts.
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>>154654591
The whole board.
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>>154654594
I'm vaguely remembering something like.. He apparently was going to have a different obsession? I don't remember where I heard this or what the other obsession was supposed to be. Maybe I'm confusing what I heard. But I could have sworn, it wasn't going to be ducks but they went with ducks cuz ducks are cute. At least at first glance
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>>154654601
I wasn't asking whether you think the board has faith or not. The question is if they think Adam will come back. You don't speak for everyone lol
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>>154654625
The responses is usually doubts or him being a Roo puppet.
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Idea for a new YouTube cover: Hell's Greatest Mom (Lilith and Lute!Eve edition) Question is, who's who?
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>>154654664
That song is ship bait. No yuri.
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>>154654664
I mean it would definitely be a different dynamic since both are actually mothers unlike Alastor who's larping as a dad. Eve has the numbers advantage since she had a ton of kids. Lilith really only had Charlie. Both are probably gonna be questionable mom.
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>>154654674
Add Adam to the mix to counteract the Yuri cringe. Can't have Yuri stuff if he's dicking both.
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>>154654690
>questionable moms

Forgot to add the s. My bad.
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>>154654664
>>154654674
Lilith!Eve and Lilith.
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>>154654112
there's rubber duck shaped vibrators out there so i wouldn't be surprised.
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>>154654743
That will be great for radioapple fans when Alastor walks into Lucifer’s moments.
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>>154654738
Nobody cares about your lesbian fantasies Bugcuck. You are disgusting to women.
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>>154654690

I also think Eve was a much more hardass/badass mother, raising humanity on prehistoric Earth.

Lute!Eve definitely gets a lyric about saving Abel from the jaws of a sabertooth tiger.

> Abel: (hugging her) "I was stuck, thank you, mama!"
> Charlie: "Awww!"
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>>154654325
>I know the answer to this. I just want to get any other topic started and want to hear the takes on this board: so.... Why do people think velvet is the least bad of the three, and why do people think she's going to get redeemed?
it's a fairly common trope in writing where the sole female member of a villain ensemble is typically the 'most' redeemable or at least sympathetic - people are uncomfortable with truly bastardly women (see lute and stella constantly having their edges sanded off by 'fans') and don't like seeing them either doing evil things or receiving narrative karma for them. couple this with 'we can't have a lesbian black woman be a villain!'/going so woke they horseshoe themselves back to racist misogyny mentality and that's why the fanbase ignores that velvette is the one making and selling all the date rape drugs.
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>>154654391
other people have posted this theory but i like to think making ducks for charlie was one of his most precious memories and - much like stolas taking octavia to loo loo land despite hating it at the time and massively outgrowing it - he clings to ducks because that was the last thing he did that got charlie's adoration and attention.
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>>154654786
Eve/Lute would probably hype herself up for beating the shit out of every predator that crossed her path.
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>>154654738
Silence, Bugcuck.
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>>154654664
Not Lilith.
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>>154654826
That phone is hilarious
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>>154654781
Bugs like me don’t like Yuri.
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>>154654826
>>154654838
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>>154654838
I don't know what service Charlie is using but "The person is out of service or may just be avoiding you" automated voice is the cherry on top
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>>154654826
>Lilith reads texts from Lute of all people
>but completely ignores her own family
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>>154654898
She's ignoring both. And she's clearly reading Charlie and Lucifer's texts. Not only that, but her and Lute are in the same vicinity. They are having active face-to-face communication.
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>>154654855
Vs this
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>>154654921
>And she's clearly reading Charlie and Lucifer's texts.
As you can see, she didn't even click the messages. It is blurry thanks to pic quality but both Charlie and Lucifer have a bunch of untouched messages. It is at the bottom of their message boxes.
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>>154654941
These fanarts do a great job at making me doubt the fan theory and like to see Lute aus.
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>>154654959
>Bugcuck Alert
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>>154654959
It's not. Jessica Vosk accidentally spoiled it on Twitter. And she has said that Lute isn't who we think she is. Meaning, she's Eve. It's kind of obvious.
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>>154654821
Either her or more likely Cain were the first to tame wolves.

They were sat around the fire, and they pick up the giant wolf — for a good Easter egg, it looks like a feral Loona — approaching them slowly from behind.

Lute!Eve holds baby Abel in one arm, and her spear in the other. Shes calculating her next move quickly.

Then just as she’s about to turn around to ram her spear in the wolf’s face, she’s stunned.

Cain is standing in front of the beast, having tossed it a piece of meat. He holds out his hand and slowly rests it on its muzzle.

That night onward, Eve knew Cain was her favourite.
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>>154654959
Right, so anyway. Jessica spoiled it already. She's Eve. Hope this helps!
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>>154654992
I don’t get the Twitter obsession. Her post is something that cannot be clarified without spoiling anything.
Lute is too unique to not be her own thing entirely, especially to have a much better hair style than Eve.
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>>154655013
Anyway Jessica accidentally spoiled it. Lute is Eve. Hope this helps!
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>>154655013
It’s because Vosk had a history up to that point of flirting dangerously close to giving away spoilers with twitter interactions. Take, for example, when she pretty much gave away the Lute vs Vagi rematch in the season 1 finale and how it would go. There’s precedent.
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>>154655013
>Bugcuck Alert
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I'm going to start filtering the phrase 'hope this helps' because it's basically spam now.
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>>154654664
Gotta better one: “More than anything” with Abel and Lute!Eve, though that might depend on where the show goes with their relationship, especially post reveal.
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>>154655028
No not dangerously close, she has outright spoiled things. Like Lute getting a solo in season 3. She confirmed the Vaggie sparing Lute in a fight, before season 2 aired. Nobody knew they were going to fight, much less that Vaggie was going to get the upper hand. She re-quoted that theory, which is still up on her Twitter. She never deleted it.

The Lute/Eve post came at a time when the theory was completely non-existent. There were no posts about this. So she went out of her way to find this, or it came across her feed somehow, she took the time to respond to it. And then she deleted it a few days later. She even acknowledged she deleted that post. That was part of the height for season 2, of which Viv confirmed that the Lilith stuff got postponed to season 3.

We're getting Lute Eve reveal in season 3 for sure
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>>154655032
It definitely is but it wards off Bugcuck, so it's fun to see
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>>154655078
I meant to say a solo in season 2. Though we might be getting one in season 3 also, actually
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>>154655088
It does not ward him off. He's still here replying constantly.
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>>154655028
It’s still not going to be as clear as what was officially released and finalized.
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>>154655102
It does temporarily. Plus sometimes it just outright pisses him off. Also, just a note. You don't have to announce your filtering spam. Nobody really cares
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>>154655106
Lol the cope
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>>154655078
There were Lute Eve postings back then. It’s nothing to take seriously because the OP post is contradictory and in its statements.
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>>154655150
No bug, you're the only one who interprets it that way, and you pretend people ignore that first part of the text. Nobody does that, that's just you coping. And no, it was not common back then. Shut your bitching already
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>>154655106
Bugcuck cope incoming
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>>154655150
>Bugcuck Alert
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Can someone explain the appeal of radiosilence (unrequited radiostatic)?
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So guys, (not Bug) are we thinking Lilith was someone who tried her best to be a good mom, or did she not care for Charlie? Magic man. I would love your input here. Are they subverting at the expectation that she actually was a good mom, and it'll turn out she was actually a Petty piece of shit or are they subverting the expectation that she was a bad person, and it turns out she's much like Lucifer in that she tries to do the right thing but it comes across really bad.

Also, Lilith is generally portrayed with red hair. Why didn't Viv make her a redhead. That would have gone so hard.
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>>154655184
Funny pathetic white TV man pining over a pretty boy nigga that won't give him the time of day and doesn't care for his cracker ass. It's kind of self-explanatory
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>>154655158
> you're the only one who interprets it that way, and you pretend people ignore that first part of the text
You mean the last part of the text and people did ignore it because they wanted to feel super confldent in having proof.
That extra bit of text gives me doubt and alertness from my previous experiences of ignoring “joke details” of lore franchises.

It’s you how has to cope with that crack there I don’t have to deal with just from looking at official Lilith pictures/content.
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>>154655202
Not really
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>>154655226
>You mean the last part of the text and people did ignore it because they wanted to feel super confldent in having proof.
Yes exactly. You pretend people cut that part out, but they don't. I think Looty was the one that explained it to you. I'm not about to do that same song and dance with you. You keep trying to gaslight yourself and everyone else. Keep having fun though. Yes yes, we know the card is proof for you, even though it's been debunked, and it's been explained to you yet again.

But keep dancing. It's funny. Back to lurking.
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>>154655245
Yup.
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>>154655188
Viv has an obsession for blonde women. That's pretty much it.
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>>154655258
It’s not pretending when they always diminish its presence. And Looty didn’t even understand what Viv was saying about secret identities, because Viv outright stated they could be true if the character does physically resemble another character we’ve seen. I trust Viv and so I go by what she given to us in the official release.
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>>154655318
I think she has an obsession with Lady Gaga and boyence.
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>>154655363
She wanted Lady Gaga to voice Lilith. Weird Al as Lucifer and Lady Gaga as Lilith. Based
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>>154655258
In the end you will be God’s punchline.
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>>154655375
Notice how Vel is a whole character all about Gaga’s fashion.
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>>154655378
Zzz
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>>154655378
Bugcuck being a blasphemer again. Guess where he is going when he dies. H E double hockey sticks.
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>>154655412
DOUBLE HELL?!?
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>>154655188
Hmmm.

The thing is, I don't think they'll villainise her or lionise her. I think Lilith will be the greyest character out of all the ones we see. I think Viv likes her too much to go all in either way, especially in making her a piece of shit.

Honestly, I'd find it more refreshing if she turns out to be almost, if not entirely, as big a goof as her husband and child.

you know what I'm hoping she says, first thing on the phone to Charlie?

"Heyyy Biiiitch!" (internally thinking "wtf was that?" to herself immediately afterwards)

Like, if she turns out to be basically be a female Adam. He loved pussy, she loves drinking.

I've no doubt she loves Charlie, and there are reasons why she can't or feels she can't respond until now. Let's not pretend online misogyny doesn't play a part here.

The most mature route could be that Lilith is a selfish person who made selfish decisions. She may be more self-aware of it than Lucifer and feel bad about it, but that's just how some people are. Maybe she felt she did all she could and that the situation between Heaven and Hell had no way of improving. Maybe she feels she and Lucifer really have done more harm than good and is now running away from it.

The answer is simple: she just needs to be written like a human being. Not a girlboss. Not an Incel's caricature of a woman. Just a person who made bad decisions.

I'd love for her to even tell Charlie she needs to stop using her as an example to look up to. She probably hates herself more than anyone else.
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>>154655412
Heaven. Me refusing to participate with your evil is exactly what they want with me.
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>>154655462
Zzz
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>>154655457
That’s odd. I think they’ll villainize both Lilith and Lillith but make them appear good at first. The opposite of Adam.
And Lute and Charlie will be the ones given the different paths to how heaven and hell will be.
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>>154655464
I can help you out if you let me.
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>>154655496
Anyway, Lute is Eve. Jessica confirmed it. You're welcome
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>>154655488
Zzz
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>>154655509
Lute is Eve (definitely not).
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>>154655496

The fuck kind of creepy incel shit is this. I didn't know bug was reaching new levels of low
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>>154655535
I’m pretty sure that anon is a guy.
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>>154655527
Yep exactly. You don't even know the use of the parentheses do you (of course you do)
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>>154655548
Ok incel
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>>154655553
parentheses can be used for jokes, extra context, descriptions, or clarifications. It’s not just one thing.
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New thread?
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>>154655573
Woah, really????? No way!!!!!!!
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>>154655579
Please, on my knees
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>>154655462
You're gonna go straight to Hell where you will be eternally raped by demons while you are burning constantly.
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>>154655579
Not by bug tho
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>>154655636
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