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Would you have liked the show more if it were centered around octavia and loona instead of the gay drama?
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>>154642639
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>>154642639
I would've liked it if they'd just stuck to the original premise from the beginning
Literally all they had to do
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>>154643474
Indeed. They probably could have killed Villainous as a franchise if they had stuck with what the pilot gave us. Instead, Villainous continues to stick around with a cult following and, if anything, looks like the show that HB could have been.
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>>154642639
I already really like the show but if I did have it my way, I have more interest in the Goetia family side of things, so I certainly wouldn't have complained on Stolas being the true protagonist and the family/political fallout of what he's done from his point of view.
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Sticking an angelic needle into Stolas' anus.
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>dating Satana always gets you first row seats to every UFC match
>gets weirdly frisky from them
>the second you get home is followed by wrestling, passionate makeouts, and aggressive coitus along with fresh claw and bite marks all over your body
>also that time she fractured your pelvis
>its a good thing she knows good Sloth doctors
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>>154643998
>Satana meets satina
>Asks for a glass of water
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>>154644076
It is interesting that Andrealphus makes such a fuss of wanting Stolas' Legions but we have no clue what they are or how they operate in the Hellaverse. And more importantly why Andrealphus wants them so badly to do what he's done.
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>>154642639
I would have liked it better if Deerie had shown off her sassy little doe ass more
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If Bee stepped on some toast that'd technically be beans on toast. Pip pip cheerio.
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>>154643474
But anon, think of the CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT we would be missing out on
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>>154644504
Bee wouldn't touch my Wensleydale.
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>It’s the scene in HIL where Octavia saves Anon and Loona but this time she’s too late, and she stares at their lifeless bodies that she pulled up on the shoreline while little chibi ghosts of Anon and Loona dance around her head while Twins at the Carousel plays in the background
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>>154644583
Brutal.
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>>154644552
i need her so bad
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Girl failure
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>>154644583
>I told you we should have called Stolas.
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>>154642830
>HIL but Anon landed in r63 hell
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>>154642830
>>154644804
>Anon and the lads go innawoods
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>>154644766
Anon, did you not read the story?
Stolas was already a prisoner by this point
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>>154645157
I forgot.
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>>154642639
make moxxie hung af
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>>154645207
Fair

On another note, if anyone read a samurai in hell, its got a new update, seems the writer is back on it
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>>154645238
>Moxxie gets hanged
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Anyone here read one helluva broken day?
I've been waiting for years now for an update
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>>154645363
Give us a qrd, whats it about
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>>154644913
>be vewwy vewwy quiet, we're hunting mothmen
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>>154645369
Old SCP (Specifically SCP-001 "when day breaks" timeline) x Helluva boss crossover when hazbin was still a pilot and HB was in S1
Imp teleports into site 19 in total lockdown while the rest of the world is melting into goo
And there's also some site guard who's teamed up with them too
It was good, i thought they played with the premise pretty well
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>Anon adopts with Loona and becomes the dad of three little hellhound hellraisers
>he tries really hard to be a dad for them the way his dad was for him but man is it hard
>he stares as they toilet paper a house, spray paint the windows black and kick the owner in the shins
>"Those pups just ain't right."
>man oh man is it hard
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Does anyone remember this super longform helluva boss fanfic? I can't remember its name but I do remember it having images and one of which was a guy holding loona at gunpoint. Always wanted to read that but i've never been able to find it again
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>accidentally get separated from Loona
>she finds you astonishingly quickly
>"Followed your scent, dumbass."
>"... Sometimes I forget you're a dog."
>"Hellhound. And please, I'm a wolf."
>"Wolfdog."
>"I'll fucking bite you."
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>>154645895
>>"Hellhound. And please, I'm a wolf."
>Anon takes out his phone, google a picture of a husky and shows it to her
>Loona's face when
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>>154645969
Really makes you wonder if it's a chicken and an egg situation. What came first between actual dogs and the hellhounds that kinda look like them
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>>154645969
Considering how dramatic husky's can be I have an easy time believing she is one
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Comforting Loona after a vivid nightmare.
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>>154645998
Well, i headcanon that hellhounds are the descendants of cerberi, who were the monstrous dogs of greek myth, but when christianity took over, hades got turned into hell and the cerbers got selectively bred, most likely by bee, to be more chill, easygoing and docile (but still hate humans)
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>>154646144
>Hellhounds got pug-ified for bee's pleasure
Someone put them out of their misery
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>>154646165
Freakiest things about pugs to me is that their eyes can so easily pop out of their heads.
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>>154645363
I've not finished it but I've ar least read a fair bit into it. I liked it for the most part. It suffers a little from the fact it was written early into the show so the characters can feel kind of ehh, but even with that it's been an enjoyable read.

Plus I always like a good crossover.
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>>154646165
I mean...
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So, anon in BotF is supposed to be a scholomancer, right?
Does this mean that he is going to ride on a dragon at some point in the story?
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>>154644240
Agreed
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Fresh from /hmofa/
See if you get the reference
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>octavia is having a bad day
>it's been months since she broke up with anon but she still hasn't gotten over it
>she decides to go for a walk, get some fresh air
>in the park she spots him
>holding hands with an ordinary crow girl, both of them smiling
>octavia feels herself turn into stella
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>>154646767
>since she broke up with anon
>Sees man she broke up with being happy
>Starts turning bitter and hateful

Why are women like this
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>>154646229
She looks silly.
>>154646767
>crow girl
Octavia becomes self-hating against her own kind, but she just really hates crows and ravens.
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>>154646867
>Octavia becomes a bird racist
Owlcels wish they could compete with the big beaked stacies that are raven girls
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Witchy 'tavia
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>>154647301
Her witch hat needs to be bigger.
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https://x.com/i/status/2077236993864417778

>Raunchy
>Even brandon thinks its too much
They are gonna shove shitzo's buttcrack in our faces, arent they?
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>>154645444
What cryptids would even be in hell?
Like would skinwalkers be any different?
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>>154647468
They're going to say mean words like retarded and maybe a single faggot bonb
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>>154647301
>>154647374
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>>154647602
>
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>>154647602
>>154647374
>>154647650
>Canonically a nigger, a lesbian and an E-thot
What could you possibly see in this hoe?
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>>154647650
One of my faves. <3
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>>154647658
I get Velvette's appeal to an extent, but I prefer Rosie.
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Is gurzil in here?
I wanna ask him what he thinks about slavic esotericism, like kolduns, chorts and zagovory (and if he has any plans on adding anything like that to the story)
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>>154647678
I adore her black lipstick.
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>>154647699
Same.
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>>154647709
She has nice leg game too, but she isn't really for me, like Verosika, she's too much of a trollop for my liking.
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>>154647741
Your edits are always lifefuel, anon. Bless (You).
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>>154647752
If my edits can get someone through a rough day, I'll keep doing them, and likewise, Anon, hope the days ahead be well to you.
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Humanella
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>>154648080
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>>154642639
You know we only watch it for the gay drama, do ya?

Specially the ones that make gay drama about the gay drama
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>>154644715
Pretty brave of Viv to have a caricature of her universe's fanbase in the show...
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>>154648196
Yeah how do you keep that thing from stalking you online after you included it on the show?
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Powerful hoot gf...
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>>154648374
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call me odin cause i need a pair of crow twins to look after me
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>>154648451
Pretty sure the only corvid goetia we have seen so far has been a short fat dude
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>>154648132
Stolas is double gay for not colonizing her properly.
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I miss Nymo.
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Does anyone have a good ref sheet for Loona, Octavia, and Stella?
I've started learning to draw a week ago and I want to eventually draw these characters myself.
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>>154644715
How do you fix her?
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>>154644715
She's cute :)
>>154649051
>Fix her
Why would I fix something that isn't broken?
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>>154649051
You make everyone else a loser, the vivlizop style
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>>154644913
>>154648841
>Nymo, Anon, Octavio, Loono go hunting for skinwalkers
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>the princess of stolas
>the pride of stella
>yet octavia went and got a human bf
>they try and be nice to him, but can only scowl at his smug grin
>octavia drags him to her bedroom
>the walls are thin and they can soon hear her loud moaning
>20 minutes later the dude walks out topless to get some water
>the owl parents are not pleased
>young man, i think we need to talk about protection
>oh i was only using my fingers, sir
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I'm in an overthinking mood today. I think Stella has the potential to be a fantastic case study of a villainous woman who gets near total hatred despite having the same traits as the males. Traits that are romanticized for males but disdained in females. Stella however is much more nuanced just from her reactions and what isn't shown.

Do you remember Stellas' first lines in the show? "You get up." Which from at face value coupled by her shape language, her obvious disdain and her selfishness with the covers spells out how neglectful this character is. But...Hold on. There's some things to consider.

Child Octavia calls for both her mother and father for comfort meaning she doesn't seem to have a preference yet. Stolas differs to Stella which implies he's used to her calming Octavia. Stella in this moment cannot be performative. She has no energy to be. Meaning this is Stellas being the most genuine she's ever been. Which might mirror the root of her disdain for him. She wants Stolas to take charge. She's so dedicated to the lie that is their relationship that she will still sleep in the same bed to keep up the illusion. We know that Stella does not want Stolas turning Octavia against her and we know that Stella does NOT GIVE A SHIT about losing everything if Stolas were to be killed.

I think Stella is purposely trying to set up her daughter to be in a position where she can have a life without subservience. This does not mean she's as close as Stolas is. But that might be because she doesn't have a choice. She's still an evil bitch but she has to be calculated. Everyone even her own brother assumes she's a bimbo. She can't be as openly affectionate and somehow I feel Octavia doesn't actually hate her. But knowing Vivzie she's probably just going to kill her off for disturbing the toxic yaoi. Her history with plot twists always involves absolving the characters she likes having done nothing wrong. And despite that yapping, I do NOT want that for Stella.
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Imagine if James William Bottomtooth was a Goetia.
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>>154649994
Wait but if it's an r63 timeline wouldn't Nymo be a chick? Or is he immune because he's kind of an Anon himself?
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>Anon, is it... Is it really coming home?
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>>154650208
>Child Octavia calls for both her mother and father

I picked up on that too. I thought it was an interesting note. I think the read is that Stella never helped Via but I do like that it opens the door for there to be some depth to be explored. Like part of Via's frustration is that first her mother became distant early in life and now her dad has too in recent years.

It wouldn't be the first time they've used a throwaway gag or line down the road to give things some depth. For as much shit as people give the writing, I do feel, at least in Helluva that they're pretty calculated in the things characters say and do.
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>>154648132
Brown women with upper crust Bong accents make me feral.
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>>154649051
Creative solutions for ghosts
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>>154650915
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>>154650208
Honestly, all of that can be explained by a single thing. Rewrites and retcons. Before they made it so they were childhood friend, love at first sight and that it was a misunderstanding blah blah retcons.
Before the relationship between Stolas and Blitzo was purely transactional and perhaps an abuse of power imbalance. Blitzo being his usual ass self using others through sex and relationships for his own gain like he did with Verosika.

Hell, if I put myself in Stella's shoes, I would also try to murder Stolas.

Now Stella is basically the evil stepmother from Cinderella. We are supposed to hate her, be sympathetic for Stolas and support the toxic as fuck relationship between Blitzo and Stolas.
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>>154646222
Are you faggots so pathetic you're actually talking about fanfiction as if it's not a joke? Is this how far this board and site have fallen?

Perish.
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>>154651106
Get over yourself mate, you are here watching colored drawings like all of us. Especially since you are in this thread, where all the characters are basically Vivziepops OC donut steel characters.
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We shipping Moxxie x Stolas yet?
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>>154651124
I'm just passing by, I don't watch this shit tumblrina show. You are all a devolution even from the ponyfags.
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>>154651132
Nah, we ship MoxxieXVerosika
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>>154651168
This
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>>154648451
ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾ
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>>154651734
Octavia being a bit of a dork about the fireworks here is the true Octavia. Once she sheds her edgy goth teen phase. A total dweeb just like her dad and that's why I like her.
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>Loona likes it when (you) brush her
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>>154648132
dark choco stella...
cappuccino octavia...
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>>154647696
>Is gurzil in here?
>I wanna ask him what he thinks about slavic esotericism, like kolduns, chorts and zagovory (and if he has any plans on adding anything like that to the story)

I'm much more familiar with south-slav stuff than I am with Russian and Ukrainian folklore. Especially because of all the weird remnants of Bogomilism/Petrine Christianity and overlaps with Greek mythology. I did read this back in undergrad but that was a while ago and don't remember much.

On a related note would people be interested in a mega with all the books and papers I've downloaded that might be relevant to the fic. Might be a thread or private message exclusive because I'm uncomfortable with sharing me pirate booty on AO3.
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>>154652810
>On a related note would people be interested in a mega with all the books and papers I've downloaded that might be relevant to the fic
depends, would they be needed to understand whats going on in the story or are they better kept as supplementary matiral, to give a better perspective for what we just read once the story is finished?

anyway, i got one more question, how exactly does the scholomance myth being a transylvanian exclusive thing fit in?
if goetias used it to recruit noble pawns, why did it become well known to a bunch of peasants in the middle of the carpathians?
also will anon ride a dragon at some point?
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>>154652991
>depends, would they be needed to understand whats going on in the story or are they better kept as supplementary matiral, to give a better perspective for what we just read once the story is finished?

They aren't necessary but they give perspective. It's like pic related. You should be able to enjoy it if you're ignorant of the inspirations, but it might help. I'd do something like pic related if I had photoshop.


>anyway, i got one more question, how exactly does the scholomance myth being a transylvanian exclusive thing fit in?
>if goetias used it to recruit noble pawns, why did it become well known to a bunch of peasants in the middle of the Carpathians?

Vlad the Impaler couldn't keep his trap shut. Really I think that the sins focused more on getting influence via deals in Western Europe whereas the Goetia focused on the comparatively less centralized and less populated east.

>spoiler
Maybe...
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https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cueva_de_Salamanca
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>>154653477

>it wasn't an angelic bullet
>he and Blitzo had a particularly bad spat and Stolas wanted to guilt trip him
>Stella shoots him with an elephant gun once a week
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>>154652810
I'd personally be interested, anon. I love reading esoterica
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>>154645243
I heard he plans on turning Jack into a werewolf which is omega gay.
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I found an image on /v/ that feels applicable to the normalfag fanbase.
Thanks /v/...
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>>154653742
That's kind of cool actually.
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>>154653742
>he plans on turning Jack into a werewolf
wait, what
where did you hear that?
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>My name is Anon
>sinner in hell
>got sent down for tax evasion or some shit
>Hear hellhounds getting treated like garbage
>decide to adopt some
>show up to the adoption center
>End up with four of them
>Golden retriever named Bubbles, always happy, tail won't stop wagging, knocking over my cheap IKEA furniture (yes somehow IKEA exists in hell, go figure).
>Doberman named Shadow thinks she's my bodyguard, growls at my own reflection
>husky named Lora, won't shut the fuck up, howling at 3 am because she saw a moth
>and a wolf named Mei, an actual apex predator, keeps trying to drag my mattress to make a den
>My studio apartment looks like a zoo had explosive diarrhea
>try to establish rules
>They ignore me
>Shadow ate my last slice of pizza
>Lora peed on my R Kelly poster (the disrespect)
>Bubbles brought me a severed imp head like "look what I did!"
>Mei is just staring at me like I'm the next meal
> One day I caught Luna chewing my limited edition Blitzo figurine
>yell "Luna stop!"
>she looks me dead in the eyes
>"My Satan! You're not my real dad!"
>oh hell no
>This ends now
>put my foot down
>literally
>stand on the coffee table
>grab the figurine from her jaws
>look all four of them in the eyes
>"LISTEN HERE YOU FURBALLING FUCKS"
>"YOU LIVE UNDER MY ROOF NOW"
>"YOU EAT MY FOOD, YOU SLEEP IN MY BED, YOU SHIT ON MY LAWN"
>"SO YOU'RE GONNA BECOME LUCIFERIANS OR SO HELP ME"
>"I WILL NOT RAISE NO SATANISTS IN THIS HOUSEHOLD"
>"LUCIFER IS KING, SATAN IS A KEK, THAT'S THE HIERARCHY"
>silence
>Bubbles stops wagging
>Shadow's ears actually go down
>Lora looks like I just explained quantum physics
>Mei... nods?
>They all sit
>actual dog training moment
>I'm the alpha now
>fuck yeah
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>>154653757
I thought it was hilarious how the internet acted like he betrayed them by being revealed to be cuck with a crazy OnlyFans GF.
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>>154654573
>Luna
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>>154654794
fucking hell!
Forgot to change it to Lora
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>>154650642
Technically if it's r63 anon would be a chick too but I was going for a "going hunting with your mates" type of vibe
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>>154650936
you'd love voltron legendary defender then.
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>>154655062
>Technically if it's r63 anon would be a chick too
Depends what you're going for but I like either or, both make funny what ifs
>but I was going for a "going hunting with your mates" type of vibe
Fair point and based
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>>154651080
I hear what you're saying but I am distracted by the bukakke.
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>>154655062
>r63 HIL anon
>still bald
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>>154655446
When you're jacking off in your owl girlfriends' closet to surprise her but her mom opens it instead.
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>>154656185
>Stella in this moment being unable what she is more shocked by. The fact she just got blasted in thick creamy monkey juice, or the fact technically that was the best sex she had.
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>>154657062
ignore the stroke im tired pls
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>>154653618
>Ywn get to admire Stella's passion for guns. Guns she shoots her bitch ass cheating prick husband with.
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>>154653477
So, I only really interact with fanfic and fanon, so I don't really know anything about this scene. I assume you can't die to Hell, or is Stolas actually dead proper here?
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>>154657112
its from a fanmade video in which he an heroes
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>>154657094
>Stella borrows Moxxie's gun collection to shoot Stolass in exchange for Goetian wine.
>>154657081
I am tired too, Anon.
>>154650951
>Anon and Blitzo have to hide from Octavia and Stolas.
>It didn't come home.
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bird women...
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>>154642639
> Would you have liked the show more if it were centred around lesbian drama instead of gay drama
eh, it'd probably turn out the same, given what we've seen in Hazbin hotel.
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>>154650208
There's something extremely funny about Stella being a huge bitch for 2 seasons and in season 3 Blitzo or Moxie try to help Stolas by saving Octavia from the clutches of her evil and it turns out Octavia has never once hated her Mother and they are actually super close. Not even manipulated. She has always aspired to be like both parents.
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>>154657427
Making HB into a lesbian centered show could fix one issue and that's the Stella and Stolas issue, but switching the sexes isn't enough to really fix it. Though regarding Hazbin, it has many other issues apart from the lackluster lesbian "pairings."
>>154657406
Speaking of such, Georgina Leahy supposedly said that Stella likes metal, that being said, how popular is metal among the Goetians or is it something they hide to keep up appearances even amongst each other.
>>154658222
Checked.
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>>154658309
>Turns out everything we see on the show was actually through the POV of either stolas or blitzo
>We never see stella and octavia interact because the fag owl choses to selectively see only stella's bad moments, to better justify his perversion and betrayal
>Even the scenes of stella taking octavia's phone werent actually real, it was only what stolas himself imagined was happening
>In truth, octavia herself doesnt want to speak to him anymore because he lied to her and betrayed her trust
>He almost had this delusion shattered when octavia chose to abandon him
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>>154658331
You guys instantly assumed they'd be lesbians but Octavia being 17 and "ace" would ensure they'd just be friends. It'd just be Tuca and Bertie but with way less obnoxious leads.
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>your waifu dabs in front of you
Wat du?
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>>154658507
>"You're so cute."
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>>154658507
Dab back, of course
Then do the floss for extra zoomie zoom zoom points
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>>154658507
I'd wonder what have the children been showing or teaching her.
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This is what the average octaviafag looks like
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>>154658716
Reality is often disappointing.
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I personally would've liked it more if it focused more on the tender family moments with Loona, her husband and their family.
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Cringy, angsty owls...
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>>154650915
>Is it really coming home?
what does this mean?
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>>154660086
Football match
[Spoiler]Engerland lost
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>>154660096
rip
not enough people were banging on drums it seems
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>>154658716
No, you're meant to be posting the picture of that one mexican octaviafag.
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>>154660175
Is a mexican really worse than a tranny, though?
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>>154660187
The mexican one is funnier though, because it looks like a stereotypical tranny due to the faint moustache
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>>154644188
More like a glaring plothole. In Demonology, the legions were used for waging war on Heaven and committing civil wars against other demons....of which we obviously do not see either of this in the show. They probably just saw that that was a thing and ran with it, but didn't bother actually learning into what it is.
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>tfw no hoot gf to cuddle to sleep with
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>>154660336
Yes but unlike her mother, she doesn't have a nice pair of hooters
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>>154659680
why is octavia pimping her father?
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>>154661029
Someone better woo Keenie before she becomes a spinster. I volunteer.
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>>154642639
>Gay drama but it'd be two furry girls.
We have that on furaffinity.
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Owl and dog should get married.
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