Bump if you're reading.
And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.
>>154647458I feel like everything pi-related mentioned earlier in the issue doesn't work if it was supposed to be in base 12 this whole time
>>154647505It explicitly mentions 3.14 x 10^14 which makes no sense if the number system is base 12
We could've had space adventures but noooo gotta follow some fuckass kids on earth no one likes or asked for
>>154647521As a number of digits that they've counted pi out to, but not pi itself. And fractions are their own base, essentially. The only people who refer to pi by the proper number are the aliens in the book. It's clever, as are the subtle 6 fingers early on.
>>154647544Yeah what the fuck was this issue? I'd be so mad if I randomly grabbed this at full price.
>>154647559It's certainly trying to be clever, but it wasn't thought all the way through. Pretty common theme with this book
>>154647435>R munroeThe xkcd guy?
God this artist sucks why does everyone have six fingers
>>154647521Yeah, that's what I thought. While I like the idea of the issue, North botches the execution by not utilizing base 12 from the start and just using base 10 with two new numbers thrown in where nobody is going to look too hard, just so that "actually humans used base 12 the whole time" could serve as a reveal instead of something being off from the start. At least everyone having 12 fingers is something that is visible from the beginning if you go and re-check.>>154647559I think he means that if base 12 was the standard, they wouldn't be using 10 for exponents. Similarly, the issue mentions Romans or Babylonians calculating pi as 25/8, but if there were two numbers following 9, it would be written as 21/8 in base 12 instead.
>>154647619It would also not be 3.14, it would be 3.18
>>154647449This is starting to feel suspiciously educational
>>154647473This is stupid. This is the kind of thing you'd get out of an old anthology book that doesn't need to have a kind of lasting continuity. But we're in a 2026 comic book. GOING LOL DIGITS doesn't work.
>>154647628You mean 3.12
>>154647453She is cute, what the hell?
>>154647458Back track in the previous pages anf you'll see the humans having 6 fingers in each hands.
reading this actually made me feel violated. Like i was just raped. I feel like there's a handprint on my crotch. The idea that they can just go back in time and do things to us and we won't know feels like daterape or something. I didn't agree to this. I didn't agree for you to permanently alter my life and change the number of fingers on my hand. I feel so fucked up after reading this. that was 100% rape adjacent. what they did was rape.
>>154647410"Nicki" a cute.CUTE!
>>154647592Yeah they even make a reference to his comic
>>154648282First thing I did too.
>>154649162kek
>>154648720>Person who has never had physical contact with another starts talking about rape and thinks it's funny.
>>154647393I refuse to buy a FF comic while Johnny has the fag stache
>>154647582I'm sure they'd have done this properly without deadlines. The idea is great.
>>154647729Beats actual school eh?
>>154647393just 3 coversFantastic Four #14 Aaron Kuder Disability Pride VariantFantastic Four #14 David Nakayama Color Block Blue VariantFantastic Four #14 Matthew Waite 8-Bit VariantFantastic Four #14 1:25 Steve Rude VariantFantastic Four #14 1:50 David Nakayama Color Block Blue Virgin Variant>65th ANNIVERSARY SPECTACULAR! It's the 65th Anniversary of the Fantastic Four, and to celebrate, we've got an extra-large, extra-fantastic adventure for you, starring everyone's favorite adventurers, spanning centuries of history and a universe of scientific progress! The Fantastic Four have been defeated: With their personal arrows of time reversed, they're careening into the past with no hope of salvation – unless a complete stranger can find out what they need. But even if she does, that will only get them halfway home, because there's still a threat in the present that's waiting to kill them – and that's IF they can arrive there alive! This is one issue you won't want to miss – because you'll have to wait 65 years for ANYTHING like it.PLUS: Johnny's mustache saves New York City?!FEATURING CLASSIC IMAGES BY JACK KIRBY, JOHN BUSCEMA, JOHN BYRNE AND STEVE EPTING SEEN IN AN ENTIRELY NEW WAY!>CRASH LANDING! The Fantastic Four have crash-landed on a far-off world and have been repairing their spaceship for weeks as they blend in with the aliens who live there, trying to keep a low profile. But when an unexpected discovery — shared with the best of intentions — leads to chaos, only the Fantastic Four can stop an entire world from sliding into a destruction of their own creation! This won't be easy- and it may not even be possible. Because to save this world... the Fantastic Four must die!>The Fantastic Four find themselves in a strange environment, with no memory of how they got there... or worse, of who they actually are. There is a rock monster among them. They seem to have strange powers. And each of them has sustained serious injuries
>RELEASES OCT 28, 2026Fantastic Four #18The Fantastic Four are lost, with no memory of who they are or why they’re there — but now they know they need to find out, fast —because Magneto’s life hangs in the balance. But without identities — or a clear understanding of their powers — the FF are as much a danger to themselves as they are their opponents.
>>154647453>Millennia agoLady, your civilization is millions of years old
>>154647460>>154647469That's not how time work in the Marvel universe, they just created a timeline when humans have 10 fingers and moved there
>>154647544The kids aren't the problem, it's North doing these stupid episodic plots about boring science facts
>>154647480Having a bit about sign language in your comic, after you chop off a pair of fingers for humans forever, is a bit of a disconnet.
>>154651158F4's time machine actually does change the history (sometimes). The precise way it works though is never consistent.
>>154647473That's great! That is what we need in comicbooks more, fun self-contained stories instead of the endless barrage of preludes and aftermaths of crappy global events.
>>154647441>of course, we just need to change pi!These kids
>>154647619>I think he means that if base 12 was the standard, they wouldn't be using 10 for exponents.Anon.
>>154647619Anon, the joke is that in base 10 "3 + 1/8" and "25/8" is the exact same number, it's only different in base 12.
>>154651911I might be stupid because I do not understand
>>154651958*it's different in every other base, I should say
>>154651959In base 4, "10" is 4.The alien should be saying "What's 4?"
A handy guide for math challenged anons:In base 12, 10 is 12 (base 10) and 25 is 29 (base 10).I hope this helps.
>>154651958But 25 in base 10 would be 21 in base 12, no? So the pi in base 12 wouldn't be 25/8, it would be 21/8
>>154652334The comic is written in base 12. You can even see the extra glyphs in >>154647413 already.
>>154647484Holy shit, Finesse is in a comic in the Year of Our Lord 2026!? And some crippled person?
>>154648282yeah, this was a cute trick
>>154652348Though I just noticed that has a 12:05 p.m. instead of 10:00 p.m., so ya goofed Ryan
>>154652397Aw fuck North got me >>154647473
>>154647521I mean, not necessarily. Base 10 is useful for a number of reason, so using it for high-level math(which is the only context we have seen it in the story) could still work.I feel this would have worked better by skipping that one portayal though.
>>154652455The comic's written in base-12. That's actually ~5.7x10^16.
>>154652348But the approximation of pi by ancients as 25/8 WAS in base 10. It doesn't make sense for it to still be 25/8 in base 12.>>154647435If 25 here is in base 12, then it implies that pi approximation in base 10 is 29/8, which is just wrong.
>>154652644>>154652547in short, once again North is not as good at science as he think he is and his writing fails at the flimsiest analysis.that's why he's better on Flash, where science is magic
>>154652644there's no better approximations using 8ths, of course it would still be 3 + 1/8.>If 25 here is in base 12, then it implies that pi approximation in base 10 is 29/8, which is just wrong.Yes, but the Romans never approximated pi better than the Babylonians and it's just being used as a joke (the joke is that 3+1/8 and 25/8 are different numbers in base-12 but not base-10).>>154652691No, the comic has it right.
>>154652691>in short, once again North is not as good at science as he think he is and his writing fails at the flimsiest analysisRemind me, what were the other times this happened in his F4 run?
>>154652719>Yes, but the Romans never approximated pi better than the Babylonians and it's just being used as a joke (the joke is that 3+1/8 and 25/8 are different numbers in base-12 but not base-10).But it's not framed as a joke? And it doesn't even make sense as a joke if this is written in base 12, because it just implies that romans were retarded and their value for pi was wildly off (29/8 being 3.625).
>>154652790You don't realize it's a joke when you first read until the reveal.Yes, the joke is that this world's Romans are very dumb.
>>154652733most of the time when he uses anything beyond the most superficial level.Do note i actually like a lot his characterizations. He's either just not good at science or not good at using it in stories.
>>154647473Now did anyone notice the 6 fingers on everyone's hands early in the book?
>>154647473I want to tickle those green feet.
>>154647480They have tutors for age, sex, location now?
>>154647497>another sue focused storyjust fuck off. the male member literally get nothing to do any more aside form being weak and lame comic relief so girlbosses can be "strong" that shit is exactly why the movie flopped so hard
>>154647618Made with AI
>>154647729Nothing wrong with learning things from comics
>>154652886Except it is not a joke or an implication that Romans were retards, you're trying to pass this off as one just to handwave the fact that North botched his own conversion to base 12
>>154648282And here I thought it was AI
>>154653317What are you on, schizo? The synopsis says nothing about it being a Sue-centric story> It's the 65th anniversary of The Fantastic Four, and to celebrate, we've got an extra-large, extra-fantastic adventure for you starring everyone's favorite adventurers, spanning centuries of history and a universe of scientific progress! The Fantastic Four have been defeated: with their personal arrows of time reversed, they're careening into the past with no hope of salvation - unless a complete stranger can find out what they need. But even if she does, that will only get them halfway home, because there's still a threat in the present that's waiting to kill them - and that's IF they can arrive there alive! This is one issue you won't want to miss - because you'll have to wait 65 years for ANYTHING like it. PLUS: Johnny's mustache saves New York City?!
>>154653548No, otherwise you wouldn't repeat yourself by saying 25/8 two different ways.
>>154647497Thanks OP
>>154647393Like it or not, never have I seen a /co/ thread where the main discussion is math so kudos to the issue
>>154651104Vestigial human author aspects.
>>154652366Apparently early onset dementia that hasn't happened yet to her counts.
>>154651104Yeah but the Skrulls never counted until after the Pama incident.
>>154654764>Pama incident.Isn't that the destruction of Hala? That is Kree stuff
At least he's finally using the kids, let's hope he start using FF villain outside of Doom and the Wizard (the latter only for jokes)
Fuck North
Hump
>>154647413>Implying Reed has security systems that aren't Skrull proofNorth is fucking idiot
>>154647521>It explicitly mentions 3.14 x 10^14 which makes no sense if the number system is base 12Yeah, that's one fuckup. Timestamps also still use base 10.>>15464747312 is used frequently, such as in clocks, because that's the only way you can divide them by 2,3,4 and 6. Romans already divided the day up to 12 hours, and used dividers of 12 in currency and measurement units (both named uncia, where the word ounce comes from). This is something that has been used since antiquity because it makes a fuck ton more sense. Nothing to do with base 10.Not that I'd expect a hack comic book writer from America to understand this.
>>154647458>>154648282Not going to lie: this plot twist blew my mind and I loved it.
>>154657202>>It explicitly mentions 3.14 x 10^14 which makes no sense if the number system is base 12>>Yeah, that's one fuckup. Timestamps also still use base 10.No, every bases' scientific notation would look like 10^x because: >>154651911 every base is base 10.
>>154647453Remember this peaceful Skrull educator the next time the Avengers are killing Skrulls left and right without remorse.
>>154658136To make sure they don't miss one
>>154658136Killing is allowed in wartime.
>>154654703Didn't the comic say she had autism at some point?
>>154647521That's the Kree and Skrull scientists talking about their systems.
>>154658173She self-determined she didn't when struggling with other people's emotions because of lacking the other signs. Of course, such a diagnosis shouldn't be self-determined but comics are going to comics.
>>154658282No it's not it's part of the mailing list that kicks off the story
>>154658282No, it's Dr. Munroe talking about how many digits of pi they've calculated. The comic's written in base-12, they just avoid the 10 and 11 glyphs except in the pi section here >>154647413
Here is the base-10 sub for those that can't speak base-12.
>>154653585The freak just saw Sue at the center of the composition and assumed she was the center of the story
