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Lucy Losing Lucidity edition
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Inexplicably horny
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Lucyspace, not even once
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>>154652186
No one cares, Lucy. Have your public freakout in private, please.
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>>154652186
Don't forget the preview for next page
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>>154652250
I can fix her
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>>154652355
Oh my God she meets Francis in the next page!?!??!?!?
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>>154652250
Can't help but rub one out, even if standing behind a concrete pole is all the privacy she can afford
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>>154652355
This meltdown has turned into a stealth mission
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>>154652250
>when you lost your baseball bat the night before
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>>154652186
Wow, maybe nothing will happen this chapter after all. Taeshi's wasting a lot of pages on Lucy's little panic attack, and now we're pretty much halfway through the total pagecount.
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>2 weeks later and lucy's still in the verge of a breakdown
TAESHI
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>>154652186
Oh no! If only Lucy had anyone that cared for her and wanted to help her!
No, that one doesn't count. That doesn't count either. No she's a girl of course she doesn't count and neither does the other one
Won't anyone take pity on Lucy?
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>>154652487
>hey Lucy
>Lucy!
>Lucy!!
LUIGI!!!
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>>154652460
Are you feeling sorry for her yet or should she start sobbing for another week?
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>>154652460
>>154652545
You can tell Taeshi's utterly captivated by Lucy's panic attack. I'm sure it's all very relatable and valid to her.
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taeshi shows mike's possessiveness but not lucy's, really makes you think
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>>154652615
She basically copy/pasted "But they must always be mine" from Lucy onto Mike and has yet to back it up.
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>>154652615
Please just have the school shooting arc already
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>>154652355
>Lucy's nightmares are invading reality via Lucyspace in the form of shadow people
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>>154652652
It does feel like she accidentally got Mike and Lucy's character bios mixed up one day and has yet to correct it. Even Mike's lowest moments (December, EF) do not reflect this possessive mindset in the slightest.
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>>154652615
Where's that from?
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>>154652735
taeshi's artfight
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>>154652355
What is this bitch looking at?
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>>154652785
Paulo and Lucy's takes on each other sound like they are from a completely different era, or possibly one that never existed.
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>>154652615
>>154652785
>Mike's description is a zero sympathy "I'm evil" speech
lol
>Lucy to Mike "uhhh I love him or some shit"
>Lucy to Paulo "AWOOOOOOOOOGA PAULO GIVE ME YOUR DICK RIGHT NOW, I LOVE HOW YOU OBJECTIFY ME"
Taeshi hates Mike so much it's almost endearing.
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>>154652845
Lucy's take on Mike is weird. It's much closer to obsession than anything resembling actual love. Perhaps an insight into Taeshi's own idea of "love."
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Alright anons, I've decided to write a fanfic about an anon who has canon knowledge about BCB replacing Mike's mind.
I plan the timeline would be around before Lucy leaving and her jumping off a building.
What would be entertaining decisions that Anon!Mike should do? Befriend Lucy to prevent her from jumping off the building and keep her distance? Break up with Sandy? Please give suggestions on what would be the most interesting outcome.
I'll probably re-read this comic to write the fic too.
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>>154652785
fatcat truthnuke
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>>154652785
>make the propaganda I refuse to put into the actual comic for me
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>>154652785
Fuck it, I'm done with the main comic. My thoughts on this are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDWEN-kNII
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>>154652615
I wonder if AI will progress to a point where we can ask it to generate the version of BCB Taeshi seems to think she's actually writing.
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>>154652370
Get off 4chan and hop to it, Alejandro. She's been dreaming about you comforting and rescuing her from the judgement of her "friends" for years.
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>>154652615
here's the rest of mike's relationships
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Cool, an entire chapter of 'woe is me'.
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>>154652887
Sabotage the play so it doesn't happen. A lot of Lucy's desicions that day happened during the play, stopping her from doing her good bye tour might put her into a better mindset to take the peace offering and enough time to sit down and make peace now, not next time
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>>154652917
If Taeshi's writing is akin to a winding road being laid down at a snail's pace, her attitude toward her own characters is like a car haphazardly swerving all over the place, often veering off the road and into the woods.
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>>154652785
What's an artfight? Is this on the website, or is it some twitter/bluesky thing?
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>>154652972
bold of you to assume this won't take multiple chapters
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>>154652989
I mean I know what she's trying to do, she has always complained no big name artist ever does fanart of her comic, and this is her best chance at hooking some sucker that doesn't intend to read her comic but sees characters easy enough to draw, free PR from people less likely to shoot themselves in the foot. The other thing is that putting all of this up is yet more evidence of her bias as an author and fanning the dumpster fire her blog started
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>>154652785
and the rest of lucy's relationships, no sue because taeshi didn't give her her own profile
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>>154652964
>Paulo and Mike
Actually depicted in the comic itself.

>Mike and Daisy
A bit outdated(?) but also accurate.

>Mike and Sandy
Woefully outdated but accurate at one point in time.

>Mike and Augustus
Accurate to the Spergfest Era.

>Mike and Abbey
Accurate enough from what we've seen (which isn't much).

>Mike and David
I can 100% believe David has always been a nasty duplicitous shitbag.

So from what I can tell, the real delusional takes happen only once Lucy gets involved.
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>>154653048
rachel is a nice girl
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>>154652964
lol only that?
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>>154653048
>Lucy is refusing to hang out at the other table because she's still assblasted that Rachel and Paulo were fucking
lmao
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>>154653018
it's a site for this big art event where you gift art of people's own characters
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>>154653048
Augustus goes way further than anyone who just "owes" Lucy ever would. It's also very clear he's her boy blanket and that Lucy seethes hard over Sandy.

Taeshi's really abandoned all objectivity about White Cat, huh?
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>>154652615
These should be reversed at best. December literally happened because Mike was trying to lucy off/out.
>>154652785
>Lucy and Daisy's
That is completely accurate.
>>154652964
>Mike calls Paulo Male Lucy, and Paulo reads like something either with an inferiority complex or very gay.
>David is a reason dogs shouldn't be in the comic.
>Mike and Abby's is short, sweet, and to the point, plus lacks cope.
>>154653048
>Lucy actualy balmes sandy for shit falling apart and not the fact that she was beating Mike's ass since at least 3rd grade.


Also, a decent chunk of Mike's are either bullshit or out of date, or Taeshi still believes it. Lucy tells me she doesn't really have friends; these people are the only things she wants to fuck or own.
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>>154652964
>David to Mike

Also I am struggling to see any jealousy of Augustus. He rejected his opportunity to be Lucy's eunuch pretty firmly.
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>>154653018
Art trades but with fancy name
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>>154653135
To be fair Taeshi is for some reason always punishing this frozen in time Mike from years ago, not the emaciated kid that's actually getting all the punches, so her writing everything related to him like it was from books ago makes sense, isn't good, but makes sense
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>>154653141
>Also I am struggling to see any jealousy of Augustus
Mike was jealous that Augustus got basically the good version of the Lucy relationship (so far as Mike could tell). All the upsides but none of the downsides of when scarf and bowcat were friends, while also feeding into his feelings of disposability.
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I'm finally free, since the author apparently doesn't value canon or truth. I can finally quit and be happier for it.
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>>154653048
She missed the most important one
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>>154652964
>>154653064
>Mike and Paulo
it's only MOSTLY in the comic. the "he's like Lucy" thing doesn't seem to be something Mike actually expresses. Paulo also isn't written anything like Lucy is.

now, does Taeshi think she's written Lucy and Paulo to be similar to each other? entirely possible.

>Mike and Daisy
seems accurate. Paisy hasn't really changed anything AFAICT.

>Mike and Sandy
hasn't been accurate in years

>Mike and Augustus
Mike has never actually behaved this possessively. it's like Taeshi perceives the possessiveness she writes into Lucy as something Mike is doing; genuinely bizarre.

Augustus' thoughts here make zero sense until his sudden character shift in LitS.

>Mike and Abbey
accurate.

>Mike and David
David is bizarre, because nobody seems to care that David exists - they don't get as angry at him as they should, nor do they seem to consider him positively. Mike doesn't act like he thinks David means well. David doesn't act like a sane person so that side is at least accurate.
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>>154653141
>He rejected his opportunity to be Lucy's eunuch pretty firmly.
To give the bullshit some idea, maybe Mike subconsciously is bitter that these guys get to be close with Lucy without being her emotional and physical punching bag. Mike, when he attempted to be close to Lucy, was always dealt with rebuffs or violence for literal years. The comic, despite reframing the tsundere shit as absue sorta needs to gloss over the fact that Lucy was actually abusive to Mike for most of his life.

The idea that Lucy has improved only comes from the fact that she isn't hitting people like she has been for several years in-universe as much.

>>154653186
Cept despite her actions, she has not proved the mike of the past wrong. Every single of these blips about Lucy relationships show that Mike was right, even if she won't admit it.
>Only sue paulo as a sextoy
>None of the girls are her friends
>views Augustus as an obligation
> Despite everything is still obsessed wiht Mike.
>>154653205
>while also feeding into his feelings of disposability.
I mean, he was right to have those feelings, they didn't even know if he was dead yet from the river, and Lucy had already attached to Paulo for comfort, and Lily was only concerned about finding Mike for Lucy's sake vs his.

We literally get Lucy's inner dialogue from years ago, and she treats him like an object; it's really hard to read this pic as flattering.
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>>154652887
>Try to do for Sandy what she did for Mike by helping her realize how messed up her life is and encouraging her to push back
>Be less of a doormat in general
>Try to prevent Lucy's downwards spiral and suicide attempt

The main point you should keep in mind is that "MC uses out-of-context-knowledge to immediately solve problems" is the least interesting part of any isekai. Anon!Mike's actions to solve or prevent the problems of canon should result in new, unforeseen problems if you want it to be interesting. Like, maybe just as anon manages to somewhat stabilize Lucy, a more assertive and cheerful Sandy returns to Roseville because she took Anon!Maishul's words to heart and insisted. Or like >>154652987 says, stopping the play successfully drags Lucy back from the edge of despair, but now Sue is depressed instead.
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>>154653242
>Paulo also isn't written anything like Lucy is
I don't know, plenty of anons have accused Paulo of being basically male Lucy due to some shared tendencies. It's interesting to see both them and Taeshi share a wavelength.
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>>154652964
>No Mike/Amaya
>No Mike/Sue
>No Mike/Rachel
>No Mike/Haley
Truly end times
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>>154653254
Oh yeah I'm not saying Mike was wrong, but that she takes into account a personality that's no longer reflected on him nowadays, her effigy of Mike is the guilt free spine-having athlete who many girls want, and I believe she does so to avoid admitting she's kicking someone down
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>>154653279
What is with this grab bag mixture of different eras?
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>>154653267
Considering how much people shat on her play in comparison to Jess masturbatory tale of lesbian empowerment I'd be doing her a favor
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>>154653291
>her effigy of Mike is the guilt free spine-having athlete who many girls want, and I believe she does so to avoid admitting she's kicking someone down
I think Taeshi picks from whatever timepoint in the comic is most convenient for whatever she's trying to do at any given moment and believes or pretends that's valid.
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>>154653322
Convenience, it's what the author wants fanart of, she's taking advantage that people in the game don't care for her comic so she can control the context
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>>154653242
Mike literally says that about Paulo in that BCI where they're supposed to be shopping for a present for Haley but OOPS ALL PAULO
>mean
>horny
>go into hysterics if people reject them
>"caring" (pets for Lucy, that fucking doll for Paulo)
It's shallow but Taeshi's shallow
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>>154653267
>>154652987
>sabotage the play
What would be the best way to go about it subtly? Drop out of the role? Convince Sue and the others the play is a terrible idea?
I'm open to any ideas.
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>>154653279
Paulo, you insulted his murdered mother and bullied him for literally no reason.
>Still think Mike should be with Lucy
Mike Shoulda slammed his head meat more.
>>154653291
Idk how she wouldn't realize she is kicking someone down when he feels his friends will abandon him for Lucy, which Mike has believed for years. Then write LITS:
>which confirms that even new friends will abandon him for Lucy
>After Mike says Lucy treated him like she and you SAW her kick him in the gut
>Gaslight Mike into blaming him for the bullshit
She had already written Mike as depressed and starving himself with his home life falling apart(the only thing missing is the beatings). With Mike, after LITS only getting worse and spiraling, and that is all squalry, Lucy and her helpers' fault.
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>>154653273
oh i'm not saying there isn't any overlap, but a lot of that is stuff like >>154653355 where they're taking stuff out of blogs and BCIs that aren't in the comic itself.

it sort of goes back to Taeshi's utter blindness to how possessive she's written Lucy to be - it's practically her defining character trait, and Paulo doesn't have it.
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>>154653242
Paulo is male Lucy in the way the narrative tends to bend itself to his favor, it's less of an "in comic" thing but it's very obvious Tae plays favorites with him, the "very one sided competition he won by pretending to apologize" being the equivalent of "Lucy yells at everyone into feeling bad for her"
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>>154652785
Jesus, Lucy is thirsty
This isn't even how Lucy talks, it just feels like Taeshi saying this.
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>>154652615
Mike text is pure schizoshit. Maybe it would make sense if it was from Lucy's POV. That or Taeshi just doesn't know what his character actually is.
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>>154653418
i'm not making a meta argument. i'm talking about things the characters think about each other within the setting, based on the setting itself.
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>>154652964
Hasn't 90% of Mikes near death experiences been directly caused by David?
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>>154653473
Yes.
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>>154653442
The problem is that the author does all this extra shit on meta arguments because none of that is in the comic proper, which is where all the frustration comes from
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>>154653441
It's like Taeshi wants to believe that's what his character is because it fellates Lucy's ego and therefore her own. But it must be a new delusion because she sure hasn't done anything in the comic itself to back up the claim.
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>>154653516
for the purposes of this discussion i'm completely disregarding characterization in blog posts and BCIs (the latter of which are explicitly irrelevant to BCB canon).

based on what's in the comic, Paulo's not "male Lucy."

if i were to include meta discussion, Taeshi seems to make the meta comparisons between Paulo and Lucy as a way to justify Lucy's behavior, more than the other way around. Paulo doesn't have the immunity to social consequences in BCB that Lucy is granted.

i feel like a lot of people in these threads would benefit from just ignoring Taeshi's blog posts entirely.
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>>154653401
The easy way is to make an "accidental" fire to trigger the fire alarm, ruining the stage and postponing the play at least one day, just say it's "Sue luck" at play
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>>154653591
>i feel like a lot of people in these threads would benefit from just ignoring Taeshi's blog posts entirely
It would probably lower the cortisol levels significantly. But on the other hand, those posts do prove the woman to be batshit insane which in turn contextualizes her writing in the comic proper.
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>>154653401
It's the least exciting answer but it would be easy to just say "Sue, I know what you're trying to do but it's not gonna work, I'm out."
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>>154653591
In that case there's still comparisons, both are needlessly hostile "out of boredom", both are impulsive, both have a tendency of having someone on their side making excuses for them (Daisy and Mike) that they refuse to take seriously, in Mike's particular case neither has any respect for him despite how much they "need him" (Lucy constantly berates him and Paulo wipes his ass with his things), and both can't take what they dish (Lucy will explode and yell where Paulo will cry and shit himself)
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>>154653591
>i feel like a lot of people in these threads would benefit from just ignoring Taeshi's blog posts entirely.
Just as the real joy of painting is in huffing it, the real joy of BCB is the ragebait blog posts.
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>>154653591
I'm sure the people that went through the comic with no meta interaction mostly dropped it out of frustration, also the author comments are not much better
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>>154653688
>In that case there's still comparisons
see >>154653416, not denying they have similarities, but as characters they just do not behave in a sufficiently similar way to be described as versions of each other. they're written very differently - how intentional that is i have genuinely no idea.
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>>154653724
Most people dropped it long time ago.
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>>154653724
oh i should have been clearer - by "ignoring Taeshi's blog posts" i also mean ignoring her comments.
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>>154653048
Why does David get a profile and Sue doesn't? Sue is substantially more significant to the story.
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>>154652250
I guess Lucy did deal with Augustus' phone, after all
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>>154652964
>>154653048
>>154653279
Sandy is so unbelievably based.
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I'm torn between whether this is Taeshi pity-begging for her fursona or trying to make Lucy not look pathetic for running to Mike.
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>>154653913
rachel having her own profile makes me think that taeshi picked the ones that would get fanart
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>>154654023
I'm surprised she put Abbey over Sue, considering he doesn't really figure outside of lifting Paulo up right now, but I guess there's more fanart of him with Paulo than there's of Sue>>154654023
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>>154654043
Maybe Taeshi's salty that the tumblr fans were on Sue's side rather than enjoying the Pauloshow as intended.
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>>154653401
You could cause so much trouble around the play that it becomes sunk cost for Sue to keep it going.
> I got Paulo and David to work stagehand! David keeps talking about pyrotechnics so he should be a good match!
> Hey, Sue, I noticed you made a slip-up on page 2, you should change it.
> Did I say you should change it? I'm sorry I don't think I did.
> I invited Sandy to opening night! I think she and Lucy could be really good friends.
> Jess, I just think you have a better understanding of the characters. maybe you should see if you can rewrite some of it.
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>Get hidden mic and record Lucy giving Polo a bj
>Release it when the play starts
There. At least be vicious.
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>>154654282
They had sex
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>>154654368
It's funnier to believe Paulo came all over Lucy before he could get it in.
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>>154654443
Are we still on this weird cope?
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>>154654443
What about the word "funnier" do you not understand?
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>>154654551
Meant for >>154654498
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>>154654443
>W-wouldn't it be hilarious if Lucy was still a pure virgin haha
Whatever you say buddy.
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>>154654043
no offense to this artist but sue looks baked out of her fuckin mind
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>>154654443
Accepting Lucy is used goods is funnier because the reader knows she was Paulo's backup option after Tess and Daisy.
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>>154654565
>mock Paulo
>sperg landclaims Lucy's cavernous vagina
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>>154654651
This is potentially true, and I am torn about which angle to go with. Which cat deserves mockery over the other?
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>>154654551
We've established that the funny part is that Lucy had dead-fish pity sex with Paulo, and found it so disappointing she committed to killing herself.
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>>154654684
Why one part? Why not several? I believe in compounding humor.
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>>154654710
Because one actually happened and the other is your cope fanfiction
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>>154654663
we literally have the word of the demiurge saying Lucy's not a virgin, so one of the two angles kinda just makes one look a bit retarded (see: whatever the fuck >>154654654 is on about). if it's funnier, it's at your own expense, not either character's.

>>154654684
perhaps Paulo thought about Mike while having sex with dead fish Lucy and came instantly, Lucy picked up on it with her psychic powers, and that's REALLY why she tried to sudoku.

probably thought she'd gotten AIDS from the most homosexual cat alive
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>>154654742
>>154654785
It's a joke, you absolute sperg. The only people who have any reason to get upset about this are salty Paulostans who think Lucy's hymen is some trophy to be mounted on a wall.
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>>154652615
>she must always be MINE muahahaha
>>154653048
>I just don't wanna think about him with other girls nbd uwu

Can we just get to the scene where she tries siphoning Mike's life force again so I can go back on bcb hiatus? How'd this dreck drag me back, damn.
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>>154654832
I'm only here for the vague possibility that Lucy runs to Mike and gets told to fuck off, if more politely than that.
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>>154654830
>It's a joke says the guy who aggressively defends Lucy's virginity at every opportunity
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>>154654870
I would have simply not self-reported like that.
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>>154654830
i'm not >>154654742

you sound suspiciously jealous of a drawing of a cat. it's a little odd.

>>154654864
how many times do you need to be burned to realize "Mike grand revenge tour" ain't ever happening, anon? you gotta let it go, for your own sake.
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>>154654830
>The anons joking that sex with Paulo made Lucy kill herself are paulostans
Do you really believe that, or are you just fishing for another pointless argument?
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>>154654892
How the hell would Mike telling Lucy to fuck off be a revenge tour? That would literally be a follow-up to LITS, after Lucy and friends specially told him to stay outside.
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>>154654919
i don't think you get just how removed Mike's spine is. dude's a jellyfish now.
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>>154654443
It's wild a character as outwardly slutty as Lucy still has simps demanding she's a virgin.
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>>154654915
What I believe is that you should reread the post you are replying to.
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I will continue to imply that Paulo never fucked Lucy.
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>>154655042
We know lol
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>>154655053
It is both humorous because I get to mock Paulo but also because of how much salty projection it generates.
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Can this thread fucking die already?
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>>154655090
What if, and I know this is a wild thought: What if you came up with something worth talking about? I know, that's a real tall order. It might even take a little effort.
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>>154655065
In reality you just crash out every time it's brought up.
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>>154653267
>MC uses out-of-context-knowledge to immediately solve problems" is the least interesting part of any isekai.
Fuck you. I want a happy ending for Mike(me?) and Lucy. I would go for Rachel or that gamer girl that was into MMOs tho.
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>>154654915
Nothing happened this page, so the resident sperg had to try and start an argument to keep the thread going. "Lucy never fucked Paulo" is a favorite argument-starter of his.
He loathes Paulo like nobody else. More than he hates Lucy, more than he hates Taeshi. The slightest suggestion that Paulo got further with Lucy than Mike has makes him apoplectic, because he IS the Mikefag that gives other Mikefags a shitty reputation that they don't deserve.
>>154655090
When nobody bites he'll just reply to himself and bump the thread. Probably embarrassed that he let Monday's thread die, so he's doubling down on this one.
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>>154652615
Unfortunately we don't get an insight in Augustus and Rachel's current relationship. Is she hitting on him/fucking him?
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>>154652887
I usually dislike replacing characters mind with (You) in fics since
>It's character assassination
>It removes most of the stakes and (former) agendas
You'd be better off merging them both to create at least some tension.
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>>154655163
>but also because of how much salty projection it generates
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>>154655169
Now this is fanfiction.
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>>154655119
Ok, so what do you wanna talk about? We could bitch and moan about.
>Cast aspirations outside of High School
>Hobbeis & Interest each have that could springboard into arcs or interactions between characters not involving the white cats
>What could spur Taeshi to actually sue the Alej button
>How to prevent Mike from ever being connected to Lucy again, but also maintain a "friendship".
>How to break up with Sandy without some gaslight and guilt tripping BS causing Miek to consider her shit for the 3rd time.
>Why does Paulo insist that Mike should get wiht Lucy despite being very aware of their shared history of Lucy abusing Mike and telling Mike to tell Lucy to fuck off forever.
>Why was Lucy's galsighting during LITS treated as correct when it blatantly showed moments where Lucy's cruelty was on full display?
>>154655169
NTA, but I fucking hate Paulo too. I think he is an awful best friend & that Mike should seek friendship with others vs treating the table mates as some close tribe.
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The art fight stuff is just more proof that the version of BCB Taeshi thinks she put onto the pages and the version that she actually puts out are two different things.

It's either from different eras, from plot hole answer patches she makes up on the tumblr blog, or just not in the comic in any form at all.

The mike stuff is like, man. I don't mind Mike being a flawed character. He absolutely is. BUt the way she heaps shit on him is just horrible. It's not even shit she shows in the actual comic. She can't seem to connect the dots that this is why she ends up with people hating Mike more than she'd like.

Also how did she end up leaving Sue out of all of these?

>>154652964
>Mike and David

It's on track considering the movie chapter's end and LitS but she seems afraid to blatantly lean into this in the actual comic. My guess is that it keeps David from being the "Lol so random XD" guy she keeps him as that can be a plot device when she needs it. It would also mean that Paulo and David would have to clash over this because Paulo, at least currently, would be pissed at what David did outside during that event.
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>>154653048
David is the reason Paulo fumbled Tess + Lucy HARD and had a totally harmless encounter with a lesbian. Also David was mad/disappointed Paulo didn't take advantage of Lucy when she was trying for the Paulo D in a desperate state.

But what do I know, is not like I read the comic or anything
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>>154655225
>Why does Paulo insist that Mike should get wiht Lucy despite being very aware of their shared history of Lucy abusing Mike and telling Mike to tell Lucy to fuck off forever
I do think this is kind of underexplored. Anons mostly expressed baffled outrage at how fucking stupid Paulo must be to even think this, but perhaps we could sit back and mull over his perspective. Does Paulo really understand Mike's problems with Lucy? Did he ever take them seriously? Are these qualities that Paulo finds or found attractive about Lucy? Now, on the other hand, Mike did tell the group how he Decembered Lucy, and Paulo knows bow cat tried to kill herself. It's not hard to put two and two together. Does he know she'd bounce on Mike's dick given the chance? Why would he think that's a good thing?
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>>154655225
>NTA, but I fucking hate Paulo too.
Unless every time you see the name Paulo it activates you like a sleeper agent to sperg out in the thread about how much you hate him, he's got you outmatched in Paulo hatred.
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>>154655042
>won't stop coping
You'll make it through stage three, I have faith in you.
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>>154655186
You could always act as the Angel on his shoulder and try to convince/manipulate Mike. Think about it this way: there are a lot of moments where Mike isn't with someone & you know things about him that he wouldn't or couldn't admit to feeling. You don’t even need Sandy to set Mike off, just irritate him and tell him every punch & every kick from him isn't her walls, it's her showing how little she cares about you since she hurts you. Either convince him to snitch to his parents or make him stop the abuse himself. Dissuade him from December and even get him to date one of the local girls, so Luccy and his friend can't just pressure him. SO many wonderful things can occur with just a few nudges in the right direction, anon. Oh, and you’ll probably end up fighting Taeshi if she is still in the fic.

Oh, and accept you might drive him a little crazy doing this. Sorta like pic but nicer.
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>>154652615
These both are off the mark because Mike would accept it even if they were just friends again. He's not hung up on lucy like that romantically and has stayed out of her way most of the time.

If Lucy loved him then that makes her actions during Line in the Sand extra retarded because she just ruined this man's social life. What is the follow up to this? Her family hates him, he's been exiled from his friend group, he basically has nothing because for all he knows Augustus could spread some shit ass rumors.

"Oh but I love him!" nah, this is just telling people she's psychotic.
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>>154655282
Stop having such a pissy victim complex for a cartoon cat. I don't even hate Paulo.
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>>154653048
>I have no real beef with you.

What is this bold faced lie?
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>>154654080
Wasnt she mad when people were calling sue bitchy? Saying they should have empathy for her?
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>>154655174
>Is she hitting on him/fucking him?
she's only hitting on him, don't forget taeshi made augustus borderline asexual because she kept the augustus/lucy relationship platonic and if augustus wouldn't want to fuck lucy, why would he want to fuck someone else?
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>>154652964
Mike's possessive lines actually feel so OUT of character. How can the Author of said character write something that feels so ooc??
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>>154655386
Cause she projects Lucy's sins onto Mike.
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>>154655279
There's an angle here where Paulo is nostalgic for the friendship the four used to have, so he's mainly trying to mend a rift between Mike and Lucy that he doesn't understand the depth of... probably mostly because Mike hasn't been open with him about it and Lucy would never tell him in the first place. There's also the fact that Paulo's just right about Sandy at this point, and the first option Paulo can think of so that Mike isn't lonely after he breaks up with Sandy is Lucy. Pursuant to the "if you were Mike" fanfic/strategy discussion, I think Mike really needs to have that "I'm just Lucy's teddy bear" conversation with Paulo rather than some meaningless background character, and I don't think Mike's ever done that.
Then again, character analysis is tricky when the writer is this bad at putting their intentions into the story.
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>>154655303
>If Lucy loved him then that makes her actions during Line in the Sand extra retarded because she just ruined this man's social life
I guess Lucy might believe that Mike is a big boy who can take it. But that's still pretty fucking spiteful of her. If we take this to mirror December, I wasn't seeing much love from Mike back when he torched Lucy's self-worth with a flamethrower. There's an argument to be made that he tried to quash the leftover flicker of affection yet held for bow cat, and that maybe Lucy did something similar in LitS. But most of what I saw in both cases was actual hate.
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>>154655279
The same reason Abbey forgave Paulo after At least your mother fucking loved you. It's explicitly ooc to enable the narrative choice.
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>>154655386
NTA, but refer to >>154652917

>>154655364
Fuck, is this why she neutered Mike, too? I'd never made that connection.
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>>154655396
>I think Mike really needs to have that "I'm just Lucy's teddy bear" conversation with Paulo rather than some meaningless background character
You know, I do wonder how Paulo would respond to that. Would he take the idea seriously or try to downplay it?
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>>154655279
>I do think this is kind of underexplored. Anons mostly expressed baffled outrage at how fucking stupid Paulo must be to even think this, but perhaps we could sit back and mull over his perspective. Does Paulo really understand Mike's problems with Lucy?
Did he ever take them seriously? Are these qualities that Paulo finds or found attractive about Lucy?
I think Paulo saw what was happening but because he saw how Lucy would care about him when he wasn't around , and how it had been like that for years, He probably didn't think much of it. IIRC when he and daisy are talking about sandy cheating, he has a panel where he says he wishes things could go back to normal. That normal being Lucy being tsundere and Mike just putting up with it because "he's nice guy Mike! He's supposed to do that!"

I also think he d id find them attractive on some level and due to having a certain level of asshole in him, he probably figured he could deal with it. I think eventually he'd bow out to because someone would tell him that people that love eachother don't let the person they love physically beat on them. That's if he didn't come to the conclusion himself.


>Now, on the other hand, Mike did tell the group how he Decembered Lucy, and Paulo knows bow cat tried to kill herself. It's not hard to put two and two together. Does he know she'd bounce on Mike's dick given the chance? Why would he think that's a good thing?


The problem with the suicide attempt is that Taeshi fumbled the in universe reveal incredibly hard. Even if the others didn't connect the dots, Paulo would have. But the fallout from a nuke like "Mike you made Lucy try to kill herself!" would be permanently disasterous. At minimum, the group would never accept Mike back and Taeshi seems to hate the idea of Mike getting out of their range so he'd never have to deal with them again.

So its in this weird state of "Every one knows she tried to take her own life but nobody can figure out how."
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>>154655400
>I guess Lucy might believe that Mike is a big boy who can take it. But that's still pretty fucking spiteful of her. If we take this to mirror December, I wasn't seeing much love from Mike back when he torched Lucy's self-worth with a flamethrower. There's an argument to be made that he tried to quash the leftover flicker of affection yet held for bow cat, and that maybe Lucy did something similar in LitS. But most of what I saw in both cases was actual hate.


Taeshi trying to force the december parallels has never worked. The best chance she had for it was when Mike was pissing his friends off in the sperg era but she never pulled the trigger.

Lucy being spiteful would work if Taeshi didn't try so hard to defend her and give her outs. Instead of her going "yeah, lucy is doing this and its bad flat out." she tries to end the chapter with "See? Lucy did it all for augustus!"

>>154655423
In theory, after everything that's happened, current Paulo would take it seriously. But with how Taeshi writes characters to suit the situation so she can make certain things happen, the odds of him downplaying it and shitting on Mike are not very high but they're higher than they should ever be for it.
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>>154655418
>is this why she neutered Mike, too?
I mean why wouldn't it, if taeshi could lucy would be everyone's oneitis
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>>154655423
It depends on what era of Paulo's character you're talking about, but these days it would probably go along the lines of a lot of things finally clicking into place in Paulo's head about why Mike "tolerates" "being with Sandy" the way that he does - something Paulo has expressed multiple times he doesn't understand. It may also make Paulo realize more about the way he was also treated by Lucy, and realize that she wasn't just treating him that way because she wanted Mike; she treats Mike with an even higher level of possessive objectification.
All of that could fly out the window depending on Taeshi's mood. It's tricky to know how it would play out if Taeshi tried to write something like it on purpose.
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>now you have to be careful about what you talk about because there's an angry autist that appears to instigate arguments and name-call everyone if you even imply something he doesn't agree with
/v/ is not sending their best
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>>154655400
>I guess Lucy might believe that Mike is a big boy who can take it.
Isn't that attitude the exact thing that caused the falling out in the first place, since that cope is just used to jsutify lucy's physical abuse.
.But most of what I saw in both cases was actual hate.
I would say for Mike is was a mix of projection plus scorched earth since Mike revealed he feels alone, so he just projected what would happen to him via a friend split onto Lucy.

We know Mike hasn't hit Lucy, as she hit him, so it was pretty much just all that rage released back, but verbally, since before that, he mostly made mean remarks and stayed away from her as much as possible.
>>154655424
I stand by that I don't blame Mike for Lucy's suicide attempt despite all attempts to lay the act on his feet & December. She genuinely does not care about her support and friends, even before December, despite the outstretched hands. It is only made worse by the fact that the more Taeshi ties this distrust to the confrontation, the worse Lucy looks.

Plus the fact that Lucy was diestoriating before everyone's eyes prior, and literally her family didn't try to pry.
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>>154655541
>anon who blogposts in every thread but refuses to actually quote who he's talking about
The gang's all here
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>>154655583
>Isn't that attitude the exact thing that caused the falling out in the first place
Yes
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>>154655583
>I stand by that I don't blame Mike for Lucy's suicide attempt despite all attempts to lay the act on his feet & December. She genuinely does not care about her support and friends, even before December, despite the outstretched hands. It is only made worse by the fact that the more Taeshi ties this distrust to the confrontation, the worse Lucy looks.
>Plus the fact that Lucy was diestoriating before everyone's eyes prior, and literally her family didn't try to pry.


Narratively, blaming Mike could work. But it would require the narrative to show that everyone doing this is wrong because it's easier to just push all of her mental state onto Mike instead of wondering if they missed and messed up along the way. The comic doesn't do that, though.

It basically says "Mike's life would be better if he didn't complain and just took the abuse for the rest of his life without objection." Because his life has just been a downward spiral since then. It's tried very hard to erase any actual fault Lucy had in the fallout because taeshi keeps retconning things.
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>>154655225
>>Cast aspirations outside of High School
It's funny that the further away you get from the Mucy the better of an idea you have of how they want to live their lives out of high school. Mike is apparently content to be a househusband with Sandy in FITR, but I've got no clue what he'd do in the Pucy future. Same with Lucy, she's apparently got some job in FITR but I can't even guess based on her hobbies/skills what she might be doing.
Daisy wants to be a doctor, Paulo's expecting to freet around, and they're gonna reconcile those two lifestyles by [BSOD NOISE]
Sue and Abbey I could easily see entering politics or becoming lawyers or something like that.
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>>154655583
>Isn't that attitude the exact thing that caused the falling out in the first place
Lucy does not readily learn from experience. Taeshi may not even view it as a lesson to learn, anymore. Which is a shame, because otherwise there might be some narrative merit.
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>>154655645
Lucy made some noises about wanting to be a nurse in Grave Concern but oh fuck no I would not want her taking care of anyone. We were told forever ago that Mike's good at English and he used to read a lot, so mayhaps a writing career is in the cards.
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>>154655168
You can have a happy ending, but you need the path there to be a little more complex than "I know all the answers ahead of time so I do everything right". A story needs to have something for the protagonist to do. Whether that means having to cope with unforeseen consequences, situations that require skills or techniques they don't already know, or just needing to put in effort.

>>154655225
NTA, but I want to mention how weird and fucked up Taeshi's writing around consent and respect is, framing it as "lame nerd shit" that the cool kids don't bother with and actively mock. I want to reinforce that point by bringing up that Taeshi commissioned at least one rapefic. Then I will make a wild leap, and point out that she's written Lucy as:
>traumatized over her friends making a few slightly backhanded comments
>having dreams about this in which Alejandro says "Don't worry. You'll always have me." (the exact words Lucy wants to hear; variations of that phrase/sentiment are what made her "fall in love" with Mike, Paulo, and Augustus)
>actively seeking out and engaging with things that are implied to trigger her Confrontation trauma (Augustus's phone, gripping/hugging her shoulders, tactical flirting, Augustus himself, her friends)
>utterly deranged in her pursuit of male attention
>really really likes when she loses the fights she picks and finds it incredibly hot
And tentatively note that Taeshi has made comments that could, potentially, be interpreted as sly wink-nudges to Second Confrontation, and has made several direct references to "hiding her powerlevel". I will conclude with a sincere question: am I completely schizo and too deep into the ironic shitposts to realize it? Or is it legitimate to be worried about where this is going?
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>>154655583
>isn't that attitude the exact thing that caused the falling out in the first place
A lot, yes. Mike started coping that Lucy was just mean on the outside and as his oldest (and only) friend if he opened she would have to open too, but that never happened, Lucy can be tender but not with him. Then he tried to force her to open by confession, get her to act, and it didn't work either, she kept the walls high up for him while giving others like Paulo way better treatment. You can see it gets to a point where it's obvious Lucy can be nice and tender and fun, but not to him, because he's held at this unspoken standard that gets him hurt constantly. This is evident even before Sandy comes into the picture
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>>154652964
Fuck it, make Maisy a thing
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>>154655845
You're a little schizo but I really enjoy these posts so keep digging
Also
>Paulo says he's going to feel bad about ruining Lucy's perfect little body in Another Shoulder which is a direct quote of Alejandro
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>>154655225
Neither of those anons, but I carry the motion of hating Paulo. He genuinely is everything he's been accused of: dumb, sexist, mean, womanizing, selfish, unrepentant, a fuckboy, and a bully. But he's "fun" and has "boyish charm", so all that's just haters, (you) should still like him. Even though every time it looks like he's learned or had some kind of epiphany, it's the setup to a rugpull where Paulo proves he's still a dick.

>>154655343
Ostensibly, but she was also all passive-aggressive and dismissive of the people saying "this is kind of fucked up and unfair, what with Lucy and Paulo putting Sue on the spot like that and the challenges all being weighted to Paulo". She made several posts basically going "It's not that deep, Paulo's just a fun guy, why are you mad".
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>>154655868
we all know what Daisy really wants is to be in the cuck chair watching Maulo
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>>154655868
One reason (among many) why Paisy sucks is that it renders Maisy the more entertaining option. I wouldn't expect Maisy to be all that interesting, but it sure would feel more genuine and have an actual cuteness factor.
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>>154655845
Well, Taeshi wouldn't exactly be the first woman to get off on being dominated.
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>>154655845
There is something fucked up about Lucy (and perhaps Taeshi) and consent, yes, she has trouble balancing her "assholes are fun" thing with "assholes can be dangerous" which is Alejandro, you'll have many scenes of Paulo groping or getting handsy with Lucy (and this includes the night of the play) where you're supposed to see it as playful and hot, or at least not give it a negative connotation, but then you have to take Lucy's traumas seriously where it's actually a bad thing, where she dislikes being touched, where she feels judged and defenseless. It's the kind of mismatch Tae has never been able to work with, same as the slapstick/abuse situation. Perhaps being an abuse victim herself gives her a different perspective, she's known to joke about it
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>>154656057
A BPD individual with an off-and-on domination fetish sounds like a nightmare to deal with.
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>>154655868
>>154655982
>Paulo is reluctant to get intimate with Daisy because of his lingering confusion about his feeling for Mike
>Daisy is rushing things to try and drown out the same
>both remember Mike is at his lowest point and would probably cave to pick up attempts if it meant receiving any genuine affection
>Maisaulo is created, Lucy seethes from the bushes
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>>154656075
everything gets better if you just cut Lucy out of the picture
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>>154656092
Do you want the Paulo show? Because that's how you get the Paulo show
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>>154655845
Reminder Taeshi met Suitcase when his name was Souppy, they changed his username to Suitcase because Taeshi got raped inside a suitcase as a kid and she fetishizes it, they likely both fetishize it considering suit is a lolicon
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>>154653036
What even are some big name artists that she wants to see do fanart of her comic?
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>>154656075
It's truly the happy ending for all three of them. And Lucy can finally be with her one true love, Alejandro.
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>>154656011
Maisy at least has the light spice of Daisy getting a desperately-needed win. Even if they break up and Mike goes back to one of the whitecats, Daisy would always know she got one over on Lucy & Sandy, and that's what they get for looking down on her.
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>>154656075
How would this solve the problems of Paulo being a lousy lover, Daisy being a thirst queen who flips between honeymoon periods and grass-is-greener syndrome, and Mike having no spine?
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>>154653956
It really is comedic just how massive of a powerlevel Taeshi can't help but give her. She hasn't even physically appeared in the comic in years and yet her presence is such that even Lucyspace must falter and break before it.
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>>154656183
Solve problems?
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>>154656166
>she got one over Lucy and Sandy
Oooor they become asexuals for the duration of the relationship, looking at her track record
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>>154656183
Very simple, anon:
>Paulo gets to pipe and get piped by Mike like he clearly wants
>Daisy satisfies herself by cucking Mike, Paulo, or both as she sees fit
>Mike's asexual ass goes along with whatever and just vegetates and vibes with his video games in their shared house when he's not in use
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>>154654023
I'd think Sue would be more fanartable than David, since David's design is rather bland while Sue at least has her necklace.
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>>154656166
Daisy netting a temporary victory in the Mike Bowl would require that Taeshi puts aside her Goldiemalding for a spell. Perhaps while attempting to prove that she is not obsessed (assuming her fans ever caught on). But I don't think that could last and she would try to minimize Daisy's achievement in the aftermath.
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>>154656306
I wonder if Sue is an old shame of Taeshi's, or if she harbors some insane grudge because Sue used to enjoy Lucy's place wayyyyyyy back in the pre-proto-BCB days.
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>>154656183
If you mean lousy as a partner, Taeshi's made him mature enough to be boring in Paisy. If you mean lousy in bed, Taeshi has continually implied quite the opposite, you fell for /bcb/ memes.

But ignoring that, if he's lousy in bed with women it's because he is simply TOO homosexual. He'd treat Mike right in bed at the very least.

As for Daisy, she WILL fry her brain into fujo overload at the earliest opportunity in such a scenario, and then nothing else will ever compete.

As for Mike, see >>154656293 except add Paulo and Daisy slowly nurturing his sexuality back to health (and since they both actually care about him, they won't immediately stab him in the back like James did).
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>>154656183
>Paulo being a lousy lover
He now has backup to finish what he started
>Daisy flip-flopping
She now has two approved targets to flip between
>Mike
Who cares about Mike
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>>154656348
I mean lousy in that he consistently does not bring to the table something his partner wants/needs, as is painfully evident with Paisy.
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>>154655400
>There's an argument to be made that he tried to quash the leftover flicker of affection yet held for bow cat
That's absolutely what he is doing, combined with having a genuinely deserved crashout. He had to mentally steel himself before he could even commit to Decembering her, and even then he was weeping for a lot of it.
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>>154656306
>David's design is rather bland while Sue at least has her necklace.
don't forget her hair, but david having a boring design just means he's easier to draw, not that any bcb is actually that complicated
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>>154656342
Sue is the biggest collateral casualty of the fan character purge. Wherever Kizuna couldn't be replaced with Katie (who is completely irrelevant and thus easy to slot in), Kizuna was replaced with Sue, despite Sue being a very different character. Taeshi still has a lot of resentment towards the Kizuna drama, so Sue is probably suffering as a Kizuna/Kizuna's creator proxy.

You might be onto something here with shame over pre-proto-BCB, but Kizuna is the fresher wound.

>>154656385
1. Relationships don't need to be that transactional.
2. He brings a hot body. That's enough for a lot of these characters, and plenty of them want/need that.
3. He's now emotionally mature enough to bring emotional support as well. He doesn't even really struggle to do it. That might be one of the things that makes Paisy so boring.
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>>154656467
Transactional? I'm talking about basic incompatibility.
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>>154656467
>Taeshi still has a lot of resentment towards the Kizuna drama
I'm a new reader, please educate me on the the Kizuna drama. I know she was a fan character who was very clumsy and head over heels in love with David.
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>>154655298
I do wonder if I could steer Mike on a better path with the strategic use of Darkest Dungeon quotes throughout his life. Every time he's suffering a major mental blow, "Many might fall in the face of Chaos. But not you, not today."
>>154655585
Untrue, I had not yet joined the fray.
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>>154656525
That's the way Taeshi wrote Kizuna, but Kizuna's creator apparently did not like the way Kizuna was being written by Taeshi. Arguments and animosity later, Taeshi decides to ignore all fan characters going forward. Carter, who was barely a character, was easy to remove, but Kizuna was well-integrated into the cast. Kizuna used to occupy the seat at the "lunch table" club that is now occupied by Sue. In order to fully remove Kizuna, she re-wrote Kizuna out of all her appearances by replacing her with either Katie (who suddenly and inexplicably became infatuated with David) or Sue (who became an incompetent, fragile klutz).

McCain is also a fan character, but Taeshi has carte blanche permission from McCain's creator to use McCain however she wants. She never bothered to go back and rewrite another character into McCain's role like she did with Kizuna, so he's still in BCB but he fades to the background and has escaped the pull of Lucyspace at this point. One of Sue's biggest ships is with McCain, so Sue still lost out from this as well.

This is also the reason that nobody at the table seems to actually like David. There's no reason for any of them to tolerate him if Kizuna isn't there, since Sue doesn't like him and Katie doesn't sit at the lunch table.
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>>154652964
>We're friends! It's fun! He's really nice!
>I'm glad we're friends
How much do I have to pay Taeshi to make a chapter that's just Mike and Abbey hanging out and enjoying each other's amicable company? No drama, no whitecat, just two guys having fun with their friend.
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>>154656663
Oh, so she was a major character. I thought she was just a side character who occasionally showed up like Jessica or Madison. I should really read the archived version of the comic and see just how uncanny valley it is from the current version.
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>>154656717
>I should really read the archived version of the comic and see just how uncanny valley it is from the current version.
Is the first version even available anywhere online
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>>154656831
>Is the first version even available anywhere online
Allegedly, club members have access to the original pages.
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>>154656831
>>154656956
There was also an archive posted here at one point that included a lot of now-deleted tumblr posts.
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>>154652964
>>>154653048
>>154652964
>>154652785
>>154652615
she's 100% fucking with us right
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>>154657152
She's putting the version of the characters she's been pushing on the blog for a fresh audience that doesn't have the context to know it's bullshit. Anyway artfight tends to be more of a popularity contest behind doors so I doubt anyone that doesn't know about the comic is going to draw for Taeshi with such banger designs as cat#3, cat#6 and dog. Rachel is probably her only strong bet
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>>154657575
Augustus too maybe, his design is actually kinda good too.
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>>154656831
Yeah, bottom of the "Archive" page on the website. They aren't the VERY first version, but they do have kizuna and the fancharacters and all.
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>>154652785
Fat Cat deserves to go nuclear on White Cat.
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>>154657575
Man, I miss those AI videos that anon was making, they were really good
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>>154657152
No. Shes been trying to push this narrative for the longest. Thats why the older pages get edits and thats why the blog answers sound the way they do.
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>>154656684
I could create an artfight account and draw them for Taeshi :)
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>>154657575
Some of them are new pushes, but plenty are ancient outdated relationship dynamics.
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>>154659309
daisy hitting lucy with an instantly lethal body slam
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>>154659587
>I could create an artfight account and draw them for Taeshi :)
A little mischievous idea is forming from this: a drawing-anon person attacks Taeshi, so Taeshi will probably retaliate with a drawing of a character from the drawing-anon profile. So, if the only character on their profile is Amy, and Taeshi shouldn't even know about Amy, so there's a chance she won't realize she came from here, then we'd have a drawing of Amy by Taeshi, kek.
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>>154655982
Daisy craves to have Mike's children. Nerely watching is not enough.

They should all learn to share. There's plenty of Mike to go around.
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>>154659844
>Pic
Sandy, being the only one, shows complete confidence in her role. It's incredible how she always mogged the other "rivals."



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