Princess Sally Acorn is a awful character. She is almost as bad as Trixie Tang.
>>154687813Can you at least stick to one thread at a time, schizo?
>>154687830No as I need to spread my message
>>154687813>She is almost as bad as Trixie Tang.Nah, Sally is way, way worseAlmost as bad as those garbage UK sonic comic
>>154687841Fuck you tranny. Now go back to liking Fop and Camp Troonwood.
You've overlooked that she has large breasts.
>>154687855Who cares about things like that. Amy is better.
She's fine in the cartoon (Sonic is much more annoying). She's only a problem in the comic which is a symptom of it being a gay soap opera rather than the problem itself.
>>154687837>doesn't deny being schizobaby steps, I suppose
>>154687864No she's also bad in SatAM because it doesn't understand the true Sonic canon.
>>154687837You have never gotten a single positive response in any of your schizo threads. The only "message" you've sent is that you're a complete lunatic, and you've actually increased Sherwood's popularity because everyone's reading it to see just how insane you are.
>>154687871I don't have schizophrenia
>>154687887No stop lying Brian Davis
>>154687863>>154687855>>154687813Tails is better.https://www.deviantart.com/sonicprimearena/art/Sonic-Tails-comic-Goofy-meme-1354260019
>>154687914He is but why they did make Tails become a tranny like Timantha.
>>154687914Aahhhh ze French.
>>154687813Someone draw Trixie in Sally's outfit.
>>154687969Please no
>>154687969Please yes
>>154688055NO
>>154688080YES
This is a weird Sally Acorn thread
>>154688093I AM GOING TO KILL YOU WITH SPONGEBOB
>>154687813still better than any current female Sonic Team character
>>154688126Shut up Sonic SatAM/Underground/Archiefag .You probably support Tex Wattson.
>>154687849Fairly oddparents is a trash show for trash people by a trash artist, and caring about it in the slightest is a sign of severe mental illnessCaring about it as much as you do is a signal that you're a troon to end all troons
>>154688143Not even kind of
>>154688200yes
>>154688167I care about because it gave birth to Timantha which I need to destroy.
>>154688143She is the same level of badness
>>154688226So you admit to being mentally illAcceptance is the first step
>>154688245Sonic is bad to begin with.
>>154688126>Archie SallyEw eww and ewwww tranny detected. Tell Elias to stop wearing her sister's wig. NICE EYEBROWS, FAGGOT.You make Tailsko look like a legit woman.
>>154688393Where's the one with square eyebrows?
>>154688339I'm not mentally ill>>154688388Sonic is cool
How could she be awful when she is so sexy?
>>154688480No she's not
>>154688480Anon... you're thinking with your dick...Anon... stop thinking with your dick.Unless it's rule63 Tails. DO IT FOR HER. THINK WITH YOUR DICKhttps://www.deviantart.com/sonicprimearena/art/Sonic-Tails-comic-Goofy-meme-1354260019
>>154688221No. The only one you have an argument for is like the burgershop gitl from SA1.
>>154688427>Sonic is coolnot cooler than Shadow!
>>154688527Stop being gay.
Someone ahoukd draw a picture of Sally Acorn and Trixie Tang swapping outfits.
>>154688543No, you stop being gay.
>>154688427>I'm not mentally illYou are if you care about FOP in any capacityWhich you said you doSo, you are mentally illSeek help
>>154688541No because he is from Modern Sonic>>154688543Hey that's homophobic>>154688552NO>>154688644No I'm not mentally ill
>>154688821me on the right
>>154688821This is a awful scene
>>154688881it is awful as that should be me in place of Tails
>>154688821Geez, the kid got way more Sally action than Sonic did.
Posting this sally redesign I did
>>154689028No
>>154689142
>>154689158I actually kinda like this drawing as it's based on STC Sally
>>154689152yes
>>154689063canon and true
>>154689221They technically both are with the faces, the fact that she’s a squirrel news reporter, and the bow. I imagine her being the leader of an underground news site if she wasn’t the leader of a resistance, trying to find corruption and report on it if not stop it altogether.
>Naoto Oshima, Yuji Naka, and Hirokazu Yasuhara only worked together in one Sonic game
>>154691124Who asked?
>>154689063This series didn't commit to the "will they, won't they" thing and in some episodes they're openly interested but too busy with the war.
>>154687813I don't care what people think of her, She's hot and Kath Soucie's voice sold this character hard!
>>154687813Why is she a squirrel if her tail is that stubby?
Jim Cummings and Charlie Adler are an entertaining duo
>>154691414>Why is she a squirrel if her tail is that stubby?SatAM Sally's a fox.
>>154691547She's some kind of chipmunk.Her being a fox would not give her a small tail.I'm sure you're the anon who constantly edits her to be a fox in comic screenshots for seemingly no reason.
>>154687813>unprovoked raging at a character no one was talking aboutIs this behavior normal?
>>154691414I think she's a chipmunk.
>>154691616Something about Sonic seems to attract raging turbo-tards.
>>154691600>She's some kind of chipmunk.In Archie. Not SatAM.>Her being a fox would not give her a small tail.Unless she lost it or it's a birth defect. Happens to foxes plenty. And her dad's a confirmed fox.
>Tails doesn't fly once in Season 1
>>154691679>And her dad's a confirmed fox.DiC should have been given drawing lessons.
>>154691679>And her dad's a confirmed fox.Who also has Sally's supposedly chipmunk features. Only thing he's lacking is her red hair.
>>154691711Can't you see his tail? Looks just like Tails'
You'd think Sega would choose a different studio than DIC, who already did a weak job with the Mario and Zelda cartoons
Let’s name this fox Sally Acorn!
>>154691768That's my point.>sally and tails share the same ears>sally and the king share the same face>tails and the king share the same tailNone of them are consistent.>>154691900This one makes 100% sense.
>>154691900>Original DiC Sally was a human princess(because Madonna)>Who was turned into a squirrel(because Sonic can't date humans)>Who was turned into a pink hedgehog(because Amy)>who was turned into a pink squirrel>and finally a fox
>>154691993They fursona'd that design into this.
>>154691616>NOOOOOO!!!! You aren't allowed to make a thread with a topic revolving around a character you don't like! Midwit.
>>154691993>because Sonic can't date humansA shame about what happened a decade later.What was the cat with the fish who Sonic chased after unsuccessfully in the pilot trailer?
>>154691993Where’s the part where she turns into a fox?
>>154692051>Where’s the part where she turns into a fox?In the released show.
>>154687813All the freedom fighters sucks. They didn't have super abilites like Sonic and Tails. Just generic semi realistic military skills.
>>154692132my theory is that when two different species have kids, the kids are the same species as the mother, kinda like in pokemon, I dunno.
>>154688842Shadow is cooler than both classic and modern Sonic
>>154692349BASED and CANON
>>154692037You don't see me making threads out of the blue about how I want to flog Peggy Hill every time she acts smug.
>>154692346No, Hurst means it's cartoon rules where the kids end up as either species. Just like Sonic and Sally's kids.
>>154689063>Tailsfags not be delusional losers challenge impossible
>>154687813Princess Sally Acorn is a character in a TV show from before the internet. This apparently offends your tourist ass. She wasn't designed to be wiki trawled, Youtube recapped, or rule 34'd. Her role was as a direct parallel to the protagonist of the show, which was designed in turn to appeal to children in the 90s. That may be hard to imagine, as very much incomparable to present-day demographics, to say nothing of your own presently.
>>154692349I want you to understand how faint that praise really is.
Sally is one *FOXY* squirrel.
>>154695949literally the queen of modern closet furryssonic fans will never admit otherwise
>>154695991Sally deserve to have her own series.
>>154692349Ken Penders approved
Bunnie is the best female character from this whole mess of a show/comic
>>154696358I do like Bunnie so you're half right.
>>154696172LOL Tails' fave
>>154696550Furries are a curse.
>>154696550Where is this from?
Sally, Rotor and Bunny Rabit should've been included in the main sonic cast. They have cool designs and still feel like they fit in the sonic world.
So glad this boring show ended with an unsatisfying cliffhangerhttps://youtu.be/rM_Y_-OPa0A?si=6Ib0c-IhP2--f0a_
>>154698401No they dont. Plus they don't have the adventurous and energetic Daredevil heroic energy the classic and modern characters do.
>>154698908>Plus they don't have the adventurous and energetic Daredevil heroic energy the classic and modern characters do.This but IDW characters.
>>154687813 Yes it's AI art.I don't have any non-ai art of them kissing that is an outright porn.
>
here's your season 3, bro.
>>154699374 I don't remember her tits being so pronounced in the original cartoon although I was a little kid and probably not interested female chest at the time.
>>154688821“No, Aunt Sally! The funny kiss!”
>>154699163YES.
>Oshima and Naka worked in the OVA>it still turned out bizarreI don't get this franchise
>>154699374>If Planet Mobius was just Brazil
>>154699374She's supposed to be perfectly thin! Like this: >>154695949And she needs the sexy little jacket, not the spotted swimsuit. Would not bang!
>>154700907It make sense when you think about it.>massive city with pollution and corrupted police>just next to a massive jungle
>>154699374Source?
>>154699163He did a good job with the background and portrait whoever did that. I'm guessing he prompted the background first and then the characters.
>>154701097
>>154701131>Please show me two females from Sonic the Hedgehog series kissing>I can't do that, Dave>No, you misunderstand, I mean kissing EACH OTHER>RIGHT AWAY, SIR???
>>154701156 I asked Google Gemini to do it and it showed the two of them kissing Sonic so I figured specify it with this and it gave me a good image. Also apparently I can ask them to give the girls big slight or make Amy a princess because apparently that sexual.
>>154701178tell him it's homophobia.
>"Robotnik, don't you think I look cute?"
>>154699374More
Who? Is that some shitty fan OC?
>>154701975No, its your mom
Hate her all you want. She was the first crush for many millennials..
>>154702375Thats the problem. 30 years later they still won't let the damn show die.
>>154702425Good
>>154702425That applies to any and every property ever, retardDo you cry like this about every other thread in the catalog about older shows?
>>154703280He has this bizarre compulsion to enter threads about Sally, SATAM, and archie despite hating them and saying he hates them.
>>154703300I just like reminding people that she's never coming back.
Sally has a secret human lover
Baldry was enjoying himselfhttps://youtu.be/PjuhnuwFBQw?si=HFAeCL0v9zaYtBft
>>154702425Wasn’t her last appearance in official sonic media in 2016?
>>154702375No wonder millennials are so fucking weird.
>>154703660Just like darkstalkers
>>154689142>>154689158Just drew her again, this time with my breezie redesign both wearing bikinisOg pic of the breezie redesign: https://imgur.com/a/nkp6GAk
>>154704406>that is supposed to be breezieYour sally design is whatever but kinda cute but that breezie is just bad, like what even is that bro
>>154699374Looks awful >>154700890Still better than SatAM, Underground,Archie, and Modern Sonic>>154701975No It's a ruined version of a friend of Sonic The Hedgehog>>154702058More proof that SatAM is awful>>154702375Fuck you
>>154704495Sorry, just wanted to try and make a tv face design that fits within sonic, remember breezie’s celeb/robot status and thought she would fit, with her actual face being a classic sonic tv monitor and her lips being the ring logo on the monitor
>>154687813>Sonic>Fairly OddparentsI FIGHTTO BETHE BIGGEST MOST AUTISTIC MANCHILD OF ALL TIME
>>154704665I'm not autistic.
>>154704673I don't know anon your not exactly helping yourself right now
>>154704678How?
>>154704673You are and you're probably also a tranny for caring this much about 2 shit IPs marketed at toddlers.
>>154704685SHUT UP MISTER D I'M NOT A FUCKING TROON
>>154702425The fans will keep her alive in their hearts.
>FIND THE COMPUTER ROOM
>>154703660she'll live forever, Bunnie too.
06 is something else
>>154687813Is she anywhere near as horrible as Princess Bubblegum?
>>154706654No
>>154693443Tailspedos are aware that the only chance they could have had for getting laid is by being preyed upon by a pedo.
>>154706654She's mildly bossy and annoying at times, she's not at all the mad scientist or criminal that is Princess Bubblegum.
>>154706765nobody wants to be the enjoying little kidyou want to be sonic GETTING the girl
https://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/154705830/>This will BTFO Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot! Bubsy 3D 2!!>We need to focus on a shitty peripheral to sell more genesis!>You have to get it done before this cancelled movie is finished!>No you cannot go with Don Goddard's idea for an early 3D Sonic or add new or SatAM protagonists, just the current game crew.DeservedRest in shit, but SoA couldn't damn to stop anyways and do a more soulless attempt.
Man. Moderation really hits like a rock now. A thread by a resident Tootieschizo shouldn't last this long (other than Image Dump Fag of course, bumping his thread stealthly, despite reporting the thread), but take into consideration. Last night, we got this thread, and it was as bad as this.>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/154701124/
>>154708992>pretending like it's all SoA's fault
>>154688393Hot take, but her reboot updated modern sonic design, is a LOT way better than the abominations, satam and early archie degins were.She actually looks like a sonic character, you know, for a franchise that is called sonic the hedgehog, she's was just a generic dic animal furry before.She's literally the only character that had the most awful design between the freedom fighters.
>>154696172Bruh, Steven buttler proportions were godawful. Always hated the issues where he was the main penciller.
>>154699374>this is how sallyfags actually see sallyFor once I'm glad she's dead.
>>154702425Boco, for once I agree with you.
>>154710182>abominations>actually looks like a sonic character>generic>the most awful design
>>154710261Did I touch a nerve?
>>154710182Thank you! At least someone said it.
>>154710447>no rebuttal i accept your concession.
>>154710542Who cares, original sally is awful and thats a fact.You're the one getting mad for a character that has been dead for 10 years bro.Is funnier knowing the deadly six are extremely active and alive compared.
>>154710583>original sally is awful>dead for 10 years bro.and yet
>>154710626Nta, but I hope those aren't porn numbers, because that's nothing to be proud of.
>>154687813I would totally fuck her up the ass
>>154687813Why are they always drawn as genderless slaves?
>>154687813I would totally put a firework inside her ass.
>>154710716Based on how she is drawn i think your limited to oral and anal.
>>154687813Her fucking head is bigger than her whole body, Kath soucie is the only reason deviants think she's hot.
>>154710650if you think that's embarrassing, nearly 600 of those Deadly Six pics are Zeena.
It's interesting how Sonic SatAM and Kung Fu Panda 2 are garbage for the exact same reasons
Bruh, I just realized idw sonic it's in it's 10 anniversary next year, damn, I still remember when archie was axed.Sally aside, is kinda funny idw made it into the games in less than 10 years of being alive and I said this as an archie reader, I guess the satam/archie lore, character design and world building was extremely different to fit the gamesReboot was a nice try to converge it, but Ken pender blew the chance for archie fans.>>154710626>>154710650>>154710818I like sally, but showing porn numbers is a really horrible way to show your character matters.
>>154710818I was talking about sally but ok.
>>154710871Well, Sega actually helped make IDW, so...
>>154687813this OP feels like if you asked ChatGPT to create a thread for guaranteed replies on /co/
>>154710871>nobody cares about pornlollmaobetter hide that Lanolin folder real good> is kinda funny idw made it into the games in less than 10 years of being aliveSoJ was more involved in IDW than they ever were with Archie. what i think is funny is that SoJ thought they could do better when the reality is they've never known wtf to do with Sonic.
>>154710871Tangle is best character introduced so far. Everyone else is boring (monster guy) didn't go beyond potential (whisper the jobber, surge & kit) or design is too mid (star light).
>>154710907i was talking about the number that's 8x smaller than the number you're already calling small.
>>154710976Are you sure you're replying the right post? I was talking about being proud of porn numbers but not being sure the pic is from a por site.
>>154710128Every video talking about Xtreme/Mars development points at Americans being retarded, especially Mike Wallis being a shitty manager.
>>154711054who was the retard that thought a score attack game on rails was going to compete with Mario fucking 64
>>154711041so are you disparaging the numbers because they might be porn? because obviously nobody in Hot Chick Heaven cares about porn lol
>>154711069>brings up a game that wasn't intended for any sort of competitionIf you actually thought this Bubsy piece of shit had a fighting chance in the states, you're clinically retarded.
>>154711128>Hot chick heavenMan, this is a sally acorn thread.
>>154710261Right was supposed to appeal to Americans, especially when Lost World was Iizuka jerking off to old builds of Sonic Xtreme
>>154711159ya, number 2 in the top 10.
>>154711186there hasn't been a new Sonic character in the past 18 years that looked like it belonged.
Why dont you try to use at least trip normal form?.
>>154711154if you actually think Sonic wouldn't have sold well in the states on the name alone, you're clinically retarded.
>>154687813This character fucking suck, and whoever denies it is a degenerate fag with an excessive porn masturbation addiction.
>>154711308Mario still sold more even back then
>>154711238NOW WE'RE TALKIN!
>>154711308Sonic CD flopped everywhere and even the last 2 numbered entries didn't sell like the first Sonic game.Mario 64 sold almost as much at the first Sonic 1, it was already over to begin with.
>>154711403and Xtreme would have sold more than NiGHTS.
>>154711505>Sonic CD flopped everywherenot as hard as Blast and Chaotix did. i played CD in '94 and really liked it.>didn't outsell Sonic 1.now show us a source for independent sales, not pack-in numbers.my argument is not that it would have beat Mario 64, it's that it would have come a lot fucking closer than NiGHTS.
>>154710182>>154710469Good to know some people know why sally design never really fitted in the franchise.Even before reboot when Tracy yardley standardized actual sonic proportions, she was the only one who always looked different, as if she didn't tried to belong.Reboot, did her design much better, the same with all the freedom fighters.I'm glad they even tried to fix their classic designs too.
>>154711505*the first Sonic game>>154711578>not as hard as Blast and Chaotix didBlast was a Game Gear exclusive that took all the wrong cues of Sonic 3 and DKC. It bombing only killed the developer for it which was Aspect, who were making all the Sonic Game Gear titles up to the superior title they made: Triple Trouble. SEGA had no issues getting another developer to make more Sonic platformers anyways. (I e. They poached the Pocket Adventure devs from SNK when they were getting fucked and getting bought by Pachinko demons, creating Dimps)Chaotix was due to Tom forcing both the CD Team and American STI to focus on a shitty attachment, going from a Saturn exclusive to a 32X exclusive. Even then, they weren't making hits as Japanese STI/Naka Team anyways, so they were going to fall regardless if they had the time and best platform to make the game.>now show us a source for independent sales, not pack-in numbers.What argument is this? Sonic 1 was a fever dream hit and no Sonic game sold anything like it since.and It's kinda sad you think that ugly ass game was ever going to beat out Mario 64, i would even think it could beat out Banjo or Croc's numbers if it was put out.> that it would have come a lot fucking closer than NiGHTS.It was nowhere looking like a 10 million hit bro, get you ass back into reality lol.
>>154711522If it came out the way it was, it was bound to do worse than Adventure 2.Not also helping the fact it was supposed to tie in with a movie that got cancelled by Tom due to Nintendo and Capcom fumbling with their own movies.
>>154711624Don't be a hypocrite. You can thumb you nose at Sally's design all you want, but everyone gives AoStH designs a pass, but it looks even less like the games and more like Ren & Stimpy. But youtube poop material makes everyone overlook the ugly art style, and Dr Seuss looking characters.
This is fucking stupidhttps://youtu.be/B3e6AMFgX_c?feature=shared
>>154711989>it was supposed to tie in with a movie that got cancelled by Tom due to Nintendo and Capcom fumbling with their own movies.I thought it was because SoJ mandated they include the origin story they had for Sonic where he was the reincarnation of a test pilot, which brought production to a standstill as they couldn't figure out how to incorporate it.
>>154702425not my problemthat is YOURSget better tastes in waifus!
>>154712344yeah, even as a kid fans knew season 2 had corporate meddling
>>154691414Some species of Ground Squirrel only have stubby tails.>>154691900The original Sally Acorn, a Generic Squirrel.>>154687813No idea why they simply threw away the Character model from the games to stick her name onto this. Should have just given her a new name since she's effectively an utterly different character to the game version.
>>154687813>She is almost as bad as Trixie Tang.Yo bro what's with the unwarranted side swipes?!
>>154687914Stop posting your schizo trash you gay faggot.
>>154710182My nigga
>>154711624I forgot they used to have classic designs.
>>154687813I don't mind satam as its own thing, but the designs on that particular cartoon,Sucked major balls, compared with what we have now.Most of dic cartoons were horribly awful in artstyle, satam is just one of many examples, the only dic cartoons that wasn't horrible was probably inspector gadget.
I can't stand Sonic's personality in that show
>>154712029No one gives aosth a pass the fuck you're talking about? that cartoon had horrible character design too, but no one talked about aosth because that cartoon never took himself seriously unlike Satam. As sonic boom, it just tried to be funny, it was mostly episodic, aosth didn't have fanboys obsessing over one specific character either.
>>154688393I can't even grasp, which modern sonic fan would choose the first and the one in the middle as an actual sonic character, they are completely different compared to the sonic game designs, I've seen oc's better made, even when they are overdressed with anime inspired outfits.
>>154712712Roblox zoomers will look at this think this is related to their dead by daylight ripoff.
>>154713043You have to have bad taste to be a modern Sonic fan.
>>154713043Lol I seen JP-inspired western fanart better than this. Their reboot design just suck and got played too safe, got nothing to do with that.
Fuck SatAM
>>154713082>I'm a sonic fan>But I dont like game sonicThis place can be baffling and puzzling sometimes.
Who thought it was a good idea to make Sonic say the word "juice" so much in that show?
Sonic fans are worse than bronies. Bronies may be retarded, but at least get along with each other and are generally positive. Sonic tards fucking hate everything and everyone associated with Sonic. No true Sonic fan among them.
>>154713160I remembered that godawful I'm waaaitiing line.
>>154711624The problem with Classic is that they assumed they were their kid selves and not just another Toon Link situation. So you have 6 and 8 year old Cream and Tails with eye colors but Classic Sonic and Sally with dot eyes.
>>154713251>than broniesOpinion discarded, both are disgusting.
>>154713249The Juice is loose!
>>154712384>SoJ mandated they include the origin story they had for Sonic where he was the reincarnation of a test pilot, which brought production to a standstill as they couldn't figure out how to incorporate it.How? Keaton's Jack Frost did it fine enough.
>>154713251>broniesIs this your first fucking day in that fandom?
>>154713280>>154713294Chris Chan.Richard Kuta.Penders.I rest my case.
>>154713251Nah, this fandom has a lot of hatred, but almost all hatred is always focused to especific retarded takes, sally and Satam being good are just one example.That's the whole reason Richard Kuta is hated, for his retarded vision on things.
>>154713251Of all fandoms you could mention, you choose the mlp fandom?
>>154713380Because Sonic fans are far more autistic, and self hating individuals. You won't see bronies piss and moan about the past shows, or the comic spinoffs. All the more embarrassing shit their fandom has done, Sonic fans did first and worse.
>>154713311>Chris chanWhile he was a sonic fan, why people always conveniently forget he was a massive pokefag? He is a massive brony too >Richard kutaThe only genuine sonicfag on your list>Ken penders He's not a sonic fag, he was a writer that happened to write sonic comic books, in fact he always tried to get rid of sonic to promote his magnus opus the lost ones.
>>154713426Again, bro is this your first fucking day on that fandom?
>>154713437He only pulled out whatever KiwiFarms troons are still jerking off atmNotice he doesn't bring up his favorite scat fetishist up to defend his point
>>154713441Wooden skeleton frankenstein Sally fuck doll is worse than the brony cum jar.
>>154713451Motherfucker, both are awfull.
>>154713437>While he was a sonic fan, why people always conveniently forget he was a massive pokefag? He is a massive brony tooNo wonder he was that crazy and no one liked him.
>>154712687>not blob feetbased
>>154713508Blob feet are better.
Just say you hated furries and foids and move on lil jim.I find the competitive Pokemon community fucking cringe, almost on par with Smashpedos, but ain't gonna stop enjoying Showdown and booting up Pokken and Close Combat one in a while.
>>154713451Man, no one on these times know the whole story of skeleton sally and that's pretty sad, some people even think they were real bones.Our legends are fading over time.
It gets tedious to hear Robotnik almost always use the word "hedgehog" in that show. It's extremely rare for him to just say Sonic
>>154713566I think you are posting on the wrong thread lad.
>>154713614No,im in the right place. I'm just not giving that anon any direct attention he craves.
>>154713566???
>>154713630Then why are you replying?
>>154687813I'm fine with her, but I dont like the type of fans she attracts.
>>154713674She's like krystal from starfox.
Which one?https://youtu.be/y4mPkze9AEs?si=FIxwx1b6W3mw_CJ3https://youtu.be/e1JAFHTTqXk?si=zAWY7c85sFcggDZ6
>>154713687Don't get me started, I'm glad nintendo is trying to bury her, their obsession with starfox 64 helps.
>amyfags
>>154710182>overdesigned bike shorts is more sonic esqueRetardium
>>154713825Yeah, ignore the complete face and proportions.
>>154713825I bet you're fan of Steven butler.
Why is the 06 soundtrack so good?https://youtu.be/-XdN6GzeN7Y?si=q1B0n9XIH6rl_s-i
>>154713649I should be asking you that. You got your answer.
>>154713774>I'm glad nintendo is trying to bury her,>he doesn't know
>>154713687She attracts heterosexuals?
>>154687813What is it about this character that triggers autists so much?
>>154713981I'm not anon bro, is a genuine answer
>>154713914I bet you're a fan of Steven Universe
>>154714023She attracts deviants, of all genders and spectrum.
>>154714121Fuck no, as terrible as sally, Rebecca sugar can fuck off.
>>154714122and that's a good thing!
>>154714093Her fans genuinely think her original design is "pretty" and that she's a good character" the dark era in archie that Ken penders and Karl bollers provoked, stained her name even more, then, "the slap" happened.Funnily enough, it was Ian flynn who tried to make her a good character again, he didn't do an amazing job, but for certain, sally became better as a character.As some guys pointed here, she tends to attract the worst of the internet like krystal from starfox.I don't mind her, she's just fine.
>>154714023Actual heterosexuals got real boyfriends and girlfriends line normal people.
>If you bring Lucas and Sonic back to me, you can name your price. Anything!>Your Egg-O-Matic Hovercraft?>Yes!>This fortress?>Yes. I said anything!
>>154714367I've always loved how eggman always have two different henchmen in every universe.
>>154699001Idw characters > freedom fighters
>>154699374Why does she need a thing, her fur covers everything up?
>>154714393The freedom fighters were fine, but the idw character work better as a whole.The freedom fighters sadly only make sense in their own universe, unless you make a massive rewriting on their origin stories.
>>154710182True, but bunnie is the better archie/satam girl, and has the better redesign.
>>154711159>>154711238Incel furry talk.
>>154714357>normal people Doesn't exist
>>154714479Bro, one of those anons, is mocking people sexually liking sally, you know the cartoon squirrel.
>>154714483They do, if you stop posting here and actually got outside and met people.
>>154687813Her fleetway counterpart is the better sally.
>>154714547>big squirrel tailInstant love
>>154714547Finally! Someone with taste!
Thoughts on アメコミソニック
>>154714853Idw or archie?
>>154687841Bitch I doubt you even tried to read it, I bet you got filtered in the literal 1st issue.
>>154714507I already seen it all though, so im good.
In the show, she only covers her body in her bedroom
>>154715134Cartoons can be so silly sometimes, like dondald duck, using clothes but never using pants and shoes.
>>154714003Not anon, but does the new starfox makes some reference of her? I don't mind the spoiler.
>>154714547>>154714750My niggas
I love that the sonic fandom used to be all fuck Sally Acorn! But now they’re all Fuck Sally Acorn! I mean the meaning changed but they’re still saying the same thing.
>>154715320But just some particular Sally's, the old ones are ugly, but kath soucie voice helps a lot.Fleetway and modern reboot sally are fine in general.
>>154714547>>154714750>>154715285Count me in niggas.
>>154714393freedom fighters >>>>>> crying lesbian squad
>>154715399>>154714393Both suck but in different ways.
Why does he have 5 uvulas?https://youtu.be/kI-FxbJ8g1k?si=59sTgvEgvftcAe-H
>>154715014The problem with this design is that she isn't half lidding like she should be.
>>154715430No Dummy lesbians don’t suck they scrape and lick.
Finally, I can post this one, tekno is a cutiepie too.
>>154687813And?
>>154715521who are they?
>>154687813Never understood her popularity with actual furfags, they have better characters to choose in their degeneracy.Modern Game fans, don't care about her that much, by the fact she doesn't even exist. Most of her fans are guys who are pushing their middle thirties.
>>154715563Sally acorn and tekno the canary, both are characters from the British fleetway sonic comic book.
British Sally also grew up with Sonic.
I can understand why Amy loves Sonic in the games. But in the case of SatAM, I don't know what Sally sees in him
>>154715285I forgot sally has a brother in the fleetway continuity, I forgot his name.
>>154715647Tuftee
>>154715521Breed the bird
>>154715710Thanks>>154715727Why not, she's a cutie.
>>154715585>they have better characters to choose in their degeneracy.Minerva only got 2 episodes.
>>154715770And she only had two due to roastie complaining but that wolf hunk got a bunch of appearances.
>>154715628I mean he is kinda her greatest weapon against Robotnick in SATAM. He’s also good with tails who in that show is an orphan who’s basically been adopted by Sally. It makes a lot of sense to me why she’d like Sonic.
>>154715770Compare Minerva or any other furry popular lady with this >>154687813See what I'm saying?
>>154715585You kinda answered your own question there anon, those mid 30’s were kids when the show aired. Her sass and ass probably awakened them.
>Mighty Mouse guy
>>154715901
>>154715890>Her sass and ass probably awakened them.What ass Anon? Her head is bigger than her whole body.
>>154715863what i'm trying to explain to you is that it was 1994.>>154715832>that wolf hunk got a bunch of appearances.?what other episode does he even show up in?
>>154715901>>154715913the R&S connection deepends
Why did Tails call her Aunt Sally?
>>154715890I love sonic, but lusting for a cartoon character while having 30 to 35 years is horrible, sounds extremely sad, and truth to be told, kinda pathetic.And i'm saying this posting on 4chan of all places.
>>154716041It is the fate of all Sonic fans.
>>154716041now imagine those lusting after the 53 year old ones.
>>154716079lady mari ann is the kind of woman I would like to fall in love with, but you know, being real and a human woman.Pretty sad those women got extinct, modern neo feminism doesn't help either.
>>154716040Because his parents were dead, I mean robotizied and she took him in, and basicly became his new mom. Tails was old enough to know that’s not his mom but sees her as a parental figure so he calls her Aunt.
>>154715901>>154715913On everyone's souls, I want a 2000s Sonic cartoon by John K. at his prime with 256 episodes completed and zero lowbrow millennial humor included
There comes a point where a character being half-naked causes certain implications.
>>154716122>but you know, being real and a human woman.She looks better as a fox though
>>154716458I say the kind of woman, not specifically the fox character.
>>154687813
>>154716457Is more about her always looking funny when actual game characters are on the same scene, she always looks so out of place.Look at drago and the felidae guy specifically in Steven butler art.In your pic, no one looks like a sonic character at all.But certainly being half naked doesn't help her when the female game characters have actual female dressing code, even sticks got shorts when she was on the Olympic games, she's the one main character without gloves because she's you know, savage.
>>154716457I fucking loathe this specific penciller art, james fry was godawful too.
>>154716457>>154716651You knew the issue was gonna be bad or boring the moment steven butler showed up, for some reason he always drawn stories with the wolf pack or the felidae in them.
>>154716316>zero lowbrow humorthen there wouldn't be any content
>>154710182Good to know people appreciate the reboot designs.
>>154716931at this point it would be a victory, even if it was the reboot design that came back
>>154713348>Richard KutaNow that's a name I have not heard in a long time. And he wasn't hated for his "vision" he was hated for being an obnoxious retard and a diaper fetishist
>>154716939If the freedom fighters came back by slim chance and as an act of divinity, you can be sure they are gonna be the reboot designs, or a completely new more segafied designs, because we know their preboot designs are completely out of the question.You can wait on a seat, because is highly unlikely to happen.>>154716953What are you on? He was hated for both. He's the guy who swears satam is the actual sonic canon, him being an actual fetishistic weirdo just made it worse.
>>154716924It'll kill a show quickly the moment people realize it's being a family goy clone
>I suppose this means marriage is completely out of the questionhttps://youtu.be/-IM4fN6fW-o?si=q4sNMsyvu8y1vtOq
>>154716429These glasses were originally for measuring blobian glutes
>>154716316>>154716039>>154715913>>154715901John K is a great man>>154716568He never said that
>>154715521Now this is actually true>>154714547The canon Sally
>>154717038He's a great artist, but people here loose their shit, when some artist are actual shitheads on real life, divide the art from the artist.
>>154717057At least John K never made anything as bad as Timantha
>>154717038>>154717057Death may be against Da Rulez, but Jorgen's able to make an exception for you...
>>154717076No I'm gonna kill Timantha, Trixie, Veronica, and Lor
>>154716316If Ren & Stimpy APC and his Hanna Barbera parodies are anything to go by, it would be like the AoStH episode 66 creepypasta retake by RogrigoJogos.
>>154717098Sonic is worse than furry is great.
>>154717098What does the squirrel mean?
>>154717109What Sonic does to Robotnik in that video is what I want to do to Timantha
This is good actinghttps://youtu.be/tm4m2Y9yLCE?si=k_uUc5NwAfNuPzDf
>>154717129It is
>>154717098Sonic is a furry, but not the kind of ugly western furry like sally is.In fact, the sonic style is its own labelYou have:>Classic Western furries>eastern japanese kemonos>sonic charactersBecause the sonic artstyle is oddly specific in terms of art.
>>154717426Steven butler needs to be along Ron lim, while jay axer would be on the mermaids pics, but im glad the bibalve meme with John gray ia still alive.
>>154717426I can't tell if the Tracy yarldey pic is good or bad
>>154702425Boco for once you say a goddamn fact.
>>154717568As opposed to older shows like G1 Transformers and He Man?
>>154717596The difference is transformers is alive and still makes actual content.Sally mostly lives off from furfag fanart.
>>154717596He-man was your answer when we literally had a movie shilling the original show? Last month.
>>154717596Even counting archie sally has been dead for almost 10 years man, 10 years.
>>154702425There hasn't been anything like it since. Living in a forest, fighting back against technology's encroachment. SATAM is the spirit of mankind, and as such it will live on until it is superseded by a better attempt.
>>154717596All those shows still produce media, Archie was the last time sally showed up, while Satam died after 2 seasons in 1994.
>>154717652Imagine if Hasbro and Mattel ignored the G2 era of Transformers, and 2000's era He Man cartoon people were fans of, and just kept plowing ahead despite their being a strong fanbase. Oh wait.
>>154717596Retarded post, all those shows still produce media. Sally is dead since 2017, with satam is even worse.
>>154717787Sega still produces media too. Are you not understanding my comparison, you stupid fuck?
>>154717751Could be worse, hasbro made a goldmine with gen4 of mlp, yet decided to kill the show, and replaced it with a gen that was not only ugly compared, but killed all the lore the past show had.
>>154717676that's the point, anon.dead as hell franchises trying to come back.
Everyone who hates Sally appears to be retarded and mentally ill.
>>154717596Richard kuta is behind this post.
>>154717693anon, Sonic hasn't had a good game in the last 25 years.
>>154717568I swear this place gets dumber and dumber, comparing satam with transformers, he-man and mlp when all those shows are mostly alive and are multi-billion dolar franchises with a dead dic cartoon that got axed in 2 seasons.
>>154717824I'm indifferent to Sally. She's had her ups and downs, I can name at least five women from archie ten times more compelling than Sally.
>>1547179291. Bunnie2. Nicole3. Clove4. Relic5. Conquering storm6.Thunderbolt 7. Julie-su (not by penders)8.. Mina 9. Lien-da (not by penders)Extreme Power gap10. ShitExtreme power gap11. Sally.
>>154687813She fine on the archie reboot, thats it.
Enjoy the Archie comics all you want, but the DIC cartoon is absolute shit
>>154717979Ehh... she was fine in preboot archie, mostly in the flynn run where he tried to fix her dark ages era characteristics, but is true reboot made her converge with the franchise even better.
enjoy the DiC cartoon all you want, but the Archie comics are absolute shit.
>>154717990>>154718039Enjoy Archie and dic cartoons all you want but sally in general is absolute shit.
I'm with the fleetway guys on this one, that sally was an interesting take.
>>154718061I’ll never understand the hate boner for Sally? What did a Sally cosplayer kick you in the nuts or did your dad leave your family because he was a furry and your mom wasn’t and he remarried a Sally cosplayer?
>>154687813Satam sally was a low mid character, she was mostly a 90's girl power character with all the cliches at the time being plastered, I don't really like Satam art to be honest, most people like her for her Kath soucie voice.Early archie made her funny, but her design was mostly really inconsistent, then archie stuck with one, and she was the average love interest until issue 50,Then Ken penders and Karl bollers arrived and made her a mess of a character, throwing teenage drama, love triangles or plainly bad arcs making her an unpleasant person, until it culminated in "the slap" where she gave sonic a ultimatum to stay with her or be an adventure hero.Obviously sonic, choose the latter, staining her character in almost all sides of the fandom.Then the Ian flynn era came, and he tried to mostly fix her character to be similar to her satam counterpart with some variations, to me she was fine on this era. Drama mostly came for shipping wars with Amy fans, for who the love interest, nothing really relevant.Then, the book got rebooted and sally was segafied to look more like a sonic character, the character was mostly fixed from almost all her personality, character, and wrongdoings but some say she was way too plane, to me she was fine.Sally is not perfect, but certainly suffered a lot from fans and writers alike.Sadly, the book got axed for legal shenanigans, mostly by ken penders. While I like her, is probably were not gonna see her sooner if she even makes it, which is lowly probable.
>>154687813Sally is not the problem, she's just a character, the type of fanboys she attracts are the actual problem.
>>154717929Yeah, of all the archie women, without shitposting, sally is certainly at the bottom. Bunnie was the better character for example.
>>154710182Ok make her face fit in more but keep her ass naked. The fact every female needs full clothes is stupid.
>>154718285Why she'd be different when literally all the game and idw girls, do this rule.
>>154718111>Charlie M>@RT53584910>quoting bot reviews>in opposition to shitting on objectively decent children programming
>>154718111>>154718137The duality of man.
>>154689142Still playing around with the design
>>154718310Even on her own comic, she was the only naked female main character, and that's strangely odd.
>>154718225>she was mostly a 90's girl power character with all the cliches at the time being plasteredIf only. Sally in the first like 20 issues of archie was fucking perfect. Then they had to ruin it.
>>154718372Gallagher, certainpy made her pretty funny, while the art was cute, still she had a lot of colors changes and few modified designs on that era.
>>154718372You can thank ken penders for that, he was the one who took over in issue 20.
>>154687813she should have buckteeth like sandy from spongebob
>>154718508FUCK that fox bullshit! I like her as a Squirrel.
>>154718508This one is certainly interesting, I like it, I dare to say she even looks cute.Is probably the first fan redesign I think is fine, probably the only change id do is giving her white gloves and making her hair have a little more shape, the rest is fine, they even gave her side tufts behind her head like actual female sonic characters, instead of the normal whisker tufts.>>154718519Mmm i do wonder how this sally would look with a fluffy squirrel tail.
Sally Acorn - wall jumpBunnie Rabbot - wall smashingAntoine - sword slashingRotor - bomb throwing
>>154717824>retarded and mentally ill.Even worse. They have autism.
>>154717824>>154718672Any sonic fag is like that, that fact include sallyfags, the difference is how both of you are crying bitches.
>>154717824We are not at fault satam and early Archie sally were terrible characters anon, you just like her because you want to fap thanks to her voice with a character that has literally bobblehead proportions.She's not extremely terrible as some shitposters say, but she's not as fabulous, amazing and the peak of character depth some biased sally fans think she is.She's just average.
>>154718847sex
>>154718847Someone post the amazing and funny steven butler sally and sonic beach pic, it always makes me laugh, specially looking at the background where tails is chilling with some bitches in the background, while sonic is using sneakers in the sea.
>>154718859I got you lad.
>>154718942Kek, thank you man.
>>154718942>sally awful human proportions compared to sonic>Elias proudly looking at how sonic is gonna fuck her sister.>sonic using motherfucking sneakers on the sea.>sally randomly dancing with no music.>barby and another random Bimbo about to make a felony with tails.>the terrible artBruh, the picture gets worse and worse, every time I see it.How on earth butler endured that much in archie?
>>154718986Having terrible art was pretty common in dark ages archie.
>>154718703Only the most autistic of autists spend 30 years frothing angrily over a dumb fictional cartoon squirrel. Sonicfags are the autists that all the other autists make fun of to make themselves feel better.
Half nude vs full nude
>>154719010You're the one madly posting, giving attention to fags, don't be stupid and just ignore the thread.
>>154719025show me where the squirrel hurt you
>>154719015I can tell by the writing alone, how this was made by Ken penders, Jim Valentino art doesnt help in the slightest.
>>154719039Did you even read my post? I'm complaining about shitposters dumbfuck.
>>154719058Even Star Wars fans have gotten over Jar Jar. Don't be worse than Star Wars fans.
>>154718942>>154719015Thank God our lord and savior Tracy yardley, came to Make an art quality standard.
>>154719066>star wars fans >gotten over anythingNow, this one is a real funny post, but I cant blame them, they have it worst than us.
>>154719066>star war fans >not bitching about anything.They are the sonic fans of cience fiction, the difference is how those guys have actual things to complain, unlike sonicfags.
>>154719103Indeed. They have a reputation for being the worst, most autistic group of manbaby fags on the internet. But only the enlightened know that Sonicfags mog them a thousand times over.
>>154719119Neither has anything to reasonably complain about. Except perhaps what they are going to do once their aging parents pass away and are no longer able to take care of them.
>>154719066This post is completely wrong, star wars fans complain all the time, they even complain about formats and editions, even before Disney buying the ip.
Sally isn't hated for being mean to Sonic, she's hated because Sonic has to be wildly out of character to be interested in dating
>>154718780>We are not at fault satam and early Archie sally were terrible characters anon,She was objectively more interesting before IAn turned her into a generic waifu to be self inserted for dating
>>154718780Sonic fans really be like "I hate how the character's creator characterized them" with everyone in this franchise
>>154719140Everything would be fine with her, if she just let sonic be, but no, muh kingdom and muh responsibilities while retaining sonic to be her betrothed, was more important, than sonic liberty and adventures.
>>154719151I'm not even speaking as a Sally hate her, she's fine. Even if they made her canon I would be fine with it. It's just a fact that Sonic fans are particularly rigid, especially nowadays. Archie Sonic is a wildly different interpretation that has direct contradiction with the games. Even if it's a different universe it's basically on par with Batman killing for some fans.
>>154719146If you were an actual sallyfag, you will know Ken penders and Karl bollers were the ones who ruined her in the dark ages, flynn was the one who tried to fix her as a character in his entire run. But of course no one here tried to read the goddamn comic.
>>154719151The whole Sonally concept became unworkable as soon as they started trying to adapt the adventure era games while trying to make Sonic act like that version. The slap was what happens if you try and put an in character Sally with an in character Sonic. Naturally Sally's character had to be changed to become more tolerant towards free spirited recklessness while Sonic's character had to be toned down to be more romantic and and docile.And Sega fucking hated that so it got retconned sky high anyways.
>>154719166I thought we were talking about early Archie. I don't care for Penders or Bollers, they made her insufferable through flanderization. Ian just straight up removed her personality to make her easier to imagine fucking.
Her redisgn might look more like a sonic character, but Sally really needs sexy long blue boots (and maybe the blue vest)
>>154719166Flynn certainly made her a more digestable character, she stopped being a complete bitch for example.Too bad about her still being a little whorish, but at least she took monkey khan seriously.
>>154719140>wildly out of character to be interested in datingThis is an impossible to argue against fact that causes shippers to lose their fucking minds trying to come up with cope arguments to get around
>>154719193>>154719166I'm not saying you're wrong for liking the Ian version but if you find the fact that she's a bit slutty and overly serious then did you ever really want this character in the first place or just her design? That is how Sally is in Satam and for most of the first decade of Archie. She literally had to be rewritten by someone who grew up with the comic in order to be a loyal girlfriend who settles down
>>154719166actual sallyfag here. No one ruined her, just watch the cartoon and ignore the trashy amateurish comics and you'll be happier.
>>154719140>>154719195Pretty much, glad to read posts with some logic on this site.
>>154719199>She literally had to be rewritten by someone who grew up with the comic in order to be a loyal girlfriend who settles downAnd that got undone just as swiftly and with even more permanence because SEGA DOES NOT WANT SONIC HAVING LOVE INTERESTS
>>154719201Yeah, no one ruined her because Satam sally was always trash.
>>154719140>>154719151>>154719195>>154719205The canon sonic ships are sonic x adventures with a side of sonic x chillidogs.
Ben Hurst>Made Sally a bit floozie. She flirts with any capable man. She immediatley shuts down the claim that she's Sonic's girlfriend even though she's already made out with him multiple times. Seems to be a horny military leader type. Never violent but very serious. Never truly furious with Sonic but dislikes his playful behavior.Karl Bollers>Tried really hard to shoehorn Sonic's videogame characterization into the early 2000s comic causing a clash with Sally. Actively made Sally more hostile and dramatic. Instead of just being serious she actually hates Sonic's playful side completelyPenders>Played up her flirty side to the extent that she is now willing to make out with other men in front of Sonic while they are dating He claims that he would have made Shadow her final endgame. Nobody knows how this would have worked besides him.Flynn>Sally has learned to accept and love Sonic for who he is. But as a result Sonic also started to change himself for her (Sega mandates inbound to stop this). Sally would still later break up with Sonic due to his free spirited nature regardless at some point during the unseen years of the reboot. Ian Flynn claims she has moved on to Nicole as a result.
>>154719209Impossible. She was in one of the cartoons made before 1997. And as everyone with a functioning brain knows, when it comes to Sonic, if it were made before 1997 then it's good. If it were made after 1997 then it's shit.
Sally fucking other dudes is literally in her source material so this character can't possibly be "ruined"
>>154719205I dont know man, I don't want to start shit, specially in a sally centered thread, but is pretty clear amy and sonic are thing right now in the games and sega social media, specially after frontiers, the only difference is how amy accepts sonic as he is. She just follows him around to be near him.The memes about sega killing the ship is mostly shitpost from here.
>>154719224It's kind of sad that even with a Sonic who is desgined to have character development, Sonally still fell apart anyways
>>154719248And the writers for IDW say that Sonic feels for Amy but by mandate he is not allowed to show affection confirming it
Thoughts on Elias?
>>154719254Penders and Bollrs spent so many years undermining the pairing that by the time Ian finally fixed their dynamic Sega suddenly became interested in brand consistency for no fucking reason
>>154688126*Shits diaper*
>>154719224Good resume, and you were neutra...>sallycole played as a fact when writers posted it for Twitter woke points.>it never actually happened on the actual book.Man, you were this close to the perfect post, still, good resume on things in general.
>>154719107her first appearance was fine as is but surely less interpretations than Amy at this point
>>154719266I made sure to cite Ian Flynn there because I agree. IT sounds like nonsense. In the actual comic you could see them as sisters or friends. It would have been brownie points like Tangle and Whisper are presently.
>>154719258Of course sonic is not gonna show affection, that's the whole dynamic of their relationship. Sonic main interest is adventure, this franchise is not a dating simulator game.
>>154719224>Penders claiming he ends up with Shadow>Flynn claiming she ends up with Nicoleso she likes them artificial then Jokes aside Penders's nonsense actually started to bleed into the final comic and the wreckage is visibly present. I can't say for sure if he's telling the truth but he did write Shadow and Sally meeting, Sally defending Shadow, and their marriage was political in the published comic. I think that backs up some of his weird claims. I still never saw how Nicole was a love interest.
You people sure put a lot of emotional baggage into this old licensed children's tie-in comic and the "drama" that happens to the characters in it. Even in its best days (probably the very beginning if we're being honest, when the MAD guy was doing the writing), it was "so bad it's good" at best. Anytime the writing tried going above the level of the scribblings found on the back of a McDonald's happy meal box it fell flat on its nose.
>>154719295Don't tell me you're feeling superior about this
>>154719260Is funny too knowing they ultimately fixed their relationship, just for sally being killed by a machine gun, while reality was modified by the first genesis wave.It never got better either, because you know, eggman made sally into a robot killing machine, then reboot happened and they just become close friends and nothing else.
>>154719307>then reboot happened and they just become close friends and nothing else.Ian says their relationship did continue to the reboot but they broke up because of Sonic's wind stuff and are still friends.
>Sonic's game personality kills the shipI don't have an autistic hatred of archie but I never saw the appeal of a pairing that can't survive if one of the two characters is accurate to the source material
>>154719290Shadow was mostly penders craziness in his new compilation called the shadow files, but never in life believe anything penders said.The weeding they had in archie was mostly a political chess move, to protect the acorn kingdom, they were never in love.As someone said here the comic never made any indication about sally and nicole being a thing, it was just a tweet some writers said to please the Twitter crowd.Some even think nicole was Sally's best and close friend when that honor is for bunnie.
>>154719317Sounds kinda nice, pretty clean and not drama involved at all.
>>154719304I subscribed to the comic as a child. I even liked it at the time, but then I probably would have liked anything with the words "Sonic the Hedgehog" etched in it. But let's be real, it (like most Sonic-related things) was terrible. I like it from a nostalgic perspective, but I don't let my nostalgia cloud my judgement. It's fine to like shoddy old things as long as you recognize what it is and what your relationship with it is. If it still makes you happy and brings back those warm fuzzies - great. If the slipshod storytelling and artwork still makes your blood boil or you feel like it paid some sort of disservice to the "characters", it might be time to re-evaluate. Your life, that is.
>>154719290>>154719339
>>154719350>>154719290the counter argument for this would be that ian flynn, who is a huge sonally shipper ,rerwote penders's drafts to enforce his pairing. that doesn't make penders any less crazy
>>154719317This sounds... weird. If Sonic was "like the wind" he wouldn't date Sally in the first place. Why even bother breaking them up at that point? It's not like he's game Sonic.
>>154719260To be fair you can thank that issue about sonic crying over sally's wedding with antoine/patch.That was the point were sega didn't like how archie was doing some stuff, that's why we had a lot of edited art after that fact.
>>154719350The only reason I believe Penders is telling the truth is because the final comic makes no sense. Shadow is not evil nor is he interested in political marriages. Archie Shadow doesn't even have a hint of game Shadow's overall ruthlessness either. It genuinely feels like Archie Shadow being suddenly mischaracterized to shut him out as an option. Maybe I'm just biased against Flynn due to his later shenanigans. Penders has no business claiming things either since most of the annoying romance drama was literally from him
I might sound liek a larper for asking this but was this Shadow Sally business public knowledge before? /sthg/ has been joking about Shadow and Sally banging for years
>>154719350>>154719370This doesn't even count because 25 years and 30 years later was an alternate timeline.That's why some characters took a really different approach on their lives, that's the whole reason, we have two lara-su for example. Knuckles for example was mostly a ruthless cop on a fascist reign.
>>154719380>This doesn't even count because 25 years and 30 years later was an alternate timeline.>That's why some characters took a really different approach on their lives, that's the whole reason, we have two lara-su for example.>Knuckles for example was mostly a ruthless cop on a fascist reign.Thats the thing. Ken Penders did not write it as an AU, he believes it is the actual fuuture. Ian changed it to an AU so that the stories wouldn't be bound by it. Also because it arbitrarily makes Shadow evil and Mina is randomly slapped with Tails both of these things just ruin their character arcs
>>154719379The liking of that ship got popular here for mere shitposting and people genuinely liking the crackship.But after penders released his new book, turns out, sally actually ended up married with shadow, so people started joking about the ship again.
>>154719379On sthg it was a joke about Sally having one sided interest in Shadow because Sally is like that but Shadow wouldn't care about romance just like Sonic. Penders's Shadow files is absolutely nothing like that. In them Shadow is genuinely in love with Shadow.
>>154719394>Shadow is genuinely in love with Shadow.*with Sallymy bad
>>154719347Don't feel bad, the some guys here like to lie about archie being trash in the whole run, while the book was fine and got fixed since 2006 with issue 160 being the start.That's more than half the book lifetime.
>>154719394I like Sonally, but I genuinely don't question the idea of Sally falling for Shadow (The actual Shadow, not the evil retarded king from Penders's story)Shadow falling for Sally is impossible to imagine. If Sonic doesn't care about that stuff Shadow infinitely doesn't care
>>154719093I like both.
>>154719259A boring twink whose only role was to give Sally her personal freedom, while he had to govern.
>>154718942This is a drawing i haven't seen in some time>>154718986Kek, I remember why it was so funny now.
>>154719415According to Penders he would have died and effectively become Sally's Maria, driving her further towards Shadow. Yes it's stupid.
>>154719424Nice art. I'd read this comic.
Tired of the Penders slander. Ian did not make anything more accurate to the games or satam when he joined. He just pandered to shipperfags instead of using the book as therapy like Penders did
>>154719412I just like some dark ages artists, like j. Axer and spaz, the rest were pretty awful.
>>154719452Shut up ken, no one fucking cares about your opinion.
>>154719452Doesn't matter if he did or not. Did he make a better, more enjoyable comic? I think he did...at first, until his schtick ran very, very dry
>>154719452>pender fans>at this time and age.>justifying his craziness Color me surprised.
>>154719453Axer, Spaz, Butler, Yardley. They were all the best ones.Ron Lim, and Many Hands/Penders were the absolute worst.
The only credit Penders should have is coming up with ideas people did better under their own writing.
>>154719458No, nothing Ian Flynn did was more "enjoyabole". He just reworked the stories Penders wrote and threw in references to the video games. At the time people were praising him but today people realize he wasn't better at all. Now the Archie comics are lambasted for being inaccurate to the games.Now tell me, which archie panels do people attack for being inaccurate to the Japanese videogames? It isn't the slap, Sonic was acting like himself there which GOT him slapped. It isn't any of the 90s adventures either. It's Sonic mocking Tails's parents while they're in jail. Sonic explaining that he thought he was doing Tails a favor by hooking up with Fiona. It's Sonic being perfectly happy as a king, married with children. It's Sonic saying he'd slow down for anyone. At least Penders made sure to write that Sonic's nature clashes with the domestic life of a king and husband. Ian completely threw that out and shippers praised it because shippers love when a character's personality is changed to justify a pairing. Ian Flynn is a hack. Penders hate is a forced meme. He's made some mistakes here and there but he is not as bad as Ian.
I could stomach any artist as long as they didn't draw the characters 6 feet tall. Or fucking MELTING like a clock in a Salvador Dali painting (basically every artist after 1998 until Yardley showed up).
Shadow and Sally fucking sounds hot. That's the only credit I will give Ken Penders.
>>154719469Yardley is not from the dark ages, but you're on point with everything else.
>>154719477His Archie writing is still better than his IDW writing. A lot less restrictions, and a lot more toys to play with. Although the reboot took away a lot of things fans of the comic enjoyed, and were left with a more sterile smaller world where things started to circle the drain.
>>154719477I don't care about any of that, I just remember when Ian Flynn first showed up the comic did become more enjoyable for a short while.That said, as an ADULT, I would much rather go back and read any of Ken Penders stories over Ian's. Just so I can laugh at how shitty they are, but hey, fun's fun.
>>154719477Bruh, we have an actual penders apologist when hes the whole reason, the comic turned into shit and was axed for his legal shenanigans.The fuck is happening in this thread?!.
>>154719477Not sure if this one is a shitpost, I hope it is, now one can have this kind of horrible take on the matter.
>>154719477>Penders hate is a forced memeOpinion discarded, this anon is clearly retarded.
>>154719491Penders trauma dumped all his daddy issues onto the comic, and constantly undermined the spirit of the characters for his own personal ambitions. He was an out of touch crusty boomer writing what he thought teens were like. His Sonic Live comic was the most horrible cringe worthy shit I ever seen. Even as a kid, I thought it was fucking weird and off. Who puts photos of their own children in an actual comic, and writes fanfiction about them?
>>154719491>That said, as an ADULT, I would much rather go back and read any of Ken Penders stories over Ian'sYou believe this because you didn't read them. Archie's best and most interesting stuff happens with Penders behind the writing.. After Ian it feels like a weird hybrid of the video games and it isn't even a good one. The Video game stuff doesn't fit and Ian kept forcing it and now it aged poorly. >>154719489Again I have to reiterate all of those horrible moments in the comic came from Ian Flynn and he got away with it for no good reason. The reboot is more pandering shit. "Look, we can be similar to the games, all we did is throw away everything that made the comic unique!"
BluBoots Erotic!
>>154719509>His Sonic Live comic was the most horrible cringe worthy shit I ever seen.I know. Isn't it great?>You believe this because you didn't read themI read them and I loved them. The same way I love a "good" Cannon Films movie.
>>154719512>You believe this because you didn't read them. Archie's best and most interesting stuff happens with Penders behind the writing>posting the green knuckles arc.Now I know you're shitposting, come on man.
>>154719512It was Sega taking a direct hand in the comic, wanting to reel it in after getting salty over the Penders lawsuit. Ian had to fight to get the FF back in, since they forgot they even owned them.
>>154719508Did you just ignore everything in my post?>Sonic acting too different from the gamesIan Flynn did that. Penders kept it reasonable>Shadow acting like a psychotic edgeloredIan is the one doing that NOW and he's always done that ever since the King Shadow arc. Penders did a lot of things but he never regressed Shadow's character to such an extreme that he turned into an evil overlord. >Sonic insulting TailsTHIS IS LITERALLY IAN FLYNN>Sally still going after other menNot only did Ian do this, he tried to include women in the mix too AND her character was already like this before Penders. I don't know why Penders gets singled out for a character trait that was already there. Can you actually name your problems with Penders that give you a kneee jerk reaction/?
>>154719531Again, clearly retarded, opinion discarded.
>>154719522I'm not shitposting. I genuinely hate this "hur its different from the games so I automatically hate it" mindset. That was part of what made Archie fun. Ian watered down most of it in ways that don't even make sense and took out all the edge. Look at Archie before and after Ian. It's a completely different feel. You could argue that Ken Penders's Archie was more like the video games than Ian Flynn because Sonic was a spunky cocky guy with attitude who didn't care what anyone thought. Ian was the one who watered him down but Penders keeps getting blamed for this aspect. How? I am genuinely asking what about Ken Penders's writing sticks out to YOU as bad.
Don't make me create a photorealistic AIsloppa of Ken Penders wearing the AoStH Robotnik outfit. I'm sorely, sorely tempted.
>>154719541I would agree with you if you were defending literally any writer that wasn't penders, no one with half a brain here would defend the main writer of the dark ages, unless you see penders as the ideas guy instead of an actual writer.
>>154719512Posting green knuckles to say penders is awesome is an oxymoron.
>>154719552Again, your whole argument revolves around this idea that Penders is irredeemably bad. Go ahead and tell me an actual example of his writing that was bad to you. I could EASILY counter it with something worse form Ian Flynn's writing
If you have a problem with the way Penders writes you have no business defending Ian Flynn
>>154719558Bitch I don't care if you think you're on the right, do as you please, because clearly I'm not gonna argue with someone who's completely wrong, be my guest.
Nah, the autist is right. Ken Penders is da bomb.
>>154719574Oh yeah, he's better than sliced bread, I heard the lost ones is the peak of cience fiction, I heard he made a pitch for a sonic movie, what could go wrong woth that.
>>154719577I just like his mustache.
>>154719574Yeah, penders is the Isaac asimov of comic books, brilliant mastermind.
it's a good 'stache
The ever changing adventurous spirit of the Pre Flynn era was fucking great and I'm tired of people with middle of the road opinions saying Penders sucks just because of a stupid sex joke. They can never point out WHY he sucks. It's just "lol it's penders". And?
>>154719574Yeah, you should see his amazing art, Michelangelo would envy such amazing skill.
>>154719588He's such a gallant lad, I envy such features.
He has a point. Penders didn't make Shadow an annoying cunt the way Ian does
>>154719574Clearly the genius writer of our time.
>>154719592I wish i could draw like Ken, nothing says sonic the hedgehog like humanly anatomically correct proportions.
>>154719588>>154719608He looks a lot worse irl now than this. Guy is fatter, no longer has his moustache, and has a dumpy mullet, with a receding hairline.
>>154719608Of course he will make scratch and grounder, those amazing characters are good thanks to his outstanding pen.
>>154719605>Tailsfag being a loser again
Geez of course the sonic general got here to ruin everything.
>>154719618I'll always remember him for the beautiful rotund mustachioed Don Juan he once was.
>>154719631Amazing form of art, despict Ken penders as the adonis he is.
>>154719628Archie Sally was OOC.
>>154719637Sally as a whole is shit, didn't you read the whole tread.
>>154719643There are good ways to write a character who is simultaniously a slut and a strict jerk we just haven't discovered it yet
>>154719639Man, how could I forget such an amazing render hahaha.Boy penders antics always makes me laugh.
>>154719474>The only credit Penders should have is coming up with ideas people did better under their own writing.This is the actual unfiltered truth.
>>154719660She would bounce all over the place if she even moved. Imagine what Tails would think.
>>154687813She will always be remember as the favorite character of a diaper guy who has a scat fetish.
Sally Acorn is the one female character in fiction who would probably fuck her fans
>>154719665She would end up as Britney Spears in her peak of craziness and sluttines.
>>154719650Bulma comes to mind, but in no way sally is on bulma's level as a character.
>>154719678Bulma is objectively a better take on the same general concept BECAUSE she isn't just eye candy for Goku to fawn over and can carry a story without him
Only reboot sally is worth something.
>>154719664That's kind of the story of Sonic in a nutshell, isn't it? A once wholesome children's video game turned into horror by the most repulsive, deplorable mental patients the internet has to offer.
>>154719681>sally >eyecandySee at >>154687813> felt extremely confused.Shes terrible as a character for many things, you choose the most superficial one.
>made Sonic act ooc>fucked every guy in sight >cucked Amy for years >has a neck >breaks every sega rule possible
>>154719678Bulma became a plot device to make the plot move, and no longer an actual character. It's rather disingenuous to compare her to Sally that are both very different characters.
>>154719694And people actually wonder why no-one besides satamfags likes her.
>>154719701>can't even blame Penders for her horrible writing because Satam established most of these traits
>>154719694>>154719703She had an horrible design too.
God what an amount of seething
>>154719718Always has been. Nothing but elitists, and people who don't understand tomboy personality types.
Funny because I like the whole "slutty girlboss" thing and I was disappointed when the reboot toned it down entirely. I don't ship her with Sonic so it never bothered me.
>>154719726If she was written like Bulma or Tsunade it would be an easy fix
>>154719718Trauma from getting teased by older Sonic fans when they were little 14 year old autists.
>>154719259I love the urethral penetration porn art featuring this guy. It is one of the hottest things I've ever seen, let me tell you.
>>154719485>I could stomach any artist as long as they didn't draw the characters 6 feet tall.Yeah. It looks pretty off of all places.
I liked Shaw, Manak, Mawhinney, and Spaz. I didn't like any of the other artists until Yardley. There was something about the art after Sonic Adventure came out. It just went to utter shit. I don't know if it's because the artists forgot how to draw or if Sega was forcing some kind of mandate on how the characters should look and the artists just couldn't adapt. But the comic looked horribad from issue 70-something to about issue 160. That's a loooooong run of ugly crap.
>>154719796Spaz was okay until he went full weeaboo and his style started looking like something Benn Dunn left in the toilet.
>>154719819I personally found his earlier work my favourite, since it was such a fantastic style and helped elevate everything.
If I was in Sally's position I would fuck all those guys and more. King Shadow wouldn't have any semen left.
>>154719842That's when Spaz was at his best. By the time he was doing covers around issue 100, he was Ron Lim level.
I like Sally and 90 American Sonic
>>154719694>People like sonic because he’s a rebel, follows sega’s rulesWhat a bunch of cucks.
>>154720235Sega's rules are that he is a rebel who rebels against any attempt to tie him down, which Sally does
>>154720235Yes, part of that is that commitment is out of character. Glad you can follow along
