Which one /co/?
>>154700568Fantastic 4
>>154700568I think F4 had more potential but S25 ended up being a better movie.
>>154700568Neither
>>154700568I was disappointed in Fanny Four. I like their classic comics and the retro future space age style was a cool ideathe cast was caca and the movie was mediocreSuperman was mostly dumb but I liked the actor playing Superman and Mr. Terrific was cool. (the movie was too bloated I guess but at least shit happened)and I always liked Krypto Gunn's epic found family shit is GETTING FUCKING OLD at this point though
>>154700755>the movie was too bloatedSame. It could have worked with only Mr. Terrific and Metamorpho, all other characters that weren't part of the main cast weren't necessary for the movie to work.
>>154700773Even they were unnecessary imo
>>154700568Superman was way better. I cant put my finger on where F4 fell short
Easily SupermanFantastic Four isn't worth watching unless you really really care about the MCU
>>154701617F4’s story just isnt interesting and has too much setup. We needed a F4 fantastical scifi adventure story not something that was just setting up crossovers
>>154700568Fantastic 4 only because Feige delivered a proper Galactus.
>>154700568I think I don't know what I want from superhero movies anymore. The whole always feels worse than its parts.
>>154701873Galactus probably felt too big of a conflict, and if they wanted proper fights they should have had several heralds such as Terrax and Airwalker. If not Galactus, then why not actually fucking set up Doom? Not as a main antagonist, but perhaps a shaky ally? Against the Mole Man or something?
>>154700568I have no plans to watch either of them ever again.
>>154700568I hate this new trend of wholesome and comic accurate movies. Where's the edge? Where's the excitement of watching Tony Stark kill terrorists or Hulk actually wreck something?
>>154702248>comic accurateSuperman wasn't comic accurate.
>>154702248Hawkgirl killing not Netanyahu wasn't edgy enough for you?
>>154702439He was, autist.
>>154700568Fantastic Four just has a very weak cast, they did a bad job on each member of the Four. As well, the movie is just not very interesting at all, it's boring. There's a lot wrong with Superman, but Hoult's Lex Luthor was amazing so Superman clears.
I think it’s weird that a running gag in F4 was Ben not liking the “It’s Clobberin’ Time!” catchphrase but Johnny didn’t say “Flame on!” once
Despite the naked metal lady F4 was forgettable
>>154702850This is the most annoying thing I've heard about the movie. I watched Superman, didn't watch this F4, mostly because I found the cast repellent. But I really loathe >actually the character hates the thing that they like in the source materialDon't fucking lampshade it, if you have a better take on the character let it stand on its own two feet.
>>154702657Wrong, the Els being evil was a huge departure from established canon, and personality-wise Superman was very different from the comics, mainly he was dumber and more naive.
A problem is that despite Marvel and DC trying to go back to the basics, they are still stuck on the mentality of needing to set up future films and tease crossovers
>>154702657You don't read comics so shut up
>>154703042Yeah the GOTG movies are basically what F4 should have been
>>154703042That is 100% the problem. Movies aren't just movies anymore, everything is setting up a big Endgame level event a decade down the line. Phase 1 Marvel did this too but they actually put effort into each individual installment.
>>154702657Since when was comic Superman big on the chungus cringe?
>>154700729>>154701982>>154702198>>154702248OP said which one.
>>154703042This
>>154700729faggot
>>154704206>My Fantastic Four are the four main dudes from Yu Yu Hakusho.Best post ITT. I wonder why comic and cartoon artists can't make characters as cool as these guys
>>154700568I've only watched short clips of either and they look like absolutely dogshit.Modern blockbusters are trash.
>>1547032401938
>>154704391Golden Age Supes wasn't like that
>>154700568>SupermanWay too much science fiction. Doesn't feel like it had any real stakes or tension. Downright terrible photography, not one good shot. Lex Luthor was the best part but he was too cartoonish.>Fantastic FourTechnically a more competent film. Has a more unique setting and an unusually dramatic focus for a capeshit movie. Yet it was still completely unremarkable.
>>154700568Thunderbolts*
>>154704391>>154704411It's crazy how there is a campaign trying to convince people that 2025 Superman was comic accurate and a love letter to the golden and silver age when it's the Guardians of the Galaxy pretending to be DC characters. Superman isn't some harmless doofus that is completely incapable to control his emotions and fails to inspire other heroes because they think he is a joke.
>>154700568Man of Steel
>>154702248The last “comic accurate” movie was Superman III.
>>154700568Fantastic 4 was better. The Silver Surfer scene around the black hole and seeing Galactus for the first time is better than anything in Superman. The homage at the beginning was excellent as well.Superman was solid, but didn't have anything really exceptional to it.
>>154700568Right was fun and the retro future aesthetic was appealing. The extras even seemed fairly realistic.Left is just James Gunn getting high off his own hype after his daily pegging.
>>154700568>better Superman >better family
>>154701354>unnecessary>>154700773I would have preferred if they had cut the Justice Gang out entirely and spent that screen time buffing up the Daily Planet, not to give Lois more screen time, but a bit more of her IN CONNECTION with Jimmy (and some solo time for Jimmy), ditto for Cat, Steve and Perry. The Kents, except for the one speech towards the end, were bad casting choices but I would have preferred a few more minutes with them and Gunn could have proved me wrong, Ma Kent got treated as a joke, at that actresses' expense. The entire family montage at the end, besides being faked up - and being bad schoops and other low quality efforts at creating a photographic and video past, would have been more effective if a well cast Ma and Pa Kent had gotten some actual, effective screen time.
>>154705898Papa Johns
>>154705898>groomer cuckold show Fuck off.
>>154704833>harmless One of the plot points is that he flew a world leader into the desert and shoved him against a cactus. Also Lex's scheme is the same from the first Luthor story and they even worked in him having a flying fortress. They just didn't have him wear a green snuggie.
>>154706762How is it that?
>>154705244It wasn't comic accurate
>>154708203Steel was from another universe where he was married to Lois. Why? Cause they wanted sexual tension between them to make Superman a cuck. Also the actor who signed on to play Jon got cucked out of being Superboy, then he got talking into doing sexualized scenes and funny enough his character in the comics became bisexual. The producers were obviously grooming him to do gay shit and that's why he quit. Heck I bet they floated the idea to Tom Taylor in the first place.
>>154700568both sucked but superman sucked way less
>>154704268Because they'll end up like the DBrownZ fanbase where they get everything wrong about itSee also: Dragon Ball Multiverse
>>154708760This is the correct answer. Also Pedro Pascal just doesn't work as Reed. I'm not talking about the race thing, he just lacks the gravitas or even look of the type of character Reed is. And Marvel completely pussied out by not having it be an actual 60s period piece but set in some alternate retro-futuristic 60s-ish dimension.
>>154700568I like them both but I'd go Superman.
TRVTH NVKE: The FF are kind of boring and haven't really been good since the 60s (bbbbbut Byrne, but Hickman, but the current North run: fuck off). The FF are great as CHARACTERS but can't carry a book/movie on their own. They work best interacting with the rest of Marvel.
>>154700568Why would someone make a poster without a title
>>154709011Superman is a big enough pop culture icon that just showing the character and his famous symbol is enough.
>>154700568I would like F4 10x better if it was a clean slate reboot of the whole MCU and this retro-futurist alternative world was our new baseline.
>>154700568I liked both. Superman was full of flaws, but was still entertaining. F4 was too formulaic, but was also entertaining
>>154709413I think the same honestly.
>>154708939You gay and wrong
>>154700568Superman F4 had a lot of potential despite the casting, but they just weren't cut to do the whole "Oh yeah, they are already established and they face their big bad", the characters still felt underwhelming, mainly Ben.Which is ironic what they were going for, because Superman felt more like reading a comic of a series that I haven't read in a while, or a take that's not meant to be "canon" to the main storyline, and pretty damn good at it. Casting was excellent. And while I still have some issues with it (terrible cinematography, the colors, the removal of the title cards, a lot of overexplained stuff, the Engineer, Ultraman not being Bizarro by the end) I think it did a good job for Supes, a movie that doesn't try to make the character "cool" like MoS, but doesn't try bore you like Returns.Kinda sucks that Supergirl was ass tho, I think Mille seem likeable but her movie just totally sucked.
>>154700568Watched them both on the same week and definitely felt Superman was better. You can really tell a lot in F4 was cut out. With that said, still liked both and dont mind them getting a sequel (though the F4 sequel aint ever happening).
>>154700568Superman is very rewatchable as a movie itselfF4's cast is unfortunately not it but the retro visuals are cool, hope they do that for every MCU movie after the reboot
>>154700568superman has the better memes
>>154710581>though the F4 sequel aint ever happeningHow do you figure?
>>154703448I choose neither then.
>>154700568Id say Superman. Solely based on the fact that I like Superman more than the Fantanstic 4. I think they are boring. I didn't see either movie BTW.
>>154708939Sure thing, unc
>>154700568They are having a mid off
>>154710729Movie didnt do well enough, at best theyre becoming cameo merchants in other movies like many other characters, or at worst its another full reboot post secret wars
>>154710803That was not an option.
>>154702198Kek
>>154702198Funny thing is that guy shits gold later
>>154711492That is a very idiotic take.
>>154708756Oh you have brain rot
>>154700568Ahaha imagine cooming on Vanessa Kirby and Rachel Brosnahan's faces at the same timeSuperman
>>154700568I enjoyed both.
>>154708756
>>154700568Neither, I'd rather watch paint dry
>>154700568Both were fine but nothing amazing. Superman has a great cast, but I didn't like the direction it went in a lot of scenes. And I get why they made F4 as safe as they did, but there were many odd cuts that felt like a good half of the movie was missing. Wouldn't really call either one awful.
>>154713525boring
>>154713525That’s a bit much but I’d certainly rather watch a guy on YouTube restore an old piece of furniture, and did so
>>154713341
>>154700568Superman. I love FF and retro futurism but the story was bland and some of the effects were so bad i think some of it was actually ai sloppa.Superman wasn't the greatest film i've ever seen but clark saving people and being incredulous that people are asking if hes being political when he just stopped innocent people from being killed and thats being treated as a statement to get you cancelled on twitter felt like a realistic take on superman we havent seen on screen before.
>>154715128Nice feet on Mrs. woman
>>154715128What the heck? She looks like this but was so ugly in the film?
>>154700568Superman by default since I've never seen Fantastic Four, though frankly I don't care to.>>154702989>But I really loathe>>actually the character hates the thing that they like in the source materialI've been feeling this way for a while now and I'm so glad to see more people come around to it. Superhero shit is inherently silly, it's tiring that the studios constantly try to be above it (pic related). One of the things I loved about Superman was that it wasn't afraid to lean into that.
>>154700568Put both in the bin.
>>154713341>>154715128>>154715341>/co/mblr being homos againi hate the invisible hag
>>154715531Nigga you gay
>Superman: Ironic post modern shit (Superman being earnest while everyone else was shitting on him even Lois)>F4: Family and traditional values
>>154715128Why did she bog herself? She was very attractive until maybe last year. >>154715531Gay asf
>>154706483Yeah I was really disappointed at the lack of screen time for both the Kents and the Daily Planet. Too much of the money was spent trying to include other things rather then focus on a strong narrative.
>>154715651>>154715838nice try queers
>>154715128She's old, but she has a very classy look. Like top tier genetics / high pedigree.
>>154716160This
>>154715128actually good looking feet
>>154700568Why is everyone so old in these movies? Hawkgirl was the only main character in her 20's in both movies. Feels weird to have these big supposedly franchise starting roles all be by actors in their mid to late 30's at the youngest.
>>154703029Gunn also made Ma and Pa Kent into mouth-breathing hick caricatures
>>154717398He didn't
>>154709413I think that's what endeared me to Superman more, it was a messy as fuck movie but they nailed the core of it.
>>154716144you gay anon
>>154716160>>154716423she's literally a prole lmao>>154717906wrong
>>154715316>Superman wasn't the greatest film i've ever seen but clark saving people and being incredulous that people are asking if hes being political when he just stopped innocent people from being killed and thats being treated as a statement to get you cancelled on twitter felt like a realistic take on superman we havent seen on screen before.Literally BvS.
>>154717912Except BvS was a bad movie
>>154717912The only saving Superman did in that movie was some gay montage that was immediately overshadowed by all the man of murder bullshit.
>>154715128Too bad she got bogged in the Doomsday trailer.
>>154717912It's nothing like BvS
>>154717937>>154717972>>154718165You never watched the movie outside of twitter opinions LMAOOO
>>154717912(you)
>>154718718nigga I watched the goddamn movie at my local cinema it wasn't the masterpiece you snyderfags pretend it is
>>154718718I watched that shit in theaters and tried to cope it was good.
>>154700568I only saw Superman after my legs were fucked so that
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>>154700568still haven't seen either
>>154715128not bad
>>154708756>schizo headcanonfuck off
>>154713298>>154713498>>154723099>Seething over this for daysIt must be true.
>>154723114prove it retard
>>154705221We're not talking about Snyderslop tho; we're talkin about Superman 2025 vs Fantastic Four 2025
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>>154700568Superman was better than most MCU films. F4 was one of the weaker MCU films.
>>154724265>Superman was better than most MCU filmsFuck no
>>154700568Superman is like reading a disposable Superman comic, and I have no interest in FF4. Japan has been doing this for decades with much less money, and I can’t help but wonder what they’d do if they had a “low” Hollywood budget. Like 40 million (I think that’s not much) to make a toku movie. I think it would turn out more tasteful than most superhero movies. I say this as someone who is a fan of the *Man of Steel* movie.
>>154724301It's true tho
>>154724375Nah
>>154724301What's the weakest mcu movie that was better than Superman 25?
>>154700568suppamahn
>>154717937Of course it was, it didn’t have characters looking directly at the screen and spilling their backstories alongside the movie’s plot through speeches to help you follow what’s going on and who everyone is.
>>154718165Even the visuals are blatantly copied, only made worse in the process.
>>154724868Why didn't Superman just tell Luthor he was a retarded monster? He was about to destroy the planet. What was Luthor's plan after that? Calling Darkseid and asking for a new planet?
>>154725012I’m assuming you mean BvS and not SM, but honestly, as much as I enjoy BvS, I’m not going to get into a long back-and-forth debate about its merits. This thread is, after all, about the recent DCU/MCU movies.
>>154725114Is this bait or are you stupid? 2025 Luthor unleashed a black hole in Metropolis and the entire world was about to get sucked into it. And Murderman told tech bro Luthor what any superman would tell to a villain of his level.
I think I prefer Superman because Fantastic Four really feels like they ripped 20 minutes out of the movie and really sidelined the Thing.
>>154704268These guys are so great I haven't been able to decide how to rank them after all these years. All I know is Yusuke's my favourite
>>154700568wow cool posters
