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There's entirely too much shit in this movie.
After years of watching these movies I don’t feel anything. They should’ve waited to save him until the second FF movie. Or at least replace Kang. This is nostalgia pandering to the max.
This looks good, but why does every other actor in these movies look like a fat social worker now? I used to think these movies were cool and that they were something to be looked up to as a standard of lifestyle and creativity, coming from Hollywood, starring charismatic people, but they keep hiring doughy-lookin’ motherfuckers who constantly break immersion with their obesity and underdeveloped beards.
>>154708552So you want them to be social conditioning again?
>>154708491Thought I saw Butcher for a second This movie gonna be 4 hours long, what the hell
>>154708567Well, I do like mind control, but if you’re talking about black supremacist agitprop like Black Panther, then no.
>>154708491Nothing short of a DC/Marvel crossover could ever rekindle my interest in the modern MCU.
Holy FUARK he did the Jiren thing
>>154708491It's too bright
>>154708491Nice to see Steve again
>>154708491Old men yaoi between Xavier and Magnus
>>154708612The MCU still has the mega crossovers to pump up their fuel. Once that is also gone,they might try and do it. I feel like Marvel/DC will always be the last resource for Disney and WB.
>>154708552>something to be looked up to as a standard of lifestyle and creativity,Why would look up to actors ? Are you that parasocial ?
>>154708491>Doom mourning his wife and kidKek the leaks were real
>>154708678return to roman thought on actors
who is playing mystique? that didn't look like Jennifer or Rebecca
>>154708491
>>154708678That's just how Hollywood works. Over a 100 years shaping the minds of the public in order to get them in line with the establishment. Only diffrence now is that they're doing it with people considered unattractive.
>>154708491Nice gemini poster.
My HERO will stop DOOM.
>>154708690I'm more confused by the outfit. Didn't the original product shots of costumes leak with her in the old-school skull belt white gown costume?
>>154708690It's Rebecca
>>154708684The ones where he cared more about Cap than Reed?
I felt nothing
>>154708702too simple and iconic, needed some arbitrary lines and complications
>>154708712Yeah. Further leaks have said that Doom and Reed do have a rivalry in the film, but the specific incident of his deformity and loss of his family is pinned on Steve.
>>154708491>man that was kinda underwhelming>am I jaded?>go back and watch Infinity Wars first trailer>looked greatI've concluded two things. One this movie is gonna be lukewarm. And two whoever is in charge of making trailers nowadays needs to be beaten with a sack of potatoes because holy shit as I'm typing this I realize I'm being generous by calling the trailer simply underwhelming. That sucked. All that shit you desperately got back and I didn't feel anything.
>>154708719Come on. Thor coming down hard on the villain in the exact same way, again. Cap being worthy, again. The geriatric X-Men bidding farewell, again. Don't act like it's not exciting.
>>154708491>Mm-Mr. S-Stark..!? YOU KNOW IT'S COMING>Tony Stark is the key to all this...
>>154708730>"Marvel, this is the fourth time those X-Men have said farewell"
>>154708542ThisIt's going to succeed no doubt about it but what precedent does it set for film? Just keep nostalgia peddling except bigger? This is just the equivalent of smashing all your DBZ action figures against your Superman action figures. Is Pooh's Adventures going to be hollywood's endgame?
>>154708491Am I just being paranoid, or does that tapestry took AI generated?
Does that poster confirm Doom had a wife and kid? Hope they aren’t removing the mommy issues aspect.
>>154708790>Hope they aren’t removing the mommy issues aspectSeems like they totally are. The film is already overstuffed to go into Mephisto and Cynthia (plus none of the leaks mention them once), and they're tying Doom's motivation and origin directly into the incursions to streamline the plot.
They literally can't keep getting away with it.
>>154708690Rebecca but she's completely covered up and her hair looks bad
>>154708790It's Steve's wife and kid, Doom is obsessed w/ them like w/ Sue and Franklin in comics, it's in the leaks
>>154708697So you have a parasocial relation with them
>>154708612This would be a disaster. If they have trouble controlling egos and have to count every punch given by every character like fucking autists in comics, I can't imagine the level of autism Hollywood producers would reach trying to "even the field" between chars of both companies.
>Downey trying to pull the Gypsy/Eastern Euro accent
>>154708830This does not look as good when it's not on a 22 year old
>>154708491I feel if this was a new X-Men cast it'd be more exciting. Also Doom had absolutely no set up, why the fuck wasn't he the villain of First Steps?
>>154708836I'm not the anon you were responding to, just explaining why people do that type of thing.
Where's Sentry
>>154708830he's gonna get a ton of crisspoints for this
>>154708690Rebecca but she was MCU'ed (meaning: use bad make up, bad prop suits, and bad CGI to make her an abomination of a character)
>>154708787Marvel fired a lot of VFX workers and the Russos were at Netflix for a while, where their CEO admitted they've been using AI in their movies, so I'm thinking you're not crazy.
>>154708854Doom was never intended for FS, it really was just a last minute pivot. According to the info we have, RDJ signed for Doom like two weeks before FF started shooting, and ever since 2023 Marvel has tried to kept rewrites and reshoots under control, so they didn't want to modify the existing script in such a short amount of time.
>>154708491Is Mystique being portrayed by any of the previous franchise actresses?
>>154708867He and The Void will job to Doom
>>154708830It seems like Cyke and the X-Men as a whole won't play a significant role in the plot.
>>154708854That would've tied him to the F4 instead of STEVE ROGERS MUH CAP MIH CIVIL WAR MUH GAY RELATIONSHIP WITH TONY STARK
>>154708891Yes
>>154708891Yes, it's the original one.
>>154708612My only reason to watch capeshit is just to have something to talk about even if it is just shitting on them
>>154708491Anyone else think it's retarded how the X-Men, Deadpool, Fantastic 4 were not part of Infinity and Endgame? Only Spiderman is more popular than Wolverine. It felt like there were key characters missing for the big battle.
>>154708931They are supposed to be from other universes
>>154708491They changed my nigga H.E.R.B.I.E's design
>>154708830Ah yes, have the yellow straps be thin and go straight up his chest instead of across it, that is sure to generate visual interest and not look retarded.>>154708720I'm sad man. She was so hot back then. If only the classic costume was used.>>154708639Hela already did it so I don't get why they expect Thor the designated jobber will generate any reaction again.>>154708848For a second he sounded like N. Gin from Crash or a bad Peter Lorre impression.
>TVA card in the trailerI guess that shitty outline that leaked was real.
I don't really like Doom's voice
>>154708491>rebuilt mjolnir>bring back cap to use it for nostalgiabaitmy boy will never get the respect he deserves. why even have mjolnir and stormbreaker exist simultaneously?
>>154708491Sorry, I just can't care anymore. I'm so fucking burnt out on comic movies at this point.
>>154708998>Hela already did it so I don't get why they expect Thor the designated jobber will generate any reaction again.That was the hammer. This is the axe. It's way more powerful in some undefined way. We've never seen anything like this before. It's whole new territory.
>>154709116Meh Clayface looks cool
>>154708491Looking good
Even as a normalfag who's only real exposure to Marvel superheroes are the>MCU>Raimi>2000s F4 and X-Men movies>a few cartoons>Insomniac gamesthis feels like they're overly playing up the danger of Dr. Doom. He's a techno wizard king, not Thanos.
>>154709129Why is Ben such a manlet?
>>154708585>Thought I saw Butcher for a secondI'd love to see him put Marvel capes in their place.
>>154709129Welcome back CW
>>154709129>Wakandans think the brown one is the leaderkek
>>154708491nice
>>154709135>this feels like they're overly playing up the danger of Dr. DoomI agree, but Doomwank is really nothing new. It's not as pervasive as Batwank, but it peaks just as high. In the comics he's canonically fought gods and even been a god himself for a while.
>>154708701Nah, they’re just gonna repeat what they did with Vision & Captain Marvel in Infinity War & EndgameHe might get some good hits in on Doom, then Doom will use his power to fuck with his head & send him Void mode, nerfing him out of the movie
>>154709136Depemnds on the artist really. Kirby drew him as just slightly taller than Reed. Tho he did seem biger in FS, so either the Russos changed his size or M'Baku is just that gigantic.
>>154708931No? They weren't around by that point, why would they be there? It was already a clusterfuck of characters.>Only Spiderman is more popular than Wolverine.Certainly not in that decade when it came out, Iron Man basically owned that time period. Captain America and Thor were also not that far behind.>It felt like there were key characters missing for the big battleIn what sense? All the roles were covered in the fight, the leader to rally around, Kung fu bitches, tech guys, powerhouses, even magic.
>Jonathan Hickman watching Doomwank be co-opted by Robert Downey Jr.’s ego and tainting the character for the next decade.
>>154709120Kek.>>154709135Doom should be Thanos-tier and is better than Kang to headline two Avengers movies. The problem is that Marvel did fuck all to build up Doom. They are pulling him out of only the FF movie with only his connection being to them. Thanos got his presence hinted at throughout the movies. Even though that was kinda shittily done since Thanos and his character ended up boring in comparison to the comics where he was fun to watch as a egomaniacal villain who truly did not care for life. Doom needs the same treatment but better where he continually thwarts each hero in each movie until they meet him in the one they are making now. So yeah they're greedy and forcing it when we all know this is going to backfire. Doom winning in the first movie will be a retread of Thanos.
>>154709129Do the cinematographers just have no concept of shot composition anymore?
Looks like slop's back on the menu boys
>>154708491So if this fails will they hold off a couple of years maybe at least 5 or so before they do something big again? Or is it still profitable to shit out a movie or two every year so they can make money on merch?
>>154709198Sorry for samefagging but I forgot to mention but Doom's whole entire deal is him being the one villain other than Thanos who conceivably meets and has some interaction or connection to all the characters in the 616. So the fact they are just rushing it now also kinda taints it. Also Shang Chi is motherfucking boring and having to have hin fight Gambit instead of anyone else is boring.
>>154708830It looks good, but what's the point? They're casting new X-Men right now, and these are not the same X-Men from the Fox movies, so I coudn't care less.
Leak readers, does he have any connection with the F4 still or is it just Steve?
>>154709215They'll just go directly to the X-Men which everyone has been waiting for
>>154709215if this fails will they have to hold off a couple of years because the money just won't be there
This leak was confirmed by the trailers and the new poster. Take it or leave it.
>>154709244I'm already exhausted by the first sentence.
I think this will make like $700m
>>154708514Feels like I'm reading a comic book desu
>>154709231Both. He blames Steve for being the one who started the incursion chain reaction (by choosing to stay with Peggy instead of returning to the main MCU) which get his family killed. As for the FF, he's native to their universe and by the start of the film, it's made clear they know eachother beforehand. Their rivalry is apparently built throught these two films.
>>154709244Wasn’t Monica Rambeau sent to the X-Men’s world before?
>>154709319It literally doesn't matter, its all getting wiped after these two films anyway
>>154709215No.The truth is the train derailed years ago, but it's got too much momentum and there's no stopping it - no matter how much destruction it causes.
>>154709319that's the x-men from MoM
>>154709244Oh no
Where are the Young Avengers?
>>154709244So the X-Men are villains who sacrificed many worlds to save their own? Great.
>>154709253Same. I couldn't get to the end of the first paragraph before I just went 'done' and tapped out.When did it get this bad? Or was it always this bad and we just didn't notice? I feel like we would have noticed.
>>154709099BRB is never getting adapted, same with Nova.
>>154709244But why isn't Deadpool in the ad campaign if he's part of the X-Men?
>>154708491>>154708684>>154709231>>154709244I was looking at the archive. This seems to be the most accurate leak:https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152205427/#152205427
>>154709365All the creatives and executives got hit with the stupid stick the moment Infinity War grossed billions and Endgame entered theaters.
Seems like the story is ass with the only appeal being action figures fucking each other up but this will probably be boring too.
>>154709277>As for the FF, he's native to their universeBut the leaks say he's an incursion survivor? Or did he relocate to the FF universe after that?
>>154709371It literally broke last week that a Nova film is in active development.
>>154709406There are some variables between the leaks, but some insiders have said that while they flirted with the idea of having Doom be from his own universe, they ultimately deciding against it to make the plot less convoluted.
>>154709365They've done like 70 of these movies and shows now, and the truth is they only really ever had enough good material to do about 20 or so.They're not even running on fumes at this point, they're just coasting downhill.
>>154709423I'm sorry, you're saying this is the *least* convoluted version of the plot?
>>154709185Hickman deserves worse
>>154709438Lmao yeah
What sucks is that it's just the old Marvel movies crossing over with the MCU. Where's the characters from the comics, from a Wild West era, the genderbents, hell atleast 1 hero should have been animated!
Will there be quips?
>>154709503/co/ may hate them, but that creativity exists purely with the Spider-Verse films.
>>154709185Decades
>>154708814>>154708639They're just THAT iconic.
>>154709004What leak?
>>154709391>This seems to be the most accurate leak:It mentions Shang-Chi VS. Gambit and Yelena VS. Mystique, which we see in the trailer. Checks outCan't wait for the Xmen to die again
>>154709391Whoa, this one point out shangchi vs gambit
>>154708491It looks like absolute shit.Holy fuck what happened?That small portion with The Thing is embarrassing.
>>154709548
>>154709614Marvel got blacklisted by virtually every major VFX studio because their head VFX director bragged in an interview>We ask studios to do the same shot four times so we can pick which one looks best ;)
>>154709391>>154709575>>154709595>>154709624Important to note, almost none of the leaks, even the one from the caption (which seems to be the more accurate one) delve too deep into the third act, since they probably kept it under wraps and under constant revision.
>>154709503Another thing is the "Multiverse" had so many false starts>Spider-Man Far From Home>"You idiot, the Multiverse isn't real! We used that to scam Stark Tech off you!">Wandavision"Actually, the Multiverse Stuff was fake! Here's a Boner joke!>Spider-Man No Way Home"OK, The Multiverse is real, but we can close it back up with a spell!">What If"The Multiverse is real and pretty disappointing. Also Captain Carter can solve it!">Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness "Ok, she actually can't solve it. Also you need to be asleep to travel the Multiverse unless you know this Mexican Lesbian who can punch holes into it."
>>154708491dude i surely hope this representation of X-Men is NOT the glimpse of what to expect from MCU X-Men rebootall fo them look botched in one way or another
>>154709695The X-Men are getting killed off in this movie(again) to make room for the new cast
Is it canon to comics that Doom can just tank Thor like he's fodder?How the fuck is Cap back??? What was the point of Avengers Endgame if we jsut resurrect characters from it?
It's just a speedrun of Time Runs Out.
>>154709244>>154709624That is very fake!Nice Try.
>>154709732The Marvels bombed and thunderbolts under performed so they caved and brought cap back immediately. Same reason RDJ is Doom. Rumored to be recasting T'challa and bring back Wanda.
>>154709732There's no point to any of this, anon. It's just slamming action figures together, it's all this has ever been.
>>154709758The plan to bring back Cap came before Thunderbolts underperformed.
>>154709391>Doctor Doom was disfigured and lost his family in an incursion and pretends to be a hero who wants to save the Multiverse for most of the movie in order to manipulate the Avengers into fighting to advance his goals.this whole 'pretends' goes out of the window with the trailer and premisethere should be no plot point where the villain pretends to be the good guyit's pointless and dumb
I get hyping up doom but Thor's line is pretty shitty. It's trying way too hard, could have just show Doom whooping his ass.>I've have fought with people stronger than everyone in this room combined, and they died fighting things that don't scare me as much as THIS GUY
>>154709732>Is it canon to comics that Doom can just tank Thor like he's fodder?Doom is OP as fuck, he's like Marvel's Batman, he is as powerful as the story demands.
>>154709790I think it worked for Mysterio since he was so blatantly full of shit, hard to do it with more serious villains though.
>>154709624>steve is responsible for living where he does not belongisn't technically loki the responsible one for granting him refugee status to the f4 dimension and telling him nothing bad would happen? so doom wins and avenges his family on the first half of the movie?
Whatever happened to the supposed Secret Invasion plotline? How did the MCU fast-forward all the way to Hickman's Avengers run?
I don't see much opportunity for a decent story here. It will make a ton of money, leaning off of nostalgia/cameos. But this felt old hat.
>>154709745Without all the good parts like killing the Justice League or Namor and Black Panther being dicks
This movie looks like an absolute nobodies fest, compared to infinity war I feel nothing but boredom,It's probably going to make close to a billion dollars anyway but fuck Marvel fell hard
>>154709828The last few movies didn't do well and basically everything since Shang-chi failed to get popular. The bullshit with Kang's actor happened. So they are expediting the X-men and scrapping most of the plans from that era.
>>154709835The best part of Time Runs Out was the mystery, the build-up, the drama of the Illuminati needing to become increasingly more unhinged to stop the incursions; rushing straight to the end with Doom revealing himself as Rabum Alal from day 0 just doesn't have the same effect. They're trying to re-create the same feeling of 616 vs Ultimate with MCU vs FoXmen, but the fucking FoXmen get a sad dramatic ending every other fucking movie and their official ending before Deadpool 3 was everyone dying because of corn syrup, so who the fuck cares.
>>154708491I swear I had some shits to give around here somewhere, but I can't seem to find them.
>>154709856>It's probably going to make close to a billion dollars anywayI really hope it doesn't but people are cattle. The last few movies didn't do great but they cranking out nostalgia acts for This.
>>154709732>>154709801This, Doomwank is real, but in Doom's case, he loves to show off his superiority, so it comes off more charming than Batman's "My parents are dead" and no-kill rule.
>>154709791>>154709801>>154709732Hackman Doom was a turbo Gary Stu that fodderized every single big bad in Marvel (from the Beyonders to Thanos).
>>154709790He's the only one from the main cast with solid knowledge about incursions, which are the immediate threat.
>>154709732Cap never died. His return isn't that egregious. But they never really explained where old Cap went after endgame
>>154709828>Whatever happened to the supposed Secret Invasion plotline?It got wrapped in a show which was so bad (and which nobody saw), it made Marvel themselves reestructure their entire studio in order to right the ship.
Realistic speaking after DOOM, what else can they do? I heard they’re planning to reboot after the battleworld movie but what happens to doctor strange? Where’s captain Marvel?
>>154708491>no CarolNo care
I think part of why there's less hype and anticipation is due them having cold feet on the "multiverse" aspect as well as to not really building up to Doom until like the last movie.>Its actually Kang's story and had to replace his characterOk but you could still tease Doom in a few more films prior, like they ought to have tried to keep that original post credit ive heard of Captain America: Brave New World where Leader supposedly detects the multiverse collapse/Doom coming. Maybe also have like the Loki series do a post credit scene where Doom kills a Kang, even with Jonathan Majors case going on surely they could cobble some stock footage of him from either Ant-man or the Loki series being killed by Doom, don't even need to worry about using RDJ contract appearance thanks to the mask.
>>154709959X-Men stuff. Probably Apocalypse. I don't think they will try to keep the X-Men and Avengers stories seperate.
>>154709980F4 needed two movies before getting looped into the larger universe instead of having them travel across universes as after-credits. Also needed to not waste our time with Pedro and instead cast someone who can actually play an inspiring leader as Reed.
>>154709959I think after this it’ll just be X-Men and Spider-Man movies.
Tobey dying in the opening scene makes me DROP this movie.
>>154709959The X-Men will 100% be in the spotlight.
>>154709244this was all inevitable after Secret Wars
>>154709959Feige himself has said that they're not rebooting, just adjusting the timeline a bit. Most of the actors will continue, with the biggest difference being that mutants now exist in masse and the FF relocate to the main universe. As for the next saga, is going to be mutant centric.
>>154710019This is not Tobey from the Raimi movies, but a variant.
>>154709959They'll have to reboot. Even then I yhink it's over for everyone but Spider-Man
>>154710019His and Hugh's fate are left ambiguous. They're probably revealed to be alive near the end since they're rumoured to be main characters in SW.
>>154710027>>As for the next saga, is going to be mutant centric.It'll be Krakoa into Sinister into the dominions shit which will let them bring back all the cosmic stuffwe will never escape Arrako
>>154710042>Horowitz - What does the MCU look like in a nutshell coming out of secret wars? Do you consider this a reboot?>Feige - No, but I look to the comics, as I always do, in terms of our storytelling and after both the secret wars, but particularly the the Hickman secret wars from 10 years ago, there's a nice roadmap to where we can go.From an interview released last night while promoting BND.
>>154710041How is he a variant? He has to be The Raimiverse Spider-Man.Also isn't the X-Men from DOFP the same as the ones in Doomsday? And all their time travel wankery is why they're getting an incursion? If they actually used previous lore from different movies never connected to the MCU to explain this one, it'd still be retarded but it'd be fun as fuck.
>>154710049>which will let them bring back all the cosmic stuffCould be, since them planning to make a Nova film shows they're interested on keeping the cosmic stories alive.
>>154708491Showed my little brother who is almost halfway through the MCU and he thought this was an AI fake lol
>>154710056So All New All Different Marvel? Can't wait for Nigger Iron Man and Tranny Cap.
The only 2 MCU movies I saw after Endgame were No way home and Deadpool & Wolverine, I don't intend to catch up with the new lore and I will be watching this exclusively to see the cool fights and the Xmen dying for the bilionth time
>>154710059He is the same from the Raimi movies indeed. As for the X-Men, it works in a "squint your eyes and it fits together" way. That timeline is a colossal fuck.up, but in order to streamline the plot, just take them as the X-Men from the end of DoFP.
>>154710079Good newsThey abandoned all new lore and are doing everything off Endgame pretty much
>>154708491Doom already with no build up. Phase 6 was completely pointless then
>>154710059>How is he a variant?He'll be wearing a high-tech suit created by Doctor Octopus. In the Raimi movies, Doc Ock died, but this is the variant universe created after the events of NWH in which all Spidey villians are alive.
>>154710079You're the target audience.
>>154710084Poor Toby. He's a street-level superhero, and in his own universe, he's completely alone. He doesn't stand a chance against interdimensional threats.
>>154709391>Doomsday Doom is from a separate universe>FF Doom is just a petty asshole
>>154710079Oh yeah I just remembered I also saw Thor love and thunder and ant man 3 but they were so forgettable that I actually memory holed them wow
>>154709662The script wasn't finished by the time these leaks started to roll out, it is entirely possible things have been changing but the main idea has stayed the same.
>>154710147Ok but watch Quantumania after eating an edible. Funniest shit you’ll ever watch
>>154709886Wait a minuteIf doom becoming sorcerer supreme meant he became king of the world, does that mean strange is normally supposed to be king of our world
>>154710161That sounds fucking miserable boss
>>154710019I mean, we're NEVER going to see Raimi's Spidey 4, so why not destroy that universe with a bang?
COUNCIL OF KANGINCURSION CRASHING THROUGH YOUR VEINCOUNCIL OF KANGREPLACED DYNASTY FOR DOOMSDAY
>>154710181Nah it’s hilarious. Especially when the army of ants comes in to save the day
>>154709732>>154709764>industry meant to serve as a vehicle for advertising and peddling inevitably turns to slop no matter what medium it latches ontoSay it ain't so
>>154708542>years of watching these moviesAre you stupid?>>154708552>this looks goodThe fact that you're considered to be the same species as me is astounding. It should be a public good to put down people like you.
>>154710147Thor 4 was bad but Bale was great.Ant-Man 3 was awful and they massacred Cassie as a character.
>>154710076Yeah, that's basically it. From what I've heard before from some other leaks, they were considering a reboot mainly because they were also getting rumors of DC "rebooting" to have the upper advantage. But they were too afraid to let go some of their "storylines" with certain shows and movies, and obviously some casting choices like Holland. So they did this half ass reboot like All New All Different, but without most characters.Some characters are going to be recasted tho. Some others won't. It's some stupid shit that will probably end up where they started.
Where the fuck is doctor strange in all of this???
>>154710218What will actually happen is most of the casuals who only got on the MCU train when it was the new hot thing will cry that Evans isn't Cap anymore even though he retired the role 7 years ago, The MCU is done after Secret Wars. Casuals are the actual people they want to court.
>>154709732Are you familiar with comic books at all?
>>154710094All the phases were pointless you buffoon. The worst thing about comic books is continuity and the fact that they tried making a marvel comics movie continuity is pants on head retarded.
>>154710231Most leaks point out to him having a minor role in the end, and major one in Secret Warshe's also not the sorcerer supreme anymore so who the fuck cares about that strange anymore... man, why was taika the only one to give me an actual functional and good design strange.
Capcom gave Doom a fitting theme song:https://youtu.be/A8clv2G1E2w?is=7XxVJts5IA0lW_cehttps://youtu.be/lcQ853ibg08?is=9bJSpGPYxTYradt4
>>154710231Hes been in the Dormammu realm since the end of MoMHe'll probably come out with higher powerscale Might pull some Ant Man quantum realm time difference bs saying he was in there for 20 years when for us it was a week
>>154710231Didn't you watch his last movie? Charlize Theron took him to hell.
>>154708491It looks so painfully generic, the narration especially.>"We must stand together to fight together and win together against this impossible enemy that's unlike any of the previous ones - except for all the previous ones...I have no idea what the film is supposed to be about. Doom apparently turns up >>154708491and fucks shit up for no visible reason, but they're also fighting each other for no reason either.
>>154710278>He'll probably come out with higher powerscaleHe will probably be stopping a tornado while all the heroes fight too!
>>154710174>If doom becoming sorcerer supreme meant he became king of the world, does that mean strange is normally supposed to be king of our worldNo, that's just Doom being Doom.
There's more hype surrounding Spiderman bnd than this
>>154710321>There's more hype for movie(next week) than movie(end of the year)Woah
>>154710211>The fact that you're considered to be the same species as me is astounding.You can say that again.
>“In Jonathan Hickman's 'Secret Wars' from 10 years ago, there's a nice roadmap to where we can go.”What the fuck is Feige talking about? Other than Krakoa, the past ten years of Marvel editorial has just been throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks.
>>154708491Wow, this look so generic and terrible, I almost thought it was AI generated. >There's a threat coming guys it's sooo big, we'll have to TEAM UP to beat it!Huh huh, okay.>Member when cap lifted Mjolnir?!That's it?
>>154709381Deadpool is gone after Tobey and Hugh died. The three will be the leads in Secret Wars
>>154708830He'll be fucking useless and die like a bitch, AGAIN
>>154709959>>154710027Reading the leaks from Secret Wars, the universes will combine into one so we'll have the Avengers, X-Men, Spiderman and absolutely everyone in a single place. But, what does this mean for Tobey and Andrew's Spideys? Are they gonna disappear and make Tom the one and only Spider-Man? Also, what about Hugh Jackman? They are rescasting all X-Men, so if he's done?
>>154710273Strange will be Doom's sidekick. Clea probably will too, since Doom is also said to have a female follower codenamed "Natasha".
>>154708491I mean, the TVA was really based and Sylvie was hot. Can you blame Loki for how much he hates Thor and Asgard? They treat him like shit and Thor is an asshole unlike the people at the TVA and Loki himself. I’m glad he’s still happy with them and gets to die with them, I don’t care if Loki dies as long as it proves my point he’s the ultimate one above all and keeps him from being around Thor. Hope this means any connection Loki has with norsefaggotry is retconned. Loki can die happy protecting his friends and knowing he never has to see his shitty abusive brother again.
>>154710553The rumor is that the universes actually will not combine. The Fox-Verse will keep existing (and there will be more Wolverine/Deadpool/Gambit movies with Jackman, Reynolds and Tatum), the F4 and Doom will continue in their retrofuturistic 60s universe and just pop up in the MCU whenever needed, Raimi-Verse and Webb-Verse still around in case Sony wants to use them, etc.
>>154710019I honestly don't mind, sounds like a cool what the fuck start for the movie. And besides, we know both Tobey and Hugh die in the opening scene, and in Secret Wars we'll have Tobey, Hugh, Tom, and Deadpool working as a team to try and fix everything. That ought to be an interesting dynamic
>>154710593Then what the fuck is the point of these two movies
>>154710646To allow all these characters to interact and profit off of it.
>>154709915Secret Invasion wasn't that bad, but the production was such an absolute clusterfuck that it forced Marvel to restructure their television production model.
>>154709980>I think part of why there's less hype and anticipation is due them having cold feet on the "multiverse" aspect as well as to not really building up to Doom until like the last movie.I think it's a lot simpler than that: I think people are just done with comic book movies and want the trend to move on to the next thing.
>>154710266Phase 1 sets up shield and the avengers. Phase 2 sets up Thanos. Phase 3 is the pay off where everyone goes at it. Phase 4 is just a bunch of random shit since they abandoned the kang plotline. Phase 5 has just been about cock teasing the mutants. Remove phase 1, 2, or 3, and nothing will make sense. As for the shared universe in the comics, it started sucking when they began writing around the most popular characters, rather than just write stories rhat make sense within their established universe. Like what the fuck is Spider-Man, a street level character, doing in a multiversal battle royal with cosmic forces
>>154710690>Secret Invasion wasn't that badIt was retarded nonsense.
>>154710690See, this is one of those things that didn't make sense for the current storyline. We're supposed to be doing all this multiverse shit, but here's the sequel to Captain Marvel, stretched out over nine hours for some reason.
>>154710690I wonder if Disney+ plus are dead now
>>154709160More like the Orange one
>>154710723Eh, there were silly bits, but overall it was decent.
>>154710276ArcSys theme sounds like he's a Villain not a track theme from racing game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZFfcFl2cLs
>>154710231He's revealed to be a part of Doom's covenant during the third act per most insiders. He has a bigger role in SW, confirmed by Cucumber himself.
I really truly went into it open-minded but after watching that trailer nothing about this is interesting to meMore ensemble slop with all the characters that had failed movies
>>154710423He probably means "keep the main world intact, just fold in some assets from other continuities" (probably the FF and Jackman's Wolverine, since they don't want to replace him yet.
It's still wild how Marvel consistently comes up with the most batshit convoluted storylines for their biggest events, and yet they can't make a fucking Blade movie You'd figure that they should have an easier time writing a story about a cool black dude fighting vanpires, but apparently it's impossible for Disney marvel
falcon was some nobody side character even by endgame and now he's like the third biggest returning character in the trailer after thor and loki when his movie flopped. Thor and loki are probably dead so its just gonna be him and antman as anyone notable. still cant believe they made the worst fantastic four movie ever with plastic woman and mr browntastic. its gonna suck so fucking bad.
>>154710833>and Jackman's Wolverine, since they don't want to replace him yet.Why? He's got two, maybe three movies tops left before he's too old.
>Thor calling the new Avengers shit compared to the OGWow, i can't believe they went there
WOWEE ZOWEE!!
Capeshitfags got what you fucking deserve
>>154711022 Sam went through a complete character assassination, In his first movie he was a counselor helping veterans with PTSD I guess they've forgot about that when in his show he treats Walker like a piece of shit with zero empathy, and we see in his introduction he's already struggling with it quietly before anything happens to Lamar. They could have elevated Sam to be closer to Steve's level by tapping into that dynamic. Sam could've connected to walker man to man, make him realize his trauma is causing him to lash out, its ok to take a break and work through it.Then it wouldve been even more Impactful when walker returns with a clear head as US Agent. Sam sets him straight with words not by jumping him in a warehouse and kicking his assThe thing that made Steve Captain America was his character not the shield, that was always the understanding. But the only thing Sam has is the shield, Which corrupted him since the moment he got it he went from being a good man to an uppity bully. Funny enough Sam's actions as Captain America are exactly what they were trying to portray Walker as and Walker was the reasonable one
>>154710969Writers strike fucked Blade, I think. They had to reshuffle a lot because of that. Also the initial plot aboit his daughter had to be reworked because no one liked it
>>154711033I imagine they want to give him the role of Old Man Logan, like it was for a while in the comics aftr SW. That and the more obvious reason that he's a guaranteed moneymaker, and they want to exploit him as far long as they can.
>>154711130Pretty embarrassing to admit you’re on this board for something other than comics, when the only other dogshit posted here is digital circus and that hazbin trash
>>154711150>Walkerfags crashing out AGAINMust be Tuesday.
>>154711153>Also the initial plot aboit his daughter had to be reworked because no one liked itThat's been proven false again and again.
>>154711153I don’t want to sound too much like a chud, but they really fucked themselves with all the woke shit. It made people stop giving a shit
>>154711150Do you want to see Captain America apply for a boat loan? Do you want to see Captain America sue his friend over copyrights? What's with this guy and paperwork?
>>154711150>has the better movie>haters turning around on him>on the team that better has the ideals of Steve during Civil War >literally fist deep in Ghost pussyWalker Won
>>154709266It will have a huge opening but terrible legs
>>154711211Has it? So many leaks come out it's hard to know what's real.>>154711243It's the truth. Echo, Iron Heart, She-Hulk and even Sam's show were more about the message than telling a good story. I liked Hawkeye a lot and thought they finally got the TV show formula figured out but they proved me wrong.
Only watching it for the Sentry and Thor. Any leaks on what Sentry will do?
>>154711195 Walker was always in the right Especially including when he killed that terrorist, Acting fully within his legal authority to protect the public in a NATO country where he was lawfully operating from an armed and dangerous suspect I guess you expected him to just put a pair of handcuffs on the super soldier that just blew up a building running through the streets and throwing concrete blocks at civilians?
>>154711183I'm here to talk about (good) cartoons
>>154711339In a just world he'd btfo Doom in ten minutes and spend the rest of the run time with his waifu. But he'll probably get kidnapped, job and act as the Molecule Man for Secret Invasion.
>>154711376>Miles gives MM a burger>Doom losesLiterally what was Hackman thinking with this ending?
>>154708491>HOLA SENIORITA IMMA DA KING OD OCEANS ESSE!Literally what were they thinking with this?
>MCU Hulk still being SHITFUCK YOU!
>>154711529Why are you surprised that Namor was made into a wetback?
>>154711339>Any leaks on what Sentry will do?there's been a bunch of rumors, i've seen him being sent to stop an incursion on his own, taking molecule man's place, professor x shutting the void down and leaving bob with full control of his powers, and they built a set for his mom's house
>>154711563>X shutting down Void and allowing Bob to Sentry it up with impunityKino
>>154711556Fuck you Carlos you fucking beaner you ruined my favorite anti-hero you scumbag.
My HEROES will BTFO Doom.
>>154711529I thought it was an inspired choice. Only problem was that he wasn’t roided out, and the generic MCU costume designers made the sea Mexicans look pretty dull. Attuma was pretty cool tho. Kinda Mogged namor desu
>>154711529he's just not hot enough for namor
>>154709391Steve VS Peggy? what, is he going to smack his bitch up?
>>154711483Just "I need to get Miles in 616 per editorial"
>>154708722They turned him into Zemo
I am so confused about the X-Men characters and whether they are the same or not.>X-Men 1, 2, 3 - DOFP ends with a new timeline - Logan set in 2029 is the continuation of said new timeline>Deadpool 3 set in 2024, he grabs Wolverine from the new Fox timeline but a younger version of him>Doomsday X-Men are the original X-Men aka the X-Men from the new timeline after DOFP but before LoganDid I get it right? Let's pretend the Avengers comment from Logan means the Fox universe has or had an Avengers group, but they simply don't matter, just like the Tobey Spider-Man universe has a Doctor Strange
>>154708491Are you sure they have enough characters?
>>154711810there's also the X-Men with Binary
>>154711810I don't think the writers even know and they definitely don't care. They are just treating them like they are the contemporary comic versions of these characters. They may vaguely reference a previous movie or event every now and again but it's not really relevant to the story being told.
I mostly excited to see Scott act confused as fuck and telling everyone that Kang is coming only for Dr Doom to show up
>>154711306>Has it?Yes. The daughter was a fixture in all the drafts they've cycled through. She was never the problem.
>>154711810Logan is an entirely different timeline from the new one made at the end of DOFP, I think. Pretty sure it's:OG Timeline>X-Men>X2>X-Men Last Stand >Origins and Wolverine movies >X-Men First Class>X-Men DOFPDOFP Time Line>Dark Phoenix>Apocalypse>Deadpool 1 & 2MCU Timeline>Deadpool 3Elseworlds>Logan>New Mutants
Susan Bogdanoff
>>154711898If they've scrapped the drafts with the daughter she may have been an issue.
>>154711627No, MY heroes will
>>154711867I wonder how many people will walk out if it actually begins with Tobey getting smoked.
>>154711339In terms of aura farming, a leak said at one point he stops two Earths from collisioning with his own hands. It's probably the main MCU and the X-Men one, since some insiders said that Xavier helps Bob trun into the Sentry without awakening the Void.
>>154711907>Logan is an entirely different timeline from the new one made at the end of DOFP, I thinkIt WAS meant to be that way, but D&W overcomplicated it by retconning it. Now, Logan DOES take place in the mainline Fox timeline.
>>154711810Yeah, that's about right. Only thing to be comletely disregarded are the non-Deadpool films (and Logan) post DoFP.
>>154711973All the Deadpool movies play fast and loose with canon. They're barely in line with the main X-Men movies since the first one so I assume they can be ignored. Just apply the MST3K logic to it.
>>154711150>>154711022Yeah, Sam went through a bigger character assassination than the comics lolAs much as I don't like the trope of "diversity characters under a white man's previous role", I can deny that it is workable with how they treated Miles in the Spiderverse movies, but Falcon as Cap has always felt so fucking wrong by how much they mutilate him into being just Rogers but a negro, and barely playing with the said concept. The MCU started pretty good for him for once and they once again botched him to be Cap's personal petboy, then put him on the same robes and never do anything interesting with his character, or the things that worked before for him. Don't think better writing for him would've made people forget Evan's Rogers but at least not make him so forgettable.
>>154711810
>>154711552BND is finally bringing back Savage at least
Hulk hasn't been cool since 2008.
>>154712044Nigger.
>>154711991he's in...
>it's a Thor jobs so you see how strong the bad guy is episode Just call him Worf>>154712044Real. Was he even in the trailer?
>>154712054Faggot.
>>154708612This would've been amazing, but WB has had far too many braindead retards calling the shots for DC to have a successful movie universe that the MCU could crossover with, and now it's far too late.
I don't like hippy Cap, he just looks stupid
>>154711993I'd say D&W did take it more seriously since the canonicity of Logan was extremely important to it's plot.
>>154712018THE MARVELS MENTIONED
>>154710019>FOR ISREAL!!!
>>154710099Wow so all of their work curing the villains was for fucking nothing. What a rip.
>>154711556
Why does it look so ugly?
>>154712095Marvel characters wouldn't survive such a crossover.
>>154710591ya lokifag…i agree. I also loveLoki but not for the reason you do :)
>>154708612I'm glad their doing the comic crossovers again, but a movie crossover is incredibly unlikely, and odds are it would be complete shit.I imagine they'd just try to rush into a half-assed version of JLA/Avengers and fail to live up to the original story.
>>154712018So Days of Future Past is responsible for Deadpools cancer?
>>154709866They really fucked themselves pigeon-holing Majors every Kang in every multiverse. With the Council of Kang, Kang is one of the few characters you can completely recast without having to explain why he's different now.
>>154712495What I dont understand is why they just didn't recast him? It's not like they haven't done it before with more important characters.
>>154708491Thi movies gonna suck
>>154708491I felt nothing. I'm just gonna watch the new Spider-Man this year.
>>154709732If it's a timeline-hopping Doom who has juiced on the Beyonder or Franklin Richards, absolutely.
>>154709129They gotta stop making things look smallHes supposed to be hulk size (almost)
>>154709371>BRB is never getting adaptedYou know there was a time when this made me sad. But looking at how the Thor franchise was handled I think it's better this way.
I'm really turned off by how many other shows and movies I need to watch just to understand the plot
>>154709135Doom is that dangerous technically, they just didnt build up to himThis is supposed to be like hickman secret wars, yet we didnt build up doomThry built up the incursions more than doom
>>154708542Panic firing Kang is quite possibly the worst decision Marvel studios has ever made
I am so glad i watched Thunderbolts even if it was absolutely shit. At least i know who these fucking new Avengers are
>>154708612That would just turn into James Gunn fellating himself for 2 hours
>>154712650You don't, unless you're autistically completionist (like me).
>>154709244Feige will be shot point blank in the middle kf times square publicly if he kills off tge rsimi earth for temu x-men
>>154712580It wasn't just about Majors. They decided Kang didn't land with audiences and pivoted based on the poor reception to Quantumania.
>>154711909All of the female hair in this movie looks like shit. I know that sounds gay but when you cover up their bodies I really start to notice how ugly the hair styling is
>>154709503I want bothSpider verse gave me both
>>154710349>theres more hype for a better movieWoah
>>154712688They really shouldn't have advertised Kang as the new Thanos, they should have used him like Loki in Thor 1 and then in a single Avengers film that kickstarts the saga and establishes the new team going forward rather than trying to one-up Infinity War/Endgame from the get-go
>>154712688Quantumania was such a fuck up. Why did they even include Kang only to have him lose so easily to an unprepared Ant Family
>>154708491It's alright but I don't feel the same hype as before since I've been largely checked out of post-endgame stuff. All the comments about this being more nostalgia bait than actual payoff feel right.
>>154709244Nothing about Black Panther or Wakanda tho
>>154712793Because Kang was originally just going to be an one-off villain for Quantumania until the middle of production when Marvel got the idea to build a saga around Majors
>>154712884Was be really? I tight he showed up before that, but maybe that was a leak or retcon.
>>154712650By the looks of it, all that's really needed is>Endgame>Loki>Multiverse of Madness>Wakanda Forever>D&W>Thunderbolts>FF
>>154712962He would originally be a one-off villain for Quantumania. Marvel loved his performance and added him to Loki and began mapping out the Multiverse Saga around him.>>154712793Because Quantumania Kang was supposed to return as the Beyonder and create Battleworld.
>>154712884>>154712962Kang was originally only meant for Quantumania, and once the Loki team heard they were gonna use him, they asked if the could turn him into He Who Remains since the storylines would align well (HWR was originally going to be an older Loki variant). That, and the Marvel execs liking Majors' perfomance on the dailies, inspired them to make him the main villain of the saga.
>>154712793It's a dark reflection of the Avengers. He can't beat a single hero on his own so he needs to assemble a team. A team of just himself because he feels like he's the only one that can do anything right. That's probably how the main Avengers felt until they started exploring the multiverse. Now they see that there's entire universes out there where they don't exist at all. Yet they still feel they are ones that get to decide which ones deserve to live and die, which are more important than others. Are they really the good guys when they are doing the same thing as the villain? A very interesting storyline that could've been told if the nigga didn't slap his hoe on camera.
If they never announced RDJ as Doom before the movie came out, do you think the face reveal of Doom would have more of an impact?
>>154712748That would require the people in charge not to be soulless money-hungry suits who are only ever thinking about their next hit
>>154709160Thats not why
>>154711907What about Legion?
>>154708491This feels like such a nothingburger. You can tell the lack of buildup because this feels like just another movie instead of a big event.
>>154712650You can tell they wanted it to feel like a direct Endgame sequel so people back then don't feel so lost
>>154708491>clusterfuck the moviedo people still get excited for this?
>>154713268Trailer feels like hearing all your favorite glup shittos are going to be in a movie together but none of them will do anything because they only get 3 minutes of screentime each.
>>154711909>bogdanoffCan I get an updated rundown?
>>154713100I thought Majors ran 7 blocks feom the white girlDid he really hit her?Its funny that he net her on the quantumanka set, that movie really ass fucked marvel in more ways than one in the long run
>>154710019Im hunting down feige for sport if that happens.
>>154710627>raimi NY dying is cool as fuckAs a brooklynite ill fucking hang you by your balls
>>154708491Doom's South African?
>>154711581>>154711563Don't forget Charles bited the dust doing thisUsually Charles dying makes me feel bad but apparently the x-men are killing raimi earth so fuck them
>>154713100>It's a dark reflection of the AvengersFunnily enough the Kang from Quantumania had elements that made him into a foil for Scott Lang. Kang is presented as this grandiose and powerful being with incredible power and yet his plans fail due to him being such an arrogant, cruel and evil tyrant that it's inevitable that other versions of himself would turn on each other or him and cause destruction. In comparison to Scott who is a humble, unassuming but heroic guy that's capable of achieving great things, like unifying multiple versions of himself under the same goal, all because they share the same love for his family.
>>154708491jesus that looks terrible
>>154709179Spider-man was always marvels top dogYoyre thinking of movie fanbkys for iron man, the average iron man movie fan cant name 10 people from his rogues gallery lmao
>>154711529>>154711633I wonder if the resident meso-autist has ever ranted about this before
>>154709244>X-men being gigacuntswell nothing new there
>>154709886>so it comes off more charming than Batman's "My parents are dead" and no-kill rule.it would be if it was just powerlevel wank instead of Doom dindu nuffin wank
>>154712095They fucked up trying to catch up to marvels infinity war, which was retarded, even from a greedy perspective. Why would you want to rush your universe instead of milking the beginning like the mcu did
>>154708692That scene with Thor is an obvious out of context fakeout and not him talking about Doom. He's going to be terrified of the Universal Incursions and the end of their universe as it's something he can't hit with his axe to stop.Still looks like a bloated mess though.
>>154713891Even with movie characters, most can't name 10 Iron-man characters.
Are people actually complaining about it being stuffed when it’s secret wars they’re adapting for devil’s sake
>>154714085I agree, but why does he talk as if it could be stopped or they could do anything about it? It's like a natural disaster; it just happens
>>154714115>when it’s secret warssecret wars was ass dude
>>154714145Has there ever been any good dc/marvel events to be fair
They really should have just stuck with Kang
Blows my fucking mind that GHOST is an Avenger, and not in a good way. Talk about leftovers. That's all this film is, Avengers Meatloaf
>>154714224Don’t talk about my wife like that
>>154709160They by passed Ava
>>154709244Marvel really hates Spider-Man, his image is all that matters not the heroism or the character. He exists to be exploited and experimented on, as a idea board to see what happens even if it's cruel and leads to him dyingm. What a sad morbid existence he leads, more so than Batman.
>>154714140Because it's a super-hero movie and you don't have the heroes say "aah jeeze, the world is ending, well, I guess we better give up and let everyone die".There's going to be a plan to stop it, Doom is going to betray them, which will lead into Secret Wars and Battleworld and after that the universe gets reset and they recast anyone they can't bring back or who is too old and keep pumping these things out.
>>154714224Thunderbolts was an actually good movie. Their team feels more like a team than the original Avengers did with less. It may be meatloaf but it's some pretty great meatloaf.
>>154709364Charles would definitely be on board with that.
This movie is nothing but shock value and cameos, that's it. I don't understand how or who thought it was a good idea to>Kill off Tobey Spidey/Wolverine from the get go>Make the X-Men assholes>Have Doom more invested in Steve Rogers than Reed Richards>Kill children I'm sure Doom will be fine but that's not enough to carry this film. Also if they really wanted to show stakes in a trailer, Doom should have parried Sentry
>>154713112yes but the box office wouldn't do great
>>154714311It's funny how they bank a lot of Doomsday in Thor reuniting with Cap as if they didn't have a total of 10 lines with each other across 4 Avengers movies. Those fucking moves were pure Tony and Steve ft everyone else.
So is Spider-man Tom Holland in this? He wasn't in the trailer
>>154714369No
>>154714369He's all tuckered out after his movie.
>>154714140>why does he talk as if it could be stopped or they could do anything about it?Because Reed has a plan to stop it using SCIENCE.
>>154709198>The Fantastic Four villain is better to headline an Avengers movie then the actual Avengers villainAlso they are guaranteed to butcher Dr Doom like they did with Kang and capture none of his actual character appeal.
>>154714145What's funny is that the original Secret Wars comic was a cynical marketing gimmick to sell toys and games cooked up by Marvel and Mattel. HEY KIDS! EVERY SINGLE MARVEL CHARACTER IN ONE BOOK, FIGHTING IT OUT IN A BARREN WASTELAND FOR YOU ENTERTAINMENT!In that sense the film will be a faithful adaptation I guess. Just shove the whole toybox in there to sell tickets. Remember Chris Evans? Robert Downey Jr? Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart? There're all here! Whatever you want to see, we'll put it in there! Just buy a fucking "Infinity Vision" ticket! It's worth it we swear!
>>154714369No it's Andrew
How many times have they killed Professor X
>>154714449X3The future timeline of Days of Future PastLoganDr Strange 2 I'm probably missing one. Maybe he died again in Dark Phoenix.
>>1547144493, maybe 4 times. Jean kills him the first time in X-men: The Last Stand but he comes back by possessing his twin brothers braindead body in an after credits scene. A future version of him gets killed in Days of Future Past but that timeline gets erased and you don't technically see it so you might not count it. X-24 kills old man Charles in Logan and Wanda kills an alternate reality version in Multiverse of Madness.
>>154708931They were JUST completing the Fox deal by that point, there was no time to add them in
>>154714356I'm sure Red Guardian and Walker shared more lines than Steve and Thor. Tony and Steve barely have any chemistry either. They barely seem like friends. In universe the New Avengers have probably been together longer than the Original Avengers.
>>154714369If he's in, it'll be a cameo at most. Case in point, he's not relevant to the story at all.
>>154708830Unironically the best part of the trailer
>>154714697we really needed a good movie with the avengers as pals to establish the friendship more. First Avengers movie, Cap doesn't like Iron man until like the end. Age of Ultron, there's the party but you don't get the sense these guys are best bros, then their next meeting is Civil war.
>>154714697Tony and Steve may not have been friends but at least had a dynamic, the natural friction that their personalities caused to each other is what made them interesting to watch and served as foundation for things like Civil War, there was some form of interpersonal conflict. Here there's really nothing because characters barely know or have interacted with each other and this is really the first crossover between many of them. What's the closest thing here? Sam and Bucky having a silly feud over the Avengers name?
>Leave Doom to me
I remember reading somewhere that he is dying for good. Makes sense; nobody wants more Ant-Man after the flops
>>154712993Multiverse of madness needed Wandavision to know what was going on Loki needed Antman to know who Kang was, and possibly others that involved the lost Marvel half-decade which influenced the plot of that overarching storyDeadpool and Wolverine required a bunch of Fox X-Men and other FF to understand why Chris Evans was Johnny Storm in itAnd Thunderbolts probably required something to understand why Elaine was so evil but I fell asleep halfway through
>>154714991Who thought giving this guy a trilogy was a good idea?
>>154714991He could just feature in Avengers team ups like Hulk does. Also, I assume everything is getting reset after Secret Wars anyway so if thats true it wouldn't really matter
>>154714829None of them like each other until they sort of tolerate each other when Coulson dies. They should've at least had a Holiday special like the GOTG.>>154714934True but they try to act like they were friends. A big part of Civil War and Tony and Steve falling out is built on the idea that they were friends. The Thunderbolts still have a group dynamic and interpersonal dynamics. Other people like Shang Chi, the X-Men, Shuri and the FF don't matter but that won't stop people from being excited to see their favorite action figure show up
>>154715008You had to watch black widow to know who Elaine was
>>154715025Someone who was a little too into the comics and thought people would give a shit about someone called Antman. Oddly it sort of worked as the films until Quantumania didnt fail
>>154714991I read in another leak that he actually saves a bunch of heroes by leading them to the Quantum Realm. It's a coin-flip if he dies, Feige and the Russos love Paul Rudd so maybe he's spared or maybe not, it could be a fakeout and the one that acually dies is Cassie like in the comics so they can recreate this page
>>154715038She shows up in a few different movies and shows. She's in F&WS and Black Panther. You don't even get much about her, she's just a shady government lady.
>>154715052Doom got his ass best by a girl? Chuds will not like this one
>>154708491This is a massive, massive, massive flop in the making.>>154708678>Why would look up>parasocial>>154708836>parasocialGood "morning" sir.
If everyone gets revived anyway then the movie has no stakes until Secret Wars. That's where most heroes will hopefully die for good
>>154715074Hollywood will give it a standing o
>>154714829I hope after SW they go back to making Avengers films that are ACTUALLY ABOUT the Avengers. Ever since IW, the title is just an umbrella term for "Marvel film crossover".
>>154715074Doom would later get his ass beat by Ant-Man as revenge for this and he would revive Cassie to attone. At this point, having Paul Rudd beat the shit out of Robert Downey Jr on screen would be the most comic accurate thing they could do
>>154708491Make it stop.
>>154715074Look at him cower in fear.
Why does Steve Rogers look like Fisher Stevens now?
People will say no one gives a shit about Marvel anymore but I think it will still clear the box office, and everyone will get owned again just like The Odyssey.
>>154715548They don't go for the individual movies anymore, the crossovers are still a draw.
>>154715548Because people want to care about something desperately.
>>154708701His bulge is tiny
>>154715548I could see it getting bad reviews, that might hamper it at the box office. The reported budget is $400 Million so even if it hits a Billy it won't make a profit.
>>154715548It's going against DUNC, so a lot of people will have to make a choiceEither way, Florence Pugh wins
>>154715765Dune is making $800 million at most, unless the Dunesday synergy is legit and the more "prestiguous" blockbuster ends up reaching a billion too because of the memes/hype.
>>154715765Threequels are box office poison. Look the other IMAX whore franchise that flopped like a fish last year. The first time is special and if you space it out long enough, the second can be special too. But at this point we have sat through 6+ hours of Dunc and Abatap in the past 5 years. It's not that I don't care anymore, I just can't justify paying these ticket prices to see the same movie I JUST watched.
>>154709959They have to reboot to purely focus on Xmen.
>>154708702She looks like an Imperial from Star Wars man what the fuck
>>154715872>I just can't justify paying these ticket prices to see the same movie I JUST watched.MCU fans saying this is rich.
>>154715548i predict it will barely rake out a 1.1 billion
>>154716161By this design alone I tell you, Disney will never top Fox X-Men. They are prudes.
>>154710969
God I hope Walker doesn't die for the sake of Sam
>>154710147>ant man 3 there was a 3? the fuck? how in the fuck did i miss that?
So the old cap at the end of endgame already experinced doomsday/secret wars????
>>154714209>They really should have just stuck with KangDidney doesn't forgetDidney doesn't forgiveDidney also never admits to ever being wrong or improve their films.
>>154712605Same
>>154710969>You'd figure that they should have an easier time writing a story about a cool black dude fighting vanpires,Feige made it sound like one of the primary reasons is they couldn't get a script that was convoluted and retarded enough for them."we didn't want him to just kill vampires"
>>154712018>>154711981>>154711907>>154711810Wait a second, Mystique died in X-Men: Dark Phoenix so how is it that she is in Doomsday? Unless they are completely ignoring Dark Phoenix because it was so incredibly shitty
>>154716503were they ever going to address how a black guy managed to sire a relatively white hispanic
>>154716503There are so many countless actors that would've better fit Kang, especially since it's not that physically demanding a role and you just need someone able to act sophisticated but sneering and contemptuous. Ralph Fiennes, Arnold Vosloo, hell you could've gotten Peter Serafinowicz even if he was already in the MCU since he did a great Kang in the fucking Lego game.
>>154716572they care not for petty things like 'continuity' and 'coherence' -- they will consume everything, as a demonic corporation desires.
Even reddit is shitting on the trailer, is superhero fatigue real?
>>154709272Yeah and not in the good way
>>154716602which leddit? There are thousands
>>154710702Spider-man Brand New Day is poised to make a billion though.
>>154716631>Brand New DayWhat an ironic title
>>154716572They're ignoring the prequels.
>>154716613The movies one.
>>154716631i liked homecoming way more than the average person. but the other movies are so bad i can't believe they keep making more and more money. at some point it being schlock has to make the box office drop right? it did take transformers 6 movies to do that though
>>154714991>>154715052Actual leak here, Doom brings back some past MCU villains by pulling them from the multiverse, Ultron among them. He fights Ant-Man as a nod to the comics but the fight is short and is defeated by shrinking him to the quantum realm.
>>154714356Thor doesn't even name drop him when recounting all the people he lost in Love and Thunder
the most /co/ influenced workmate i know didn't even mention this, normalfags don't care
>>154708830Is Sonic going to help his old buddy Scott?
>>154709135Doom is only here because they had to pivot off Kang because they absolutely fucked his first appearance and the actor beat his wife or whatever.
>>154716937They know the Quantum realm is a populated place now why would he just send evil murder AI there to put them under another Kang style dictator?
>>154715548doesn't it have like a billion dollar budget I don't see how it could succeed
>>154717070I disagree. Six of my co-workers all soied out when the trailer dropped and watched it at least five times.
>>154709135Tbf this is the issue with a franchise like Marvel, each threat has to be bigger than the one before.
Imagine doing Thor vs Doom and not including the "Zounds!" line.
>>154708830GIGA BASED BEYOND BELIEFX-CHADS, WE HAVE WAITED 2 DECADES FOR THIS SHIT
I don't think even the Funko critics can save this one, 49% on RT confirmed.
I think it looks cool and I'm hyped to watch it, but I feel no desire to discuss it with /co/.I wonder why that is.
>>154708491that poster is ai
>>154709890> fag still seething about secret warsmay you never find peace shitter.hickman doom is just an evolution of byrne doom, which is a top 3 doom.
>>154717481for a bad suit? No thanks I got my gigabased kino suits 20 years ago. THis shitty ass backstage snap has better cinematography, charm and look than these cosplay tier shitters. The manufacture of the suits is really low quality, specially cyclops and mystique.
>>154716161What is this Mormon ahh the crucible ahh fit tho lmao. Should’ve lost the pants and sleeves and it would’ve been fine
What is Namor's role in all of this? The leaks seldom address him, and he seems to be fighting the heroes in the trailer.
>>154708727its going to be like a firework show of a bunch of the same firework
>>154709129is Namor genociding the Wakandans again for the xth time?
>>154709244whats the point about having leaks I get it if you hate it but why would you want to get spoiled?
>>154709732Cap probably did a few missions but retired to be with his girl and this is likely that "LAST" thing he did before going back in time to be with his wifeThat or this is a cap from another timeline just like how downey is Doom
>>154709244>using one of the most hype moments of Ultimates 2 but instead of an awesome climax it's just an extended jobber momentWhy does Disney hate Thor?
>>154713467same thing but they put themselves into the blockchain and pretended they died.They can now damp eet in real time rather than waiting for the call
>>154717154He's gonna be shrunk to one of the sublevels where it's just a void of particles
>>154708612Please no, modern superhero movies are already just clusterfucks of executives smashing IPs they own together like action figures hoping brand recognition will get butts in seats, we don't need MORE IPs to interact. I just want movies with good plots, following one character going through a character arc, not just constant MEMBER PIDERMAN? MEMBER BAMAN? MEMBER THE X-MEN?
>>154712281They fired all their VFX teams and replaced them with AI
>>154708844In the comics crossover Marvel seemed pretty content with jobbing to DC out of respect for them being the first in the game
>>154708876That's only because referencing Crisspoints is how you get Crisspoints
>>154716572They using the Mystique from the original trilogy so you can probably just ignore the movies after DOFP or maybe even just X-men Last Stand.
>>154715052Why the fuck is everyone in the background. Didn't these fucks go to art school? Who taught these fucks how to draw?
>>154715427>bring me zero cool
>>154715008>>154715038>>154715060You mean Black Widow is needed to know Yelena and Red Guardian's deal were and relationship to Black Widow(also the deal with Task Master), FWS is the one to know what's the deal with US Agent and his connection with Bucky.
Lots of people feeling like they are too good for capeshit when what you dislike about this one is applicable to all prior entries, people who never liked any avengers movies or ANY superhero movies in general will agree with me. It doesnt actually look any worse or better than anything that came before. You dont like it anymore because youre not being told its culturally relevant, theres no hype so you are responding to it neutrally. You tell yourself "b-but it had no buildup!"thanos had 3 post credit scenes. Thats it. Thats literally it. Any and all separate buildup like the gauntlet in Thors trophy room is then retconned like Hella calling it fake later. Cosmic Cube is later retconned into a infinity gem at first it was literally just the cosmic cube. You bought into post credit scene 'hype' like a child and now youre trying to act like you matured since then. Doctor Doom was abscent in the little scene showing his title card in F4 movie. Thats it. he was teased. The plot is the incursions. Incursions were mentioned already various other times. Theres your fucking buildup. Stop acting like if they showed him in 3 post credit scenes that would anchor your engagement via 'buildup' holy shit
>>154718710Please stop pretending you know what you're talking about
>>154718855>thanos had 3 post credit scenes. Thats it.While I somewhat agree with your point, this is flat out wrong though. Thanos is there in Gotg 1 as well as being Drax's motivation.
>>154716321Genuinely how hard is it to make a movie about a guy with swords fighting vampiresDPW seemed like more of a movie making nightmare
>>154718855The Russos never made a good movie, but at least their previous Avengers movies weren't exclusively staffed by unlikable cunts everyone rejected.
>>154718871No, you can't make me
>>154718925Cause by all accounts they got to high on their own supply and tried to have it be something "more" than that.Everyday, that line from Snipes Blade in Deadpool & Wolverine gets funnier and funnier. Cause yes, it should've been their easiest fucking idea. You don't even need that much of a budget for it. But no. Somehow, this was all beyond them.
>>154718925You receive a directive that it has to be a young woman and her frivolous stupid modern day stacy made up struggles.
>>154709244>killing the hero of millennials and zoomers everywhere immediatelyWhy must the MCU take these silly risk all the time?
>>154715648He was in the pool!
>>154716937That is video from the Disney cruise ship Marvel dinner show.
>>154708848>>154709086Isn't that just M'Baku narrating? Likely talking to Shuri and the Wakandans.
>>154717523you sound psychotic or terribly depressed, like tony soprano's mother
>>154710593>there will be more Wolverine/Deadpool/Gambit movies with Jackman, Reynolds and TatumThe only good news I've read about it
>>154708848>>154709086>>154719527Pretty sure the one narrating is Thor
>>154712857Unimportant characters
>>154709856Didn't people here said the same about IW and how Thanos was a grapefruit or some shit like that?
>>154710194Because it’s nice for a story to have a happy ending sometimes rather than a story inevitably getting dragged down for modern day shock value?
>>154710004>an inspiring leader as ReedLOL
>>154716576That's pretty common in Hispanic families to be fair
>>154719673They meant the first few seconds of the trailer.
>>154708491>>154708514Are they going to have time to show Doom vs Hell? It's on the poster but idk
>>154709244This is what the Rock wanted Black Adam to be for the DCEU
>>154718765I never saw Black Widow and pretty much got who Yelena and Alexei were
Just watched Wakanda Forever.Man, Shuri's just really been through it, huh? Poor girl's a far cry from that bubbly little tech-gremlin we first met. Great character development from her in this movie.Namor is, astonishingly, not nearly as obnoxious as his typical comic appearance, though he is nonetheless the antagonist and a right bastard. His motivations were at least far less selfish than that of Killmonger. He actually witnessed the colonisation and destruction of his people first-hand, centuries ago, so he has actual, tangible trauma regarding all that rather than Killmonger's yankee racial political bullshit.
>>154720195Apparently we black folks are supposed to feel some kind of kinship with the natives because the white man also fucked them over. But I detest Namor and his entire civilization, I wish Shuri nuked Atlantis.
Why aren't they trying to find Captain Marvel to help? Isn't she supposedly the strongest Avenger? Also Hulk, looks like he's managed to bring back his rage in the Spider-man movie. Adam Warlock is also probably around in the top tier.
>>154720219The marvels are trying to find Monica, Hulk is 100% dead after BND, and the guardians are in another planet, they might appear in a random scene seeing the destruction of the universe
I found this
>>154720211It’s war then puto
>>154720268Does mystique have a Karen haircut in the comics ? I don’t get why the MCU sucked all the sex appeal out of this character
>>154720300bro unironicaly goons to muties
>>154716540They also refuse to just cast Boyega as Blade and do it in London like it's meant to be.What was all that 1940s New Orleans Anne Rice shit they were trying to do? Why write Blade if you're not actually writing Blade.
>>154719979>Harry died>Peter and MJ are not married, and their relationship remains "complicated">Mayday has not been born, despite Peter and MJ being in their 40sRaimiverse didn't get the happy ending anyway.
>>154720300She can shapeshift so it's ok
>>154708830Literally only watching this for Cyclops. Even if they fucked up and did a piss-poor adaptation of his worst costume.>>154720195It's a shame how badly Black Panther got derailed with Chad's death. I can't bring myself to care about Shuri. She was the weakest part of Wakanda Forever. Killing Ramonda was a mistake.
>>154720334So?
>>154708491So apparently Doom wears different outfits throught the film. He first wears the mask and costume seen in FS, and upgrades into his final design once it's revealed he's a bad guy.
>>154720424>leotard covering cheeks instead of riding between themSo close to being great.
