> make OK superman movie> make spin-off movie > said movie is built around C-tier character> supergirl bombs> said movie eats any profit made by superman (2025)> dcu roughly 150M+ in the hole> look at lineup> lanterns looks like true fucking detective> clayface movie literally who > MoT looks rushed like mcu slop> Reevesverse mogs the whole DCU> The Batman part 2 delayed until 2028> No dcu Batman film until 2029 at the earliest If MoT flops, we're getting standalone films for the next decade. Even if it breaks even they may scrap everything. It has to do 750M+ in box office.
>>154716884>lanterns looks like true fucking detectiveNNOOO You can't make an earth centered cop show out of >checks comicscops that center around earth!
GOOD
>>154716884>clayface movie literally whoThis is probably gonna be the most successful of them all because the horror sheep will watch anything with Mike Flanagan's name on it.Also the far lower budget will help.
The retards needed The Brave and the Bold out asap.
>>154716901> checks comicswhy is there so much green?
>>154716921probably or it could go joker folie à deux route, and end up dog shit even with a good trailer
>>154716884DC just can’t catch a single fucking break.
>>154716884It's annoying because I literally only care about the comics. I don't give a single shit about the movies but if they bomb hard enough there's a chance the whole comic side gets fucked as a result.
>>154716962Because they worried that if they adapted the source material completely, people would complain. So, instead of having completely grey/metallic suits like in the comic, they've added green.
>>154717187> Because they worried that if they adapted the source material completely, people would complain. Instead of comic accuracy, we got True Grit with space cops. They're gonna fridge Hal in the first episode to prop up John Stewart, I'm calling it now.
>>154717387We all read the leaks anon
>>154717387>true gritYou're retarded.
I think synder and gunn both fucked DC's credibility when it comes to movies. I don't want gritty deconstructions or muh punk rocker gotg mcu slop, is it too hard to just get live action adaptions of DC's best tried and true stories. We are three years in with no Batman or Wonder-Woman, not to mention the same director for Supergirl is gonna do Teen Titans kek. Fuck the DCU, i don't want some childish, flanderized, "nice guy" as superman, is it too hard to make a good superman movie like picrel.
>>154717501>>154717604>>154717501yet everyone pretends this slop is good, gunn fags are just as bad as synder fags, you fags probably want a condiment king movie kek
>>154717167I really hope DC comics NEVER does synergy with the movies like the MCU did
>>154716884>>154716901There isn't a white person in this fuckin' thread man.
>>154717857Dude, Wonder Woman game was killed in the crib because it was too much like the old movies and James Gunn's big plan for the DCU is for there to be major synergy between the movies, TV shows, games, cartoons, and... yes, comics.
>>154717868> larps as white on 4chan> many such cases here you go anon, you've earned it
>>154717750baseddddd
>>154717885All the more reason I want the DCU canceled, Gunn praised SS:KTJL when it first came out, I don't want the comics touched by this slop
>>154717839The show isn't out. I have no idea what quality it is.
>>154718021going by the leaks, it won't be good
>>154718093Leaks for the entire season have come out? Post them, please.
>>154716884is Clayface really a literally who?
>>154720686Sadly yes. You've gotta understand, 90% of audiences only know about comic characters through their adaptations, namely films.
>>154717857They did with Peacemaker and Bloodsport and Harley Quinn BOP and Joker and Penguin and Batman armor and Wonder Woman skirt
>>154717187>>154717387Comic accurate DC is lamer(bunch of outdated Mary sues having their cake and eating it while avoiding the tough choices when regarding the villains that cause mass homicide day by day when they escape immediately after they've been sent to prison) than Marvel and most anime and thus can't grab the typical current Gen teen or man child into doom posting and fornite.
>>154717750DC does well when it's sincere in its storytelling and setting
>>154716884> No dcu Batman film until 2029 at the earliestthey refuse to just make the big three movies (super man WW and batman) and are rushing to set up a cinematic universe again trying to catch up with the mcu
>>154716921They haven't used Flanagan's name in any of the trailers and they rewrote his script anyway
>>154718785here u go anon>Dual timeline split narrative between 2016 and 2026.>2016 storyline is about veteran Hal Jordan and rookie John Stewart investigating murders in a small town, because Hal thinks aliens are involved.>Hal and John hate each other because Hal doesn’t like having to train his replacement and John thinks Hal isn’t good enough to be the Green Lantern.>Hal is murdered in the end of episode 1, and John is framed. He escapes in the 2026 timeline to prove his innocence and close the case.>The villains are the Manhunters, the Green Lanterns’ replicant predecessors who were cast out by their creators, the Guardians, after they massacred an entire space sector.>Laura Linney appears as Carol Ferris, Hal’s ex-wife who believes in John’s innocence.>Ulrich Thomsen appears as Sinestro, Hal’s incarcerated former mentor turned nemesis.>There appears to be some sort of dark secret Hal is keeping that is the reason John hates him
>>154721455> Comic accurate DC is lamer> looks inside> plebbit humor> picrel
>>154722235>There appears to be some sort of dark secret Hal is keeping that is the reason John hates himHal voted for Trump
>>154722361kek, dc always disrespects hal jordan for some reason, outside of comics he's always replaced or killed off
>>154722235This doesn't tell me anything about the season, anon. In fact, 99% of this aren't leaks. Why did you lie?
>>154722528He's died at least five times in the comics, casual.
>>154716884OP is retarded for thinking the Superman movie was ok and made any money at all. It lost nearly 60M.
>>154722528>>154722581reminder: reevesverse mogs the dcu, picrel is better than anything james gunn has ever done
>>154722879Not really.Reeves>one awful film>one good showGunn>one good show>one awful show>one okay movie>one decent movie
>>154722674i keep hearing this but where's the source, anon, I really want to know kek if this is true, means that the dcu will definitely flop
>>154722904> Not really.> the suicide squad flopped lost 60 million> netflix co-ceo testifies under oath that basedperman (2025) underperformed> peacemaker season 2, gunn literally gets cucked, do i need to say any more> supergirl so trash even gunnfags can't deny that it's shit> creature commandos literally who> gotg is unironically his best film, gave gunn an inflated ego> every film of his since copies this formula and fails> reeves batman mogs basedperman at the box office, despite coming off china flu lockdown> the penguin mogs any hbo dcu seriesThe penguin is literally better than anything from the dcu slop, gunn is trying so hard to copy feige, it's embrassing, name one dcu film better.
>>154722904>Gunn>>one good show>>one awful show>>one okay movie>>one decent movie
>>154717750Superhero movies don't sell unless they're turned into action heroes or they're Spider-Man.
>>154723056>Snyder>One decent movie>One bad movie>One mid movie
>>154722904i swear gunnfags, they're just as delusional as synderbros, they love the quirky and quippy mcu dialogue, and hate anything that tries to be deep or more than surface level, picrel is literally them> religious themes in superman > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>154723191The religious themes were unnecessary, that's why people always criticize them.
>>154723225Superman is jesus type character
>>154723247He isn't you retard. Go read some golden or silver age comics, the whole Jesus allegory is not present in them.
>>154722879>>154722904>>154723028>>154723056>>154723133Reeves Penguin and The Batman sucks, DEI propaganda mixed with pseudo reddit deepth
>>154723268Kal-El literally means 'Voice of God' or some shit like that in Hebrew, you stupid fucking larper.Superman’s creators literally based the character on Jewish religious stories. Superman has always been a messianic figure, even Reeve’s Superman was, to a point. Snyder just exaggerated it, but it’s not like he pulled it out of his ass."
>>154723410And you expect non-hebrews to know that shit? Normies don't think of Jesus when they think about Supes.
>>154723225> The religious themes were unnecessary> be James Gunn> write script for a superman movie> have to appeal to redditor fanbase> *eureka* superman but he's a nice guy> no religious themes, redditors hate religion> make him superfella a nice guy who's a bit quirky> 80's music needle drop with diverse cast of misfits> film said movie> redditors say its the best superman film ever> netflix ceo literally testifies under oath that it underperformed> looks over> man of steel adjusted for inflation mogs it (824M+ box office)> superman 1978 mogs both (1.4B+ box office)> muh religious themes aren't necessary
>>154723509>y la perra seguia y seguia
>>154723028I wasn't including The Suicide Squad.>gunn gets cuckedOh fuck off. I'm not bothering reading the rest of your post.>>154723056>no rebuttal>>154723133I will say, the Snyder Cut might just be the best capeshit film ever made.>>154723191What?>>154723378Woke is not a signifier for quality. Creature Commandos is woke, and also very good.
>>154723378> Reeves Penguin and The Batman suckswhat do u prefer Batman Forever or Batman & Robin> DEI propaganda mixed with pseudo reddit depth> main white character brutally kills the brown kid in the finale> isn't an anti-hero like muh punisher or modernᵀᴹ Kingpin> no sad backstorygunnfags seeth, I post again here when this universe gets canned kek
>>154723613why did gunn let another man kiss his wife while he watch, redditors love this shit> muh plot> I wasn't including The Suicide Squad.It's a better movie than Basedperman (2025), both underperformed severely, again if MoT flops or breaks even, they're gonna hard reset, anything else is cope, there's not a strong interest in the DCU compared to stuff like Nolan or even Synder's films.
>>154723692NTA, but since you're already a redditspacing faggot I've used Claude to help explain it to you since you're already used to bots.Actors don't really "allow" their spouses to do anything — kissing scenes are just a standard part of the job, and most actors (regardless of gender) treat it as professional work, not something that needs permission.A few things that help explain it:It's staged and choreographed. Intimacy coordinators, camera angles, and technique (closed mouths, careful positioning) mean it's far less intimate than it looks on screen.It's a job, not a relationship. Actors generally compartmentalize — kissing a scene partner is like a surgeon touching a patient. It's part of the craft, not an emotional betrayal.Trust and communication. Couples in the industry (or married to people in it) usually build an understanding early on: work is work. Many actors have talked openly about being fine with their partner filming intimate scenes because they trust the relationship, not because they're granting permission.It goes both ways. Male actors kiss other women on screen constantly too — the "allow" framing tends to get applied more to women, which says more about double standards in how we talk about this than about actual industry norms.If anything, the actors who make it weird or possessive about their partner's job are the outliers, not the norm.
>>154723614>what do u prefer Batman Forever or Batman & RobinYeah? Not woke.Also "if you like shit you like piss" fuck off.>> main white character brutally kills the brown kid in the finaleMade to make the white villain being an angry white man stereotype that hates minorities>> isn't an anti-hero like muh punisher or modernᵀᴹ KingpinIt is you're just stupid>> no sad backstoryHe had the sad backstory>gunnfags seeth, I post again here when this universe gets canned kekBoth Gunn and Reeves and DEI woke shits with shit taste and so their worshippers
Why is Clayface getting a solo movie and not just the main villain of the next Batman movie?
It's crazy how an entire IP got tarnished because of a single shitty movie
The Snyderverse turned Aquaman from a joke character into a billion dollar movie. It was better at Gunning than Gunn.
>>154723966Aquaman being a joke character is the reason it was a success. Along with James Wan pulling the strings of the chinese mafia so all the chinks could inflate the numbers, because he is a chink
>>154723966>SnyderverseThat's DCEU, Snyderverse is Snyder's DCEU like MoS BvS ZSJL
>>154723786i ain't reading all that my nigga
>>154723949Yeah, Batman v Superman kind of killed it all.
>>154724140I accept your concession
>>154723966I don't think Snyder consider Aquaman part of his snyderverse
>>154723966That shit was like the first Captain Marvel movie in the sense that it was just a lightning in a bottle.
>>154724211you just won the internet, i'm all out of a updoots to give u, here u go
>>154724295Nigga you a redditor, go back
>>154723378
>>154722905I'll do the math for you, anon. First the earnings (not profits). 618M total: 350M local, 260M overseas.Local theaters take a 50% cut out of every ticket, whereas overseas theaters ranges from 60% to 75%. Let's go 60% for the highest possible earnings. So it actually made 175M local, and 100M overseas, for a total of 275M in earnings.Now comes the costs. The production budget was 225M, and the marketing was 125M, for a total production cost of 350M. So then, 275M it made in theathers, minus 350M it cost to make, equals a total earning of negative 75M, give or take 10M. So yeah, in theaters alone, the movie lost between 60M and 75M.
>>154716884>> Reevesverse mogs the whole DCUMaybe it would if each film didn't take a decade and several billion dollars to make
>>154725409Make sense. The movie was on HBO within 5 weeks of it's release. Grossing 618M on 225M production budget + 100M in marketing cost at minimum does equal, 325M at least before theater cut.At minimum Superman made <2.0x it's budget from the box office before the split.If you go on plebbit everyone says it made 100M+ in profit, but why?
I liked Superman
>>154725736> Maybe it would if each film didn't take a decade and several billion dollars to makeFair point. Although, I'm okay with less movies with better quality than more movies with lower quality, it's like a steak dinner vs a McChicken. They're both food, but I want the best and highest quality, it's the reason why Nolan's films are still talked about to this day.
>>154725977They're for people that eat shitty food and pretend it good, bro please wake up
>>154722235>>154722528A lot of companies will entirely disregard a character after one movie flops like the Green Lantern movie and powerscalingfags digging up pedo Hal when they tried to bury it for so long is also doing damage.
>>154725977>it's the reason why Nolan's films are still talked about to this day.It's hilarious that everyone memoryholed Tenet otherwise they wouldn't be so surprised that people aren't enjoying The Odyssey.
>>154725863Because reddit is built on circlejerking to farm upvotes, which requires disingenuity and bias. So there is 1 ideology allowed, and one only. Anything that doesn't support it, it's faked so that it does. Always amused to see Reddit would support someone as openly pedophile as Gunn but eh.
>>154726138I agree Tenet and Odyssey are low points in his career but they're not flops. Odyssey will probably do 800M+ for sure, 50/50 on 1B+. I was talking about his Batman films tho, TDK is still kino and Begins is my favorite Batman movie.
>>154724153he's talking about Superfoid, fucking retard
>>154725409What about merch sales and advertisers paying to get involved? With the crazy budgets of things these days, I imagine most things don't actually make back their budgets on their own and have to rely on the sales of the slop it gets slapped on like old cartoons did. I think I saw a chart awhile back that confirmed something nobody watches anymore like The Simpsons actually loses a ton of money and needs to lower production costs progressively to keep running, but the money lost keeping it running is worth it because of how many advertisers and merchandisers will spend a pretty penny to use it.
