>Sam's "Avengers" team consists of him, his new Falcon and Ant-man and maybe Shang-chiWhy does he think he deserves the team name?
>>154718175>Well adapted suit>Its one of the lamest comic designsWhy?
>>154718182iunno it looks pretty cool to me, aside from the big exposed forehead.The problem with the character is the character and his role.
>>154718175They really did Sam dirty post Endgame character wise. I'm not opposed to exploring Sam Wilson as Captain America in the MCU, they just did it in the most unlikeable way possible. Bro has a HUGE chip on his shoulder, and the underdog "I dont have super soldier powers" shit doesn't land when he's literally handed a super vibranium suit with a ton of gadgets and fights fucking Red Hulk. First they had the F&WS show where they tried (and failed) to completely shit on John Walker to the point where we the audience actually root for him more than Sam, then we segue into Thunderbolts where Sam fucking sues Bucky of all people for calling his team The Avengers AFTER HIM-HALLING AROUND DURING BRAVE NEW WORLD THE ENTIRE TIME WHEN PRESIDENT ROSS BEGGED HIM TO REFORM THE TEAM. So really they turned Sam into an entitled cunt that only wants things when other people take the opportunity he meanders on
>>154718175Ant-Man beat a guy that was Ultron/Thanos tier, I'd say the entire AntFam are worth at least being called the West Coast Avengers and any team he's in is worthy of being called Avengers
>>154718241Problem is Ant-Man is probably tapping out of the MCU soon
>>154718182Because the suit wasn't designed to be a comic book suit. It was designed to be a movie suit.
>>154718213But John Walker got a good redemption arc in Falcon and Winter Soldier. He even teamed up with Sam and Bucky in that final episode.
>>154718333Tbh that's more a fall from grace, man literally did not need redeemed because he was in the right the entire time.
>>154718197Idk, just a bit boring for a superhero suit for me>>154718291Though this is true too.
It just bothers me he’s suing the New Avengers over the name and iirc isn’t on speaking terms with Bucky over it. It’s not like they choose it and, even if they did, you’re the one who sat on his ass NOT assembling your Avengers so don’t pull a bitch move when someone beats you to it
>>154718175Because first of all, it's a symbol, and also everybody involved has saved the entire fucking planet at least once.
It's not Sam's fault that Disney refuses to introduce more Avengers members. They have a lot more guys than Iron Man, Cap, and Thor.
>>154718175Is War Machine in the movie? If so then he might be in Sam's team then it'd be more balanced.
>>154718213F&WS soured me on the character completely desu. First he gives up the shield and gets all moody. Then he has the gall to bitch about someone else getting it and being a massive asshole to Walker for seemingly no reason other than he’s the guy with the shield and Bucky and him just act like bitchy teenage girls. Then there is all the bullshit with the flag smashers (utterly unlikable and they act like spoiled children) and him literally giving the “be better” spiel. Also that shit with his families fishing business. There is no fucking bank in the world that would deny him, and even if miraculously that did somehow happen, he could go to any of the handful of people he knows with a shitload of cash. For fuck sake he could give Scott a call and they could find a way to turn fucking iron into gold or some shit. Or hell I bet Pepper or Happy would have given them a loan, fuck even shield probably would have given them some. What the actual fuck was the point in that? These are not normal people, with normal people problems.
>>154718376I'd have to see the rest of it, but the parts I'm seeing so far look cool. >Trapezius strap things that look like they shoot missiles>cool deltoid shapes>downward plunging chest color piece>great color scheme>>154718603did he really? man I left just in time.
>>154718213>The series would originally have eight episodes and precede WANDAVISION, which changed due to the COVID pandemic.>A storyline scrapped due to the pandemic reportedly featured the Flag Smashers attempting to use a bioweapon to wipe out half of Earth’s population.>Early drafts feature John Walker as an ambitious and belligerent soldier who believes himself to be better than Steve Rogers and antagonizes Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes.>Early drafts feature Karli Morgenthau as the Power Broker’s main enforcer in Madripoor before stealing the Supersoldier Serum to create the Flag Smashers.>There were plans to give Sam the power to talk the birds and the ability to throw the shield with his wings.>There were plans to feature New York City heroes such as Spider-Man during the final battle against the Flag Smashers.>Valentina de Fontaine would originally first appear in BLACK WIDOW, but that changed due to the movie’s delay.>Yelena Belova would reportedly appear following the events of BLACK WIDOW, but this was changed due to the movie’s delay.>Isaiah Bradley was nearly removed from the series due to copyright issues and flashbacks about his origin were scrapped.>Toby Jones was approached to return as Armin Zola for flashbacks about his experiments on Bucky during WWII before the idea was scrapped.>Early cuts feature Walker foiling a terrorist attack staged by the government to introduce him as Captain America, more banter between Sam and Joaquin Torres, more flirting between Bucky and Sarah Wilson and more interactions between the Flag Smashers.>Ben Barnes and Teddy Sears were considered for Walker before Wyatt Russell was cast.>The new title was originally CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE WHITE WOLF, but producers felt it could confuse audiences.
>>154718656No it's pretty fucking grim. >CapDead>Iron ManDead>PymOld>JanetAlso old>Scarlet WitchCrazy/Evil>VisionByrne'd>Black PantherIRL Cancer RIP>Black WidowDead>QuicksilverDead>HawkeyeIRL snowplow accident>BeastWaiting to X-Men>CrystalPerlmutter'd>HellcatMarvel Knights/Defenders-verse>Luke CageMarvel Knights/Defenders-verse>Black KnightWaiting for Midnight Sons
>>154719261Just recast. I don't get this weird obsession with roles being sacred for one actor.
>>154718175Because the name has to go to someone and it's Sam's team or these schmucks.
>>154719191>White WolfWait what the fuck.Did we really miss out on the sheer fucking hilarity that would have been an MCU version of Hunter.
>>154719261>Black Knight>Waiting for Midnight SonsTechnically he already got teased at post credits of Eternals so he can just show up with the sword, but yeah probably getting saved for Blade/Midnight Sons.
>>154718175>Why does he think he deserves the team name?Because Steve said so, and the only other team that wants that title is a bunch of terrorists, communists, murderers, and the mentally deranged.
>>154719261Really? What Avengers haven't been introduced?Tigra? Justice? Jack of Hearts? They're scraping the bottom of the barrel and you know it. Disney dragging out Moondragon isn't going to save the MCU.
>>154720822Meant for >>154718656
>>154719293Obviously it should go to the better team.Those schmucks.
Anyone else think Disney could solve a lot of their problems by just fucking killing Falcon off in disgrace and making John Walker Cap?>>Basically make Cap a conservative containment zone for right wing comic fans, especially since the woke crowd hate patriotism and Cap in general >>Walker isn't even THAT conservative; he's a huge RINO. Hell, he's married to a black woman, has a mixed race kid, and his entire arc is based around wanting to avenge his black BFF/brother-in-law! >>Wyatt Russell is probably cheaper to hire than Anthony Mackie
