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Unlike the prior generations they did a lot more harm than good to western animation.
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>>154720385
what schizo is this again
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>>154720385
t.
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>>154720385
Boomers and Xers were rebels at heart who hated on cheesy Disney ripoff shit, toy commercials, baby spinoffs and other slop, millennials are a bunch of consoomers and/or corporate suckups.
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>>154720385
What's wrong with K-Pop Demon Hunters? It has silly faces like cartoons should?
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>>154720408
It sucks
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>>154720385
>>154720406
Aren't you gen-Zers ashamed of lying like politicians every waking moment of your life?
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>>154720385
you realize the boomers are still in charge of what gets made to this day, right?
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>>154720440
Seth Rogen is a boomer?
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>>154720391
“Hah you're a schizo” says the person defending unemployable animators
Maybe after a couple more years they'll stop feeling like the cool hobos
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Yep, OP is Lovecraft's cat in disguise
Do not interact with schizos and sage low quality threads
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>>154720472
Really? I thought the OP was me.

Implying I'd ever mistake baby boomers for gen-Xers like all these uneducated masses. Unlike Lovecraft and many other namefags I didn't choose my name, it was given to me.
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>>154720472
Look at all that projection
This is feminized empathy bitching looking to punish me for wanting to “make people stop interacting” with former-industry artists in favor of skilled candidates

But I’m not “making” that happen, people (outside the ‘community’) just don't want to interact with them naturally. I'm speaking for nature
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>>154720385
>Boomers had to be profitable
>Gen X had to be profitable
>Millenials don't have to be profitable
Using corporate investment to be 'artistic' was a mistake. Make your own animations on newgrounds.
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>>154720433
Beanmouth shows are literally the result of millennial creators, retard, zoomers aren’t making shows, millennials who got consumed the cult of LA are.
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>>154720391
>>154720385
>>154720525
The 0.01% of gen-Z brown ESLs and the 99.9% of gen-Z brown ESLs.

And then this generation screeches "Nooo stop making differences" don't make me point out the obvious generational gap and eye color difference as well, we both know what the 0.01% look like and what the 99.9% look like.
You will never be like your big brother, gen-Z. So stop trying.
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>>154720385
Kek, this is true.
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>>154720582
If you are meant to represent millennials, may I ask you something? Why don't you make animation on par with what we used to have in the 90s? All I want is a new Ren & Stimpy or a new BTAS. Is that too much to ask?
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>>154720385
>Everything is either Japanese inspired or low quality outsourced Korean slop.
Man I'm glad I broke out of the Western animation phase, cause there's not a single good cartoon airing today. Everyone is either watching Japanese stuff or watching TikTok/Instagram for entertainment.

Millennials grew up as "rebels" and were lazy bums and Zoomers and Gen A have to clean up their crap now.
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>>154720582
>You will never be like your big brother, gen-Z

Good
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>>154720592
Most modern anime is shit too, it’s all slice of life slop geared towards fat jap coomers and is all very samey looking compared to anime pre-2005 that had a far wider variety of artstyles, stop lying.
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>>154720606
The word is "most", there is stuff to enjoy besides the most. Also I would say that the 2000-2014 period was great in general for anime.
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Sorry if my friend gets all the rage and posts for the day yesterday. I've been on a road trip all day yesterday and I rather take a longer break because what I'm seeing right now is another schizo fest with Guy, Vogelfag, and Birchy's ghost here >>154720592.

I hope that Image Dump Fag thread didn't get me banned. Last I checked, a few of my replies we're removed.
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>>154720606
>pre-2005
Larper, digital anime had a variety of art styles all throughout the 00s not just before 2005.
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>>154720592
People stopped watching cartoons first, then preschool animation and shoestring budget animation became the norm because there wasnt enough demand for anything else

/co/'s problem is they think there are a financially sustainable number of people like them who would watch good cartoons if they existed, and also they dont understand that the old monetization methods are kinda dead
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>>154720634
You're not going to get a job in animation by acting like this. Many Millennials thought it would work and now after being nasty to people all the time theyre unemployed.
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>>154720433
So a lot of Gen Z animators got their start straight out of the womb or while they were in grade school? They’d have to in order to work on the majority of those shows anon
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>>154720593
>Gen-Z
>Babyfaced
Pick one.
You look like a bunch of muttalo elephants, no wonder everyone calls the cops on you when you try to ask for directions.
Stop lying like politicians, gen-Z.
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>>154720634
I didn't meant to say that, but it's too late to remove my reply or else I'll get anxiety as usual.

Don't tell the mods about those replies my friend posted in that Image Dump Fag thread yesterday...
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>>154720634
>Vogelfag
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>>154720385
Roiland is technically a xillennial/younger gen x. And Harmon is straight up just gen x
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>>154720673
Kek but yeah.
Can anyone here even point out what each of these namefags are known for?
In WITCHFag's case it's obvious, but he also posted a huge screenshotted textwall about his rant how the cartoon is superior to the comics which nobody knows.
Same for the other namefags, nobody knows who they are, but gen-Zers love to think they're in the know and understand the context perfectly just like not pointing out what today's Los Angeles millennial creators look like and behave like and not pointing out that Los Angeles a dump.

Mao Mao for example is made by millennials and it doesn't suck, but it's also animated by a Texan studio. And I wouldn't call the creator a liberal tranny sjw jew, he looks nothing like Pendletton Ward, Alex Hirsch, Rebecca Sugar, your so called 99% of millenials when in reality they're the 1% nepobabies who sucked good dick and got lucky during the 2008 power gap when CN had the bomb debacle and the economic crisis.

There's actually good cartoons in 2010s and 2020s but nobody left to watch them. Everyone jumped ship to video games during 2008.

Do you gen-Zers remember what 2008 was like since you were 5 or 8 years old? Go ahead Google it, I know you'll do it anyway and then pretend you're a millennial.
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>>154720643
The cartoons got shit long before people stopped watching them.
And the old monetization methods didn't die. They were killed off in favor of the digital gold rush.
Streaming means they can underpay everyone and keep the royalties.
Convincing retards that toys and real life merch was on it's way out so they can infinitely "print" digital nothing and put an exhorbitant pricetag on it was the final nail.

With digital piracy being the norm and LLMs making all IP effectively worthless...well...they fucked themselves.
A toy can't be digitally reproduced(without an expensive 3D printer) and can be a permanent solid reminder of that piece of fiction. It was a damned good way to make money and help sell their brand.
And cartoons being shit has to do with the creators being shit.
Streaming...it ended any ability for mid tier show to be created as a way to help train and find talent and just keep people employed.

Why is CN shit and just nonstop reruns of spongebob? Greed. Kids want a kids network with good curated cartoons they can leave on and get new stuff or just good old stuff.
Why do you think tiktok and the like are so popular? Why youtube outright killed them?
They had more of the stuff they wanted.
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>>154720721
>Same for the other namefags, nobody knows who they are
Birchy is pretty new though.
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>>154720408
>It has silly faces like cartoons should?
who cares. you idiots shit on spongebob for having "meme faces"
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>>154720433
>Gen-Zers got to make tv cartoons as children and teenagers
That's impressive
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>>154720592
Birchy, you're a pedophile.
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>>154720593
this. millennials are soifaced, leftist fat video essayists that fetishize shit made for toddlers and make 30 minute video essays on shit like animal crossing. then they troon out, like leadhead
>>154720592
>Man I'm glad I broke out of the Western animation phase
good. then stop coming here.
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>Gen-Z trying to shift the blame on millennials
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>muh cherry picked generational warfare
Keep raging at each other instead of out of touch, cost cutting, "diversity" and "relatability" obsessed studio executives who are actually responsible for ruining animation by choosing what gets greenlit and forcing their budget and content requirements on them.
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>>154720816
name five tv cartoons made by gen-zers
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>>154720825
And creatures like pic related accepted it. I can't even give this THING a pronoun beyond IT.

>Rebecca Sugar is 39 years old. Born on July 9, 1987, the American animator, director, and songwriter is best known for creating Cartoon Network's Steven Universe and for her groundbreaking work as a writer on Adventure Time.
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always really funny when gen z's biggest social outcasts try to convince you that their generation is le based and le redpillled
lil bro your generation is the one voting for the DSA en masse lmao
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>>154720592
why post this image. why save it on your device. it has no use as a reaction image
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>>154720765
>Uses Family Guy a show that has an episode of Stewie getting pregnant with Brian's baby.
Could've used a better image to reply with Anon yeesh!
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>>154720825
Millennials proved to execs that garbage looking cartoons were profitable in the first place and taught them that normies don’t give a fuck about animation quality.
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>>154720876
And then they wonder why younger generations dislike them. They made everything boring and grey.
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>>154720871
That's an image from the Cleveland Show, fake fan.
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Can I join the namefag list too?
>What do you do?
I take the porn of young porn-crazed zoomers and I corrupt it into what they hate most. I challenge them to intellectual depthful analysis discourse centered around porn. Else I take away their porn.. They never see it coming.
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>>154720385
Being cringe and corny is not a real problem you’re just bitter
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>>154720850
>"I'm non-binary"
or in other words, mentally ill
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>>154720391
>everything is don't like is schizo
I'm glad 4chan is dying
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>>154720967
shut up, woman.
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>>154720967
It's a problem when everything is cringe and corny. Monotony is a problem.
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>>154721014
That’s stupid man, there’s actual evil in the world its not cartoons you don’t like
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>>154720433
>didn't even change the last sentence
Millenials can't meme
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>>154721020
>there's actual shit in the world you should be caring about, why do you care, man?
Then why the fuck are you here when there's actual shit you should be caring about?
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All the crap North American animation is suffering from can be traced way back to the Hays Code which paved the way for the FCC, ACT, and E/I.
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>>154720433
>limp dicked vauge MUH POLITICIANS LIE
go back.
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>>154720385
>Beavis and Butthead
>boomer
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>>154720385
John K. started the tradition of pedophile animator.
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>>154720433
You can criticize zoomers all you want, at least they didn't import spics like boomers or millenials.
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>>154720385
For all the shit i give boomers they were so creative, and utterly mog millenialcucks to death
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>>154721143
The “pedophilia” from him millennials hate is talking to them like the person they were born as instead of the person social media made them into. They explicitly explain that if you find them normal at 18 years old sexually attractive instead of their gay current self, that's pedophile stuff.

People in the industry avoided this kind of “pedophilia” but lost the child audience since they don't want to grow up into gay woke Marxists.
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>>154720391
It's guy
It's always guy
I should feed AI more articles from https://manlyburger.substack.com/ to see how well it can pin down guy's mental illness
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>>154720724
>A toy can't be digitally reproduced(without an expensive 3D printer) and can be a permanent solid reminder of that piece of fiction. It was a damned good way to make money and help sell their brand.
I agree with you in this one, however you could add that none of the new media has cool or good stuff to purchase merch for, the last time a new western IP was had any kind of massive success was with Ben 10, after that CN proceeded to produce lame and gay cartoons, (adventure time, Steven universe) no kid would purchase merch for.
Futhermore, it doesn't help that big retailers are very skeptical of new merch in general because they essentially have to eat up any unsold merch loses, case in point Disney Star Wars
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>>154720433
>>154720385

>Fixed

HAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>154721142
Mike Judge is a boomer you dumbfuck
>>154721468
I mean I’m pretty sure that pic that includes Fixed is just representing Genndys work in general
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>>154720385
This is primarily due to 3D animation becoming the mainstream in the Anglosphere, resulting in a lack of funding for 2D animation including the training of animators
And the media oligopoly made it even worse
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>>154720385
Low scale jobs outsourced to Asia means no one can start from bottom anymore in American animation industry. Which sets way for inevitable nepotism and it's consequences.
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>>154720433
Literally none of those were created by Gen Z
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>>154720876
>>154720908
Millennials are gonna be the next boomers in terms of being fucking hated once the boomers finallykick the bucket, imagine growing up in uncensored anime like cowboy bepop and the proceed to produce lame emasculated garbage such as Steven Universe, no wonder this generation also has the biggest amount of toxic feminist women ever
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>>154721894
Hush, zoomer. You have corruptive powers. You taught your grandmother how to say fr no cap and fire.
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>>154720876
Bojack Horseman destroyed peoples idea of what a "good cartoon" is
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>>154720433
>OP's image struck such a nerve anon had to lie to get back at him
Lol, lmao even
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>>154721402
>https://manlyburger.substack.com/
If cringe were fatal this would be a lethal weapon
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>>154721986
Bojack Horseman is one of the few good adult cartoons.
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>>154721847
The nepo class is crashing boomer businesses, kek
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>>154721847
This, 100% this, there’s people in the industry who barely know how to animate cause they go into it expecting to only be able to storyboard.

Big Shitty Greens proves how proud western animators are of not knowing how to animate and glorifies outsourcing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pHpk1hmfZ10&ra=m
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>>154721143
No, that was Matt "Getting his krusty yellow toenails massaged on a flight with Epstein" Groening
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>>154721955
Cool post anon, but that has got nothing to do with this discussion
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>>154720491
Namefag is retarded anyway. Imagine being mindbroken by the class separation like some Indian, and repeating boomer this boomer that.
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>>154722218
No
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The reality is that we have less skilled creatives due to how technology has made it far easier to do a lot of shit artistically. People aren’t able to learn as good as they did in the era were nearly every animator knew how to ink a cel.
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>>154722740
>we have less skilled creatives due to how technology has made it far easier to do a lot of shit artistically.
Bullshit. Random porn artists draw better pictures and comics and make better animations than anyone on Disney TV and CN. The real problem is that only pathetic nepobabies without talent are the only ones getting a chance.
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>>154722222
kek'd and chek'd
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>>154720385
Your meme is bad and you should feel bad.
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>>154722218
normal words
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>>154721468
The funniest part is watching people with no understanding of animation pretend they’ve somehow outgrown one of its greatest craftsmen. They mistake their own inability to appreciate a style for proof that the style has failed.

Tartakovsky built a career on visual language, timing, and creativity that most artists never reach. Meanwhile, the loudest critics are still trying to convince everyone their boredom counts as insight.

Some people create decades of work. Others create opinions about it. The difference is obvious.
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>>154723849
Your art looks like shit, Guy
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>>154723894
>>154723849
guy's art looks like every "artist progressing through mental illness with self portraits" late stage piece
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>>154722033
You people socially adjust to unemployable artists to avoid being “cringe” and cope by blaming capitalists Boomers and chuds, even though none of the artists can invent wholly original properties like I can since doing so requires preserving your individuality instead of saying “THE AKIRA BIKE SLIDE RULES!!”
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>>154723849
>>154723894
>>154724041
Nigga confront my original universes or shut up. Attacking outsiders to feel better about your failed animation career won't work anymore, it also largely failed with Chimptopia.
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>>154724041
Did he used to make normal-looking art in the past before his schizophrenia took over? IIRC he has worked on Homestuck
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>>154724146
Its like they're trapped in a time loop repeating the same babble since they learned you have to speak the same as industry people to get a career
(then industry people became unemployable and Most people started speaking more normally in this community)
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>>154724146
>he has worked on Homestuck
But he's getting no money, of course. He'd give the franchise a bad rep.
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>>154720406

Relevant to the topic, one time I was bored so I decided to look at the Letterboxd of Hamish Steele (that faggot who made that awful cheap beanmouth therapyslop show deadendia) and saw that almost all of the western animated films he watches are normie shit, like Pixar, Disney, Dreamworks, etc., there’s no Ralph Bakshi films, no classic Warner/Fleischer shorts, very little niche/artistic indie films, this is the artistic taste of these millennial showrunners. They don’t view animation as an art form, they view it as something to consume.

https://letterboxd.com/hamishsteele/
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Millennial Industryfag here
Boomers are still in charge of what gets made. Boomers are especially in charge of feature animation. Disney, Pixar, and Skydance are all making boomerslop. Not sure about DreamWorks but a lot of their movies are coming out better than anything else. Gen Xers are the most respected by boomers so aside from the chosen few millennials that got to make shows in their 20s (Alex Hirsch, Dana Terrace, Matt Braly, Rebecca Sugar) a lot of them just barely started getting leadership roles. Due to boomer retardation and the echoes of the writer's strike, there is so little work now that a lot of millennials have regressed to entry level jobs or left animation altogether. There are very few people under 30 working in mainstream animation now, and most zoomers are working at Glitch and Spindlehorse making minimum wage. It's childish for zoomers to start talking like millennials are ruining their workforce when they are simply not making those decisions. Generation wars are stupid anyway. Just another way to divide by class.
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>>154724210
Let's be honest, watching something doesn't mean you could learn from it. Just look at all those millennial artists into the industry that were raised by videogames and anime. They didn't learn a single damn thing from them. Shonen slop is just "hero punches villain, hero win" over and over yet when a millennial makes a cartoon the anime influence gets twisted into gay shit. Rebecca Sugar turned the fusion from Dragon Ball into lesbian sex for fucks sake
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>>154724146
You can look at his earlier substack stuff and his old fan art and see that he was a pretty average amateur artist in the heyday of DA.

Schizophrenia really fucked him up bad
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>>154724403
I have a sci-fi universe, a superhero universe, a paranormal universe, multiple vehicular combat series, and thousands of characters spread across them and other projects in development.
Gonna say anything about that, gimp?
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>>154721847
eventually creating a lack of seniors with the kind of experience and skills the old guard got naturally climbing the ladder
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>>154724424
You have exactly zero coherent stories or sequential art.
I've reviewed your prose before, it's just as muddled and scattershot and full of errors as one would expect from a patient with severe untreated schizophrenia. Your thoughts are inherently disordered, the narratives in your mind are nonsensical, and that makes you incapable of forming a narrative structure for others to follow.

The basics of cause and effect are utterly broken in your mind.
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>>154724469
By “coherent” you mean “in conformity with the industry.” didn't read the rest
The characters and universes EXIST, you refuse to say anything about them lest I become a new Jack Kirby who refuses to let his projects be enjoyed without fair arrangements.

You're an industrial mind slave from people who thought I really wanted to draw cartoons. I tricked them into making you as pathetic as you are
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>Hillenberg
>Judge
>Timm
These guys are Gen X. You know that right?
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>>154724509
>By coherent you mean
I mean logical and consistent with a basic understanding of reality (eg cause and effect, that mental states by themselves don't alter reality, linear time, etc.)
You, because of a serious mental illness you have denied or been denied treatment for, have a compromised understanding of reality.

>The characters and universes exist
Are we talking Chris-Chan style "these stories I write are actually real and existent and I view them rather than imagining them" or are you just poorly stating that you wrote some shit?
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>>154724538
Baby boomers are widely regarded to be the ones born from 1946-1965, tbf though there is some cultural overlap between late boomers and early gen Xers
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>not letting zoomers make shit
Okay here's the upcoming slate of zoomer cartoons
>what if a bunch of lowlifes worked minimum wage
>what if someone had a TV or other such object for a head
>what if something had deep lore
>relationships are scary guys
Wow. Real creative!
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>>154724538
Bro, leave Gen X out of your bullshit
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>>154724396
>watching something doesn't mean you could learn from it.
I think you meant to write "watching something doesn't mean that you learn from it" because there are actual artists that have learned from. Battle shonenshit for example is the equivalent of capeslop and they both have the same premise of good fighting evil but Sugar only used shallow references to anime like DBZ, Utena and Ghibli movies. She took 0 lessons from them or from other older cartoons because she herself is a garbage writer.
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>>154724619
Nah
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>>154724570
>gay moment
In the 00s toon people said “awkward” instead of “not coherent.” the point is that the industry community doesn't care about skill, just correctly conforming.

Lol at you trying to dominate my psyche like a pedophile into thinking that you're not using a common social signal that doesn't follow any standard definitions (if I was a teen who believed you, it would make me autistic, and you would enjoy jacking off to perverting my development)


And youll seek endless diversions rather than simply make any kind of statement about my characters and projects as AI does for me on a daily basis. Keep it up and you'll just keep making my projects more alien to AI haters, pederast.
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>>154720634
I think I got off fairly easy, since I mostly got warnings.
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>>154720433
LMAO millenoomer got triggered
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>>154723849
How's the weather in tel aviv?
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>>154724075
I know your art looks like shit because I actually have decent drawing knowledge, dumbass.
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>the current face of zoomer cartoons
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>>154720385
Millennials are just plain evil.
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>>154720385

I'm a millennial and I have seen some of the stuff my classmates were drawing in middle school and high school and it was usually Anime, usually Dragonball Z and occasionally saw some Sonic or Zeratul/Dark Templar from Starcraft. But this was on Guam in the Pacific and the school I went to was mostly Filipinos, Pacific Islanders and a few East Asians.

Don't know what mainland, North American millenials were drawing.
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>>154724538
Hillenberg, Judge and Timm are legit boomers born in 1961-1962. Butch Hartman (not mentioned in this thread oddly enough) was born in 1965, barely qualifying as an Xer.
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>>154724984
>gets called out for being a pederast
>reveals tiny toons level drawings
Lmao
Decades of seethe at that style not bring considered good enough I take it? Should've spent less time on grindr
>>154725149
>Starcraft
Based. Way more soulful than meming the Akira bike slide
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>>154725040
>(most likely) boomers complaining about anyone else killing home ownership
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Jesus, you people are like a moth to the flame.
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>>154722282
>script-driven
>episodic
That's the worst combination yet. Scripts would at least make sense for serialized stories, which was SU's opposite problem.
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>>154725003
Family Guy is basically the same as this, which is a gen x cartoon
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>>154725221
>Butch Hartman (not mentioned in this thread oddly enough)

Probably cause he wasn’t even that great of a creator, Fairly Oddparents only had like 2-3 good seasons that weren’t even that great and Butch was in charge of a lot more slop than good content. He’s not on the same pedestal of influence and cultural impact as people like McKraken and Tartakovsky are.
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>>154725411
this, their system is entirely ass backwards
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>>154724658
This was your most boring spergout yet
You didn't answer my questions or respond to me in any way

You are a closeted gay schizophrenic.
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>>154725379
guy's mental illness is vastly more interesting than shitty navel gazing about some dumb white kid's perception of cartoons as an industry
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>>154720592
>Man I'm glad I broke out of the Western animation phase
Pretentious dipshit
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>>154725726
>>154725756
Is following that up with an ultra gay comment supposed to be missed by me?

You people are famous for being mentally ill. 1 reason is that you defy holy laws of creativity. You can keep dodging acknowledging my series and characters, but normies will go apeshit for them, and you're developing into Hell.
>>154725379
Coward!
>>154725801
Lol owned
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>>154721847
That's not a new, it's been a problem for decades and decades and decades
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>>154725903
I genuinely wish Korea could break into the mainstream with animation too. So far it's mostly been live action/anime adaptations of webtoons and nothing else.
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>>154724619
>because there are actual artists that have learned from. Battle shonenshit for example is the equivalent of capeslop
It's not, name me 5 battle "shonen" that tackles mature themes with nuances like X Men or Justice League
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>>154724984
you got a twitter? this is great
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>>154721847
>Low scale jobs outsourced to Asia means no one can start from bottom anymore in American animation industry.
Castlevania was made in the States and recent high quality shows are outsourced to Canada or France if you going to talk about something at least educate yourself self on the subject
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>>154724984
>spumchud drawfag
Dangerously based, I tend to only see loli artists on this board.
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>>154725236
>reveals tiny toons level drawings
and yet your artistic skill is below tiny toons level. Funny that.
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>>154720408
https://youtu.be/Lv7ECqE1YgY
Spomgebob literally mocked you people
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>>154720385
At least one major reason, in my opinion, is our generation's almost chronic hatred of sincerity.
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>>154720592
Based DoremiCHAD
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>>154725976
Yeah it’s @atlobs_the_43rd
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>>154726133
Oh hey, I recognize you! I think someone reposted your art as an OP starting some kind of John K culture war. You make great stuff, though I personally think Xitter is a worse place than this board. (Which is saying something.)
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>>154726007
Again you cannot say anything about my art without acknowledging my stories and characters. Your buttbuddies told you I wanted to draw cartoons so you won't talk about anything else but my “opportunity” to have a job in a dying cartoon industry.
>>154724984
>>154725992
Those are the gay type.
The good Ren and Stimpy fans/artists went on to have friends and children and not enough time for the internet.
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>>154725846
guy being hyper Christian is really funny because of his constant extreme heresy
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>>154725236
>>154726007
How are "tiny toons level drawings" even a bad thing? I’m not a fan of Spielberg cartoons myself but from what I’ve seen they can actually look good visually, they even had a couple of Spumco guys working on them early on.

I don’t even think John or the Spumco guys hated on that shows art, they just hated its cliche writing.
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>>154726256
>they even had a couple of Spumco guys working on them early on.
Just a shame Speilberg was conservative against anything artistic, which was why Hi-Spirits got reworked into Haunted House.
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>>154726133
This reminds me of an insect trapped in amber, lost in nostalgia for shows like Ren and Stimpy and Tiny Toons with no real life left.

I prefer to make my own original stories and styles that can be expanded on for eternity.
>>154726242
It's a simple fact that God created unique individuals and so you can’t assess someone’s art without learning what makes him unique, instead of his prowess at copying the art of old shows. God has no use for copy machines.
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>>154726281
Class this is what we call "delusions of grandeur"
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>>154725003
>Caved in and removed the Gameoverse hatred.
>Now it's just a boring indie show.
Indie is just TV level now. Peoples expectations are too high.
>>154725926
Korea does have influence in Western Animation fans.
Just only with Jadoo and Kpop Demon Hunters though.
>>154726190
Stop arguing with people online Anthony. I have friends who made animation, if that one Argentinian cartoon can shove a cartoon out in 19 days so can you. Not hating or anything just at least try.
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>>154726299
Nigga its just my philosophy.

You can say NOTHING but cycling the same few phrases, the opposite of a creative person.
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>>154726319
I'm talking less about influence, and more about Koreans animating for themselves rather than for other people. Filipinos have the same problem, and most people imagine picrel as Filipino animation.
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American cartoons were just always slop. It took the popularity of anime to wake people up and make the industry realise how behind it was
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>>154726256
If "below Tiny Toons level" includes the Kennedy cartoons, then yes. That is a bad thing.
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>>154720592
As an autistic person, I'd be way more into western animation if it had a MAL or anilist equivalent that rigorously documented staff continuity and everything.
I like anime because I can go and see my top staff and studios and voice actors very easily on any site I use for cataloging, but with cartoons there is no real equivalent aside from letterboxd, which SUCKS for this stuff first of all, but also, it doesn't respect cartoon roles and primarily only catalogs films.

So, sucks to suck.
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>>154726256
Generally Tiny Toons is the only Ruegger project I can say "looks good visually". I'd count Sylvester & Tweety mysteries too if it was actually a Ruegger show.
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>>154724396
>Rebecca Sugar turned the fusion from Dragon Ball into lesbian sex for fucks sake
Fusion has always been pretty homoerotic.
You either do a gay little dance with your buddy or crotch thrust at each other.
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>>154726527
Spoken like somebody who also says Sam and Frodo are gay.

Truth is that friendship/mentorship/warrior camaraderie/etc exist in the same psychological space that gays pervert for their lifestyle. They can’t truly experience those things and are jealous so they enjoy ruining them for normal people by associating them with their lifestyle.
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>>154726404
>American cartoons were just always slop
Hopefully you mean television cartoons, and even then, no.
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>>154726567
>Spoken like somebody who also says Sam and Frodo are gay.
Nah it's just kinda gay already.
People called Dragon Ball pretty gay back in the day just for being called "Dragon Balls" and being about a bunch of muscley guys without shirts screaming.
>Truth is that friendship/mentorship/warrior camaraderie/etc exist in the same psychological space that gays pervert for their lifestyle.
naaaah i think you're just schizo
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>>154726527
How the HELL is this gay? Cool things are gay now? This is why western cartoons and comics will never be as popular and good as anime and I say this as a /co/ user since 2010
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>>154724210
>there’s no Ralph Bakshi films

I wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks Ralph Bakshi is muy problematic
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>>154726651
You put on earing and fuse with another man balls first, or you do a big gay dance. Fusion was always gay.
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>>154726404
list the best non-US/Japan cartoons you've ever seen
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>>154724210
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, there's no way!
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>>154726640
Pederast reasoning



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