Why are Sentinels so fucking cool despite having zero character?
because muties are annoying cunts
>>154766665They aren't, they're fodder mooks we're constantly told are dangerous from pure author fiat
>>154766839They consistently beat mutants in multiple possible futures. Also their kill count is outrageous
>>154766665Because you think you're looking at Galactus
>>154766854Again through pure author fiat, 9/10 they're on page they're jobbing pathetically
What's the best Sentinel design and why is it the MvC version?
>>154766665Why is he on a giant toilet?
>>154766865Forgot pic
>>154766888Master Bowl
>>154766864The same can be said of most comic book villains.
>>154766865You have shit taste
>>154767393What's wrong with the MVC design?
>>154766839Being top tier in MvC makes them far more believably threatening than "Ice Cream Sharter is actually an Omega Level Mutant who poops ice cream so cold it's colder than the heat death of the universe!!!!"
>>154767301Can it really?
>>154766854>their kill count is outrageousthat's only because of Cassandra Nova taking over a bunch of sentinels and destroying Genosha with themthe non-Cassandra Nova kill count is like low hundreds at most, and to be honest, it's non-existent since krakoa made all those deaths to sentinels and the associated suffering meaningless by simply bringing the dead all back to life while shouting fuck you idiots you're too stupid to get this at the readersmeaning the kill count is back to 0, or whatever it's risen to since then>multiple possible futuresthe marvel multiverse contains all possible actions and so in an infinite number of futures the sentinels beat mutants, while in an infinite number of other futures the mutants beat sentinels, while in an infinite number of other futures godzilla and red raven beat sentinels and mutants and set up a jubilation lee dairy farm where jubilees are constantly milked to provide milk to feed the infinite number of deathloks passing through, since they can't eat solid foods any more and mutant milk is very nutritious, but the jubilees need to be kept near constantly pregnant and that's where miles morales comes in, his ass is everywhere
>>154766888why are you not
>>154766864Wtf is author fiat, everything that exist in comics is fiction. Lore is a you need an actual trained x-men team to handle even a couple of them and it better have alphas on it if not an omega, and sentinels are continually improving.
>>154768188bitches don't know about Justin
>>154768162>Multiverse so doesn't countFaggot. They made an entire story about how it keeps happening
>>154766665MvC2 had a lot to do with it.
>>154768329and it also keeps not happeningthat's the point of an infinite multiverse
>>154766665Giant robots are cool. Doesn't really matter how much they really get done. It's hard to make a big robot lame.
>>154767903This might be legitimately the dumbest fucking argument I've ever seen
>>154767301Lmao no, most villains are actual villain and not mooks, guys who headline issues and arcs. Sentinels are mooks, they exist to be fodder, same as HYDRA mooks and AIM mooks
>>154766665Because their goal is quite noble attempting to exterminate a despicable race like the mutants.
>>154766665Politicians wasted tax payers' money so that they can build an AI data center and take away jobs from pure non-mutated humans.
>>154768471>>154766948>>154766865>>154767521Did the videogames actually pumped up the popularity of the Sentinels'
>>154766854>Also their kill count is outrageousOnly because 98% of all mutants are just normal people with some weird "thing" thats their mutation and their power isnt something cool or powerful in a fight.
>>154768612Doc Ock is a complete joke for roughly the first 50 years of his history.I don't think Apocalypse has ever accomplished anything.Ra's and Vandal Savage are also pushovers.I'm not even counting low tiers like Rhino, Scorpion, Vulture, Penguin, Two Face, Riddler, Sabertooth, The Owl, Scarecrow (DC), Scarecrow (Marvel) or any other 'supervillain' that doesn't have the reputation to headline a crossover or important arc.Showing supervillains actually doing horrific things in the comic as compared to author fiat or 'it happened offscreen' undermines the capabilities of the heroes. We are always told how horrible villains are but we only very rarely actually see them succeed at doing horrible things. When it comes to things we actually see on page it's 90% jobbing.
>>154769048Marvel vs Capcom made alot of people aware that Sentinels even exist, and then alot of people saw them in the Xmen cartoons for the first time and really liked them.
>>154769096They turned the entire planet into comptronium in a few recent timelines
Vaguely Olmec-headed giant robots.
>>154766854>>154769096Kill count is outrageous because they inevitably start genociding all organic life.
>>154769099sabretooth isn't a jobber, he killed silver fox on panel, he killed daken, he's beaten wolverine many times. When he loses its often because whoever he was about to fuck up had someone else jump in and help.
>>154768471>>154769048>>154769103Absolutely retarded newfags at work- X-Men cartoon was a full 4 years before the game came out, and that's where everyone knows the Sentinels from.
>>154766665Master Mold scared me as a kid ngl
>>154766665the only sentinel design i like are the ones from the days of future past movieparticularly the future ones
>>154766747fpbpmutants are fags, minorities, commies, and general scumthat alone makes whatever opposes them be coolthats why they need to make every organization that is against mutants retarded, corrupt, oppressive and basically exactly what the left is, but dressed up as if it was the rightits the only way they can make those seem like a villain, otherwise even the bad guys would just be way better than the scum that mutants stand for
If mvc sentinels were in 616, we wouldn’t be seeing so much jobbing and more mutant asskicking
>>154766665>What if the terminators were like 30ft. Tall How could that not be cool?
>>154766665I wonder if sentinels are also used to deal with invading aliens
>>154770858>X-Men cartoon was a full 4 years before the game came out, and that's where everyone knows the Sentinels from.Sentinels were jobbers in that show, bro.Meanwhile MvC2 Sentinel was actually a top-tier pick.
Sentinels has highest mutan kills even killed several X-men (Their death not stick obviously)
>>154766665I prefer the Sentinels from the movie Days of Future Past, they were threat to behold. Why hasn't Marvel comics decided to make ones like those? Now that would be a real challenge for the X-Men
>>154766665Big robots are cool and they have a killer design.That's it./thread
>>154769280Jack Kirbyfied Olmec head is the secret sauce to the design
>>154766665Giant robots are always well liked >>154770858Correct point here. The first Season gave them amazing presence both in voice and theme music. Night of the Sentinels did a lot of heavy lifting but the future appearances in the first season help establish them and Akira Nishitani stated they wanted that robot in Children of the Atom because of those episodes, Marvel ask them to use an original design to avoid confusion on height differences.
>>154771920Where are you getting this retarded logic that people can't like a good heel/jobber?
>>154770858>X-Men cartoon was a full 4 years before the game came outAnd alot of people never watched the cartoon retard. But then one day they play marvel vs Capcom and theres this awesome big robot guy that they've never seen before.
>>154766665Because apart from all the villains, wizards, aliens, gods, and demons, the sentinels managed to successfully take over the world a few times. And were so successful at it that time travel had to be employed to do something about it. Doom never accomplished thatOr the SkrullsOr (kinda) the BadoonOr TerraxOr the BroodOr the DeviantsOr the High EvolutionaryOr any evil mutant teamOr DormammuReally tall robots did what ancient eldritch entities with the power of a Skyfather, cosmic beings, or galaxy wide space empires could not.
>>154769096Killing mutants is not as impressive as killing Thor, Wonder Man, Nefaria, Juggernaut, Hulk, other Hulk, that third Hulk, Abomination, the FF, Ultron, or any of the other major colossal scale speedbumps in the way of taking over Earth. If the Sentinels can kill Juggernaut in a physical confrontation, no mutant has a fucking chance. And this is before we get around to the incredibly high number of super genius types that could do something super smart to stop the robots like hack them, build an anti-robot ray or something like that. Doom, Reed, Thinker, Wizard, MODOK, Red Ghost, Dock Ock, Pym, Stark, Cho, Leader, none of them could ever think of something to stop the giant robots somehow.
>>154775317Its just another one of those things where Xmen just dont really fit into the marvel universe in general, and would be better off in their own separate universe.
>>154766665They're one of the few that can make the faggy purple/pink palette work somehow
>>154766854>They consistently beat mutants in multiple possible futures. Also their kill count is outrageousThat's part of what makes them ridiculous and takes me right out of the story. >oh no! superbeings who can push the fucking moon out of orbit and can mind control people on the other side of the planet are getting uppity, what do we do?>not to worry I just kitbashed some anime giant robos together they got this no problem
>>154766665honestly it's just another case of mook army being actually cool af. / why we love henchmen.they're henchmen just giant robots.
>>154775483>>not to worry I just kitbashed some anime giant robos together they got this no problemTheir whole "thing" is improving themselves after every defeat, and theres so many of them they can throw waves of them at enemies. Even if they lose, they slowly get a bit better each time until you reach those apocalyptic futures where they've improved so much they cant be stopped. Its a cool concept.
>>154766665Sometimes a lack of character IS a character. Killer robots are scary because they're so mechanically cold. Like they said in terminator >It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop. ever. until you are dead.It makes for a decent threat.
>>154772798This
>>154776018They should probably just stick with Nimrod being the leader/higher intelligence
Anybody here a mutant? We'd very much like to destroy you.
Probably my favorite Sentinel design look
They have a Sentinel head on display at the Avengers Doomsday booth at SDCC, looks pretty cool and accurate desu
>>154777927It's all just fanservice bait to trick people into seeing the movie
>>154778120Oh I know, too little too late, and they'll probably never have comic-accurate Sentinels in the MCU after this.
>>154766665Because cool robot
>>154776018Why cant they just make more Nimrods?
>>154775317Fantastic Four have stopped Galactus from destroying the Earth. Air Walker, Terrax, and Indominus from destroying the Earth. Stopped Kree and Skrull invasions. Stopped rogue Kree Seintinels from destroying the Earth. Stopped Aaron from destroying the Earth. Stopped Annihilus and Blaastar from taking over the Earth numerous times. stopped super Skrull numerous times. Stopped numerous other high powered cosmic scale entities from doing the same....but they were killed by large purple robots. That's what did it. Big purple robots killed them. Reed couldn't think of a way to handle those.
>>154778365Nimrod was created in the future and after they made a Mother Mold, which is a giant Sentinel Head that creates nothing but Master Molds.It's explicitly stated in the Hickman run that you have to make a Mother Mold first to have the tech to make a Nimrod and even then, Nimrods are so powerful that you can only have one active at a time without nerfing them so they don't destroy creation
>>154778515X-men was always stupid nonsense that didn't gel with the setting it was a part of. You think when Kang is timeline surfing that all the X-Men bad futures are like shitty movies for him
>>154778515..the very same Reed that managed to cobble together an anti-Watcher gun when Watcher powered Doom was attacking them on the moon. Somehow tall robots managed to get the best of this guy. Same guy that also managed to handle Doombots of all shapes and sizes. Kree robots, some of them get into Hulk levels of capability, That weird enforcer robot Galactus used to have back in the 60s, and Thinker's Awesome Android.
>>154778520That's certainly the kind of retarded, nonsensical asspull you shit out when you don't actually think through the implications of your plot. >>154778515>>154781204If you want to no-prize it, the original Days of Future Past not only presents a continuously upgrading Sentinel army it also takes place 33 years in the future relative to the then present day. You could just easily say that the FF was taken out by their own villains long before the events of the story as you could say that Reed eventually couldn't keep up in the face of constant attacks by an ever expanding army of constantly upgraded Sentinels.
Has Magneto ever canonically controlled the sentinels?
is a giant robot really the best way to capture select individuals in a highly dense urban areas? imagine seeing the multibillion dollar giant robot step over the pothole ridden main street that your district never fixed for over 15 years
>>154771920Because the revelation of that story wasn't that they were gonna just kill mutants, but that they would turn back at us, as they told Trask: mutants are human and humans need to be saved from themselves. The real horror is that they would go after us humans at the end and we can't fight them. In DOFP stories, the entire world and civilization are destroyed, not just mutantkind.
>>154782759That's the first episode of TAS and it's funny.> don't panic, civilians, we're here just for the mutantsThey said calmly, while destroying a mall.
>>154771032With all I hear about the stories proposing pro-mutant eugenics all I'd need to hear is their planet being unironically called Xion with the leading mutants called Xionists.
>>154766665Fuck muties.
>>154782759They weren't that big at first.