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Why are Sentinels so fucking cool despite having zero character?
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because muties are annoying cunts
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>>154766665
They aren't, they're fodder mooks we're constantly told are dangerous from pure author fiat
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>>154766839
They consistently beat mutants in multiple possible futures. Also their kill count is outrageous
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>>154766665
Because you think you're looking at Galactus
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>>154766854
Again through pure author fiat, 9/10 they're on page they're jobbing pathetically
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What's the best Sentinel design and why is it the MvC version?
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>>154766665
Why is he on a giant toilet?
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>>154766865
Forgot pic
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>>154766888
Master Bowl
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>>154766864
The same can be said of most comic book villains.
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>>154766865
You have shit taste
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>>154767393
What's wrong with the MVC design?
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>>154766839
Being top tier in MvC makes them far more believably threatening than "Ice Cream Sharter is actually an Omega Level Mutant who poops ice cream so cold it's colder than the heat death of the universe!!!!"
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>>154767301
Can it really?
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>>154766854
>their kill count is outrageous

that's only because of Cassandra Nova taking over a bunch of sentinels and destroying Genosha with them

the non-Cassandra Nova kill count is like low hundreds at most, and to be honest, it's non-existent since krakoa made all those deaths to sentinels and the associated suffering meaningless by simply bringing the dead all back to life while shouting fuck you idiots you're too stupid to get this at the readers

meaning the kill count is back to 0, or whatever it's risen to since then

>multiple possible futures

the marvel multiverse contains all possible actions and so in an infinite number of futures the sentinels beat mutants, while in an infinite number of other futures the mutants beat sentinels, while in an infinite number of other futures godzilla and red raven beat sentinels and mutants and set up a jubilation lee dairy farm where jubilees are constantly milked to provide milk to feed the infinite number of deathloks passing through, since they can't eat solid foods any more and mutant milk is very nutritious, but the jubilees need to be kept near constantly pregnant and that's where miles morales comes in, his ass is everywhere
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>>154766888
why are you not
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>>154766864
Wtf is author fiat, everything that exist in comics is fiction. Lore is a you need an actual trained x-men team to handle even a couple of them and it better have alphas on it if not an omega, and sentinels are continually improving.
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>>154768188
bitches don't know about Justin
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>>154768162
>Multiverse so doesn't count
Faggot. They made an entire story about how it keeps happening
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>>154766665
MvC2 had a lot to do with it.
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>>154768329
and it also keeps not happening

that's the point of an infinite multiverse
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>>154766665
Giant robots are cool. Doesn't really matter how much they really get done. It's hard to make a big robot lame.
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>>154767903
This might be legitimately the dumbest fucking argument I've ever seen
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>>154767301
Lmao no, most villains are actual villain and not mooks, guys who headline issues and arcs. Sentinels are mooks, they exist to be fodder, same as HYDRA mooks and AIM mooks
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>>154766665
Because their goal is quite noble attempting to exterminate a despicable race like the mutants.
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>>154766665
Politicians wasted tax payers' money so that they can build an AI data center and take away jobs from pure non-mutated humans.
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>>154768471
>>154766948
>>154766865
>>154767521
Did the videogames actually pumped up the popularity of the Sentinels'
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>>154766854
>Also their kill count is outrageous

Only because 98% of all mutants are just normal people with some weird "thing" thats their mutation and their power isnt something cool or powerful in a fight.
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>>154768612
Doc Ock is a complete joke for roughly the first 50 years of his history.
I don't think Apocalypse has ever accomplished anything.
Ra's and Vandal Savage are also pushovers.

I'm not even counting low tiers like Rhino, Scorpion, Vulture, Penguin, Two Face, Riddler, Sabertooth, The Owl, Scarecrow (DC), Scarecrow (Marvel) or any other 'supervillain' that doesn't have the reputation to headline a crossover or important arc.

Showing supervillains actually doing horrific things in the comic as compared to author fiat or 'it happened offscreen' undermines the capabilities of the heroes. We are always told how horrible villains are but we only very rarely actually see them succeed at doing horrible things. When it comes to things we actually see on page it's 90% jobbing.
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>>154769048

Marvel vs Capcom made alot of people aware that Sentinels even exist, and then alot of people saw them in the Xmen cartoons for the first time and really liked them.
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>>154769096
They turned the entire planet into comptronium in a few recent timelines
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Vaguely Olmec-headed giant robots.
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>>154766854
>>154769096
Kill count is outrageous because they inevitably start genociding all organic life.
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>>154769099
sabretooth isn't a jobber, he killed silver fox on panel, he killed daken, he's beaten wolverine many times. When he loses its often because whoever he was about to fuck up had someone else jump in and help.
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>>154768471
>>154769048
>>154769103
Absolutely retarded newfags at work- X-Men cartoon was a full 4 years before the game came out, and that's where everyone knows the Sentinels from.
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>>154766665
Master Mold scared me as a kid ngl
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>>154766665
the only sentinel design i like are the ones from the days of future past movie
particularly the future ones
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>>154766747
fpbp

mutants are fags, minorities, commies, and general scum
that alone makes whatever opposes them be cool
thats why they need to make every organization that is against mutants retarded, corrupt, oppressive and basically exactly what the left is, but dressed up as if it was the right
its the only way they can make those seem like a villain, otherwise even the bad guys would just be way better than the scum that mutants stand for
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If mvc sentinels were in 616, we wouldn’t be seeing so much jobbing and more mutant asskicking
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>>154766665
>What if the terminators were like 30ft. Tall
How could that not be cool?
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>>154766665
I wonder if sentinels are also used to deal with invading aliens
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>>154770858
>X-Men cartoon was a full 4 years before the game came out, and that's where everyone knows the Sentinels from.
Sentinels were jobbers in that show, bro.

Meanwhile MvC2 Sentinel was actually a top-tier pick.
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Sentinels has highest mutan kills even killed several X-men (Their death not stick obviously)
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>>154766665
I prefer the Sentinels from the movie Days of Future Past, they were threat to behold. Why hasn't Marvel comics decided to make ones like those? Now that would be a real challenge for the X-Men
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>>154766665
Big robots are cool and they have a killer design.

That's it.

/thread
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>>154769280
Jack Kirbyfied Olmec head is the secret sauce to the design
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>>154766665
Giant robots are always well liked

>>154770858
Correct point here. The first Season gave them amazing presence both in voice and theme music. Night of the Sentinels did a lot of heavy lifting but the future appearances in the first season help establish them and Akira Nishitani stated they wanted that robot in Children of the Atom because of those episodes, Marvel ask them to use an original design to avoid confusion on height differences.
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>>154771920
Where are you getting this retarded logic that people can't like a good heel/jobber?
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>>154770858
>X-Men cartoon was a full 4 years before the game came out

And alot of people never watched the cartoon retard. But then one day they play marvel vs Capcom and theres this awesome big robot guy that they've never seen before.
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>>154766665
Because apart from all the villains, wizards, aliens, gods, and demons, the sentinels managed to successfully take over the world a few times. And were so successful at it that time travel had to be employed to do something about it.

Doom never accomplished that
Or the Skrulls
Or (kinda) the Badoon
Or Terrax
Or the Brood
Or the Deviants
Or the High Evolutionary
Or any evil mutant team
Or Dormammu

Really tall robots did what ancient eldritch entities with the power of a Skyfather, cosmic beings, or galaxy wide space empires could not.
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>>154769096
Killing mutants is not as impressive as killing Thor, Wonder Man, Nefaria, Juggernaut, Hulk, other Hulk, that third Hulk, Abomination, the FF, Ultron, or any of the other major colossal scale speedbumps in the way of taking over Earth.

If the Sentinels can kill Juggernaut in a physical confrontation, no mutant has a fucking chance.
And this is before we get around to the incredibly high number of super genius types that could do something super smart to stop the robots like hack them, build an anti-robot ray or something like that. Doom, Reed, Thinker, Wizard, MODOK, Red Ghost, Dock Ock, Pym, Stark, Cho, Leader, none of them could ever think of something to stop the giant robots somehow.
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>>154775317
Its just another one of those things where Xmen just dont really fit into the marvel universe in general, and would be better off in their own separate universe.
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>>154766665
They're one of the few that can make the faggy purple/pink palette work somehow
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>>154766854
>They consistently beat mutants in multiple possible futures. Also their kill count is outrageous
That's part of what makes them ridiculous and takes me right out of the story.

>oh no! superbeings who can push the fucking moon out of orbit and can mind control people on the other side of the planet are getting uppity, what do we do?
>not to worry I just kitbashed some anime giant robos together they got this no problem
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>>154766665
honestly it's just another case of mook army being actually cool af. / why we love henchmen.

they're henchmen just giant robots.
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>>154775483
>>not to worry I just kitbashed some anime giant robos together they got this no problem

Their whole "thing" is improving themselves after every defeat, and theres so many of them they can throw waves of them at enemies. Even if they lose, they slowly get a bit better each time until you reach those apocalyptic futures where they've improved so much they cant be stopped. Its a cool concept.
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>>154766665
Sometimes a lack of character IS a character. Killer robots are scary because they're so mechanically cold. Like they said in terminator
>It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop. ever. until you are dead.
It makes for a decent threat.
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>>154772798
This
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>>154776018
They should probably just stick with Nimrod being the leader/higher intelligence
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Anybody here a mutant? We'd very much like to destroy you.
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Probably my favorite Sentinel design look
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They have a Sentinel head on display at the Avengers Doomsday booth at SDCC, looks pretty cool and accurate desu
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>>154777927
It's all just fanservice bait to trick people into seeing the movie
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>>154778120
Oh I know, too little too late, and they'll probably never have comic-accurate Sentinels in the MCU after this.
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>>154766665
Because cool robot
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>>154776018
Why cant they just make more Nimrods?
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>>154775317
Fantastic Four have stopped Galactus from destroying the Earth. Air Walker, Terrax, and Indominus from destroying the Earth. Stopped Kree and Skrull invasions. Stopped rogue Kree Seintinels from destroying the Earth. Stopped Aaron from destroying the Earth. Stopped Annihilus and Blaastar from taking over the Earth numerous times. stopped super Skrull numerous times. Stopped numerous other high powered cosmic scale entities from doing the same.

...but they were killed by large purple robots. That's what did it. Big purple robots killed them. Reed couldn't think of a way to handle those.
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>>154778365
Nimrod was created in the future and after they made a Mother Mold, which is a giant Sentinel Head that creates nothing but Master Molds.

It's explicitly stated in the Hickman run that you have to make a Mother Mold first to have the tech to make a Nimrod and even then, Nimrods are so powerful that you can only have one active at a time without nerfing them so they don't destroy creation
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>>154778515
X-men was always stupid nonsense that didn't gel with the setting it was a part of. You think when Kang is timeline surfing that all the X-Men bad futures are like shitty movies for him
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>>154778515
..the very same Reed that managed to cobble together an anti-Watcher gun when Watcher powered Doom was attacking them on the moon. Somehow tall robots managed to get the best of this guy. Same guy that also managed to handle Doombots of all shapes and sizes. Kree robots, some of them get into Hulk levels of capability, That weird enforcer robot Galactus used to have back in the 60s, and Thinker's Awesome Android.
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>>154778520
That's certainly the kind of retarded, nonsensical asspull you shit out when you don't actually think through the implications of your plot.

>>154778515
>>154781204
If you want to no-prize it, the original Days of Future Past not only presents a continuously upgrading Sentinel army it also takes place 33 years in the future relative to the then present day. You could just easily say that the FF was taken out by their own villains long before the events of the story as you could say that Reed eventually couldn't keep up in the face of constant attacks by an ever expanding army of constantly upgraded Sentinels.
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Has Magneto ever canonically controlled the sentinels?
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is a giant robot really the best way to capture select individuals in a highly dense urban areas? imagine seeing the multibillion dollar giant robot step over the pothole ridden main street that your district never fixed for over 15 years
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>>154771920
Because the revelation of that story wasn't that they were gonna just kill mutants, but that they would turn back at us, as they told Trask: mutants are human and humans need to be saved from themselves. The real horror is that they would go after us humans at the end and we can't fight them. In DOFP stories, the entire world and civilization are destroyed, not just mutantkind.
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>>154782759
That's the first episode of TAS and it's funny.
> don't panic, civilians, we're here just for the mutants
They said calmly, while destroying a mall.
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>>154771032
With all I hear about the stories proposing pro-mutant eugenics all I'd need to hear is their planet being unironically called Xion with the leading mutants called Xionists.
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>>154766665
Fuck muties.
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>>154782759
They weren't that big at first.



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