>Amazing Spider-Man #1000 Has Only Had 400,000 Orders... It's Not Enough says Marvel's Spider-Man editor.>Amazing Spider-Man #1000 has only 400,000 orders so far, and Marvel editor Nick Lowe warns it could sell out fast.>Amazing Spider-Man #1000 is a 104-page $9.99 landmark issue arriving September 16 with major stakes for Peter Parker.>Joe Kelly and Pepe Larraz lead Amazing Spider-Man #1000 with Ravaged, introducing Ravage and a turning point for Spidey.>Amazing Spider-Man #1000 also includes backup stories by Dan Slott, Bendis, Frank Miller, Noah Hawley, and more.>At Marvel's Next Big Thing Panel at San Diego Comic-Con, Spider-Man editor Nick Lowe told the audience that the upcoming Amazing Spider-Man #1000 has only had 400,000 orders… and that it's not enough, assuring them that even at ten bucks, it is going to sell out fast…>Amazing Spider-Man #1000 is a landmark issue of Marvel's The Amazing Spider-Man comic book series, scheduled for release on the 16th of September. Around 104 pages priced at $9.99, 400,000 orders would still add up to four million dollars worth spent on the comic, which is still pretty good…>The main story, Ravaged, is written by current series writer Joe Kelly with art by Pepe Larraz. It serves as both a culmination of their run so far and a major turning point that launches the next phase. Spider-Man confronts his greatest fear and a new villain described as one of his most frightening in decades: Ravage. This personal battle is said to force Peter Parker to question his legacy and will shape the series going forward. It has been suggested that this is the past version of the future Marvel 20909 character Racage, co-created by Stan Lee. The comic will also have a cover using previously unpublished Spider-Man art by Steve Ditko, and his family were at the Marvel's Next Big Thing panel in the audience.
>>154775694Paul was a mistake! Glad he's dead!
>The issue also features a lineup of special anniversary backup stories by notable creators, Now I Can Rest by Dan Slott and Marcos Martin — A heartbreaking look at the night of Uncle Ben's death, The Gesture by Brian Michael Bendis and Stuart Immonen — A team-up between Spider-Man and the Avengers against some of his greatest foes., Tears of the Spider-Queen"by Frank Miller and Peach Momoko (their first collaboration) , Spider-Man vs. the Hand ninjas. Still Standing by Noah Hawley (his Marvel Comics debut; known for Fargo, Legion, Alien: Earth) and Patrick Gleason, An older Peter Parker reflects on his life and prepares for one final adventure., Requiem for a Goblin by J.M. DeMatteis and Humberto Ramos, revisiting the aftermath of Harry Osborn's death. And Of Webs and Six-Guns by Larry Lieber and Giuseppe Camuncoli, a Western-style adventure for Spidey.
>>154775706With Cebulski, that ugly fat Polack getting fired, they had to kill off Paul. The damage is done though, Marvel knows that their only choice to bring sales and fans back is to get rid of OMD.
>>154775721No more Cebulski means the original Gwen Stacy is staying dead forever. LONG LIVE SPIDER-GWEN.
>>154775694Just a daily reminder that the cabal want to destroy heroes and heroism, the cabal don't want heroes or the concept of heroism to be imparted to younglings, and in their place they aim to set-up cult "leaders" that they puppet, and feEl GoOd. FeEl GooD iS gOd. (BTW, this goes for both the "right" and "left" that they also aim to perpetuate)BTW, how big is too big?As big as her heart can be.They see a hole in her chest, and they immediately think there's a hole in her heart, but they don't see the hole in her chest is full of character and personality.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SitZXMpmPBo [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SEzQ2vuZhI
>>154775694It’s true that’s a third of what action comics and detective comics did with their thousandth issue. But I’m not surprised it’s not selling well, it’s something they’ve been rushing towards for a solid decade of double and triple shipping yet peters status quo only seems to get worse with each anniversary issue. Hell how long is it going to take for a second marvel comic to hit that number, two decades?
>>154775769It's true and this evil plan is perpetuated by idiots amongst us, these cancerfeggets (a disgrace to faggots who are brave and pure), infesting 4chan and other culture gardens, pretending to be anon, trying to gaslight others into thinking what they say is the true beauty and good both in spirit and SVOL, because in reality they are ugly both inside and outside, so they try to change beauty and what is good in their image. I'm here to remind people to never listen to these cancerfeggets amongst us, or atlteast counter their messaging, especially in this culture garden, and in other culture gardens as well.THE NOTICING CONTINUES:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SitZXMpmPBo [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8StC-In2nvI [Embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-ZqhuxLdPg
>>154775770They tried to rush to the finish line and have nothing to show for it. Glad we wasted four years on Pedophile Paul.No wonder Cebulski ended up fired. Marvel finally realized that the Polish have no further place in comics.
>>154775694>>154775707Are you going to post an article link or something?
>>154775809Go easy on him, he's from Poland.
>>154775770First print DC 1000 ($10) did 530k, AC 1000 ($8) did 450k
>Only 400,000 How many did they think they were going to sell?
>>154775694>#1000 is not Selling as Expected
>>154775809here you go buddy>https://bleedingcool.com/comics/amazing-spider-man-1000-has-only-had-400000-orders-its-not-enough/anf there is talk about it in this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xow-YIJ84
Why is Marvel saying this is AMS #1000 when it should be in the mid 700's if they've been published monthly since the 60's (and then when it started, it was bi-monthly) it realistically shouldn't be anywhere near 1000 issue milestone.
>>154775863At least 1 million. Probably 10x that amount because editorial are delusional retards.
>>154775922I think they’re adding Spectacular, Adjectiveless, and all of the other Spidey offshoots to the grand total.
>>154775946Is the part where Osborn fucks Mysterio part of the 1000? Help me, Cybulski is not answering my tweets
>>154775922>>154775946ASM has been twice a month for like 16 years at this point. It's been thrice a month for 3.5 years (BND and Beyond)
>>154776005The real number is ~965 since marvel's numbering includes Superior vol 1, which was 30 issues and renew your vows vol 1, which was 5
>>154775983Gwen IS Mysterio
>>154775706They took too long to get rid of pedophile Paul, oh well maybe #1100 will do better, it's still selling more than X-Men at any rate haha
>>154776062Didn't she and the guys fuse into one person at the end?
>>154775983The decision to magically turn Norman into a good guy in recent years still perplexes me.
>>154775694Unless it nixes OMD, no one cares.
>>154776134Instant redemption! Just remove your sins!
>>154776116She's got three guys and a chick inside her, what a fucking whore.
>>154776183Gwen is always a total WHORE
>>154776147I don't see how that works
>>154776236With a shotgun!
>>154776244Frank shoots people with a shotgun, it doesn't turn them good
>>154776274It was a magic shotgun! And a dose of Nick Spencer's axed run.
>>154776317right but Gwen's still dead. The baby is still dead. The Sins being eaten don't undo the deaths Norman caused is the point. You can't just say HE'S INNOCENT NOW when he still did all those things.
>>154775706
>>154775694Well no shit you stupid fuck. People have been SCREAMING at you for years now about everything wrong, and yet you smugly crossed your arms acting like it was nothing. Fuck you, you get what you deserve. Base Absolute Batman is selling more than your ASM milestone. If that isn't going to wake you up, and make changes, then you deserve to burn
>>154776330Clearly you know nothing of magic shotguns.
>>154775863Current DC ongoings sell more than that
>>154776342It's so odd to see creators being so entitled to success.No, your pile of trash on the floor is not a deep meta-deconstruction on the nature of art and thus valuable, it's a pile of trash on the floor and the janitor is right to sweep it up. I don't care how much money-laundering occurred around it.
>>154776404You would think Disney or some higher up editor would look at the Spidey numbers and say "That doesn't add up. Why the fuck is it so low?". Play on words, its LOWE. DC is wiping the floor with their numbers with no signs of slowing down. It's outright shameful that ONE absolute book is doing better numbers than ASM 1000. That shouldn't happen, but they shot the golden goose. It's like SONY email leak level of management incompetence
>>154776436>You would think Disney or some higher up editor would look at the Spidey numbers and say "That doesn't add up. Why the fuck is it so low?"That's pretty much what happened. Dan Buckley and CB Cebulski getting fired, the company moving its ass out of New York and over to California where Daddy Feige can keep a better eye on them, that was all because their incompetence and mismanagement hit critical mass. We won't see any big changes just yet, but they're inevitably going to come. Whether those changes will be any good, or be sufficient to salvage the company, is another matter entirely though.
>>154776470Also I want to point out that as we speak for SDCC, I don't think they're pushing the Midnight stuff for some reason. My question is, WHY? Wasn't this your response to Absolute, Marvel? Like the last Ultimate, this feels like you have zero faith in what you do anymore
>>154775707The JMD story might be cool but nothing else here sounds good.
>>154775841I thought both cracked one million, does that mean that the only comic to actually hit a million sales in recent memory was the first Star Wars comic post buy out?
>>154775721The only way for OMD to be reversed now is an incursion being caused by the prevention of May's death
>>154776502They're in a transition phase. Most of these people are on their way out, and don't want to rock the boat or try anything big until things are settled.
>>154776030Superior was technically amazing when it was coming out since it was the main spidey book at the time. It’s the same reason why they included the one issue of amazing scarlet spider in the total. Don’t know why Renee your vows is included though, I suppose it was the only amazing spidey title out during secret wars.
>>154776588All they have to do is do MCU synergy, and delete OMD while keeping OMIT canon bing-bong it's simple. Continuity doesn't matter! What matters is SYNERGY!
>>154776626Tom is married to Zendaya (DEI MJ) IRL Synergize with the actual MCU Spidey's life outside of films
>>154775769>>154775785>tdlrNobody cares about your demi goddess super whore cum rag fantasy preeching good and justice in a world that wants to rape her for being a slut dressed girl boss asking for it.
>>154775769>Power WomanHey schizo, the character is Power Girl.
>>154776502>WHY? Wasn't this your response to Absolute, Marvel?It's their answer to Convergence.
>>1547765682015 Star wars #1 ($5) had just barely under a million for its first print but it also came in loot crates (remember those?), the amount shipped to stores excluding loot crates was 640k
>>154775694>Nick Lowe Announces Amazing Spider-Man #1000 is not Selling as ExpectedGood
>>154775707>Spider-Man vs. the Hand ninjas>LOOK! JUST LIKE THE MCU!!!
>>154776291>...but for killing 2 muties you get a gaming PC and you can order pizza to your room
>>154775694Should've put Zeb Wells on it, now he knows how to drum up publicity.
>>154775863The new Mega Man X series is doing better numbers than that anon.
>>154776502I think I might know whyThey announced that Dan Buckley would be personally overseeing the Midnight line. This is a wild guess but I believe that would mean the Midnight line is something he was personally invested in. Since Buckley has already been announced as leaving as of next year, it's possible that incoming new management and Disney don't want to draw attention to his line
>>154776030Add the annuals and one shots they did under Amazing and you get you 1000 number
>>154777675Marvel doesn't include those in their numbering
>>154775694> his personal battle is said to force Peter Parker to question his legacyUntil they undo ONE MORE DAY Peter Parker will never face his true legacy. He sold his marriage to the devil and damned his unborn daughters soul to oblivion. A despicable and evil act, that is his legacy.they should bring uncle ben back from the dead to beat the shit out of him.
>>154777675Annuals are their own thing, they’ve missed the 50th annual funnily enough you’d think that would be something they’d advertise since I don’t think any other books have even half that many annuals
>>154775694I'm not reading 999 issues of Spiderman getting humiliatedFuck comics
>>154777776They stopped printing legacy numbering on annuals after 2018 for whatever reason, but asm is at annual #47 right now
>>154777853Last time I counted I saw it at 52
>>154775694Im sorry but the cover sucks ass
>>1547778862018 was #43, there have only been 4 more annuals since then
ASM is the retarded rump state banana republic of the IP. Completely out of step, out of touch and out of goodwill.Youth don't want this corporate youth based product they made. They just Spider-Man to be cool, and divorced men to stop putting their energy in them.
>>154775785Asian Powergirl?
>>154778228ASM needs a divorce from JRJR. It's embarrassing.
>>154778290Nah anon, the art was perfect for the material. I don't want good art giving underserved weight to the offices years long tantrum.
>>154778347Like this?
>>154777071It's a story by Frank Miller. He makes everyone he writes for Marvel fight the Hand; it's just what he does
>>154778381If itsy-bitsy is made partially of Peter's DNA, doesn't that make this kind of incesty?Kelly...
>>154775694I'm so glad JRJR got bullied off the 1000 cover
>>154777921Iirc they changed the cover artist due to JRJR's getting alot of flack on Instagram.
>>154779237JRJR cover is still in, they just have a shitzillion variants
>>154779305They are going all in on 90's era speculation to inflate the absolute dearth of interest in ASM right now.What the actual fuck were they thinking?
What the fuck is going on at Marvel HQ.
>>154777991I think that isn’t counting the 96 annual but that’s still just 48. weird I really thought we were over 50 by now
>>154775694
>>154779305But it's not the main cover if I heard it right. There was a big hubbub earlier this month where his cover was ridiculed for how bad it was.
>>154779407The bills have arrived after years of quesada driven bullshit and circlejerk while DC and Image evolved thanks to Manga.Monus for cebulski repeating the same shit too in japan.
>>154779407They are moving because they have proven unfit to be left alone. They don't bring money in and they piss away goodwill causing headaches for the offices that actually matter.It's entirely their fault.
>>154779426Whose going to write said good comics? Feels like every run is shit or relies on certain characters shipping to carry it.
>>154779426Saint Shooter please return and redeem us through sword and fire.
>>154776146No one cares about Peter getting married but boomers and old farts.
>>154779465New blood. New blood. New blood. They keep bringing in the same BND believers when Heavens Mandate is lost to them.You know how young Shooter was when he first started? Bring in some talented web artist or writer winner, give them a one shot and see the reception, then ease them into an ongoing if they can handle the pace and strain. Someone. Anyone. Leave it to Lowe and the next would be Guggenheim.
>>154779476I love how polar opposite reality is.It's guys in their twenties who grew up on the adaptations fucking confused by the comics being so out of step with what people want.
>>154779468Redeemer is just 40k batman
>>154779476Only on planet retard, aka marvel's offices.
>>154779465The message was to the editors, not writers. It's their job to keep standards in place.
>Marvel Comics will die in your lifetimeI don't know what to feel about this.
>>154779528The Redeemer reminds me why someone can love comics.
>>154779574Joyful. Culture is healing. Rejoice.
>>154779574Fine. The Marvel Comics you would have mourned has been dead for a long while.This is just a bottleneck being broken allowing the character to breath with other licensed third parties.Their fanfiction can be just as canon as Wells and Slotts fanfiction, it's just theirs might be good.
>>154775707>Requiem for a Goblin by J.M. DeMatteis and Humberto Ramos, revisiting the aftermath of Harry Osborn's death.I hate that I have to ask, but which one?
>>154779426When Big Jim tells it like it is, it is.
>>154779581Which is why it is so great.Sucks that geedubya is cucked to oblivion now.
>>154778290The sad thing is that he used to be respected for his work. But that was a long time ago.
>>154779700I read all of Warhammer Monthly, it's actually incredible how much material from those comics crossed over into the wider IP. It actually was one of those positive idea farms that Brevoort mentioned, except it wasn't done with flagrant character abuse that Brevoort does.
>>154779705His style was once, whilst always off in my eyes, at least had a genuine audience and it was much more than nepotism keeping him in the chair. He was reliable, he worked hard and never caused his writers drama. That's gold.However he so clearly was on fumes during Wells run, it was just visual and literary agony on all cylinders.
>>154775694Absolute Batman is just a space marine
>>154775694Anyone honestly thinking of buying this snapshot of a trainwreck is better off just paying someone the ten bucks to pretend to be a therapist for an hour & figure out what went wrong in their life.
>>154777763Nah.Kevin Feige announced he plans to permanently replace Peter in the MCU with Miles Morales.Marvel is setting up killing off 616 Peter Parker permanently to replace him with Miles
I think we're setting up a perfect storm here. Disney has all hands on deck for the shitshow that is Avengers Doomsday, and their gaze has now directed to Marvel Comics. They need new material post Secret Wars, because they have no real plan, and upon viewing the house of ideas they're now wondering what the fuck Marvel is even doing. It's like when a boss stops by one of his franchised stores for soda only to realize the thing he left to run itself is now poorly maintained and has a crackhead locked in the public restroom. I bet you anything a Disney suit stopped by the NY office and had a field day wondering what the fuck these people have been doing.>"The fuck you mean ASM#1000 only has a projected 400k presale?! Absolute Batman runs those fucking numbers monthly!"So yeah, when the move to California is done, expect a hard and uncomfortable meeting with layoffs. They're fucked
>>154779476>No one cares about Peter getting married but boomers and old farts.But OMD was caused by boomers and old farts not being able to let go of their vague memory of Pete from their childhood.The fuck are you on?
>>154779936>okay so what comic stories have you been having Spidey do the past decade? We need some new material and this latest outing is already got half a billion prebooked, we're all in on->what the actual fuck is this>how do we even adapt this
>>154780000Quad god of youthful truth
>>154780033>"So you mean to tell me that you intentionally rage baited your entire market with a horrible character named "Paul" right after sales spiked with Nick Spencer? Why would you do this?">"Uhhh.....Any talk is good talk online...?">"Pack your shit"
>>154775694Aren't people just waiting to read it for free on Read All Comics?
>>154775694They should have invited some dc guys to write some spidey stories
>>154775769This would be funny
>>154780195I said it before. Get Jeremy Adams.
>>154780195No one wants to touch Spidey with the awful editorial.
>>154780220Lmao Jesus. I understand the mental illness around spidey readers now. Was it really necessary to write him a kid just to kill it off?
>>154780320Well I'd like to assume that prior to OMD they were setting up to let him keep it. Which would be a plot that really tied into the then current Spider-Girl's book.
>>154780287That’s a shame. DC and marvel collabs are good vibes
>>154780165I love the enragement is engagement argument in a post Morbius world.If everyone knows about the money sink, it turns into a money fountain.
>>154780369They aren't collabs anon, they are specific agreements to let one company use another's characters in a crossover.DC has a lot of ex-Marvel staff in their writers room, there is a reason.
>>154779936If only some based nigga could swoop in and give them comics from before the 00's and Quesada's event cancer.
>>154780680There's plenty of fanon and successful cottage industry artists working and getting paid for their take under the radar lest they get a C&D.Get someone popular, bring them in and give them a test run. If it works, further work.Just for the love of god, no more BND people. They are done. They have nothing left to say.
>>154776274>>154776291WTF is this, some wacky "what if" story?
>>154780000OMD was cause by literal retards being involved in comic production. That was just all around total shit regardless of everything else. Whether its creation was based on said retards thinking that Peter being single will sell more comics is irrelevant.
>>154775922Tourist go home
>>154779476>out-of-touch boomer insists no one cares about Peter getting married but old peopleOh the irony
its because it comes off as a cash grab because of all the renumbering.
>>154781532I love how much collaboration OMD took, everyone from the head to Slott all giving input. And this was what they come up with.And that was the group that helmed for decades after.And you wonder why the comics are the least relevant thing about the IP.
>>154775694>Why is nobody buying Spider-Man comics when it's just misery porn and the writers actively write to spite the fans?I wonder...
>>154781404How do you NOT know about Punisher kills the Marvel Universe?
>>154776436>ONE absolute bookNot only that but one book that is already 20+ issues and still selling that strongly.And speaking of fucking up anniversaries, Brevoort allowed X-Factor #300 to be a tie-in to an event that wasn't about X-Factor and featured a lineup that was not the original 1960s characters that made up the team in the 80s, or the Peter David modern lineup.
is there any saving this run anymore? this shit is so tainted.
>collection of backupsWhy not make it a single 100 page story? That way you could have one giant graphic novel worthy of hype. But no. It's a regular issue with throwaways
>>154782346No.Kelly clearly came in wanting to do some antics in SPAAAAACE for a lengthy period, and considering Peter AGAIN has no cast at home it's all you can do. Then Lowe comes tells him we need Peter back for Death Spiral, Lowe in his infinite wisdom orders Paul be kept around like a bad smell just to die anticlimactically in Death Spiral, and then have two unequal halves of a shared run. Give the Paul saga a nonpology in ANV with no addressing or confronting the problems of the Wells run, we are still reading it wrong. Now we trundle drunk with a telenovela plot to #1000.New fucking office. May the Mouse bring a plague on it.
>>154782553Kelly's trying. The space shit was good. 8 Deaths was good. The art is good. Even the Norman stuff is... fine. Kelly is doing everything he can but there's only so much a man can do when your editor is a Defcon 1 level retard.
>>154779669Literally my first thought because Harry had died again, and Peter never got to deal with that because the U-Foes blew him up almost immediately after, then Wells time-skipped for Paul.>>154782346I'm largely okay with the current run, except for the moments where I'm reminded Nick Lowe sucks as an editor. Death Spiral was such a shit event, and the poor planning for such a big landmark issue like 1000 is just so bad.
>>154782758>8 deaths>space>goodKek. Don't kid around like that.
>>154782553>>154782758Never understood why we had a magic space god....thingThe Cyttorak stuff was fun
>>154776621>Don’t know why Renee your vows is included thoughTo stroke Slott's ego. Fat faggot should never have been given a chance to write Spider-Man
>>154782758Everything you've mentioned has been meh at best. The only reason it feels good to you was Kelly following the worst ASM run of all time.
>>154775694>only 400,000 ordersThat's like 350,000 more orders than it deserves
>>154780033>"I don't even read comics, but even i know that Spider-Man selling his marriage to the fucking DEVIL is a terrible idea, why would even do this to begin with?">"But sir, we can't have Peter Parker being old because we can't self insert, i mean the fans can't relate to him">"Are you fucking retarded?"
>>154782826I am fine with some space or cosmic stuff used sparingly and sensibly.Now we have two runs in a row that start with a big cosmic wipe out. It's absurd. Stop it. You have one hack move and it's a bad one. Unless you are committing to a full Planet Hulk engrossment into another setting then this is just loud nonsense.
>>154779669Judging from the title and the preview they released a little while back, I assume it's after Spectacular #200.
>>154782889>what's the age of the average comic reader?>okay, and what about the current runs do you think appeal to the youth?It's just retarded.I'm in my twenties, modern ASM is repellant to me. I do not know who this is for.I have their good work in the past to read I KNOW they used to be able to do this regularly, it wasn't a sustained decades fluke.
>>154782871Anywhere that isn't reddit which is flooded with bots finds this run meh. It's just anything feels better when you're not actively getting kicked in the nuts thrice a month.>>154782881I wonder how much of that is the variants.I also wonder what the drop off of readers will be, now that the spedometer brained people will have their magic four digits to stop.
>>154782115I don't read a lot of cape comics. The only times I read Punisher is when he gets storytimed.
>>154782889I like to think Rich Evans somewhat got traction for Disney to clean house
>>154782889I remember being a kid watching STAS and having any issue relating to an adult Peter. It's the setting, cast and characters met with the dilemmas and balancing act between where Spider-Man shines. The relatability angle is corporate nonsense bereft of narrative care.
>>154782758>Norman stuffI'm weirdly curious about this, because Norman suddenly being good is not something Kelly or Wells came up with. Spencer wrote the whole thing with Norman's sins getting eaten, and every run since has defied expectations by not having him go immediately evil. Did the Spider-man office decide that it's better to shelve the Green Goblin for now?
>>154775694>Cover is the most symmetricaly boring, Rorschach test shape shit that Romita Jr. surely scribbled on a lunch break>It's not selling well, oh ohColor me surprised!That Romita guy should stop his ego trip of drawing tens of titles (that many times look like shit) and focus on less frequent but high quality art.
>>154775694That cover art looks fucking stupid
>>154783587It's either that or psuedo-synergy with No Way Home
>>154783159Truly the hero Spider-Man needed all along
>>154777651>A comic book mini series adaptation of a 32 year old SNES game put out by a company that has been habitually late with releases for years is outselling the historical 1000th issue of one of the most well known characters in the entire history of fictionHow the genuine fuck does a company fumble THAT HARD?
>>154775769what the fuck is this schizo babbling about
>>154780045Peter would never be allowed to act this dismissive towards MJ or any other female in modern comics
>>154784382Ben is more Peter than Peter is these days.Where's my moody and angry lad running his mouth? He hasn't matured, he's just a #sadboi with the geewillikers Disney Nice mascot energy.
>>154775863Well one non-landmark issue of Absolute Batman sold 500k so I imagine they thought it would sell at least that much
>>154779936I want to believe, but Disney's first move to change the editor in chief didn't result in breaking through Quesada's OMD firewall. As funny as it would be, I don't think Wacker's getting fired in 3 months.
>>154784399>Where's my moody and angry lad running his mouth? He hasn't matured, he's just a #sadboi with the geewillikers Disney Nice mascot energy.Funny how he's been this even before Disney bought Marvel. BND Peter is just not Peter at all
>>154784461I'm taking it as a wait-and-see. I don't trust Wacker on that part because of his part in BND and how he acted on CBR and the like. If he tries to pull the same shit whether under his name or under a sockpuppet account I think it would backfire hard. But I acknowledge that he managed the Spider-Man line vastly better than Lowe.
>>154784399>moody and angry lad running his mouth?One of my favourite moments was Peter getting butthurt at his landlord constantly kvetching him for money then paying his rent in advance in fit of rage only to quickly realize that he shouldn't have done that since he needed that money. It was hilarious and relatable in the way he hasn't been for ages. And as much as I hate OMD, Peter already felt off to me in the JRJR-run of 00s that preceded it
>>154784461I see it as the first real life consequence to the end of BND. Paul was the culmination event, a true trainwreck run that shattered the comics as every problem and issue with BND mandate from the missing civilian cast, big swing reveals to mystery box nothing and everyone everywhere bending their decades long and known characters till they snapped for the sake of the plot.Mandate of heaven is gone. The move will sweep a lot of people just by geography, one way or another it will be a different office ten years from now.
>>154775707>Now I Can Rest by Dan Slott and Marcos Martin — A heartbreaking look at the night of Uncle Ben's deathDidn't we already have a story like this in the 90s?
>>154775694not even surprised.everyone's sick of Peter being a miserable piece of shit
What if somehow Paul returned and started dating Felicia?
>>154775694>why is no one reading our misery porn!?Gee, I wonder why
>>154780320The kid was there to cement Peter as getting his happy ending and riding off into the sunset so that Ben Reilly could take over. When that failed, they killed off the baby
>>154776134they literally run out of ways he can return and be bad and reform then be bad again. Especially after Siege and Dark Reign which is the ultimate apex of his character basically. So all they can do now is 'hes good ;)'
>>154782758Space was fine, eight deaths was shit
>>154775694Well Lowe maybe if you've spent the last 12 years of your editing job making the Spider titles good then maybe the biggest Spider-man landmark issue wouldn't be underperforming.
>>154784683Space was consequence free and inoffensive, it wouldn't be received half as well if we didn't just have the single worst run bar none prior to it.
>>154784747The space arc should have been the filler in between runs instead of eight deaths
Has Peter's new alien gf cucked and/or abandoned him yet?
>>154784806No, Norman makes surprisingly good girlfriend
>>154784821Norman is a more supportive character than Peters family and the woman he had a child/miscarriage with.Y'know, when he isn't making Peter beg in fear from the Vulture.What the fuck was the Wells run?
