Craziest thing happened at Nomad in Phoenix. Dorkin spent upwards of ten minutes with every person who got an autograph—not crazy, but genuinely annoying for us in line for upwards of two or three hours in an old VFW that smells like cigarettes and piss. A girl in line behind us asks how long everyone’s been waiting and no joke, he spends the next FORTY fucking minutes talking to the most autistic foid you can imagine. No exaggeration. The girl behind us says she’s on her lunch break trying to get an autograph for her boyfriend in the hospital to cheer him up and we all agree someone should tell the foid to shut up and move the line forward but none of us want to. She bites the bullet and no joke Dorkin YELLS at her not to rush him, she’s being fucking rude, everyone gets as much time to talk to him as they want. She apologized but he kept going, he hates conventions because they always try to herd people along, nobody respects his time, she’s what’s wrong with young fans today. She walked past us in line in tears. I genuinely couldn’t believe he was such a dick, and THEN posted on Instagram about how much she sucked for asking if he might let people take a hard five minutes and then get back in line. Anyway, Eltingville thread I guess since mine is signed now
Todd Mcfarlane once told me to go fuck myself which was cool too
>>154794890One of these post-2020 Eltingville foids is going to accuse Dorkin of misconduct. He's overly friendly on his socials with 19 year old shippers, has acknowledged the strange romantic messages he gets, and has Gaiman's male feminist aura. It's a concoction bound to blow up in his face.
>>154795013He's overly friendly on his socials with 19 year old shippersjfc why would you ever do this
>Insider information that most people don't know: In the past several years wherein Evan Dorkin has mostly been done making comics and his stability has primarily survived in the resurgence of the Eltingville property, he's taken to playing editor for younger comic artists who are active on Twitter and BSky, and this has included a furry hypnosis and foot fetish artist named KimberCo who DMs her comic to him whenever it updates.>Evan Dorkin failed so spectacularly to make an impact on comic readers through his career path of insulting and bullying them for 30 years that he now literally has to sniff hypnofur paws once a week to stay relevant.
>>154795031Male comic fans have always annoyed him. It's why he wrote Eltingville. So now that there's 17 - 19 year old girls on Bluesky sending Evan pictures of their OCs x Bill, he's beyond flattered to have a different audience.
>>154795088I’m glad someone finally had the nerve to speak out about male comic fans.
The girl in line he yelled at was a twenty year old redhead though which makes it crazier he’d be way friendlier with ugly Yaoifurs instead
>>154794890cool story bro.
>>154795196He literally posted about her on Instagram dude. Fact check me
>>154795174>ugly YaoifursYou weren't kidding
>>154794890Holy shit its real
>>154795238
>>154795223oh well. anyway i dont follow famous people on insta so idc much really.im just waiting to something new and interesting he might work on.
>>154795174>The girl in line he yelled at was a twenty year old redheadGot pics?
>>154795249
>>154795247He should open a booth at a yaoi con at this rate
>>154795264
>>154794890It's kinda funny that Dorkin intended Eltingville to be a criticism about geeks when he's shown a consistent set of behavior that makes it clear that Eltingville is more of an autobiographical self-report than anything else. Most geeks don't like other geeks, we can all attest to that. Eltingville on the other hand feels more like Dorkin screaming at a mirror only to go "I'm not like THOSE guys, I'm nothing like those miserable assholes".There's just something "off" about the comic, you know? Dorkin wants you to think he's like Jerry but way too much about Bill, Josh, and Pete feels extremely personal and emotionally vulnerable.
>>154795258She’s actually an animator who gave me her Instagram while we were in line if you want it for real
>>154794890>Fantastic day. Started at nine and finished up at 7 or so without leaving the table. Thanks to everyone who came by, I appreciate everyone's patience for the long wait*, your kindness, generosity and support. I had a great time meeting all of you. Thanks to Evan and everyone at @nomadcomicbookshow for bringing me out.
>>154795337>*except the one person who lost their patience and came over and started complaining that I was taking too long with everyone and I needed to speed things up. You could have used the time instead to say you were on line and couldn't stay any longer and could I just sign your book or whatever so you could go. Because I would have asked the person I was dealing with if I could take a moment to sign your books. I did that for someone who had an Uber coming later in the show. I'm sorry you didn't like the long wait and left unhappy. But I'm not an In-N-Out franchise. Some people sign, nod, take people's money and move on. For good or for bad, I don't do that. I spend time with everyone, say hello, sign their books, do a sketch in one of them and answer questions. Sometimes someone is super nervous and I'm working with them. Sometimes there's little kids, and kids get sketches. And if they want to talk about Pokemon, I'm going to talk to them about Pokemon. Sometimes someone has a story or an ask, I'm not going to tell them I don't have time. I didn't have anyone working the table with me, so I also was taking care of sales. Sometimes Square doesn't want to read people's cards. Sometimes people ask to take photos. Sometimes a Patreon backer is there and I spend extra time with them to thank them for spending extra money with me. Sometimes someone I've known for years from online is there and I'm meeting them for the first time and we talk. And, yeah, I talk a lot. That's not a secret. I didn't fly from NYC to AZ to disappoint anyone. I'm sorry you were disappointed. You could have just talked to me instead of telling me how to run my table and deal with my fans.>Speaking of In-N-Out I had it for the first time and pigged the hell out. Good thing there isn't one back home. >Okay, pack, sleep, alarm for 7:30, airport, flight/terror, home, Winky.
>>154795322Aren’t they all supposed to be parts of his personality?
>>154795336I'm....morbidly curious
>>154794890>I genuinely couldn’t believe he was such a dick, >mine is signed nowThe clear lack of balls his fans have to walk away or object on behalf of someone speaking for them is why he can mouth off.
>>154794890M-DASH DETECTEDANECDOTE REJECTED
why are people so retarded to give their social media. or even have socmedias and share it with randoms in first place. now she is probally is gonna be raided or trolled by retards in here.
>>154795400>why are people so retarded to give their social media. or even have socmedias and share it with randoms in first placeAnon....business cards
I think some of you guys are exager->first thing i see on his instagram
>>154795400Relax, nobody has posted her Instagram
>>154795414that is just me i believe that socmedia is cancer.
>>154795349They all are, but the epilogue has made it clear that Dorkin has no self-awareness or any real sense of understanding towards other geeks. It was pumped out when the whole mess surrounding Gamergate was still fresh on everyone's minds and Dorkin was afraid of being labeled as the "shitty kind" of geek that was no longer in vogue and was deemed as outdated.That's what makes the whole ending feel tasteless. He's using Jerry to pretend how he's "grown up" while in reality he's still Pete/Bill/Josh. Nobody wants to do anything with Evan. Not because of his interests or his passions, but because he's a miserable dickhead who would have been just as anti-social had he been into sports or gym culture like a normie.
>>154795377I felt bad when a bunch of us were hyping her up to complain but what was I gonna do? We’d already waited for threeish hours
>>154795455I mean he's still married isn't he?
>>154795465Isn’t his wife involved in the animation?
>>154795465You can still be married and also be a miserable dickhead to everyone else.What sours me about Eltingville is that before the epilogue, it really seemed like the ending was going to have some level of empathy and understanding towards Pete and Bill and Josh. It's pretty obvious that the guys only act this way because they're being raised by shitty neglectful parents, so you couldn't really fault readers for expecting things to be framed as tragic. I'm not saying the guys needed to end up as perfect and well-adjusted people, but that if they were going to end up as assholes to the bitter end, it would be done in a humanizing/tragic way rather than the author deflecting and projecting the shitty parts about himself onto his story as a means of ritual scapegoating.
>>154795455So he’s a self-hating nerd desperate for validation yet looks down on most other people? Is that about right?
>>154795562Pretty much. I really hope he doesn't end up being rapey or creepy or a whore because it would just end up being another Gaiman/Ellis/Vic/Whedon situation.
>>154795614The gypsy curse is real Anon
>>154795634qrd?
>>154795634Inshallah.
>>154795654Piskor's suicide note mentions him tapping into gypsy bloodline to lay a curse onto people who encouraged and led others to dogpile him when the accusations broke outExplicitly named Dorkin as having skeletons in his closet and he actually did respond afterwards
>>154795699Who were the others?
>>154795725Alex deCampi and Ramon Villalobos from what I remember The whole Piskor fiasco was fucking depressing
>>154795699Dorkin is fixated on being a good male ally, à la Whedon. He's still white-knighting for Gaiman's accusers.I dunno. It feels like those anti-gay politicians who turn out to be closeted homosexuals.
>>154795746Wasn’t Villalobos the one who got caught liking loli art on dA back in the day?
>>154795757Yeah, people that dogpile like that usually have done some shit themselves.
>>154794890>>154795247Okay I checked his Instagram and it checks out I guess. The intent seems good but obviously it doesn't work if there are that many people there to see him. Unfortunate to hear that he snapped at someone but he always struck me as someone a little socially awkward which you'd have to be to make something like Eltingville.
>>154796123Socially awkward is fine, but outright asshole isn’t. He’s a parody of his own characters at this point screaming about convention etiquette
>>154796246He should consider therapy.
>>154796266Boomers don’t do therapy, especially nerdy counterculture ones. So much of Milk and Cheese is just stuff you should tell a professional
>>154795031I thought you guys were exaggerating but I found out he has a tumblr where autistic teenage girls traumadump on him and he gives his thoughtful replies. Insane
>>154796774You can be 60 and still make foids so crazy they send you shit like this
So what's gonna be the next old comic to suddenly get a fandom?I know Crossed fans unironically exist on TikTok now
>>154796774>>154796786I should send him a message about how he humiliated my girlfriend so bad at Nomad Phoenix that she left and tears and killed herself.
>>154796774>>154796786God I hate fucking faggots like this, I hope his retarded femnazi cucks him and then gets hit with the reality that being a pussy whipped dipshit was for nothing.
>>154797323Femnazi wife*
>>154797172Please do it,
>>154797172Please do it. He deserves it for entertaining crazies on tumblr
>>154795389Why does he have two pronouns?
>>154797172He already broadcasted his view of the incident to the public through insta, so he's probably doubled down in his mind that he's in the right.Any opposition, even if from her actual hospitalized bf, would just result in a block or further lecturing that it's his time spent signing and talking about his work with his fans and anyone in line complaining should leave quietly.If I had more time I'd dwell on how to effectively get through to him how splitting the line into quick signatures with no small talk and one for conversation would let things go with less issue.Alas, I only regrettably but sincerely hope that lady's boyfriend gets a wake up call from this to not to bother wanting Dorkin or any other puffed up celebrity fuckwit's scribbles on venerated merch if it's at the expense of his gf's peace of mind.Only thing you really need to see signed is a check.
>>154795614>I really hope he doesn't end up being rapey or creepy or a whore because it would just end up being another Gaiman/Ellis/Vic/Whedon situation.According to Ed Piskor, Dorkin has some skeletons in his closet related to this subject.
>>154796266Funny enough, the guy posts on his IG account about him going to therapy and taking meds for anxiety.
>>154798354He's a nu-male feminist 'ally'
>>154796358>Milk and Cheese is just stuff you should tell a professionalM&C wouldn't exist if Evan was on medication/in therapy. That was fun of shit like that.Indie comics written by a crazy person.That's like Harvey Pekar's entire thing.
>>154797172Did she really?
Wasn't he supposed to get Vol. 2 out in like 2-3 months and it took him a year and a half? Not the least bit surprised this could be a legit story.
>>154797004>I know Crossed fans unironically exist on TikTok nowbullshit
I always felt like reading this comic would taint my soul.
>>154796774>>154796786>AutisticIf there's one thing I've learned about autists, it's that they'll die on the hill of the groups who make them feel welcome and will turn into some of the most performative fuckers you'll ever meet when it comes to politics or the values of whichever in group.It's not even whether or not he's perving on the girls. The fujo army has given him a sense of validation and belonging which he refuses to let go so he's basically downloaded the personality that they like. Not even faking it, outright reshaped to itSo nuance didn't matter. When that girl said that, it triggered something. He set out to be the whoelsome chungus creator who loves, cares about, and talks to his fans, and immediately went all in on that role then and there in the most overkill way possible>t. Diagnosed autist
>>154799086Of course not. But he doesn’t know that
>>154798575It’s wild how there are comments on his post of people who waited in line, couldn’t stay and LEFT still defending him taking forever. More than one person who couldn’t even get an autograph still sucking his dick about how great he is for not setting a time limit.
>>154795455>no real sense of understandingwhat the fuck are you talking about? he's been doing this his whole life and openly admits he based the behavior of the Eltingville kids off of himself and dudes he knew in the comics scene ("scene" as in the actual industry but also just a fan and consumer) he knows these people better than anyone else and there are normal people who recognize it as an affectionate critique and then there are screaming faggots like you who read any satire like a personal attack
>>154799992You must have a weak ass soul
I wonder if Gloomypunks is in his thread?
This guy's 61 years old and still has tremendously bad social skills when it comes to dealing with other people who also have bad social skills.
>>154796774>It's over for bullies after school, they have nothing thenlmao bullies run the world.
>>154802423Damn I guess there's no hope for the rest of us
dorkin my cock
>>154800407Exactly what part of Eltingville is affectionate?
>>154799850It's fucking weird man
>>154800022This seems correct. Nice digits too.
>>154799850>>154802899Not as weird as the tiktok fanbase for Blood Meridian.
>>154803094There's a tiktok fanbase for Blood MeridianI can understand cool edits or philosophy discussion, but if they're actually shipping people or some shit, they should ropemaxx.
>>154795088Does he fuck them?
>She apologized but he kept going, he hates conventions because they always try to herd people along, nobody respects his time, she’s what’s wrong with young fans todayIs this the inspiration he needed to finally go ahead and start a "woke" reboot of Eltingville that makes them all women and POC?
>>154795465That's not that hard dude. I was married and I'm a 400 lb tub of lard with issues.
>>154803138Don't get your hopes up, its mostly shipping and chicks wanting to fuck Judge Holden.
>>154803288Yeah he's been turned into a modern sexyman
>>154802271I like Eltingville Club and I liked other work Dorkin had done like M&C, his crowd scenes are phenomenally illustrated and I wanted to see some behind the scenes/more, so I decided to support him on Patreon for a brief time back in like 2019 or maybe 2021. I can't remember which year but somewhere around that time. It was kind of miserable because he's overall miserable and his fanbase is annoying. So uh, there's your answer and hey.
>>154795746It was legit depressing. It made me come to terms with the fact that the comic industry/community is toxic as fuck, I still feel angry at the fact that so little spoke up and don't even blame them. Having done so would've also gotten them "canceled" and it sucks that the only outcome was for every accuser, whether true or not, dogpilled on Piskor and drove him to lose what he loved most. The man legit loved comics, PLUS contributed, getting interviews with artists who barely ever spoke outside their booths at cons, spotlighting techniques used in certain issues and whatnot... The proof is that since his death, comics have continued going down the shitter. There's still good comics but I think a lot of rising artists or people who were motivated to make them due to CK quit or found it difficult to want to be involved after his death and I don't blame them, it's a damn shame imo
>>154803451Thank you for the answer.
>>154802557Before any given installment ends with them beating the shit out of each other, they're usually quite happy reciting their encyclopedic knowledge of Batman or whatever. Even if their friendship is volatile, they clearly still depend on each other. Bill and Josh arguably have the most animosity for one another, but they happily tag team the home shopping guy into a manic episode, then stay on the phone with each other to watch a movie together. Just because you don't like the ultimate thesis of, "these boys' drive to consume garbage media is inhibiting their development as men" doesn't mean its not coming from a place of affection
>>154803352But that niggas a pedophile who scalps people
>>154804008I mean, there are people who sexualize Freddy Krueger and he’s a child rapist AND a child murderer.
>>154804044You should see the Laurie and Michael shipping art.
retards.
>>154804092At least that’s better than the Michael and Jamie shippers.
>>154804141That what!?!
>>154804126what
a couple years back when eltingville spiked in popularity I @ed Dorkin and asked him about his work on these comics and he never answered
>>154795081>furry hypnosis and foot fetish artistOh fuck is it me?>named KimberCoOh thank fuck it's not.
>>154805386He only answers questions for girls. Sorry bro
>>154796774>>154796786You didn't capture the absurdity of that message. That person has a 'minor' tag on their account. Replying to anything from a kid, especially when the girl attached a pic of topless women to the question, feels like fodder for a future accusation.
>>154799992It's actually a self esteem boost for me. I am a nerd, but NOTHING like these guys.
>>154800407>he knows these people better than anyone elseThe owner of Joe's Fantasy World, Joe Gargagliano, is such a fucking realistic depiction of a 90s comic book store owner.To the point I think I actually met the guy he's based on at a Pittsburgh comic book convention/trade show. Or at least someone who fit that stereotypical mold exactly.
>>154805481Try trooning out and maybe he’ll answer
>>154804008That is in no way a turnoff, IRL serial killing pedophiles have gotten fanmail from horny women.
>>154806685Women are insane, especially on tumblr. For every normal one with a job there’s a dozen who run blogs dedicated to school shooters and cartoon pedophiles
>>154805431Hahaha. I’ve been in the community since HypnoHub went online. I probably already know you.
>>154805386LARP as a fujo
>>154808294Try it again and add on about how you think Bill is a trans allegory
>>154795011what did you say or do?
>>154809639I said his art sucks and he’s a huge hack
>>154794890That bitch can die in a fire. Dorkin took care of everyone in his line and instead of an autograph assembly line he did legit meet and greets, if it didn't fit into HER schedule? Go fucking home.
>>154796358>Boomers
>>154810713Sorry, I was a year off, cuck
>>154810671Go work on your comic book Evan, three hours in a line in 110 degree weather is bullshit and you know it
>>154810892Why are you adding the 110 degree weather part when it's an indoor event? Even if they were in and out of line in 5 minutes they would still be somewhere else in 110 degree weather. Evan Dorkin is not a source of heat.
>>154810989Inside a vfw with no air conditioning in Phoenix Arizona dipshit, standing around in the heat while he tells a furfag how great their fanfiction is for a half hour is inconsiderate at best. Go suck his dick harder
>>154811008Why would a vfw in fucking Phoenix AZ not have air conditioning you butt fucking retard? Are you a brain leaking Europoor who doesn't understand that every public building in blazing hot, barely inhabitable cities in America are prepared for that kind of heat?But let's go along with this deranged premise that a VETERAN'S OF FOREIGN WARS HALL, a meeting place for old ass dinosaur men, has no climate control in a nasty ass desert town that regularly cracks three digits in temp. And sure, it smells like cigarettes and piss, why not (this all sounds more like issues with the venue, but whatever). Why are you, a hypothetical Even Dorkin stan, enduring these conditions? Like that shit is optional, just go home (WHERE IT WILL ALSO BE 110 DEGREES AND MAY OR MAY NOT SMELL LIKE PISS AND CIGARETTES). It's not like you paid for a ticket or something. But by all means, keep trying to spin this into some kind of Woodstock 99 situation where these poor victims were being held hostage by this sadistic monster who was... (autistically) spending too much time talking to the (autistic) people waiting to talk to them.And you know what, fuck it, while we're here, what the fuck else are you going to do in fucking Phoenix Arizona? This is pure loser on loser crime
>>154795614Watch out, the Vic guys who like him for Broly patrol this board.
>>154812153>Why would a vfw in fucking Phoenix AZ not have air conditioning you butt fucking retard?Oh boy you suck at deflecting. Either that or you can’t read. Just kill yourself, Dorkin. Your time will come.
>>154812153You know what’s funny? You share the same first name with another shitty comic artist.
>>154812199Worse, some of us like him for Kirk
He’s become one of them…
>>154810671If Dorkin truly wanted to be considerate of everyone he should have two lines or at least made his "If you just want me to sign without conversation, come up and ask" policy clear with a big sign.
why are you retards trying to start something out of nothing, like always?
>>154812967A prominent figure in comics just outed himself as a huge toxic asshole despite writing a comic about toxic assholes in the comics scene. It kind of important and colors Dorkin's entire history and reputation.
>>154813170If you follow him on social media its evident he's a huge crank, its part of why he wrote the Eltingville kids so well, he's just as crabby as them, but he also has a job and basically knows how to behave in public
>>154812967He jumped on the Piskor hate train for less. I'm just trying to nudge some karma.
>>154798354He's a greedy little slut.
>>154795322Miyazaki says this and then absolutely loves Hideaki Anno, the quintessential harcore otaku more than his own son
>>154802899>SpeedwagonIsHubbableIt would have to be a JoJo fan...
>>154813170>He’s toxic because…he spent time with fans!
>>154798354Because he's making fun of the retards that bought into the idpol nonsense.
>>154814189You're ignoring the part where he yelled at someone for trying to tell him how to run his line and kept ranting about it even after she agreed it was his right to run the line the way he wanted.
>>154812333>Oh boy you suck at deflecting. Either that or you can’t read.Okay so you admit you're just making shit up and adding unnecessary details to your nontent to make it sound spicier than it is. "He made them wait in 110 degree weather!" As if they're outside in the scorching sun or some shit. Yes, who could have foreseen that it would be hot when they left their house in the middle of July in Phoenix Arizona. If only they weren't standing in line the weather would have been nicer.What's the next horrific cruelty the sadist inflicted on them? They were forced to stand upright, and close to each other! Oh it's certainly over for mr milk and cheese, we got him!
>>154814463Are you being purposefully retarded or does it just come naturally
>>154814463>They were forced to stand upright, and close to each other!Not that anon, but have you ever actually stood in a line for more than an hour? Much less *7*? Unless you're someone who stands in one place all day for a living like a cashier, it's agonizing as you're using muscles and putting weight on joints you normally don't use for prolonged periods. To see this enormous line and lack the awareness to not force them to stand and wait for any longer then an hour speaks volumes. They say you can a lot about a person by how they treat wait staff at restaurants. Well, we can see how Dorkin treats his fans - expecting them to suffer for hours just for the privilege of meeting him. And then blow up when confronted about it.
Hold on guys I'm just getting some intel, Evan Dorkin didn't tuck in the people waiting in line and give them a forehead kiss at night. How were they supposed to have sweet dreams? It was 110 degrees in Arizona for some weird reason and Evan Dorkin just let that happen. This will not stand! Unlike the people in Evan Dorkins pogrom line.
>>154815230>Not that anon, but have you ever actually stood in a line for more than an hour? Much less *7*? Yes I've waited in line for hours at places like airports and DMVs where there's no alternative and you basically have to be there. That's partially what's getting conflated here, because in no way is getting to meet a washed alternative comics artist a mandatory activity. Like, you can just go home, you don't need to be there, it's a completely optional activity.Also the line isn't moving slow because of some systemic inefficiency, or because Dorkin was late or taking long breaks, it was moving slow because of the service being provided to the people waiting in line. The people were waiting for the service that they would also be receiving, that would also take a long time, and also contribute to the wait. So all parties involved are contributing to this problem and suffering/benefiting equally.AND, you can tell it's a non-issue because of all the needless fanfic being invented. No one was waiting in line for seven hours like you said, the entire signing lasted 7 hours, the op said wait time was like, 1-2 hours. I agree waiting two hours in line to meet any comics artist sucks, but that's why I simply wouldn't do that.The objectively correct solution is this>>154812896But that's a reasonable middle ground and it's not fun to argue like retards about a non-event
>>154815648The difference is that every convention has figured out that a hard two minute limit is the solution. It’s already been solved. Anybody who thinks forty minutes of idle chatter is considerate at all to other people is fucking retarded. Meet and greets have time limits for this very fucking situation and no one complains.
>>154813311>and basically knows how to behave in publicHe doesn't, he's always crying about having meltdowns and panic attacks in public all the time on his social media accounts.
>>154815989If pros want to have long in-person conversations with their fans I say let 'em as long as they're accommodating the people who just want to get a signature and go. As OP mentioned, Dorkin said he hates this rushed convention efficiency.
>>154816082>Dorkin said he hates this rushed convention efficiencyIt's a nice sentiment, but realistically, he can't give every autist who comes up to him 40 fucking minutes.There's only so much time allowed, that those in the back are going to be rushed or feel pressured to hurry because the shop is closing in 10 minutes.
Imagine being 60 and getting upset at a /co/ thread.
>>154817513me in 30 years
>>154816082Why are people who constantly talk about their panic attacks always assholes? It’s not the panic attacks but the constant mentioning of it that I’m talking about.
>>154817513Holy fucking shit, it really WAS him arguing with OP about how he didn’t ACTUALLY make a girl cry
>>154817535Meant for >>154816082
>>154817553Should be >>154816028
>>154817544lol so he's the faggot earlier in the thread defending himself. Hi Evan
>yell at someone in public and make her cry>post about her on your Instagram so your orbiters can say how rude she was and give you asspats for being nice to everyone else>someone who was there gives their perspective and calls you the dick “What the fuck!! That’s horseshit lies!!! Everyone hates me!!”
>>154817595I mean, it was kind of obvious. These people generally aren’t as smart as they think they are.
>>154817544man :/ dude really has no self awareness. i feel sorry for people like this. now you all will go in a dumb ping and pong game with the old guy. ragebaiter and ragebaiting.
>>154817614Lies. BTW by his own admission, it was 90 degrees in the hall. >>154814463
>>154817614Evan brah! Making girls cry brah!
>>154817544I don’t understand his reasoning. She complained about something different so it was justified? He didn’t yell at her, he just called the promoter over to yell at her? What difference do either of those things make?
>>154794890Does Evan Dorkin have a problem with women or something?
>>154817806I wouldn't put it past OP to exaggerate what happened or even make up a story based on what he said on Instagram. It's all hearsay.
>>154818007I guess I’m inclined to believe it because he gave a description of a woman even though Dorkin was totally gender neutral on his Instagram. If OP posts her Instagram account and someone asks her about it I’m sure we could get a better idea.
I predict the next part of this story is Evan finding her Instagram, talking with her, and trying to get her to say none of this was a big deal.
>>154818077>messaging another young womanMayhap. The pattern continues. Even here, he only replied to a user with a feminine username.>>154817544>>154817614
>>154817641>90 degrees in a room full of comic nerdsimagine the smell.
>>154817544Hi Dorkin!
>>154818125Dude loves talking to teenage girls online I guess
>>154817544>>154817614>>154818382OP you made it, congrats
>>154794890>dude became a feminist white knight faggothow long until we find out he's been grooming minors or some shit
>>154817641did they at least wear deodorant
>>154819542probably not. A lot of nerdy girls just douse themselves in perfume instead of showering or using deodorant
>>154818568Or worse.
>>154819601Even the best deodorant can’t do a thing to sustained 100 degree heat. Smells like whitefish baking in a Mazda
Wait.....OP mentioned getting her Instagram right?Why not ask her for her side of the story?
>>154820586She's an animator, according to OP. I can't imagine an aspiring creative wants to poke the hornet's nest by going against a D-list celebrity and his fans, especially considering he already made her cry.
>>154805672Why is a minor dropping $60 on cassettes?
>>154820872Oldschool stuff like that is getting popular with alphas and younger zoomers
>>154820586Here’s her side of the story
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>>154820898>>154820909Holy shit he really is like his characters
>>154820928He posted a video about the situation on Instagram saying everyone is lying about him yelling.
>>154821016Someone needs to take gramp's phone away.
>>154820898Proof it's actually her?
>>154821043What kind of proof do you want?
>>154821027He also made a video saying he’s NOT flirting with teen girls, just being friendly. Getting ahead of the accusations I see
>>154821053Nevermind
>>154794890OP> She bites the bullet and no joke Dorkin YELLS at her not to rush him... She apologized but he kept going, he hates conventions because they always try to herd people along>>154795348Dorkin>except the one person who lost their patience and came over and started complaining that I was taking too long with everyone and I need to speed things up.... But I'm not an In-N-Out franchise>>154817544Dorkin>No one yelled at anyone... I got Evan Reed the show promoter to talk to her. I told her I didn't have anything to do with the line regarding tables being blocked>>154820898Fan>said... there's a lot of people getting restless... starting to block booths>>154820909Fan>He did yell... the promoter came to ask why he (Dorkin) was upsetPutting all of these stories together and Dorkin does sound like an asshole. Maybe some sides are exagerating, but I find it telling that OP mentions Dorkin not wanting to herd people along, and then Dorkin corroborates with "I'm not an IN-N-Out Franchise". Sort of sounds like OP and the girl are telling the truth and Dorkin doesn't realize how much of an ass he was.
>>154820898>Can barely make her out to be a redheadAw shit
>>154821115She kinda bad tho...is that Faust??This is a memetic reference, for anyone confusing it for an actual question
So Dorkin was just being an asshole. Why can’t people who do this just say they were having a bad day? That would save them a lot of trouble. Self-reflection seems to be kryptonite to some of these people because it’s never THEIR fault.
>>154821386>self-reflectioneveryone just thinks you're a pushover
>>154821386because their either have large egos or are hiding even worse behavior
>>154796786>>154807438In fairness, most cartoonists and their fans are autists to some degree regardless of sex. It depends on the story, context, and how it impacts what they see vs. what’s reality and how they go about their daily business, especially if they’re the kind of weirdoes who don’t have an explanation for stranger/darker fascinations besides it “being porn to them”. It’s a catch-22.
>>154821392I don’t think the only options are pushover or asshole. You can be assertive without berating people who only wanted you to sign something.
>>154821407I know you don't think that way, that's what I'm telling you. That's how most people think.
>>154821407For example: “Hey guys, thanks to everyone for coming out. Sorry to the person I snapped at, it wasn’t anything you did, I was just stressed out and having a bad day. But that’s no excuse so I’d like to apologize.”And you’re done. See how easy that was? It would’ve been forgotten about within 48 hours. And you don’t have to make posts and a video trying to double-down and make people think you’re a victim. None of this shit is hard, all you have to do is consider the other people’s feelings and not just your own.
I don't think anyone in this thread realizes how rare it is for any celeb guest to be willing to talk to his fans beyond a 60 second interlude.
>>154821455I don’t know, I think fans like a creator more when they apologize for something. It shows they don’t think they’re above reproach, which is a likeable quality. If some directly insults you or people you care about, by all means, tell how you feel, but in no way do I think this fan was doing anything close to that. This was an avoidable situation on Dorkin’s part and even after it happened he could’ve easily cleaned it up instead of attacking someone who doesn’t have the following he does. I hope this young woman doesn’t lose any future work because of him.
>>154821515I’ve talked to a lot of artists at length about things, then went “Oh shit, there’s a huge line behind me and I’m not the most important guy in the world. Great talking to you!” And left.
>>154821515>celeb What are you on about? Tons of artists talk to their fans regularly, especially at conventions. I talked to a bunch of guys at comic con and when a new person came to their table to buy something I stepped to the side because I’m not a dick.
>>154794890wait, Josh's hair is black in the comic?
>>154794890>>154817544Fuck I forgot to reply to this thread. I hate moralists like him. They think that they're above the others. No, they're still scum. The toxic behavior they had won't go away. But hey at least the reasons why they act like idiots aren't related to racial and sexual issues, and they support feminist movements and everything that is progressive, so they would absolutely never hurt a fly. Never. And if you imply otherwise then you're a lying jerk trying to attack him. Remember to don't base your opinions about others on surface level crap like that. I'm still not sure if Gaiman is an actual rape machine because the narrative keeps changing, but you can definitely feel something there. Hey Dorkin I like your comics. Including Eltingville. You have many fans. But that doesn't gives you the right to behave like shit. And drop the pathethic nerd remorse. >>154820898ffs>brother, not boyfriend>whole group in front was complaining>even the vendors were annoyed >she tried to be gentle>he actually yelled>the promoter was ashamed This is probably worse than what OP originally wrote
>>154821531Since she didn’t give him her name there’s a low chance of that happening, not to mention I doubt he has much pull in the animation industry. That being said, none of you faggots DM her so I can be the only one offering condolences and a shoulder to cry on.
>>154821531Great, now I’m worried about losing industry jobs seeing as people DID mention my username and I said he was miserable but to be fair… I like Dorkin as an artist, I just think he has kind of an abrasive personality which when I was a Patreon supporter I just thought was a schtick I didn’t find funny and that’s all
>>154822237I promise he doesn’t have that kind of power even within the comics industry. And even if he did, he’s so miserable anybody he works with can immediately tell he’s probably the instigator in whatever situation. Nice digits btw
>"I'm not like these other nerds! I have learned from my past misdeeds!">is exactly like these other nerdspoetry
>>154796022See Kyle Carrozza, who claimed to be a good hecking wholesome guy who'd be totally against dirty terrible toon porn only to like the real deal.
>>154805804i miss those types of guys, honestly.
>>154823398I could only think about Kyle while I was reading the thread lol
>>154823193every time
