How does he move like that in that armor
>>154796903Mikkibros I don't feel too good
>>154796903Ssaelbros... We're about to be exposed again...
>>154796903What a high level exchange
>>154796903That looks unhealthy.
>>154796960>>154797049Its OK the plat will die of a heart attack that was foreshadowed last page.
>>154797161Due to the heavy inbreeding by the coppers, plats end up with a 15 year lifespan, respiratory issues, schizofrenia and so attuned to the khert they can nuke half a continent with a sneeze
>>154797161Hm. Do Dammakhert stings go all the way up to "Death Note?"
>>154796903Lilleord is going to be saved by that plat dying of overexertion. If he survives this fight it looks like death will come soon. Luv the crowd's reactions. Thackeray being so excited and hopeful at finally seeing a competent and knowing what likely is going to happen makes me sad.
>>154797544>LilleordHe's asleep back in the barracks.
Lilleord must have been training hard.
>>154797586Blind anon... Lilleord is currently fighting for the honor of the Temple of Song. Who else among the lads can properly scry the lines like that?
>>154797586What are you talking about? He's right there in the ring, prancing about like he always does. Good old Prancin' Lilleord.
>>154797708Yeah, how could anyone mistake Lilleord?
>a good wright can just dodge or catch anything you castno wonder Duane just kicked Quigs in the face the second time
>>154798039Quigley still bitches about not being able to hear spells, so line scrying must not be the be-all-end-all of countering the opponent's spells.
>>154798118Quigley was the type to take whatever shortcuts he could, he'd be all over the lip reading thing too
>>154797795what a handsome talented lad, that Lilleord
>>154796903Well Miki, it was a good run. Good luck next incarnation.
>>154796903Wonder if Argenti Sr. suspects the truth or just suspects shenanigans. Especially if Lemuel is still buddies with him I figure he'd be aware of the Golden Delight and her proclivities toward pymary and chaos. And also toward his son.
>>154797795Guys I think there's something wrong with Lilleord. I think he lost some weight. Must be why he's improved with that fancy footwork.
>>154798651That's not something wrong, that just means he's improving! That's our Lilleord, never one to rest on his laurel(s).
What a nice Grand pa
>>154798118Just in general it's a big disadvantage when fighting a wright at close range, Plat or no. And iirc Quigley was more reliant on pymarics than proper spellery, whereas Duane as always is such a turbo nerd you'd be pressed to catch him for a lack of options.
>>154799006>all that detail on the feetASHLEY
>>154796903it's impressive how lille is able to do all that with a punctured rib and a broken spleen
>>154799021Quigley still was a tougher fight for Duane than Goodheim would have been, even though Quigley or any regular plat couldn't bruteforce Khert like that.
Website comment:>NO!! Lilleord!>The Unsounded volumes 3&4 crowdfund is already 500% funded just in the first week! The secret stretch goals get announced soon, stay tuned!CHECK OUT THE KICKSTARTER HERE! [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/unsounded-book-3-and-4]>Volume 3 collects newly edited and remastered chapters 10 through 12, and Volume 4 collects chapters 13 through 15, getting us all the way through the Litriya pageant and the freeing of Minnow’s waterwomen pals. Whether you have the original 3 indie prints or the first two Iron Circus prints, these new volumes are the ones you want to pick up to continue your collection with no break :)>~AshleyPatreon comment:>Yeah, one can capture a khert-line or three (in fact every spell is using a "captured" line to execute its manipulation) but the idea of capturing/occupying every line in the vicinity is crazy, it should shoot Mogul through the roof and provoke a retaliation. So this guy's definitely an altered freakboy.>Careful, Lilleord!
>>154796903I've been thinking, does DNA even exist in the setting or is everyone basically a construct because of the nature of the setting, like yeah selective breeding and all that but can they really create all those castes without knowing about DNA?
>>154799309People bred horses and plants and dogs before they ever learned about DNA anon. My best guest for the dammakhert is it takes whatever your natural phenotypic expression would be and basically uses that like a random number generator within a more limited and exceptional range of caste traits for whatever caste you end up in.
>>154796960She's got it. The mere fact that he's singing her praises means she'll win and then be discovered and shamed for maximum embarrassment on all sides.
>>154799363>Miki is going to be taken by Rousseau as breeding stock for plat rapehellEven fucking Tree would have been better than this.
>>154799309>>154799361Castes only determine your lifespan and, inversely, baseline affinity towards the Khert. Plats' health issues and Coppers' tumorous growths are a side effect of effecting the human lifespan to such a massive extreme. I think Plats' organs basically rot from the inside, hence their dying at 30 as well as the chronic issues they suffer from.
>>154799420That just obviously isn’t true because two Crescians who have a kid in Alderode will have an Aldish baby. It very definitely also affects expression of “normal” traits.
>>154799361I know about that but straight up modifying it like that is an insane achievement if DNA exists, like manipulating lifespan with such a drastic difference between plats and coppers. My idea is that maybe it doesn't exist, the same way a virtual entity isn't actually composed of atoms, there are people but there wouldn't be anything molecular composing them, and that makes it a lot more easy to modify people compared to having to change DNA to cause the desired caste changes, unless the dammakhert is far more advanced than initially believed. Even the idea of changing flesh relies on recognizing a huge biological collection of different materials (and types of flesh) as "one thing" (with the exception of "change everything" spell commands) which doesn't sound feasible in a setting of atoms, or changing individuals which requires an arbitrary distinction between an individual and their surroundings
>>154799420The plat death by old age also has visible effects like skin turning translucent and cracking and bleeding, and ears and nose falliing off.Coppers are more mysterious. >The great Copper complexes in the capital city have wings reserved solely for those of the most advanced age, where even their own family members do not care to venture. Many rumours and stories circulate about what a khert-killed Copper looks like - that is, a Copper who actually reaches that theoretical maximum age of longevity - but there are not a lot of hard facts to be known!
>>154799468>compared to having to change DNA to cause the desired caste changesI don't think it does, the way ash has talked about the khert in the past it's like there's a fundamental reality that works on real understandable physical rules and then the khert is overlaid on top and basically does whatever it wants.IIRC she's also said that when alds have children outside the dammakhert the result is kids that look like whatever ethnic group their family line descended from pre-dammakhert, which wouldn't happen if the caste system was actually fucking with their DNA or whatever they have as an equivalent.
>>154796903Argenti isn't fooled for a minute. He probably knows exactly who it is too.
>>154799369Does Soud + Plat give you more plats or wouldn't that just make Bronzes? I remember that "normal" Aldish interbreeding tends towards the caste between the two parents but I forget how Gold/foreigners (which the Soud basically are) fit in
>>154799934All other castes breed true with Soud, while Soud only come from Soud x Soud. Foreigners work differently, they produce a random caste baby if they're impregnated in the Dammakhert, no matter who the father is.
>>154799221I'll give you more money when I get confirmation that my order got shipped, Cope
>>154799309iirc DNA and germs exist but only Inak knew about it.
>>154799309I mean, kasslynians still evolved to get where they are. The dammakhert might put its thumb on the scale for it but biology still plays a factor hence the selective breeding.
>>154800867You say that, but it could also just be a few dozen expert wrights moving traits between plats over days
>>154800970How? Wrights can't swap aspects like that permanently unless it's a pymaric since it would cause intense khert agitation if not corrected plus that kind of stuff is a bit too complex to be messed around with through aspect manipulation.
>>154799468>insane achievement if DNA exists, like manipulating lifespanHumans turned wolves into chihuahuas without knowing about DNA.
>>154800759DNA, germs, secrets only the Inak knew.
If I could code I would make an Ald Breeding Simulator game where you could RP being an evil Copper geneticist.
>>154796903What would happen if you took a Goodwin corpse, scooped out the brain and plugged Duane’s phylactery into it?
>>154796903It’s an interesting fact of the setting that nobody seems to wear genuine heavy armor outside of what, Kima Bell I think? The Peaceguard wear a breastplate, the Ssaelit Lions wear helmets and stiffened leather armor, the Gefendur here seem to be mostly a more elaborate version of the same. I assume Ashley just doesn’t like drawing knights, or all the metal goes to constructs.
>>154798143It helps that he was never a properly trained wright. He was just a country bumpkin who happened to have a lot of raw power as a plat. Duane on the other hand had proper training and experience as both a war vet and a tacit caster.
>>154799023Never beating the allegations
>>154801161Maybe heavy armor just makes you a target for wrights. A lot of material to work with.
Huh. I haven't been around. Is Sette dead?
>>154801231Nah, we're just switching between two plotlines
>>154801130Wouldn't work because he's the wrong size.
>>154801020You wouldn't need to swap them permanently, theoretically you'd just need it for the guy when generating altered sperm, and up until first cell division in the egg. They may not know those events in particular, but they'd know sex makes babies and they gotta go back and forward from that trigger.
>>154801161The vits guards had very heavy armor.
>>154801231All of our main characters besides Jivi have died.
>>154801175I think Quigley was a pretty good wright personally.
>>154801231It's an aldish webcomic now, sorry.
>>154801668Somewhere: Toma Sava, rebuilding his home in a series of sweaty action shots, getting used to his new arm, fighting off Creasen mountain peasants trying to ruin his budding relationship with Elsa.There's a Hallmark Holiday movie spooling up on the side.
>>154801161Stiffened leather IS heavy armour. Chain mail and metal plate are knight shit, you buy that stuff yourself or you don't get it.
>>154801772I legit hope he never shows up in Red Coast. Dude earned his happy ending, let him have it
>>154801161Heavy armor probably matters less in a world where you can add pymarics that offer your tremendous resilience to your armor and body. Though in resource-poor Alderode, heavy armor is probably more beneficial than pymarically rich Cresce.>>154801231Get caught up. Wherever you left off it's always worth it. There's also a Kickstarter running, >>154799221, for volumes 3+4 of the new print, which would be equivalent to volume 4+ of the indie release Ashley did some years ago. So it's all new material.>>154801382I don't think this is accurate. In our world, and presumably Kasslyne as well, mutations in body cells do not pass on. Only mutations in sex cells. If you change aspects in another person, you could at best be expected to change their body cells, because you are changing how their traits are expressed. I would assume this means it would require a different word to cast upon, similar to how hair, muscle, skin, and bone all do. And since it would have no practical effect, and they do not know anything of cells, it is probably not a word they know at all. Additionally, once the guy cums his sperm cells are not a part of him, and therefore should be reverted immediately before reaching his partner.That said, I don't think you're changing the body cells either when casting upon someone. I think if you lifted a biologist from our world to run some tests on a person being cast upon, you would find the body cells are still identical. It's just the traits from those cells are being briefly suppressed by khert shenanigans: the khert (and pymary) is an arbitrary, temporary layer suppressing certain aspects of reality, but not rewriting them, not even briefly. I don't think it could work like so.
>>154801945Hopefully no one ever tells him he turned Duane over to be tortured and murdered and Jivi to be deported into Rachane's slave camps. I think he's had enough demoralization for one lifespan.
>>154802100>Willoughby, there's no way you can 'make your own copper' by forcing a woman full of copper aspect for a month. >No, not even if you saturate the balls as well>This is madness, Willoughby.
>>154801772Peaceguard member Elka travels to meet with her former captain Emil, who is now raising his daughter in the crescian countryside. Will they finally get to enjoy a normal, peaceful Tirna's day ?>>154802289I think he knows exactly what he has done : his duty as a crescian. Duane would have done the same and delivered him to the Pits
>>154802289I think he's okay with the former. He trusts the Queen's judgement on Duane and knows she needs to know what's going on. He told her everything he knew about the guy and put in a good word, but what happens from there is beyond him. The latter would have him on the first hound back ready to kick ass and save Jivi. I also think the queen herself would intervene if she knew, but has trusted her subordinates to handle them without following the specifics too closely.
>>154801382Theoretically, maybe, but no one in Kassylne in really aware of the basic concept of cellular life or even basic germ theory and even if they did they'd still be shit out of luck because then they'd have to discover the word for it in old tainish in order to cast primary on it.
>>154798704>>154798196Well I think he's a chicken.
>>154801161Pymary essentially makes heavy armor obsolete in the same way guns. Just like with guns, people still wear it since martial warfare is still a thing but heavy plate just expensive and slows you down so it's been phased out in favor of more minimal protection to keep soldiers relatively agile.
>>154802382>I think he's okay with the formerHis kid and his queen are literally only alive because of Duane Adelier. HE is only alive because of Duane Adelier. I hope he wouldn't be okay with what Nora is doing.
They should have let Toma adopt Jivi instead of deporting him.
>>154802721I think Toma'd be leaning a lot on Elka's opinion that Duane is a very complicated construct and generally impossible. Its crazy wright bullshit. Sure Duane seems realish, but Toma's just not sure. I think using his words to win over Elka probably moved the needle more, but the queen never got the followup report there.
>>154802369>Duane would have done the same and delivered him to the PitsAbsolutely, but he wouldn't be happy about it, and he wouldn't want to know the details. Though honestly, I have my doubts. Duane's own judgment of himself agrees with you, but he chose Will over Roger, and he chose helping Cresce over his own blood-mad countrymen in Morstorben. He can't stomach treating his Plats the way the state says he has to. He can't stomach his own countrymen advocating for atrocity against an existential enemy. He's still apparently ashamed he let Sarthos take the fall for him and wished he'd told the truth and left to escort her out of the country, instead.Duane usually seems to be teetering on the brink of either a nationalist/socially acceptable choice that disgusts him or a refusal that lines up with his actual gut, and he rarely seems to truly know his decision before it's made.
>>154802722Did Toma even offer?
>>154802811I think he probably figured that Jivi would be treated well instead of being sent to Rachane. Did he even know that Jivi was technically not a citizen?
>>154802721Duane the man is a good person. But the reality is from the perspective of Cresce, he's a WMD made by Alderode. He's a liability. His role in the peaceguard is to keep the queen aware of these liabilities. He can vouch for the man, but Duane must be studied and understood by other experts, and only Maha can decide that Duane is not a threat. Toma must put aside his care for Duane the man in order to keep his homeland safe.>>154802722I doubt Toma was made aware of this situation at all.>>154802795I think a complicating factor here is that Toma is just a man. A Crescian soldier and hero, but still just a man. Duane is a never before seen casting and highly autonomous plod, professing to be a real boy, and whether he is or not this has strong implications for the future of warfare between the two countries. He must, absolutely must, be understood from any reasonable perspective of Crescian national security.
>>154802811>>154802850Toma's a believer in the state and the Queen owed him one. He probably believed creasean propaganda that Jivi would be treated well. Don't forget that Crease has a position for everyone based on what they could do, so Jivi's best case scenario would have had him tested and sent somewhere based on his abilities. Since Jivis abilities are all from his wasted time as a bumpkin, pirate, and slave, he'd get shit jobs. His best outcome would have been folding into the local merchant marine, and I think Jivi'd end up miserable there.
>>154801130Nothing good.
>>154802790>but the queen never got the followup report there.I believe Toma gave a detailed account of everything that happened regarding Duane directly to the queen. They were in close correspondence even when he was in the field, I don't see why he wouldn't fill her in on the most important last leg of it all. Including passing on his knowledge, Elka's, and also their (differing) reads on the situation. We don't get to see it, but I assume we will see the payoff of it eventually.
>>154799006OK so he totally fucks them
>>154803159Considerin what Ashley said about it, his dick is probably too big to do that without injuring them
>>154803101Elka and Toma both got to be fully debriefed after the clusterfuck at Morstorben.
>>154802850Jivi is technically a citizen. He's just not documented as one. >>154803073I think we're Jivi in the breath system he would be treated well. He was - all the kids were - treated well as it can seem until they hit a wall in trying to find a place for Jivi. At which point they decided to report him into slavery. Which is terrible, of course, but I don't think Toma's trust was misplaced until then.>Since Jivis abilities are all from his wasted time as a bumpkin, pirate, and slave, he'd get shit jobs.I think you'd be surprised. He has quite a lot of transferrable and in demand skills he's developed from those things. He also seems to be a quick learner and quite smart. The real question would be how well he would be able to adapt to an assigned job if they gave him one. And I think with that, he would do poorly. Additionally, Cresce is one of the only countries with compulsory education. I'm not sure when it ends, but he might still have an opportunity to finish school and show them what he's capable of.
>>154803179As if that would stop him
>>154803179There's probably a plat line bred for that exact thing.
>>154803179Big hands big dick ? I bet that lanky pedo can't get it up.
>>154803245Prostitution is a common line of work for plats in the first place.
>>154803208>He has quite a lot of transferrable and in demand skillsYou'd think a kid who's stared down man made horrors beyond human comprehension and fought side by side with two legends and came out only loosing an ear and mild PTSD would make for a good soldier. Hell any other book and they'd probably be grooming him to be Captain Crease 2.0 now that Emil retired
>>154803329Were he in the system I think that's exactly what they would be trying to do. Finish his education, get him into the military academy, get him serving Cresce. Maybe try to put him on a ship like >>154803073 says. He has a lot of marine experience that could be put to use. But even though he's good in an emergency, I think he would have trouble operating in a regular 9-5. Dissatisfaction would creep in at the small, day to day injustices, and if he couldn't fix them from the inside, he would want to find a better place where he can help people.
>>154799006Big yaoi hands
>>154803329Crescians hate foreigners and believe the correct number of immigrants is "zero."
>>154803329>>154803395Crease may look to get him integrated into the navy based on aptitude and the Queens favor reflecting off of Toma, but the horrors of Creasean bureaucracy and someone tutting and tapping the 'Relations: Flask, Regina' on his file would end up hurting him.
>Coppers raising plats>Jets raising SilversCoincidence? I think not.
>>154796903Why does the mayfly look so hot
The way Alderode treats plats is unironically more retarded than how it treats its women. Their Khert attunement and especially their ability to calm the Khert, is a unique and powerful asset, that no other nation possesses, yet apparently the coppers in charge see no issue wasting their capabilities, making them chairs or prostitutes. If I ran Alderode, I would set up a massive plat breeding program, all the childsoldiers that survived the front would be set up with multiple wives and spend the remainder of their short lives siring the next generation of soldiers swelling armies, entire regiments of pale spellwrights marching against Cresce, Khert agitation no longer a concern with so many plats calming her. Alderode unironically should have conquered Cresce centuries ago, personally I blame the coppers for this.
You just got hit by Truck-kun, and are going to end up in Alderode. The khert will be kind and allow you to pick your caste, though.
>>154803470Bronze boys are the middle sibling caste, once and again forgotten.
>>154803208>>154803329Jivi would be an incredible Peaceguard with the right investment, but it's clear the Crescians in charge of looking after the kids found them so much bother they just started trying to offload them.But we're gonna meet Regina, so we're going to see Jivi tortured and ground down by the horrors of his past in TRC. And we don't know what he'll be like at the end of that.
>>154800759>tfw these stupid spiderpaws think germs are ghosts
>>154803534I think the plats are literally the most numerous or second most numerous caste anon. They have enough for legions of child soldier pymaric parrots AND for making them chairs.
>>154801384They did actually, I had forgotten. They looked like full-on chaos knights.
>>154803583It's pretty funny that they completely danced around germ theory because they solve everything with magic. While Inaks had to use science because no ports.
>>154803539I'd probably be a bronzechad. Or a silver. The rest can suck it.
>big lecture about the importance of scyring>nobody picked up on Miki's glamour
>>154803179>his dick is probably too big to do that without injuring themdo you know the shit ash writes for *fun*
>>154803469Regina is a highly successful and respected privateer in the Queen's employ. I think that wouldn't hurt his chances. But he would hate any and all comparisons to her and that could cause him to self-sabotage.>>154803591This, plus the fact that plats can reduce agitation but most plats do not reduce it to the extent Goodwin does. That's a personal project from careful pedigree breeding. Even with an army of just plats, you would not see nearly the same effect.
>>154803591I checked the Q&A again, and you're right, they're the second most numerous caste after bronze. I'd thought they'd be one of the rarer ones because we've seen so few, you'd assume we'd see more white hair in the crowd, maybe they're just not in Durlyne.
>>154803660I suspect Goodwin knows his opponent is glamouring himself, but not why and has no reason to expect that the glamour is hiding a female, so thus far it has held. His compatriots knows he's injured, so it could be to look more ferocious than he is currently feeling or it could be to project his voice better when insulting Goodwin. Whatever the case, knowing there's a glamour has not yet caused it to break. But certainly, it will soon.
>>154803539Jet seems like the sweet spot. You are an upper caste with a good amount of life ahead of you and some pymaric potential.
>>154803709They live in plat-only ghers because they die so young they have to raise their children communally. They're also majority gefendur, and Durlyne, the city not the state, is a majority ssaelit region.
>>154803718Agreed. Jet or soud.
>>154803675>the fact that plats can reduce agitation but most plats do not reduce it to the extent Goodwin does. That's a personal project from careful pedigree breeding.I want to believe Goodwin is currently just 12 or 13 or some shit. No way he's living past 20.
Quigley believed that the presence of a thousand plats might be enough to put out a khert fire, so armies of plat wrights should be viable.
>>154803902>>154803539The short life sucks, but having such an intimate relationship with the khert is quite tempting.
>>154803902Armies of untrained plat children versus armies of trained plat men are pretty different beasts though. Most plats are not trained to nearly the same extent as Quigley, and Duane's boys who were only just beginning to learn the ropes were absolutely exceptional by child soldier standards because he taught them a few simple things. I would think enough plat children casting haphazardly in battle would agitate the khert more than subdue it. There's probably a reason only so many plat squads are sent in at once.
>>154803539>best spellwrigthts in the world>beautiful>living off government neetbux>living in Kasslyne sucks anyway, so the short lifespan might be plusPlatinum all the way
>>154803902>armies of plat wrights should be viable.Their ghers are in specific places around Alderode. Are you sure that moving that population wouldn't hinder Dhammakhert fuckery?
What are ghers even like?
>>154804338Ethnicity-specific busybody HOAs that tell you who you can marry, what job you can do, where to live, and if you push back on any of what they say will look for ways to get petty revenge on your family. But they offer social support if you fall on hard times, help you raise and educate your kids, and help provide stability for your widow and children when you pass on.
>>154804390A true small midwestern town hellscape.
>>154804004Just strap a bunch of plat babies to the back of every trained adult plat. Problem solved.
>>154804432Isn't calming khert lines a deliberate thing you have to be trained to do? Just that plats are better at it than anyone else, and jets and copper can't do it at all.
>>154802721I think Ashley said Toma gave his report as objectively as possible, including his better moments. But even though we, the audience, know Duane is a cool guy, he was pretty lost in the sauce for a while by the end there. Toma witnessed him slice off a Peaceguard's arm, interfere with Litriya shrine's defenses, and iirc aide the Aldish soldiers immediately afterwards. Yes he helped with the Silver beast, but that was a very dangerous threat that defied normal boundaries and borders, and could also be argued as an Aldish ploy to stop a plan instigated by Bell, who traitor or not was still a Crescian. All this while ranting and raving every form of heresy against the Gefendur faith and openly calling for their queen's death.This is before getting into the fact that to an outside observer he appears to be some manner of highly advanced plod equipped with an artificial personality, and either loaded with dozens of dangerous pymarics or, more alarmingly, capable of very advanced pymary through yet unknown methods.
>>154804432>>154804538If Nora was Aldish she could he taking her experience generating first water via waterwomen and applying it to pumping plat babies full of agitated khert lines. Her skills and vision are wasted in Cresce.
>>154803159I can't believe I'm about to say this in an Unsounded thread, but I DON'T believe that this man is a child lover!
>>154803179>>154803245>Somewhere out there is a Copper who spent 300 years breeding a line of Plat twinks with feminine penises and highly elastic rectums to handle Copper dongs
>>154804565>Toma witnessed him slice off a Peaceguard's armHe deserved it
>>154804783Ssaelit brethren, we must nominate said Copper as a Saint regardless of him being Ssaelit and Gefendur.
>>154804858Just because someone is an asshole doesn't mean they're suddenly not your comrade. Trusting someone to watch your back in combat is a big thing.Besides, bullying a Sharte brat pales in comparison to some of the other shit we've seen. Remember Ricker?
>>154804538Coppers make khert more agitated.
>>154804538Quigs makes it sound like it's something his soul just does.
>>154804432
>>154803767Nah, wouldn't be a Soud. They are second class citizens forced into ghettos. MAYBE you get born a tacit caster, but if not, your life isn't exactly roses.
>>154805465Copper Bondrewd would have such a fucking field day in Alderode.
>>154804610>didn't read instructions>created a first water generator by pouring water through a waterwoman>created a first water degenerator by pouring water through a plat baby>what do you mean it doesn't do anything to water, its doing a lot to water
>>154803902I think he's speaking mostly metaphorically, not that it's a reasonable solution that would really be possible. Yes, Plats can help clean up a khert fire, but the point he's making here is that it's such a fucked, huge khert fire, totally beyond the normal problem that anyone is used to.
>>154804610People give her shit but she gets off her ass and answers the questions we're all asking. Like why NOT baby armorShe'd doing cool Black Tongue stuff but didnt have to put on a collar to do it
>>154807451I give her shit because she's an uncharismatic sociopath that not even red eels can stand, but I've recognized that she has real talent, motivation, and aptitude for science in spite of her bias.
>>154807451I don't think plat baby armor is efficient, you need to strap them to a hound drawn cart and bring them where you're going, have a teenage plat or pymarics shoving them full of agitation, and then out pops fresh khert lines for your wrights to cast.>>154807658This is true. But she would go far in Alderode, if she were born a man. So many fun experiments to be had.
>>154799468An Agib was probably involved in the development of the Dammakhert so it makes sense that Ssael or whoever was responsible was given the Old Tainish word for "telomere" or something. Also old Coppers start looking suspiciously like Sessine (tall and skinny, dark red skin).But the Dammakhert is clearly pretty janky, so I would assume that its creators were working off limited information. Hence the Coppers and the amount of problems they start to experience as they age. Cancer is apparently a huge killer of Coppers, whereas actually dying from cancer is pretty rare in elephants and whales irl. The Dammakhert's designer probably tried to accomplish longevity by tweaking a few things he knew were related to it (ie. making cells more resilient and extending telomeres) but caste biology clearly begins to break down when exposed to the million other genetic and epigenetic factors related to longevity.
>>154803583I think Knock is just retarded anon
>>154804088The Khert's finger curls and you are born as a 12 ft Copper's living cockring.>>154803539400 years as a red man would be fun but there's not telling if you will be born one of the unlucky ones who age really badly.
>>1548038048 billion genies was so good
>But the Dammakhert is clearly pretty jankyOnly in some areas, Cresce was unable to do anything against it until Roger's wandered in with some backdoor code embedded into his soul. Also it seems that the Dammahkhert makes Cresce only a minor threat (until spellproof ogres) despite potentially being a superior military power. I wonder what fucked up things the Dammahkhert can do to non-Alds.
>>154808760>>154808841Pardon me.
>>154808760I've always figured there's a single variable controlling what the castes are, trading off khert affinity with lifespan. Why would the Dammakhert designer(s) not make a caste of immortal super-wizards if they could, as opposed to this tradeoff being so ironclad it shows up as a direct anticorrelation between pymaric power and lifespan within the Bronzes?(I wonder if Goodwin could even reach 25?)I had thought this was related to how the khert collected memories - turn up how much the khert loves you, and it will listen to you more at the cost of eating you young, or vice-versa - but the memory collection being not a natural function of the khert throws a wrench in that idea.
>>154809954>Why would the Dammakhert designer(s) not make a caste of immortal super-wizardsI think the most likely answer is that they were altruists who envisioned some sort of designed society, with a bunch of idealistic flowing nonsense about how each caste would serve Alderode according to their strengths. You're still probably right about the tradeoff. We've already seen both sides of the immortal super-wizard creation now, you just need the Super Goodwins plugged into Bastion's crazy plod rigs.
>>154809954>>154810078I feel like the Dammakhert is very clearly skewed in favor of the Coppers. At the end of the day, the only thing people want is to live longer, and even the most khert-sensitive Plats would be begging for another day. Just like Erma said, "I've seen the ones filled with centuries and the ones begging for decades." Even if Rortide himself wasn't a Copper, the fact that his family was the first Copper dynasty implies that it isn't that the Coppers were chosen to lead, rather that the preexisting leaders were chosen to become Coppers. Also the Dammakhert being designed in a way that makes it impossible to "go up" and create a Copper through intercaste breeding screams being a deliberate choice to safeguard a privilege meant for a select few.Why Coppers don't actually live forever might be tied to what the designers could do, the implication is that their method of achieving longevity was copying senets (which are a good example of extremely long-lived powerful beings), hence Coppers being quasi-First Materials disconnected from the khert. Copying senets might have just been a bootleg solution which humans aren't really meant for, leading to mutations and a cap at 400.
>>154809954It's possible that the creators of the Dammakhert didn't fully know what they were doing, and did not realize that whatever made their top caste long-lived made them incompatible with pymary and vice versa.
>>154810487Where does the “coppers are copying senet beasts” theory come from?
>>154811703Kinda sounds like anon's "rolling his own" here, as it were. It's not a bad theory, on the face of it, but I feel like we're still missing why pymary and longevity have anything to do with each other. Sure, the Senet Beasts, but they're literally unchanging, whereas the Coppers still very clearly, very visibly change. And why having increased sensitivity does what it does, though given how Plats kind of just decompose from the inside (Silver's may not as much, from what I remember), it might actually be some kind of fantasy radiation poisoning. Certainly sounds like a similar kind of thing, with them suddenly just kind of dying and their organs going to shit. Painfully too, again from what I recall.The reason Senet Beasts are unchanging has to do with them being made of first materials, with their own internal kherts (which is what allows for the use of this material for pymarics). We have no real idea how this practically is done, though one wonders if Vienne's "entirely new function" might be some sort of early step in that direction. Though like the Copper's/dammakhert relationships, it's still not very obvious how. The whole reason her thing works is that it piggybacks off of actual First Materials for the function (since the khert will default to treating it like the last thing it couldn't work with, so it needs a First Material "seed" to produce that behavior initially).
>>154809954I assume the Dammakhert is more of an experiment that's still being secretly supervised from somewhere.My personal headcanon is that the Coppers were supposed to be manual laborers due to their powerful bodies and it was the Golds who were meant to be leaders because they are immune to the Dammakhert and can thus take supervisory roles without being brainwashed of that thing, but because the Coppers lived for so long they accumulated a lot of political power over the years and ended up at the top. Either that or the Golds are the control group to compare the other castes to.
>>154805846You aren't magically enslaved to the state, though.
>>154811887>It's not a bad theory, on the face of itI initially went "u wot m8" but now that I'm thinking about it... maybe they're onto something. Senet Beasts are untouchable by the wider khert because they have their own internal kherts. If Coppers have internal kherts, meaning they can't cast pymary and are very difficult to cast pymary on, then their tumors and weird growth patterns might be a result of their internal khert (or whatever protects it) breaking down so that the wider khert is finally able to "touch" them. And it would conversely explain why plats are so sensitive to the wider khert, because in a way, the wider khert IS their internal khert.
>>154813187I'm pretty sure that if coppers had internal kherts it would be publicly known since that stuff is hard to hide. Also the young normal sized ones would be harder to affect with pymary if that theory was true but we've heard nothing like that.
>>154799922"I'd know those feet anywhere."
>>154814564Ssael probably banned feet you know.
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>>154815439That upside is pretty neat. Though it can also be a downside with a support wright unable to directly cast on you, to say, emergency pull you out of incoming fire.
>>154815439That still sounds different than Senets since khert lines do go around them, Rukh could walz in a khert fire.
>>154815493If Coppers are meant to be like senets, then they're poor imitations and you shouldn't expect them to have the same exact capabilities.
>>154809954This gets weird because it sort of implies just exposure to the khert erodes your natural, non-khert biology.
>>154807174>I think he's speaking mostly metaphoricallyHe more specifically means a thousand of *him* in particular, not just any plats.
>>154814580In my head Ssael is just John Calvin.
>>154815439>copper super soldiers are now also pymary proofRED KEEPS WINNINGBOW DOWN, MEAGRE SLAVES
We need to institute total copper death. They gotta' go.
I hope we get to see more Coppers in battle. Not enough in that one battle on the border.
>>154817013I hope we get to see a copper pop your disgusting skull right out of your face and dunk it like a basketball.
>the keys to reality are now in my hands>but what if instead of inventing a just society I lazily divided society into six arbitrary strata and pretended it was just? and threw in some girl and lion torture just for kicks?>delightfully devilish, sonum
>>154796903>How does he move like that in that armorThe pymary is well and good but I too would like to know where she got the ability to cartwheel one-handed. She was never actually trained to fight. Are there Alderode Girls' Youth gymnastic competitions or something?
>>154818470Her dad is a vliegeng pilot with rocket boots.
>>154818470>Are there Alderode Girls' Youth gymnastic competitions or something?I hope so.
>>154818470She has training from Lem. From a recent ask:>and her time training with vliegengier Lemuel has made her acrobatics strong. Lem is stridently NOT a wright, so he’s gotten very good at avoiding spells and passed his insights on to her. He’s also been very realistic with her limitations and completely avoided weapons training. This leaves her a major weakness of course, but it’s also left her completely free to hyper-focus on her casting and her defense.
>>154818565Sullen Jet girls practicing aerobics on a cold morning…
Stretch goal updated for Unsounded. Add-on for a book of Ashley’s short stories at 150,000. I hope it gets there but not being able to add on until it does might make it difficult.
>>154818713How about some silver cuties ?
>>154818738Fuck. It better reach $150k. I've wanted that forever.
This whole thread is Chinese to me.
>>154820722Llokh ssomun lloMann fhundaet.
>>154820722Well start learning
>>154818565oi oi oitone it down with the child loving
>>154821742Y-you too.>>154823284No.
