Is there a single capeshit character that’s been character assassinated worse than her?
>>154813381her husband
>>154813386/thread
>>154813381kingpin got gangbanged in prison
Mephisto is actively writing her decisions for her since the mid 2000's.You could put Paul and Classic MJ together for a thousand years alone on a deserted earth and nothing would happen. A Clyde is a Clyde and she would grill him relentlessly about his role in killing his planet, being the sole witness and everything. She used to have an extremely high EQ, able to see an imposter or a liar rapidly.But she's not. She's been dead since Joe stole her soul and Slott sat on her. Only a change of staff can resurrect her back to her old glory.
>>154813381I like how J Scott Campbell's art to this very day makes trannies and holes seethe
>>154813381Medusa
>>154813386Peter or Paul?
>>154813381At they didn’t make her gay or a rape victim. It could have honestly been way worse
>>154813386She’s never been married.
>>154813725Spencer caught the spirit of her but then beyond happened. I'm honestly just tired of slow burn resolution, it strings people along and gives the shit heads in charge the ability to talk themselves of of doing it.
>>154813799Oh she was raped, Paul knew about the time dilation and never told her. We know this from the ANV interviews that they just forgot about this tidbit.They wrote Avengers #200, panicked realising what the fuck they had done, and then just have the characters being unnaturally and inhumanly fine about the obscene things they have said, done and have had done to them. They are in open denial of the story they wrote because Lowe doesn't read what gets put out, only the idea he had in his head.Because they are very silly people handling a sensitive subject with shocker gloves. Retcon this entire fucking era.
>>154813381Hank PymWanda
>>154813381>She's RUINED!!!>How so?>S-she's not dating the guy I like!!!!Too much overlap of shippers to ever be taken seriously.
>>154813926Dead Language is an abomination of a story anon.MJ's dated plenty of people other than Peter before and after OMD, only the Wells homunculi gets this reaction because of the context and story being so reprehensible.
>>154813817she was married to spider man for in the 80s all the way up to 2007.
>>154813381Captain America
>>154813880im think from asm 875, then undo OMD.
>>154814117Never happened.
>>154813789>PaulSee >>154814172
>>154813381She-Hulk is up there.She's been a dumb skank for 2 decades straight.
>>154814172>>154814339When I look at the comics they were married. if you are suggesting it was erased, something had to be there for something to be erased. If youo are just going to reply that "it never happened", then you are a Polish Faggot and should KYS.
>>154813725>Mephisto is actively writing her decisions for her since the mid 2000's.If by Mephisto you mean Marvel editorial..then yeah.
>>154813381There is an extremely easy fix
>>154813789yes
>>154813381Meh Lois is much worse since she's just a dragged in plot experiment for Superman gimmicks in plots, makes her feel like a plot device than a co main lead with Clark and Lex.
>>154815429What in the fuck are you blathering about?
>>154815252Paul and Poland never happened
>>154815208I remember when they buffed her up and turned her dumb for no reason. Also, Wanda. Holy shit, you cannot have a story without referencing her going crazy anymore.
>>154815858oh, gotchya. yes I agree!
She makes everything look good.
>>154816583She sure does...
>>154813880>Oh she was raped, Paul knew about the time dilation and never told her. We know this from the ANV interviews that they just forgot about this tidbit.Wait, really?
>>154816772I prefer her as a macabre spider-monster/woman.
>>154816855yes, really.
>>154813381so now not only did Peter sell his marriage to the devil and damn his unborn daughter to oblivion; but he (and everyone else) also allowed Paul Rabin to rape MJ for 4ish years and and then do it some more when they came back. Only venom seemed to stop it.
>>154813386What happened to Paul?!
>>154813886They should be friends more considering
>>154813880>>154817491Genuinely asking, how does the time dilation make it rape?
>>154819567Time dilation makes it stupid.The rape makes it rape.
>>154813381is she ejaculating while staring at spidys ass?
>>154819567Mary Jane thought Peter was dead only because it had been years on her end in that dead world (that Paul made by exploiting his mentally ill father).Paul knew about the time dilation, he knew the mechanics and enough about bending reality to make the gauntlet, and he chose not to ever mention to MJ even the possibility that he is experiencing time differently.There is no confrontation of this, revisiting earlier lies Paul said (or perhaps just inconsistencies because holy shit Lowe is actually in a coma during Wells run), because they realized FUCK we wrote Avengers #200 again. So nobody mentions anything or confronts anyone.It is the most inhuman we have ever seen our characters. MJ gets baby trapped in an unhappy relationship and we never get her inner dialogue because the men in that office weren't interested in her as a character, but as a prop. And Wells saw her as his unreasonable ex-wife.
>>154813381If not worse, then definitely a contender
>>154813381they should have revived gwen
>>154813381Carol Danvers, Jon Kent, Tim Drake, and Bobby Drake are all ruined beyond any redemption
>>154815442Lois
>>154813381I don't understand why marvel forces the dead Cyclops and Phoenix relationship to never end but they ended the beloved Peter-MJ marriage. Why do they do this?
>>154813381Remember when Wally went crazy and killed like 30 people?
>>154819567her consent to the relationship was premised on a false belief about her own life>Peter abandoned me, no, Peter would never abandon me, Peter is dead. no rescue is coming, this world is all there isPaul knew the belief was false. HE KNEW PETER MIGHT BE ALIVE! He knew it was load-bearing for her choice, and he stayed silent precisely because correcting it would cost him the relationship. sex obtained on a material falsified picture of the world isn't fully consensual sex. He was the only adult in a devastated world, she was dependent on him for survival, and he monopolized the one piece of information that governed whether she had a future elsewhere. Manufactured hopelessness producing "voluntary" attachment. They didnt want to make her a permanent survivor and hand Peter a vengence plot.(i would have been fine with it) but Marvel itself has somewhat endorsed this by having an editor describe the relationship as trauma bonding that became unsustainable once the children and the survival environment were removedif you want something more explicit a future writer could have MJ slip in therapy and suggest paul held her down and she experienced tonic immobility. Maybe even something similar to something like the last duel, over and over again. Never excepting what actually happened to her.All of this a "reading" from panels they wrote not anybody else.
>>154822148Good summation anon.And that would make Carol, Felicia and would make MJ now a trifecta all with rape in their backstory. They didn't want MJ raped so they are just in open denial about the story they made and the situation they put characters in.This is what happens when you plot mystery boxes around ticking bombs anons.They will never ever address this arc anon.They will sweep the horrible issues like false children, death of children, entering into relationships based on false premises, power abuse and gaslighting under a big ol' rug. They will treat a multi-year arc as some non-event and try move on, because they don't want to actually confront what they wrote. These are ultimately unserious people dealing with very serious subjects.This is why most Big 2 Comic Books aren't work the paper they are printed on.Bravo Spoffice.
>>154822308>These are ultimately unserious people dealing with very serious subjects.I hate how true this is. And there are so many characters who've gone through the same and it's never addressed or treated as a joke. Fuck these people.
>>154822777Checked and true.Who needs a comics code or puritans? The industry does too good a job dismissing itself as trash.
>>154822308Indeed
