>>154832724
>how white women react irl to nigs trying to hit on them

if Sentinels were just for killing telepaths not even other mutants would have a problem with them

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>>154832724
>not allowed to have your own thoughts around psychics
Fucking muties.

>>154832724
Mutants are all pieces of shit, and the fact that everyone is just supposed to act like they aren't is fucking ridiculous.

>>154832724
Mutants should be eradicated

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>>154832724
Devil's advocate but it's canon that most telepaths in Marvel have to learn how to *not* read the thoughts of everyone around them. Otherwise they constantly hear everyone's stream of consciousness whether they like it or not. Id imagine a teenager having horny thoughts blares out like a neon sign, at that. Still a bitch move on thier part, tho. Guy cant help it if you're attractive, cut him some slack.

I wish I was a telepath. Telepathy is easily the most busted power in media. It can be either surface reading bullshit or you're an unkillable god. X-Man is a great example. That man takes what is just telepathy on paper and turns it into reality warping.

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>>154832775
This

That's a scary thought.
That your own thoughts aren't kept secret.
Imagine how easily that could fuck up your life.

all he would have to do is look at his penis though

>>154832871
>So we turned every non-telepath's brain into a psychic transmitter
>This changes literally nothing for non-telepaths
>Only telepaths can even detect these magical thought emanations
>Except now it's totally not telepaths' fault for snooping where they have no right to
>And non-telepaths are no longer allowed to complain because their brains were "asking for it"
Marvel canon victim blames telepath victims on a universal scale. Always thought that part of Marvel telepath lore was a bit revolting, conceptually.

>>154832888
I would probably just live in random peoples houses.
https://youtu.be/-oq1z10QtOs?is=tly1ikmDKHV9gRcp

>>154832724
Goddamn, kill all mutants

>>154833104
They're clones of Emma Frost, so it tracks

>>154832946
>Pass by a psychic mutant
>Luckily absent-minded and just singing an earworm-song in your head
It's basically you're only chance.

>>154833160
I'm not even just talking about Emma or the Cuckoos, it's worldbuilding that literally only exists to make telepaths look better. Nothing but telepaths ever interfaces with it. Randos can't use or detect it, but apparently it's always on, exposing their thoughts to telepaths at all times whether they like it or not.
DC handles it much more competently - generally over there, if a telepath "hears" something someone didn't say, the telepath was prying.

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>>154832871
>but it's canon that most telepaths in Marvel have to learn how to *not* read the thoughts of everyone around them
So your reasoning to excuse this tresspass is "Telepaths will be telepaths"? Or is it "Did you see what that Human was wearing, they were asking for it"?

>>154833149
Why is Purple Man so hell bent on staying in New York when he could rule some medium sized town in the Midwest?

>>154832724
Jesus would make me their greatest enemy.

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>mutants are bad
>mutates are great

>>154833374
They won't like you thinking about Jesus?

>>154832724
remind me again why the mutant registration act is supposed to be a bad thing, people have a right to know if their co-worker or child's classmate or whatever is some telepathic freak.

>>154833158
we shouldn't hold Glob Herman responsible for what telepaths do
kill all telepaths instead

I genuinely want a scene where there's a sudden yet inevitable betrayal, and someone looks to the telepath and says "Why the fuck didn't you warn us?" And they reply "How inconsiderate do you think I am? I don't hop willy nilly into every mind that crosses my path! Some of them are scary."

>>154833659
Yeah I like the idea of telepaths being able to be negatively effected by the minds they read. Like they read the mind of someone who's dealt with a lot of trauma and they'll get traumatized too. Read the Joker's mind and you just get lost in the chaos (i think that one actually happened).

>>154833149
Any comics with protag using telepathy for evil?

>>154833703
Look at how sociopathic your average telepath ends up as and tell me it's not the norm for them.

>>154834205
holy shit you're retarded beyond belief

>>154832724
Why do they call him handsome but also tell him not to think about how pretty they are?

>>154834277
They were being sarcastic.

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It's funny how all the X-Men's villains are right. Magneto is right that mutants ARE a master race and there's no way they and humans can successfully coexist. Mr. Sinister is right that, the X-Gene has already fucked up the human genome, what's the problem with a little more fucking? Trask, Master Mold, and all the pro-registration figures and politicians over the years are right that mutants are fucking dangerous and it's probably a good idea for the government to keep tabs on them.

>>154832744
Don't get out much do you?

>>154832724
Telepaths are evil

>>154834317
>Magneto is right that mutants ARE a master race
if every mutant how powers like that of Magento that would be true instead most mutants are more like Ugly John

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>>154834317
i remember once someone sharing pages of a villain who had a bunch of hideous, cancerous mutations from radiation and deliberately called out the X-Men's hypocrisy on that kind of thing to their faces

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>>154834648
Literally a tumorous incel who randomly decided to kill all mutants because he couldn't get dates with supermodels.

>>154832871
The problem is Emma is the one teaching boundaries, empathy and the importance of suffering others even when they annoy you to these kids.
Fucking.
Emma.

>>154833659
Well that's the reason Superior supposedly wasn't outted immediately, of course even that doesn't cover the idiot plot.
Also it's never stopped Emma before but whatever Ottowank.

Didn't frost look into a paralysed Spidey's memory once learning his entire history without consent?

>>154834868
To be fair, him describing them as glamorous action movie stars whose clothing “reeks of boastful sexuality” isn’t inaccurate in the slightest, even if he’s basically a supervillain Morlock. For all their understandable molding over how their lives are fucked up and that it’s stupid people should hate them solely for being mutants, they still have each other, they have the bodies of demigods compared to the other 99% of mutants according to all the retcons regarding the mutant population, and usually they have a safe haven to call home. They are genuinely luckier than most writers would like to admit compared to some of the non-mutant freaks that wandering the world, though mostly by comparison.

>>154835289
She did during her Hellfire days, but given the context was that she was trying to save a child from being assassinated by Kingpin and she never shared his identity with anyone, I could imagine that Peter would let it slide.

>>154833384
It sounds silly but yeah
>Born with the power bad
>Get it later in life good

>>154833703
I've always disliked the "crazy people are immune to mind reading/control" thing because if you actually think about it logically a crazy person is inherently more unstable and open to manipulation. Breaking into a crazy person's mind should be like breaking into a run down wooden shack.

>>154835729
it is genuinely not useful to think of the Joker as human, so that one at least tracks.

>>154833160
Ironically, Emma is one of the few telepaths I like because they don't pretend she isn't a bitch and she occasionally gets blown the fuck out unlike holier-than-thou Jean Grey, who could go on national television and read out everyone's credit card information and the writers would still act like she was right to do so.

>>154835809
>Emma is one of the few telepaths I like because they don't pretend she isn't a bitch
anon if they weren't whitewashing her she wouldn't be part of the X-men quit being retarded

>>154835823
Dude, come on. Emma's entire appeal is that she's kind of an egocentric asshole despite her trying to be a better person.

>>154833319
Let's him stay under the radar. Ruling a small town could get him noticed at which point the CIA would just snipe him, if he's lucky with a bullet to the head, if he's unlucky with a tranq dart so they can experiment on and dissect him. Remember the only reason they didn't just do that in the show was that Jessica had a thing about needing him alive (and not being willing to do the plans that would risk bystanders even a little) so she could somehow get him to exonerate that girl he made kill her parents in court.

>>154832744
>>154834417
/pol/ is the metastasizing cancer that is killing 4chan. Just sayin'.

>>154835966
"Killing" implies it hasn't already happened.

>>154832724
This is why mutants should be wiped out.

>>154834336
>>154835966
Nah, you guys are just virtue signalling again. Sure a white bitch might suck off Will Smith or go "muh choco gilf" for Samuel L. Jackson because their famous/rich but be legitimately nerdy/average, they'll treat a black guy like shit under their soles.

>>154833409
Every time someone has a logical and reasonable response to mutants like making a cure, or the registration, Cable time travels and reveals that actually racist took advantage of that shit and used it to genocide mutants.

>>154836045
I like the part where the moderate option is always undermined and dismissed despite having an extremely prescient point that's never addressed because noplot.

>>154836063
it's the X-Men way

>>154835809
>>154835823
Emma still acts like a bitch but writers did and continue to change or justify a lot of the bad shit she has done.

>>154836081
>I'm sorry walking nuke can we please just have something beyond assurance that you're not going to go off at any time you're within a half-dozen school districts and my daughter goes to one and I don't think they'll be able to get out in time if-
>stop oppressing me

>>154833319
Because those towns suck.

>>154836088
Did they ever justify that horrible shit she did to wolverines daughter?

>>154832766
This

>>154834903
Emma, fuck my patient Frost! Emman it doesn't count if its in your mind Frost.

>>154835694
mut mutants only get their power in puberty.

>>154836115
Dazzler is Wolverines daughter?

>>154836088
Which proves the point in why Emma sucks. Emma doesn't need to be whitewashed and woobie sued at every moment. If they really wanted to show how much a bitch Emma us, they'd admit that everytime she does something bad and tries to get another brown/minority purse puppy to hide behind (Loudres Chantel, Kamala Khan, Isabelle Donovan, etc) she's just going through the motions to garner pity points. Doubly so since they either become subservient lapdogs for her and/or die so she can have a white woman's burden pity party rife with crocodile tears and conniving bullshit galore. It's ironic that the only purse puppy that didn't fall for that shit was that token tranny, Escapade, and that's probably one of the reasons why we don't see them anymore.

>>154833703
I don't like the idea of a traumatized or insane mind "infecting" the telepath looking into it, but the idea that it might not be comfortable to look into another's mind really should be explored more. Like everyone has some kind of traumas, bad memories or experiences, fears, fetishes, intrusive thoughts and just outright repulsive ideas or opinions and other shit that you probably can't sift through without it causing some sort of reaction (mostly a negative one). Like, every mind probably has plenty of dirt and negative shit in it, so it would make sense that a telepath wouldn't want to wade through that shit recreationally. Or you can explore this with showing that the most effective mind-readers are either sociopaths or incredibly jaded by what they see on the regular, and it's hard for rookie telepaths to do this shit because you can't separate the dirt from the information you might actually be interested in, you HAVE to dig through the crap first.

>>154835840
her entire appeal is you being a faggot
>despite her trying to be a better person.
she's not trying very hard

>>154836205
it was during new x-men whe x-23 had just joined
she also turned laura's then greatest enemy into an even worse threat while leaving her alive

>>154836283
Whatever happened to kimura anyway?

>>154836045
>Every time someone has a logical and reasonable response to mutants like making a cure, or the registration, Cable time travels and reveals that actually racist took advantage of that shit and used it to genocide mutants.
And the downside is...

>>154836264
I think what really needs to be explored is the fact there's almost no morally justifiable way to use these powers besides stuff like (non-intrusive) "psi-comms" and fixing messes left by OTHER telepaths. Marvel telepaths have been violating people left and right - and so deeply there isn't a real-life equivalent to it - for decades.

>>154832724
Can you elaborate on the context here? And is this McKay's run?

>>154836045
I feel like the whole mutant cure thing became legitimized by writers making a large number of mutants people who live in constant agony or those who have literally nothing to gain from their mutation.
Just from memory the daughter of that bitch from Civil War had a mutation that caused her to de-age into a fetus and die. I don't even see an upside to something like that.

>>154836567
Worse, Bendis' run. Black kid is one of the brand new mutants that popped up after the whole Phoenix Five nonsense led to thousands of random people suddenly getting new X-Genes (his power is healing people with a touch iirc). Scene is when he first arrived at Rightclops' secret mutant base and noticed the Cuckoos, leading to the OP.

>>154836045
I guess it's worth it to sometimes remind oneself that the world built by Marvel bends towards cynicism. I mean there's any number of evil organizations and conspiracies who have secretly always been in charge of everything. The average person is one sip of warm beer away from gathering a lynch mob. The characters are right to favor pragmatism over idealism because that's the logic of the world. 9/10 times it will be narratively validated. Marvel is plain and simple not the company for stories about the power of mutual understanding and cooperation, because those are always proven wrong in the long run.

>>154836198
You have to be born with the x-gene though
Its why they are such shitbags to spider-man
Got his powers around the same time
But hes a mutate

>>154833659
That's pretty much how I write most of my telepaths specifically because it disturbs me how little respect for mental privacy most Marvel telepaths have.

>>154836696
>>154836045
Same reason sentinels always turn on humanity. Mutants got to be right in the end.

>>154836595
The hilarious irony of this is those mutants were created literally as a "counterexample" to the prevalence of walking-nuke mutants who can level a city block by sneezing, which ALSO necessitates stuff like registration/monitoring/testing and the ability to cure/suppress it. If mutants were real, they wouldn't be allowed on passenger planes without their powers suppressed. If you couldn't register what each mutant's powers were in a database beforehand, you'd have scanners for X-genes basically in every context where there are metal detectors - schools, stadiums, airports, etc. - and you'd have to suppress the powers of even the most harmless ones as a matter of caution.

>>154836686
It is quite often that the people telepath mutants are violating are other mutants.
Hence, >>154832766.

>>154836696
>The average person is one sip of warm beer away from gathering a lynch mob
This is only (well, ALMOST only) the case when an X-Men book needs civilian strawman punching bags for the most shallow "aLlEgOrIcAl" dialogue imaginable.

>>154836733
Eh... this is actually a callback to the original story. They turn on Bolivar Trask almost immediately, in the 1965 story that introduces them. He's actually hesitant to make them, but he gets pushed towards making them as a result of time-traveling mutants (Jean Grey and his own mutant daughter among them) having a massively destructive fight. Trask literally sacrifices his own life to blow up the Sentinels when they turn on everyone.

He genuinely just wanted Sentinels to protect people (his FEAR was them being turned into indiscriminate hunter-killer machines), but nobody on X-Men twitter actually read the original story, and they filter their opinions on him through a game of telephone of acquired opinions formed on the perversion of his vision that the restarted Sentinel project became after he died.

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Is there ever a case you'd want someone reading your mind?

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>>154836567
Bendis Run. Scott and his revolutionary team went to go recruit some people from the school and brought the Cuckoo sisters. This is the previous page

>>154836728
That's something I don't get, everyone but Jona and the villians love Spider-man. If I was Xavier I would claim him in a heartbeat. I would also hire some pr people.

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>The killer robots I built are being used... to kill people?!

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You all need to calm down. Everything is fine.

>>154835809
>they don't pretend she isn't a bitch
Bruh, she is one of the most actively retconned characters in X-Men. Her on-panel appearances no longer line up with her in-universe history due to how many times they've changed it.

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>>154837164
They really should kill her off again and let her stay dead this time. I don't care that she's currently not starring in a title. The fact that she's out there at all is bad.

>>154836985
>>154832724
This is hot as fuck

>>154836045
Given that Marvel uses an infinitely branching timelime, someone should point out that it means an infinite number of futures where everything went great alongside an infinite number of futures where everything went bad, and an infinite number of futures where an infinite number of outcomes neither good nor bad happened.

>>154836212
I know they treat her like God's gift to queers because "muh oppressed gay brother" and giving her a remarkably distant and dispassionate temp relationship with Kitty during Krakoa, but I feel like Emma would be one of those women who treat gay guys like they're pets.

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>>154832724
Jews are telepaths. Look at the back of a jew’s head and think I KNOW YOU CAN HEAR MY THOUGHTS KIKE AND I’M GOING TO KILL YOU and they will turn around and look about bewildered, though no one said anything.

It’s why Hollywood is full of telepath cockstroking, and shitting all over foil helmets.

>>154836045
I mean, some mutants just want to be left alone and don't want to use their powers either. Plus, if they make a registration, they'd either have to make a bunch of jobs solely for mutants, or provide mutants with a means to keep themselves occupied and surviving in society. Or put in laws to stop discrimination against mutants from employers. There's also no way to tell if that registration wont just be used to kill the mutants either.

>>154836819
The problem with "Sentinels will always turn on humanity" is that it's only a problem because apparently nobody has ever bothered to create new programming for Sentinels. There is zero reason why a Sentinel should be capable of making that sort of reasoning and logic in the first place. Trask was a fucking anthropologist; him building functional AI-powered robots was a feat in itself so you could excuse the "kill mankind" shit as the unintended consequences of an amateur programmer. Everyone else, looking at you Emma and Sebastian, has zero reason to not redo the massive pile of fucky-fucky that is the Sentinels undoubtedly permafucked spaghetti coding.

>>154837485
The Sentinels will always lose because they wind up fighting for a future where robots (well, mostly them) reign supreme instead of focusing on killing all mutants.

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It’s funny how marvel telepaths make guys like picrel look like a hero from the DC side of things lol

>>154837164
Please tell me this is an alternate universe and not 616

>>154837164
What’s the context?

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>>154837151
They turned THEMSELVES into killing machines.

I cannot stress enough how quickly they turned on Trask. It's literaly 3 panels after you see their faces for the first time.

Oh, BTW, Jean is actually directly responsible for Trask pushing ahead with the project. It's in issue #-1 of the 1963 Uncanny X-Men. She also mindrapes Trask in the same issue to prevent him from remembering being reunited with his mutant daughter who got kicked into the future by her uncontrolled mutant powers.

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Actually, Jean's fuckery in Uncanny X-Men #-1 is worth posting in a thread (justifiably) shitting on telepaths.

Here we see her using her telepathy to make sure Bolivar Trask dies believing his daughter's mutation killed her...

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>>154837782
>>154837820
Wait fuck it isn't Jean it was Rachel AGGGGH

Anyway, here we see that Rachel screwed with the timeline herself anyway out of neglect.

>>154832724
thats my fetish

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>>154837699
>>154837760
This is the storyline where the teen x-men got brought forward into the future by adult Beast to shame adult Cyclops or some other stupid reason. They were arguing about whether they should go back right away or not. But got stuck in the present for a while anyway.
Teen Jean would go on to puppet control Angel a second time. Then after Jean tells Bobby he is gay, no one ever brought up Teen Jean's massive unethical telepathic behaviour again, just purely coincidentally. Ultimately the teen versions went back, and the present versions remembered everything that happened.

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>>154835966
Keep whining bro I'm sure that'll change things

>>154837782
>do as I say!
>BEGONE, THOT

>>154838106
I forget, did they ever reveal why they couldn't go back to their time for a while?

>>154838173
Just time shenanigans. They couldn't go back until they were supposed to go back.

>>154837528
russians aren't white.

Telepathy, as depicted in Marvel, the power to not just read, but alter people's thoughts and memories en masse, is objectively an existential threat to society which completely justifies registration and suppression of the ability.

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>>154838444
Clearly you're not going to listen to reason, so let's just change your mind for you.

>>154838489
>How dare you fear for your daughter's well being

>>154832871
No, they are not entitled to police other people's interiority because they're bad at their jobs.
Can't deal with it? Put on a cuck collar/cuck helmet.

>>154837164
>>154837760
time displaced original teen x men got brought forward in time because Beast is an alcoholic who thought it would make Cyclops stop riding his ass over his varied substance abuse problems
That's the jean who makes Ice Man gay and goes forward in time, becomes Xorn, then comes back in time to fuck with her forward in time to the present back in time self.

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>>154834868
I always thought that this should have been the direction they went with Bolivar Trask in Days of Future Past. Why even cast Dinklage if you're not going to comment on the fact that yes, a dwarf is technically a mutant and goes through similar stigma, but without cool powers. Although I guess in Trask's case, you could argue he has super intelligence.

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>>154832724

>group of blondes mindcontrolling people
These ladies look oddly familiar in appareance and behavior...

>>154834317
>Magneto is right that mutants ARE a master race
Except every future timeline where they can killed

>>154838978
Source?

>Hank Pym ACCIDENTALLY smacks his wife during a mental breakdown (granted, there was the whole Ultron thing too)
>gets dragged through the mud as a psychopathic abusive maniac for decades on end
>X-Men routinely commit murder, kidnapping, child endangerment, treason, mind rape, regular rape, and double parking
>they get away with it for generations and even the hardest sectors of the Marvel fandom go easy on them
The power of playing the oppression victim card, ladies and gentlemen.

>>154838489
>>154838388
>>154838106
>>154837164
Was Jean always such a cunt?

>>154838978
>look up the artist
>picrel aside it's the ugliest and most disgusting shit known to man
What causes this phenomenon?

>>154832766
/thread

>>154839683
Didn't even notice it was Fellatrix holy kek

>>154839807
Oh wow, I didn't notice either.
Yea, he pretty much exclusively draws 4 things.
>Giant wrinkly futas
>Old women with big saggy tits getting blacked
>Lolis getting fucked by horses
>Shotas/femboys getting fucked by futas

>>154839191
The artist is fellatrix, the characters are ivy and lily.

>>154837323
Did you know the reason they wear the tiny hat is actually so that spirits dont enter or exit through the head.
Its to both keep out and keep in spirits.
Atleast thats what jews believe.

>>154839828
Does he just do it for the paycheck or is he really that much of a sick twisted degenerate fuck?

>>154839288
his wife had been fucking with his head up to that point too, she honestly deserved it

>>154839288
Man, Hank Pym vs telepath's would honestly be a fun arc considering his mental problems and also what fun solution you could come up with on him dealing with that sorta power.

>>154839335
Why do you think they were able to have OG X-men dead for like a decade with little push back. Hell her ass would probably still be dead if Marvel wasn't trying to get back in the X-fags good graces after the Inhuman push. There was no signs of bringing her back before then and they made Teen jean as a unlikable as possible.

>>154839828
>Shotas/femboys getting fucked by futas
he doesn't do that.
>>154839683
>picrel aside it's the ugliest and most disgusting shit known to man
not even top 50

Good news for my fellow telepath haters: the MCU is going to popularize it among normalfags with Jean Grey possessing people against their will and seriously harming them in the new Spider-Man.

>>154840167
>he doesn't do that.
He absolutely does, in fact, he draws a lot of shota in general.

>>154839970
Considering how long he's been drawing that kind of stuff I refuse to believe that he just does it for the comms, he's gotta be a true dyed-in-the-wool degenerate to be drawing cellulite-covered futas facefucking each other and loli/shota bestiality for the better part of a decade, if not longer.

>>154840433
maybe it's like with the pit. Tried to do other things but no one wants his stuff because of the thing he is famous for and his fans only care for that one thing.

>>154840320
Wtf did Jean Grey forget in a Spider-Man movie

>>154838371
Thank you for proving my point you reactionary descendant if in red sheep hearders. I'm glad we figured out who is white and who isn't

>>154840433
>>154840487
I'd say it's a little of both. He's definitely a degenerate but a lot of his work is for comms. Shame really, he used to do some top-tier BBW and preggo work.

>>154840067
Moon Knight had an episode against a guy mind possession people

>>154840525
>Wtf did Jean Grey forget in a Spider-Man movie
Go back to English class, Pedro.

>>154832724
you don't know what he was thinking. he might've been a footfag.

>>154840846
>projecting ESL brownoid outing himself
comedy

>>154840320
Twitter fans of Jean will call it character assassination.

People who've read the comics know it really isn't. And I'm not talking about the Phoenix Force.

>>154840917
I am only fluent in English and that one did take me a second. It's a turn of phrase I quite like but I feel like it works better spoken. Usually how I hear it phrased would have been "What the fuck did Jean Grey lose in a Spider-Man movie"

>>154840794
That was the Mackay issue with the sweat contact powers guy right?

>>154832724
Absolutely abominable.
We need to bring back sentinels, but optimized to genocide telepaths specifically.
None of these *creatures* are free of sin.

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>>154832724
If I was in marcel I'd take a fuckton of psychedelics often to brain fcuk any annoying ass telepath that tries to infiltrate my brain

WELCOME TO PRIME TIME BITCH

>>154841150
Yes

>>154841118
She was making people jump off buildings, not just rummaging through their minds and altering memories

>>154832724
No one would tolerate telepaths in real life. Not only are they terrifying conceptually, but most of them are dicks who'll wreck your mind as a prank because you annoyed them

I hate mutants. I hate how they are portrayed. I hate the authors misusing genetics. No they are not a "replacement" or a new species, this is clealry some kind of phenotype expressing itself when it previously did not. The gene is present in all human populations. Not everyone has it, but not even all carriers express it. So barring reproductive advantage this is not going to change the frequency of the genotype.

All X-Men authors should read this
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10882630/

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Venom was right.

>>154833384
To be fair mutants not only seems to have a worse time controlling their powers like there's been a handful of mutants that awakened their powers and immediately killed their family, school, or hell even a whole town. Does it make sense for people born with their powers to seemingly have worse and less reliable control over their powers than people who got them later in life? No but that's the case so you just got to roll with it. They're also the main source of telepaths and as we have seen telepaths have to be the most evil pieces of shit in comics with no respect for your most personal private thoughts and the even more horrifying capacity to rewrite your mind. When the X men have created a term that designates world ending mutants clearly these people are an issue.

>>154832888
You are a telepath if you have a human body git gud

>>154841768
Venom is always right.

>>154840889
Footfags are mutants too kill them all

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>>154838106
This is around the time half of the xmen turned gay for no reason.
It is my head cannon the teen Jean got really into a03 and shipping while in this time and is "influencing" things so her favorite ships sail.

>>154839683
He has one arm too

>>154839970
Judging by his Discord logs he does it for the love of the game, he even did a BLM fundraising stream once where he drew commissions

Remember that time Peter was mutating and he asked the X-Men for help and all the mutants who look like normal humans got pissy at him for not wanting to be a mutant and the only one who helped him was Beast the big blue man? What a bunch of assholes these people are the worst I despise when they treat all mutants as equal like somehow Beak and Storm got the same raw deal. Fuck you guys

>>154841684
The notion that mutants have their origin in genetics and biology reads like nonsense to me.
There is no commonality between mutant powers supposedly caused by the X-gene.
Even within families of mutants, the nature of each member's mutation can vary wildly.
More critically, these mutations can produce effects that defy the laws of physics or even bend reality.

Let's be real, X-men mutant powers are supernatural/magical in nature.

>>154841620
She almost certainly won't come to that conclusion on her own, but if somebody convinced her that was the most "good" course of action, it's exactly what she'd do - ethics and morality be damned.

>>154835966
If anything at this point /pol/ is basically the immune system freaking out as it desperately tries to fight the cancer off.

>>154842079
This.
Auto-immune disorder.

lol
lmao, even

>>154842079
Nah anon said it
This is a post-2016 problem that the immune system is responding to

>>154841934
>>154841684
I dont hate mutants

But I do find linking them under one exact species is kinda silly, when all they have in common is an x-gene and base human DNA

No two mutants are alike, and they're born randomly, they're just humans with extra stuff in their dna

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>>154841934
>X-men mutant powers are supernatural/magical in nature
Yes. The X-Gene is literally a small tear in reality inserted into the genome of our monkey ancestors by actual, tangible space gods because SCIENCE!!!! This has been canon for decades now

>>154842343
This, I always thought the Superiority angle was a biologically blind bit of bigoted crock, it's just something else that's part of Humanity. They can still breed with Humans, they ARE Human, except they have a gatcha mechanic built into them at birth.

Unironically love that this concept has become so normalized that they've unintentionally used it to explain why normal people are gonna hate and fear the MCU X-Men

>>154842079
That certainly sounds like something /pol/ would tell itself.

>>154842234
No.
2016 boomer MIGA fags are the cancer killing /pol/
Nazis however are the lifeblood of /pol/

>>154842533
It's extra retarded because canonically they were an uplifted branch species before modern humans even evolved that got BTFO'd so hard that humanity fucked them to death, both metaphorically and literally because we got the X-gene from plowing Neanderthal pussy, that they went extinct and lost the evolutionary arms race millennia ago, despite the entire experiment breaking down repeatedly and no less than 4 variations of magical supertech functional god-beings all trying to cheat in their favor.

Mutants are unironically a genetic throwback to a failed experiment kept around as the equivalent of a biological war trophy, like if you had photographic evidence of your granddad in Vietnam plowing some slut on top of her dad's corpse. The superiority thing is unintentionally the Marvel universe equivalent of "We Wuz" hotep shit, coping and seething about being a genetic dead end.

"We Iz" if you will.

>Ask someone if they are a Mutant
>Get asked if you are a Nigger.
What the fuck did the X-Men and Mutants mean by this?

>>154842917
>What the fuck did the X-Men and Mutants mean by this?
Support our agenda slave, I mean citizen.

>>154841794
Part of setting up Xavier's school as "the place to train your powers" in the early days was making controlling powers extremely difficult without training.

>>154839970

The artist is a real one. You cannot push that kind of passion powered only by money.

>>154837528
Not really relevant to the Stepford Cuckoos reaction to what black TJ from Digimon was thinking about doing to them. Altering his mind was self-defense.

>>154841768
nice shop bro

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>>154834868
>>154835293
>>154838877
>muh unfair deformity
I want to see an X-men comic where one of these dysgenic freaks starts a Youtube channel, becomes famous, and laughs at all the envious losers.

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>>154841836

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>>154845133
>I want to see an X-men comic where one of these dysgenic freaks starts a Youtube channel

We kinda had that. Spiderman showed up to lead a class of freaks that had not so good powers. The run was actually really good, and fun. It was a /co/ favorite at the time.

>>154845731
LUL, Thanks, I've never read it. I'll have to check it out.

>>154844988
But is it wrong?

>>154839926
They are odd ducks aren't they? You know when they do that bobbing at the Wailing Wall it's because that's the female presence of their God that split into Male essence of them and Female essence of the temple, and so they're fucking their God, pelvic thrusting it? Ironic it's not even really a piece of the temple, they just say it is. That and stuff like the Eruv, it's a hard on a 'because we believe it to be, it is so' vibe. No wonder schizophrenia runs so hard in them.

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>>154846148
Oh no, I guess it was only 6 issues. I thought it was alot longer than that. It felt like it when it came out. I think its because the characters stuck around for a while after those 6 issues in other books.

Everyone loved Herman Glob and Sharkgirl became a waifu for a while.

>>154832724
I guess there's an element of simply getting used to it. Compared to the Avengers, the X-Men tend to be a lot more casual about letting psychics do their thing. It's rare for them to not have a psychic around to at least facilitate telepathic communication during missions.

>>154842343
The invention of the "X-Gene" as an actual singular gene instead of a metaphor was a huge mistake.

Mutants are living weapons that can wipe out city blocks and even entire cities with their unnatural powers. People are right to fear them, make them angry and they will kill hundreds easy.

>>154841934
I was told it works like a wizard. There's obviously something about him that lets him use magic, but he's still a flesh-and-blood human. So there is a human thing that can let you do magic.

The mutations themselves are obviously an adaptive defense, they're way too relevant to the mutant's situation in life when they mutate to be totally random, and the alternative that some kind of metaphysical destiny is pulling them into situations reflective of foreordained powers is disturbingly possible but ultimately way over my very inexact lore knowledge to answer.

You ever see Reboot? I think it's like that, you get a thing to help you handle some situation that baseline humanity would be hopelessly ill-equipped to handle, from some point of view. Except because it's built-in, you're stuck with it after. Even if it's totally unhelpful or actively makes dying seem like an improvement, oh well.

I think there was an old school that competed with Darwin's theory of evolution way back when. Mew from Pokemon was based on it. It posited an alternative where environmental stimulus provoked evolutions which were then passed down, rather than the inverse model we now know to be true. Marvel's mutants appear to be a throwback to this deprecated model of evolution.

>>154839970
>For the paycheck
Considering he opened commissions and the rules were you could only comm his OCs (so not commission of your characters) getting fucked in the ways he already draws, he does it for the love of the game.

>>154834317
>mutants ARE a master race
Sure sure, now get back to your 9-5 shilling crypto pump and dumps to Indians on X, Johnny Dicktoes.

>>154836976
I'm suffering from lock in syndrome or in a coma or something.
Checking if people are brain dead is another big one.
Hell, after a major disaster you could use telepaths like sniffer dogs. I'm pretty sure "HOLY FUCK, SOMEONE FIND ME PLEASE. SAVE ME!" is a pretty loud thought.

>>154845731
He is Skeleton Jelly.

>>154832785
This.

>>154845731
Spidey was a better teacher than any of the x-men, and he's not even a mutant.
And it just made them seethe and get mutie at him so hard.

>>154845731
Since we're putting x-men stuff in a spider-man movie can we at least get a sequel to this comic

It was fun

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>>154847539
It's an long-running djoke that the X-Men's schools have laughable curriculums and near nonexistent standards for their educators. Even if Peter were utterly unqualified to teach a class of students, if he imparted anything useful on them at all he already did a better job than some of the regulars on staff.

>>154842912
Technically, they are the byproduct of a VERY SUCCESSFUL experiment: X-gene kickstarted the powers of Franklin Richards(who later nullified it being a necessity for his powers) and Craig Hollis, Mr. Immortal, who evolved beyond it.

Getting both the Anointed Prince of Eternity and The Spare is not a small feat.

Of course that makes the Mutantkind redundant and obsolete.

>>154847585
how many x-men had a normal school experience before? Peter finished highschool. Even Jean and Cyclops only had charles tutor them.

>>154847289
You're referring to Lamarckian evolution. There actually is a small amount of truth to it, due to mechanisms like epigenetic inheritance.

>>154832724
>powerful telepath with the ability to influence people's behavior runs for office
>you will all vote for me
>wins
>goes to the legislature
>you are all now honest, selfless people who will act in the best interests of your citizens
>now, you will appoint me as UN ambassador
>goes to the UN
>repeat
Why do telepaths refuse to bring about world peace?

>>154847600
Dunno. Most of these characters were never shown attending school normally, let alone finishing it. The teachers are rarely licensed, many didn't attend school normally themselves. Most of the characters we get to see age out of these schools never go to college, so in effect the college admission rate is likely catastrophic by any sane metric.

>>154847585
This is racist, not all ninjas act alike.

I bet wolverine would stab a ninja in the back just for being a ninja.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgkefnwlpkA

>>154847656
That's of course because the real purpose of Xavier's school is to grow his army of superhuman child soldiers

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>>154847653
>Why do telepaths refuse to bring about world peace?
Xavier has done more to save the world from nuclear holocaust than the rest of the world put together.

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>>154847684
>This is racist, not all ninjas act alike.
He couldn't be, he's metaphysically Japanese.

>>154847653
the UN doesn't decide things retard

>>you are all now honest selfless people
>I have no power, I'm just a diplomat and my boss is an evil narcissist in the employ of domestic interest groups

>>154847720
Fair. It's nice that he at least addresses the fact he COULD do it.

>>154847738
Hence why in my greentext they'd already done the same thing at a national level. If you got the elected officials to tell the truth, they'd also be telling the truth about the people who seek to manipulate and buy them.

>>154832724
Every telepath in X-Men proves mutant haters right on a daily basis.

>>154847783
X-men in general do this

>>154847720
This is retarded, and would easily miss out people who had psychic defences which are dime-a-dozen in marvel.

>>154847864
Sorry, pal. No nuclear apocalypse for you.

>>154847931
I would think the fact that we haven’t had a nuclear holocaust in real life without someone psychically compelling the world leaders to never push the button might indicate that mind control of that level is completely unnecessary and thus not as altruistic as one thinks

>>154847949
Also there were at least a couple of times nukes were deployed in 616,so he's not even effective

>>154832775
Marvel mutant psychics are all genuinely awful people.

>>154832724
>Be telepath
>Be retarded enough to powerlevel yourself
>Be doubly retarded when facing an angry lead-helmetted schizoid holding a sawnoff shotgun
>Last shared thoughts before becoming carpet chowmein is "Shit, we shouldn't have powerleveled ourselves for something so trite"

And that's why I don't take my meds, to prevent cunts like these intruding into the inner sanctum of my jumbled mind.

>>154832724
Can't psychics just mentally project ugliness if they don't want to be spoken to? You just to be identical blonde girls when you could be a smelly 40 something man wearing oversized headphones and reading a book.

>>154847720
This is just further justification to exterminate Telepaths.
In fact this may be the crowning example of why its necessary.
Xavier here just admitted to violating personal autonomy on a global scale.

>Oh, but stopping nuclear war is good though
Yes.
But it also sets a precedent on what he can, and is willing to, do.
He is entirely willing to invisibly manipulate everybody's thoughts and actions if he feels it is necessary or just to do so.

Mankind's perceptions, principles and priorities can be simply rewritten on mass - any sort of dystopia can be flash implemented - if a pretentious bald freak deems it necessary or just.
That is patently horrific.
Even moreso than the existence of Cerebro.

>>154847600
Havok has a master in geology or something.

>>154847949
yeah it's literally just a way for X-Men writers to steal credit for the restraint around nukes that real world leaders have
and an excuse for Chuck to fellate his ego

>>154833219
You say that like they won't put in an earworm of THEIR favorite song because they are offended that you don't think like them

>>154846614
>I guess there's an element of simply getting used to it.
That is how it feels sometimes with how quickly people brush over Jean giving people strokes or mindwiping them or shit.
>be concerned single parent
>my kid ends up at this freaky cult school
>kid sends me letters about how miserable they are
>says they're training the children to be part of some mutant militia
>I show up saying I want to unenroll my kid, send them to normal school
>this red-haired bitch shows up and says she doesn't like my tone
>she erases all my memories of my child so I stop bothering them
>rewrites my kid's memories to think I was abusive
>now my kid's just ever-so-happy about their new home and friends and will give their life to the cause!
X-Men is so goddamned fucked up the more you think about it.

>>154847720
I know this is a world where two hijacked planes somehow escaped the attention of literally every super hero and villain in NYC but nuclear weapons hardly seem like a threat with the crap they have running around.

>>154848210
>That is patently horrific.
That's the point he's making, yes.

>>154834317
Has magneto ever meet the sweerer mutants?

>>154842894
You're a newfag that wasn't around in 2014. Go back to whatever shithole you came from.

>>154832888
Depends if the telepathy has a range limit/info limit otherwise you die to a sniper or a gunman in a crowd as easily as the next guy.

>>154848363
Fun fact, the 9/11 comic isn’t even canon. It was a tribute issue slotted into a Spider-Man storyline when he was comatose. So it might not have even happened like it did irl.

>>154832888
Not every telepath is a telekinetic, most of them aren't.

>>154847653
Mind control is not permanent. A mind left to its own devices will eventually return to its original state, so it's not practical for a single telepath to mind control large numbers of people.
Even using Cerebro, they'd still have to check regularly that everyone is still under control.

This is why you kill psykers or use them as batteries

>>154847642
Doesn't epigenetic inheritance only happen with microorganisms and some types of algae because anything more complex it runs into issues?

>>154848672
Yes which is why killing the emperor was a good thing cause he was a filthy psyker.

>>154848679
It happens in humans too. A person's genes never actually change in a lifetime, but certain physical and psychological experiences can change markers in DNA, resulting in descendants being more prone to certain traits.

>>154848706
Your words drip with sarcasm, but they are true.

>>154841934
It's capeshit comics, so you just have to accept that combinations of proteins can grasp infinite energy and change reality itself.
But it's mostly because Celestials are so powerful that there's little difference between magic and science for them.
Storm is so poweful because she comes from a line of African sorcerers, Wanda's power is harnessing chaos magic, and some mutants also harness darkforce. So yeah, mutant powers do overlap a lot with magic.

>>154848732
There is a difference between epigenetic inheritance and zygote influence.
>certain physical and psychological experiences can change markers in DNA,
Thats zygote influence which is not the same as epigenetic inheritance, which is a epigenetic response appearing in a offspring despite not having the epigenetic trigger.

>>154842358
They seemingly retconned that during the Krakoa age. Hickman had it stated a couple of times that it was natural. Aaron had Mutants being older than humans. Orlando there be a billion year old mutant civilization. Then of Gillen did the thing with mutants being the result of race mixing with deviants. It has been quite some time since the Celestial implanting thing has been mentioned. It was even left out of the history of the marvel universe mini that came out around that time.

>Sentinels are bad because they can scan databases and kill people for wrong genome
>Telepaths are good because they can scan minds and kill people for wrong think

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>My Hero Academia is a better written setting about freaks going to super school than the X-Men
Jesus...

>>154848918
Isn't MHA just a world where Magneto was right and he won?

>>154832864
This

>>154848679
...No? Not sure where you heard that. Offspring inherit more than just a genome. Your cells literally use heritable epigenetic changes to differentiate into different tissues despite having the same genome. E.g., your muscle cells turn off genes that cells use to build bone, and when those cells divide, both daughter cells will have those proteins turned off (unless something has gone very wrong).

>>154848817
Inheritance of stuff like methylation and histone marker patterns can happen between generations in complex life, and it is not exclusively zygote influence. It's been demonstrated pretty robustly in animals at this point, but it's always been very difficult to study in mammals because of viviparity - you have a whole gestation period for the mother's epigenetics to influence the epigenetics of the offspring. (Which is in itself a kind of epigenetic inheritance, just not what is referred to as "transgenerational epigenetic inheritance," which is probably what you're referring to specifically).

The basic gist of the current state-of-the-art in research AFAIK is that the events during development that clear MOST of the gamete's epigenetic information before the offspring develops do not actually clear ALL of it.

>>154848928
It's a world where the mutants are the majority so it's instead the normies, the ugly beast mutants and the mutants with villain coded powers (like mind control funnily enough) that get bullied
It's hard to oppress mutants when 80% of the world are mutants

>>154842079
True

>>154848928
MHA is earth X actually.

>>154833703
There is one comic when Gambit explain most telepaths shut their minds off in the school because most thoughts come from horny teens and they don't want to see that. He then proceeds to explain how he brings back a terrible disgusting memory whenever they're around to disgust them as well, likely because the writer forgot that he's inmune to telepaths, but it's funny nevertheless.

>>154848253
Mutant wank is one of the biggest cancer in marvel

>>154849048
Back on Utopia Rogue borrowed Emma's telepathy for an afternoon and accidentally broadcast a memory of herself and Gambit having sex to everyone on the island. Basically she beamed her psychic sex tape straight into the brain of all of mutantdom. Gotta be careful with telepathy.

>>154849100
That's because modern writers don't know to write anything about their relationship that isn't sex.
Also, this would be his third sex tape holy fuck.

>>154848918
>My Hero Academia
>better written setting
These two concepts are incongruous together.

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Remember when a mutant killed a random cashier because she saw a CUSTOMER not throw away their plastic bag properly?

She’s living a peaceful life on Krakoa btw

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>>154848918
In what way?

Are there any ETHICAL ways to use telepathy or is it all just mind rape?

>>154848212
That's Polaris, and it's a PhD iirc

>>154838131
kek

>>154835966
Yeah just like how ALS is what's "killing" Stephen Hawking like it didn't already happen years ago

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>>154847720
>Why dont you just put the whole world in a bottle, Chuck?

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>>154847418
>Johnny Dicktoes
>Powers: Fucking kicks, stomping pricks

>>154836020
Might be your experience, but it isn't mine.
Women are repelled by gross, unhygienic, and non-socialized men.
Take a shower, groom your hair, talk to people regularly.
That's literally ALL you need to get an average woman. White or otherwise.

>>154851142
None of that can fix having a small penis btw. Not that you shouldn’t wash your greasy ass but still.
>>154836020
Just log off the internet bro. Plenty of nerdy black guys get play. Don’t warp your mind on incel nonsense. (Unless if you have a small penis like me, in which case welcome to the club)

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>>154851386
Unless you're in micro range that's less of a problem than men think.
Besides for a small dick to be a problem then you've already bagged a woman.
Plus there's stuff like dick fillers nowadays, you'll be alright.

>>154837323
I once made a tinfoil helmet for shits and giggles. One, I had never considered how massive my head is before (size 8) and how much tinfoil I would need to make a decent, sturdy mindkontrol helmet.
Two, how much calmer my thoughts became after an hour of wearing that shit. Maybe (hopefully) it was just all placebo, but it was surreal how every time I wore it I could have a serene stream of consciousness vs the chaotic and funny way I process shit. Haven't worn one in uears, tho, I felt it was robbing me out of what makes me -me-, you know?

>>154850513
>Charles Xavier just casually talking about turning world leaders into his puppets
>none of them have any agency
>he thinks of the entire world as his toys to play with
>takes credit for every walk back from the precipice that regular-old real-life Homo sapiens have done
>the human fear, yes, but also human empathy that has kept every nuke in its silo in every hot conflict since the end of WWII
>even Pakistan and India have restraint about this
>...but no, it's all Chuck, only Chuck
>he's the only one keeping nuclear war from happening
>he's the cis white male making decisions for those dumb browns with nukes
>by mind raping world leaders on A GLOBAL SCALE
>X-Men fans unironically celebrate his violation of consent, bodily autonomy, and mental autonomy and call it "based"
>because "omg yass Charles, make all decisions for that dumb ape species [that I am a member of]"

X-Men fans being utterly unwilling to consider the thought of living in 616 without superpowers has always been an issue with that fandom, but Krakoafags are truly something else.

Can you imagine the sheer despair if one of the terminally online Krakoafags got isekai'd into the life of a Marvel Civilian™?
>waiting for an X-gene activation that's never coming to save them
>turned away by Krakoa (or at best treated like a pet and constantly surveiled and probably mind raped on the regular out of suspicion if they do somehow end up on Krakoa) for not having the right gene
>every city at least as violent and deadly as real-life war zones
>living or dying entirely at the whims of incompetent demigods
I wonder how many would reflect on the true nature of their beliefs, on the nature of power and oppression, etc. - and how many would just rope.

>>154837229
Is it?

>>154851686
You forgot to take your pills again.

>>154836545
The whole thing was always a massive joke. I know it sounds crazy but turns out laser eyes are not a good allegory for racial tension.

>>154848918
>My Hero Academia is a better written setting
No it's not.

>>154832871


>Otherwise they constantly hear everyone's stream of consciousness whether they like it or not

then they need to wear metal inhibitors like mags helmet till they figure shit out. you not being able to control your powers shouldnt be my problem

>>154852173
If you think another bigoted thought like that again I will make your wife believe she’s a transgender man

>>154851753
You Will Never Be A Mutant™

>>154852185

reed should have dunked on krakoa instead of the orchis shit. what a wasted oportunity

The whole x-men and x-fag audience are frankly mind blowing. They want to keep mutants as the constant victims who are just poor innocents being picked on but they also want to have moments where the mutants get to flex and own on anyone they dislike and they're just completely tone def to the notion that all of this is only proving the people they don't like right. Mutants don't have to make an effort because you're wrong for not letting them do whatever they want with impunity.

>>154852373
>The Mutant cries as it PK strikes you

Would be worth to check the 'Early Life' section of the storywriters. For no reason at all, just academic curiosity...

>>154851686
>Can you imagine the sheer despair if one of the terminally online Krakoafags got isekai'd into the life of a Marvel Civilian™?
oh they'll never do that. Marvel Civilians™ aren't allowed to be people

>>154835966
Sadly /lgbt/ is the only terminal cancer we got here

>>154852373
>but they also want to have moments where the mutants get to flex and own on anyone they dislike and they're just completely tone def to the notion that all of this is only proving the people they don't like right.


its like magneto taking politicians to israel and telling them they have new gods now. the x house was so fucking tone deaf during krakoa that its kinda funny that mutants are back to the woe is me angle

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>>154832766
Doc Samson should write a book on how to deal with these fuckers.

So I'm kinda going backwards through new mutants stuff. I read the Krakoa Saga which was a bit slow and tough to parse but was fun, now I just finished the New Mutants movie, why the fuck would you make a good little Presbyterian girl like Rahne into a dyke? Next I had a half mind of going a bit further back and maybe starting one of their 90's runs? Or I could stick to the format and do the one around 2010. I'm basically happy with anything focused on Rahne or on Illyana, and anything that avoids Warlock... His stupid chapter in the Krakoa series made me want to drop the comic.

>>154852937
As far as NM goes I only ever really liked the Demon Bear stuff. Cuz man was Sienkiewicz on fire.

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>>154852937
Go read the OG run
>anything that avoids Warlock... His stupid chapter in the Krakoa series made me want to drop the comic.
cringe ngmi

>>154850389
He does have master degree in Geophysics too but yeah she's the one with a doctorat.

>>154852373
They're certainly not very empathetic to the outgroups of their (fictional, and self-identified despite being explicitly genetic) ingroups. I wonder, who should that remind them of?

>>154852678
>x house was so fucking tone deaf during krakoa
Arguably only when Hickman leaves. Hickman was about as subtle as a brick to the face that Krakoa was mutant Israel, and that it wasn't a good thing. He was setting them up to be antagonistic in an intergalactic race war that he never ultimately wrote (because he writes bizarre OOC stuff like that, it's just who he is).

A couple of the writers took the problems Hickman set out seriously, but there was almost no connection to those competent, critical stories in the main narrative. Instead, the era post-Hickman was steered by Ayodele-tier twitter stan writers only capable of oblivious, masturbatory one-upmanship.

It became chaotic and meandering because their only guiding plan was to stay in the zero-stakes, X-gene-worshipping ethnostate sandbox for longer. That's also why the era ends with an unintentional parody of "I must go, my planet needs me" for Krakoa. There was no plan to evolve the sandbox by examining its rotten foundations, and no plan for how to leave it when people stopped buying the books.

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>>154851686
>>living or dying entirely at the whims of incompetent demigods
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was......

>>154850253
I think the whole storyline has been retconned away

>>154853471
I worry that it doesn't matter, and Nature Girl has been ruined forever by association as a somehow less empathetic, less competent parody of Poison Ivy at her absolute worst.

Plenty of people still think 616 Wanda and Pietro are/were incestuous at some point - and that literally was 616 Nature Girl.

I liked Nature Girl dammit

>>154853304
A lot of the other writers immediately picked up on the narrative problems with Krakoa but were explicitly told by Hickman they couldn't write stories about Krakoa being challenged. It's part of the Hickman dickriding that everyone else was simply too stupid to understand his genius rather than the reality Hickman having functional editorial control over the X-Men line for years and not wanting anyone to steal his thunder.

>>154853798
That tracks with the kind of guy Hickman is, but doesn't track with the writing that DID challenge Krakoa (e.g. what happened with Third Eye).

Did that just slip through Hickman's meddling fingers?

>>154853837
You had shit like Spurrier repeatedly tossing softball questions and whiffing them as well. No one was making pertinent, hard-hitting commentary on Krakoa until Hickman's power waned, just the pretense. And to this day as far as I know no one as ever asked any of the hard questions like, "Why was everyone OOC?"

>>154833384
>mutants are born into a cult
>mutates are random people with no explicit affiliation

>>154853139
Alex and Lorna really should just go back to being geologists again and leave this mutie shit behind

Remember when Reed made a machine that could block a Mutant's abilities and Xavier went Big Brother and wiped his mind and destroyed the machine?

Was that before or after that one mutant kid that killed hundreds of people in a small town because his power activated and it was literal death? Pretty sure he would've loved to have had that machine before Wolverine killed him

>>154850253
>She’s living a peaceful life on Krakoa btw
Why lie? They actually tried her and got sentenced to basically Krakoa prison, its just that Doug let her escape and she's been on the run since then.

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>>154845731
I'm sad that he's never gotten the chance to see his students again

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>>154832724
You look at him and tell me he wasn't a sex offender in the making. He had it coming.

>>154841879
Source?

>>154845731
Another non shit modern marvel comic canned too early

>>154854693

way after and in the ultimate universe. however if charles and max would have let reed keep working on it, it would have really helped against orchis and their mutant detector. shit a gene masker could help living abominations live normal lives. but if youre a mutant, theres nothing wrong with you, unless you lose your powers, then your only options are fighting en saba nur to death or get the fuck out to be killed by the many enemies amassed waiting at the castle gates. the fact that the bus bombing wasnt seen as a major x blunder is fucking crazy, but letting literal predators run rampant in krakoa and around impressionable kids is pretty close

>>154853837
did they? then the hellfire gala shit was in real bad taste if you knew fucked up shit was going on

>>154854061
>Why was everyone OOC
Wasn't the plan basically the island making everyone breathe ethnostate particles?