Does it still hold up?
>>154836060yes the music is unironically good
>>154836060>Tweek's character model thrown in the crowd but he doesn't appear in the movie>They even remembered Cartman's extended family for crowd filler, even the skinny cousin when NuPark could never
>>154836060Does a movie about rednecks who care more about children swearing than a potential war with Canada still hold up today?Yes, as a matter of fact.
It's a fun time capsule of the show in 1999.
>>154836104I think this really sums up most south park seasons as a whole. I will say Matt and Trey's story telling abilities got better over the years and it's fun watch how they evolved over time.Fuck I should really rewatch the entire series after I finish rewatching family guy
>>154836060A few dated jokes kinda drag it down a little, but the music is great, the comedy is great and the concept of "Mob refuses to back down from their stupid fucking plan, regardless of how its not making anything better and making everything much worse, because America was built on the concept of "Never back down, never surrender and NEVER admit a mistake" Because that thinking is how we won almost half the wars we fought." still rings true today.
>>154836060Yes, you just have to remember that the movie was made in 1999 so a handful of references feel outdated. Otherwise it's still funny as shit and the musical sequences are shockingly good.
>>154836060Yes, the music is still great. There's a few cringe jokes with 90's humour and Butters and Randy weren't actual characters by that point in time so they don't do anything but it's still a good movie
>>154836206Randy was an actual character back then and even spoke in the movie. He was a straightman father and one of the more normal guys in town.
>>154836060oh yeahi can't believe the movie theater allowed me and my friends see this when we were 10-11 years old
>>154836060Mountain Town is a beautiful song
>>154836060Yeah, it's honestly great on all fronts, definitely in the top tier of TV show movies
>>154836060It's before Matt and Trey sold out. It's good.>>154836206Kenny would be a non entity if they made the movie today.>>154836826Before they made Randy "Peter Griffin Clone No. 38"
Just the one scenehttps://youtu.be/Vis-fm9sREY?si=fffr0xeEapTVHmer
>>154836060I wonder how many drafts the script went through, there's an official eighth draft online and honestly, it's a rough read. Scenes drag on and the songs are nowhere near as well written as the final product. For example, the whole rehab scene with Mr Mackey lasts multiple scenes in this version and has a mild subplot of cartman having cheesy poof withdrawal
Better than the simpsons movie for sure
>>154837251>You can see your breath hanging in the air>You see homeless people but you just don't care>It's a sea of smiles in which we'd be glad to drooooownnn
>>154836060If you could have nominated any other song aside from Blame Canada for an OscarWhat would you choose?
>>154836060only if you haven't grown out of Newgrounds humor
>>154839881Uncle Fucka if only for >That's U N C L E fuck you!
>>154839881La Resistance
>>154839899South Park was newgrounds before newgroundsSpirit of Christmas would have been right at home on the siteSometimes I do wonder what Matt and Trey would be doing had the show not gotten picked upI know they did a couple of pilots for a live action kids show for fox
>>154836060yeah it's still good
>>154839918Probably would have tried going fully into comedic acting and directing low budget fare ala orgazmo
>>154839899No
Why did she do it?
>>154836060It's my favorite movie. I rewatch it regularly. I don't like the Satan and Saddam scenes so I usually skip them. Everything else still makes me smile.
>>154836206>There's a few cringe jokes with 90's humourSuch as?What is 90's humour?
>>154836060absolutely. nothing about the movie has aged poorly into the modern era.
>>154836089several characters appear twice. I see shelly, bebe, and tweak twice.
>>154841336Even the animation looks better than what South Park does now since it actually looked like construction paper
>>154841237Matt and Trey talk about how hard of a sell Saddam and Satan were. Especially in 1999 when he wasn't even dead
>>154841411I wonder if having Saddam had anything to do with how much people hated Not Without my Anus.
>>154841446There probably was some influence from that episode since it centered about him with Terrance and Phillip
>>154841399I know it's simply because of the time period it released in but I love the fact that the movie was mastered on film despite being 100 percent computer animated. The film master is the only one that's available to watch I think. Usually for situations like that they'd make a fully digital one but they may not have the files
What's dated other than the Windows 98 joke?
>>154840191These three people could voice and entire episode in the first three seasons and that's still crazy to me.
>>154841631I guess Bill Clinton being the president
>>154841631Hell, you could dub that joke with the current windows version and it'd still workThe anne murray joke in Blame Canada could be another dated one. Trey replaced her with Ryan Reynolds in the 25th anniversary concert
>>154841399It's a shame how much they started to try to make the show look "better". People will call you a nostalgiafag for saying this but the newer, heavily detailed background illustrations really made the show lose a lot of its visual identity
>>154841666>t.But seriously, if I had to guess it was probably to justify the rising budget. Back then it only cost like 200k to make an episode whereas now it's well over a million
>>154841666
>>154841695whoops, i pasted this over something else i was working on. oh well just ignore the top part
>>154841695Yeah that's the exact image I was thinking about. Minus the pokemon(?) thing at the top but the point is clear
>>154841707KekShare it with the class, anon
>>154841695Do people seriously argue it's a nostalgiafag thing? The bottom is technically the worst despite being artistically better by being so visually clashing with the character art style and going against the show's identity. Yes, some shows do take advantage of clashing art styles and make it work, but South Park was always about its goofy construction art style with some gags like a lot of early celebrities having their real faces copy and pasted on the character models.
>>154841631Pretty much every celebrity reference, plus Shiela doing the Nixon pose and all the foreigners in the mom's a bitch song (immediately canceled today I'm sure). Maybe the mole's accent because you can't have funny foreign caricatures today. There's a guy in the black squadron that says "yousa think people gonna die?" when the war is about to start.
>>154842172None of these are dated, you just want them to get cancelled so you can make a tweet about it. Hell, I bet you're gonna cancel them yourself. Playing both sides, I betcha. Maybe claim Trey sexted you? Hmm? I know your type. You think you're bad when your just a dumb slut.Nasty slutYou need a spanking
>>154842172The Mole might be better received today. French people are one of the few groups everyone is allowed to make fun of. Actually, by having the setting be a redneck mountain town where most of the cast is white stereotypes with the most common minorities being the moralfag jewish family and the levelheaded yet horny black guy, early South Park is less offensive to normalfags than its contemporaries like The Simpsons despite being a more mature show. The only characters I could see causing some kind of stir these days are maybe Starvin' Marvin and Mr. Garrison who are canceled out by Chef and Big Gay Al being positive representation.
>>154842172>>154842395You guys are acting like South Park hasn't already been getting attacked by the bored housewives brigade and other annoying moralfags throughout its entire run. That's even the entire premise of the movie.Didn't stop them back then and I highly doubt they'd do anything different today
>>154836060Well it's not load bearing, but considering it's a musical i'd say it's pretty fucking gay.
>>154838289The signs of deleted/changed scenes there were in the trailer and promo material suggest probably another draft or two that's between 8 and the final product, material-wise.We'll likely never see them though as Tratt consider them not "deleted" but alternate, redundant material and they may be long gone.
>>154836060watched it recently and found it juvenile, sorry lads
>>154842732That's stupid. Besides preserving how the film got made, the deleted scenes gave characters that didn't speak in the final movie some lines like Barbrady.
>>154841956Yeah, some particular SPS BBS guys would argue with people who didn't like the newer style and claim they were just out to shit on Matt and Trey.
>>154842778Big Will had some old interview with editors that worked on the movie claiming there were about 2 or 3 drives of the unused assets and scenes, that they had to change a lot through production. Then years later, Tratt themselves claimed there'd never be a director's cut or extended edition as there were no deleted scenes, just ones with different settings or characters involved.
>>154842565Is it weird that I kinda like it when things or people I like get cancelled by the mob? I don't know, sometimes I just hope it happens. I like seeing people suffer
So long as people are willing to escalate a simple situation to keep from taking responsibility, then it will be relevant.
>>154842843Pathetic
>>154842747That’s good, you zoomie
>>154842843Why specifically people you like? I can somewhat understand people you don't like, but that part definitely makes it a lot weirder
>>154842816Probably another they hate classic South Park excuse. Despite Free Hat, they admitted they would update the movie if they could.
Blame Canada> I Can Change> reprisal medley> everything else
>>154843456Ngl, I make animations on my own and I had Lucas money and power, I'd retroactively change my work tooGranted, I could do that now since I work digitally to begin with and I very well might
Fruitbowl's lasting legacy is his fake "deleted scene" article about a rando girl with a flower on her shirt dying so Kenny could get into heaven, that some SP autists took seriously.
>>154841755it was for Claude play pokemon over on /v/, I was editing this picture of charizard
>>154842565>>154842843People know what south park is and they know it's pointless to try to attack it. There was even the more recent episode about troons competing in women's sports and that really didn't get any flack from anybody who matters.
>>154843480They're basically all great, I don't really dislike any of them. Don't really care for eyes of a child, although I like the joke that it's some gay overly emotional song in the credits that wasn't in the movie itself, which I think was a parody of the lion king's credits.
>>154841446>>154841599It was an attempt to be topical since Clinton just got done bombing the fuck out of Iraq in 1998.
>>154836114A shame they lost the ability to be funny. Outside the Covid special, I can count the amount of times I laughed at a post Season 20 episode on one hand.
>>154839713>MMMM, mm mm mm mm mm mmm mmm mmm mmm mmmmm, hmm mm mmmm m mmmm m mmm mmm
>>154843736It was pretty much a riff of those sentimental Oscar bait songs, yep. Much like those by Phil Collins, who they'd later rage about losing to.
>>154843683I miss my boy.
It's a genuine masterpiece of pro-free speech protest art. Mark Kermode was right when he compared it to Voltaire.
>>154839899Humor is subjective, unlike your pompous tastes would you care for some earl gray with that take.
>>154845266don't worry, I'm working on something
>>154844693>That's right!
>>154846739Clod? On /co/? In this economy?
>>154846830
>>154846853May I see his Gen 2 run?
>>154846856
>>154841666It kind of reminds me of nu Aqua Teen.
>>154836060I actually watched it again just recently, and it really does. It's hilarious. I don't think there's an unfunny joke in the whole thing, and the songs are all bangers.I will say though, and this isn't a bad thing about the movie, but having gotten used to modern day South Park over the last so many years, it's weird seeing Cartman just being a normal member of the core group. Yeah, he's the loudmouth asshole friend, but he's very clearly one of the good guys. If this was modern day South Park, Cartman would probably be the main villain (aside from Satan and Saddam) instead of Sheila, or at the very least, the boys would probably try to direct his evilness in a way that'd be helpful (like when they tried and failed to let him loose on PC Principal in his first episode).Also, you can tell how early it is in the show's history because you see Butters, Token, Craig, Bebe, and Red, but they have no lines, Pip has no lines despite being well established at this point, Clyde was still just "that one random kid that has lines sometimes" (in fact, any time a kid who isn't the main four, Wendy, Gregory, or the Mole speaks in this movie, it's always Clyde), and Tweek is nowhere to be seen (as are, obviously, Jimmy and Timmy). It's kinda weird seeing such major characters in their early days before they became important, or before they even existed.
>>154846901The fact the showrunners of the most recent seasons failed to understand that half of what makes the show funny is the cheap animation saddens me. How could anyone be that stupid or out of touch?
>>154841386Red-haired palette swap of Annie Knitts too
>>154843736>which I think was a parody of the lion king's credits.All the 90s Disney movies (at least all the big ones) had pop cover versions of one of the songs playing during the end credits. "Beauty and the Beast," "A Whole New World," "Can You Feel the Love Tonight," "Colors of the Wind," etc.
>>154841399>>154841666I've noticed that the show's style changed even further in the past few years (since the specials at least), like for the previous 20 years the backgrounds and background objects had this realistic, traced-over outline-less look while the newer episodes frequently have flatter shaded background objects with visible outlines. Perhaps new people in charge of the animation or something
>>154846907The movie was before the Scott Tenorman episode, mind you
OFF TO THE MOVIES WE SHALL GOWHERE WE LEARN EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW'CAUSE THE MOVIES TEACH US WHAT OUR PARENTS DON'T HAVE TIME TO SAAAAAAAAY
>>154848160AND THIS MOVIE'S GONNA MAKE OUR LIVES COMPLETECAUSE TERRANCE & PHILLIP ARE SWEET (SUPER SWEET)THANK GOD WE LIVE IN THIS QUIET LITTLE REDNECK PODUNK WHITE-TRASH KICK-ASS U... S... AAA!
>>154848202Can I have five tickets to Terrance & Phillip: Asses of Fire, please?
>>154848223NO!
>>154842172>the foreigners in the Kyle's mom songits sung by Cartman, the audience (usually) isn't meant to sympathize with Cartman. whatever he's doing is never an endorsement of that view/action
>>154846907Yeah I miss early season Cartman too
>>154849579>>154846907The way the main four have degraded needs to be studied>Cartman is neutered now>Kyle is a boring moralfag>Stan is generic>Kenny doesn't exist>Butters is an MRA
>>154836060Turning Saddam Husseim into Trump in the last season was the second worst retcon they did. The first was apologizing to that corn schucking scheister Al Gore.
>>154846907>>154849579>>154849973>nuuuu starvin marvin das mah pot pie!
>>154850030kenny isn't even in most episodes even when stan kike and cartman are. he had a renaissance and that's over.
Is south park still good, even?
>>154850418Nope
>>154850418I stopped watching a long time ago when they started doing those seasonal plotlines, they were severely lacking in actual comedy
>>154850333>>154850333I haven't watched in a while. Have they done anything with Mysterion in recent memory? I think the last time I remember seeing him was the episode where he and his little sister were taken in by the evil foster parents.
>>154851096Outside of the games, no
>>154836060If you turned all the candians brown then it would.
>>154839918Why do they have the exact same face in this picture?
>>154851486They had souls back then
>>154851351That sucks. I get not wanting to overuse him, but if that was his last episode then I'd say he's about due for a reappearance.
>>154850418The alert for me that I'm in Zombie Park is when I don't see either Chef or Pip in the background anymore.
>>154852315>OveruseThey overuse Butters, Trump and now Randy now. Clearly not an issue for them.
>>154836060It's one of the greatest musicals ever made.
>>154842172>Shiela doing the Nixon poseAnon that was already a 20 year old joke by the time the movie came out, it's basically timeless.
>>154840191Depression, allegedly. She was sad because in her mind her potential had all dried up and thought nobody would want to hire her for anything and most likely had some generic jew schizo thing.Do you play World of Warcraft? She was married to the guy that voiced all gnomes in WoW.
>>154836060Unironically might be my most favorite moviie. At least in the top 3 easily.
>>154849130Yes, but nuance is usually lost on people. They'll get mad stuff was depicted at all even if the point of depicting it was to criticize the thing being depicted.
>>154849579
>>154852649Fair enough, but Butters and Randy are main characters. Mysterion feels more like a special occasion sorta thing.
>>154853530They might as well have him as Mysterion permanently. Without that, Kenny is just>Hurr durr no one can understand him>Hurr durr we barely use Kenny
>>154853615>they've been making "we barely use kenny" jokes since the Michael Jackson episode
>>154852396>PipReplacing him with Butters is retarded. Even moreso now that Butters is an incel
>>154836060swearing is more important than then world war 3. seems like they predicted the future.
>>154853670They literally made the same joke but had Kenny proceed to do next to fucking nothing.
>>154846979Aqua Teen or South Park?
>>154852396>>154853726I still say it was a wasted opportunity to not have Pip and Butters be friends as an ongoing thing. Maybe even have Pip be General Disarray instead of Dougie. They could even have their own series of "we don't like the main four for picking on us all the time" misadventures.
>>154853915Yes
>>154853670I kind of want to see them do another Michael Jackson episode in response to the whitewashed biopic
The Tolkien shit is not funny. I don’t know when they changed his name but on stuff like r/topcharactertropes they think it’s so funny. Woww haha his name was actually Tolkien the whole time bahahaha. STFU. I’m not calling him Tolkien.
>>154853726>>154853947Pip couldn't be General Disarray because being bad and vengeful just isn't in his nature, but I still wish they could have kept them as friends in some way. Just keeping him in a nerdy group with Butters and Dougie when they aren't playing villain would have been fun. The one thing Modern South Park could do to get my attention again in the midst of all the nostalgia pandering is try to reintegrate Pip in some way at least for a few episodes. There are even ways to make it topical with how bad Britain is getting right now with the Digital ID insanity. Do something like having the British do a seance to turn Pip's ghost into the ultimate Digital ID that follows people around and invades their privacy under the belief he is protecting them and tries to be their friends during it only to receive the same harsh treatment he got while alive including from Butters who has become a much different person than when Pip last saw him.
>>154854136They don't think it's funny, they think is coincides with their religion (wokeism)
>>154854147>Pip couldn't be General Disarray because being bad and vengeful just isn't in his natureI dunno, he's got some of that inside of him, given the dodgeball episode. They could've made it so General Disarray was like his Hulk side; normally a nice guy, but when pushed too far... And also he works for Professor Chaos.
>>154854182The truth is even to a borderline saint, the Fr*nch are still the scum of the Earth.
>>154854196Good thing Pip isn't actually French, then.
>>154854136>>154854150Matt and Trey obviously caved here
>>154854136Admittedly, the Token/Tolkien thing is kinda funny as a one-off joke, in the same way Kyle's "My name is not Kierr" line was funny. It's the going back and retconning the entire show's history that's stupid.
>>154854285No, I was saying Pip hating the Fr*nch and being called Fr*nch to the point of unleashing his inner rage is a natural response even from the most friendly person.
>>154854330Oh, that, yes. Very true.
>>154854147>>154854330You're making him too much like Butters now. Pip is a gentleman who rarely actually gets pissed off.What actually needs to happen is Scott becomes the new General Disarray
>>154854396>Pip is a gentleman who rarely actually gets pissed off.I mean, he might change after being picked on for so long, anon. Almost none of the characters are exactly the same as they were in the first few seasons.
>>154854419But you're essentially making him just like Modern Butters
>>154854444Okay then, so keep him nice. Maybe his version of General Disarray is always trying to talk Professor Chaos out of doing evil things, or is just bad at being an evil sidekick, ???, profit.
>>154854472Scott makes more sense. Butters already mentioned him being a potential Admiral Anarchy, after all.
>>154854512Was Scott even a character yet when they introduced Professor Chaos? I honestly don't remember. Didn't he come around much later?
>>154854396The French thing was a joke and something he actually did. I agree that Pip's unwillingness to be bad except under extremely specific circumstances is important to his character. Even Butters as early as Hooked on Monkey Phonics was leading a charge on bullying the homeschool kid. He was never as pure as Pip.
>>154854521Wiki says he first appeared in Elementary School Musical. But General Disarray retired after getting his ass beat. Prof. Chaos needs a replacement>>154854535I know the French thing was a joke.
>>154854521Scott didn't appear until 6 seasons after Professor Chaos.
>>154854583no he also appeared during 2 guys and a hottub when all the loser kids hang out with Stan
>>154854561Should we count Fractured But Whole material? Some of the things they did in it decanonize it like trying to retcon Terrance Mephesto as dead in Mecha-Streisand which goes against both what we have seen in the show up to that point and all material following it. He was made a playable character right after in Phone Destroyer.
>>154850418Matt and Trey lost the plot when they started pumping out the specials and reducing the regular season eps to 6 per season.,
>>154854640No he didn't.
>>154854664Well, Scott is basically classic Butters anyway. Figured they'd get along
>>154854785I'm asking if we should count General Disarray retiring as canon when Fractured But Whole kind of exists in its own canon.
>>154854832I guess non-canon, then. The show never referenced the games, after all
>>154854886The show has had episodes that serve as fun sort of prologue content to the games, but the events of the games after are never brought up.
>>154841399I hate to be the "ackchyually" guy, but it's because the film grain gives it that authentic construction paper look. Every piece of SP media post-Anal Probe was animated digitally, it's just that the movie didn't get digitally rendered for whatever reason.
>>154854919I wish they were, though
>>154855374I mean it'd be fun fanservice but really there's weirder shit that has happened in the show that doesn't get brought up like the Peruvian Flute Band Giant Guinea Pig War
>>154855595Well, we need another game
>>154840191Because Tara Strong was a better voice actress than her.
Screw you guys. I'm going to rewatch it.I think it holds up very well. The music is fun, it feels like a longer episode, and the trash talking preformatory activism will never stop being relevant.
>>154854664>>154854832>>154854886>>154854919I like how there's a vague video game side continuity, like how in the Fortnite trailer they use the Stick of Truth.
>>154843480La Resistance mogs all the ones you mentioned
To this day it annoys me that Stan's Song, Going To Hell, and La Resistance (Mole's Reprise) aren't on the soundtrack. They're not even my favorites, but what good is an official movie soundtrack if it's incomplete?
>>154854664Maybe it's a whole parallel universe
>>154854561The HD episodes retconned Scott's character model into the background in "The Jeffersons", but they do silly things like that and you can tell when the later models don't match with the earlier assets.
>>154853014She had agoraphobia too, according to her husband. I guess she couldn't handle the popularity in a short span.
>>154858725There's a redone soundtrack, score and all. You can find it on YouTube. Playlist should have 60 tracks
>>154859067Holy shit, anon, thank you. I'd seen that before but always passed over it because I figured at best it was the usual 'Hell Isn't Good ripped off of the DVD so it has sound effects' type of "complete soundtrack." This is awesome.
>>154840191she wanted to be with both of them and knew about them being gay for each other. when she threatened to expose them they decided she needed to die by "suicide"
>>154841399PowerAnimator was the way to go. Once they switched to Maya, they just kept trying to elevate things.
Imagine a timeline where South Park's gimmick, aside from the construction paper cutout aesthetic, was the fact that it was actual children saying all this crazy shit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n2e5Z5V7KU
>>154836060https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j2Xnm-C2y4
>>154859313>Tratt get a bunch of little kids and record them saying potty-mouthed things the way Ike's old early lines were tape recorded archived audio of Bruce Howell's son and some other kids
>>154859713He already has Betsy saying stuff like that. Wouldn't be too out there
>>154859313>Imagine -being alive when the first seasons of South Park were airing-
>>154860829Wait I'm retarded never mind.
>>154860829>>154860840For what it's worth, anon, you gave me a pretty good chuckle.
>>154861669Stan and Kyle used to be so cute
Cartman should impregnate Nicole.
