The Korra hate has never made sense to me.• Restored Airbenders to the world.• Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.• Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.• Ended multiple global crises (Equalists, Unalaq/Vaatu, Red Lotus, and Earth Empire).• Created a new Spirit Portal.• Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.• Redefined what it means to be the Avatar in the modern world through empathy, diplomacy, and change.
>>154844586>• Restored Airbenders to the world.That was automatic. not her doing.>• Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.Also automatic>• Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.This invalidates the previous point. Was spirits comingi nto the physical world good or bad?>• Ended multiple global crises (Equalists, Unalaq/Vaatu, Red Lotus, and Earth Empire).She was present while other people ended crises>• Created a new Spirit Portal.Youve milked 1 event 3 times.>• Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.This isnt a good hting>• Redefined what it means to be the Avatar in the modern world through empathy, diplomacy, and change.By failing at these tasks and forcing the regular people to pick up the slack.We werent more permissive of aang. Korra just fucked up way way more. And these "mistakes" arent real. they were plot choices. They decided to make korra a fuck up, and we dont hate korra for that. we hate them for messing up korra.
>>154844586>• Restored Airbenders to the world.By accident.>• Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.Neither humans nor spirits wanted that. They were separated for a reason.>• Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.Which she enabled by listening to her evil Uncle.>• Ended multiple global crises (Equalists, Unalaq/Vaatu, Red Lotus, and Earth Empire).Amon is a fraud, she listened to her Uncle like an idiot and she created the last two threats with her spirit portals>• Created a new Spirit Portal.This destroys republic city and winds up destroying the solar system>• Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.Aang did that>• Redefined what it means to be the Avatar in the modern world through empathy, diplomacy, and change.She strong armed 90% of her problems.
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Korra just plain sucks. They made a girlboss and couldn't even do that right, and thought making her a dyke would make her immune to the criticism.
>>154844586It really is crazy how people saw that korra was locked in this small ass compound her entire life, needing permission from the white lotus just to take naga outside the grounds, & thought she was gonna come out of there being a well adjusted adult
Someone post the "So you're a misogynist" image
>>154844586>Literally her first appearance is bending 3 elements perfectly as a fucking toddler>"I'm the avatar and you have to deal with it"Gee, I wonder why people dislike her
>>154844666The White Lotus don't get enough heat for making Korra a bad Avatar. The whole point of mastering the elements is to become a well rounded person and get to know the world.
>>154844660>girlbossGirlboss is when female character does thing male character does all the time.Avatar has a lot of girl bosses I suppose. Azula. Toph. Katara even.Azula? 14 years old, firebending prodigy. Effective military strategist that ook Ba Sing Se in what? A month? Iroh couldn't do it in over 600 days.Toph? Blind. 14? Master Earthbender that regularly t-bags grown men in a fighting arena.Katara? Literally calls out the sexism of the Northern Water Tribe and fights for her right to be able to bend how she wants. Master healer and world class waterbending fighter, matter of fact in the latest film she has in my opinion the greatest non avatar waterbending feat in the series.Or are these 'girlbosses' okay because they came out when you were a kid and your mind wasn't broken my culture war shit
>>154844666I love Korra to bits and rewatching the series as an adult remains one of the most depressing things I've ever done to myself. 4 straight seasons of "does this powerful young woman deserve any kind of agency over her own life? The answers may surprise you"
>>154844705nigger you don't even know how old Toph is, fuck off you larping faggot
>>154844586Stupid things I've heard this week:1. Korra ignored the evil background music 2. Unalaq is a stranger to Korra 3. Korra didn't master the elements 4. Aang is white 5. Ozai is the strongest being in AvatarAvatar fandom truly is the K-pop fandoms rivalry in stupidity
>>154844757>4. Aang is whitepeople don't even know that the fire nation is based off of imperial japan. Then the retards ask "why don't the japanese like avatar" like it isn't completely obvious
>>154844586>PicBecause she never learned from her mistakes. She just kept making the same mistakes over and over again.>• Restored Airbenders to the world.Accidentally. Not counting that for or against her. >• Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.Again, neither good or bad as of right now. We'll see how it turned out in Seven Havens.>• Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.Only because of Jinora saving her ass. She was about to die.>• Ended multiple global crises[...]Equalists basically defeated themselves as soon as Amon was outed as a liar. The Dork Avatar was defeated because of Jinora, The White Lotus SHOULD have been the ones to end the Red Lotus but were cowards and just imprisoned them. She did actually beat Kuvira though.>• Created a new Spirit Portal.Accidentally>• Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.This is good, but only happened because everyone saw how much of a tyrant Kuvira was going to be.>• Redefined what it means to be the Avatar in the modern world through empathy, diplomacy, and change.She tried to punch all her problems. That was her major character flaw (flaws aren't bad things, but she needs to learn from her mistakes and grow as a person).>>154844660Kill yourself, retard.
>>154844586People deadass saw Korra lose her bending, her past lives, and her physical mobility and they still call her a Mary Sue. Ooh Korra they could never make me hate you.
>>154844586>>154844666Both copied pasted from Twitter.com btwAlso >Satan trips
>>154844683>>Literally her first appearance is bending 3 elements perfectly as a fucking toddler>Perfectly>and she's doing bare minimum shit You people never even watched the show.Also sounds like you haven't dealt with it and never will because your mind can't handle a brown woman being strong.
>>154844666I've always saw Korra as the homeschooled Avatar. Think that's what caused a lot of her problems.
>>154844586A gentle reminder that that Unalaq would never had known about Raava and Vaatu if a certain Avatar didn't piss of a giant owl that had a full Library with knowledge for thousands of years. And he even ended up handing over that person's granddaughter enabling the release of Vaatu
>>154844833Korra was trained to be a weapon from day one cause the world feared another 100 year war. >looks at KuviraHell I'm not even sure if Korra understood money because she was fishing for food at a park in RC.
>>154844586The show was thematically contrarian in a lot of small ways that appealed a lot to the showrunners and a vocal minority of terminally online content recyclers, but didn't do anything for the rest of its inherited audience.Worse than a bad character, she was the protagonist of a bad sequel.
>>154844646>She strong armed 90% of her problems.And the ones she couldn't strongarm got Deus Ex Machina'd for her.
>>154844586She's a girl, brash, brown and eventually revealed to be gay. That it all it takes. That's not saying LoK was a good show, or that it wasn't airing during the beginning lf the Dark Times. But it would've come and gone if it did everything the same but starred a guy.
>>154844810yeah ... you might want to rewatch the cliiphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUjDFm5H27g
>>154844848Enough! ENOUGH! So freakin sick of this both Aang and Korra made mistakes can we stop acting like our characters being flawed is a bad thing? Its really old!
>>154844716Probably why she was a sex addict. It was her way of coping
>>154844789I miss the days when Korra was just this image. She looked like she'd be so cool and interesting.
>>154844877>Smallest of streams of water>smallest puffs of fire>smallest pebblesDo you think kids that are benders don't know bare minimum especially if a paren or parents is a bender?Also she's the Avatar. Bending comes easy. Remember Aang basically leap frogging Katara they started doing shit from that scroll? Is he a mary sue? Of course not because he has a cock so its okay if he does it.
>>154844891She is still cool and interesting if you ignore the rage baiters.
>>154844848A gentle reminder that you just made that shit up, the part about Raava and Vaatu anyway. And if you wanna blame anyone for Jinora's capture blame Korra. She was entrusted by Tenzin to look after his daughter and she failed miserably
>>154844789>People deadass saw Korra lose her bendingAnd then they saw Ghost Aang show up and just give it back to her without her having to learn anything.>her past livesWhich literally meant nothing because a) she could still call on their power to use the Avatar state regardless and b) she never bothered trying to talk to any of them at any point that she might benefit from their wisdom.>and her physical mobility Which might have meant something if we actually had Korra trying to live and adapt to being disabled, but she's only in a wheelchair for all of about thirty seconds in a single episode before going right back to having full mobility so it doesn't mean shit.
>>154844666Actually why was she even locked up to begin with? The Red Lotus is clearly a later retcon explanation because they were making shit up season by season with no overarching plan. Was it literally just to have an "outsider" protagonist and raising her in a box was the only way they could think to do it?
>>154844879Yes I can admit they both made mistakes, but what I won't shut up about is obvious misogyny and double standards. You can't criticize Korra for something Aang did and expect me to smile at you.
>>154844910>breaks down the fucking door>literally pushes and shocks the old men like she's a mouse in a 1950s house wife's kitchen>bending comes easyAang actually had to train and learn the elements as a preteen. Yeah water came naturally to him, but earth and fire were compeltely different. He struggled like hell with earth bending and didn't have too much of an affinity with fire bending.Water bending came easily because it's close to air bending mentally. Water and Air are about direction while Earth is about being direct.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7qNMLXmgwAlso how the fuck does a toddler know how to fucking bend. I swear to god korra fags never watched the original series
>>154844973>redirectionfuck
>>154844757Let's not forget "Korra fucked her whole friend group" courtesy of Tony Goldmark's blackfishing ass kisser Ashley L/Chaistrum1.
>>154844726Notice how anon didn't refute anything I said. >been years since I watched ATLA>google 'how old is toph'>12Toph. Blind. 12 years old. Master Earthbender, that regularly t-bags grown adult men in a fighting arena.Not a girl boss for some reason.Oh I know!She came out when you were a kid and your mind wasn't broken to hate women from the culture war bullshit
>>154844910>Remember Aang basically leap frogging Katara they started doing shit from that scroll? It's pretty much only Waterbending he's shown to pick up that quickly and he still had to be shown how to do first by Katara. You could probably infer that Tonraq showed Korra how to Waterbend but Korra realistically should have no idea how to bend Fire or Earth
>>154844984?A kiss or two with Mako = sex?She never even kissed BolinHeld hands and hugged Asami in the finale, they've kissed in the comics and I'm pretty sure Suyin cockblocked Korra in one panel cause Korra was about to go down on Asami when Suyin knocked on the door
>>154844960Aang was targeted by the fire nation when he was 12. The White Lotus decided to give her combat training since she was young so that if something similar happened again the Avatar might be ready for it instead of a 100 year long war kicking off.
>>154844973>>154844980You made one error, therefore I win./s
>>154844586>Restored Airbenders to the world.Tenzin's nuts and Pema's homewrecking deserve credit. She stole him from a woman that would've been happy having only cats and put his cock to work! They have FOUR kids! And those girls are whores in training!
>>154844586It was just rather mid compared to the 10/10 original.
>>154845021That explains why they provided teachers instead of trusting her to find her own, not why they decided to totally isolate her from civilization.
>>154845057They didn't want her to be Water Tribe Roku. Which kind of bears out, given her Uncle was a machivellian psycopath.
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>>154844586The problem with Korra is that she's got all the worst tendencies of Aang's direction under Bryke when they made ATLA, namely writing the main character to be a static plot device who spins their wheels during the entire duration of the narrative.Aang got away with it because the story genuinely gave him wins that he had to earn (for the most part), even if a lot of his training is rushed or if his emotional story beats are undercooked. And even if you weren't satisfied with Aang as a character, the rest of the cast did heavy lifting in terms of intrigue, internal conflict, and emotional engagement overall.Korra got dealt a worst hand because Books 1 and 2 were written almost entirely by Bryke, who didn't have that much professional experience writing beforehand (most of ATLA's writing was not done by them), and it shows. On top of that, TLOK suffers from serious cast bloat and a shorter set of episodes per season (something that Bryke wanted for ATLA, fun fact). And even if you can look past all of that, Korra's still not a very dynamic or interesting character. She pretty much repeats the same actions for the entirety of the story:>I'm gonna antagonize and instigate!>No, Korra. Don't do that! The bad guy will beat your ass!>I'm gonna do it anyway because no one can tell me what to do!>(gets her ass beat and loses horribly)>WAHHHH HELP ME WAHHHH>(everyone shows up and actually does the heavy lifting/scores the victory)>that's why you should have asked for help Korra, but it's actually OUR fault you acted selfishly to begin with>I got it! I won't make that mistake next time (she does)
>>154845057I think that was more so no one knew where she was at while training. The White Lotus is full of very powerful benders too so having a few of them at a compound in the north pole training the avatar in secret isn't that big of a deal. It WAS to her determent though. It's clear that she only knows how to punch her problems away instead of knowing how to actually talk to people. Korra and Aang famously had opposite character flaws. Aang was a pacifist who didn't want to fight anyone. Korra was a hot head who only wanted to fight everyone. Aang didn't want to be the avatar. Korra couldn't wait to be the avatar.
>>154845146But that bring it back around to why though. The Fire Nation was cool. The Red Lotus didn't exist as a concept yet. Who were they protecting her from?
>>154845164>Who were they protecting her from?It's been years since I watched S1. I'm pretty sure they didn't have a specific threat in mind, but were just paranoid. Again, I think it was to Korra's detriment.
>>154845113There's also the nitty gritty details which make things worse:>Korra's character is built on the illogical premise of a Water Tribe Avatar struggling with Air and spirituality as a whole (despite the fact that Korra has mastered Water and was still raised by her parents who clearly weren't disconnected from their culture) which means her character is inherently frustrating>as a narrative function, Korra doesn't really have a whole lot to do in general outside of fighting, Bryke genuinely don't let her do much outside of literal conflict>everyone is constantly shitting on Korra from the very start of the series despite there being no reason, and even when there is a reason (all of her many fuckups), the narrative constantly shifts the blame from Korra, goes "she was right all along", or pretends like she's not at fault at all>>154845164The retcons in Book 3 are an attempt to make sense of the logical inconsistencies in Book 1 regarding Korra's background except they don't really fix the fundamental problems with Korra as a character in terms of function or design (a broken premise, limited scope, etc).
Honestly I think they raised Korra in a compound because the (((White Lotus))) wanted their MKUltra super assassin, but that plotline got scrapped. Once she mastered air they would have given her the Joo Dee treatment.
>>154844769Fist of Fury was a big hit in Japan and it was anti-Japanese as fuck. Even Takashi Miike mentioned he joined a karate dojo after watching the movie because he wanted to be like Bruce. Maybe nips don't like TLA because they don't need a copy when they have the original at home
>>154845113>>154845191The confusing part is that Book 3 has a single scene where Korra is written to be how she SHOULD have been for the entirety of the story (a levelheaded empathetic hero who has a lot in common with the little guy), but we never really get this Korra ever again!>>154845216Nah, the reason why the White Lotus compound thing exists in the first place is because originally Bryke intended Korra to be a native to Republic City (hence her lack of spirituality and why she acts like a normal person) but got attached to the visual of Korra being an outsider to the industrialized world, especially because it meant they could resurrect the premise of their original pitch for ATLA with the Avatar being an outsider to a technologically advanced society.Except it falls apart because by nature of being an outsider, Korra WOULD be spiritual, so they had to contrive a reason as to why Korra already showed up out of touch except it just makes things awkward because now there's no internal conflict and instead Korra feels more at home within an alien place.And in case you're wondering "why the fuck did they do any of this at all", it's because originally Korra was meant to be an Earth Kingdom Avatar spoiled and raised in the city (with the setting taking place further in the future) but Bryke walked that back in favor of connecting the story more explictly to ATLA.
>>154844586>"If I was surprised at anything, it may have been that it seemed like people were less willing to let Korra make mistakes than they were with Aang."It's almost as if Aang was just a kid while Korra was a grown ass bitch or something
>>154844586The hate Korra gets reminds me of the horror stories I'd hear when TNG came out. OS spergs hated Picard.
>>154844586Bryan probably assumed since people loved the female cast of ATLA they would be okay with Korra. Unfortunately when Korra came out that's when the culture war really came into full swing and everyone soon became a contrarian.
>>154845225https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmACHdTApbY&t=1161shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjl-p7B_o2sATLA is unpopular in Japan because it falls into the cultural uncanny valley. It may look superficially Japanese on the outside, but everything on the inside is undeniably Western (American/Christian). ATLA is like the counterpart to all those fantasy RPG-inspired anime and manga where they're superficially Medieval European fantasy but everyone acts Japanese and the themes are Shinto/Buddhist.
>>154845310Bryke don't really get how to write women and I think they forgot that they weren't the ones responsible for why people liked the female cast of ATLA. >Bryke wanted Katara to be closer to Aang in terms of emotional maturity (pay attention to the Kataang episodes compared to how Katara normally acts)>Bryke originally wanted Azula to be a boy and basically just Fire Nation Joffrey>Bryke originally wanted Toph to be an older teen (or older guy) that Katara would crush on much to Aang's jealousy and envyRemember, Bryke wanted to kill off Ozai in Book One and make it so that Iroh was secretly evil and purposefully training Zuko wrong.
>Korra sucks>Dragon Prince went to shit after season 2Avatar was a fluke or something
>>154844586Imagine being the Avatar who finally fulfills another legendary Avatar's dying wish after centuries of hope... and still having people reduce your legacy to "she lost the past lives."
>>154844586I hate the writers instead of the fictional characters.
>>154845384>We can just create more Tibetan monks broKind of ruins the tragedy of the original series. It was a complete genocide of an entire people, but now we're magically making more?It's so dumb
>>154845310The culture war stuff didn't really take off until S4 IRL, it was mostly just simmering on the net before that.
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>>154844586I seriously don’t even know what to believe at this point.> First, they said the original benders taught humans how to bend. > Then they said some people were simply born with it. > After that, they said the lion turtles gave humans the ability to bend. > Now they’re saying Avatar Sonam had a staff that granted certain people bending.At this point, what is the actual origin of bending?
>>154845402^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Me wishing death on the writer's for S2 of Korra and then never having a plot of her getting the past lives back. That would've been cool.
>>154844833The issue with Korra being isolated and effectively homeschooled growing up is that nothing really comes of this within the narrative. I'm not talking about literal plot points in Book 3, but about Korra's choices and actions within the entire series.Usually a character with a background of being sheltered/isolated during their developmental years goes down something like the Venture Bros or Blast From The Past route where they're exposed to the outside world, struggle with conforming to it (they may be taken advantage of, end up falling into a bad crowd, get exploited, etc), but ultimately end up finding a place within their new home.Korra doesn't really do anything like this. She pretty much takes to the outside world like a fish to water so there's no real internal conflict that can intersect with the actual external conflict of the plot.
>>154845428The Avatar fandom is so dumb. The series itself shows Wan being offered the bending by the lion turtle and then learning to master it with the dragon. Having the gift of bending is different from knowing how to bend; Aang/Korra/benders in general have the gift of bending but to be great at it they still need teachers
>>154845462I think that's mostly because S1 was originally going to be all there was for Korra. We do see her struggle to fit in within republic city in S1, but once the other three seasons got greenlit they did drop that plot line.
>>154844757>Unalaq is a stranger to KorraDefinitely no stranger but I don't believe he's the super-close beloved (I would trust you over my own dad) uncle to Korra Book 2 wants me to think he is. Guy is stated to visit the South Pole every handful of years which doesn't seem like enough time to forge such a bond with his niece, especially with the tension between him and Korra's dad. What's more Korra doesn't seem all that broken up about her supposed dear uncle being wiped from existence at her own hands.
>>154845462In order for TLOK to function as a narrative that you can actually salvage, you're left with two options:>Korra has to be spiritual from the start (which would work as long as we don't make the Airbending struggle a thing) if she's to be an outsider to Republic City and the greater politicking of the world>Korra isn't spiritual because she's a native to Republic City which makes solving the problems regarding spirits and the supernatural a challenge, but she's sheltered in terms of solving the problems of the world outside the cityBryke wanted both options at the same time and the result is what we're stuck with. Korra's background basically has no weight or any sense of push when it comes to her actions. There is no true conflict, not even in S1, so Korra has nothing to do or a reason to do it. And this wouldn't be so bad if S2-4 didn't keep Korra on a constant loop.
>>154845522>What's more Korra doesn't seem all that broken up about her supposed dear uncle being wiped from existence at her own hands.I like my uncles. If they tentacle rape murdered me a hundred and twenty some times. i don't think I'd like them anymore.
>>154845492I'd argue that it's also because Bryke wanted to give Korra a "positive change arc" (think Zuko or Sokka)... which would logically make sense with Korra's intended background. But because of the inconsistencies in said background's premise, Korra's stuck as an awkwardly written device that points in the direction of a positive change arc but her overall function in the narrative is that of a Flat Character Arc.It's schizo/ADHD writing.
>>154844586She's still the worst Avatar.
>>154844586-not her doing, side effect of her fuck up-coexistence, not HARMONIOUS coexistence-she caused the near 10000 years of darkness because she was too stupid to see through unalaq's manipilation.-amon revealed himself, jinora solved like all but one of those.-the portal flooded the world with high ego, powerful spirits. said world being mostly filled with bendingless people.-confederacy of oligarch at best and republic city was founded by aang and zuko, not korra.-people did not like the avatar after her because they lost their freaking homes to VINES and had to "deal with it".
>>154844586>Korra's at fault!>Its Aang's fault!WRONG.It all starts with this dude.
>>154844586I rewatched the first few episodes of Korra and I pleasantly enjoyed them. I think it only goes downhill in season 2.
>>154844586They should animate Yangchen's books so we can watch chuds melt down even harder
>When you want to make your female protagonist seem realistic so you give her difficult challenges to overcome>Except everyone else fights her battles for her and she barely grows or changes as a personAnd that's why real fans hated Korra and why Bryke ditched her to make even more Aang spin-offs
>>154845823It went downhill as soon as the love triangle shit started
>>154845809>fire nation is super weak>help it become stronger to maintain the balanceHe did his job.
To be honest Korra being a failure it's perfect for storytelling to create an interesting world. You can create a fucked up dystopia and get a lot of fun out of it. I invite Korra fans to reflect on the wide range of possibilities offered by a timeline buried in absolute chaos.
What were your theories about Amon before the reveal?
>>154845986That he learned how to seal bending from a lion turtle
>>154844586The big difference is that Aang is a more likeable person so people are going to be more willing to forgive his flaws.Also, Aangs fuck ups are are things like kissing Katara when she wasn't ready. Korras fuck ups are things like destroying the connections to past avatars. Korra just plain fucked up worse than Aang did.
>>154845986I liked the Aang theories even though they were retarded
>>154845983Isn't that what Seven Havens is gonna be about?
>>154845384Korra didn't do shit. Aang was the one that pumped Katara full of pure blood airbenders.
>>154845986>Amon was Yakone>Amon was exactly who he said he was, a man graced by the spirits and sent to bring harmony >Amon was one of Aang and Katara's children who was upset over being a nonbender and became vengefulI kinda liked the one theory that Amon was an actor or some kind of legacy title, hence why his mask is modeled after East Asian theater masks.
>>154845986That he was using chi blocking and it was a consequence of Ty Lee being in the circle of powerful benders after the fall of Ozai. They all looked at that technique and decided they needed to learn how it worked and it's limits. The info eventually got out and Amon's teacher perfected it/was a student of Ty Lee's. Amon used it to as a way to show non-benders could have power over benders and escape the pseudo-enforced second class status within RC.
>>154846105I swear I remember early press release and marketing stuff saying that Book 1's plot was dealing with stolen chi-blocking scrolls/techniques, but I don't know if that's false memories at play or if it was something that was on the table but ultimately scrapped and the media had some access to it.
Why did Korra's friend group suck so hard compared to Aang? Tenzin was cool because he had something unique to offee but did anyone feel like Korra's group was even a fraction as close or competent as Aang's?
>>154846156She fucked all of them. That’s why. It’s less of a friend group and more like a harem
John Avatar wants you to rewrite Korra season 2, how would you fix it?
>>154845351I've never read about those and have no idea if they're true, but that is a shitload of dodged bullets.
>>154846156Korra's friend group sucks because everyone in the Gaang serves a narrative function:>Katara: acts as a mother figure to Aang, a love interest, Aang's Waterbending teacher, bounces off of Sokka and Toph for comedic affect, or clashes with Zuko for dramatic effect, and the group's beacon of hope>Sokka: the comic relief, the strategist and rational thinker, as well as something of an everyman>Zuko: an antagonist-turned-mentor and friend to Aang who goes on his own journey of self-discovery and maturity, and a straight man to the comedic antics of the group>Toph: a mentor to Aang and equally a gag character as much as she is a literal powerhouse, another source of comedy and a needed complementary facet to the Gaang (someone who knows the fancy side of life, but is also very immature and bratty)Nobody else has anything compelling to do in Korra's friend group or anything meaningful in relation to Korra. >Korra already mastered the elements so Mako and Bolin can't teach her shit>Korra's more materialist than she is spiritual so any dynamic with Asami means jack shit and is redundant>because of Korra's schizophrenic writing, she can't have a natural or intriguing dynamic with any of her friends that naturally creates a plot>Book 2 sets a funky precedent for the series in which Korra's friends spend WAY too much time apart from each otherYou can stick any combination of members of the Gaang in a room together and sparks will fly. Put the Korra crew together and nothing rolls off of the tongue.
>>154846193Make it season 4. S2 is red lotus. S3 is Kuvira. Both play out mostly like normal with small changes to make the continuity make sense.S4: Korra's uncle or whatever discovers Raava/Vaatu after the spirit portal in RC is permently opened. That plot plays out mostly like normal minus the retarded shit he does. Then, at the end, instead of Raava getting whipped until all the past lives are gone, Korra is disconnected from the Avatar spirit when Raava is removed from her or whatever and goes into the tree of time and ends up doing the thing Jinora does to the dark avatar who is rampaging in what's left of RC after S3. Raava is reborn, past lives and the avatar spirit are reconnected to Korra, and she and Asami fuck off to the spirit world because RC fucking sucks and the avatar just being around is causing a ton of problems (the Batman/Gotham problem)
>>154846193>Choose between the civil war or the Vaatu crap as the A-plot rather than awkwardly jumping to the latter mid-way through the story>Make Unalaq and Vaatu tragic monsters with nuance to them instead of being two-dimensionally evil
>>154846228Should have made Asami a rich air acolyte or some shit. Like one of those “spiritual” rich girls. Would have helped with the dynamic
>>154846253Korra's friends don't really meaningfully contrast her, there's no conflict! (It doesn't help that like I've laid out in the above posts, Korra's premise is schizo and broken). People like Tenzin and Korra because it's a classic stern grumpy old teacher vs immature dumbass student dynamic.Asami COULD have been interesting (she was originally working for the Equalists and was a secret villain) but knowing Bryke's track record she would have ended up likely being forgettable and stupidly written.But you could still make the character contrasts work if you tried:>being the daughter to a industrialist tycoon, Asami is very spoiled, out of touch with spiritual matters, is a bit insensitive/rude (at the end of the day, she means well), and is used to getting her way by throwing money at the situation or by exploiting corruption in the system>being street kids raised in a dangerous and poor part of the city means Bolin and Mako can be pretty shady, often play dirty, and can be pretty two-faced and duplicitous when they want to be
>>154844705Its so oatethic and retarded how your kind has to make headcanons over how people "would actually behave" when in reality its your kind that acts like that.Its why comics have characters crying and beging forgiveness for how they acted on the show, its why they fire VAs, its why they rewrite Sokka, Katara, Toph and Suki's personalities for the live action, it's why the new season is getting rid of "orientalism" by nuking the setting. In the end turns out that YOUR KIND can't handle the OG show, and that couldn't be made today....and unlike you I don't need headcanons to prove that. >Girlboss is when female character does thing male character does all the time.Very raped reasoning you have.
>>154844871I disagree. Korra would have less defenders. You look at her defenders and see that they are either all waifufags that want to fuck her, or the most annoying kind of misandrist that will defend a woman no matter what.Has her being a dude, she would be hated for the sort of shit she pulled with Bolin/Mako/Asami by the same people that praise her.
>>154844871This shit didn't have a great reception before the gay reveal so I don't think that is relevant.
>>154844586I got no stakes but I never hated Korra, she was pretty alright but it felt like after the first season they didn't really know where things were going so for a bit they just reuse a sorta conflict that did in season 1 and then you have low points like the love related stuff but her being so all over the place was kinda fun. Korra was fun.Despite this, I've accepted that that new trailer will ensure she never leaves the slander trenches for years to come even if the show actually says she was right at some point or that she didn't actually fuck up the world. Being Korra is the call to be the scapegoat for any other problems with Avatar after Aang. At least she has the technically more fun video game
>>154846228>Katara: acts as a mother figure to Aang, a love interestOedipal Complex rising.
>>154844586fucking llm poster
Korra defenders in a nutshellWhy are they like this?
>>154846193>>154846242Make Season 2 into Season 1.>Korra is isolated in South Pole>Tenzin shows up to tell her he has to delay her airbending training again.>Korra gets fed up, breaks out and goes to the Solstice Festival>Runs into Asami and her father, who are meeting with Varrick to do business>Hiroshi suggests Asami take Korra to a pro-bending match where the visiting Fire Ferrets are playing a local SWT team>The festival is attacked by the dark spirit, and the group has to work together to try and keep civilians safe.>Tenzin shows and Unalaq show up and Unalaq tames the spirit.Basically every other major plot point stays the same. Korra trusts Unalaq over Tenzin because Unalaq is family and she hasn't gotten to know Tenzin yet. Unalaq stages a Civil War. Korra works with the others to stop Unalaq's plan. We find out Wan's backstory through some old scrolls Unalaq was keeping (Korra hasn't connected to her past lives yet), we get all the Vaatu/Raava stuff and Harmonic Convergence. Korra gets a glimpse of her past selves just long enough to see the connection broken.Then you go to season two. Korra tries and fails to learn airbending with Tenzin and they get sidetracked with the revival of the air nomads and the threat of Zaheer and the Red Lotus (Korra gets her first taste of the Avatar state when she's poisoned)Season three. Trauma time skip. Korra still hasn't recovered, and has given up trying to master airbending and the Avatar state until Kuvira's war forces her into action.Season four. Now bring back the Amon plot. The rise of the Equalists is the result of back-to-back world-ending threats and upheavals. Hiroshi's betrayal and Tarrlok being a baddie are impactful twists because they've been supporting characters for 2-3 seasons. Asami choosing Korra over her father actually makes sense. Amon taking Korra's bending and her finally learning airbending and then finally connecting with Aang are now huge climactic moments that feel earned.
>>154844986Has anyone asked new fans how they feel about Toph and Korra? It's not like this series stopped getting fans. New people are discovering it every day. Maybe we could ask them how they feel about both.
>>154846357This. Korra only has defenders because she’s a “queer” hot brown girl
i hate korra because she is stupid. stupid characters doing stupid things is the most obnoxious and lazy kind of writing. and every last character in the korra series is dumb as shit. it's not that complicated.
I’ve always found it difficult to defend Korra against someone who hates her because they seem far more informed than I am. It feels like they’ve watched it a dozen times. I also like the show but not that much.
>>154844586the problem was that aang was literally a child, from the past, who knew ALL his friends ad family (except boomie, appa and lemur) were dead, and it was up to him to suddenly reverse 100 years of war.korra had a good family, was raised as the avatar as a kid, and was in her late teens in a period of peace and tranquillity, literally a golden age left by aang.a load of her achievements were incidental, or had most of the heavy lifting already done by prior avatar aang.the hate is overdone, but she was poorly written because they kept getting 1 season deals, and its hard to write well in those circumstances.
>>154846729its because you watched it passively, probably while scrolling your phone.so when she made a shit choice, you just saw a cool fight scene, instead of the 5 minutes of her fucking up 50 years of diplomacy.
>>154846752Second monitor actually. I was playing ffxiv on the main one.
/co/ is only place that still has Korra defenders. Even writers capitulated and made her destroy the world because how shit she is
Guys. Milk is closely related to blood, right? So that means waterbenders can bend the milk out of your titties. Waterbenders can use milkbending.My work is done.
>>154846946Yeah, I saw those rule34 images of Korra milkbending milk out of her own tits
>>154844586Avatar is highly satanic because it promotes the false religion of buddhism and has lesbialas
>>154846156I remember the TLOK lore bible leaked some years back. Korra's Krew had like 2-3 sentences each to describe their character. For comparison, the same document for ATLA had about five times as much description for the Gaang.
>>154844586Korra's best seasons (1/3) absolutely mog the shit out of Aang's best seasons
>>154846959>2-3 sentenced, that’s already too much for Asami, 3 words is enough to describe her
>>154846953I decided to look and someone made an Invincible version. My life is complete.
>>154844586how many mistakes Aang made outside of the whole escape and statis thing that is the start of his redemption arc? How many women did he cuck on his way to save the world? How many spiritual holocost did his short temper caused? Is lying to a tribe of retard for a ball game the same as indoctrinating any born airbender into a literal cult?
>>154846962No
>>154846958Stfu
>>154844660>and thought making her a dyke would make her immune to the criticism.You know damn well that was not the reason why
>>154844586>Restored airbenders to the worldWasn't that Aang?
>>154846972IIRC in her case it just said that Mako liked her and she had money. Nothing about her actual role in the story or what her personality was supposed to be. Really underscored that there were no long-term plans for character arcs or anything.
>>154844772it was so confusing to me why jinora was given all the spiritual focus. season two had the potential of teaching korra humility by having her master air and spiritual stuff properly. if only aang didnt deus ex machina her avatar state and energy bending
>>154844757>I’M A REDDIT TOURIST AND YOU MUST DEAL WITH IT!
>>154846618God she's so hot
>>154844789Kirito got all of that, alongside being stuck on a wheelchair for a whole season.This never stopped him to reach Gary stu status , and just like korra he got better in the end and reached JESUS-Kun status .Gary stu/mary sue are beyond just being overpowered, the universe literally bends for themselves so their choices are retroactively good and praised by everyone, no matter how retarded and reckless they are
>>154846958Take your pills and fuck off.
I had fun with the Lord of War posting Asami got back in the day. But it was completely bizarre how much excitement there was for her character among the audience relative to how she seems to have been a complete afterthought in the writers' room. I get that showrunners can't always anticipate what parts of a show the fans latch onto, but with Asami in particular they were completely out of synch.
>>154844586Not only did she make catastrophic mistakes, she refused to take responsibility for them.As E;R pointed out, Homelander was less egotistical than Korra.
Was there ever a Korra edit of this back when the show was airing? I feel like there should have been.
>>154844705No, girl boss is when you make Gaston with a cunt and insist they're the "hero".
>>154847099>NO ONE GIVES BIRTH LIKE GASTON!
>>154844986We saw Toph easily defeated by things like sand or wood. And she was also called out for being arrogant by the show. She was powerful in her element and powerless outside of it.Korra was overpowered (easily entering Avatar state) and still constantly defeated. She was a Mary Sue powers-wise and a complete jobber plot-wise. Making her the worst of both worlds.
>>154844586My issue with Korra was mostly that no attempt to address her flaws stuck until the final season. It's like they kept rebooting her to factory setting. Hell, they did it literally in season 2. It was kinda annoying to watch her run into the same wall over and over again while the show was like: "Can't you feel for her? She's doing her best here?"I guess it's more an issue with the writing than with the character.
>SEE, HE IS DEPRESSED AND CATATONIC >AND SAD AND STUCK ON A WHEELCHAIR>SEE, HE IS A DEEP CHARACTER AND NOT A GARY STU>YOU DISLIKE HIM JUST BECAUSE HE IS A MALE PROTAGONISTKorra defenders 101
>>154845986Rogue student from the school of Ty Lee. Also, expected it to be a hot woman too.
Korra was so bad that even the writers tried to distance themselves from her and rather than trying for a 5th time to rehabilitate her image they gave up and replaced her with a brown crippled child.
>>154845462Most of the good parts of Korra'a narrative is headcanon by the fans.
>>154844586>Why are people so forgiving of a 9 year old child and not a 17 year teenager. Gee, I fucking wonder.
>>154844586I wonder what happened to the rest of her friend group.>Bolin chilling in an igloo as a throuple with her cousins, end of the world means nothing>Mako starts a MGTOW movement>Asami becomes an Immortan Joe-style warlord>Tenzin turns to alcoholism while his grandkids practice fartbending
>>154844586>Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.She fixed something she had caused by helping her uncle, who is obviously evil.>Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.If anything, she helped the politicians do whatever they wanted; Asami sells weapons, and nobody does anything about it.
>>154847259>Asami sells weaponsDidn't she stop that? I can't recall it clearly but I think she moved her business away from arms dealing.
>>154844848That retarded Unalaq and the Owl thing was so beyond retarded, I can't even describe it."Yes, even though I hate all humans and even moved an entire library to another realm of existence to avoid humans, even the pacifist Avatar Aang, you, who wants to destroy the entire world, you're good"
>>154844666Maybe do something with that instead of fuck all? It is incredible how you goddamn morons post twitter shit like this, watch how the show never does anything with its themes or worse, hand-waves them away, and then talk about how good this show is.Korra is the best written character in her show by virtue of not being a nothing burger of a character unlike the rest of the motherfucking cast. And yet the plot needs to rescue her ass constantly like a repeat of Aang's Magic Rock.But let's be honest. Do you cunts genuinely believe this show is well written?
>>154847300>Do you cunts genuinely believe this show is well written?No, but I believe Korra is hot.
>>154844666Really if anyone should have stepped up to be responsible for the new Avatar's protection it should have been the Fire Lord, not the White Lotus.
>>154845809>"Well, maybe I wouldn't have to fix a broken balance if someone hadn't broken it in the first place.">*turns to look at Wan*
>>154846156I don't even know why Asami stayed on the team after the first season.>Mako cheated on her.>Korra stole her boyfriend.>Bolin was only there because he enjoyed the fact that she was rich.Seriously, there is no credible reason for her to be hanging around with these idiots.
>>154846156Because they were never supposed to be a team to begin with. They were only written with S1's plotline in mind. Tenzin at least had the role of being Aang's son and leader of the new Air Nation, so it was easy for the creators to come up with new storylines for him. The others were so basic in their characterizations it was obvious the creators just did whatever with them.
>>154847393I'm not sure she was even supposed to stick around, she just elicited a popular response from the audience and was kept around despite the writers having no idea what to do with her.
>>154844586>>154844651>>154844705>>154845107I wonder if Paramount is using the same AIbot network IDW is. The timeline of these postings align with Oracle serverbase delays and the Twitter Mirror response is a basic API Oracle shared with AWS/Azure too.
>>154847270>Didn't she stop that?No
>>154847423Oh well. Good for her, she's a breadwinner.
>>154847426Only for Murrlogic with how many forests she cut down to do it.
>>154847143Korra isn’t a Mary Sue, but she is… is there a term for a character who has Mary Sue tendencies and traits but is a complete fuck up? I mean she is a prodigy who got all the elements except air done quickly and air was something she got in the span of what a few weeks? But at the same time she is a massive jobber who gets her ass kicked constantly and never learns.
>>154847472>is there a term for a character who has Mary Sue tendencies and traits but is a complete fuck up?Yass queen slay, or YQS for short.
>>154847472Waste of space
>>154844586The forced romance that hijacked almost the entire first season. That's the reason people don't like Korra. Homewrecking is not a good first impression.
>>154847511We stan a messy bisexual queen.
>>154844586Yikes you fucking tourist, use >>Restored Airbenders to the world.She didn't do that one.>Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.Wasn't anybody that got touched by a spirit horribly mutated?>Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.Which was a problem that she caused by opening the portal in the north pole. So anon this is the equivalent of me shitting on your carpet then getting the credit for cleaning your carpet. >Ended multiple global crises (Equalists, Unalaq/Vaatu, Red Lotus, and Earth Empire).Equalists weren't a global crisis and she did not solve it. Amon deciding to randomly waterbend did. Vaatu was a problem she caused. Red Lotus wasn't global either, they fucked up the Earth Nation to get Korra to show up. And Earth Empire wasn't global either. >Created a new Spirit Portal.Kuvira did that one, not Korra. Also how is that a good thing?>Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.I don't recall her ever doing this, but if she did, lmao how is this good you fucking bot? Do you live under a rock? The only people that like living under a democracy are those that work for the gorbo. Everybody else literally spends the entire time complaining about corrupt politicians and stuff not getting done. >Redefined what it means to be the Avatar in the modern world through empathy, diplomacy, and change.What show did you even watch you retard? Empathy? Diplomacy? Korra was always punch first ask later. And lmao change? Yeah unlike previous avatars, she really fucked up.
I never liked Avatar.Why?>muh gay tattoos glow n'shieetFollowed by...>We're so edgy, woke, and trendy.The entire thing just sucks ass.
>>154847518Only if she's a useful idiot for your agenda. Be on the recieving end of that and every LGBTQuisling will be crying about -istophobia nonstop.
>>154847511It would have been good if it actually led somewhere (That applies to the whole show, really). But Bryke are hacks and their protagonists can't do no wrong (this goes for Aang too). So instead of doing anything with it, like pointing out Korra's cuntish behaviour, they let her get away with it and afterwards have her lez it out with the girl she snatched a boyfriend from.Pretty realistic depiction of a woman, if we're honest.
>>154847527Imma be real with you dog and this might get you down but chicks don't usually hook up with each other after one of them steals the other's boyfriend
>>154847472>I mean she is a prodigy who got all the elements except air done quickly**in thirteen years of constant training under the best people in the world>air was something she got in the span of what a few weeks*several months*
>>154847535I was more talking about the lack of any kind of accountability to the point of absurdity.
>>154847518>>154847511The show turned into a fucking telenovela and I was constantly annoyed at how much time the teen angst about who was taking who to the prom took up. Bryke was pandering to the Zutara-assholes that only cared about that shit. Look at Mako! He was barely a character until season 3 when he stopped being some kind of trophy for Korra and Asami to pass off to each other.He was actually funny and sympathetic when he became the world's most tired man that hated his job.
>>154847524Fuck off, faggot
>>154847536>in thirteen yearsShe was using 3 as a toddler you trog.
>>154845314>ATLA is like the counterpart to all those fantasy RPG-inspired anime and manga where they're superficially Medieval European fantasyJapans westerns fantasy fiction has more in common with the Game Wizerdry and Fighting Fantasy gamebooks than it does any piece of European mythology or Folklore.that's probably why those Shows still do well in Western markets
>>154845547I understand but there should be at the very least some hesitation/regret for our protagonist baked into the script, Tonraq got to have a little scene with his brother trying to get through to him. Just giving Korra one or two throwaway lines would've helped a lot
>>154847143SAO is probably as bad as Korra is and went on for even longer
>>154847576That is not "getting elements done", you retard.
>>154844586>tfw 10 years later and still having to explain to people that Korra isn't good just because she's hot and brownI'm tired bros
/co/ is just bitter she is a lesbian and can't stick their dick in her. Korra has rewritten what it means to be an avatar hell she absorbed both entities of good and evil and reshaped the world. Now humans and spirits will live in harmony
>>154847652Stop coping, soitroon
>>154847639You're right. She's a baddie.
>>154844964>You can't criticize Korra for something Aang did and expect me to smile at you.Aang learned from his mistakes and changed his approach to conflicts (and his role as a Avatar) over the course of his narrative.Korra didn't. Her main antagonist has a more developed motivation for his actions.
>>154847527>this goes for Aang tooYou faggots should really stop saying that. His people were genocided because he ran away, he tried to skip to friebending and hurt Katara and his own confidence in the process, he blamed Toph for Appa getting stolen and he lost control of the Avatar state multiple times, making him fear it.Aang made several mistakes with long-term consequences that were unfixable or he had to fix himself. The only issue was the dragon turtle cop-out at the very end of the show. And that may have been fixed if Bryke thought of Wan at the time and Aang learned from him that the bending potential was gifted to people by Dragon Turtles and sought one instead of it appearing randomly. It would still be a cop-out, but not as bad of a one.
>>154847661>baddieMore like baddie-vatar amirite
Has anyone extracted all of the Gallery Mode artwork from Avatar Legends: The Fighting Game yet?If so, would you mind sharing it with?
>>154844683Why do Americans hate this?In other countries characters being exceptionally talented is considered cool and frequently seen as a requirement for an action hero.
>>154845406The point in Korra is that the new Airbenders don't really adopt and have difficulty assimilating Airbender culture. It's why in S4 they're basically an auxiliary world police.
>>154845986This never made sense because how the fuck would Korra even exist.Though I remember seeing a theory that she wasn't the Avatar, which is why she sucked at it and couldn't Airbend, but was just an "exceptional bender" who had access to three elements for some reason.
>>154847661The 1st season love triangle really turned me off on Korra, no matter how hot she is.
>>154845276>it's because originally Korra was meant to be an Earth Kingdom Avatar spoiled and raised in the city (with the setting taking place further in the future)This would have made a lot more sense. The world felt like it advanced way too quickly. Korra having another Avatar between her and Aang would have been better for the setting. Then that water bending Avatar could have been credited for the modernization of the world instead of Aang.
>>154847714korra isn't even top 3 in her own show
>>154846156I liked Korra and Bolin's chemistry in S1 until she kisses Mako in front of him. Korra and Bolin would have been a better couple. Mako always felt like the worst one in the group for me, although Bolin also became shitty after S1.
>>154847776Korra + bolin and mako + asami was the only way to maintain a healthy group dynamic. Asami + Bolin could work but works just as well as a friendship but korra + mako is just a toxic version of opposites attracting that only works as a fling. Korra + Asami just has nothing to work with.
>>154844586Did you get AI to write this?
>every Avatar ever since TLOK premiered
>>154844586Lets be honest Korra is just a rapemeat porn woman. Nobody ever fucking wanted her personality, just her body on a sketchbook
>>154844586>people were less willing to let korra make mistakes than with aangaside from the mistakes not being exactly the same, personality goes a long way. people are and should be willing to accept mistakes and growing pains from a pacifist and peace maker character exploring the world and being imperfect. but with korra she was headstrong and a hard ass about it as well as the mistakes being more severethis would be less of a problem if korra was a more kind person and not as abrasive, and if they themselves contained how to make interesting and serious mistakes while not "destroys all avatars forever" tier shit
>>154847835Not that I think Bolin's a prize catch or like her one that got away or anything but it's funny how much she's goofing off and having fun with him here, contrasted to beginning of S2 where the shine's worn off of Mako and they can't help but bitch at each other in the middle of that festival.
>>154848004Arguably bolin is the one that dodged a bullet there, but the main reason why he would have a better chance with korra than mako is because he would be a lot more forgiving whenever korra had one of her outbursts, while korra herself would have a much easier time dragging him around whenever she needed him.
>>154848004>>154848074I never cared for Bolin and Opal. Felt like the writers just wanted to give everyone a relationship and threw Kai and Opal in as consolation prizes for the remaining cast.
>>154844586>Restored Airbenders to the world.She didn't do that, Tenzin did. She 8nstead fucked uo a bunch of people by making them benders all of the sudden >Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.Except the fucked up by doing it in the middle of the city, where yhe good spirits and the violent ones fucked everything up>Saved the world from Harmonic Convergence and 10,000 years of darkness.Retarded retconn. Also, she caused the Dark Avatar>Ended multiple global crises (Equalists, Unalaq/Vaatu, Red Lotus, and Earth Empire).That's her job, nothing to brag about>Created a new Spirit Portal.No need for that, jsut fucked shit uo for the future>Helped usher in democratic reforms across multiple nations.Irrelevant, she just stuck her big fat nose in politics>Redefined what it means to be the Avatar in the modern world through empathy, diplomacy, and change.And redefined the entire Avatar history by deleting every single one of her past lives
>>154846193You fix a lot of the entire show by making the Red Lotus the overarching antagonist throughout the seasons. The biggest issue they had was needing to come up with a new threat every season, and S2 had too much with the civil war nonsense and vaatu. Like this anon pointed out.>>154846246I also don't understand why the writers felt they needed to destroy Korra's past connection. Feels like misery porn and didn't really evolve her character at all. I'm mixed on the Vaatu and Raava stuff as well, I don't hate it, but there was 0 development for it in the previous season/show and definitely felt shoehorned in. Also less Jinora. She was annoying being the messiah who knew everything in the spirt world and saving Korra and Raava out of nowhere.
>>154848088If that were the case they wouldn't have left mako all by his lonesome. I think they just wanted to add bolin to the beifongs because they went too far in that family's drama and they needed a cinnamon roll to soften them
>>154844666This Anon is right. You can't make a monster and then be surprised when it steps on a few cities.The White Lotus set Korra up to fail from the fucking jump.
>>154848164Mako's entire character was just being in a relationship with Korra or Asami, it is amusing he ends up alone in the end.
>>154848136You sound lame
>>154848161Yeah, I feel like if you combined the ideas of the Red Lotus with the Equalists somehow and maintained them as a constant threat it would have worked a lot better than jackknifing from one threat to the next every season.And yeah, Jinora's shit got real old real fast. I'm fine with Tenzin's kids growing to play a bigger role, but I feel like you needed to divide up their contributions instead of dumping it all on Jinora. Have Jinora be the know-it-all who gets into scrapes, let Ikki be the one who's attuned with spirit stuff, and make Meelo less... Meelo.
>>154848004I feel like the date with Bolin was one of the only times we saw Korra genuinely happy in the show.
>>154848181Mako had a very genuine brotherly dynamic with bolin, and was interesting to watch when he was investigating a conspiracy. He was done dirty by season 4 forcing him to babyseat the prince instead of having him become a film noir private investigator. The two brothers also needed a flashback episode showing how far they have grown since the time they were street kids.
>writer of the new Kya comic said Nick shat up her script and if you consider buying the comic you should do it for the artwork insteadOuch.
>>154848285Was there a single more pointless and obnoxious plotline in Korra than that retarded prince arc in S4?
>>154848235At least it's consistent with her many other fuck ups to self-sabotage in her attempt at trading up.
>>154848164>saddling Mako with even more relationshitMy boy is finally free. And judging by how bossy Opal is, I never got the sense that her and Bolin were gonna last. She was barely better than Eska
>>154847614Counterpoint.Shit Art Online was his own shitty franchise and never plagued anything else.Korra plagued Avatar’s franchise to the point the lore got fucked, the past avatars too and now the new avatar in the sequel (the cute pajita with peg leg) has to deal with the incoming bullshits introduced by Korra.
>>154844631It also helps that when Aang fucked up, they didn't sugarcoat it or deus ex machina a way to avoid any consequences of his fuck-ups, he generally had to actually suffer the consequences.
Show should have just leaned into her being a lovable meathead. But despite her clear record of fuck-ups based around rushing into every situation without a single thought in her noggin', the show had the gal to pretend that she wasn't a moron.You can't have it both ways. If you have a character that constantly makes stupid choices, the show needs to acknowledge their retardation at some point.
>>154844789She lost her fucking bending for half a fucking sneeze
>get with girl>cheat with brother's girl>both girls and your bro are now calling you shit>smooth things over but nothing is ever the same>despite being a well connected handsome lightning wizard you end up sad, tired and aloneLegendary fumble on Mako's part.
>>154848477He's living in Korra's world. He'll never be free.
>>154848587Korra was the one throwing herself at him If anything Mako is going to be know in history as the guy that fucked both Asami and Korra.
>>154845351I kn ow the Toph one is accurate because in the Ember Island episode where they poke fun at the series in retrospect, Toph being played by a giant buff guy was a joke about her original design.
>>154848617>Korra was the one throwing herself at himAnd Bolin and Asami blamed Mako. It might not be fair but the fact remains.
>>154847053Now this is what a real Korra defender looks like.
I want to chime in but an appeal to Aang was that every time he bended a non-air element, I saw a reflection of his teachers. The personalities of his teachers bleed into his bending.Korra doesn't have that.
>>154845384Sonam was a retard - she created a staff that corrupts you with dark power, had time to seal it away, but left no proper instructions for that or that Tagah was evil, and become uncontactable because "muh shame"Also the whole "Airbenders at their peak were the world police" bit is terrible. Shoved into the lore just to justify it happening it book 4 Korra.
>>154848526>they didn't sugarcoat it or deus ex machina a way to avoid any consequences of his fuck-upshow did they "sugarcoat" any of Korra's fuck-ups? She kept the spirit portals open and it made the people of republic city genuinely hate her.
>>154847712she could have been a "three quarters Avatar", something in the rebirth process got fucked up, which is why she couldn't airbend as Aang was 'holding on' to it or something.
>>154847692Because people realized that was a shit way of storytelling after the Superman golden age. Having a god character just effortlessly wank through everything is boring and stupid.
>>154848617>the guy that fucked Korra and AsamiDoubt it, since Mako becomes a forever alone police officer like Lin and in the comics had to be the friend forced to be supportive of his two ex lesbian relationship if he wants to stay part of the group
>>154848074>korra herself would have a much easier time dragging him around whenever she needed him.This is exactly why they weren't a couple. Korra doesn't want a partner like that. It's why she was never interested in him in the first place. He's just a good friend.>>154847916>this would be less of a problem if korra was a more kind person and not as abrasiveSo if she were more like Aang? But that's boring. The whole point of Korra was that she was different from Aang. They were practically polar opposites in terms of attitude and personality, and each was saddled with a responsibility that would have been more suited to the other because the world wanted to force the Avatar into being the weapon they wanted, instead of letting them grow, organically.I think a lot of people also gloss over how big a part Korra's upbringing plays in things. She found out she was Avatar when she was even younger than Aang, and she was basically conscripted into military training becaue everyone was living in fear that another Ozai/100-year-war could start any second, so they wanted a fully-trained Avatar ASAP. Unfortunately, this only helped feed the aggressive parts of Korra's personality, while she was effectively locked in a military compound, devoid of any spiritual training or proper socialization; both things Aang was practically drowning in.As Avatars, Aang was a leaf when the world needed a rock, and reactively, Korra was trained to be a rock when she needed to be a leaf. All of this is actually competently established and discussed in the show. Most people were just too busy being angry that Korra wasn't perfect because female characters aren't allowed to be flawed or abrasive to the same degree as males.
>>154848786Nice coping
>>154848793Thanks, you too.
>>154848786>So if she were more like Aang? But that's boring. The whole point of Korra was that she was different from AangWe never saw Aang run out into a farm and start shoveling cow-hybrid shit into his mouth and eat it. Should Korra have done that to be different than Aang?
>>154848735This sounds retarded.
>>154844631>That was automatic.No it wasn't.>Also automaticNah. Especially since people specifically blame her for doing it. You can't have it both ways.>This invalidates the previous point. Was spirits comingi nto the physical world good or bad?Irrelevant. Listen to her chat with Iroh in the spirit world, and this time turn your brain on.>democratic reforms >This isnt a good htingNow you're just trying too hard.>By failing at these tasks and forcing the regular people to pick up the slack.That's the whole point of the Avatar series. Despite his powers, Aang always relied on his friends. It was when he tried to do things alone that he failed the hardest.Stop being a violently dumb misogynist with zero media literacy.>>154848897>doesn't understand what "opposite" meansYeah, definitely not beating the "dumb misogynist" accusations.
>>154848705>I saw a reflection of his teachers. The personalities of his teachers bleed into his bendingYou're genuinely autistic.
>>154848721I still think it made 0 sense that all Airbenders were genocided and every single living Airbender was a nomad. There should have been non-nomad airbenders living in the world and some should have had the wherewithal to escape and go into hiding. Surely the Fire nation wasn't large enough to simultaneously attack all the temples during the commet and exterminate them all.
Isn't it fucked that bending is tied to genetics for such a spiritual series?
>>154848931Ho back, soifag
>>154848826Faggot
>>154848945Yes. My problem with Korra is that it doesn’t allow that kind of autism.It’s not fun.
>>154849016Didn't Zaheer prove that that's not necessarily the case?
>>154844666My problem is she doesn't actually feel like someone who grew up in seclusion, raised by a bunch of old masters to be an important figurehead. She's just a generic jock girl who kinda has expectations placed on her but no one takes them very seriously unless they're trying to trick her into doing something.
Korra should have spend more time getting captured and tied up in more erotic poses
>>154848004I will always maintain that if they had simply cemented Borra as the OTP from season 1 and focused more on storytelling and fight scenes and less on relationshit this could have easily been a great series to rival the ATLA.The only real course correction they ever did was changing her retarded hairstyle. But everything else was fumble after fumble.Although it was kinda funny in a meta sense that nice guy funny man Bolin was never even considered as a serious romantic interest by Korra despite putting in effort and having great chemistry with her.
If we had gotten swamp Korra we'd never be having these arguments
Korra fags are going to be insufferable when the new Avatar show reveals that the Spirit World genociding humanity was actually a good thing.
>>154849179Well yeah, one the hated things about Korra is that she's a homewrecker slut who took advice from top homewrecker slut Pema.
>>154849193You bet I'll be.
Having finished off the movie a few hours ago, I thought it could have been a 8/9 out of 10. Animation was of course fantastic, no comments on that, but there was one scene which really left a bad taste, and reminded me so much of Korra.The Gaang should have been WAY more mad at Aang after they all almost died. There was no grit in them, no instinct of self preservation or interest. I get Zuko was on board because the Fire Nation caused the genocide, but above all, Katara should have given Aang a lot of shit about what happened, both for loving him and for his role as the Avatar in the world.But there was none of it. The story had clearly been setting some internal conflict between Aang and his mission as the Avatar, and also unresolved issues between him and Katara. She very obviously understands he is the Avatar. She is happy about it, and happy at what he has accomplished. But she makes the comment in the beginning of the movie wishing they were spending more time together. And the Katara in the original show would have stood her ground on this. Naturally she would do it in a more mature way, likely calmer too, but this conversation just didn't happen.TLDR: Aang got the Korra treatment this movie, and he's lucky we like the original show and the movie is gourgeous
>>154849193>erm sorry sweaty, the show says korra isnt bad so she isnt
>>154849205Pema was an Alpha Stacey giving advice to beta Becky Korra far beyond her power level.Pema did nothing wrong. Single handedly helped undo the air bender holocaust while career focused Lin was too busy playing cops and robbers to put out.
>>154849193The insufferableness will continue until show quality improves
>>154849205If she actually took Pema advice she’d be pregnant with Mako child before season end
>>154849179Anything that simplifies the romance of the first season would have been a positive change. The main plot suffered because of it, and the cast deservedly got a bad rep out of it for being a bunch of backstabbers lol
>>154849287Pema understood that the best way to lock down a man was to get him with the old baby trap. Works like a charm, keep him committed through guilt and sense of duty.
>>154849179That same non-serious romantic interest got the affection of a Water Tribe princess and a Zaofu heiress. Even if you wanted to be pessimistic and argue those aren't great or wouldn't work out, I think it's shown that Bolin's capable enough to find someone right for him eventually.Mako meanwhile flitted between the Avatar and a sugar mommy CEO and couldn't hold onto either of them.Total silly guy victory.
>>154849289>>154849179Bryke had the chance to round out the Team by adding Tahno as the water bender. Tahnorra would have really made for a good enemies to lovers arch.
>>154849399Mako was punished for dating lesbians
>>154849260Frankly, it was a missed opportunity to give some three dimensionality to the romantic relationship between Aang and Katara, which is as important to who Avatar Aang is as his role as the avatar.Similar issue we have in Korra and it's romances
>>154849193The new show already looks like shit, who cares?
>>154844666Being so isolated in a structured society would make her unwilling to deal with people and more subservient to authority, not make her more likely to attack people and be disobedient. So how she was raised should have given her the opposite personality. >>154845191An Earth Avatar struggling with this would make sense. For Korra they needed to link this problem to how she was raised, such Korra undergoing such rigid training that it makes it harder for her to connect with an element about freedom. However that would mean Korra couldn't be rebellious.>>154845276Korra being an Earth Avatar makes much more sense based on how stubbornly she acts. However they wouldn't have been able to make her a brown Avatar as the Earth Kingdom was shown as being pale-skinned.
>>154844973Huh, Air being the element of freedom explains why Korra had such struggles with mastering it. She was raised isolated in compounds all her life
>>154844586Most of those conflicts were by her fault or by accidente.
>>154844586Bryke is making threads instead of working on the new show?
>>154845986People made up a bunch of theories.>>154846300Or the Equalists and criminal gangs are working together. That would result in Asami meeting Mako and Bolin.
>>154844666every single decision the writers made for this show fucked it from the start.The white Lotus should NEVER have done this, Korra never should have been a brat, Aang never should have founded Republic city.
>>154848164All this shit was yet another nothing burger of a plot. Literally all empty drama resolved with an hand wave. It's incredible how having less episodes than ATLA they manage to squander time again and again for no payoffs. One would believe LOK was being handled by new people with no experience if not for the credits.
Choose your fighter
>>154845384He did it in the 'realistic' way. >>154847023
>>154844586SHE BROUGHT BACK THE AIR NATION IS WHAT SHE DID. SHE WAS A BRAVE SOUTHERN WATER TRIBE GIRL. AND IN THIS HOUSE, KORRA IS A HERO. END OF STORY
>>154845522Tonraq, Tenzin & the white lotus locked Korra up since she was 4 & for 13 years lied that it was Aang's idea. If you think Korra shouldn't have trusted Unalaq who exposed the truth & promised to help her to overcome her problems caused by that isolation you are worst than evil.
>Has multiple chances to kill the Avatar>Doesn't>Loses
>>154844586"Korra should listen more">listens to a highly praised spiritual guru who told her about the spiritual crisis a 10k years old issue. "She shouldn't have listened to her own uncle and listen to two people who lied to her the entire time"
>>154850133That's not Zuko>Record scratchThat's not Azula
>>154850168At least the Fire Nation had a reason to not outright kill Aang until they finished their world conquest.
>>154849437It is odd how much time his character was given. I wouldn't have been against him joining the group.
>>154850208Did they ever explain what the Fire Nation's long time plan was? Legit asking, I might have missed it, but did they just plan on keep killing the Avatar forever until they got ont of them in Avatar State for some reason?
>>154850208Lol what?>kill aang>new avatar is a baby so won't bother us for a while and we're on the end of the war here
>>154849179If you have bolin - korra settled you can have asami actually be an equalist spy as originally planned and make the drama about mako convincing her to go against her father. Honestly it's just a win win for every character involved.>>154850208So did amon, he was trying to rally people to his cause. If he starts killing people left and right, then he would lose the support of the average person.Well he really should have gone for the kill when he realized korra knew he was a psychic bloodbender but that's just plot convenience for you.
>>154850251It is never stated, but I imagine they would've probably eased up on the Avatar hunting once they reached world domination, since that would be almost impossible to undo.
>>154850037/thread
>>154850343>Well he really should have gone for the kill when he realized korra knew he was a psychic bloodbender but that's just plot convenience for you.Also, after she threw him out the window, he didn't need to waterbend back up in front of everyone, could have just swum up and continue pretending to be a non-bender so his people would stay loyal.Amon's IQ points really dropped in that one episode in specific.
>>154850274The new baby would have been born in the Water Tribe, and the Fire Nation would have needed another few decades or so to wipe out the Northern Water Tribe's benders, evident by the raids starting when Hama was a young woman and ending when Katara was a child. Conquering the Earth Kingdom would have shaved maybe a decade or so off, but it still would have taken enough time for the Avatar to have been reborn and trained in Waterbending.
>>154850343Amon could have just killed Korra in secret. Hell, if he were smart about it, he could have spun that as a point for the equalists. Korra hadn't really done anything to warrant public sympathy enough for people to want to martyr her, and "we can take down even the Avatar" would have been an undisputable display of power for the Equalists.
>>154845375Creative types often need someone else to tardwrangle them, and it even works if the other person is also a creative type that needs tardwrangling. You see, the reason this phenomenon exists is because idea guys/writers have a bad habit of overvaluing their own ideas, since ideas feel so much more exciting when you come up with them yourself. If you have someone to bounce your ideas off of though, you get a much more objective perspective from the other person, and thus you can discard or refine your ideas into something better which you wouldn't have even thought to do otherwise. This is why every good book needs good proof readers, since otherwise bad ideas will go unchecked.
>>154850168Azula killed avatar first chance she got, Amon let Korra go without even raping her
>>154845375Literally, yes. I hold to the belief that the Last Airbender was only good by accident, and they have no idea how they did it, which is why everything the franchise released after has been shit.
>>154847472An Anti-Sue. Which is still a type of Mary Sue because everything warps around them.
>>1548499592016 and 2017 design was peak. That retarded pony tail hairstyle needed to go and stay gone
>>154850153>...and I shall become...>A DARK AVATAR!!!This scene alone caused a global cringe hyperinflation that lasted several years.
>>154850598This felt like they were writing fanfic of their own show.
>>154850614it's something 12 yo will make up while playing as avatar>Im the avatar>okay, then I am...a dark avatar!!!
>>154850631Between this and "The natural order is disorder", was this show actually written by 12 year olds?
>>154850654It was written by a duo of mentally 13 year old middle aged men who didnt hire any editors or people to tell them>no that sounds stupid do something else
>>154849437
>>154850684Oh come on they had a few good jokes>>154850692LoL
>>154850598>Eso el fin, Korra
>>154845351Straight from the Art Book.
>opened the Spirit Portal>Causing the Crisis she had to fix in the first place>could have closed the Spirit Portals at any time but said "Nah I don't wanna be the bridge anymore.">literally caused a Global Catastrophe that nearly wiped out all benders and forced all of humanity into 7 havens Holy fuck it just gets worse!
kek remember that BLM post by bryan on instageam
>>154844586Female characters have to be PERFECT but then they just call you a Mary Sue. Can't win, its just sexism. Unironically.
>>154851099Boomhauer-ass Zuko
>>154851750No
>>154844586What I really hate about Korra, specifically the story, is how every villain starts out interesting and somewhat justified, but then is suddenly turned into a mustache-twirling supervillain.With Amon starts out as a non-bender equal rights activist and becomes a supercommunist kill all bending style faggot. Then with Unalaq it starts with an interesting Water tribe civil war plot and devolves into him becoming the Satan Avatar who wants 10,000 years of darkness for no particular reason. With Zaheer he was better than the others at least, but his justification for wanting to end the Avatar Cycle despite the fact that the Avatar usually keeps tyrants in check was very absurd.And then with Kuvira she starts as a someone who just wanted to restabilize her crumbling home nation, and then it turns out she's literally Earth Hitler with concentration camps and everything. At least with Fire Hitler it was more believable since he was born into a family of sociopaths that encouraged that mindset, but with Kuvira it feels too forced.
>>154849027Says the guy that dislikes the idea of not being a cuck to the state
>>154844586She destroyed the world and the avatar cycle, you dumb motherfucker.
>>154849275Very true, if Tenzen had married Lin it would have been another Katara situation, he'd get maybe 1 Airbender child, and the rest Earthbender/Benderless.
>>154852668That's more of your style
>>154851750There is a difference between having flaws that you overcome and grow from. And flaws that continuously get piled on and lead to no growth that eventually just makes your character an unlikeable writers punching bag.
>>154852548Bryke seems cursed with having good ideas and not being able to execute or explore them well.
>IM THE AVATAR YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!
>>154844586>Shitty hero>Brown>A chick>Full of feminism tropes>A dyke (Because Politics for the Lulz)Gee, its almost like she's unlikeable in every possible way imaginable.
>>154852920I think with need a name for creative leads who cannot be trusted with execution, only high levels arcs, concepts, big picture. Like George Lucas
>>154844586When Aang fucked up he was 12
>>154853333Ideas guys
>>154852939They really should have gone with the original premise and made Korra an Earth bender 2 cycles after Aang. The water bender in-between could have handled all the stuff adult Aang was shown to do, just make them a blood bender in lieu of energy bending.
>>154853035And the poo avatar looks even worse.
>>154849959I forgot how they nerfed Korra's tits
>>154853367112*
>>154853473Nope
>>154844586They've never watched the show, OP. They just parrot talking points they've heard over the years. When LoK was airing this board loved it. Shipped Korrasami in S1. Now the political landscape demands they act like right wing tards to own the imaginary trannies in their mind
>>154853534Shill
>>154849959Any of them but 2016/17.
>>154853541It's weird how much hate Korra is getting, i think it's an effort to make the new poo avatar more acceptable. Everyone knows TLA is the superior show, but Korra was still fun, even with the show's faults.
>>154853546No
>>154853541Nice delusions
>>154850153She should have listened to Wan's story about how Vaatu was now trapped in the spirit world and that both portals were sealed for multiple reasons. If she stopped after the first portal and then went to go watch probending matches until after Harmonic Convergence then nothing world ending would have been on the cusp of happening.
>>154853623>Shitty heroKid is like 8 and already looks like a shitty(lol) hero and character >BrownLiterally shit>A chickCheck>Full of feminism tropesHas a retarded peg leg handicap to maximize the DEI>A dyke (Because Politics for the Lulz)A poo because politics for the lulz
>People don’t like Korra enough>They like Aang too much>well, let’s bring Aang down to prop Korra up>then we can use the new series to show that hey, Korra didn’t ruin everything, she actually fixed it!!Anything to prop up Poochie.
>>154853659Nice seething
>>154853766>no rebuttal Thank you for proving your shill status. Nobody likes your new poo avatar.
>>154853541Let me stop you right there buddy because ive been here since the beginning. People were excited for korra the first few episodes and went wild speculating on what grand adventures she would have and who is amon, etc. It was a gradual souring that culminated in the asspull ending that made people start to hate korra. Fans were already dropping off by season 2 but many people still had hope that Bryke could turn things around, and boy were they ever wrong. S2 was like the point of no return for most of the fanbase. Where the majority either stopped watching or watched to hate on it. But after S2 the series never really recovered and getting banished to the sadow realm by Nickelodeon wasnt exactly unwarranted considering how badly they tanked their own viewership.This is not an issue of people were racist against Korra from the beginning. No. People gave the legend of Korra chance after chance to try to like it, mostly riding on nostalgia from the previous series. But there is only so much disappointment people can take before they give up on something and thats what ultimately was the shows problem. It was consistently disappointing.
Am i too late to make my point?The nucleus of the shows' failure is thus: they forgot to make Korra Genki.Plenty of other things came out wrong so it's a complex issue but it all begins with this one fact, it all grows from this potent yet simple dissatisfaction in the viewer. Annoying bitch girl characters are totally fine and everyone loves them as long as they have a cute side to balance it out. The writers just forgot and wrote her incorrectly. Korra acts anxious, angry, respectful, determined, sad, afraid, serious, depressed, at peace. She's rarely depicted as happy, lighthearted, endearing or whimsical, when she cracks a joke it's just a momentary gag. Then right back serious avatar business big responsibility.I see a great disconnect between canon Korra and fan Korra.
>>154853937>umm, acksually having your female hero act silly, whimsical and “genki” as you describe it is rooted in misogyny
>>154853901>But after S2 the series never really recoveredS3 is pretty much agreed upon as being the best.
>>154853901This guy's got the historical truth. Don't let yourself get Dark Soul'ed 2.The hype was insane when it came out because it had been building up since the announcement with this famous image.By the end of S1 people almost done, one more chance or else. And then..pacific rim.
People give Aang a pass because he was an orphan little kid that got unfrozen 100 years later and had to train with kids as his teachers. Korra was privileged, was raised like a Queen and trained with the best teachers.
>>154853961What? Can you disprove that fan Korra is a genki smug tomboy in opposition to show Korra?
>>154854027It’s a joke
>>154853967This. People actually liked Season 3. But let's be honest, Zaheer and the red lotus hard carried it. Then season 4 crashed and burned everyone that dared to hope.
>>154844586Its funny how anons always complain about little kid Korra's "I'm the Avatar you gotta deal with it" but then they'll turn around and perform fellatio on Toph. The two have the same damn attitude.
>>154854066I ended up getting the joke but i didn't laugh. I came here to argue.In short it's really about Korra not acting cute enough and i'm not projecting. It's my external observation of (You). Her character is what matters to most to you and if she'd been the muscly tomboy everyone imagine her to be, you would have forgiven the boring dialogue i guarantee you that, even the lore shittery would have been passed off as a "questionable new direction for the setting".
>>154849179I like her with her hair down.
>>154853967And once they lost most of their viewers it didnt really matter. Yeah by season 3 they started trying to make adjustments because even they saw that things werent going well but it was sadly a case of too little too late. The fundamental problems were still there. They were still wasting time on relationshit drama, still making the season villain self contained, still dropping the ball with interesting ideas that get poorly executed, and so on. Whats really going to be the sign whether they learned anything or not will be how the next show plays out. Even with how poorly theyve handled things lately I will still give them the benefit of the doubt and check out Avatar Seven Havens but already I have doubts.
>>154854171Aha! That's because Toph is cute and endearing, and happy to be Toph. She's fu-un. That's the WHOLE difference.
>>154854171Nice deflecting
>>154854265Me too. They should have made that the default from the beginning. How they decided against it when looking over the multiple variants of the concept art for her is baffling. Its like at every opportunity they had to make a direction choice they chose the second best option.
Korra's not happy to be Korra and transmits this displeasure to us.
>>154854171Damn bros we've been called out. None of us complained when Toph said "Im the avater you gotta deal with it"
I think this time their strategy seems to be pursuing the pdf file demographic.
>>154854361>pdf file
>>154854272I'm sorry anon, but there's no way they learned from their mistakes with Korra. The fact they have an ugly poo pirate Avatar should tell you everything you need to know. They're doubling down. This show is DoA, and I hope it flops hard. It's ugly. The creators should be punished.
>>1548543852014 was 10+ years ago, nobody remembers what a SJW is anymore.
>>154854425What does that have to do with anything I said?
>>154849286The original series was a fluke. It was somehow great in spite of all the shitty writers involved with it. I wouldn't count on it happening again, certainly not in the current year.
>>154854361>>154854385Yar! Shiver me timbers lads! Be ye ready for further adventures on the high seas with loli (Not Korra) and milf (not Asami)?
Bwahahahaha! OMFG they are actually doing it! They are actually bringing back the DARK AVATAR! Holy fucking shit my sides!
>>154854441Tell you to drop it, the internet's moving on from your culture war.Enough of this destruction the blacks can stay go seethe in a corner while we watch some cartoon or else i'm going to troll your pearl clutching ass.
>>154854608Anon, this is the corner here.
>Korra canonically destroyed the world and plunged humanity into a post-apocalyptic desert hellscapeKorra simps are not beating the worst avatar allegations
>>154854608you lack self awareness my nigga
>>154854669Guess she really did make everyone deal with it
>>154854385Keep crying
>>154854685This is what happens when you dont have a DARK AVATAR! to keep her in check.
>>154844586People who cry Mary Sue at Korra would shit their pants in rage over Yangchen.
>>154854608>internet's moving on from your culture warWhat internet are you using? I'd like to subscribe
>>154844586She was unlikeable as fuck and kinda a Mary Sue
>>154854480Thats a man. Unless by milf you mean man id like to fuck.
>>154854711Nobody likes the poo avatar, keep seething
>>154854755But she did generate lots of good porn and frankly thats about the only positive contribution she made to the world.
>>154854755Yangchen is the youngest fully realised Avatar. She was 16-17 btw. In her novels she was never seen training. She was also able to connect with her last lives at 8. You people will kill her if her novels get animated because you all will wrote essays on how she's a Mary Sue.
>>154854771What im wondering is how they keep getting enough money to continue to pump out avatar content.
>>154854755You can't call Korra a Mary sue dummy, we know all characters have plot amor but you can't call her Mary sue Aang was saved by katara and would have died that plot saving him, so if you want to call Korra Mary sue, use the same thing for aang and every main character in fiction
>>154854608>the internet's moving on from your culture war.And yet you're the only one here who hasn't moved on, since you bring it up like it's your obsession, despite no one else mentioning it at all.
>>154844586Korra is somehow simultaneously a mary sue and the weakest avatar. this fandom is so smart
>>154854789It sells. Just because you might not like it doesn't mean there's not 99 other fuckers who will and do like it.
>>154854771>Yangchen is the youngest fully realised AvatarConsidering there's like 100s of Avatars, seems doubtful
>>154854755
>>154844586Show was bad. 0/10
>>154852835>projecting
>>154850376They had to rewrite the finale at the last minute iirc, since they were told at the last minute they probably won't get a second season. Originally Amon was supposed to be a two season villain, and the first season finale would have ended with Korra finally turning the tables on him, only for a bunch of spirits to show up and bail him out, showing his talk of being chosen by the spirits wasn't just talk.
>>154850598I'm mad because a week before this episode I made a Dark Avatar joke on another forum which we laughed off as being retarded.
>>154854759Lol, you are funny
>>154854792Cope
>>154854822Yes, stop denying the truth
>>154849151Thats a good point, when Aang was dumb or impulsive you could excuse that as due to him being the youngest of the cast and he had to find guidance in others to get anywhereKorra is just a dumb jock through and through believing she knows best and constantly fucking up; but then it just works out in the endWriters wanted to eat the cake and have it too
>>154854759Facts
>>154849260>>154849446Uh, Katara did get SUPER MAD though. I think Sokka said something too, but Katara was mad enough for three people.
>Did you just call Korra a Mary Sue? Heh, sorry chud, but you lost the argument by using a term rooted in misogyny created by bigots scared of a strong woman of color! Heh, bet you feel stupid now!
>>154848526Aang was in a higher risk, lower resource situation. Aang was a kid and most of his consistent and direct allies were also children, there were some problems they just could not solve on their own and a lot of mistakes they make because they were a couple kids fighting an empire. They objectively did very well for the bad situation they were in.Korra was a celebrity in a time of relative peace and with the resources of an advanced city, surrounded by people with wealth and inventions. For all of the advantages that she had access to, her track record is actually very poor.
If Korra's been secluded in a compound training all the time. Shouldn't she be surprised by everything while being super strong? How come she gets her bearings so fast in the outside world and gets defeated all the time?She should've been like: wtf's a zoo? I want to go there. Where's the earth kingdom, so that's a desert? Can we go to the pool? Is that a political protest, i heard about those. Instead she never wanders she always sticks to the mission.
>>154855235Don’t reply to your posts
>>154851099Jesus, that unc Toph and bigheaded Zuko.
>>154855274I didn't.
>>154855329>uncOut
>>154855362You did
>>154844586>people were less willing to let korra make mistakes than they were with aang
>>154853541>>154853571You fucking morons, we instantly turned on her when she jobbed to the Dark Avatar, fucked up the reincarnation cycle and let in all those Spirit immigrants.It was also around Season 2 that we started to realize that Mike and Bryan were not the reason for the success of ATLA.
>>154855249>Let me ask you a question. Why would a man who's shirt says genius at work spend all his time watching a childrens cartoon show?
>>154854912Unironically her being an unlikeable Mary Sue is good writing in hindsight because she causes the end of the world.
>>154855908Nah I turned on her in Season 1 when she bullshitted into an Air Bender and then the Season ends with Aang bulshitting her powers back instead of Korra going on a journey without bending.Honestly Season 2 would have been great if the reason she was opening the Spirit Portals was to restore her Avatar Powers and she had to spend time without her powers to learn some fucking humility.She never even tried to figure out why Amon's followers hated benders and was just like "LOL BENDING IS GREAT SUCKS TO BE YOU I'M JUST BETTER THEN YOU!"
>>154855272It's weird since Katara and Sokka blended in and didn't get surprised by much despite only being in the SWT in their ruined home igloo town. Yet Korra doesn't have much wonder about things around and yet struggles to fit in BUT also picks up on how Bolin was suggesting something else when he says that he and Korra are together when sneaking her into the stadium.
>>154856027REMEMBER PRO BENDING!? THAT WAS SUPER FUCKING IMPORTANT! GLAD WE SPENT HALF THE SEASON ON THAT SHIT! FUCK I HATE THIS SHOW THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD AND I AM FUCKING MAD!
>>154854739Did Yangchen have a direct hand in causing the apocalypse? Did the apocalypse happen while she was a fully realized Avatar able to go into the Avatar State or did it happen before she learned the ropes?
>>154848285Agreed. Mako’s pretty cool when he’s allowed to be his own character rather than an accessory to someone else.
Can't we get a brutal chad firebender avatar after this to compensate for the faggotry of the past 3 avatars?
>>154856310No
>>154848721I want them to stop the good airbenders shit and introduce Airbenders that act like the ancient Turks and their cousins Mongolians/Tibetans
>>154856591Tibetans are turkic
>>154856591Enough is enough! We've been peaceful long enough!Let's do it! Let's do the whole fucking village!
>>154856591I bet this was one of the ideas for the cancelled RPG
>>154849891>Aang never should have founded Republic city.Republic City was making the best of a bad situation. The Fire Nation Colonies were not just going to magically disappear. Trying to de-colonize them was simply not an option since that would displace thousands of people.
>>154854515Vaatu was the big bad of the fighting game too. They are forcing this fag to be Avatar's own version of Frieza or something.
>>154856956The Negaduck of the avatar verse if you will
>>154857442>Korra killing the past lives robbed us from seeing Bumi interact with Aang
>>154844586Aang was like 5 years younger than Korra and grow up without a stable family life. Korra had a stable family life and spoiled.
I think every big, "older" cartoon will always have a fanbase that's just perpetually stuck in "old good new bad". Spectacular Spiderman, Mystery Incorporated, etc. That said, Korra is bad, it has its momemts, but the characters are mostly bland till the last 2 seasons, the plot and lore are poorly written and some of it even ruins established pieces of the old series, and comics and the new movie aren't really far behind. and Seven Havens looks to be even worse. No redeeming qualities at all from the alleged synopsis and the glance of it we saw. If it really does take place hundreds of years after Korra and every TLOK character is dead then I can't even really call it avatar.
>>154856591You don't even have to introduce "evil Airbenders". The Airbenders basically separate people in love from their child and each other systematically. In any human culture that'd be seen as one of the most cruel things you can do.
>>154854385They added Indians in the Avatar Aang movie as Airbenders and the Netflix shows tries replacing (some) Earthbenders as Indians.They really REALLY want to shove poojets into the setting wherever they fit, consistency be damned!
>>154859356They will eventually introduce Whites (Asians) and Africans (Negritos) and basically everyone else only because they are technically in Asia too.
>>154854822Or maybe the writing is so shitty that she ping pong between a mary sue and a complete jobber.Never considered that i suppose
>>154854739>novelYes, people are shitting these constantly for how shitty written they are. Even the Roku one , so its not just “le evil mysoginists” complaining.Same for the shitty comics.
>>154847692>"All men are created equal." The history of that country started with this lie and will end with it.
>>154859907No
>>154848723>it made the people of republic city genuinely hate herAnd they were generally depicted as being in the wrong for it. Just because characters hate her in-universe doesn't mean she's actually being presented as a fuck-up
>>154860448The citizens were only depicted as being in the wrong if someone else was framing her for something she didn't do. They were rightfully pissed off at her for her decision to leave the spirit portals open filling their homes with spirit vines and trees and her response to that was to leave republic city because she had better things to do like gathering airbenders from the earth kingdom.
>>154849889the jet one is actually a pretty good idea. might be better to make it an apprentice or something, but still, connecting amon to the previous war like that would be a good motivation for him.
>>154859282>In any human culture that'd be seen as one of the most cruel things you can do.This is what I voted for.
>>154861697Schizo
>>154844631>>• Opened a new era of human-spirit coexistence.>Also automaticDidn’t pay attention award
>>154844890Huh, I never really thought about that part. Of course she’d attach to anyone who saw any bit of interest in her.
>>154847040Because Bryke openly stated that they had no interest in showing the Avatar journey in Korra.
>>154855054>They had to rewrite the finale at the last minute iirc, since they were told at the last minute they probably won't get a second season.No? They were told about getting more seasons halfway through production of Season 1.Season 1 was specifically designed as a mini-series that could potentially stand on its own.Amon was always meant as a one season villain.
>>154862120You still lost
>>154848929Still not as retarded as a magical staff giving people airbending powers that's locked away in an eternal storm.
>>154856310We could have got a brutal chad earth bending avatar, but you're gonna get the poo avatar instead and you're gonna like it.
>>154859282How do Airbenders even populate? They separate the males and females, do they have some orgie event to reproduce once a year or something?
>>154850168Azula killed Aang. They made a big fuss about it on book 3 and avatar's official website with the flash game that shows Aang actually died and having to reconnect with his past life in the spirit world to revive himself.
Korra as a character seems like bryke pulling a cargo cult on how to make a brown tomboy character. he nailed her design, but he simply doesn't know how to write her as endearing tomboy characters. He wanted to create a lovable meathead tomboy, but what he ended up creating is a annoying, rude and emotional bitch. Pic related is what Korra would've been if bryke know how to write a good female character, not a realistic one.
>>154862560Never watched any of this show but isn't that just discount Yoruichi?
>>154862560Why do brown tomboys like losing so much?
>>154862601She's certainly not as strong but just as cool and lovable. She becomes an amputee because everyone keeps ripping off her limbs during battles but she still keeps fighting as if nothing happened
>>154862601No, her personality is more aggressive and thickheaded, kinda like Korra, but unlike Korra, she was never egoistic or dramatic which make her lovable despite her obvious lack of prefrontal cortex.
>>154862837She’s also not MC
Just watched the movie. Tagah went from chill dude to extremist way too quickly. Would've probably worked better as a miniseries.
>>154853901to be fair, the hype over whorra was so big i dont think it would have ever lived up to it.
>>154844586I like her. It’s not her fault her mom drank while she was pregnant.
>>154862946He made too much sense so they had to resort him to schizo hitler.
They should've let Bolin and Eska relationship to develop instead of saddling him with Opal, who's the most boring character in the show.
>>154863062
>>154863062>Opal, who's the most boring character in the show.I was trying to think of someone worse, but you're right. Even though Jinora was annoying, Opal is just boring.
>>154854515Would be funny if they made Pavi be the Dark Avatar, and the other one be the normal Avatar.
>>154863211They're twins and both ugly so what does that change?
>>154844586What did Aang do that was a fuck up? For most of the original show, he solves other people's problems. Korra spends most of her show goofing off or causing problems, and has to be forced into doing something good.
>>154847340>>154847340Zuko is a swell guy but I’m sure most people of the other nations did not want the fire lord to have direct contact with the next Avatar. And no Aang does get to vote for the dead air nomads this time.
>>154854515>Pavi and NishaI fucking hate this shit, avatar should be an east asian world, why is everything filled jeets now?
>>154863337Saars we redeem Aaavtaaar saars
she was great when she lost her powersthat was hot
>>154862190What the fuck were they thinking making a mcguffin movie man, it's like those guys saw rise of skywalker and thought it was brilliant cinema
>>154863337To be fair Guru Patnik existed in the original. But to answer your question a lot of studios now are filled with indians. In animation studios it's usually second gen indians who are desperate for representation. It's why in the movie the missing ancient airbender avatar was an indian woman and now in the new series the earth kingdom which was supposed to represent china is now filled with jeets.
>>154863337There was Pathik
>>154845010Yeah, this girl was going to town whiteknighting E;R and calling Korra "Whorra" and telling anyone who disagreed with her to piss their pants. Maturity as expected from those who orbit Tony.
>>154856027>Season 2 would have been great if the reason she was opening the Spirit Portals was to restore her Avatar Powers and she had to spend time without her powers to learn some fucking humility.This is the best fix I've seen presented. Season 2 really should have been Korra struggling as a non-bender and set on a path to find her bending again and getting in touch with the spiritual side that she ignores. Too bad.
>>154863481>Guru Patnik existed in the originalThat was during a time when most of us were oblivious to how bad jeets are. They were still seen as some mystic silly brown guys that are into spirituality. Their image has been exposed and ruined thanks to the internet and their forced immigration.
>>154845010Since you can't get away with RAW SEX yet on the screen, yes.
>>154848978Even leaving them all as nomads, none of them were away from the temples visiting a friend, or had an injured bison and couldn't make it back, or were mid-transit from one temple to another?
>>154863481Sonam was hot tho and Air Nomads were always loosely connected to jeets due to the Tibetan/Buddhist allegory. Pavi and that other chick just look like brown turds who don't belong in the setting and certainly don't belong in the Earth Kingdom.
>>154863509>this girl was going to town whiteknighting E;R and calling Korra "Whorra"based
>>154844705>Girlboss is when female character does thing male character does all the time.>Avatar has a lot of girl bosses I suppose. Azula. Toph. Katara even.>Azula? 14 years old, firebending prodigy. Effective military strategist that ook Ba Sing Se in what? A month? Iroh couldn't do it in over 600 days.>Toph? Blind. 14? Master Earthbender that regularly t-bags grown men in a fighting arena.>Katara? Literally calls out the sexism of the Northern Water Tribe and fights for her right to be able to bend how she wants. Master healer and world class waterbending fighter, matter of fact in the latest film she has in my opinion the greatest non avatar waterbending feat in the series.>Or are these 'girlbosses' okay because they came out when you were a kid and your mind wasn't broken my culture warIf girlboss is by your definition "when female character does thing male character does all the time" explain in detail why people like Toph and Katara who have girlboss moments that pretty much no one has any problem with. Be detailed.
>>154851805Dang o'l honor man. Like Bring me the avatar
>>154848735So Aang died, like cardiac arrest, then they resuscitated him, but Korra was already born, so he lost his connection to the avatars and as such all elements except air which was native to him? And Korra could get air but skill issue, and the villain is an air bender. I more or less like it, except for the whole villainizing the "beloved" main character from the show. That's always a really low blow.
>>154844716>does this powerful young woman deserve any kind of agency over her own lifefunniest part was the answer was a resounding noand not because of her sex but because she's a spoiled child
>>154863923The difference is that Toph, Katara and Azula's rough edges were treated as flaws rather than virtuesKorra's brashness is continually rewarded by the narrativethere's not a single final fight she actually won
>>154863481Indian definitely has a lot of work to do with modernization but it’s kind of silly to write off a billion+ people that will become more and more relevant in this multipolar world. Bryke only has a surface lvl understanding of Asian culture so it could do them some good to do more research in the origins of Buddhism. Also the earth kingdom is so fucking big, why can’t there be a stinky pajeet subcontinent?
>>154863509Elliot Rodger?
>>154864875>why can’t there be a stinky pajeet subcontinent?Because I don't want to be reminded that India exists
>>154864869The concept of a barbarian hick bumrushing the civilized1920s Hong Kong/Shang Hai could have been good. Like Tenzin and the metal popo would need to capture her a couple times because the snow injun had a little too much to drink, but sometimes the elitist super Buddha needs to punch a commie or a fascist in the face when they’re trying to play nice.
>>154864941Indians can piss me off sometimes like one “kwikie Mart” employee was wanting me to give him a tip after I got my snacks and all those fucking scam callers, but they’re not all bad. Indian food can be pretty tasty and some Indian girls can be really fucking hot. That black sheen they have in their curly hair drives me crazy sometimes.
>>154864981The issue is there is that the scammer with a heart of gold is a staple in indian culture.Yeah it makes for a nice story to tell, but westerners have a massive hateboner for any and all scams, it's not like china where they'll blame themselves for falling for it, no, westerners will group up and attack people who pull this shitThere's a good reason why the scammer with a heart of gold doesn't really exist in the west (unless their scamming to save a loved one or bread for a family)
>>154865013>The issue is there is that the scammer with a heart of gold is a staple in indian cultureI wonder why cultures built on scamming everyone that's not your family is going to glorify scammers >>154864981I also hate their H1B visa scams, food scams, hiring practices, throwing their idols in rivers, complete disregard for nature, pride Indians have in India and so much more. The only reason I lean into supporting China because they are anti-India
>>154865013Chinese business culture is built on trying to fuck you over and selling you subpar materials, granted it’s way less annoying then some punk ass jeets blowing up your phone the entire day. In the end Im just some bitch who dreams of 1990s America that will never return as the world catches up and surpasses us.
>>154865074What a master strategist.
>>154865013>scammer with a heart of goldThe fuck does that even mean?This just shows why Indians will never integrate into western societies and make it impossible to have a high trust society. You're always looking to fuck over people and think they're to blame if you succeed. That's so ass backward.
>>154864981I am so exasperated how they've taken up pretty much any call center job or customer support position. 9/10 I'll get some indian i can barely understand and over half the time they are completely useless. I've gotten to the point I'll just hang up if an Indian answers. Which I'm sure that's what companies want. Cheap incompetent labor that deters their customers from calling in and receiving help.
>>154864869Korra was plenty flawed, I think the issue is people want a simple buzzword to shit on a character when it's a harder issue to explain and pretty subjective. Korra's biggest issue isn't she's a Mary Sue or a flawless girlboss. Her flaws aren't really satisfying to watch, they don't have an apparent payoff of developing beyond them or really learning from her consequences. At the end of the day Korra's issue was she was just kind of a shitty uncompelling person to start with, surrounding herself with other shitty uncompelling supporting characters.
>>154844586Korra was the face (or avatar, he he) of a show that failed to live up to its predecessor. People are going to find all sorts of reasons to complain about her. Doesn't help that she's just ultimately not that likeable or interesting outside of being attractive.I find LoK to be a very "Star Wars Prequels" series, where it has lots of interesting ideas, but just fails to execute them in a compelling way, and all the characters just kind of feel flat without any real chemistry.
>>154865170I feel like Americanized Indians are far away from their scammer cousins. Then again it actually takes hard work and money to move to a different country. At the very least Bryke starting with a kid protagonist gives them room to develop a character that will mature and grow and they can be take lessons learned from the avatar movie to develop the gang more next time.
>>154865293>I feel like Americanized Indians are far away from their scammer cousinsStill don't like seeing them.
>>154865434I feel it’s also this website. I didn’t resent them before spending a decade here.
>>154865277>find LoK to be a very "Star Wars Prequels" series, where it has lotsexcept prequels are liked and still get new shows connecting to the films, Korra is the sequels and much like Rey gone and forgotten
>>154865483The prequels still suck in a lot of the same ways as Korra, but you're right that it has a way more similar audience reception as the sequels.
>>154865442I don't deny it definitely plays an influence, but I also don't think they were as prevalent a decade ago. The worst you got was the Indian scam calls. Now you see them everywhere.
>>154865483Republic city is an interesting local and Tenzin, Officer Lin, and General Iroh are cool. Tenzins kids are cute even the little snot nosed one.
>>154865558Zaheer, Kuvira, Amon, and Amon’s brother were good villains. Frankly Amon should have survived that blast so he could start over again.
>>154865534the prequels were good and still get merchandise compared to avatar where the original series still gets merchandise unlike Korra
>>154865660The prequels blow as movies. Maybe the other shows and comics or whatever are good, but the 3 prequel movies themselves are weak.
>>154856048If 100% of the show was set up like a sports movie it would have been better than what we got Hercules and Gunbuster did it
>>154852668I bet you're vaxxed against the coof 3 times because the state told you to lmao
>>154865614>Zaheerretarded villain with completely contradictory ideology, only liked because he seems cool on surface
>>154865803The avatar props up the monarchist system. He got pretty close to ending them permanently.
>>154863062>>154863131I don't even remember who Opal is.
>>154865762No fuck off. Probending was terrible, it's like if you had a Jackie Chan movie and then you made half of it based around point based karate bouts.
>>154854385The creators already got paid.
>>154865906>destroy monarchy>this causes instability, quality of life drops as might make right reigns and rowing bands of bandits take away everything they want>to stop the chaos people accept first government that provides them stability, this time it turns out to be fascist one>your retarded "natural order is disorder" ideology gets completely btfo in few years
>>154844586>Open laptop and decide to give korra a spin after finishing ATLA>Does a full display of all her bending powers in diapers>Close laptop
>>154865975Yeah he’s a horrible person.
>>154865614Zaheer is debatable because it feels like they worked back from the idea of evil airbender/villain gaang team and crowbar'd in some psued philosophy.Amon and his brother definitely had potential to represent a divide that Korra would have had to actually mediate and overcome her insecurities but ultimately we just forget the equalist movement entirely and invent some inconsequential face/off backstory that has absolutely no bearing on Korra.Kuvira's a good foil but she comes in too late. She would have been better served as a team member and having an inverse Zuko arc to show Korra rubbing off on people negatively. Also she's the poster girl of "our villain is making too much sense, quick, show them erecting a concentration camp!"
>>154866052the problem not that he is horrible but that he is a retard
>>154866081He grew up in a cult like Korra and he got all of his friends killed. No wonder they’re both retarded.
>>154865483>gone and forgottenThe whole franchise might have been in a limbo a few years back, but that bit about korra being gone and forgotten may be premature, with her appearence in the fighting game, her being referenced in seven heavens and her show being re aired on teennick.https://x.com/ToonHive/status/2083011680729002456
>>154844586Korra was a great show and I can't wait for Pavi to come along and mindfuck the incel sexists on this board.
>>154867030Difficult to be excited for an apocaliptical/mad max take on avatar. Especially because people's frustration stem from core concepts bryke introduced in Korra and they seemed to have doubled down in the new avatar movie:- Abandoning thr Yin Yang approach, with the Avatar striving for balance instead of being the representation of just order- Kaiju light beam fights, dropping the grounded martial arts approach- More debatable, but in the original show it's not clear people need to have the inherent "ability" to learn how to bend an element. The idea was that anyone could learn if they trained hard enough, and humans had learned with animals
>>154855205Arrest...
>>154854711>>154855274>>154855423Vibecoding mogs your spergout, keep being gay.
>>154853635Nice disappointments.>>154853766Nice going to bed..
>>154853534Eeyvp..>>154851877>>154853623Yes
>>154848793>>154847660Nice arresting..>>154849039>>154847569Sneed, Sperg.
>>154867209It feels like they decided to push bending to be more akin to superpowers rather than disciplines of knowledge people could master. I get they wanted to build an in universe reason why normal people couldn't bend more than one element, but I feel like their choice of making bending something you had to be born with was poor in hindsight to the setting. I don't see why they couldn't have pushed the idea that anyone could bend even if only a little bit, but 99% of people just sucked major balls and couldn't do more than pushing the equivalent of some gains of sand. Perfectly fine to still call these people non benders.Most people learn math in high school, but that doesn't make any of them mathmaticians.
>>154847002Gtfo...
>>154862262Apparently yes they all get together during festivals and that's when they have babies. The comics (stupid) also say the airbenders are A-okay with gays because they're all supposed to be the good guys and gays are good, even though they'd be 1000% against it.
