...so feige expects me to like her in the x-men reboot after everything she did???Nearly killing people, SAing peter, and using people's bodies like puppets???I recognize the character but I ain't clapping
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>>154850306>Nearly killing people, SAing peter, and using people's bodies like puppets???but she does that in comics, so do you hate that version of the character?
Interestingly, Peter did kiss Jean without her consent in the comics, but she actually liked it, implying that comic Jean does not see grabbing someone you aren't close to and suddenly kissing them as an offensive thing to do
>>154851133Yes. I hate Jean Grey in the comics.
>>154851133Yes. She's a horrible person.
>you and your sister are mutants>sister gets kidnapped, oh fuck what do>spiderman is a popular mutant hero, maybe he could help me?>nah i should rather try and piss him off as much as possible
She is a compelling character but her evilness is too far and makes it hard to believe it when she starts listening to reason because of a brain hug
>>154851214so then whats the point of bitching about the character? this comment isnt for you but i hope that jean puts a spotlight on her comics feats because a lot of her fans act like sugar doesnt fucking melt in her mouth and shes been garbage with a high kill count. same reason i hope fatal attraction gets adapted so max ass suckers can stop with the " hes just misunderstood" fucker kills millions and people still ride for him, wanda kills thousands and shes one of the worst character ever apparently
I hate how people feel like every character needs to be flawless. Flaws make characters interesting.
>>154851303She's a psycho with no redeeming qualities.
>>154850905Kek>>154850306Who cares>>154851235Lol yeah, but spider-man is a mutate not a mutant.Mutants are born with it mutates get it after birth
>>154851327shes a cute redhead. so theres that. but maddy also exists and is suprisingly less hypocritical
>>154850306>SAing Peter>censoring yourself on 4chanOh my god fucking grow up
She should have taken it a step further honestly. Spend a week in MJs body. Make it the best week of Peters life. Have lots of sexThen destroy him
>>154851303Flaws are supposed to be bad decisions the hero makes on impulse or personality traits that impede them. Not being a rapist just to fuck with the one guy you CAN READ THE MIND OF TO KNOW HE'S NOT EVIL!
>>154851362Who is maddy?I meant who cares about those “bad things” it’s no biggie without her doing that the bad guys would never have been exposed
>>154850306Mutants been garbage people is canon, OP.
>>154851377>>154850306She should have got into rhino’s mind broke into peter parker’s apartment at night tied him up and raped him for a week.What a lame fag he is for not telling the truth to mj for three years that rape would have helped him come out of the closet
I thought it was an interesting character beat that Peter clearly thought the kiss was assault, and felt the need to explain it to MJ. MJ did not care at all. Jean clearly intended it to be assault. She wanted any measure that would sting Peter. If this was the other way around, I assume Peter would be livid that another man kissed MJ through his body. But as MJ said she does not feel anything for Peter anymore.
>>154850306There's a reason why killing all mutants is a popular position in every version of xmen
>>154851133yeah? jean is horrible and the cause of many problems in the marvel universe (past, present and future)
Jean is at her best when she's edgy and kinda evil; if she doesn't have that her entire personality is being "the girl" and that shitty love triangle with Scott and Logan.
The best kind of rapist character is doing it because they want to be vile instead of because they can't get laid normally. That is why Jean is the best rapist.
>>154851133The difference is that comic Jean isn't a villain. She's a victim of poor writers and fans intentionally making bad faith claims.She never used her psychic powers to make Bobby gay. That's literally a headcanon. In The MCU she is sincerely using her powers to cause pain to people who don't deserve it
>>154851495Not our fault Bendis & other writers are too retarded to write a hamfisted retcon in a natural way. Nor at least NOT forcing a retcon like this.
>>154851303there are flaws that make a character compelling and makes you root for them as long as you know, they get over them and start to act betterthen there are flaws that make a character just an annoying piece of shit with nothing of value, this is jean
>>154851519>>154851495It is funnier, if she just decided to make someone a fag lol
>>154851562An aggressive psychic fujoshi would make a good villain OC.
>>154851598Kek yeah, I hate that they made bobby gay, but if it was just jean doing it that would be funny atleast
>>154851397 madeline pryor, the goblin queen, cables mother and jeans clone >>154851495you may not think that jean made bobby gay, but if she was willing to mindfuck the shit out of warren, its not something that i would put past her
>>154851477>that shitty love triangle with Scott and LoganThat love triangle is an invention of the Fox movies. Morrison was a retard for use and elevated it in his run.
>>154851802>That love triangle is an invention of the Fox movies.the cartoon
>>154851796Are you the only one calling her maddie? I know who she is just not as maddie, but i guess she could be called that
>>154851839most people call her maddie, maddy, lynn or variants of her name
>>154851815It only lasted for one season and was one-sided from Logan's part. Jean was clearly in love with Cyclops.The movies are the moment when Jean actually reciprocates Logan interest and the basis from the modern perception of Jean's character.
>>154850306>plebbit spacing>SAinggo back niggerfaggot
>>154851853Uhhh umm sure
>>154851802>That love triangle is an invention of the Fox movies.Nah, it was created by Chris Claremont retroactively in the supplemental stories for Classic X-Men. Then you have shit like this happening in X-tinction Agenda.
>>154850306Cute
I do not like Jean as a "body snatcher." That's retarded and seriously underplays Jean's abilities. Why the fuck would they introduce Jean into the MCU with a Spider-Man flick? Why Jean and not Logan? If this is their hail mary, as a die-hard, I'm already annoyed.
>>154852841Cause it's barely a Spider-man franchise already.
Jean probably shlicks it to Peter x Tony Ao3 porn
>>154852841She isn't a body snatcher. I mean she is but that's clearly just the baby version of her powers. When she learns about her sister's death she evolves to multi person control and lifting objects
>>154851495Eh, Writers tried to say Bobby was Outed by her but even Jean rolls her eyes and doesn't care about it so he can be her gay bestie simp in the end.
>>154852622This is after the whole Madeline Pryor debacle. They needed to pump the drama somehow becauseit was enough for Scott to leave his wife and newborn child.It only became accepted as part of Jane personality because of the movies
Get ready for the Peter Parker X Jean Grey eraGenuinely love it, it'll make fresh drama. Jean goes off to Xavier Institute, and starts to form a romance with Scott, only for Peter to show up in the crossover.Scott gets jealous, and then here comes Emma Frost.Thus, Jean and Peter date for awhile, and it works despite the long distance - Jean frequently in his head, and they have psychic dates, shit it's great for the constantly busy Spidey. But for both of them, the lack of actual physical intimacy sucks.Then, both the symbiote and Black Cat happen for Spider-Man, and Jean starts to get with Scott again. They officially break up and remain great friends.
>>154850306She seems incredibly influenced by MCU Wanda (starts as a terrorist, mind rapes Hulk, freaks out over grief and can only be defeated if she chooses to lose) so Feige probably figured if it worked once……I don’t know if it will because Wanda had several films as an Avenger before Feige really started making her villainous. Jean is almost starting at WandaVision levels of villainy. But I guess he thinks that’s what works.
>>154850306I liked it but the plot is to similar to thunderbolts but the "villain" having more agency and there for make them less sympathetic. Hammer/DamageControl is doing shady experiments on people. Protag-kun is being strung along by corporation. Final battle is the power of friendship telepathic sharing circle I wish Holland could have one spider-man movie that's just spidey and not a glorified team up comic and I wish this movie did more with the mutation thing. The fact that Peter doesn't come back from the dead after cocooning himself up like the Spider-Man: The Other is a missed opportunity.
>>154853557>Get ready for the Peter Parker X Jean Grey eraIt's pointless because the movies firmly established that Holland Peter has oneitis for Zendaya MJ because the actors are a thing IRL.
>>154853557Deranged spidercuck, they have done 0 romance in the MCU they're not going to change it now especially not with spiderman.
It was honestly pretty weird to adapt that arc where Adriana evolves Peter but then swap her with JeanWhat the fuck were they thinking
>>154853973Twitter retards and stan accounts are eating it up She's the new Wanda, she is innocent and can do no wrong because she's a girlboss who slays
>Psycho femcel>Yandere-esque>Psychic powers>RedheadI CAN FIX HER
>>154851235>spiderman is a popular mutant hero, maybe he could help me?Why would he help her? He fucking sends his superpowered enemies to them. For all she knows, he's working for them.
>>154851325Nigger, she's hot. I can fix her. I'd be less forgiving if she was Zendaya.
>>154854026It's better than the boiler plate female character arc from the comics of women being hysterical and becoming evil. Wanda, Jean and Susan all have comic arcs where they can't control their powers because they're hysterical women who can't control their emotions and become straight up villian only to go back to being good guys.Also the movie tries to minimizes the amount of collateral damage she causes but there's no way she didn't kill some innocent people with that tank at the beginning
So what is Jean origin/early days in the comics? she even have a sister? I usually don't read mutie comics
>>154855243Jean's sister has always existed, but she's a human in every other incarnation
>>154851373You have to understand that whenever you see that sort of censorship, it's something written by someone who was raised in the safe-space thought control internet and they don't know any better. You can help them out by calling them a fag.
>unironically saying "SAing"Kill yourself.
If Jean was doing all that, imagine Emma Frost
>>154850306I would almost be more okay with her if she was an alternate take on Emma Frost. Shes the type of psycho who would be working with Magneto, not the X-Men. But we know now that Emma is another actress, so its gonna be weird seeing them clash when Jean is already such a vile scumbag. Way to shoot themselves on the foot.
Is this board racist against mutants???
>>154851272This was an opportunity to reimagine the character as something less atrocious.
When people say Jean is horrible in the comics, are they referring to the pre phoenix saga stuff or modern retcon shit?
>>154850905>unavoidable I’m ruined
>>154856518Mainly telepaths, but yeah.
>>154856469I don't mind Jean starting off as evil if they can redeem Loki after Thor/Avengers1 they can redeem Jean. As long as they don't try doing Dark Phoenix sage for the third time. Her turn to good needs to be more or less permanent. It sucks that this movie came out a year after thunderbolts though, it felt derivative.
>MJ sucks Pete off the hardest he's ever been sucked>swirls his cum in her mouth and swallows>Jean Grey: haha, got you! It was me, jean grey, this whole time!What DID she intend by doing that?
>>154856701It sucked when they redeemed Loki too, but at least the vibes with him is that he’s a messy character who will go back and forth on morality always. Jean is meant to be an actual heroine people look up to, and all chances of that are gone in her debut.
>>154856701There’s no way Feige doesn’t do Dark Phoenix again, at least if his X-Men series lasts long enough.I thought that WandaVision would be MCU Wanda’s villain arc and then Feige did the same villain arc with the same character a year later. I think debuting Jean as a villain is his way of setting up the fact that she has a dark side and her Phoenix era doesn’t come out of nowhere.Though I heard someone else speculate that making her so powerful and dangerous this early is to set up the idea of Xavier putting psychic blocks on her powers again.
>>154856741I'd quite like to mindjack people for sex, means I don't have to deal with any of the messiness.
>>154856864They'll do Dark Phoenix but combine it with the modern comics/Marvel Rivals where the Phoenix becomes a good part of Jean.
>>154856593Both And the reqsoning still falls fllat since Jean in the 60s and 70s wasn't doing this psycho shit
>>154857103What bad stuff did she do before phoenix?
Wait, are they going to do a teen x men sort of like evolution, for the MCU?
>>154850306I just saw it today and honestly it was amazing, I'm sorry but this puts it above Spider-Man 2 lots of great action, Good moments such a good suit that he was in the majority of the movie and they did such a good job capturing the inner turmoil of Peter Parker It's not without its faults, but it was genuinely very good
>154857730>better than spider-man 2
>>154857730Too bad it has the baggage of the previous movies, shitty Hulk & Punisher, & Peter's retarded side cast who don't care about him while Peter still plays second fiddle to a story being really about Jean.
>>154857745Don't get me wrong Spider-Man 2 is great but I think brand new day did the struggle with his powers better along with some great comic references
>>154857847All the comics this movie "references" or rather cheaply pulls from are modern post 2000s comics that people hated even back then.
>>154857819Yeah it definitely had its baggage but you could tell they were trying to do a soft reset in a pre-established world much like F4 First steps and Superman but unfortunately the pre-established world is the MCU which we already know very thoroughly
Jean is just going to start transmitting images of her tits into peters brain
>>154856741I love this trope a lot!
>>154850306I think there is a way to rewrite the story to make the emotional beats hit and flow much better.First, they should've made Jean much more unstable and less evil mastermind in the first half, and make her seem like a child throwing a tantrumSecond, in the flashback they should make it so Jean is the one hijacking random park people and her sister is the responsible one, so when Damage control comes, they came because Jean fucked up, and her sister would then use her powers to distract Damage control and allow Jean to escape, that way her experience would somewhat mirror Peter Losing aunt may.By doing this, you can allow Sadie to not only feel the guilty, but also view herself as a monster, which then would at least provide motivation for why she acted the way she did, she didn't feel the need to "play nice" because Damage control never thought of her as human anywaybut also, by hamming up this child throwing a tantrum vibe, it becomes much more emotional and less "I intended to kill that guy" kind of vibe, and more "I just want to save my sister, I didn't know what I was doing" Then by the end, you can actually redeem her because you think of it as less "jean did all this because she's evil and planned it" and more "Metzger made a child go this far with what he did..."
>>154858289Anon, this is Disney MCU written women. Being unironically immoral and totally evil pieces of shit that the entire movie/show bends over backwards to say is good and a dindu nuffin is the norm. They couldn't write a likeable female character who isn't just a mirror of the spoiled selfish cunts writing and signing off on this shit if they tried. And they don't.
>>154853557So, where's the part where Jean gets bored and makes Peter and Frank fuck?
Imagine if they add Morph as the They/Them character for these movies.
Famke was a good acting choice.
I think Jean's bad actions fly under the radar because it's mostly all contained to the comics and when she's evil on the big screen it's because "THE PHOENIX FORCE, I CAN'T CONTROL IT!"
>>154851133>but comics! Alright, disingenuous faggots. In BND Jean was written as a future member of Brotherhood of the Mutants, not as a future XMen. Which is retarded as fuck.
>>154851802It was solely Claremont and his retarded vision of Jean and Logan being meant for each other just because they are both immortal.
>>154851255I think the set it up well.She has mother issues and Aunt May giving some motherly love at the right moment worked for me.
For all we know after the end of the movie Jean would still do horrible shit to people, she just feels attached enough to Peter to be good towards him. She clearly had no value for human life
>>154860270>jean might end up becoming a yandere for peter
>>154860274Calling it now. In a future film Jean will attack another hero who provides her. Peter will jump in her path and do the Jurassic World training pose to distract her and she will drop everything and say only because it's him. Then the other hero will be impressed by Peter
Jean Grey is evidence that the mutants are, in fact, a menace in need of control or extermination.
>>154860274>MCU Peter finally gets a redhead gf>But at what cost
>>154860274now that i think about it, having a yandere telepath sounds thrilling for a story
>Jean and Emma have a full-on double yandere telepath meltdown over who gets to suck Peter's Big Spider CockLet it be when Peter has the symbiote, and adapt the comic where he solos the X-Men, and it'll make an easy three billion.
I'm pretty certain the dynamic between Jean and Peter is a one sided adoration thing. I can't imagine him loving her
>>154851388Indeed. The way the movie should've gone is:>*Reads Peter's mind>"Oh wow this guy is a pansy. Okay I guess he'll actually help then.">"Hey listen so my sister got kidnapped by some corpo and she's been missing ever since. You're a hero and stuff so give me a hand? We're telepaths so maybe it's the typical investigation to take advantage of our powers, so that sounds like supervillain territory, which is your thing."Or, or,>"I know you're Peter Parker and you went through a lot of trouble to hide that, so help me find my kidnapped sister or I doxx you."To which Peter obviously replies>"Oh jeez lady, please don't doxx me. I was going to help you anyway."
The big reason the kiss is hard to get past is because it wasn't an impulsive decision or a mistake. The full intent there was to make Peter feel violated. That is not the same as defending herself just because she has to
>>154860624That's okay, Zendaya said she doesn't mind as long as she's out cold.
>>154851165>your main love interests are a smelly manlet and literal who>The greatest hero on Earth acknowledges your existence and gives you a kiss>you like it>he then ignores you for a better red head>you're not even #2 since a dead girl and a thief have higher priority than you>even Carol is closer to him than you and has dated him>have to be stuck in one of the most hated love trianglesBeing Jean is suffering
>>154851235That's 100% accurate to how mutants behave. It shows why Spider-Man is beloved while mutants are hated. Telepaths ruin lives while literal monsters like Magneto, Omega Red, Sabertooth and Mr. Sinister were given political immunity by the rest of the mutant community.
>>154850306So they decided to turn the x-men evil in the mcu?
>>154860582>and adapt the comic where he solos the X-MenHe probably can solo them at this point. Peter can do the whole "move fast while time is slowed" thing and his organic webs are OP. The only ones who can give him issues are Colossus and Rogue. Anyone without crazy degrees of super strength or speed is getting shut down instantly.
>>154851303Not if later the story undermines those flaws and pretend they're not as bad. Wanda sucks as a character not because she's flawed, but because the universe pretends her heinous crimes that she did out of her own will are not that bad, and she doesn't deserve to suffer any repercussions for them. If you want to make characters like that, you also need to maturely adress the situation and make them culpable of their actions. But because these actresses are hot and they're in a dumb superhero film, any interesting questions are thrown out of the window. So then they're not "flawed", they're just horrible people getting away with crimes for merchandising reasons.
>>154860270It's funny that the movie wants to end all positive when both of the main villains (Jean and the asshole security man) get away with everything and suffer no repercussions whatsoever for their actions. Like, even if you want to sympathize with the psycho bitch, the guy who killed his sister is still out there and unpunished; so she's just going to go chase him again. And the only guarantee she won't hurt multiple innocents is what, one good talking-to by Peter's ghost aunt?
>>154854304Susan was outright mind controlled, so was Jean.Wanda was the one who the writers turned into an insane rapist out of spite.
>>154850306yes because the whole point is she gets a redemption during the school where she learns how to control herself
>>154859959It is because they are or phoenix or modern.Outside of Phoenix, they didn't exist before the 2000s
>>154860767It is really strange that the female character the movie characterizes as extremely left leaning just shrugs off that her body was used to make out with a stranger
>>154850306>be Jean Grey>sister has same powers as you>Mutant ICE arrests her in broad daylight>nobody bothers to even help or ask why this random person is being arrested >go on a terroristic crusade to “rescue” her>almost cause two people to fall to their deaths >proves Damage Control right by not being able to use her powers right They gotta redeem her big time in the next movie
A Jean who made it to her late teens without Xavier makes sense here
>>154861428Like the original?
>>154861428The thing isn't "does a psychotic telepath make sense as a character?" bothering people, it is the fact that they will want people to accept this version of the character as a hero later on despite the fact she is clearly psychotic.They can try to redeem her but it's gonna be pretty hard, specially since she was barely punished for all her violence.
>>154851133Yes, Dark Phoenix is a stupid bitch. She can suck my dick.
>>154861588The entire point of the mutants and the X-Men is that they aren't perfect and have to force themselves to save humans who don't want the mutants to exist. Their powers are not altruistic generally and almost all of them need to be coached on how not to genocide humans by accident with them which is why Xavier made the school in the first place. >>154861027He will be a reoccurring character and is viamently anti-mutant. The pacing of BND was awful but I imagine they are going to slowly build him up and pay it off similar to the comic.
>male character uses powers in emotional way>badass>female character uses powers in emotional way>psycho bitch
>>154861910Yeah, what's your point?
>>154850306Hopefully Cyclops and Rogue get fucked up origins like this tooLike, close to the comics, where they're running around as criminals before the Professor finds them.
>>154851272What do you have against Maxx?
>>154861971>Rogue is going to drain Carol and put her in a coma while stealing her flight and super strength >producers are going to be confused and upset when test audiences cheer and clap at this tragic scene
>>154850306>Nearly killing people,And then we got people like the Hulk who probably killed hundreds if not thousands of people in his wake and everyone is cool with him. Cute.
>>154856741Prove she's the better fuck.
>>154851235>spiderman is a popular mutant hero, maybe he could help me?>nah i should rather try and piss him off as much as possibleAll she saw in her vision is that Spider-Man was helping Damage Control. She was overly emotional and traumatized and her entire journey was built on revenge. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that Hulk should have calmed down before killing and destroying everything.
>>154861910wrong pic?It was clearly not emotional. It was a very precise move, in a way only a surgical mind could pull as described by magneto himself.
>>154851452>MJ did not care at all.Guarantee that was one of Zendaya's changes, since she said MJ wasn't weird enough in this movie so she added things to make her consistent with previous portrayals.
When Morlun Where MorlunI want MorlunYou can't half ass The Other. Where is MORLUN
>>154852622Damn so Jean is saying Wolverine is way better than Cyclops? Holy fugg, poor guy
>>154851133In what comics?
>>154851519Headcanon is the only thing that makes the retcon make sense with the half a century of history saying otherwise.
>>154862438Morlun has always been shit. He was shit when Straczynski and JRJr made him. He was shit went Slott brought him back as a group of inter-dimensional energy vampires. The list of Spider-man's rogues gallery in the Holland movies is not so deep that we need a Morlun movie. We still haven't gotten a Blackcat, Molten man, Venom, HobGob, Kingpin or Rhino. Not to mention scorpion and silvermane are glorified cameos. Also not to mention all the no way home villains that we still haven't seen a MCU version of.
>>154862701Your opinion is wrongWhere is Morlun?
Why did Jean suck Peter off and call it an "attack"
>>154856741Kino trope.
>>154850306women are allowed to do this. scarlet witch is most evil person in existence and they spend entire movie with everyone justifying her actions and trying to make it some moral issue. its inversion of reality and deliberate. meanwhile, a super terrorist can kill people, murder your partner and flee into crowd of innocents and if you kill them in a fight, you are evil because they play a sad background song during it and have brown people look scared because you are a white man. thats just jewish disney at work.
>>154862701Straczynski is the single worst writer in the history of comics. not just spiderman. all comics. You can make a top 10 list and he occupies like half the spot for worst comics ever published from OMD to all the magic totem garbage to gwen cucking spiderman to gwen having twins with norman to 9/11 dr doom crying garbage and more. just the absolute most dogshit comics ever to see print. even has jrjr's dog shit art so not even jeph loeb tier bad where you can at least look at tim sale or jim lee art. just pure shit that should be burned and deleted from all archives.
>>154851133
>>154850306Ugly
Pretty sure comic Jean is an only child
>>154863196https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sara_Grey_(Earth-616)Nope
Everybody likes to act like the spell is so final and foolproof like this nigga isn't strutting around morbius land from the exact spell
>>154850306>SAingliterally fucking kill yourself
>>154862438I like Morlun, give me Morlun
>>154863631>getting morbed by Dr Strange because Spider-Man was too retarded to shut up while a wizard was workingpretty shitty fate desu
>>154850306The issue is that Jean's entire plan is contrived as fuck. Jean already has Cerebro-Level mind control so all she needed to do was possess Mac Gargan, let him be captured by the DoDC, bodyjack/incept a guard to file a report to Metzger, possess him for the info, find out he killed Sara, then have Metzger and most of the DoDC commit suicide/kill each other for her revenge.>But that means no SpideySpidey could still pull a Captain Save a Ho for her at the end but now he has to do some Spidey detective work rather than go though all this padded bullshit.
>>154863916I don't think the movie makes it clear how long her sister was gone. It seems like her first instinct was to try and destroy the prison so her sister could escape, then her sister wasn't one of the escaped criminals So she simply did not know where her sister was or have any leadsThe whole point of the VMax thing is to reveal she barely had any real info. She thought it was some top secret government thing but it was just the branding on a vent
>>154863940She knows the DoDC captured Sara and that it runs multiple prisons. We even see a billboard for DoDC stuff in the movie and they're not SHIELD level secret about their work so all she had to do was google them and find out who's in charge since Metzger also does PR stuff in the open since he's a slimy suit too. That way she'll know exactly which prison/level her sister was if she was alive but also find out Metzger killed her in his experiments so she'd have answers/revenge since they're already pushing her towards a Dark Phoenix power levels out the gate.>Inb4 she's just a kidThis is basic bitch deduction stuff that most Marvel characters with an IQ over room temperature could do. Especially since they talk about how Jean is not only dangerous but smart when she's introduced.
>>154853973They have no idea what to do with Peter. This whole movie just feels like a really clumsy way to introduce mutants...without ever calling them mutants
>>154861802How can magneto survive in no oxygen?
>>154850306She completely ruined Bruce’s life too.
>>154851235He’s not a mutant, he’s a mutate.
>>154861409Don't worry, senpai. We got you. Marvel, excec here. Next movie she'll constantly wonder where Peter is. Also, she'll compare all males unfavorably to Peter. Then she'll blush and deny having any feelings for him when questioned.
>>154860274She literally possessed him just so she could make him breathe for a week straight so she could save him. She’s completely devoted.
>>154863196She has a sister with 13 appearances, and she is not a mutant.
>>154861802Magneto doing what he does best; bullying those that can't fight back. Shit at least Frank gets into gunfights with odds thoroughly out of his favor
>>154861978max eisenhardt aka magneto aka the metal asshole aka mutant father of the year >>154862546she fucked with kittys dads mind when he was rightfully worried about kitty being there, then in the 05 arc she was mindfucking the shit outta poor warren to the point that emma and the cuckoos had to step in to give her a mental beatdown. bitch is a monster like most marvel psychics are. they even tried turning my betsy into a raging bitch
>>154864585If there was ever a time to do a true big Spider-man team-up movie it's right after no way home. Peter doesn't have any supporting cast so filling the story with Bruce, Frank, Dewolff and then Jean is a good way to slow burn the Ned and MJ sub plot. I would have preferred a Black Cat story but it was ok. People just don't like the character assassination of Jean Grey but there is always some contrived plotline that has one of the two parties looking like an idiot or an ass just to have Spider-man fight Wolverine or whoever in the first couple issues before the team at the end. This is just that but stretched out into a movie.
>2 male characters or 2 female characters or a male and female character of different races do something >tumblr shippers "oh they're fucking, they're definitely fucking">white male and white female character do the exact same thing>"omggg so sibling-coded"Every time
>sibling coded>she literally had a sibling in the movie and was only aware of her death within minutes of adoring peter Five minutes at most. Can you imagine if she was like "Oh peter is my sibling now" after that? What a ridiculous idea.
>>154866976Stan accounts start aggressively repeating the word siblings to propagandize it because they hate a ship, not because they think it's an actual sibling bond.Ned and Peter? Those are siblings.Jean LOST her sibling
>>154867063That's my point, if one of them wasn't white they'd be shipping them by yesterday, but because they hate white pairings they try to mantra manifest them as siblings
>>154867081Scott isn’t white????
>>154867132They'll call the MCU Scott and Sadie Sink Jean "sibling-coded" even if they show a full on sex scene between them
Jean is based
>>154850306>doesn't try and talk to Peter>doesn't use her mind jumping powers to get to get into Milchick's head over time>first instinct is to drive a fucking tank down the street>second is to break a dangerous criminal out of prison and use him to break in>third is to mind rape Banner and unleash the HulkMuties deserve to be killed on sight
I'm only annoyed that it felt like everyone was too allied... like cops not chasing Spidey OR Punisher?
>>154867081exactly
I thought the mind jumping thing would have been Proteus
>>154867167Cops not chasing spidey made sense with the beginning of the film considering he worked his ass to bring down crime, however he definitely should’ve gotten pushed back from them after he hurt that one cop.punisher however should be hunted down by the police no matter what in my opinion
>>154867114I loathe these people. Ever since Peter has been turned into a quirky faggot, and not the Spidey in the 80's who wiped the X-Men and would have probably yelled and berated Chuck for wiping his memory of that fight in Secret Wars. I hate these people and I hate telepaths. Sure the moment where he kisses Jean in that one issue is good fun.However, body swapping shit and mind manipulation is the one power I am autistically pissed off about whenever it is done because the violation of autonomy and privacy it entails. It makes me irrationally furious. Yes they kinda show how evil it can be in the movie. But I dunno it just makes people hate Jean when she's supposed to be a hero.
>>154867213DeWolf covered for him.
>>154867167I blame 9/11 and Sam Raimi. Every Spider-man movie needs to have NYC going to bat for Spidey even if it makes more sense for public opinion to be in the can.
>>154862008Hulk didn't choose to throw a guy gleefully into a speeding taxi anonPlus Bruce specifically kept hulk under control for years, JEAN brought him back out even when everyone told her not to (we know its so that the audience can clap at hulk chimpouts again)
>>154867217I'm with you here. That kiss should be considered on par with making someone suck your dick. It's literally a humiliation ritual and a power play. It's an "I can be intimate with you by force if I wanted here's a demonstration" moment
>>154851133>the comics!Not exactlyShe wasn't like this in the 60s, and even the moments when she was an ass over the years didn't have her this egregiously aggressive
>Nearly killing people>nearly
This board is so fucking tsundere for JEAAAAAANNN it's funny
>>154867238She covered for a known serial killer known openly too?I know the Blip and Avengers changed the civil war stuff but Spidey was a known menace before he erased Peter Parker...
>>154867114Didn’t she cripple an old man and throw MJ off a roof?
>>154867303Only Peter, but she told him that if it happened again, she’d have to arrest him.
>>154867303She didn't cover for Jean, Jean just walked out on her own because no one can touch her
The raped
>>154867319What happened to the guy in the Helicopter? Did she make him jump out and swap bodies before he went splat?
>>154867383She can just go back to her body whenever regardless of distance
>>154867243She basically ruined his life and completely got away with it. He was terrified that he might’ve hurt someone, and now he’s locked up in a psych ward, and lost his job.
>>154867370Reminder that Jean canonically felt this sensation of kissing
>>154867370Why did she do this?
there's people legitimately defending jean walking an old man into traffickand they're playing off the kiss as "she just messed with him" I don't know if people are registering how bad that is. Literally flip the genders.
>>154867414Girls like Tom
>>154867426Share those posts, I want to mock them
>>154867370Both of them are the raped.
>>154867393But then how did she beat Peter to MJ? Unless she was already near by and was just messing with him.
>>154867370No seriously how does kissing peter and then bragging in his face about it increase her odds of finding her lost sister
>>154867114>not a single person mentioning the kissTwitter is not a real place
>>154867438A LOT of people are saying "Well she didn't kill him" https://x.com/Duhlorean98/status/2083241698918846783/quotesAs if breaking an innocent old man's legs is any better. Even if that guy survived he was clearly a working man. An old man with a CONSTRUCTION JOB is clearly already struggling and you fuck with him further?
>>154861409Considering most of the internet already forgives her awful crimes she’s not done anything to make up for other than help Peter breathe (something I bet was added last minute to save face), the sad reality is they will pretend she’s already redeemed.
bruh she made out with him how the fuck are they siblings
>>154867430>Forced to undress by a woman>Raped by Jean>Watch his ex make out with PAUL>Lives aloneWhy are girls so mean to spidey :(
>>154867478Ok at least in this tweet i see a lot of dividing opinions, from sad cope of people wanting to defend her to genuine complaints, all with a different number of likes. This to me is more normal than the “siblings” freaks who conveniently look over the kiss scene.
>>154867460Every single Spider-Man villain starts out by robbing banks and then turns their full attention to killing Spider-Man because he keeps stopping them, Jean was tired of Spider-Man tripping her up so she got him to say pic rel so she could go find her sister in peace
>>154851133>SAingThis isn't reddit you fag
>>154867564She didn’t have to kiss him to do that though
>>154867564Okay but with that point why didn't Electro or Rhino start pinning him down and kissing him to unsettle and deter him? They didn't do that because they aren't freaks and there is a limit to what they will do for their own pride. Jean did that
>>154867573That part she did for her own satisfaction
>>154867564And then he found out who she was, chased her and stopped her. Pointless.
>>154867478>"Well she didn't kill him"
its funny because if she really wanted to make peter sick all she had to do was make it a hug or pretend that there was a trigger word. But no, she made it a kiss, because kissing is intimate and Peter hasn't felt a touch of intimacy in FIVE YEARS She basically buttraped him guys.
>>154867545Yelena is a disgusting fujoshi
>>154867586I.E, Peter is still the RAPED
>>154867604>ywn get raped by a psychic redheadI wish I were Peter.
>>154867587He didn't know she can recall her mind to her body even outside the 10 meter range and made her plans according to that, she didn't know he has the Meta Predator glasses that can record and facially identify her, what's the matter, they're character they don't have the script
>>154867564In hindsight this is funny because of this peter develops the universal inhibitor which will be the cause of future mutants detainments
>>154867604He should buttrape her back.
>>154867629It won’t work on Colossus.
Peter probably spent years fantasizing about just getting to hug MJ. Just getting to hold her hand. Being able to feel her sleeping on his shoulder in bed. Cuddling. Reminder that Peter and MJ basically had a date if not days together. No Way Home is set SECONDS after Far From Home so he never actually got to spend quality time with her. Jean gave all that back to him. That was the longest kiss he probably ever had with MJ and then Jean pulled the rug out from under him and called him a retard for falling for it. Jean's lips were on his mouth and he can never wash that away. She robbed him of his last comfort. Then she baited him into going predator mode and choking MJ.We're supposed to believe this is just her making the strategic play so she can get her sister, but no, this is her dominating and crushing a guy because she finds him annoying.She absolutely intended to make him feel sexually harassed. Next scene she goes "You looked me up? Oough I'm blushing!" If Jean was a male antagonist she would be considered a horrifying incel creep.
>Peter needs help with his animal DNA mutating him>needs a biologist>most importantly someone that specializes in human/animal DNA mutation>sends him to the Bruce Banner who specializes in gamma radiation
>>154867710They used Bruce because he's established and Disposable. If you use the lizard you would have to set him up for a 4 minute payoff because it isn't his movie
>>154867652>weakerthanhulkssusPeter stops him with organic webs.
>>154867710They're in an awkward spot with Peter in the MCU given that he has audience-level knowledge of Connors, Osborn, Octavious etc
>>154867692Man Spidey can’t catch a fucking break man, batman gets Alfred, Spidey gets to suffer
the cherry on top is that jean didn't do it for pervert reasons, she did it so that peter could feel like the victim of a pervert. Imagine raping someone not because you want to fuck them but because you want them to feel the disgust of being raped. It is plot relevant that Peter feels assaulted because otherwise he would never try to explain it to MJ and never learn that Damage Control is evil
>>154851133She’s a bore in the comics
>>154867794Unironically yeah now her character with storm is nothing but power wanking and aura farming with no aura
She really hatekissed him.
>>154850905
So since MJ is basically out as Peter’s love interest, who’s left for him? Would they dare use Jean?
>>154867908>Peter actually dating an actual redheadPlease god please
>>154867908I think Jean would be an interesting choice and most viewers would love it but there are too many obstacles in the way for Jean x Peter to work if you really really think about it hard>Jean is beyond street level by the end of the movie and would trivialize any physical threat Peter has to go through >Jean is not typically associated with Spider Man so this would come from nowhere>Tom Holland and Zendaya are married in real life. Breaking them up permanently might cause a PR nightmare >Jean is stated in the film to be a teenager by Punisher. She could be 18 or 19 but the odds are the scriptwriter put that there to tell us, the audience, that Jean is significantly younger than Peter>double down on the fact that Jean feels the need to mention that Peter is a "loser in his 20s" >Peter spends the entire movie buzzing about MJ to the point that he ignores the blonde girl who obviously wants to fuck him and lives right next door It's just not going to happen
>>154867908>>154867937Isn't this Jean like half his age in this?
>>154856469Emma Frost will spend two movies in the hellfire club being headmistress of the ss department
Jean finally got him back
>>154868010They don’t specify her age but she’s probably in her late teens. They might do another timeskip in the next movie.
>>154867908She's not out, they just used the amnesia as a way to reset the will-they-won't-they which is a huge draw for women audiences In the last scene MJ is clutching the necklace Peter got her and it's implied Jean can unlock old memories when Banner reverted to rage mode Hulk, it would explain why MJ was crying when Jean froze everyone
>>154868055>ssS-Straight Shotacon?!
>>154867370Peter obviously knew something was up when the kiss was better than usual. He just didn't want to admit it.
>>154868092I mean… the actors are married to one another in real life
>>154868092>it's implied Jean can unlock old memories when Banner reverted to rage mode HulkWait, is that why Ned remembers the handshake at the end of the film? If MJ does remember then yeah, she and Pete are likely getting back together though the trust between them will heavily be damaged due to him not telling her what happened and letting her live her life without him for years.
Cyclops bros...
>>154868125>Peter was fighting Ramrod while MJ was getting ramrodded for 5 years in college because he didn't fulfill her promise of telling her they're togetherShe'll definitely think he's into cuck shit at least
So….. there’s a chance Spider-Man can make a theoretical appearance in a future MCU X-Men movie
>>154863397>A year before Jean's supposed death in space, she and Sara were kidnapped by Attuma, who wanted to breed Yeeeep, certified Claremont character.>>154867426>peopleSay it loud, say it proud. Women.
>>154868239depends on how Sony deals goes through with MarvelSony is always wishy washy with wanting to do their own spider-man or not
>>154868092Would they be willing to pull a Peter Quill and Gamora thing and have both of them move on? They’re setting up the amnesia recovery plot but what if the damage has been too much for MJ and Peter?
>>154868010She can’t be any younger than 18 or 19
>>154868409I can't believe this is the first meme about the kiss and it's painting peter as the predator
If Jean is older than 17 then it is morally okay for Peter to like her but if she is younger than that it means that Punisher was willing to kill a minor
>>154850306She's cute and a redhead so I forgive her
>>154868409SHE WAS 24 YOU SICK FUCK! HER BRAIN WASN'T FULLY DEVELOPED!!
>>154868409>>154868558KWAB!
>>154868409
>>154850306Yes, she's pretty
>>154868097Emma was the supplier for all the most depraved wealthy members of the hellfire club anon that was part of her job
>>154851303>Flawed hero = evil bitch who endangers or outright kills innocent peopleYou people are genuine retards.
>>154868190Peter was slamming dudes into walls while dudes were slamming MJ against walls
does jean grey get away? haven't seen the movie yet, does she get a free pass for doing all these mind rapes?
>>154869093Yeah, but technically she slips away since no one can even stop her
>>154869093Peter tells her she is unforgivable to the kiss right after it happens but when she learns of her sister's death they bond over their families
>>154869093Honestly even if Peter wanted to kill her at that point there is nothing he could do. She has the power to control an entire town simultaniously and she had already unlocked telekinesis. The only way to defeat her was to either snipe and kill her or to convince her to stop
>>154869116>>154869146she's already that powerful in this movie? i thought this was kid jean?
Btw the whole multiverse thing is gonna be really weird when the avengers find out about xmen through the xmen from the FOX universe, a different universe from their own, and then discover there are xmen in their OWN universeLike, is the MCU version of Xavier, whoever he'll be, gonna be filled in on the fact that the Avengers met an alternate universe of him beforehand and already know FUCKING EVERYTHING about xmen before the MCU's xmen "canon events" even happen?And is anyone gonna brief the other superheroes?Does Peter even know what the fuck Jean Grey really is?
>>154850306I mean….. did you really expect them to not redeem Jean Grey?
>>154869172She gets stronger and goes from being able to mind control one person at a time and jump from mind to mind in a 10m radius, to being able to stop every human in a multiple kilometer radius in their tracks for an extended period of time
>>154869172It is kid Jean. She is referred to as a kid and a teenager across the movie. She is also extremely powerful. During the final act she is opening and closing doors to shut Peter out while individually controlling enemies for him to fight and floating objects around. She threatens to make everyone in the town kill themselves at once and she already had them all held in poses
>>154860998I went to college with one of those people she trapped
>>154869093Yes. Worse than that, once Peter learns big nigga lied to him he immediately starts talking about Jean with proverbial kid gloves after all the horrible things she did, it's super jarring.
Thanks for saving me a ticket guys, I'm confused how this is getting raved reviews yet all these spoilers sound awful
Answer me honestly. If Peter tried to fuck Jean after this would she go for it?
I don't understand why people are acting like this movie is so amazing. >Has spent years not being able to talk to his friends and then they just magically remember him after a handshake>All of the street level stuff is finished in the first 30 minutes>There's obviously a version of the script where Lizard is in it instead of Hulk but they probably scrapped that for brand synergy>Punisher just feels out of place in mainline MCU and he's only there because he's Holland's friend irl>The X-Men shit is obvious studio mandateIt was 50% epilogue to No Way Home and 50% prologue to Disney X-Men.it sucks.
>>154869172She goes beast mode at the end. I could see them walking her powers back and hoping people forget by the time the next x-men movie comes out.
>>154869352Absolutely, she was kissing him in MJ's body to tease him and then when he took a bullet for her in the end she spent days(?) keeping him alive from afar
>>154869352Yes. If he'd asked her to hang around he'd have a needy yandere psychic emptying his balls everyday whether or not he's in the mood.
>>154869352She's fucked in the head. Yes.
Doomsday slaughters all the fox men. Secret Wars involves Jean as a soft launch for the mcu xmen.
>>154869352Jean went into his mind, she saw him naked taking a shower, jacking off, everythingJean most definitely want that spider dick now
>>154869267No it's not.
you fags are too emotional over this shit. your posts are reading like a bunch of bitches. The fuck happened to this place?
>>154869435you do know you're on /co/ right? did you think this was /tv/?
I hope Jean assaults him again
>>154869456even for /co/mblr this level of bitchness is way too high. borderline twitter levels of bitch nigga retardation
>>154867476You don't understandShippers don't give a fuck about anything whatsoever beyond their immediate need to see two characters interact romantically. And if they don't want to see two characters interact romantically, they will actually campaign to prevent this, even if it doesn't make any senseIt is a mental illness.
Would Jean let Peter do anal?
>>154869651She tries different things by entering his dream and dreamraping him
>>154869672>MCU jean is just redhead emma frostinteresting
>jean has wet dreams about peter>it starts to bleed into peter's dreams accidentally
>>154869435What the fuck am I supposed to say nigga I wanted something different from the movie
>>154869724If 97 is any indication they will go with X-Men 2000s mixed with OG stuff and some pre-2000s comics. Precisely to distance themselves from FoX-men
>>154867988>Peter spends the entire movie buzzing about MJ to the point that he ignores the blonde girl who obviously wants to fuck him and lives right next doorI honestly thought she would be Black Cat
>>154870065Whats the fucking point of wasting screen time on a woman who has no shot?
>>154870081Cause I thought that Peter and MJ was dead in the water.
so all the villains and fights and shots in trialers are like cameo shots with no impact or relevance to the plot. most are just jean grey midn controlling them. what in the fuck is this shit film?
>>154870081So they can show her with a black bf later on
>>154853973I'm guessing this is a pretty late change. Anne Hathaway and the girl from Succession both denied the role before it went to Sadie.Adriana not only works well with Spider-Man mutating. But it also makes Scorpion work in a thematical sense. Bringing Bruce in for the inhibitor also makes sense if this was supposed to be Spider Island lite. Now we just have Peter creating anti-mutant tech for no real reason. I'm guessing Jean replaced Adriana once Feige got Sadie to stay on for 100 additional movies. Her telekinesis is barely used either. And the mind control range limit is arbitrary as hell considering this is Jean.
>>154870130they unironically last 3 or 4 seconds. They're just establishing shots. Basically like the scenes in spider verse showing the character backstories
>>154870081Seemed like an obvious choice to show Peter's increasing isolation over those 4 years without his friends.Cute neighbor girl flirts with him but all he sees is someone who can recognize his coming and going. So he moves.
>>154870081the scene is to establish that nothing can break peter out of his shell, not even pussy on a platter
>>154868607>If a minor rapes you, you're actually a rapist too.
>>154868607Rape discourse gets more and more complex and stupid as the years roll by
>>154870552Just like in my doujins.
>>154868607This such a weird to say also speaking of discourse I don’t like how mj reacted to it too buts that’s just my personal opinion
>>154870922Writers are in a hole. Peter needs to feel uncomfortgable about it to demonstrate that he values MJ's comfort and safety.MJ has to feel comfortable about it because it's a family event, they cannot have her feel sexually traumatized in this movie.
>>154851214Watch the new Spider-Man movie.
>>154871320That certainly is a man and woman looking at eachother
>>154860588>I can't imagine him loving herBut she can, and that means he will if she wants him to.
>Peter is obsessively listening to police radio>Peter never watched the news a single time in 5 years>Peter never found out that Damage Control tried to murder a Muslim teenager in New Jersey>Peter never found out about the prison break from a Damage Control facility in California>Peter never learned about the Doorman lawWell, I guess he was pro-registration in Civil War...
>>154871504Zoom zooms don’t watch the news anon
>>154850905Why didn’t Jean make Spider-Man gay? It’s because she wanted to fuck him
When you think about it MJ and Peter never fucked. They literally started dating during Far From Home, which is immediately followed by No Way Home and her mindwipe
>>154853660>think they'll bring back Wanda in secret war?
>>154871666Thankfully she spent five years at college gaining experience for him
>>154871594by news I obviously meant "The Daily Bugle Official Podcast only on Spotify (tm)"
>>154871733Jean can fix that
>>154863916>>154863940>>154864549She's a hormonal young adult. I don't think she was planning things through and was just winging shit.
>>154864962Does MCU Peter have his mild healing factor? I thought that was a thing
The way the MCU is handling mutants is baffling. People are born with powers all the time already, there's nothing that makes Jean stand out from normal super people.
>>154850306Finally watched the movie and I have to agree, "Jean" and her sister literally were body-hopping into people for fun. I mean Metzger sucks too, but really this kind of is an example of why people would 100% fear mutants. Even the "good" ones basically use their powers for sick kicks. And then she threw a hissy fit and refused to kill the one person or many that deserved it and held part of the city mentally hostage. Frank was right best thing to do is put a bullet in her head, metzger can't use her and she can't harm others anymore.
>>154851255>>154860225I kind of agree on both sides, but did feel like this should have leaned into the fact that spider-man's no kill rule is much softer than someone like batman's. He has killed before and he hates it but he will do it when pushed against the wall or someone is too far gone.Really think this route works he showed he was willing to take a bullet for her as well. But a alt ending where he has to stop her because idk mass psychic suicide route or something would be interesting thing to force spiderman to have to do
>>154871856>why is she so retarded?>she's a girlyou're not wrong
>>154850306>Practices body swapping on innocent people for fun>Straight up murders an old guy by walking him into oncoming traffic>Antagonizes Peter for first hour of movie by using people as intermediary puppets>Hijacks Michelle, molests Peter and then tries to kill her dropping her off a building>Uses a nice old lady as a kamikaze tank driver with a bomb to send into a building with hundreds of peopleCOME ON JEAN, YOU'D NEVER KILL ANYONE.Movie flat out portrays her as an unstable manipulative psychopath.
>>154872342yeah but her sister died, so she's allowed to do all that
>>154872342That was so funny. Everyone says she TECHNICALLY never killed anyone and sure but she is absolutely already accepted killing as a way to solve problems
>>154861409Two routes>She'll be forgiven hard like scarlet witch, she's also even younger and cuter than that actress who is a grown women while she's meant to be like a teen to young adult college age. So the internet will call her a tragic female and forgive everythingor>They'll do a full restart and the X-men will come to the MCU as their own universe/timeline and she'll take the spot of the old Jean, maybe some bs Phoenix soul fusion shenanigans
>>154850306>>154851133>That time Earth 1610 Jean forcibly swapped Peter's body with Logan's just to teach Logan a lesson>Logan using Peter's body to try to have sex with high school teenagers>Peter having the most valid anti-mutant crashout
>>154860539That was basically already Jean in the X-men
>>154850905Fuck
Who did it better?
>>154872495Word for word Peter in this movie says the line >They're not after you because you're different, they're hunting you down because you're dangerous
>>154872366She dosent know her sister die.
>>154872591that's coming from peter, who forgave everything she did because "she lost someone important"
>>154854102At least this Jean is cute in a needs to be tamed/corrected kind of way>>154860274>>154860372Damn you anons, making me see their dynamic in a whole new way>>154860588Really kind of a fun way to play it, or she becomes his "cat woman" since by the end of the movie they show she really didn't change her values. She didn't suddenly see her hopping was wrong and in fact she's 1000x stronger. Now she can mind-hop and control and has telekinesis. Really, Peter basically just became her designated tard/schizo wrangler.>>154860582>>154871356He's better off than Cyclops at least, since she can't seem to mind rape him because of his spider side. Which has been played on before the weird spider psychic sense thing messes with mind control sometimes.
>>154850306I wish Jean would just go back to being a telekinetic. It literally sidesteps all of the problems with her character and provides a good contrast between her and Charles. It also makes for a more interesting story when you can only be a telepath or telekinetic.
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>>154867908ultimate spiderman used to date kitty pryde
>>154872965Id they had a kid it would have insane agility
>>154867908>>154867988imagine being Tom and Zendaya sitting in a room with Stephen Wacker and Nick Lowe and being told nobody could possibly relate to a married superhero because being married makes you a million years old and marriage is stinky and gross, and that's why we're forcing Disney to include an NTR subplot in this 2 billion dollar blockbuster film about the most popular superhero ever createdseriously though, I doubt MJ is out. it'll just be strung out to the end of the second trilogy
MJ already has a boyfriend. At least give Peter someone else to work with ;_;
>>154851519>Having the power to cure gay peoples minds>Makes them gay insteadShe is the worst villain
Why are the Japanese down bad for nuJean?
>>154851519I didnt know this, Im still reading the 90s era and i did read a bit of the krakoa era to know they really make bobby gay but I didnt know it was like this, holy fucking shit now I understand peoples reaction.... why on earth would they pick a random character and make him gay just for the sake of pleasing a demographic
>>154874036I really don't want teenage Jean Grey to meet her alternate universe self and future husband before meeting literally any other X-Men character.
>>154867453She was hauling ass to MJ while she body hopped and strung Peter along. Dude was following HER instead of just webbing straight to MJ. I guess he though she wasn't in the apartment and Jean knew where she was?
>>154859000So just like the comics?
>>154860357Spider-Man is a menace too
>>154850306First time with the X-men?
>>154860844Show me her official X-man ID card
>>154866343Bendis stuff doesn't count.
>>154874691NopeAnd she wasn't this evil in the comics without the phoenixShow me a comic where she made a nigga get hit by a car
>>154851133If she’s just as awful in the comics, I dont know why the X-men dont treat her like Magneto.She killed at least a dozen people in BND. Even if she hadn’t possessed MJ, Peter should have let her taken the bullet
>>154851133Damn you really shot yourself in the face there.
>>154851303The What If? Hela episode is the MCU's actual best storyline for a flawed character. Somehow.
>>154860274The post equivalent of gender inverted Twilight
>>154867339No, the punisher, after the attack on Damage Control he gets to scoot off, meanwhile Hulk got carted out.
>>154876252What did he do?
>>154850306I'm watching this tonight.
Is this dude fucking dead? Did Jean just merc someone and we're acting like she isn't a villain?
>>154876404I want to have sex with Jean. Thus she is good
>>154861910This is some edgy shit
I'm so sick of mutant wank.
>One of the X-Men villains is jewishWhat did they mean by this
>>154876988One of the X-Men villains is Irish, it really doesn't mean much.
Can't wait for them to explain why JJ thinks Jean Grey nearly giving thousands of people a stroke after going on a week-long murder spree is actually Spider-Man's fault while not talking about (((mutants)))
>>154877359But nobody died
>>154877359What about the fact that Spider-Man seriously injured a police officer?
>>154872342She also literally had the guards at the DC office shoot each other on-screen and had Hand ninjas stabbing themselves through the gut.
>>154877566They showed cars plowing into storefronts and exploding when everyone froze up, the fuck do you mean?
>>154877566>None of the cars that got literally exploded by a rampaging tank had people inside them, nobody got hurt
>>154876929Honestly. Superpowered dindus.
>>154877359Spider Man is the one who put her in the fucking place that gave her the super seizure powers
>>154878732>>154878744No body, no death.
>>154873930nostalgia
>>154873930Because Sadie is about as close as you can get to a legal loli
>>154877566Multiple MCU villains were arrested and thrown in jail for life for FAILING to kill a bunch of people. I don't see why Jean should be any different.
>Magneto is a jew who happens to be a villain>Nightcrawler is a devout christianI thought you fags said X-Men were homos
>>154873930Because after three movies of Zendaya dressed in the most unflattering way popssible, it's nice for Spider-Man to date an actual cute girl. If anything, the popularity of Peter/Michelle is the real surprise.
>>154876404you can see in the split second (before webm ends) after he gets hit spider-man running over to him. even though they don't show it it's implied he saves him. probably has a broken leg but isn't dead
i know it's nothing but i like that even when he was in hulk form, peter referred to him and called him bruce. shows that he sees the humanity in people even if they have internal monsters or powers that change their physical form. it foreshadows him being offended when mj says "this is like altering your dna... like some sort of monster"
>>154850306It’s not meant for you to like her; it’s to make you afraid of telepaths and set up *AvX* for when they reboot the Avengers basically *Civil War* all over again.
>>154878987>Catholic>Not a homoChoose one
I for one welcome Jean Grey as our MCU Queen.
>>154851133Yes>>154850905Fuck you
>>154881840how are you getting gemini to make images like that wtf, shouldn't it be placing safeguards
>>154882016That’s a real pic. It was for a Stranger Things Eason 5 shoot.
>Jean rapes Peter with the kiss>mind controls MJ to the point of making her cryI hate Jean Grey. the best part of this bloated movie was Pete and Ned playing with legos while mommydaya made fanart.
>>154882609We need to think about the fact that Jean Grey stressed Spider-man so badly and made him feel so pathetic and crushed that a heartwarming scene of him being built back up is just him playing legos and this isn't played as a joke or mocked as childish like in the other movies but really him healing from the absolute onslaught he was put up against
Bump
>>154850306>nearlyShe got that dude run over by a car.
>>154883973In the tank chase she blew up/rammed/flipped like 50 cars. The idea that I'm supposed to believe nobody died there is fucking retarded.
>>154873936Just for the sake of pandering to a demographic & weirdos with a chip on their shoulders about being seen as progressive. Turns out those people don't care about or buy comics.
>>154866976It's because Peter is in his early 20s and Jean is just vaguely a 'teenager'. In their head this is pedophilia even though Jean is probably intended to be 18-19, otherwise they'd be too scared to have Jean kiss Peter. Twitter niggers are just stupid.
>>154874904She's not evil. She's desperate. Her enemy was the fucking government. It's easy to be holier-than-thou when you don't have the full weight of the government bearing down on you.
>>154886275She raped Peter and tried to make like fifty innocent people kill themselves.She's a fucking monster.
>>154886284But she's just a baby!To be fair, I think every woman in Marvel wants to rape Peter.
>>154886299>But she's just a baby!No but she's going to make some babies.
>>154867414To fuck with the guy getting in her way, to show that he might be safe but anyone he loves wouldn't be. The world, as far as she knew, was beneath her and her abilities. There was no one that she couldn't control, then Spiderman came along. He needed to be knocked down a peg and this whole amnesia reversal act was how her edgy teenage mind figured would do it.
It's pretty clear that the mutant/mutate shit doesn't exist in the mcu since this movie keeps calling Spiderman a mutant >>154850306She was pretty charismatic ngl I hope she's the next big thing
>>154876252The Hulk was injured he was getting medical help
>>154886275She made a guy get hit by a car in broad daylight and she did that weird shit with that mj kissPlus who makes an old lady drive a tank rigged with a bomb through Manhattan?
>>154886299>got something for me peter parker
>>154867545>Peter gets undressed and put in compromising position "jokes" in every movie>Never a MJ gets undressed and put in compromising position So much for gender equality.
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>>154887116She's just mind controlling you into liking her bruh
