It just makes sense. Without organic webbing, why would he be "Spider-Man"? What's so "spider" about him?
>wall crawling
Tons of shit crawls on walls.

gross also makes no sense
i wish raimifags would die already or at least have a stroke and be paralyzed and forgotten in a retirement home

>>154851399
i like the mechanical web shooters more, they really showcase peter's scientist side

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>>154851638
SO MUCH THIS
Peter is supposed to be a Boy Genius

>>154851423
Tons of shit spins web. Like damn nigga you're not saying Batman should have actual Batpowers are you?

>>154851423
Why would his spinnerets manifest in his wrist and not his backside?

what are the odds peter would make a mechanism for a power he would unlock later in life

>>154851423
Yeah, like the powers are nonsense anyway (spiders are not know for being particularly strong or regenerative) but I much prefer a spider themed superhero just having the power to shoot webs rather than being inspired to create synthetic webbing and little wrist-mounted launchers.

>>154851780
Well it's happened like atleast 5 times across the multiverse and that's not counting for the multiple times it's happened.

>>154851399
where's the arc where spidey's web gland gets impacted and develops an infection from not webspinning for too long and just dribbles awful pus and green goo until at the climax of the story he has to squeeze it super hard and unloads a gallon of bloody mucus and backed up webbing into doc ock's face?

>>154851747
I do actually. Batman should use echolocation, be able to fly, give people rabies. and feed his young via breastmilk.

>>154851399
Based

How is he able to do stuff like web blossum? How is his body containing all that web?

>>154851803
That would make him breast feeding the robins a little less creepy.

>>154851423
his branding you retard

>>154851638
>>154851721
i don't have a problem with peter being a brilliant scientist but i do have a problem with a character that is always struggling with money problems, whose old lady aunt is also struggling, sitting on this incredible adhesive he developed that's super strong and durable and flexible that he could easily patent and sell for enough money to have him set for life. That's the stupid part.
if your version of peter is sitting on a gold mine and also has money problems as a reoccuring plot point, then that's a stupid version of the character

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>>154851423
>>154851638
What if Peter had the ability to shoot out webs but it was hard to aim and control but the web shooters fix those shortcomings?

>>154851399
It was always weird that the "power" was the knowledge to make them. Like do spiders know how to make web stingers and just can't? Are they frustrated they have advanced engineering knowledge but no ability to execute it?

>>154851905
They literally answer it in the comic, Pete tries and everyone he tries to pitch it to is a moron without vision. It's really not unbelievable that a kid doesn't know how to anonymously sell his supergoop.

>>154851801
With how much writers hate Peter, I’m surprised this hasn’t happened.

>>154851928
I like it.
Web goops out his hands
The web shooters simply propel them.
>ah dick! I don't have my webshooters on me. I'll have to pull some web out by hand and do a something something with it
The fact he built the shooters and is reliant on acquiring more web cartridges is weird.

>>154851423
Cuz he was bit by a spider and not a gecko, retard.

>>154851638
Then make 'Spider Sense' his technological invention (Spiders can detect moving threatening things with their MULTIPLE EYES AND SENSORY HAIRS; Peter has never been shown to have wither of these theses). Organic Web just makes sense.

>>154851399
A hole is a hole

>>154851638
I’ll never understand why they don’t use both. Like he uses his webshooters until he needs his organic or even vise versa. This leads to him having more options with what the mechanical can be. He could use literal nets or a gas or a taser even. As much of Peter is science oriented he tends to go very basic. That’s why I will always miss SpiderMan Unlimited that suit went hard.

>>154851747
Batman was never bitten by a Bat.

Though since Bruce Wayne chose his name because he wanted his alter-ident on based on a creature that Humans are instinctively afraid of, Bruce should have more sensibly chosen the name 'Spider Man'.

>>154851638
aren't the web shooters literally his best idea to the point that even Doom is impressed by them?

>>154851963
>>154852027
Honestly this makes the most sense as a compromise and also solves practically every logical problem inherent in the concepts.

>>154851928
that's a pretty good idea

>>154851747
batman has no powers whatsoever, spiderman has incomplete spider powers

>>154851854
He's a real spider, so he eats his organic webbing off-panel to recycle.

>>154851747
yeah but spiders are THE web spinning insect, when you think of webs you think of spiders

>>154852754
*nerd emoji*
ERM ACK-TUALLY SPIDERS ARE ARACHNIDS

its also stupid that spider man could create this miracle one of a kind web solution that could have millions of applications but he never sells it or repurposes it for profit
>but he tried in one comic!!!!
yeah and he should have tried again. peters supposed to be a genius but he's too fucking stupid to try an idea more than once to escape abject poverty?

Mech webshooters destroys the (((anyone can be Spider-Man))) narrative.

>>154852778
shut the FUCK up four-eyes
>*cums on your science textbook*

>>154851423
>>154851638
Him being a super smart inventor even without the spider bite doesn't really work with his character for how it's not integral to his story of being a street wrestler.

>>154851399
Mechanical fags are fags who suck dick. Giant ass fags.

I hate scientist peter. Because then why is he some bumfuck penniless journalist and a not a rich ass engineer? It doesn't make any fucking sense. He should be like a Stark-lite, not some loser living in a single bedroom apartment, scraping by paycheck to paycheck.

>>154852897
Perhaps Iron Boy isn't such a bad direction to push Peter.

>>154851638
Just because you are good at chemistry doesn't mean you can just invent sticky fluid to work as a weapon when you get spider powers. If that was the case we would have web technology by know. Let alone Peter having the budget to create webshooters and web fluid as a high school student and later on a struggling young adult

>>154851721
>>154851638
Marvel has too many scientists, i think its better for him to just be smart instead of some genius inventor whose main weapon is some shit he whipped together in his aunts house on a highschoolers budget, and seemingly never runs out of it

When will idiots learn that Spider-Man isn't literally supposed to be part spider. He could've been fucking anything that sticks to walls.

>>154851399
i feel like people would notice his wrist urethra

>>154851423
I only ever hear this shit from people that watched the Raimi movies and have never once read a comic

He calls himself Spider-Man for branding purposes. Not because of his skillset.

>>154852897
Marvel doesn't want Peter having a stable job/income because he lived paycheck to paycheck when they read it so that must be the status quo forever
Literally. That is the reason. Look up the Spider-Man manifest by Brevoort.

>>154852033
Pretty sure he must have some scrapes from the bats when he messed around the proto batcave as a kid I AM THE TERROR THAT FAPS IN THE NIGHT

>>154851399
did you ever doubt?

>>154853235
a radioactive gecko didn't bite him, a spider did

>>154851764
navel is more likely. that's where our abdomen is. spiders just keep theirs swung out back.

>>154851801
Jesus Christ

>>154851801
Never because he milks himself to put in web shooters. But you know a spiderman writer/editor will write that down and make it an erectile dysfunction joke at Peter's expense.

>>154852897
because marvel editorial hates responsibility man actually being responsible in any way because they grew up with him being a poor college kid

>>154851928
Seriously. Why don't more people take on that concept?

>>154851928
this is my favorite implementation of the concept, its the best of both worlds. peter gets to be smart but not tony stark smart and gets unique spider powers as well

>>154851399
>cool gauntlet
vs
>wrist vagina
I know which one I'd pick.

>>154853773
The only superpower getting bitten by a bat gives you is rabies.

>>154851399
The dumbest part of the movie was "you can't use web shooters and organic webs at the same time Spider-man". Put the web shooters an extra inch farther up the arm or on the the back of you're hand like 90's venom.

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>>154851928
Terrible, the worst of both worlds.
Pick a side for once in your life and fight for it! This isn't a 'middle grounds' issue where you need to complicate things like this to try and please everyone.

>>154851638
>Get told for years that spider-man is the everyman superhero
>read some of his comics
>Turns out he's actually one of the smartest heroes in the Marvel Universe and could easily be a billionaire if he wanted to but his hack writers keep making up retarded excuses for why he can't
Just give him the wrist pussys and slap an average IQ on him already.

>>154855922
what, what's actually wrong with what he said? It technically isn't a middle ground anymore cuz of you going against it

>>154851950
Cop out in the comics either way.

>>154857068
How is having the foresight as to why he doesn't just shill his web fluid a cop out? Ironically it's more of a copout when they just backpedal him being a successful scientist.

>>154851399
functional organic but can be mechanically augmented for superior distance and offensive capabilities.

Mechanical web shooters add to Peter's background as a scientist and engineer, and also provide a consistent source for tension during fights.
Organic webs offer literally nothing to the narrative. They just "feel more right" because they're from the movie you saw as a kid.

>>154851905
It dissolves after an hour or two, which limits its potential uses.

>>154851399
this is how i finger a woman (male). not like you freaks no

>>154852897
>Because then why is he some bumfuck penniless journalist and a not a rich ass engineer?
Because he's fucked up his entire life, since he was literally a teenager, fighting crime instead of doing normal shit like doing well in school and climbing the career ladder. Dudes like Stark and Richards were already incredible scientists and engineers and had built careers for a decade+ before they became super heros.

>>154851399
It just makes sense.
It's like if you were to describe Superman and all his powers and abilities to someone who never heard of him. And then show this person supes flying around and punching meteors and giant robots, etc. Then telling them that he only flies and such because of a jetpack.

If you were to swap out any of Peter's abilities with 'muh technology' and 'muh scientist' it would be just as stupid.
>Here's a man who got bit by a radioactive spider and gains all the abilities of a spider such as:
>enhanced strength; which he actually develops using pills he formulates thanks to the spider bite and his scientist mind. He makes enhanced strength pills that only last 72 hours.
>enhanced spider-like reflexes and reaction time; Which he actually developed a neural link at the base of his spine thanks to the spider bite and his scientist mind. He makes a neural link to help his reflexes but has to be recharged every week.
>the ability to climb up walls and surfaces; Nope. He has to build something to augment that.
>Spidey sense that warns of danger? Nope some doohickey he built that warns of him impending danger.

>>154851399
Organic webs are fucking lame and inherently lack the versatility that a multi-modal web shooter offers.

>Web shooters can shootout various types of web and setting like impact webs, taser webs etc or maybe combustion webs if you creative enough.Con is that web cartridges can ran out and if web shooters is electronic, can easily get bug and jam.
>Organic webs is far stronger than artificial web(stronger than steel irl), long lasting doesn't dissolve/decompose in couple of hours. Con is that organic can temporary ran out of web if Spidey run out of energy and protein and very limited of web shoot out like string of web and small ball of web.

>>154851399
>now spiderman is just a retard that doesnt need to know chemistry

>>154857827
That shit sounds like it could be a godsend in a multitude of practical situations. Construction. Law enforcement.

>>154851747
>Tons of shit spins web
Like what? Serious question

>>154851399
Organic is superior, can hardly be a “Spider” without producing his own damn webs.
If he’s a super genius inventor why the fuck is he the Everyman poor kid living in Brooklyn?

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>>154851423
because a spider bit him and he built web slingers and isn't pants on head retarded like (You).

>>154858116
Good.

Let him actually be your average down on his luck Joe instead of some super scientist.

>>154851594
>makes no sense
are you fucking serious you retard?

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>>154858367
Silkworms, some weird cricket, literally webspinners.
Also there's Spiders that don't spin webs.

>>154858771
Silk should have been bitten by a webspinner.

>>154851399
Shooting sticky white bodily fluid is not as cool as you think.
I kinda actually like how greasy the organic webs look in BND's trailer

>>154851399
The mechanical shooters need extensions that also wrap around the tops of Peter's fingers so he can actually shoot webs.

Index and middle down sets the device into ready mode (while it is ignored if all four are down because that means he's making a fist), then he applies the thumb to shoot the webs once his hand is in the correct gesture.

>>154860173
*middle and ring

Sorry.

>>154853235
Then why is he metaphysically connected to some spiderforce?

>>154851638
>organic web shooters
Allegory for penis and cum. Prove me wrong.
>mechanical web shooters
Allegory for remedy for impotence. Prove me wrong.

I don't see the issue here. MCU Peter is already super smart. The argument that his organic web takes that away is dumb. He was only able to figure out how to control it because he built technology to ease himself into it. A literal mutant inhibitor.

Most of this discourse is kind of pointless since the movie confirmed that Peter physically can't use webshooters anymore because his organic webs will blast through the cuffs on his arms. He also can't then the organic webs off because it limits his other powers

>>154851399
I never understood the issue with the organic webs,
it's the ONE thing spiders do. otherwise he is just "sticky hands-man"
>it's gross
not really. you can find it gross but I'd just think you're a pussy lol

>>154851928
That's pretty much how I've always seen it.
He's got glands that make the webbing, but he doesn't have spinnerets, so he uses brilliant, but realistic technical knowhow to basically give himself prosthetic spinnerets.

>>154860342
That's dumb as fuck, anon. Simply redesign the cuffs so they don't obstruct the wrist pussy.
A simple maglock configuration would suffice.

>>154860390
There is a long rod shaped organ on his forearm that rejects the webshooter

>>154851423
>What's so "spider" about him?
The fact that he chose to be inspired by his bite. That's enough.

My issue with the organic webs approach is how lazy the creators tackling it. Like why the spinnerets on his wrists and not his abdomen like all spiders? If it's magic or genetic altered experiment like Miguel O'Hara, sure that's explained why it shoot web from wrists. Another lazy ways of handling organic webs is treating the same way as artificial webs, organic webs can last longer than artificial because it made of protein. The organic webs can be stronger than steel and if Peter make bulletproof vest entirely of organic webs, it more effective than kevlar.

>>154860557
>Like why the spinnerets on his wrists and not his abdomen like all spiders
This is a dumb criticism and always has been. If you're going to put that under a microscope the entire concept of superheroes getting animal powers breaks this repeatedly.
Spiders don't climb with their palms, they climb with hair on their feet. They also can't just sit on the side of a wall.

This is the mindset that gave us stupid retcons turning Spider-Man into a chosen one

>>154851638
They really don't. They're gimmicky and dumb.

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Mechanical Web Shooters are what Peter Parker adds to Spider-Man. Without them any schmuck that got bitten could have done the same thing

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>>154860571
Raimi at least explained the wall climbing aspects

>>154858568
He is definitely pants on head retarded.

>>154860798
Conveniently no other schmuck got bit by a radioactive spider.

>>154851399
Organic makes unironically more sense than minimized super technology

>>154851399
Based

>>154860805
Tryign to explain it doesn't work. Spider man can literally walk on walls with his feet while wearing shoes. That doesn't make any sense. It can't be that his little hairs are hooking into the wall, that only works for spiders because they are SMALL
It should have always just been "he got the powers of a spider" instead of trying to scrutinize it

Imagine how rich he could've gotten selling the formula and tech for web shooters considering how strong and useful the webs are.

I’m sorry, I really tried to hear the other side out on this but frankly, ALL of the mechanical webshooter supporters have completely retarded arguments. I’m giving this one to the organics.
Spiders spin webs. SPIDER-man should too.

I gel with either but I like web shooters because it allows him to tinker with the design/type of webs and showcases his intellect. You don't get that with organic webbing.

>>154851638
All the retards replying to this lmao

I prefer organic webbing myself. If it's a machine then it's weird that no one else uses it. Iron Man should be using hella web.

>>154865218
Why would he use it when he can solve things with his own tech

>>154865242
Peter is better as a highschool/college student who's relatable instead of a super genius who should have cured cancer by now. The less tech he has the cooler he is. If he gets tech and it gets taken away or if he makes it himself that all gets ruined.

Spider-Man is only good for a short time, once Spider-Man stories go too hard they start to suck ass. Hulk should be his absolute limit and he should get wrecked fighting him.

>>154865288
>who should have cured cancer by now
Web shooters can't cure cancer

>>154865306
>I'm a super genius and one of the smartest people ever.
>cus i was bit by spider.
>can't cure cancer though

spider-man is fucking gay, got it.

>>154865324
Very arbitrary metric

I truly believe all organicfags should kill themselves

>>154865731
>My side is being BTFO'd so the other side needs to just die
KEKKK mechanicalfags are low IQ

I am pro Webshooters only because I like how they look. I think every attempt at a logical argument has been a logical failure


>Peter needs webshooters because they show off his intelligence
The only people who associate webshooters with intelligence are the fans who specifically don't want organic webbing. You reach this conclusion backwards. They have heard this repeated so much they forgot to question it.

To say the webshooters are necessary to show how smart he is implies that the organic webshooters make him less intelligent. That does not work. This version of Peter literally invented webshooters already, it is not possible for organic webbing to take that fact away. If anything it just means he was smart enough to complete his powers before they completed themselves. This argument doesn't work because it doesn't convince people. They hear it and think :"oh, like how the flash is supposed to be a scientist, whatever".

>Why does he have spinnarets on his arms instead of his legs like a real arachnid?
Why can Aquaman swim supper fast without actual fins or a swim bladder?
Every single animal based superhero has to contend with this argument and AT WORST some writer (usually in the 2000s) comes along and decides that they need to make a magical explanation for why Sharkman has the bite force of a shark despite not having the jaw muscles of a shark. This is "Reddit" writing. Yes, Reddit is a trite insult but you are literally complaining about the fictitious element being too fantas-like. That this character created for entertainment didn't plug in a logic hole in the science.

You may as well complain that radiation didn't give him cancer, that a bite from an enhanced spider didn't clot his blood.
Radiation always gives you cancer. You cannot come up with a sound logic system that causes radiation to do good things. Radiation is bad for humans just like lava is.

You know what you can work around? Arachnid appendages. They are not analogous to human parts

>>154851423
Facts

>>154866266
Braindead retard lmao

Organicfags are just loud casuals

>>154851399
>>154851638
It never made any sense how Peter could have the Mr. Fantastic tier gigabrain needed to invent the best adhesive in the world in a single afternoon, yet would also need to work for a shitty newspaper just to make the rent. If he was smart enough to create web fluid on his own, he should be a billionaire like Tony Stark.

>>154856196
>what, what's actually wrong with what he said?
its the most disgusting, least practical solution. web dribbles impotently out of his wrist pussy or sprays uncontrollably, and he needs a medical device to control it like people with stomach cancer need colostomy bags to shit.

>>154867070
Ok how would Peter explain to people that he is using the same web adhesive as Spider-Man? It isn't hard to connect the fact that if Peter grows rich from the same web compound as Spider-Man, they must be connected. How could people trust a man who is Spider-Man, a masked vigilante, to be able to run a company or license out a product to another and for it to be safe and useful? Granted, writers should have had a story where that happens where Spider-Man is speculated to have given his formula to Stark or something for a sum of money while the adhseive is used for transporting materials, fixing broken structures, etc. Then you could have a villain attack and try to demonstrate that the webs could be stopped by a threat like that. But yes, I think an arc where he sells it for use and it is either mishandled or proven to be limited in commercial use could be interesting and also solve this problem.

>>154851399
Make them anus glands and we'll talk

>>154851399
MechanicalWebsissies are why OMD happened. Their refusal to let Peter grow and evolve is why the comics have gone to shit! OrganicGODS will ALWAYS WIN!!!!

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>>154865324
But he doesn't WANT to cure cancer. He wants to be Spider-man.

>>154851928
>>154860384
This is the correct answer. The debate between mechanical vs organics is pointless because the combination perfectly fixes every issue both have, and the only people that can't accept this are genuinely retarded autists.

>>154851399
Organic-GODs keep on winning!

>>154858116
Why can't he be smart but not be Stark Jr? He can show his genius in other ways.