https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRXrbHb3NPg&t=660s
Forgot to attach the link

>>154858149
Well we're gonna get D talking with Stig
Also probably another Boy and Door audio log

>>154858149
I want to see Door whip out the pressure washer

>Marcus unaffected by delirium the entire time he's next to crinos Matilda (I will not call her Hunter of Hunters)
What does this mean?

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Would

>>154858121
You'd need to be able to see Spirits in the first place, though desu manifestations of TF as spirits is an HtP original idea (which is cool as hell, mind you)

>>154858177
The credits list Matilda as Hunts as well

>>154858177
Strong willpower

>>154858190
She's 'Tilda to me, I will not abide this cringe Garou Larp
>>154858191
I doubt he's a 10, he's impulsive as hell

>>154858149
Are there any fucking shapeshifter remotely nice to humans or are they all just varying degrees of apathy towards humanity

Woohoo with Susu

>>154858199
Werefoxes, Werebears (formerly), werelizards (if you aren't a cunt), werespiders. Everyone else is either genetically an asshole or culturally an asshole.

>>154858177
I think the reason why he's unaffected is cuz of the eye thing he got poked with

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>>154858149
Welp looks like it's official, HtP is going hard into the homebrew. Stig isn't just using spirits, he's using spirits based on Scandanavian legend.

>>Milk Hare
>Witnesses claimed these milk-stealing hares moved with a speed that was impossible for normal hunting hounds to match
>Even when a farmer successfully used silver to shoot or bite the hare, it rarely dropped dead on the spot.
Stig would weave through shots one minute, then tank them the next. Given the legend of the milk hare, he probably has to feed it milk to keep it sated

>>Bergfolk
>Unlike a mole that physically claws away dirt, the Bergfolk possess the supernatural ability to slide or sink directly into dirt and solid stone
>these underground beings are the ultimate miners because their digging speed is physically impossible for humans
Seems to match what we saw when Stig was in the hole

>>Gnomes
>The tomte (whose name literally means "homestead man") was believed to sometimes migrate from the abandoned family barn into the new factory or sawmill.
>If factory owners overworked their human staff or failed to respect local traditions, the factory's resident tomte would express his displeasure by snapping drive belts, jamming heavy gears, or causing steam valves to mysteriously fail.
Gnomes are real. We know this.

Stig is not just a werewolf, he's full Swede. Theory crafting just got a hell of a lot harder

>>154858252
Sounds like he’s a woof who has a good relationship with milklings.

>>154858252
>Doing homebrew
It's been a thing we've seen yeah, they've frankensteined together a setting from 20th ed and whatever usable scraps of V5, H5, and W5 there are. Seems they're going for werewolves who aren't eugenicists after all

>>154858264
>milklings
Horse, get off /co/

>>154858277
No *vomits blood on the floor*

>Grimal's retarded ass paddle has always had silver edges
What the fuck??
>Kevin's audiolog has always had howling
Woah

>>154858177
Most likely means Imbued or about to go Mage. I don't think he's 10 Willpower.

Sex with tilda in her war form

Now that a bunch of other people's Marcuss have died trying to save Kitten's Marcus, will he finally show a modicum of gratitude?

>>154858149
Grimal is definitely a ghoul I'm calling it.

>>154858331
He'd better

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>>154858339
Grimal is definitely into butt stuff

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>POV: you're watching Susu make Matilida plushies
>(She tied you up against the wall and her babies are about to hatch inside you)

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>>154858356

>>154858381
Spiders don't lay eggs inside prey.
That's wasps.

>>154858381
I want a Susu plushy

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My retarded woof gf can't possibly be this cute!

>>154858297
They probably just silvered the edges just before the operation started
>>154858487
I wonder how the werewolves would feel knowing that humans find them acting derpy like this incredibly endearing

>>154858501
like most things, angry

>>154858252
>>154858267
>tainting your series with w5 lore
it's over

>>154858525
it's mostly minor stuff like the inquisition

>>154858197
>cringe Garou Larp
The larp was Matilda actually. Hunter of Hunters would have been her birth name.

>>154858264
Horse we talked about this, you can't call them that.

>>154858525
>>154858543
Seems to be the less controversial changes for the most part, Silent Striders were basically untouched, RTs, GWs, etc. I doubt we'd get any deeper in Woof lore. The real crime is in the kinfolk but kinfolk are pretty much absent from any non-Woof game barring skullduggery like kidnapping a Garou's family.

>>154858543
nah, you can see more references to it if you really pay attention. Matilda is in a lunar cult. King Albrecht the cucked. Gaia being "surely dead".

According to the DarkPack agreement you have to use current lore when available so..

Eliwaffle didn't deserve it. Is there not hope for him? Purgatory peeps can still get into heaven after cleansing themselves no?

>>154858567
>>154858487
Say it with me dog-brained anons, Matilda.
M-A-T-I-L-D-A

>>154858606
If there was no hope then he would not be in Purgatory. He just needs to wash off the Wyrm taint.

stig will always be a get of fenris in my heart

>>154858629
And he can do that like scrubbing a bathroom floor.
One tile at a time.

>>154858606
"Your beliefs shaped this afterlife... bla bla bla, welcome to purgatory." Catholic doctrine states that basically all souls that died in god's grace go to purgatory before passing to heaven. So he's just needs to repent for his cruelty in life or some shit and then he goes to heaven.

>>154858149
>Thought we were getting more tacticool walking around/blogging
>Haha funni interrogation
>Whacky exaggerated faces

Okay, this is off to a bad start

>ENTER (aspiring) Black Shuck viking werewolf who doesn't even need warform to kick the gang around
>D going off-script to rescue Markus (this will probably have consequences when it's found out) and Brok becoming a man
>The power of Christ/True Faith actually works BUT THEN viking wolf uses his warform TO OVERCOME IT WITH FAITH IN GAIA
>Cute napping wolves infodump
>Grimal challenging the viking wolf to an honor duel and getting the moral win even if she got squashed because of silver rage
>Main crusader guy gets sent to purgatory because he was genuinely devout but too cruel for Heaven

I take it back. GOOD episode. I won't lie, I was concerned by some of the prior content everyone was having too much fun podcasting and ranting and losing touch with delivering on the actual hunting. Glad that's not the case, and that they're delivering on the Garou being absolutely terrifying before using their full bag of tricks. Between this and KSBD dropping earlier, it's been a whole day of shit being concerning on paper but fun in execution.

Also think they're...SOMEWHAT...exaggerating how fucky spirits are but whatever, it's fun.

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SEX WITH THE SPIDER LADY THAT LOOKS LIKE A COLORSWAPPED ROSE LALONDE

>>154858179
What exactly is this though?
Is iust a were fish? But then why is it in some spirit form here?

>>154858776
it's a spirit ally of theirs, probably the pack totem.

Oh yeah, forgot to add spider shifter gf commercial to the charm points of this episode.

>>154858252
Ah, should've seen this first. That explains it.

>>154858267
>werewolves who aren't eugenicists
Chin up, we haven't seen the rest of the Red Talons yet. Matilda/HoH might still be the most

>>154858525
This >>154858543, if they were declaring W5 had primacy over all the lore that would be one thing, but cherrypicking whatever shit works for your campaign is a grand old White Wolf/Onyx Path tradition.

I would be very, VERY surprised if they have the balls to touch Kindred of the East in greater depth after how sensitive they were about the flipino stuff, and EXTREMELY surprised if they ever start making schizo theory-based episodes about how oWoD was supposed to connect to Exalted before they were officially separated though

>>154858642
SHOCKED he was a Silent Strider honestly, I get that they're making a point about now everyone fitting into their splat stereotype but he is basically werewolf D, he is pure Get of Fenris material.

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>>154858786
It sleeps with them though.

>>154858797
*might still be the most calm and reasonable

>>154858802
probably some sort of animal link to the totem or such.

Watching this five star meal of an episode fills me with joy but also sadness as TTS could've very well evolved to this level of quality as well

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>>154858743
>Pagan larp overcoming Christ

>>154858861
sorry, if someone has more dots in true faith than you, they win

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>>154858861
>Ancient True Faith overcoming wyrm taint parasitizing True Faith in Christ
You should be happy SOMEONE is trying to help the Savior before the worm devours him

>>154858861
it's not actually christ, it's the manifestation of their faith in christ vs his faith in gaia. Their faith was marred by evil demon shit though, possibly the anti-delirium drugs they took. So maybe if they didn't take those they would have actually btfo'd the wolf.

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>>154858769
>LOOKS LIKE A COLORSWAPPED ROSE LALONDE
FUCK

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>>154858899
you thought this was a HTP thread? YOU FOOL.

IT'S HOMESTUCK GENERAL

>>154858891
I am calling it now Benedicte is going to do some crazy shit.

>>154858915
What makes matters worse is that even before this realization, I thought that all Susu's design was missing was some black lipstick
It's over for me

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It's the MYSTERY OF THE DROODS

>>154858861
Depends on how exactly they depict True Faith, but yeah >>154858891 is right. It's not an objective divine grace, it's your faith powerlevel vs their faith powerlevel.

Should've had more dots.

>>154858931
They all have an attitude...

>>154858919
Yeah if there's a character who can get a Messenger to tag in and drop some of those endgame Hunter upgrade powers, it's probably her.

>>154858776
Spirit ally. I think it's vague but typically Garou do get boons or some help from spirits. This group at least does in spades with Matilda having a raven ally and Stig having a rabbit and several gnomes backing him up.

The spider woman looks like she stepped straight out of 1966.

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man, i love the woof gang.
retard Matilda is great, the wannabe black shuck is lovely, the aloof pacifist tech geek is the glue holding them together

>>154858252
>Stig is not just a werewolf, he's full Swede
...dear god

>>154858177
He has been getting manhandled by her for hours. At some point it wears off, right?

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>>154858931
>>154858940
Where The Fuck Are My Scissors Halligan?!

>>154859075
>Go ahead, give me Paradox
>You can't un-break this masquerade

>>154858861
Important to note that it's not really Pagan larping, Woofs unironically worship Gaia and this dude is taking it 1 step beyond doing Theurge (priest) duties when he's clearly an Ahroun (warrior).

>>154858861
That's pretty much WoD. Yes all religions are real and happened, also everything secretly went horrible wrong and your god is getting it's ass kicked.

>>154859172
Oh shit lol, it only just occurred to me folks who don't know wolf lore might think he was just shouting about Gaia as a general hippy battle cry and not know Gaia is the central fixture of wolf religion

>>154859192
Also every human is technically God because God exploded from smiting the fallen angels and the pieces landed in all the humans, but I doubt the show will ever touch on that

>>154859172
Its not Pagan Larping so much as it is Pagan Living and Pagan Living fighting versus Corrupted Christ. You need to be educational given that, frankly, most people here have not read the books, even those which have indeed played the games. Many such cases.

>>154858931
>>154858884
So I suppose this is an example of how different factions easily have information the other sides would really, really like to know. I'm sure the coalition would be concerned that Jesus has a fucking parasite and, despite his holy powers, looks like he is being reduced to a sack of empty skin by it.

What is the condition of Big J in WoD? Does the weird body horror cross and runes mean anything here?

>>154859207
I'm sure they will given how often drugs become a dialogue propelling point.

>>154858861
All of the inquisitors, maybe except Benedicte, read like they're more like schizophrenic zealots fighting on demonic drugs than actual paragons of faith that can make any vampire or woof drop to his knees and beg for forgiveness before Him. They would've stood more of a chance with an automatic shotgun.
>>154859192
That's not really the case though, they're both pretty much using True Faith, and it's explicitly an ability born out of your sheer belief in something that grants you a measure of divine grace. They're not actually summoning the power of Jesus here, but are merely recreating a facsimile out of their zealotry, which is why his image is corrupted, and it can be defeated by a superior faith.
>>154859207
DTF lore is too much for them, but I am sure they'll include them down the line. Faith as a concept very much works with several gamelines and would work excellently here.
>>154859224
He's a near eldritch entity that nobody has any concrete information on, even by WoD's standards. He showed up one day and changed the rules of the game permanently.

>>154859224
It’s not actually Big J, it’s Goomba’s image of him which is being corrupted by Wyrm taint. As for his status he is in heaven with his dad and they’re both just kind of waiting for Caine to stop being an angsty asshole and apologize for killing Abel.

>>154859224
The more interesting question is what do the runes say Anon, not what they might mean. The weird body horror cross is a Revelations quote here and also assumed to be the nature of the Wyrm influencing their Faith, just ctrl Revelations and you'll see the quote on the thread.

Also Jesus is barely mentioned if I recall. He definitely was SOMETHING and real, no supernatural came within a mile of it because he was repellant as fuck and he died. Son of God, weird ass Choirester, Angel but with Divine Roids, its own special thing, who knows.

>>154859212
To be fair if you HAVE read the book then you instead of have adjust for them putting OC and less-dwelled on folklore into the mix instead

>>154859224
Depending on where they're going with this it could mean several things, but my GUESS given the spirits showed Stig the Jesus manifestation is that it's some sort of Umbral manifestation of faith (there are "original" spirits and there are the ones generated by belief; it's not always clear where one begins and one ends, especially in later editions) that is being preyed on by the Wyrm. Which as the cosmic spirit of destruction is (at many, many removes) trying to corrupt anything remotely static/constructive in the world. Such as christianity. In a roundabout way Stig could (if my theory is correct) be seeing the contradiction in the malice and cruelty of the Inquisitors coupled with their notionally selfless devotion.

He just sees that as "a dragon is hollowing out a martyr on a stick" because that's how the above translates into the spirit world

>>154859234
Eh that's just the standard Cult of Ecstasy explanation for why you need to snort cocaine to get Prime 4

>>154859243
>Faith as a concept very much works with several gamelines and would work excellently here.
Yeah I'm thinking they will take some of the general ideas, maybe reframe it in a way vaguely reminscent of the Emprah's protection from their old show to make it more comprehensible to their audience, but skip over shit like the One Giver and Lilith's gardens and Lucifer's rebellion being an inside job and the weirdness about the Yama Kings being confined to preying on Asia by whatever the jade Emperor did as part of their imprisonment. Just as I'm thinking we might get SOME Wraith lore later down the line, but probably never anything about how the Neverborn are the disembodied souls of the Children or Grand Maw.

They can keep whatever force touched Marckus very, very vague until they decide on something. For all we know it's just Umbral Tzeentch. Like, literally the cultural imago of Tzeentch the 40K character.

>>154859207
And how does this relate to all vampires having the theoretical option to become gods in their own right if Caine wasn't a massive elderfag who nerfed all future generations?

>>154858302
if hes about to go mage, the garou better fucking hope they *didnt* kill grimal somehow
mages have a lot of caveats, but NOBODY likes a awakening mage pissed at them
mostly cause on awakning, they temporarily have access to the full power of their avatar, and are essentially super sayian for a few moments
think suddeny turning a whole forest into a glass floor

>>154859278
>theoretical option
Honestly? Strongly depends on which Gehenna end times scenario you take as canon. For example, the idea that the Lasombra Ante was diablerised was eventually retconned. Speaking broadly the vampire curse is a fundamentally distortion in the human way of being stemming from Cain's sin, and any ascendancy vampires obtain is ultimately from being a walking wound in the divine order siphoning greatness from something else. For example, in one of the better outcomes for an Ante Ennoia (the Gangrel Ante) manages to apparently devour and replace the spirit of the Earth by burrowing deep into the planet and simply feasting on it until she can start turning the continents into her jaws. She seemingly chills the hell out after supplanting Gaia.

>>154859295
Ehhh, I don't think they'll give him Wild Talent right out of the gate, that would be crazy overpowered and would basically deflate all tension. I can see them making him fuck up werewolves initially out of their ignorance, only to get fucked up by one of the hunters walking in and forcing paradox on him somehow.

>>154858769
Fucking SEX
How do they keep doing it

>>154859298
>any ascendancy vampires obtain is ultimately from being a walking wound in the divine order siphoning greatness from something else
The diablerie requirement for ascension was God doing a little bit of trolling with the Withering.

>>154859310
i dont think awakening mages are affected by paradox, they *can* go marauder if they bork in their minds tho
its only a one off tho, and like a few minutes later they deflate to level one

>>154859322
I bet God was the one who started spreading the rumour that you could try to diaberlise him and get his powers

>Yeah that's it, take a swing at me
>Go on, see what happens
>Oops, I've been dead this whole time!

>>154859244
>As for his status he is in heaven with his dad and they’re both just kind of waiting for Caine to stop being an angsty asshole and apologize for killing Abel.
No, according to the Demon: The Fallen book, God's missing. They are fallen, but still connected to the Big Man and their unfallen Angel kin. And now? They don't feel their presence in heaven anymore. That's one of the big mysteries of WoD(unless you're going apocalypse and ending the world): The true nature of God, and where the hell he wandered off to.

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>>154859335
Great so now God is just fucking around somewhere and Caine can cope and pretend he was totally going to apologize but can’t since God can’t answer his calls. Fantastic

>>154859335
God missing out on what's going on and waiting for Caine to get his shit together are not mutually exclusive, though. It's entirely possible he left behind Creation to see if things could manage without him and if everyone could get their shit together before he has to crack open the Black Vault and start throwing Exaltations at everyone.

>>154858252
>Alfabusa gave his swedish spawnling a voice role as the rabbit

>>154859224
very big fucking deal, from the same level that made vampires in the first place
problem is, that is not a channel for big J itself
its obviously a wyrm entity siphonning true faith into itself, a mockery of him
its probably why styg got so pissed at it, its an abomination to true faith
never shackle up with the wyrm, its main ethos is corruption and deceit

>>154859345
god either shattered and every human has a piece of him inside their soul which allows them to use true magic, or he fucked off to another reality, which any human can do if they ascend

>>154859345
nah, if caine apologizes, hes immediatly has it on speed dial
he never, ever, will tho

>>154858381
youre more likely to be tied up to make more babies instead of eaten, anon

>>154859364
>he fucked off to another reality, which any human can do if they ascend
Yeah he’s in the Scion universe chilling on a beach somewhere.

>>154858381
That's not how spider babies work

>>154859351
Which is why I say the true nature of God is part of that mystery. Because this also has to coincide with Mage's gnostic belief that God exists as shards of divinity that became the Avatar every human has potential access to.

Is God even still aware of Caine in this shattered state? Is he a powerful Celestine spirit drawn into the multiverse war the Werewolves know about? Did he wash his hands of this universe and chose to make another one somewhere else? Only ones who know the answer are not telling.

Kitten only has one emotion currently and it's SAVE MARCUS. Authors have no fucking idea what to do with him, so he just autistically keeps mentioning how we need to save Marcus, or complains about the team not saving Marcus and by the way why are you not saving Marcus? You forgot that I really like Marcus? We need to save Marcus! Don't you dare say Marcus is dead! The price is great, but we have to do this, for Marcus! duuur marcus duuur marcus huuuuuuuur
duuuuuuuur
huuuuuuuur maaaarcuuuuuus
duuuur save marcus duuuur
my luv marcussss huuur duuuur
huuurcuusss duuurcuuuus
What the fuck is going on? I understand they have a relationship and shit but this is too much he is so fucking annoying.

>>154858199
quite a few
werecats are tricky but generally friendly and helpful
werespiders are weirdoes, but closer to humanity than other shifters cause we both serve the weaver
werefoxes actively hunt for sorcerers and mages to marry with and gain their mystical secrets for their lineage
of course, if youre wyrm touched, they automatically hate you
theyre very rare in comparison to garou tho

>>154859367
Or if Saulot apologises in his place.

>>154859388
He showed a lot of presence of mind during the combat, come on now.

>>154858381
>>154859377
Reminder that the Anansi are sociopaths. They do not understand the concept of happiness like a human, and can never truly feel affection. You may be a useful source of offspring one day. But you may be emergency food the next day and they won't feel bad about ending you for it.

>>154859401
>tremere with a saulot shaped bellybulge
yeah.....

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>>154859388
>What the fuck is going on?
He's spiraling.

>>154858388
>Stig chooses to stay behind and give Grimal a proper burial
Is this going to be a plot point?

>>154859412
You're 20 years behind anon, Tremere got trolled HARD by Saulot and had to go hijack Goratrix after he lost control of his body.

>>154859411
yeah, they wont kill you for shits and giggles tho, and if youre helpful they will likely keep you arround for more than just baby batter
they are borderline emotionless tho, but hey, maybe you can fix her!

>>154858487
>points out the secret passage in the pub's closet >yapped about the claw marks which she herself made
>admitted to meeting Grimal in the security room
It's probably been said before, but it would make sense if Matilda was bound to Hawk to explain how she can infiltrate at all. Forced to tell a truth for every two lies in exchange for more Manipulation dots.

>>154859405
And he showed a complete lack of it during the meeting with the coalition. That whole sequence of negotiations could be boiled down to:
bad terms -> kitten goes "ugh this suck but we have to do this for marcus" with an optional tantrum -> team agrees to the terms -> evil corporate dude goes "ahaah gotcha you aint getting shit enjoy rape"
And it happens over and over again it was baffling every fucking time
And every time Kitten makes the same mistake cuz HUUUR WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS SACRAFICE FOR MARCUS and then goes THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU PROMISED HOW COULD YOU????
Forfucksake
And then all of that was washed away by a last second ass pull, which was fine, but the whole thing was ridiculous
I fear something similar will happen where Kitten will sabotage evertine cuz SAVE MARCUS HUUUUR and will be saved at the last second by Marcus awakening or the wrath of God smiting everyone to fix Kittens fuck up

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>>154859453
French heritage

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>>154858149
I can't wait to see the many fanarts of Spider Lady.

>>154858609
>M-A-D-I
NO
>M-T-I-D-L
NO, FUCK
>M-A-T-L-I
FUCK WHY SO THIS HARD

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>>154858252
>Even when a farmer successfully used silver to shoot or bite the hare, it rarely dropped dead on the spot.
Ah so then the Inquisition goons may in fact have been using silver bullets the whole time and all those people whining about bad writing in the last thread were wrong eh?

>>154858769
She's also dressed like Kanaya. And is as British as Kanaya.

>>154859317
Eliphus draws porn on his alt account that's how

>>154858861
The inquisition goons aren't exactly model christians. Remember that Kitten somehow knows more about catholic doctrine than these bozos do.

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>>154859457
What was this zardoz stuff then?

>>154859500
luv 'tilda but a plush is a bit too autistic for me.
if it was a keychain or something more subdued i would have gone for it

This is your reminder that Jam Technology (Although I think he was using a variant of Gremlins) is to be feared and respected. So many Fostern gifts are practical as hell.

>>154859418
>The fucking Swedish Black Shuck larper has more honor and decency than the majority of the cast
Honestly, I like all the wearwolves more than the rest of the characters.
Shame they're all going to die horribly when Pentex swoops in at the eleventh hour of this hunt.

>>154859317
>Sex Appeal: Despite their somewhat detached nature, Ananasi can be just as, if not even more of, sexual predators than the Garou. This works identical as Animal attraction for Garou (in older editions the difficulty depended on the user's own Rage, so Ananasi were instead given a difficulty of 4). The Ananasi do this by consciously spreading pheromones.[1] Many Ananasi use this as a way to get to feed blood from humans. Except in very unusual circumstances this ability only works in Homid and on ordinary humans. Supernatural creatures are generally immune, though they may still be impressed, and have their interest piqued that way.[I]
Werespiders are just naturally extra sexy I guess

>>154858861
>christ
it wasnt, it was wyrm worship larping as christian
a propper christian true faith would pack a lot more punch, but its stupidly rare, you'd need to be a sait to call on it
its mockery was even called out, he was disgusted to what they did to the image of big J

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>>154859500
What a time to pause

>>154859554
Ananasas greatest trick was making her chosen Fera hot as fuck to humans. Truly the Weaver is the sanest member of the Triad.

>>154859515
>his alt account
What is it?

>>154859547
>This is your reminder that Jam Technology (Although I think he was using a variant of Gremlins) is to be feared and respected.
Doesn't that shit work on even literal stone age tech? No shit it's to be respected.

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>>154859508
>scandi cringelord hyper warrior magically gets gift that stops him from being shot with silver at all
>somehow fixing the nature of the writing sucking
No then you shift into other avenues of it sucking

>can dodge silver but got donked by a fucking paddle wielded by a weaboo so the gift sucks ass I guess?
>still actually got shot and hit but nothing did anything substantial anyways so it doesn't matter because probably uhhh nobody else was using silver anyways so all it did was avoid bullets that weren't harming it substantially anyhow so the gift was again useless?
>the level of power it has is either hilariously inconsistent (bad) or actually just so busted assuming silver was actually used that by all means it should be unkillable in any way shape or form (john sue wolf, horrid) and any fight with it immediately requires immense suspension of disbelief as nobody is able to fight something that can avoid bulletfire and be immune to fighting short of going easy on them for no reason (where they then sperg if hurt and tard kill you)

Hype moments and aura is all the wolves have right now, and its not even that much aura given the scandinavian niggerbabble. The more you try to actually look into them the less interesting or cool they even are.

>>154859445
Yeah because it had been maybe a couple of hours since Marky got nabbed

He's cooled down somewhat to be tactically minded.

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>>154859574
https://x.com/Fimifff

Importantly about our Shuck LARPer is that he got burned by silver in his Homid form. That fucker's either Lupus or Metis

>>154859594
nta but THAT'S his alt account?
I've been following it for ages and had no idea

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THAT SPIDAH BIT ME WHERE THE GOOD LORD SPLIT ME!
HURT!

>>154859594
That is remarkably disappointing

>>154859594
>try to check it
>twitter doesn't even let me check their shit because I'm not age verified
FUCK

>>154859603
The artstyle is the exact same, it's him.
>>154859607
I didn't say it was gonna be to everyone's taste. But hey, he takes comms we might see Susu SnuSnu yet.

>>154859592
>>scandi cringelord hyper warrior magically gets gift that stops him from being shot with silver at all
This is actually my complaint too because our characters have been acting like complete incompetent jackasses, and a guy who's probably a Rank 3 can't rape them to death in 2 turns? Even the weakest Garou are incredibly lethal, and this guy was so good that he rendered their only advantage useless. Hell, he even powers through their True Faith because they're high on wyrm drugs and his faith is apparently stronger. Matilda feels like a much more balanced antagonist than this guy, and most high-ranking Garou don't feel nearly as invincible as him.

>>154859630
>we might see Susu SnuSnu yet.
One can dream...

>>154859592
>>can dodge silver
Was using a spirit

>got donked by a fucking paddle wielded by a weaboo so the gift sucks ass I guess
Wanted to """honor duel""" a tiny girl with a wooden paddle he was too stupid to see was lined with silver and underestimated.

>>still actually got shot and hit but nothing did anything substantial anyways
Remold is using phosphorus rounds still. You can tell because he has the same exact reaction as Matilda in the chapterhouse.
>nobody else was using silver anyways
Did you notice he took out the gunners first
Dodged their bullets and killed em

I agree it's hype moments and aura farming tho

>scandinavian niggerbabble
Are scandis white or white niggers?
I always keep getting conflicting information..

>>154859626
Change the address to xcancel

>>154859637
Yeah, I think they kind of blew their load with Matilda and now have to balance every antagonist around living up t her aura.

>>154859640
>Are scandis white or white niggers?
>I always keep getting conflicting information..
Whiter than their immediate neighbours to the east.

My actual worry is that they've made Stig into a Silent Strider just so he could aurafarm on the Inquisitors, considering they have a direct history with Jesus and are a deeply spiritual section of Garou. When he accepted Grimal's challenge, he 100% read to me as a Get, because only a fucking Get would accept a "fair duel" with a yaoi girl with a wooden paddle due to their incredible fighting autism.

>>154859638
>dream
just wait until his comms open back up and see if you can afford it dawg

>>154859554
yeah, spooders are inherently sexy
but other were beasts tend to be too, by virtue of their human form being peak health and performance
dont try to get attached to them tho, their idea of romance is.....yeah

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>>154859445
How many times are we going to rehash the fuck ups in the meeting?
We're already past all that shit let it go already.

to be fair, theyre all collectively high off pentex battle drugs

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Any of you know what this plant is?

>>154859673
its a feather

>>154859666
>dont try to get attached to them tho, their idea of romance is.....yeah
It's too late
I'm falling for the spider plushy maker

>>154859668
Drugs that cause brain damage no less.

>>154859418
>>154859548
So i'm not up to date with how stuff work in the WOD game but isn't there something where you can get out of something that would've killed you if you rolled good and/or the person running it looked the other way and say okay or like the idea so Grimal might've been alive because it cool to have her alive if near death

>>154859654
I hate the concept of aurafarming. It seems to create this idea that a character is trying to be badass when most cases I don't think so. It's a shallow view of them.

Far as I can tell, this was less to show Stig as some badass, and more to show that Big D was right in that normal humans should NOT FUCK WITH WEREWOLVES

>>154859686
even if shes a ghoul, its very unlikely
if she is, she *could* survive, but if shes human, no shot

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>>154859640
Okay, you need extra explaining.

In a story, if the one weakness of the one antagonist is entirely negated by their powers, this means they are effectively unkillable. If they are strong enough, they are effectively unkillable short of Deus Ex Machina, or in other words, Completely Unsatisfying Plot Bullshit Asspulls. If the scandinavian barbarian bigger than D that can split people open with axes isn't even weak to Silver and has battle regen and a war form, he is utterly unkillable if we take him seriously.

If we take him seriously, which we should as a story should be taken seriously or with consistency rather than as a beer and pretzels fuck around tale, then inconsistencies like magically eating shit to a loser weaboo is bad. Remolds shit being healed in 3 seconds means he's still unkillable, being stabbed by likely silver dagger on a revolver is also probably bad. He took out gunners but even when shown to be shot a few times it did nothing to him.

The antagonist is unkillable. The antagonist is even immune to True Faith which is effectively Magick in here. The antagonist killed like 40 men with LMGs and maybe silver bullets and literally can't be harmed for real by its one weakness. This is dogshit and sets up for incredibly unsatisfying ass pulls to resolve the John Sue antagonist that cannot actually be harmed, especially after now all we have left is what, 5 dipshits and one supreme asshole named D? Hype moments and aura and bad writing and garbage settup.

>Are scandis white or white niggers?
Normal enough scandis are white, agressive viking larpering murderers with zero empathy are white niggers. White niggers speak niggerbabble, which was not what our gnome loving Coalition guy was speaking.

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>>154858149
>D going duo with ragetard for an ambush
What the fuck is he going to prove against 2 woofs?, or We'll get the Mummy reveal on the next episode i suppose?

>>154859673
Phoenix Down.

>>154859700
I think we're gonna see the culmination of a lot of bad things happen
>Markus awakens because he watches Grimal die
>Markus' awakening attracts The Thing he contacted as a child
>Everyone loses something
>Palmer and Co sweep in to kidnap Boy while no one can stop them
>Door dies
>So begins the Mage arc

>>154859692
I mean no shit she isn't human because there is a whole ep about it unless she is somehow awaken into being mage without knowing and magic herself into being hard to kill like someone from one of her Japanese animes

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>decimates the crusaders and checked their True Faith
>cannot even stomp the fujo in 1v1 fight
What the fuck is Stig stats if it's on TT?, for a battlelust tard, he's seems really weak

>>154858769
Did they really need to make her so sexy?
Her human form is pretty cute, too

>>154859732
well...there is a thing she *could* be
i kinda hate it cause its such a special snowflake concept, but it does exist and explains a few things
revenant, a human that, essentially, got ghouled in the womb
theyre less ghouls and fully damphyrs, all the benefits of ghouldom with no need to get vitae since they produce their own, thus likely to not get bloodbonded, usually are tho since they usually only get to live as clans of ghouls that serve masters across the generations
kinda overpowered in a marysue way

>>154859334
Erciyes was Malkavian while Cappadocius was in torpor under the mountain and dreaming about angels gassing him up. It was just a prank, bro.

>>154859738
hes too affable to not be a massive larper

>>154859738
>cannot even stomp the fujo in 1v1 fight
To be fair, she's clearly not human and I'm pretty sure he was holding back somewhat expecting her to be a regular person. He was surprised when she stopped one of his swings and he DID stomp her after his tardrage.

>>154859738
>>154859743
>>cannot even stomp the fujo in 1v1 fight
Given how Grimal's head wasn't puree after he let it go mean somehow she is very strong or at least strong enough to not make her head get made into puree on the ground by the wolf who wasn't holding back

>muh wyrm
>muh Methuselah
>muh fae
>muh daemons
>Imagine dealing with supernatural garbage at all
Join the Technocracy today! Kill all reality deviants!

>>154859760
>my supernatural beliefs are better than yours!
nah

>>154859752
And yet her head still remain whole by the end of it

>>154859738
He's obviously a loser shmuck carried by his warform, while she is a human (or a ghoul) with 5 in all Physicals. She's probably not even dead.

>>154859717
Everything you said is on point except
> Markus awakens because he watches Grimal die

Grimal is already dead this episode.
I see a lot of cope in these thread, but you need to accept she isn't coming back.
The next episode won't begin with Markus watching the events of this episode via werewolf remote-viewing magic or something either.
He'll awaken because he witnesses 'the patriarch masters lunar, but ends hamstrung. He will wish death on his flesh, but no mercy will be given for none he hath gave.'.
The character he parallels in TTS holds a psychotic hatred of Lemen Russ (Ross the Spiral dancer) and the space wolves (Garou in general).
I expect to see that trait mirrored here.

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I'm not too well versed in finnish magics or crryptid mythos stuff, but what're the chances of something or someone specifically finnish making an appearance in this series?
I only remember one offhand mention of "Suomi" in how Big D sent his kids to Finland to learn math.

>>154859758
>Given how Grimal's head wasn't puree after he let it go mean somehow she is very strong or at least strong enough to not make her head get made into puree on the ground by the wolf who wasn't holding back
You cannot *train* your skull to be stronger.
She's either innately inhuman or changed into something inhuman.
Since Stig didn't instantly clock her as especially wyrm tainted, that rules out a fair few possibilities.

So show of hands will Marckus or Kitten awaken and somehow bullshit Grimal back to life or somehow turn back time to make her be alive because i put money on Marckus cause i don't think he will care about the consequences of his action

>>154859770
The protagonist of My Summer Car makes a cameo as a techno-mage who evicerates Garou on his funny car before his alcoholism kills him.

>>154859769
>I see a lot of cope in these thread, but you need to accept she isn't coming back.
I am entirely convinced she may be alive because her death flags were so obvious that every youtube comment was pointing it out.

>>154859788
And if there one character who will somehow pull an anime death and rebirth it would be her

>>154859777
>Grimal probably won't revive.
>D 'masters' the Garou, but is gravely crippled as a result.
>Markus might awaken to True Magic.
>Door gets killed by Pentex.
>Boy maybe gets kidnapped by Pentex.
>Kitten witnesses the previous two points, but is powerless to stop it.

Unrelated.
I do not like Kitten in HtP.
Putting him in a relationship with Markus was a mistake.
It is become increasingly clear there is little to his character beyond his relationship with Markus, and that makes him immensely unpleasant to watch.

>>154859769
Until I see her appear in a post credits scene and being sent to either heaven or hell, I ain't believing shit

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>>154858252
They should've accepted his help.
He was experienced in these matters

>>154858149
list of plot threads so far (pls add if any missing)
>kevin's sister
>grimal clearly being the ghoul
>the ghoul
>ross
>Grandad Foodstuffs/Pentax knowing Door knows
>90s with Anthony & Marcus demon summoning
>Kittens house ownership
>Kittens family
>smurpels status
>D's "reckoning"
>99p store
>what is horse
>Black robes black lady
>The briefcase

>>154858149
Pretty dissonant in the first part but locked in better once the fight started. Feels like all the parts were there but they got assembled wrong, like a master editor could have really made a difference.

>>154859763
Her head remained whole despite the stone underneath it being shattered more with every punch. Her skull is just actually bulletproof.

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>>154859848
also subreddit had 2 different bingos (picrels is the better one) but they both arent that great. who wants to start a good ch7 bingo? here's my spots
>grimal is alive
>grimal fate still unclear
>markus befriends woofs
>leopoldite gabriel returns
>brockum fucks up
>d fucks up
>something from 3 years back shows up
>d lore

>>154859859
I don't know what more you need to know that she isn't human because i don't think any normal human can have their skull remain whole after all that

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i'm somewhat familiar with vamps and woofs, but can i get a primer on mages?
what do they do? at what level do they operate in the infinite stacks of secret societies?
why do people keep saying marus/boy might be mages?

>>154859883
see norfolk wizard game episodes, but mainly the first half of chapter 2 which is the infodump. mostly doing their own civil war but are in all practical terms the main stewards driving the ship of wood even if they are really incompetent

>>154859880
I was agreeing that she isn't human.

>>154859883
True Magic, which is decidedly distinct from sorcery, works solely off of perception and pure willpower.
It can essentially rewrite reality with no upper limit, though there a few asterisks and bottlenecks in regards to its usage.

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>>154859696
kek, good image man
>>154858931
this is quite humorous since im actually going to continue dming my technocracy one shot (now twoshot) with my friend, I intend the sketchy exterminators showing up at wikimedia headquarters to be halligan and melanie

>>154859883
There are two kinds of human mages
Awakened, who do True Magic
Sorcerers, who do Linear Magic

Occam is a sorcerer. They can do magic that they know how to do. It's a specific, learned discipline that just about anyone with the smarts can learn. It takes years of study, beyond being in the know about the supernatural. This is the "traditional" wizard. Hard to learn, cumbersome to master, limited in scope.
Awakened are reality benders with extra steps. You can't study to become one, some people simply awaken to the gift at some point in life. They use free-form magic empowered by their will and beliefs about reality. However, in order to not get their shit slapped by reality or the collective magical unconscious of humanity, they have to do the exact same shit sorcerers have to do unless they are very experienced.

Markus has done magical shit without suffering paradox, but that might also be the (now gone) chair. He's also immune to the delirium which is almost impossible for a normal human to be. Also because he's based on Magnus, who was one of the most powerful wizards in their previous series.

I really liked this episode, even though Stig made me cringe. I know he's the type of character that appeals to Alfabusa specifically, though, so I'm not too upset about it, but...
>So ja maj wherewuff ist en supar-specialle Skandi berserkergang whu hast Skandinafian gubbar und aelso hast die Truj Fayeth
I'm aware these characters are par for the course in WOD, it's just jarring to see one in HTP, since we've mostly just got scrubs and backwoods loser supernaturals so far.

>>154859930
Even by WoD's standards, this guy approaches the level of Samuel Haight at least in terms of his personality and presentation. He's more of a PC who basically took over the whole chronicle with their antics and doesn't give a fuck about much else, which is pretty on par with Werewolf's themes.

>>154859900
I know

>>154859938
I have money on this being some type of backdoor pilot for a spin off about the wolves

>>154859775
which is odd, cause if she *is* a revenant, the most active clan in norfolk is tremere, which would not give her access to endurance as a ghoul, or potence
she should be just a little more resilient than human, not "survive getting pulped by a crinos garou" level

>>154859938
I will admit, I was expecting a PC-level supernatural at some point, I just didn't expect it to be one of the werewolves. I expected it to be a Dark Ages Vampire player character instead.

You guys complain about Stig being a mary sue, but you haven't even seen the shit Mages will do.

>>154859952
Everything point to her being 100% not baseline human or human at all and is ghoul or an awaken mage who somehow didn't know she is one

>>154859956
I know perfectly well what NWG will get up to, eventually, it's just jarring, the spike in pure power. Juiced Pyotr was one thing, and he handled the diablerie flawlessly, but it wasn't the sheer cliff of Stig being able to solo a whole squad (of actual military numbers, around 12 riflemen) or more of silver-armed and armored personnel with True Faith... mostly in Homid form, mostly switching out to Lupis rather than Crinos.

>>154859883
complicated cause when we say "mage" its not really a traditional wizard, although they exist
its basically a human that awakened a fragment of God everyone carries which gives them direct controll over creation limited by their paradigm as dictated by their avatar (the said divine fragment that you carry through literal life and death through all your reincarnations)
at low levels theyre just parlor tricks, but higher they start pulling reality breaking shit
think less "i cast fireball" and more "i will use my computer and paadigm as focus to literally hack reality and open a gate to outer space to drop you there" or "i will use kung fu to literally ki blast you or turn my body to living metal to beat your ass to shit" the possibilities are literal endless
with the catch that if a sleeper, a normie, sees you, reality kicks you in the dick since "their" shard enforces the collective accepted consesus
and it kicks you hard

>>154859984
>think less "i cast fireball" and more "i will use my computer and paadigm as focus to literally hack reality and open a gate to outer space to drop you there" or "i will use kung fu to literally ki blast you or turn my body to living metal to beat your ass to shit" the possibilities are literal endless
Ah so anime and film bullshit

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>>154859956
Do you think your are very clever when you point out we aren't complaining about hypotheticals in our head that don't exist instead of stuff that does actually exist? Yes Anon, mages can be mary sues, they can also get shot by a BMG or walk into a landmine and eat shit, but the thing that exists now is Stig being a John Sue and that's what's actually real.

Do you want me to rave on about hypothetical misalocations of kino in the show? Do you really want me boxing ghosts of Future HtP Fuckups in the Umbra? Get real.

>>154859992
nta but they can just cast fireball but that's pretty boring

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>>154859992
if your dm allows it, sure
its higly encouraged to not be that stupid and be subtle
like, for example, using your magic to fire a gun without reloading or give your bullets a little extra kick
afterall, who's gonne be counting and who's to say i *didnt* load a few dragon's breath rounds? or that the granade i threw wasnt special and just happened to blow up so hard it makes a mushroom cloud
basically, the fun mages are reality con artists

Why is Stig so fat? Did he eat the goth?

The lead artist has a huge fetish for heavy set barrels-shaped men with hefty guts and gynecomastia.

It's getting to the point where it's distracting when four out of five men seem to have this sort of figure.

>>154860003
So it run on if someone think it should work that mean it will work

>>154859995
>they can also get shot by a BMG
Only if they skip their morning ritual of anti everything wards that require a mere 2 dots in any sphere according to mage fags.

>>154860011
>>154860014
Isn't Alfabusa led by a gigantic mega yaoifag who likes those mangas about burly fat men having sex? All of that bleeds into every work they make.

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>>154860003
You can also just go full Taftani and say coincidental magic is for pussies.

>>154860018
Mage Fags are unreliable as fuck when it comes to the game reality given frankly they are already rare as players and rarer as GMs and rarer as both that have actually read the books properly. A lot of them make shit up or make Mages to be actually unkillable, which is both untrue and also veers into fanfiction given you still have rolls for shit all the time.

TOMTEGUBBAR ARE REAL! THEY ARE REAL!

Eldrad and Vect will eventually appear as fae won't they?

>>154860016
essentially, yes
its when people pull vulgar magic that shit gets silly, but thats literally endgame tier and mages that get that strong are literally banished from reality and go live in the umbra cause theyre literally too strong to exist
also mages are allways at the risk of rolling very bad and literally exploding if they go vulgar or even if theyre subtle and the DM hates them

>>154860029
I like the Taftani, they act like Mages used to inspite of paradox and bravely exploded into non reality because fuck it, they are gonna bind jinn, ride flying carpets and turn tigers into women even if the consensus reality tells them nuh uh

>>154860043
>mages that get that strong are literally banished from reality and go live in the umbra cause theyre literally too strong to exist
It's more that they get too divorced from the consensus. They're like Marauders but without the power to make the paradox buildup someone else's problem.

>>154860018
Stacking that many defensive effects would get costly very quickly, and while high spheres will allow you to make an efficient defence, it's easier to just kill your threat or use Forces to make yourself invisible by bending light so you get the fuck out of there.
>>154860033
It's a game of opinions, even the books can't really give you a concrete way to run the game, only the general outline. All the horror stories you hear about mages raping everyone and everything in a single roll comes from people who do not meaningfully engage with any edition, which stress that Magic shouldn't come easily, especially the kind that twists reality on their cocks. Some DMs are massive pushovers.

>>154860043
I wonder how many mages just make their living doing magic on the street while dressed for the part

>>154860018
That's Mage the Awakening, which allows you to shield yourself from an Arcanum with two dots in it.
Mage the Ascension is much more limiting. "I ward myself against everything for a day" would be a ritual so demanding that it would take longer than a day and demand heap of successes, and it would require way more than two dots in every Sphere.

>>154860061
>making a living by slapping your cock on the table and daring the Technocracy to take a swing at you
Too based to exist

>>154860029
>My child, you have awakened
>Will you, A: Slowly and subtly influence the local consensus reality through entertainment, propaganda, government influence, grassroots creators and promises of Genetically Engineered Catgirls for Domestic Ownership
>Or
>Will you, B: Use vulgar magic at any and all opportunity to blast a hole in the local consensus by simply walking through town with a cloak made of four seasons, boots enchanted with pigeon feathers, rings of power and a giant tome filled with Power Words use will use at any moment, for any reason.

reminder: when someone starts talking about how OP mage is, they're probably an awakeningfag coming from game with loose mechanics that you can break in two even if you're retarded

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>no stinky bone gnawer gf (gaia freind)

>>154860070
>>154860061
If you dressed the part and talk the talk i'm sure you won't just blow up because the world think this type of thing is normal right

>>154860082
as if other gamelines dont have equivalent powescaling bullshit
garou are baseline just better than others and elder vampires can break reality worse than mages and use them as fleshlights if they cry "paradox!" at it

>>154860082
The anon complaining about mages being overpowered is probably a /wodg/ veteran.
For over half a decade, back when CofD was more popular than WoD, Awakeningfags loved to constantly masturbate to the power level of Awakening mages.
Even though no one has talked about Awakening for three or four years since CofD was killed off, a lot of people are still scarred by Awakeningfags and project that on Ascensionfags.

Ascenionfags are way less guilty of power level arguments and way more guilty of bullshit metaphysical debates.

>>154860105
i know, awakening is just where this shit gets the worst because it's players kinda built a culture around this bullshit
>>154860109
>Ascenionfags are way less guilty of power level arguments and way more guilty of bullshit metaphysical debates.
yeah this, ascensionfags prefer to wank traditions/technocracy and argue over who's more metaphysically right (or they bully other gamelines with esoteric lore)

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I had to admit, this series interest me to WoD the same as TTS and Vermintide games, What's the Ciaphas Kain and Gotrex and Felix novella equivalent of this Franchise, or is it just purely TTRPG loredumps?

>>154860091
wouldnt a glass walker nerd GF be better?

>>154860121
Most of the novels are really fucking old and no one cares as much about them as Black Library stuff.

>>154860109
Mages are the same as Vampires when it comes to their powerlevels. Sure the higher levels are absolutely fucking ridiculous, but those are uniquely exceptional and only a handful of individuals. Everyone else ranges from useless fodder to okay if working in a group. Mages are really cool, but both sides are guilty of forgetting how easy it is for Paradox to absolutely fuck even a powerful mage. Especially if they're trying to use more vulgar or esoteric abilities that stray further from consensus.

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>>154860014
>heavy set barrels-shaped men with hefty guts and gynecomastia
It was like looking in a mirror.

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>>154860091
>>154860132
give me a silver fang mommy please

>>154860146
Werewolves are supposed to be athletic and not fat, btw.
What the fuck is this moron eating, is he a secret Glasswalker or what?

>>154860137
Even at high power levels in Ascension, "I'm going to set up my daily ward that protects me from everything" is still going to be a ritual that takes over a day, even if the mage is technically capable of it.

It's far more likely that these supremely powerful mages spend a week or two warding their own personal bunker dimensions and never dare set foot outside of them, out of paranoia and a disinterest in the outside world.

>>154860153
He's following the /fit/ advice of building mass. Drinking cartons of milk daily. Probably why he has the Milk Hare spirit on contract

>>154860134
Wow that fucking sucks, i'm still not ready to delved into VtM Bloodlines, are there games that explored woofs while the series is on woof arc?

>>154860160
All of the Werewolf the Apocalypse video games are shit.
Basically the only good World of Darkness video games are Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines (not 2) and Vampire the Masquerade Redemption.

>>154859738
He was suffering a -4 penalty due to trying to fight honourably against what he thought was an ordinary British fujo WITHOUT his racial weakness

>>154860165
The hunter game for Xbox was good too.

i like ascension cause i can play as a renegade technocrat whose *magic* is just implausible modern gear and weaponry and maybe a few implants and can roleplay as a sort of renegade pmc cabal like that
awakening you just have to be on some anime bullshit without recourse
sure, my idea isnt *that* strong, but it fun as fuck

>>154860160
I haven't played the Book of Hungry Names yet, but the Beast of Glenkildove is a great CYOA bookgame about a Werewolf chronicle from the Hunter's perspective.

>>154860185
On the other hand, you're boring for taking a game about being a magical mage and just making a generic Call of Duty tacticool operator.

>>154860190
nah, youre boring

>>154860160
All of the good wolf games are CYOAs
They fucked the woof action game SOMEHOW

>>154860153
White hair and dense visceral fat around the gut is usually a sign of prolonged stress and alcoholism.

>>154860195
>>154860189
CYOA VNs are not games.

>>154860203
I'd like to see the people who insist on that get through a route first try in an old school dating sim.

>>154860190
Blame Technocracyfags for ruining everything.
>Actually our technology is magic too, and we're just wholesome misguided chunguses who want to help humanity live in safer conditions!!

>>154860203
Good news, it's not a VN. It's a bookgame, as I said, and it has way more choice than anything based on a JVN.

>>154860190
The traditions tech-mages have cool theming too. Giving yourself a Star Wars blaster and shit like jetpacks or a Cyberpunk wrist-mounted hacking device and schlocky action movie hacking powers is a bit more fun than tacticool LARP when you're working with other players who aren't special agents.

>>154859930
>>154859938
It's funny, I broadly agree with you on the facts of his character but I don't mind because as I said earlier: I see Stig as basically D but as a werewolf and more of a berserk Scandi than a berserk pansexual of unclear ethnicity (other than vaguely Turkish because Emprah reference). Which is to say that while he may be physically stronger, he hasn't been proven to be on the same level of "how does this fucker even exist in the setting relative to what he is"

Big D has by now been established to be able to not just resist the Delirium of merely witnessing a Garou, but fight Matilda and NOT end up as red mist. I'm still not sure if his eyes glowing gold and his wounds healing mid-combat is rule of cool or a hint at the Mummy reveal. Despite being an ADD chaos goblin he is on the ball enough to have allegedly encountered an Antediluvian, be aware of the mage-vampire accords and seems aware of fairies. He SUCCESSFULLY enlisted Kevin and a ghoul into HIS funny crusade, foiled Kevin's powers earlier by getting high and screaming, and one of his sons is a horse.

From the moment this show started, I have simply accepted that Big D is Samuel Haight but funnier and more charismatic. Unless it turns out Stig is secretly Mike Dragons-Wrath's nemesis and they fight for dominant hometown Swedish tabletop gaming stores as well as on good terms with the Wraiths, I am just unphased by the writers doing a little self-indulgent wanking relative to them opening with an uber-hunter that doesn't look neraly as scarred as Samuel.

>>154860066
It's funny how Mage the Awakening technically has a lower ceiling (Ascension is merely taking your place among the ineffable supra-real idea-beings who engage in retroactive cold war with each other for dominance. Earth is still cosmologically significant even to beings like the Exarchs for vague idea-based reasons) than Mage the Ascension (Ascension in it's strongest forms are either beckoning eldritch horrors from beyond space and time to turn reality into a neverending Hell, or every human on Earth unlocking the 10th Sphere Telos and becoming a harmonious godhead so powerful that everyone gets everything they ever wanted-even the Nephandi and Marauders secluding themselves into private Hells without bothering anyone) even though in between getting to the pinnacle of power, Mage the Awakening's actual game design is more suitable for powerwanking (if you ignore Masters of the Art)

>>154860044
>turn tigers into women
Holy fucking BASED

>>154860275
You can safely ignore Masters of the Art because even its writers hate it.

>>154860278
>Technocratic Feminists HATE this one neat trick

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>Like the show
>Don't understand half the shit you anons are talking about
I don't think I'm cool enough to hang, fellas...

>>154860105
HEY, be fair: Wraith doesn't really go anywhere exciting, Changeling is about fighting for your fucking life because tax forms and science are corroding your soul, Kindred of the East doesn't provide rules for it's bodhisattva vampires OR for giving into the dark side and becoming a new Yama King, and while theoretically Demon could become godlike with enough humans praying to one the entire premise of the game is that your kind have burnt so many bridges that you're forced to engage with a ruined husk of a world now that all your old hopes and ambitions have become utter shit and your old boss is some kind of abomination enslaving jeets so that he devolve his powers into raping souls and reality.

>>154860153
Probably following the same line of thinking that made the God of War Ragnarok devs make Thor fat because

>realistic powerlifter physique

Or some shit

>>154860290
All you need to understand is Authority BAD Individuality GOOD unless you're working for EVIL ok nonny?

>>154860190
>boring
>when you have basic witches, boring warlocks, african shitpost shamanism, viking larping, gooners and *le hacks the world with le calculator* mages around

Dude you don't know just how lame you can be out there. This is frankly workable and can be cool, but the other shit can be so dreadfully lame it makes a protestant nun look great.

>>154860291
to be fair, wraith is literally just to roleplay drama and politics, fighting isnt really part of it
i dont think anyone likes playing it, but likes the idea of it existing in the background
unless something nukes it, but you know

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its a shame cause this pack of woofs seems like a fun bunch to be arround

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>>154859500
be sure of that

nsfw ver.
https://files.catbox.moe/u8fqkw.png

>>154860307
>i'm so terrified of looking cringe by playing a character who is wacky in some shape or form that i put the most generic basic bitch shit on a pedestal
While you're playing Tacticool Operator #379, I'm playing a crazy old Wiccan wine aunt who uses the blood and semen of numerous men who she has date-raped to perform a ritual that will unleash an unending swarm of flesh-eating wasps from her vagina that will devour her enemies.

>>154860290
For what it's worth, if you actually did know what some of us were talking about you would be in perpetual extreme pain about what W5/V5 has done to the gameline, White Wolf being more fixated on writing edgy stories than putting out functional game mechanics, White Wolf SIMULTANEOUSLY being strung up by the balls by retarded corpos who made them make unfitting supplements like Masters of the Art in the belief they'd sell or actively kneecapping other gamelines out of fear they'd compete with themselves and make less money, White Wolf no longer even existing because of a retarded Dracula LARPer accidentally causing a mild international incident that forced the company to rebrand into a shittier one called Onyx Path that despite trying to be more virtue signal-y somehow managed to keep an ACTUAL sex best around long enough to finish developing Beast the Primordial (which was such a fuckup they eventually made a supplement where you can just walk away from being a Beast in a process involving the HAPPY, HOPEFUL portion of the Primordial Dream WHICH HAS ALWAYS EXISTED. Beast the Primordial really started eating Princess the Hopeful's leftovers in desperation lmao), M20's Nephandi supplement being written by a schizo who begs you not to practice black magic IRL then writes about anti-Ascension that can turn you into a reality-eating solipsistic god and in general the company becoming more incompetent but less artistic over time.

God I haven't even gotten to complaining about Exalted, my actual prime source of heartbreak from this shitty company.

>>154860311
>wraith is literally just to roleplay drama and politics
Heh. I could make a Ventrue joke here but it's too easy.

>>154860331
As someone who has started to be concerned by the increasingly feelings-driven side episodes, I would very much enjoy a side episode centred around the pack. Mainly because it seems like they engage with spirits on a regular basis so at the very least I'd get more lore kino around them.

>>154860347
What would make me vulnerable to being date raped by a Wiccan wine aunt (asking to protect myself)

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>>154860347
So in order to prove that indeed, I am somehow terrified of being cringe because shit's whacky, you concoct a character that then goes "lul I have raped men for EVIL, I will produce EVIL MEAT EATING WASPS from my VAGINA so I win" to try and prove I am terrified of playing whacky characters so I like more regular-ish ones.

I'm glad you're winning the shadowboxing match with my strawman in the Umbra but that's neither reality nor what I said. I said that some people are incredibly lame out there, dreadfully lame, lame enough to make a protestant nun look great. I mean you can misinterpret me still and believe you've won but I don't think your argument does anything but fuel mine because if I had a fellow mage that's actually just operating on raping men that's some That Guy tier shit, that table would suck versus tag teaming with a tacticool dude where you could be a bit quirkier. I can't even go for a beer with that woman, she's just an untouchable tier cringelord.

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>Check the White Wolf wiki
>The shitpost version of Mike Dragons-Wrath is now included on the character's entry
>This is now going to be a lot of secondaries' first impression of Mike
So this is it, huh. This is what the fandom is becoming.

>>154860386
well, its not like it was in a high spot before

>>154860392
I get it, but it's still a little surreal you know? It's like if I saw someone's Miss /co/ fanart uploaded to the character's page on a wiki

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HE KILLED MY FUCKING WIFE

In more productive news, I did a lil rune-reading

>If Wrath is to be of his Purpose.
>Coldly End his Faith.
>Forge strife, End his disfigurement.

(Rune-reading is a bit rusty but I think that's close)

>>154860377
If you're that filtered by such a basic example of a mage using blood and sex to fuel their magic (which is what an entire Tradition revolves around) I really don't think Mage is the game for you. If you cringe into a singularity every time someone does anything other than tacticool /k/ stuff, you're better off just using GURPS or something for your modern military shooter TTRPG.

>>154860386
Better than the nothing WtA's fandom was before, desu

so is everyone going to gloss over the kitten/longinus thing that happened while stig was restrained?

>>154860377
NTA but the former Technocrat tacticool larp is still pretty lame. Etherites ape soft sci-fi shit all the time, you can build a kit around copying nonsense "tactical" shit like the Mandalorians from Star Wars. The entire point is to go crazy with it, being the guy who's only answer is gun when the entire point is to be creative just makes you seem boring.

>>154860422
Oh my god, some of you people need a reality check and a warm milk bottle it seems.

I never said that blood usage was bad. I never said sex usage was bad. You are putting words in my mouth and not understanding that EVIL RAPE VAGINA ATTACK WASPS veers into the lame cringe combination, to the point I even stated originally that most of the basic archetypes out there are lame. I even stated tacticool basic guys work by then letting you be quirkier, and you not only can upstage that but you can mix in the general traditions to contrast or meld it in to bypass Consensus rape. Hermetics also exploding shit is mad funny in upstaging the COD protagonist, having shit from the Akashics in gambling or being death cultists woks well in upstaging them on the sheer Plot Armor, the Etherites doing goofy Weird Science lets you have fun when he's so gruff and serious and you're doing cogwank, and even the basic Nun can also interact in an interesting way with someone that basic.

I actually play TTRPGs. There's not a lot of chemistry you can have with basically a Nephandi yet to be serial rapist pulling out torture methods to kill people as they get devoured by insects, that sounds like a nightmare for a Storyteller to actually acomodate in any table except a semi ERP one, or for most players to not just tolerate the shenanigans at best and stay away as much as possible. Your example is just cringe and it sucks, like I'm not sorry you don't understand my point, it is not my fault you can't understand what I'm saying or refuse to comprehend it.

>>154860430
Hey, it wasn't NOTHING. I'm pretty sure it became a sizeable part of the furry fetish community.

>>154860436
And this is why Void Engineers are the coolest Technocrats. Straight up go to space and fight eldritch horrors there after learning space fundamentally isn't what people thought it was.

>>154860491
>basic witches, boring warlocks, african shitpost shamanism, viking larping, gooners and *le hacks the world with le calculator* mages
This is what you derided actually magical characters as. Don't backtrack, you've already made it clear that you cringe at anything that is remotely magical. Just stay away from Mage the Ascension to save yourself from dying of second-hand embarrassment just because other people are having fun describing the actual magic that their actual mage characters are doing, instead of "my magic is that I shoot a gun."

>>154860413
I assume those runes rhyme, or at least flow better, when spoken in their native tongue.

>>154860530
Oh fuck yes. One rune might mean as much as 10 words in a single character, and they are contextually dependent both on their placements relative to each other and their specific orientation.

I think it's interesting they are in runes though, I have to assume it's coming from Stig's perspective rather than a specific facet of their true faith in, uh, Not-Quite-Christ. He understood their (Wyrm-tained) faith better than they did and thus overcame it with his True Faith in Gaia.

>>154860413
I don't like this representation of Christ.
Getting strong Mandela Catalogue vibes.
Something vile masquerading inside his peeling husk.

>>154860337
FUCK

>>154860549
Oh it absolutely is, notice the... "cross" that "Christ" is on? Notice the nails? That *is* Christ, not the figure they are praying to. That figure they are praying to is the Wyrm, that is why Styg, an actual Pagan, asks "What did they do to you?"

>>154860549
thats exactly what it is, anon
you think a bunch of drugged up zealots high off pentex drugs can call up big J?
its the wyrm using christ as a skin

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I can't take Stig seriously in his warform.

>>154860549
That's the point. It's a manifestation of True Faith in Christ by people who have been tainted by the Wyrm by their associates and their actions. They had the Pentex anti-delirum drugs in their system after all. A true manifestation of faith in Christianity would look less horrific and would have probably actually worked.