Why did it fail?
>>154866866There were way too many characters, time skips that required reading supplemental material and complicated inter-dimensional plotlines. It worked great when the team was basically used as a scout team and most of the missions were comparatively lower stakes, saving a little girl dying, a city block being destroyed, or some supervillains escaping prison, rather than every conflict threatening to destroy all of reality
>>154866866>Multiple seasons>failedbased retard
>>154866866Bad toy sales
>>154867310Unc, its not the 80s anymore.
>>154866866Lost focus on the main cast in favour of adding more and more new characters the audience didn't want.
>>154866866went woke.>>154867105you just mentioned the good parts.>>154867310that's why it failed financially.>>154867369I think DC demanded they keep adding the hot-button current characters, which didn't fit. a tv universe needs to be curated. you can't just be like "5 year timeskip, Dick has become Nightwing, Jason arrived, DIED, and was replaced, and Tim is here" that's insane.
>>154866866It was boring as fuck.
>>154867310>>154867428Why do boomers still obsess over muh toys.Kids ain't playing with toys, they want v-bucks.
>>154867428I serious doubt DC was demanding they add Super Friends OC stand-ins and halfass the Outsiders.
>>154866866Miss Martian was wild
Weisman doesn't have an end in mind so even if it got 15 seasons it would've seemed like it failed
>>154866866Not enough minorities
>>154866866whelmed
dude , mode
>>154866866Halo..
Nerfing Superboys powers and personality was stupid. Half the time it didn't even feel like he had super strength when all the martial arts characters were pulling off the same moves and not getting hit.
>>154869247His personality?What was it?WAHHHH SUPERMAN DOESN'T LIKE MEEEE
>>154867428You think wrong. It was all Weisman. He wanted the timeskips and the shifting focus.
>>154866866They didn't let me lick Artemis tummy
>>154866866Character bloat, timeskips after timeskips, became a slide show in its last few seaons.
>>154866866Teen Titans was better
>>154866866I don't even remember when this originally aired and didn't watch it until after it was already finished. Prob had a shit time block or something. I remember liking it and don't like it ended on a cliffhanger with Wally.
>>154866866Trying to do too much too fast. It also utterly woked out at season 4. It’s also evident they REALLY wanted to bring Wally back with how much they milked his death
>>154866866Not enough of that blonde loli.
>>154866866Because they lost against the chads of DC
>>154870120>wokednot an argument
>>154869089Yeah once the mask was off I count my blessings that Gargoyles got 65 episodes minus the season that doesn't exist and ended on both a cliffhanger and a good endingYoung Justice got no closer to resolving anything than it was in season 1 and Spider-Man's ending might have also been a mercy
>>154866866too woke.also timeskips didn't help
Okay, but seriously, why was it so insanely, pants-shittingly woke?
>>154866866Too many characters, and most of the ones they had were just annoying.
>>154866866It wasn't good and it got more chances than it deserved
>>154870279>wokeagain; not an argument.
>>154870262There's Gargoyles comics that continue off from Hunter's Moon. The art in them's a mixed bag, but the stories are pretty good.
>>1548668661. Conner is a pussy2. who the hell are those black guys?3 If you compare it to teen titans its just a mediocre show
>>154870895Indeed not an argument but a fact that did hurt the show since adults are the ones watching it, no kid would watch that crap
>>154867105>It worked great when the team was basically used as a scout team and most of the missions were comparatively lower stakes, saving a little girl dying, a city block being destroyed, or some supervillains escaping prison, rather than every conflict threatening to destroy all of realityI think what worked best here in season 1 is most of the lower stakes stuff also were building to something. Season 2 does it a bit as well, like all these villain plots built up to their grand plan. After season 2 it got way to convoluted.
>>154873973>2. who the hell are those black guys?Rocket from Milestone and Aqua Lad(he's black due to be black manta's son).
>>154866866>dude muh conspiration muh teenage drama muh endeless hours of chitchat and teasing things that goes nowhere It was a total downgrade from Justice League and even Teen Titans. Lacked a lot of action. Then they ruined it all by shoving wokeshit everywhere.Superhero shows needs action and heroism instead of all that trash.
>>154869089Yeah Weisman said there'd never be a resolved ending as life never ends, so he'd always slip in a cliffhanger.
>>154870262>Spider-Man's ending might have also been a mercyIt was pretty conclusive an ending. Sure, Norman secretly escaped with his life, but he as Green Goblin is no longer a threat for at least the time being. About the only loose end unaccounted for is where the Venom symbiote ended up.
>>154874544>Then they ruined it all by shoving wokeshit everywhere.The muslim pagan motherbox declaring she was nonbinary was too fucking much you are a sexed object in a sexed boyyou are female
Also the show essentially repeated storylinesSeasons 1 and 3 are about an evil plot to mind control the heroesSeason 2 and 4 are about stopping a Bad future
>>154867310This is unironically it.Mostly girls watched it when it was airing, but all the ad space went to shit boys would want.
>>154866866can't remember first season all that well anymore but I stopped watching then the weird muslim zombie showed up
>>154866866went too woke too soonhad they waited few years they would have been fine
>>154866866TEH LIGHT were boring invincible villainsSeason 2 time skip didn't give you a chance to connect with the new team compared to the whole of Season 1
BP
Producers as didio hated wally west.
>>154866866too little diversity.
>>154873986Kids watch tiktok and youtube, they're not watching cartoons on tv unless they're a toddler.
>>154866866My favorite part was when they implied that Orion was an Autist on the same level as that mouth breathing nog child
Toy sales.Then season 3.Season 4 was somewhat better I guess.
>>154866866>4 seasons>reboot the team every seasonseasonal tv writing killed it artistically and everything else is irrelevant.
>>154867428>you just mentioned the good parts.>the timeskips and endless new characters like the super friends kids were the good partsoh no, it's retarded
>>154869259>WAHHHH SUPERMAN DOESN'T LIKE MEEEEUntil, magically through the power of timeskip, he did.
>>154873973>>154874533Also it may or may not be worth pointing out that Rocket's not a dude but she is a single mother.
>>154866866Did it? I mean, it had two seasons, then came back for two more years later. The problem is every season kept introducing more and more characters. I think S2 hit the sweet spot on this, with the new kids having the Blue Beetle plot, and the old kids having the Aqualad double agent plot. But then you get into the Outsiders and shit, and it's just too much.Geoforce did nothing wrong.
>>154875883They're everything wrong with Xanatos with none of his charisma to pull it off.
>>154866866First season was good. Needed to stick with that first season group and maybe bring in a new character every once in a while. So sort of like how the Teen Titans show was mostly Robin/Grayson, Raven, Beast Boy, Cyborg and Starfire.
Should have made everyone between 8-12 years old, and have them constantly get into sexy adventures.
>>154870895I can see your blue hair from here.
>>154866866>MUHHHH TOYSSSSHoly boomer
Didnt this show come out and end before Woke? Did they really bring it back to Woke it up?
>>154880525>ad hom
>>154869247To be fair Conner had to be nerfed to a degree otherwise he could solo most of the threats without even throwing a punch however the level to which it was done was ridiculous. They could have easily solved this my having him gradually awaken his powers throughout the series like Clark in Smallville.
>>154866866Set themselves up for an anticipated return with season 3 after season 2. Returned only to just go full woke with a completely new cast that frustrated and alienated every viewer they had before.When they made it woke, they destroyed basically all charm the show once had.
>>154866866>bunch of crusty white kids>not a single wheelchair superhero of colorshramefurr
