>>154880004
Can we please stop trying to redeem Norman? No one likes this, they just want Green Goblin. Fuck if you're so hell bent on a "good goblin", just revive Harry and give him the gold gear

>>154880038
they had Harry for about 10 years and did nothing with him and then they just retconned him into being a clone and killed him off

>>154880095
They had Phil Urich too

>>154880038
It's funny how people constantly complain about comic books slavishly worshipping the status quo but every time they actually try to change the status quo the fans immediately go "NO WAIT THIS SUCKS, GO BACK!"

>>154880987
This change in particular sucks

>>154880004
>Ya'know, i would like the Gold Goblin costume more if it looked more like... a goblin
In fairness, it wasn't supposed to. The media gave it the name "Gold Goblin" because it's Norman, and he got stuck with the name.

>>154880987
yes, well the the understated fact of the matter is that the change still has to be good

>>154880038
>Can we please stop trying to redeem Norman?
>please stop doing the only interesting and fun thing Marvel has done at all in the 2020s
Anon, shut the hell up. We all know this is going to come to an end eventually, we all know Norman will become the Green Goblin and be a villain again eventually, but this is actually fun, let us enjoy it while it lasts instead of wishing for the status quo to return immediately.

For some reason Spider-Man is the one superhero where a lot of the fandom absolutely seethes about the hero's archenemy like he personally wronged them and they crave his death, rather than just enjoying his antics like a normal person would.

>just revive Harry
I'll agree with you on this part though.

>>154880095
Spencer was salty about Harry and Kraven being alive, and he was allowed to retcon away Harry's return as being a clone and not explain who made the clone.

>>154880825
>They had Phil Urich too
This one's all on Yoshida for turning Phil into a villain, and Slott for doubling down on it. Since then Marvel have killed the poor guy three times.

>>154880004
What the fuck is this?

>>154880038
I'm okay with good Norman. Norman has already killed Peter's baby. He cucked him (though it was retconned they both thought it was real for a while). He killed Gwen. He killed Ben. He made Peter think Aunt May was dead. He took over Shield.
We have hit diminishing returns for evilness. He'll go back eventually, but for now, Good Norman works. Get some other guy as goblin.

>>154880987
Nobody wanted that change you disingenuous fag. You armchair critic retards parrot that statement all the time with dumb shit

>>154882174
Fuck you, asshole. "We all know it will revert", then don't fucking do it. Nobody wanted NORMAN FUCKING OSBORN OF ALL PEOPLE to go through a redemption arc, and trivialize the years of hell he put Peter through. And by Peter buying this act, it makes him look retarded

>>154883096
>Norman has already killed Peter's baby.
We only have Mac Gargan's word on this, there were earlier stories that implied she lived. It'd be easy to bring her back if Marvel editorial would ever allow it.

>>154883103
>Nobody wanted that change
It's one of those things nobody had any idea they wanted until it happened. Stop being outraged that the only good thing happening in Spider-Man comics has people actually liking it.

>>154883113
>"We all know it will revert", then don't fucking do it.
You're basically arguing here for nothing to happen ever unless the company can somehow bind every subsequent creative team to a change being permanent.

>Nobody wanted NORMAN FUCKING OSBORN OF ALL PEOPLE to go through a redemption arc
>until it happened and it led to the only good Marvel stories of the 2020s

>and trivialize the years of hell he put Peter through.
You are not Peter. Stop self-inserting and stop taking it all personally.

>And by Peter buying this act, it makes him look retarded
It's not an act, it's magic. If you got what you wanted and Peter kept treating Norman like a villain he'd trigger a Green Goblin relapse and people would die.

All of the villains Marvel has given undeserved redemption arcs to and treated it as a genuine permanent thing, and you people lose your minds over Norman Osborn getting a magic redemption that's obviously temporary?

>>154883183
>Stop self-inserting
Nice projection

>>154883044
Norman as the Gold Goblin