How long before it makes its way into the comics?
>>154946039Dunno who dies first. Peter's radioactive spider semen, or Jean Grey's plethora of STDs. Maybe they cancel each other out.
>>154946039>How long before it makes its way into the comics?I hate Bendis, but he would've made it happen. He was willing to take risks with crossovers all the time.Current writers are a bunch of pussies. Specially Spider-Man ones.
Pic related is what we NEED to happen.
Was this rape?
>>154946089No, more like Jean raped herself to get the upper hand on Peter.>>154946087Hell yeah! If Marvel aren't retards, they'll understand it needs to happen.
>>154946089Depends, there's this one anime where a prince was going to marry his childhood friend. They had a wedding, and went straight to sex. Only for said childhood friend to reveal herself to be the sister of said friend, and accuses the prince of being unfaithful to her sister. Despite the fact she tricked him.
>>154946039This just feels really fucking pathetic and cringe. I get Peter needing a win after the past 3 decades of Marvel's bullshit but this is just sad.
It's not going to happen. Jean has SO MUCH baggage, and it's between Scott (her soulmate) and Logan. Do you really think Marvel is going to piss off X-fags?
Is this gonna become a general for a few days or something?
>>154946144>Do you really think Marvel is going to piss off X-fags?They've been pissing off X-fags for literal decades. Nothing new there.
>>154946137You need to get with the program buddy, there isn't any other game in town right now
>>154946144>Do you really think Marvel is going to piss off X-fags?Considering how Tom's MCU Spider-Man started off as Iron-Bay fan, and they had to back track it due to public perception. It depends if the public eats it up. Tom's 3rd Spider-Man movie basically backtracked a lot from Tony.
>>154946089this is literally rape
>>154946087This would be out of Marvel's league for this to happen. Its really funny too, it isn't even that hard to write it out.
>>154946039Sadie sink would have pulled off a great mary jane, man. What a waste.
>>154946144>Do you really think Marvel is going to piss off X-fags?Only on days that end with a 'y'.That said you're nuts if you think the Peter/Jean pairing is actually going to happen in the MCU.
can we appreciate the fact that there was a point in this movie where Jean hated Peter so fucking much shame made out with him. That is a thing that happened. Imagine wanting to destroy someone so badly you get intimate with them because you need to humiliate them for falling for fantasy drivel.
>>154946039>Peter starts fucking Jean because his arachnid hormones recognize her as a powerful female>He starts plowing extra hard because in nature arachnid males are at risk of being eaten during or after sex>Jean is not a giant spider and does not eat him>Peter's body moves in a sex overdrive overcompensating for something that will never happen>He transforms into Man-Spider mid-act>it is the most orgasmic sex anyone has ever had>Jean uses her telepathy while Peter's out on patrol and she's on his bed masturbating so Peter has a huge bulge popping out of his costume while saving people>We get a montage of different people Peter's saving reacting to his really blatant hard-on>An old lady is just smacking him across the face with her purse as he carries her to safety, calling him a pervert>A kid is bawling his eyes out as Peter saves him from an oncoming car>A nerdy-looking girl acually looks interested and asks Peter about the mechanics of his "stinger". The girl is Doreen Green.
>>154946145>a few days
>>154946200they essentially had a romance from a shonen anime, it actually gets funnier the longer you reflect on it
>>154946069>Bendis is the risk takerThere is something damning about that. Anyway, I think the most we hope for is stuff like Marvel zombies where they are the last two left. Maybe a what if at most.
>>154946201Perfection. I want to date a telepath like Jean!
>>154946222Depends on your time horizon. The ship just featured in what will probably end up being one of the biggest movies of all time, one of the best Spidey movies, and will fundamentally be linked with people's conceptions of both characters going forward. I think someone does something with the pairing within the decade.
Jean after possessing a woman's body to bounce on Peter's cock>Did you SERIOUSLY think she would be into you? FUCKING RETARD
>>154946225Rare fanart that keeps her ugly pants.
There's a saying, an old saying >Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Better question how long until they do 05 again to synergize with the movies.
I for one am just glad for all the fanart and fics. Marvel would fumble this even IF they make this happen, which is unlikely.I'm gonna enjoy all the fan content that is being made.
almost all of the fanart is from japan because americans think it is morally wrong to ship them
>>154946245Shipping in comics is doomed to fail, and crossover shipping is twice as doomed.And shipping two characters who have untouchable shipping partners (MJ - Cyclops/Wolverine) is literally impossible.Jean-Peter is a really cute ship and I like it, but if it doesn't happen in the MCU, it won't happen anywhere else.
>>154946296>think its only japanKorea and China are also making a bunch of fanart of them too.
>>154946283Same here. Fan content is better anyway.
>>154946310We'll see. In the MCU it's already happened at an overt enough level to evoke the imagination.
>>154946087>Peter saves jean from succumbing to her inner darkness and pulled her back to the light >Jean will now do the same for Peter when it comes to venom>Only she can reach him now, mj doesn't remember shit, aunt may is dead, most of the avengers can't really help, it's only her>End with a team up of them disposing venom >Jean gets injured during the fight and can't walk>Peter has to swing carrying her in his arms, we see a faint smile on her face as she looks onto peter>Post credits scene:>Venom finds MCU Eddie This shit WRITES ITSELF BRO
>>154946144> It's not going to happen. Jean has SO MUCH baggageWhich is small potatoes compared to Peters
>>154946039>Remove redhead MJ>Add redhead JeanWhat did disney mean by this?
>>154946144It's not happening but all those retards that think Cyclops/Wolverine is happening are also retarded.Jean will die a virgin, as usual, when they botch the Phoenix Saga for a third fucking time.
>>154946431trump killed woke so we can have redheads agian
>>154946144They take immense pleasure in pissing off cyclopsfags in particular, yes. And since Jean is too young she can't hit off with the manlet either, that's haram.
>>154946364Right? I want this arc so much. Someone send this to Marvel so they can get their head out of their ass and write an actually good story
Post Cyclops' face when he catches Jean being double teamed by Peter and Frank
>>154946144They literally picked a doughy homosexual to play Cykes. What do you think?
>>154946615>God, I wish that was me.
>>154946615>made it right on time
>let's make jean evil>like the most evil villain spider man has ever encountered in a film>straight up goblin tier trying to kill innocent people because she can >actual rapist too >wait why does everyone want peter to impregnate her
>>154946615>”You seeing this shit Wiccan? Let’s go have gay sex elsewhere.”
jean is a happily married woman and mother in a stable relationship you wierdos.
>>154946495>killed woke>all the rightoid seethe at Odyssey did jack shit
>>154946069>Specially Spider-Man onesWith the way they're treating all the MJ replacements they might just discard the alien chick in a few issues and hook him up with a mutie red head for a while.
>>154946296I've seen a lot of latino artists drawing them as well.
Imagine if she starts calling him "Tiger"?
This ship would be more interesting if it had any grounded slice of life interactions but everything Peter and Jean do together is some sci-fi thing
>>154947429She is the redhead promised to Peter 3000 years ago.
>>154946144They cast a faggot to play Cyclops. Jean/Scott is not happening in MCU.
>>154946364Peter could have fucked her right then and there
>>154947616He wouldn't, though. If the Punisher didn't take the shot, the first thing Peter would do is get her far away from there to a location she feels a modicum of safety, maybe his apartment.She was still mind controlling a city block, you know.
>>154947616Peter is basically a saint in the MCU. Even if he loses his temper it's always for righteous reasons. He wouldn't come on to her because she's so vulnerable.
>>154947563I mean, it probably will. It just won't look convincing.
>>154947669>It just won't look convincing.Ofc it won't. Not only is the actor playing Scott a faggot, but Sadie also admitted she hasn't met any of her X-Men co-stars yet. So no chemistry test between her and a faggot.
>>154947661Which is why we need a kind of evil woman like Jean to balance him out.Boy scout x villainess is a kino pairing.
>>154947711>Boy scout x villainess is a kino pairingThat's why she is for Scott
>>154947695Jean likes Scott. Walks in on Scott getting railed by Iceman's big ice dick.
>>154946283>>154946337Much as I want SpiderPhoenix to be canon in MCU, I do fear the monkey paw is that they end up dating, but it's a toxic relationship to drive further that Zendayape is his true love.
>>154947725>Scott getting railed byProbably Beast. Iceman is 100% bottom.
>>154946615Well comics Jean is canonically DPed thanks to Krakoa/Hickman right
>>154947722You don't even know who MCU Scott is going to be in terms of character.
>>154947751>You don't even know who MCU Scott is going to be in terms of characterA zesty faggot
>>154947733>Zendaya is his true loveShe's soooo damn boring. She's basically Invincible Amber if she wasn't a bitch. I hate everyone defaults to "you ship Peter with anyone else you're dumb, Michelle Jones is right there so he doesn't need anyone else" as if anyone irl genuinely likes Michelle Jones as a character.
michelle works better as a supporting character than a love interest. it's weird that the story put so much investment into her
>>154946144There is no Scott in the MCU right now, just like how there is no Norman Osborn or Otto Octavius, no Logan or Wade either.The only way they'd meet is if they did multiverse shit, which is going to happen but regardless, the MCU is set in a world where some characters just aren't adapted from the source material.
>>154947722Nobody cares about Scott and never will.Spidey is the biggest face marvel has.Literally no one gives half a shit about the x-men right now, and it's way to late to do anything about that.
>>154947819Kek, Wolverine is far more popular, than Spider-Cuck.
>>154947819Spider-Man is the most popular Super Hero, actually.not in marvel or in comics/movies, just in general.
>>154947837>being this insanely out of touchOh I'm laughin
>>154947837My sister is a 1st grade teacher.13 of the boys in her classroom were Spiderman for Halloween last year.
>>154947837Anon, not even wolverinefags believe that especially when they know that Logan is the second most popular character of Marvel.
>>154947910>the second most popular character of MarvelIs Tony
This has to be the third or fourth X-babe Peter Parker pairing I've seen.
>>154946364>a Jean Grey that has awakened to her full telepathic abilities being injured by the symbiote
>>154947722>That's why she is for ScottJean kissed Peter and at the end he becomes her most important person. Meanwhile, Marvel cast some faggot as Cyclops who will NEVER have good chemistry with Jean. It's over, my guy.
This ship will die when they reboot everything in SW, and it will be like everything never existedMaybe in the new universe we'll actually get a street level spaidah man movie
Sadie Sink is incredibly pretty, like holy shit does she mog Zendaya.
>>154946905Anon, haven't you got the current update? Odyssey made a billion but chuds won because another movie with Tom Holland and Zendaya made two billions.Trump won. Elon Won.
>>154946039never hopefully
Any character analysis from you guys on the appeal of this pair?
>>154946089Yes. Even just looking at Jean's powers in the movie, she is mind-raping people.
>>154948193For Brand New Day specifically, it' simple, both of them are loners who lost their only remaining family, but found each other. Sibling coded or potential love interests, at the absolute least Peter has become a very important person for Jean.Now for the future since Peter likely gonna get the symbiote and rage, Jean is the best possible person to help him.
>>154946039I need to see them together again
Everyone just wants to ship Spiderman with their own personal favorites.
>>154946039>How long before it makes its way into the comics?Fucking never lmfaoYou're getting a nostalgiabait team-up title and that's it
>>154947971Yeah, that's as laughable as Peter beating Dr. Strange in a fight.No way that would happen though.
>>154947563>Cyclops/Wolverine confirmed for MCU
>>154947971Take the Knullpill.
>>154948001You joke but chuds are really that delusional
>Some retard on Threads said Jean's gonna be in X-Men so no time for Peter x Jean>Someone said Marvel would be stupid to not captilize on the shipping>The guy respond with it's impossible because Tom Holland is married to Zendaya therefore MJ is his only true love.
>>154946039It won't. I really like it, their dynamic was the weirdest thing but the most interesting thing I've seen in the MCU since probably Guardians 3 and Dafoe hamming it up in NWH. It was like watching a well written crack fanfiction. But Jean in this movie share very little with Jean in the comics. Different age, different backstory. She's practically a new character and their comic variants are too entrenched.>>154948193In addition to the foil qualities, practically every possible relationship was fun or just plain sweet. She was a fun villain who have a well-defined weakness in that she can't truly get into Peter's head like she could anyone else's so the next best thing to do was to fuck with it. And the things she did to do so were delightfully cruel. Him cutting himself away gave her plenty of fuel to do so, to twist that knife. But once she is "saved" then her being a platonic mentor and friend is sweet in of itself and I would be happy if they went down that route. They're among the first real people they've connected to one another in a long time and it's telling that Jean's world view changes when she doesn't see loss or pain or anger in his mind like she must have seen in Banner and Frank's but just a warm memory of his aunt that kept him anchored. Romantically it's similar except they kiss (with her real body this time) and fuck and shit. These paths have real constructive energy that just is just appealing to certain people I guess. I feel like a tumblrina writing Reylo analysis.
>>154949122>She's practically a new character and their comic variants are too entrenched.Which is why it's essential for MCU to make Peter x Jean official. They already did it with Michelle Jones
>>154949122*then him being a platonic mentor
>>154949122Your analysis is appreciated, anon.
Mj is getting replaced as THE red head in real time
>>154949351Joe Quesada, you will pay
>>154946310>MJWon't happen until the Spider-Man editorial house is nuked.>Cyclops/WolverineThe love triangle has always been shit. Jean, Cyclops and Wolverine are better without it.
>>154949351left and right are coalburners, give me the psychic gf
>>154949351>Turn MJ into a Daria clone played by an actor who doesn't look like her>Shove in Jean as a villain and give her an interesting dynamic with PeterIt's like a Jeanfag wrote this shit to make sure his waifu is fucked by his self insert because he doesn't self insert as Scott.
>>154946145Why not?
>>154946255this is basically what women do to me irl only using their friends and minus the sex
>>154946283They wouldn't fumble it if they tried. They literally made it, out of thin air, no one was asking for it.
>>154947438its a superhero movie
>>154949035Make more money. Win. Simple as.
>>154949351>>154947785Non supers are boring. Honestly I feel like its just old people who care about this shit. No one under 20 really follows the old superhero formula of superspecialboy in the normal world. Honestly its just really wishfullfilly and kinda cringe. Now that most kids have grown up with anime and manga being social acceptable the new paradigm is more like an action gf or at least a useful one. Its much better that they gave him a girl whos powers are still feminine and manipulative rather than someone who goes around kicking bad guys.
>>154949351
>>154949780And when the gf doesn't have powers they still try to overcompensate like in the spider-man game by making MJ a super investigator/reporter
>>154947991>inb4 they reboot the universe>jean is given a new life with a happy family, maybe even her sister>Peter goes back to college>Jean becomes Peter's classmate
>>154949782>>154949351Who is the artist?
>>154949838https://x.com/aka_mochi_chan/status/2086090060219420714
>>154949351Based. I USED to like Gwen but I hate that they turned her into a veiled tranny. I know they intended for her to look androgynous in the latest Spiderverse movie, and I KNOW they didn't outright come out and say it because of the backlash. But THIS aberration is not my Gwen
>>154949881Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>154949906>Go ahead, Peter. Hold her. Touch m—her.
Why is this a popular ship?
>>154950014Nine years of Zendaya MJ and they finally see a redhead interacting with Peter Parker, they don't know how to act
>>154950014MJ is "le quirky" Daria clone who says creepy stuff when trying to be romantic and is boring with no relation to the plot or Peter's superhero life.I don't particularly feel about it as a ship (though admittedly they have chemistry) but I like the potential plotlines like>jean saving Peter just like he did to her from the venom>Jean training to master her abilities (without needing to be in Xavier's school) and investigating crimes using her telepathy>a villain like purple man offering to help her master her abilities while at the same time planning to harness her as his weapon>Jean trying her hand at superheroics and the struggle between following Peter's example and the temptation of lowering herself to the villain's levels in order to winIgnore phoenix and cosmic shenanigans, ignore the X-men and ignore the overpowered telekinetics/city level mindcontrol. Keep it street level and personal like Spiderman and reserve those power ups for an Avengers team up where it would be useful.
>>154949906Like this?
>>154950152Cute
>>154950104I feel like they capped jean's power level quite nicely in this movie by giving her a radius of effect and proximity limitations, and making her mind control more like possession than telepathy so she can be taken down by a sniper or someone catching her off guard.And giving her the potential for telekinesis she has in the comics without giving it to her outright except at the finale which I hope remains reserved for stressful/critical stiuations.I think if played right this would be really fun, like Cap lifting Thor's hammer in a desperate situation against Thanos after hinting of it in other movies, they could have Jean awakening the phoenix against a Galactus level threat in some far off Avengers/Fantastic Four team up.
the spider-goyim have gone insane
>>154950014Zendaya MJ is a bitch that no one really likes. She's too antagonistic towards Peter romantically. She doesn't comment about being in his court or be on his side, she's spent the entire trilogy on the sideline while Jean actually forces her way into Peter life and breaks down his walls. She does this to threaten him, but she actually does give real feedback on him, like Frank does, but Zendaya is just there. Ironically Zendaya's best moments in the film were bouncing off of Frank.
>>154950001>I'm so sorry for using MJ for that sick prank Peter>I...I think I can make things right>so, Jean, what does caging me in with your arms have to do with that?>please Peter, take something from me>something?>Well, I've never been with anyone>you should save that for someone you lo->oh my god Peter, you're so STUPID!
>>154950192Tetoasted!
>>154946200>can we appreciate the fact that there was a point in this movie where Jean hated Peter so fucking much shame made out with him. That is a thing that happened. Imagine wanting to destroy someone so badly you get intimate with them because you need to humiliate them for falling for fantasy drivel.>>154946201>>154946255>Jean after possessing a woman's body to bounce on Peter's cock>>Did you SERIOUSLY think she would be into you? FUCKING RETARDI need Jean to be an utterly evil queen who will BREAK Peter into a million pieces and make him cry.I need Jean to mindpuppet Sue Storm into seducing Peter and savagely fuck him while she turns invisible. I want painful bite marks and nail scratches to appear on Peter's neck and lean, muscular torso as if by magic.As Sue Storm rides Peter hard towards a shuddering climax, Jean needs to appear at the end of the bed between Peter's spread legs and behind Sue with a cruel smirk on her face. Jean bends down to closely observe Peter's cock as he shoots stream after stream of jism into Sue's invisible pussy.As Peter realizes what he's done, how badly he's been tricked and used he utters a broken cry that is half sob of despair, half moan of pleasure. And Jean just laughs.Or Peter and Jean could go on a wholesome date, hold hands and makeout for a bit. That would be okay too. I guess.
Paulchads MJ is now memetically ours.
>>154950209>Jean trying to tease Peter at every opportunity, but she doesn't have much real experience and does it based on poor research>"I'm stuck in the washing machine">Pulls her out and thanks her for taking care of their clothes.>Forgot money for the Pizza they ordered>Peter pays, smiles and tells her he also does sometimes>Asks him if her skirt is too short>As long as it doesn't affect her mobility, it should work
need a gf like her
>>154950329So what you're saying is, you want Baalbuddy to make a spiderman comic?
>>154950201>Zendaya's best moments in the film were bouncing off of Frank.Right? I felt they complimented each other nicely and thought it was just me.I want a woman like Jean who comes into my life and fucks it sideways
>>154950201>doesn't he need you like you needed him on staten islandwonder why people ignore this desu
>>154950465I felt the same way with MJ and Andrew's Peter in NWH.
>>154950504I thought the better moment was when pete was being smart about Frank not having a lab and Frank casually saying he does, Pete freaking out, and then Zendaya smartly pointing out "bombs" for Frank to snap his fingers. They did well together. It just goes to show that MJ was NOT built for Pete.
>>154950465It's funny how much fanart gives Jean this cute anime brat persona when in the movie she isn't a brat. She's very much a card carrying speech giving supervillain for almost the entire film
>>154950329You have to be more nuanced. Jean has seen into hundreds of people's minds. She knows how to do flirty. It's funny because Peter is so caring and nice he doesn't see it as flirtation. He only sees her as someone who needs his support and help.
>>154950565Jean STOPS being a supervillain at the end of the movie but she would still be a brat if hanging out with Peter.
>>154950565For real? She didn't give me that feel, more like a desperate girl who has gone through shit trying to find her missing family member.I could totally believe she's the kind of woman who would go to someone like Frank to help her find her kidnapped sister. Except she got mind control, so she can skip the Punisher and go after them directly.But a supervillain would have an actual plan, Jean was just attacking government facilities without rhyme and reason, which is how she got captured so easily despite having one of the most versatile superpowers ever.
>>154946144They dgaf about the comics
>>154946188This!
>>154948637Giga truth nuke that Spider-Fags will never accept
>>154946255>IT WAS ME PETER! I MINDCONTROLLED YOUR GIRLFRIEND INTO KISSING YOU!!!
>>154950636As they shouldn't.Nobody reads them anyway, and the comic stories are convoluted nonsense.The people showing ups to give Disney 2.5 billion dollars have never read a comic in their life.But they see two actors with chemistry, and want more of that.That REALLY IS all that matters.
>>154950014It's hot
>>154950676I read Salvation Run once......
>>154946145Yep
I’ll say this, at least this better than Elsanna
>>154946615
>>154950628Deep down she's desperate for someone to hold her, to tell her everything will be okay. Outwardly she's a brat and testy because she could never trust anyone. Peter would make her come out of her shell more but the words would still be tinged with sarcasm and brattiness as a reflex.
>>154947429
>>154950750Exactly how it feels. And it makes sense, if you could read everyone's minds, you probably wouldn't be able to trust anyone. Imagine entering anon's darkest thoughts and fantasies, and being aware of everyone's darkest impulses even if they don't intend to act on them.What I want to know is how much sexual experience she got both physical and from living vicariously through other's bodies.
>>154950707Jean wouldn't be embarrassed. She would either own up to it or try to use it as leverage to seduce Peter while distancing him from Michelle
>>154949456Neither will happen because, again, shipping is doomed in comics, but if any pairing will ever be canon in comics will be MJ and Cyclops/Wolverine. Any other pairing will always be doomed because those two will ruin any lasting power stay they have.Not my first rodeo in this
>>154950707itis funny how the kiss did not help her plan in any way and in fact made peter more eager to throw her in jail so she really just did it for the love of the game
>>154946200Real Thawne like stuff
>>154950676nah, if comics were not important they wouldn't make movies like Spider-Man which are 90% of "DID YOU SEE THAT IN THAT COMIC THAT TIME" and barely 10% of original contentMovies need comics to create the mythos they can reference in the future. Without it, these movies would be forced to create original stuff and no one would be as hyped for it.
>>154949809Thankfully the X-men will be in a separate universe
>>154950773I presume she has no real life experience but reading hundreds of normal people's minds has informed her on what lovers do versus what degenerate sex addicts do. Since she canonically can't tap into Peter's mind on the fly she would need to figure out if he wants to make love or use sex as relief from his super stressful life.
>>154950808The plots and characters of MCU Spider-Man movies only vaguely resemble their comic book counterparts.
>>154946200>For three years Peter started going out, making friends, starting to come out of his shell, having one-night stands, all for it to be revealed that every girl he ever kissed, fucked, or made a connection with was all Jean.
You can tell the people shipping these two never read a single comic
>>154950781Actually, what was her plan if Peter really did take her offer to hold and touch MJ like he wanted to all those years? Would she keep possessing MJ during the entire session?
they honestly made jean a little too evil, they should've toned it down a bit
>>154950808You're delusional. The vast majority of people have NO FUCKING IDEA what secret wars is. No idea what the fuck a clone saga is. Most people didn't know who Tony Stark was until the first Iron Man movie.Hype for MCU movies is not generated by the comics.It's generated by previous MCU movies.Always has been, always will be.
>>154950870>yes peter inserting his cock and fucking me hard was all part of the my dastardly supervillain plan! hehe
>>154950862And that's a good thing
>>154950871should have toned it up a bitinstead of just making out with him and then giving herself away, jean should have escalated. started groping and squeezing and grinding, doing things that are out of character for MJ and then Peter catches on that it was her and realizing she might have gone all the way with MJ's body if he didn't stop her
>>154950894jean get off the internet
>>154950707the people defending her say she had to do this but if she had to do it it would have benefitted her in some clear way but it doesn't. peter literally doesn't hesitate to chase her again after she threatens MJ. He does it LITERALLY 1 second after she gives him back the embarassing letter
>>154950824And that is a good thing in this case, the latest Marvel comics suck so I'd rather they give them their own original spin and avoid the woke shit. I DEMAND Jean and Spiderman be an official couple, two lost souls finding relief in each other.
>>154950870Honestly, as much as I'd enjoy this to play like a porno, Jean probably would have abandoned MJ's mind and watch as the girl started screaming and crying. Then gloat as Peter would feel like a rapist for making out with MJ against her will.That would break him, but probably end with Peter punching a hole through Jean's chest as that would be too irredeemable even for fans.
>>154950659>Jean keeps controlling women to get close to Peter>pretends it's some evil plan but actually she doesn't have the guts to fuck him with her body
the very idea of peter dating the girl who had banner thrown in an asylum because she doesn't know how to fucking hold back
>>154950870>>154950940I would NOT be surprised if there was a suggestion of that scene where Jean disengages mind control while MJ's tongue is in Peter's mouth in order to make him look like a rapist. She would do this
>>154950964it'd be in one of those novelizations/screen play books they sell after the movie
>>154948193Female power fantasy. Jean is a sociopath who killed innocent people, mindraped even more, attempted to kill MJ, and at the end gets told that no, no, it's the rest of the world that's the problem, she's actually just the best. All the power, zero responsibility.
>>154950676>comic stories are convoluted nonsenseI would've agreed with you until the modern mcu
>>154950954He deserved it.>>154950991>Female power fantasy. Jean is a sociopath who killed innocent people, mindraped even more, attempted to kill MJ, and at the end gets told that no, no, it's the rest of the world that's the problem, she's actually just the best.>All the power, zero responsibility.No different from any other woman, if anything, she is quite realistic. I like that media has stopped putting women on a pedestal and made them act human, unkempt, degenerate and annoying. Videogames have started doing that too like picrel and I'm so happy about it.I WANT Jean Grey to ruin my life as I date her!
The thing that bugs me is that Jean doesn't arc into a hero in the movie. She is just given a reason to stop her warpath. She does not learn that it is bad to make people kiss or toss them into traffic. That doesn't happen.
>>154950991>Jean is a sociopath who killed innocent peopleWho did she kill?
>>154951009She made one of the Hand stab themselves through the gut because she was actively trying to kill Peter
>>154951004>The thing that bugs me is that Jean doesn't arc into a hero in the movieWhy would she? BND just turns her from villain to someone looking for a better way of life.Now she's on trad to improvement, right in time for a school of present young opeople or sth.
>>154951004I like it, I felt old Jean was too spunky, kind of a diva and plain boring at times. I like this new street-rat Jean down on her luck. Feels more street level like Spiderman and also has more plot line potential because she isn't all mighty yet.Also has a very distinctive 2000's feel even in her way of dressing. I'd like to watch a Chronicle like story about her escaping the police and trying to find her moral ground before she starts going into X-Men territory.>>154951019That's but a scratch in Marvel universe. He'll be fine and probably awaken some superpowers given the tech and mutations they got.
>>154951019She blew up buildings. She walked a guy into traffic. She was smirking while she tried to kill MJ just so she could traumatize Peter. She froze everyone in a massive radius in a busy city. The traffic deaths alone would probably break triple digits.
>>154950858lol
>>154951004You have to understand that not everyone with powers is guilt wracked mess like Peter who has to wear a mask and help people. Jean just wanted her sister back, and after she discovered she was dead, she wanted revenge. And after Peter talked her out of it, she just wants a quiet life. It's clear that she still has to meet the Chuckster, find out about the mutie's plight, and discover her own sense of heroism.
I haven't seen the movie and have let fanart and posts online build a narrative in my head for me. I rather like this constructed narrative and so I think I will continue to not see the movie and indulge in my fantasies.
>>154950737Everything is better than that
The Hand fight is actually proof Jean was losing composure. Earlier in the movie she would have made them threaten to kill themselves if Peter advanced, but because she's pissed she just throws them all at Peter
>>154951004happens offscreen
>>154946255fucking yanderes man
If jean was evil why'd she make peter cum?
>>154951107That's what evil people do.
>>154951066So you're larping?
>>154951045>She blew up buildings. She walked a guy into traffic. She was smirking while she tried to kill MJ just so she could traumatize Peter. She froze everyone in a massive radius in a busy city. The traffic deaths alone would probably break triple digits.My BASED wife is the cutest and most ruthless girl!
>>154951121back in my day larping used to mean something, it was all about going outside to play
>>154950014>>154950104I've got nothing against Zendaya, but the actual MJ is a supportive tease that knows how to comfort her husband when he needs a brief respite from saving everyone. The writers tried way too hard to make MCU MJ "quirky" and "not like the other girls", so there aren't as many scenes where she and Peter have actual chemistry despite the actors literally being married. I think Brand New Day's MJ was written a bit better, but her interactions with Peter are fairly limited.
>>154951125I fucking LOVE HER. And I say that as a Gwen Stacy CHAD
>>154951107There's nothing more evil than gooning
>>154951139
>>154951107>"How are you gonna save yourself for marriage now?!"
>>154951150>>154950991>Jean is a sociopath who killed innocent peopleThat is just a plus in my book!
I'm telling you this movie needs a series like MTV spider man that treats this movie as if it represents his entire canon
>>154950676They don't care about the comics but they do care about the 90s X-men cartoon/X-men 97 which pushed ScottxJean hard
>>154951135Man, I've seen people who genuinely don't know that MJ is supposed to be a white redhead.I hate Zendayafags so much it's unreal.
>>154951173That's because Zendaya has been playing. MJ for nine years
Someone make an edit of this with Cyclops seething at Peter and Jean
>>154951121No, I'm daydreaming and fantasizing. It's fun and it's free.
Cyclops likes to pose as Zoomers online to say Peter and Jean are sibling coded
>>154950824>>154950874You two don't understand what I'm saying. It's not that the story is the same. They never tried to do the same story on any medium ever. That only happens in Japan.The name of the game is references. These movies need to create their stories as a big reference to something that has already happened in comics. It doesn't matter that it's the same, it matters that the people that see it can go and say "OH YEAH, THAT HAPPENED IN THE COMICS" even though they never read how it happened. This is why stupid shit like Team Cap/Team Iron Man was the main selling point of Civil War. It wasn't that it followed any plot point from previous movies, or copied any story from the comics, it was the fact it was referencing a string of images and vague summaries of something that happened in the comics. That alone sold that movie. Same with Spider-Man. There's a reason why there was such a big deal with those pics that made homage to covers.And yes, there's proof of original productions that tried to sell it all on being original. Those are the worst selling series/movies of the whole franchise. The only exception was the first Guardians movie.
peterjean is genuinely THE slop ship. right after aunt may and jeans hug, peter takes her place for jean. their dynamic is not at all romantic. they definitely give siblings.
>>154951258We love wincest here
>>154951258>they definitely give siblings.Step-siblings maybe
>>154951258Scott...
>>154951173I mean, consider it. We have had Michelle for nearly a decade. Before that, we had Gwen. In the cartoons, I think Spectacular is her last big appearance as a main cast member other than being Carnage Queen in Ultimate. The Insomniac games are the only recent 'regular MJ is Spider-Man's girlfriend' media we have had, and those still tried to make her some sort of Lois Lane-lite character.
>>154951258>May calls her beautiful>May is just Peter's subconscious, his imagination, where he goes for mental support>Peter thinks she's beautifulNow you could just say that "beautiful" in this context is just platonic but still you know how it looks, right?
>>154951445>May>May is just Peter's subconscious calls her beautifulNah, It's just a memory. May called Peter beautiful. May seems like the kinda of woman that would call her teenage son beautiful without knowing or caring that it would embarrass him.
>>154951258kek what a butthurt xfag
>>154951258>peterjean is genuinely THE slop shipThe slop ship is Peter ParkerxMichelle Jones for everyone simply shrugging and saying Peter can't be with anyone else. PeterJean is the dark horse underdog ship against the shitty Peter oneitis over boring ass MJ the writers will never let go.
>>154951475What is with all the fucking tsundere artJean literally made a joke about this sort of thing. She wouldn't be insecure about mouthraping Peter
>>154951512It's a memory Peter deliberately showed Jean. She didn't sift and find it, he presented it to her as the truth hence why agreed with it by saying "you have me" after his Aunt May mental projection gave Jean the pep talk.
>>154951169>I'm telling you this movie needs a series like MTV spider man that treats this movie as if it represents his entire canonWe needed one that bridged NWH and BND.
>>154950659>Peter goes down on MJ after she "suddenly remembers him">It's actually Jean>"HAHAHA YOU'D THINK SHE'D BE THIS WET FOR YOU? SHE'D BE DRY AS A BONE!"
Peter still has some kind of elemental type advantage over Jean. When she dived into Peter's brain he was still fully conscious and able to act on his own and even break out of it.
>>154951527>PeterJean is the dark horse underdog ship against the shitty Peter oneitis over boring ass MJ the writers will never let go.And it's more organic
>>154949881SAUCE???? PLEASE
The writer's well crafted fetish.This movie came up with a perfect excuse for the villain and hero to make out so the villain could gloat about how stupid this is.
>>154951602https://x.com/Crisdeku1SFW/status/2086090896521494565/
>>154951570Can't believe Peter hard counters telepaths now. Our only hope against the mutie menace.
>>154951633Maybe Pokemon type elements work in the MCU because Bug already counters Psychic
Jean Grey killed that homeless guy who got run over by a taxi and endangered a lot of people with her reckless actions, yet no one gives a fuck - not Peter, not the audience.
>>154951657Frank would have killed him in two weeks because he was jaywalking
>>154950886Imagine larping marvel of all things
everyone keeps asking why Jean didn't ask for helpShe literally asks PEter why he's working for damage control . The scene establishes that she thinks Peter is ON THEIR SIDE. Peter then snaps back without realizing that he's painting a picture in her head that he is one of the villains by saying "They're not after you because you're different, they're hunting you because you're dangerous" implying that he is complicit with Damage control and agrees with him.So if you're wondering why she mouthraped him instead of asking for help, she already thought he was one of the villains because he basically spelled it out for her
>>154951561That's honestly a better idea than the Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man cartoon from last year. But writers don't want to pigeonhole themselves by making a prequel and introducing villains that future movies can't use or need to write around. That's why YFNSM became an alt universe story instead of pre Civil War origin series.
>>154951633Characters at a certain power level seem to be able to resist telepathy. It wasn't just Peter, Savage Hulk was able to get Jean out of his head too. Going by this scaling, characters like Sentry and Thor would be immune to her too
>>154951725Peter was even more resistant than Hulk. Jean let Hulk go so she could control Frank but she still struggled with Hulk. With Peter it wasn't even much of a struggle he just nosells her.
>>154951570Bug is super effective against Psychic, as the ancient texts foretold
I love Jean because she's ruthless but in a different way from Wanda but I can't identify how.
>>154951743Could it be that Jean has trouble controlling people with partly non-human dna or something like that? That's the only explanation I can think of.
>MCU unintentionally creates a great ship>fanarts and fics flood the web>it won’t matter in the end since they’ll make sure Peter gets back with MJ since Ned remembers Peter at the end and MJ is implied to remember >Jean will hook up with a Scott who looks like her sibling and is a faggotBravo!
>>154951743She struggled with Professor Hulk, when he finally went full Savage Hulk, she couldn't do anything with him
>>154951116O_O
>>154951773Just enjoy the ride. I understand that they'll just have them be "siblings" but I would rather Peter act as a supportive big brother to her than 4 movies where he has oneitis for a Daria clone who everyone thinks is the greatest woman of all time
>>154951724I'm frustrated that Friendly Neighborhood even exists. It's just an inferior take on 2017 with more MCU fluff. We already have Homecoming. The show offers nothing new
>>154951725Hulk has multiple personality in his head and Punisher kept shooting him which was clearly breaking Jeans concentration. Sentry is schizophrenic, mind control would almost definitely go wrong but not because of power level. Half of Bob's powers are Telepathy, Telekinesis and maybe Pyrokinesis so if the void didn't show up Sentry might be able to fend her off. For Peter it's just his Spider-sense, it a passive form of pre-cog telepathy.
>>154951763Wanda is ruthless in th kind of way that makes twitter stands defend her actions because she's a woman. She will torture innocent people because she is a crazy person. She has lost her sanity and had extreme power. If she was in her right mind she wouldn't do these things. Jean is ruthless in the Sasuke kind of way where she will flatten you if you're in her path. She is not crazy, she genuinely unpersons you if you're deliberately in her way. When she hurts innocent people it isn't because she lost her mind, she just doesn't regard them. She believes humans are monsters. Ant. Boot.
it was ACCIDENTAL guys, they never meant for the movie to indirectly make such a peak pairing, thus they cant capitalize on it, its so overbut it is peak nonetheless
>>154951773Shippers obsessed with their pair becoming canon are the most pathetic of the sort
>>154951725She also can't control animals right? Or doesn't it only work on "proper humans" if I'm reading into it correctly?
So, is this the most Jean Grey has been ever liked by the public? The X-men movies she was despised, and even in the comics she wasn't even that liked either.I guess the actress and dynamic Jean played with Peter in a short amount of time was just that good.
>>154951821It's kind of sad. They made a cartoon to be sort of in-between movies, but then switched ideas mid-production. Then they completely changed all the supporting cast with blacks and asians, and the end product wasn't bad, but by then, you had sort of alienated people.Now, you have this way more important gap between FFH and BND that lends itself better for stories, but you're stuck with Friendly Neighborhood.
>>154946364Holy shit, is MCU actually fixing non-redhead MJ and Brand New Day at the same time? Just give Peter a hot, unblemished (as in pre-whore/X-men) Jean Grey with fiery red hair? Holy fuck
>>154952166The answer was right there since the beginning. Get an actual attractive redhead. The next step would be using AI to swap out Zendaya from the first three movies
>>154951213Have a low resolution shitpost in these trying times
>>154952261KEK, thanks anon
>>154952261Amazing, great work anon
>>154952261>that fucking dialogueman... what did cyclops ever do to you
>>154952308Be lame.
>>154951773>>Ned remembers Peter at the end and MJ is implied to rememberI hate that this is the agenda that this is going to be. If Ned remembers, wouldn't that cause their universe to implode again like in NWH? It's not even about him getting back with "MJ" anymore, it just doesn't make sense from a story standpoint.Why did the writers do this?
>>154952308I still hold a grudge over AvX to be honest
>>154952261KEK
>>154952261Kek
>there’s a SpiderPhoenix subreddit now>with already over 5k members This ship is too powerful.
>>154952394Goddamn...
>>154952336I don't think Ned remember and if nothing else and I'm wrong they left it ambiguous enough that they can change their minds in 6 months while writing the sequel.
>>154952394jesus christ
>Wanda was able to mind control Savage Hulk in Age of Ultron>Jean can't control himX-menbros...we're frauds
>>154952439Eh, Wanda was always the more powerful mutant
>>154951909>reddit
>>154952450Are MCU Wanda and Quicksilver mutants? I thought they were supposed to have gotten their power from Hydra experiments. Now that the MCU is properly doing mutants now, they'll probably go back and confirm Magneto is their father though
>>154952457>>redditAka the only people who think a gay man can portray Cyclops.
Does any other anon want more like pic related rather than porn? Something about this ship and them being intimate with one another emotionally is much more appealing.
>>154952477Emotional intimacy and chemistry is what actually makes ships work. Drawing two characters fucking for no reason is just goonbait
>>154952477There's more pics like this than there is porn, so you're already getting what you want
>>154952469Probably not due to Disney being butthurt about film rights at the time, remember that retcon to Wanda and Pietro in the comics
>>154952162>Nobody gives a shit about any of the other Marvel characters. Go back and do a deal for only Spider-Man.knowers know, unknowers gotta catch up
>>154952477I kinda want more pics of them being cute alongside Frank. Peter gets himself a new girlfriend and a new father figure.
>>154952308The real question is what did Cyclops do to Marvel and Disney. Man can never win. Sad, really.
>>154952166Please, please, please, please
>>154952513Frank isn't a father figure, he's a shithead older brother with a heart of gold
OK so how are they going to write around MCU Magneto being 90+ years old? Especially if they're actually casting someone as young as Jensen Ackles. Being a holocaust survivor is an integral part of his character and you can't ignore that part of his backstory. Same thing with Xavier since he's supposed to be the same age as Magneto. Are they just going to say that the two of them got frozen in time at some point back in the 80s and are now unfrozen while being in their 40s?
>>154946089Yes, but it'd be Jean who raped Michelle.Also technically raped Peter by assuming a false identity for the deed (it's more of a law argument).
>>154952261kek amazing work, anon. SpiderxJean for life!
>>154952477I've only seen like maybe two porn pictures and they were in my opinion not good. Not as cringe inducing as AI generated videos of them making out during the scene. But supportive fanart that captures the loneliness of the characters and the support they offer to one another is the good shit. It doesn't even need to be romantic. Just art capturing that things can grow and improve in a brand new day
>>154952596Why does Peter have hobbit ears
>>154952513>Peter gets himself a new girlfriend and a new father figure.Frank is a more badass father figure"Kill them all, Peter!"
>>154952477I've always wanted just this from ships. I don't give a shit if they have sex or not, but having someone that genuinely cares about you and takes care of you when you need it is the real dream.
>>154951909without canon you're just a schizo living in your own bubble
>>154952477This ship is genuinely heartwarming like syrup
>>154952650With canon, you get marvel/yidsney. The schizo is happy, are you?
>Cucks Peter and Scott by giving Jean 200 year old cockHeh, nothin' personal, bub
>>154952261>Had to completely change the dialogueDamn it, anonArt is lovely tho
>>154952545He'll be palestinian.
soul
>>154952745Text boxes are pretty easy to edit, lol. If you wanna have it say the original dialogue, it should only take you a couple minutes
>>154952439>Wanda was able to mind control Savage HulkWanda didn't control Hulk, just enraged him to the point he actively fought the avengersJean had more control initially until he went full Hulk
>>154952513>Peter and Jean on a date>Frank watching the whole thing through a scope
>>154952855>fingers the trigger every time Peter is about to mess up or say something stupid>Peter thinks this is his spider sense giving him dating advice
>>154952902kek, Jean may notice Frank over them if she gets to sense his mind. But that gave me a hearty laugh
>>154946431Power couple potential, and Mary Jane is too much of a heartbreaker any ways
Generational missed potential
>this chick is evil but cute>she just needs someone in her life to give her a moral code to be redeemed>Spider-Man/Peter is a nice guy and he can fix herDo you just need that to write a Spidey love interest? When are they going to make Venom a chick too?
>>154952978>When are they going to make Venom a chick too?Venom was originally a chick before they switched to Eddie at the last minute. It's why his backstory's so rushed.
And suddenly Mary Jane was not a problem.
>>154953026Damn, old editorials were pretty sexist.
>>154953026Holy shit that's fucked up
The only porn of this ship I like is the one where Jean is nude standing in front of Peter. This ship should be awkward, sweet, and loving. It shouldn't give actual porn energy
The film wanted to hammer it to the audience that it was possession rather than mind control. AS IN it's literally Jean being inside someone's body rather than puppeting them from a third person view. Like THAT is Jean inside Zendaya fondling and licking the inside of Peter's mouth.
think what makes this pairing so powerful is the simplicity of it all, jean in the mcu is basically just spider-man if peter went darkcharacters that parallel each other just have an innate boost to shipping fuel, and its exactly this mirroring of characters that makes the whole "i can fix her" aspect even better because the other guy already went through the same shit if not they had it worse "they have every reason to become a villain"and still choose not to, this shit is just golden man i dont know what to tell you
>>154952855>>154952902>Jean immediately detecting Frank because his fucked-up psyche can be read from miles away>Threatens to implant her memories of her and Peter's first time in Frank's head if Frank doesn't get them milkshakes for when they get home
>>154953100It has to be we see multiple times Jean has to talk to make her targets talk and she feels pain when Banner is hit
>>154953026Should've made it Felicia who went full yandere because Spidey married MJ.
>>154950014She actually interacts with Spidey more than just having a girlboss moment
>>154953124>>154953100What did they mean by this?
>>154953109Like we've been saying. Jean is written as an anime rival for Pete
>>154952902lovely idea
JEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN
>>154953133MJ and Peter's chemistry is so awful I can't remember any single one of their conversations.
You took everything from me.
>>154953138The writers well disguised fetish. He created a scenario where Jean used her powers to lick the inside of Peter's mouth and feel the sensation of his genuine passionate loving kiss and made it fit within the narrative.When you think about it, this assault did not help Jean in any meaningful way. It is more of a character moment. It shows you how ruthless Jean can be when she finds a weak spot. She found that Peter wanted MJ badly so she made me it with him to fuck with his resolve.It doesn't aid in her goals. It just demonstrates how far she will go.
>kevin feige already confirmed they are the same ageplease, kevin, i will singlehandedly make doomsday 1 billion dollars just let this happen! (and write off zendaya)
>>154953109>thematic parallels>intimate conversations>saving each other’s lives>fun dynamic>enemies to friends >one is a redhead and the other likes redheadsYou just mix them all together, stir that shit and it becomes pure unfiltered ship fuel.
>>154953183>MJ but ChronicleAlready mogs Comic MJ.
>>154950636Comics are retarded, never give them a chance
Honestly, if they want to really push the envelope of this old ass IP that is Marvel, they should do the Phoenix Saga with Peter instead of Cyclops
But what about Mary-Jane Watson? Is she just never gonna be in the MCU because she has no powers?
>>154953109Take Naruto and Sasuke's dynamic. Make Sasuke a girl. Include the kiss, dead sibling, subjugation by the state and "we are different from everyone else" stuff.It is interesting that this is the first MCU movie to even have a "gifted people vs humans" narrative
>>154951725>Characters like Sentry and Thor would be immune to her tooThor got mesmerized by Wanda just as easily as the rest of the Avengers in Age of Ultron, doesn't seem like he's any better off against mind fucks than anyone else. But who knows how telepathy and magic play with each other in the MCU.
>>154953232That's magic. Jean is the first proper telepath in the MCU.
>>154953174Extremely low possibility but what if they actually make PeterJean a thing and it’s good? Would there be any consequences for this?
>>154953223>Make Sasuke a girl
>>154951725I think it's more of a spider thing than a power thing. She doesn't hijack Peter at the end of the movie.Hulk wasn't that resistant to her, he was able to shake her off but she literally decided to stop controlling him in favor of frank
>>154952261God, you are AWESOME anon
We are definitely heading head first into a Tai and Sora situation.
>despite liking Spider-Man, never did save a number of images of him in my folder>A good number of them are Black Cat since I tend to group characters that are adjacent (same goes for a few Venom, Miles, Gwen etc. pictures)>in the past week this shit has become 25% of my folderThank you east asians and hue hues>>154953100Imagine how it would feel for her to have the tongue in her real mouth.
>>154953291>saves Miles pictures
>>154953100>Peter leans into the kiss>He is finally feeling human affection for the first time in five years>He feels her tongue enters his mouth>Ok that's kind of saucy for a reunion kiss but mayb->"touch her. hold her."Jean is a monster
>>154953264Oh Lord, the comics would try to do this pairing if the movie actually does it. Can you imagine the shit show?
The fact that Jean clearly remembers things from when she possesses people means she's likely learning a lot of info at rapid speed. She doesn't clumsily kiss because she has the collective sexual experience of everyone she ever bodyjacked
>>154953314Most of them genderbends (I like chocolate) and the occasional "okay that's not bad" I don't HATE hate him but I don't think he's all that interesting. It takes a skilled creative team for me to really get down with him, which sadly for him is rare.
>>154953264More X-Man and Spider-Man interactions and crossfilms.Which is a no brainer because Spider-Man is literally their biggest name, only Avengers coming close.
>>154953342Sometimes I forget just how OP Jean is.
>>154953170>X-men movie>jean is constantly comparing Cyclops negatively to spider-man>"Spider-Man wouldn't have messed that up." "Spider-Man could have done that so much better." "Why can't you be cool like Spider-Man">finally nuts up and kisses her only to be told Spider-Man kisses better>Scott joins them JJJ reddits
There are a lot of characters who are "the protagonist if they went bad" and making Jean that for Spider-man is genuinely an interesting decision even if it has nothing to do with romance in the end
>>154953378Considering they already announced the actress for Emma, Scott is going to be with her while Jean is just gonna be the moody little sister of the team.
>>154946431Jane...Jaen..Jean.DISNEY!!!!!!!
>>154953397>normies like Peter with Jean more>has to settle with canonical hag Emma>also he's half gay nowThe absolute state of Cykes
Andrew explaining that Gwen was "his MJ" is really funny right now
>>154953081>This ship should be awkward, sweet, and loving.Exactly, it's more romantic if anything>>154953323More like based. She WILL make MJ and Peter screw, and she's gonna be INSIDE them both at the same time!
>>154952545Just say his powers keep him relatively young looking for his age
If they didn't change her from Mr Negative we would be having more rape discourse than shipping
>>154953139>Add an anime tier rivalry dynamic>get the most interesting dynamic from the franchise in years
>>154953249I mean we had an elseworld Charles for like 5 minutes before Scarlet Witch Wanda offed him, but that's not really relevant. The closest comparison is Age of Ultron Wanda being able to fuck with Hulk enough to make him chimpout, and pre-V-Max Jean being able to fuck with Professor Hulk but not Savage. Thor might be weak to magic mind fuckery but resistant to telepathic shenanigans.
>>154953170
>>154953118Based assertive girlfriend.>>154953174YES PLEASE!>>154953172I want Jean to find and FINGER all of my weak spots!
>>154953290Who's Peter's incest route consolation prize, then?
>>154952513>alongside FrankFrank only works in small doses>a new father figure.Overdone. The only father figure I'd accept is Peter with his children.
>>154953353Yeah they should scale her. I think they did nicely in this one, limiting her reach.I could live without the phoenix saga being introduced and just keep her as a somewhat good telepath and telekinetic superheroine who makes out hangs out with Spiderman.Jessica Jones must totally hate her
>>154953482>that picCute. What’s the sauce?
>>154952513Frank is more of a "Old guy you befriend at work" kind of dude
>>154953525Artist is fkscrashing It's a recent addition to the boorus.
>>154953482AI slop.
For the entire time Jean breathed for Peter she had unrestricted access to his thoughts
>>154952978The Venom symbiote is already a yandere that turns all of its rebounds and children into distorted versions of Spider-Man>They didn't make Venom Mary Jane an absolute sex bombHorrible missed opportunity there
>>154953482The Spider making him fuck Jean's brains out against his will is sexy as hell
>>154953556Beautiful. I want that in a relationship, Spiderman is so lucky! Also he self flagellates since he could probably have any woman he wanted just by saying "I'm Spiderman"
>>154953605>Pete goes Man-Spider mid-sex>It just makes Jean hornier
>>154953161I just rewatched the Raimi Spider-Man movies and, say what you will about its version of Mary Jane compared to the original, this MJ is intensely into Peter/Spider-Man. Just like, obviously down and constantly poking and prodding Peter to act. This makes her kind of a bad person, but ALL Spider-Man characters are kind of bad people sometimes (except Aunt May and Uncle Ben).It's easy to see what they were trying to do with Michelle Jones, conceptually. Rather than pretty, energetic woman, they had a too cool for school girl. But they fumbled the "obviously into Peter and trying to hide it" aspect of it that would've justified the more acidic, grouchy character. I recall Homecoming actually doing a bit of this, but she's not actually a major character in that and I've never bothered to catch upon Far From Home and No Way Home. It seems like they just couldn't handle making a tsundere character and played into the tsun too much.
>>154953215>But what about Mary-Jane Watson?She reincarnated as MCU Jean or MJ for short.
>>154953223>>154953265Heresy, we all know how this is meant to play out.
>>154953482Rare female gaze instant loss sex pic
>>154952614grandfatherfigure
>the more spidery peter gets the harder he is for Jean to control >meaning if he fucks her in spider mode she can't taper his sex wrath
>>154952614Frank is written as Pete's brother. Their dynamic is described as brothers.
>>154952766that could've been me
>>154953685>The reason why Peter can't save up any money is because he's always having to replace the stuff he breaks during one of his lust-induced rampages
>>154953578>VenoMJ run makes a big deal of the costume change>slimming down from giant goop muscle man into, if not a bombshell, then at least an obviously feminine form>anyway we're done with VenoMJ a few issues after thatWeird, wonder what the point was then? Probably the usual editorial malpractice, just fucking around with the teams and not coordinating properly.
>>154953656>baby face>ridiculously sculpted torso>hands drawn like they're a weirdly shaped, erect penisWhat makes you think there's a female gaze here?
>>154953762What's his name former X-Men editor faggot wouldn't have it, I'm sure.
>>154953170I don't even know who you are
>>154952513Just realized what this dynamic reminds me of. It's not actually that close but it is an amusing thought.
>>154953817Wait a minute it really is literally just this The Crawler is literally a Spider-man copy
>>154953817I would hope Jean's ending is much better than Pop being forced to turn evil and having sad fantasies about growing up and having kids with Koichi, losing her eye and then becoming permanently distant from him as he finally becomes a full superhero
>>154953817kek I am a huge fan of that, particularly since it has 4chan as the main villain canonically. Any news of season 3?Also makes sense since they're heavily based around Spiderman. Jean could definitely be a more violent Pop like figure for Peter
>>154953854There is a picture of them hanging out on the Statue of Liberty, so you can always pretend.
>>154953817This but with Peter and Jean and not a dream sequence
>>154953867>>154953817Jean hanging around Peter's apartment all the time while Frank randomly intrudes just when things are about to get intimate
>>154953891Imagine how powerful their kids would be if the radioactive spider jizz doesn't kill Jean and the baby
>>154953932She has that Phoenix force. The whole incarnation of cosmic fire and life. She will be fine even if Peter was shooting lava from his dick
>>154953817>Peter and Jean IS a romance anime dynamic>particularly one that is already based on spider-man scotbros... noo....
>>154953957So their child would be more of a Hope than a Mayday per se
Peter took a bullet for her. And not even like a wimpy lil bullet, like a big ass rifle round that would have put a fist sized hole in her, if that isn’t a good start of a love story I don’t know what is.
>>154953990>You have me>immediately proves it's not just talk they are bonded forever
>>154953970...I just realized the potential for a future Krakoa arc where their shitty council tries to kidnap Peter's and Jeans kid...like they did with Reed...(And they were lucky they had plot armor in their since Reed would destroy them and their shitty island otherwise)>>154953990That bullet also went through like how many walls from kms away.
>Jean: *sucks off Peter* You're a mess, Spider-Man.
holy shiti can see it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKqxUybaGEk
Just imagine the kind of freaky sex telepathy and telekinesis allow you to have
>>154954099>dubOh that's straight bullshit
PETER DON'T ROMANCE HER!YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE INEVITABLE DARK PHOENIX SAGA
>>154953817THIS MOVIE IS LITERALLY JUST MY HERO VIGILANTES
>>154954112Anon, you can change the audio in the video to Japanese. I do that with all Crunchroll Videos.
>>154954151Jean going Chronicles! I really like her street rat outfit and hoodie. Feels so 2000's
>Jean: That time you kissed MJ? It was me, Peter! That time you had sex with Betty? Also me, Peter! That time you and Ned touched dicks? That... wasn't me. You're gay, Peter.
>>154954299>That time you and Ned touched dicks?Thanks, now I can't get this image out of my head.
>MJ's place gets JEANedWho gets Gwen and Felicia
If Marvel is smart they will make the focal point of the next phase Peter and Jean just like Cap and Toney were the focus before
>>154954350if we lived in the correct timeline, however we do not, the best we got was feige himself confirming they are the same age and thats all were gonna get
>>154954341White Tiger replaces Black Cat.
In exchange for making it canon, I’d be willing to go back and watch the shitty shows I skipped like Ironheart and Secret Invasion. A worthy exchange.
>Peter and Jean get home from a romantic date>all over each other, clothes falling onto the floor>suddenly, a portal rips through their bedroom as they're about to do the nasty>one silhouette steps through the blinding light>It's CABLE, there to cockblock Peter and wingman Scott, since otherwise he won't be born.
>>154954417>Turns out Cable was having a melty for nothing because Scott fucks Madelyn Pryor who gives birth to Cable
>>154954460Scott should fuck Psylocke actually
>>154954417Suddenly Deadpool appears. Being Spider-Men's best friend across the multiverse, cockblocks the cockblocking.
>>154953265Naruto doesn't exist
>Scott is hyper jealous of Peter and Jean's relationship>Her and Peter aren't dating but they're tight as kin>Scott just turns into a hyper chud incel and gets symbioted
>uhhh Mr feige sir, most of the fanart is about Peter and Jean being siblings or lovers.... what now?
>>154954512Kevin "King of Kings" Feige was the one who leaked they're close in age, he's probably smiling right now
>>154954621Technically this happened
>>154954627Became a millionaire and bought five companies to make a scenario where his favorite porn crackship is canon
>naruto
>>154954151There's always a way.
>>154954627>>154954667I'll apologize for all the bad words I have sent towards MCU and watch all of the shows if Kevin actually makes this canon.
Seven years ago a movie starring Jean, Spider Man, and Netflix Punisher seemed impossible
>>154954673>Destin Daniel Cretton says that he asked for Jean Grey to be in ‘SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY’.>“It was not a mandate, it was a request. We asked.”>now directing nartmy schizo senses are tingling...
>>154954151>>154954689The only power-up MCU Spider could possibly get is a symbiote costume, and Venom has already been teased along with the secret wars.
>>154954760I think, or rather I hope the hardy venom thing was just a throw away, like vulture appearing in morbius. No way they're going to use a venom who became venom without any influence from Peter.
>>154954627Smiling at potential shippers begging for water. The next film both characters will be in will be Secret Wars which will be next year.>>154954667Cretton was the one who suggested Jean and the writer they got for the best scenes was someone Zendaya worked with on Challengers which makes me think that if anyone else tries they'll find some way of fucking up the dynamic.
>>154954621I hate her ugly pants kek
>>154954800>The next film both characters will be in will be Secret Wars which will be next year.Ugh, I can already sense the awful love triangle between Peter, MJ and Jean
>>154951568FUARK
It seems clandestine that Masashi Kishimoto is one of the hosts on the Brand New Day Disney+ Documentary Naruto, another franchise where shippers insist that the protagonist should fuck his narrative foil
>>154954827Considering Zendaya is a cardboard cutout, it will be a very forced love triangle
>>154952477I prefer it that way too along with the sex
>>154946039JEAN GREY BELONGS TO SPIDER-MANI DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE X-MEN JUST KEEP HER IN HIS MOVIES
>>154952756Goyim.....
It's funny to consider there's even a possibility of a Jean route in the Spider-Man VN.
>>154954871That would destroy the hopes and dreams of all the people begging for more street level films
>>154954888Spider-Man is already taken outside of the planet looking at the teaser at the of BND
>>154953970Actually, it's more likely that since Peter is the avatar of The Other and as The Phoenix, Jean is simultaneously both its preferred host and its physical embodiment, their child would hae way more cosmic significance than any of their other kids combined.Benjy is the spider-totem of The Scion while Hope is the sole child of the Phoenix itself, naturally if Jean and Peter had a child, the kid would be an avatar of two entities whose sole purpose is to regulate reality (The White Hot Room and the Web of Life and Destiny, respectively).
>>154954913Holy shit I forgot that Peter was the chosen pick of a godlike being associated with an animal and is in charge of safeguarding existenceHe really does have a lot in common with Jean kek
>>154952261Scottbros....
>the ENTIRE Jean Grey hashtag is shipping her with Peter Parker This is like if a movie came out that got everyone to ship Cyclops with Mary Jane
>>154952477We can have BOTH
>>154954871>>154954888Yeah no, Jean is waaay too strong to be a street level hero. Reminds me of an AU where Jean was a solo street level hero with Spider-Man and it created a funny image of a girl who can throw down with GALACTUS fighting purse snatchers and D-list villains.
>>154955004S-sauce? I love this pairing so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l57WNTr-8n8
>Colossus was gay in Ultimate, and Peter dated Kitty>The same will happen with Cyclops and Peter with JeanBros...
PETER WILL KILL DOOM
>>154952261hahahahaha fuck off cyclops. Iron Man was right.
>>154955074Wow, I hate this!
>>154955074>>154955104After making a billion dollars in just over a weekend Marvel are retarded if they do anything but pivot to making the MCU the Peter show.
>>154955068>Phoneix Jean telling Symbiote Peter she will bring him back even if she has to break every bone in his body
>>154955123And there is going to be more Zendaya in these movies NOOOOOOOO
>>154955123>be marvel any time after the 1960s>spider-man is the best selling seriesnothing ever changes
>>154955123>Marvel>Disney >Not retardedLmao
>>154955052To be fair Spider-man is too strong to be a street level hero. He could one punch most of his rogues gallery if he didn't worried about killing anyone. He could probably 1v1 half if not most X-men including Scott. There are plenty of overpowered street level heroes. Jean could make it work, especially if she decides mind control is morally wrong no exceptions.
>>154955052So...Peter's main antagonist of Brand New Day is not a street level threat. They literally started the movie with a montage of him taking down street level threats like it didn't matter to the plot very much. Where are you getting this rule where every MCU Spider-Man movie is street level threats only exactly?
I mean......they may end up hooking Emma up with Scott so...
>>154955123His best villains (gob, doc ock) were established as not existing in the MCU so they could use sloppy seconds from other spider men. JJJ was used for 1 movie and then forgotten about. He has no side cast outside of Zendaya and that fattie. Honestly he really doesn't have any other choice but to keep using heroes and villains from other IPs, until they reboot all this shit and give his side of the universe a better foundation.
>>154955186Scott has several mutant babe love interests. Jean in the comics is his most boring, bland choice which is why they need off shoots of her to keep her character interesting.
>>154952308motherfucker killed Xavier because he couldn't admit he did a poor job training a teenager. Fuck him forever.
>>154955208Xavier was literally saying down boy like he was a dogalso Xavier is a dick bad at training teenagers himself, he has no room to talk
>>154955131>PETER!!! I'M NOT LETTING THAT SYMBIOTE TAKE YOU AWAY FROM ME, AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO REASON THEN.... I'LL HAVE TO BREAK EVERY BONE IN YOUR BODYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDxjc_43f2w>que epic phoenix force vs symbiote battle
>>154955123Spider-Man is big but this is the result of the NWH effect + the hype for Doomsday + the hype for X-MenNext Spidey will have a hard time reaching these numbers because: A) NWH will be long gone. B) Secret Wars will be over. C) New X-Men movies will already be out
>>154955163Well Spider-Man is strong, but not stomp Galactus levels of strong like Jean is.
>>154954913>>154954928Everyone forgets the guy.Hell, this whole BND can be described as The Other Arc if it had more mystical jumbo
>>154954151How much more crazy can the Phoenix Force even make the MCU version of Jean?
>>154955139That’s my greatest fear. They’re going to set it up that she gets back her memories of Peter, or that she ends up falling for him again, or some other stupid bullshit to have them together again. The one time I genuinely want Paul to come and take MJ away and I know they won’t do it.
>>154955123>>154955143>lose film rights to your heavy hitters so you take a gamble and try to make a shared universe out of your benchwarmers>stumble with hulk but somehow knock it out of the park with iron man>the first teamup movie becomes a worldwide sensation and beats out the sequel to the highest grossing batman movie of all time>manage to keep the gravy train going until the capstone teamup movie ends up taking the box office crown from avatar/titanic>immediately lose the plot and barely tread water for years, relearning why your literally whos were literally whos because no one cares about them>release solo film of your long-lost heavy hitter helmed by a no-name director with little advertising>casually breaks records thanks to the sheer iconic status of spider-man and the movie actually being pretty good>does so well that the next teamup movie that was going to be the studio's hail mary has literally no hope of matching its successFunny that in 2012 a solo superhero film lost to the Avengers, but now the Avengers are destined to underperform to a solo supe film.
i am really eating up this anime bullshit and this shipping bullshit bros. they reallly made a great dynamic
>>154955336I think this is the first thing anyone has been happy about regarding Spider-Man in like 10 years.
>>154954102>Just imagine the kind of freaky sex telepathyWatch Legion
>>154955286Never thought there would be a day I'd say this. We need Paul to save Spider-Man media
>>154946039Didn’t Jean kill that man that got hit with the car?
>>154955363Well, people were pretty happy about 6160 until it took a sharp nosedive into nothing ever happens
>>154955240Cope harder
>>154955418Just look at Far From Home
>>154955308Can’t believe that’s Xena
>>154951019Aren't The Hand all undead ninjas?I'm not sure that counts as killing
>>154955394Her penance is to make another person or two and raise them to responsible adults. Peter can help her with that.
>>154955476>Just look at Far From Home
>>154955491>Aren't The Hand all undead ninjas?I'd fuck this Undead cutie.
>>154954745If the gender swap Sasuke, it will be the greatest swap in swapping history.
>>154955394His sacrifice isn't in vain. It gave us the best Spider-Man ship of the last decade
>>154955517>lonely guy chases after emo girlMakes sense.
>this thread has already reached 500 repliesthis ship is too powerful
>>154954673This director literally did a Naruto practice run using Jean Grey
I like this ship a lot and have hatred for Cyclops and Wolverine in my heart. Give me more ideas to shittily draw
It would make sense for them to have Pete fall for Jean just so she can later activate The Pheonix and kill everyone he cares about
>>154955602Get back in the editorial room buddy, this is a fan ship thread, not a real marvel comic writer's meeting
>>154955594Could you draw this >>154952855>>154952902
>>154955594draw a battle damaged peter falling from a building and jean grey reaching out to himput the captions"i have no one" on peter"you have me" on jean
If they are really framing this after Naruto and Sasuke they will have to build up the symbiote and phoenix force as being crazy powerful things that can only be stopped by each other and maybe a little thing called friendship
>>154955602This meme but it's Spidey instead of the hot girl, Jean in place of the guy, and Scott as the jealous girl.
>>154955594Peter and Jean making out while Cyclops cries and Frank runs over Wolverine with a road roller like that one Ennis comic
>>154955644It's okay Scott, you have like a dozen other mutant hoes pining after you
>>154953785Jordan White?
>>154955642I WANT THIS NOW
>>154955642>inner darkness of two characters can only be stopped by each other's presencecorny af, i LOVE IT
>>154955380why does he look like miles morales' dad?
>>154955705>>154955642That's how it plays out in Naruto literally. Just take it and apply it to Peter and Jean and make it actually sexually charged Have Peter or Jean go completely off the deep end with their gifted alien power, then have the other one RISK going off the deep end to save themYou get a final battle that is eye candy and emotional resolution for their bond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySevdi2YWkAlso come on, imagine a version of the Symbiote that is powerufl enough to fight the phoenix force.
>>154955560>Ninjas>Talk no Jutsu>It hurts to be aloneYep.
>>154955905Talk No Jutsu is literally described in the Disney plus special for the movieLiterally they being the creator of Naruto on to compare spider man and Naruto villains having sympathetic causes.Disney WANTS this comparison
>>154955875I was going to commend you because we had the same idea but>dubbedgross
>>154956317Truly sorry. I agree the dub is shit
>>154955240>the hype for Doomsdaylmao
>>154955619Forgive the shitty doodles. May polish up a bit later lol
Imagine if Jean had remained a villain but developed a crush on Peter anyway?
>>154956384Thanks, anon!
>>154956384based
>>154955240>hype for DoomsdayThere is nothing to be hyped about. Geriatric people in costumes they wore 24 years ago punching a bunch of energy while Dr. Doom acts like a retard.
>>154946039"Michelle Jones" has no chemistry with Peterpeople rather ship Spidey with anyone but her huh
>>154950014blame Zendaya and her "acting"
>>154956384KINOOOO
>>154955286Paul was in the film. He’s the boyfriend that MJ kisses at the party.
>>154956729>Paul may be Peter x Jean's best hopePaul was a hero, I just couldn't see it.
>>154946089psychic rape
How quick this interaction will spread to other stuff will be funny.
