This is the first time I have ever fallen for a stupid ship. What do I do?
Accept that the Zendaya crowd brings in too much money for MCU Peter to ever date anyone else
>>154951260Write threatening letters to Kevin Feige to make it happen. but seriously, do NOT do that.
>>154951260Enjoy it while it lasts, spider-cuck. STUDclops is coming to the MCU soon.
>>154951312>STUDclopsThe fag?
>>154951325Actor not the character + He's bisexual not gay + The mcu isn't making him gay
>>154951312>>154951350here's your STUDclops bro, hope you enjoy buttsex with Wiccan!
How did this ship get so popular?
>>154951260kill yourself
>>154951711Self-inserters gotta self-insert
>>154951270No one watches this for Zendaya. And this movie was testament to how awful her on screen presence is and how much better the chemistry between Tom and Sadie was. >>154951312More like STDclops
>>154951260What does this say, that women want to rape men or that men want to be raped?
>>154951711Male hero and female villain, power perversion, "I can fix her" and we see her get fixed in real time, finally Peter talking to another female character who isn't Zendaya. Lots of things.
>>154951260>This is the first time I have ever fallen for a stupid ship. What do I do?live in the momentbecause it was ACCIDENTAL they never meant for it to be such a peak pairing, thats what you do because i highly doubt marvel will go for it
>>154951711Multiple factors:>Memes>Self-insert>Crush on Sadie Sink>Make the Zendaya fans rant on TwitterIt was the perfect storm on maybe the most popular movie of the year
>>154951711They just wanted to ship Tom Holland's spidey with whatever redhead that interacts with him because of how much they hate Sendaya. It just happened to be Jean gray this time.
>>154951871both? Non-con is basically one of the most commonly described sexual fantasies among everyone. #1 for women and #2 for men (behind a threesome with two hot chicks). Everyone dreams of someone supremely hot and powerful having their way with them.
>>154951260Enjoy it while it lasts. Save the fanart. Read some fics if you want.
>>154951260And then Mary Jane was suddenly a lesbian.
>>154951260>What do I do?Objectively look at the story and judge it honestly. Jean is a terrible character and Peter is a retard with so many contrivances working for him that he's practically a plot device in his own story.
I notice that 99% of the new fanart that is coming out with "MJ", they draw the redhead version of her. They refuse to draw Zendaya.It's genuinely funny. They could've cast an actual redhead this whole time, only for it to be one of the most famous superpowered redheads in comics.
>>154951711First remotely human interaction written for Holland-Man, women have pilled up fatigue they don't vent like us.
>>154951260It's just funny to me that sibling dynamics became the cop-out for this when that was the exact excuse they used in-universe for the half-assed rewrite and redub of YFNSM with Nico having an unhealthy attachment to a guy she knew for like six months at most. Brocon my ass.
>>154951850The data shows literally 30% watches for Zendaya, she's one of the most followed people on social media on the planet
>>154952601Data, huh.
>>154952601Lol. Good one.
>>154952633kek
>>154951711>Good chemistry between them in the movie>Women want the guy who helps them even if they're psychotic mind rapists>Men want to fix an evil woman>Peter and redheads just work
>>154951260>What do I do?The same you've been doing for the past week? Keep spamming the board with threads?
>>154951350>Actor not the characterTell that to the Miles haters shiting on Shameek.
>>154951260This is my OTP.
>>154951270Who in the actual fuck watches a movie just for Zendaya?
I've seen this movie 3 time now and they never explain how Peter is immune to telepathy UNLESS he allowed permission.
>>154951711MCU MJ was so awful that people latched on to the first major female character featured in the series.>but lizBarely counts.
Right? I want a telepathic girlfriend bpd girlfriend who will ruin my life!
>>154951711Oh my god...that makes sense. While I like this MCU MJ as fan nod OC character in Brand New Day when her and Peter were talking about chemicals and ultra advanced science a thought popped into my head "oh shes just a smart female Peter?" That's fucking boring. At least make her like something WAY different than Pete. Doctor, Lawyer, fuck even an actor. Both them being ultra smart is just dull.
>>154955693He got that dog in him
>>154955693I’m actually kind of glad they never explained it. The entire movie I was afraid they were gonna retcon Peter to be a mutant or something.
>>154955693Pokémon logic. Bug types have advantage against Psychic types.
>>154955871Psychic is STRONG vs bug. Beedrill gets OHKO by most psychic attacks.
>>154951260Love how this pissed off the Zendayafags.
>>154951711she mind-raped MJ so she could rape spider-mana female rapist is rare these days
>>154955931I wonder how Tom feels about people saying he had better chemistry with Jean than he did with his own wife lmao
>>154955912That is just beedrill being garbage.
>>154955945Probably going to demand Michelle Jones gets more screen time in the next movie.Or they’ll do a movie together to try and prove them wrong..
>Self insertbut I don't want to fuck Jean or Peter and I don't want to watch them fuck. I want them to continue their character arcs together because I find them entertaining
>>154955693Why the fuck do they need to explain it? e is immune because of something related to his spider power.s Its honestly more annoying when these movies try to explain this sort of thing like a wiki article because none of it will ever actually pass a science test anyways. >>154955912Thats incorrect. Beedrill is only weak because of its poison typing. Bug beats Psychic. If a mega beedril landed a bug type physical damage on an alakazam it has the potential to one hit KO
>>154955693He's just mentally stronger than the average new yorker. Smart Hulk was also able to resist Jean to an extent.
>>154955945It's actually pretty common for actors to have better chemistry on screen with people they aren't with in real life. It's something about being too in your head and casual when acting with your actual partner.
>>154951711Because it is preordained by cosmic powers. There is a cosmic force or entity that has one simple universal truth: Peter Parker needs to be with a cute redhead gf. This Force is so powerful it’s not even just limited to him, both of his clones also have redhead gfs last time I checked. The MCU dared to try and disrupt this aspect of the universe, so the Phoenix Force herself was sent to rectify Peter’s lack of a qt redhead.
>>154956185Spider-Man with the Chris-chan fit.
>>154956097The Joey theory.
>>154951260just got back from the theaters and I was surprised by how monstrous Jean was she was ready to kill everyone in the city and whatever happened to guy she threw in front of that taxi did he die, Spidey really should have let Frank shoot her
>>154956302Sounds like you're saying that she needs to be punished
>>154956302I would love to punish her myself.
>>154956345Could Jean handle the size of Frank's frank n' beans?
This ship is especially popular in asian territories for some reasonJapan gave the movie its own distinct theme song for the soundtrack release by the way!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ4an60ZmvcThe only english lyrics are "I love you"
>>154956388It's presented as akin to a shounen rivalry. Of course it's going to get hits there
>>154956388>I love you の先へ僕はもう 独りじゃないね>アップビートで 闇を晴らしてあなたの言葉を胸に抱いて
>>154956302The fact that Spider-man didn't even try to save the taxi guy is silly. Yes, his spider-sense is acting up but he is walking backwards into traffic with his hands in the air just like earlier in the movie with guard that says "come save me spider-man". I like to assume that Jean at least though Pete would save the guy.
>>154951850You’re a crack addict if you think that. Most of the audience that got this movie to a billion are Tom Holland/Zendaya shippers.
>>154956388oh my god.... JAPAN!!!
>>154956674Nobody fucking cares about Zendaya and I would say that they just tangentially care about Holland.
credits to anon >>154956384
>>154956674People ship Ned with Betty Brant more than they ship Peter with "MJ"
>>154956598wait is this song about peter and jeani swear to god
>>154956598If these lyrics are from Jean's perspective I will actually just fucking cry
That whole "I'm you if your life was dogshit" dynamic must hit like crack in japan
>>154956388fuckin' love Mrs. GREEN APPLEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjeiIal1ZR0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfCcs0vLysk
>>154951270they'll tease the ship but never canonize it. It's a descent way to get a soft core x-men launch some attention but the main ship and final ship is zendeya/tom
>>154956388that image needs to happen>symbiote corrupts peter>jean barely recognizes him>manages to penetrate the symbiote and reach peters mind>hes still the same good boi peter its just the symbiote has clouded him>jean determined to pull peter out>manages to succeed in doing so>end scene is jean saying something along the lines of "now we're even" and they go hangout as regular civs in an ending montage>ITS NOT A DATE (but the audience knows whats happening, you know whats happening)peak
>>154956896I am thinking of redrawing Naruto manga panels as a Phoenix vs Symbiote right now Never read Naruto but that one scene you guys are using is really hitting me in the autism
how do we feel about this /co/??? this ship has become too powerful
>>154956598>the movie's japanese theme song is a love song from the perspective of someone who's heart was clouded in darkness ok come on
>>154956758>>154956774Alright you wimps it's obviously not from her point of view. I guess it's just Peter in a better place and loving MJ. If they have the sheer balls to make Pean canon or even acknowledge it, then they fucking deserve that 20 trillion dollars. Granted, the MCU has killed relationships before; Doctor Strange's love interest got married, I sorta doubt Peter Quill will get Gamorra. Tom's in the writer's room as a producer and he has executive control over some elements of what they write. I figured he doesn't have it in him to not have his most famous role end up with the character played by his literal wife.
Jean Gray's powers aren't all that OP to be honest, even the movie's special effects doesn't sell it for me
>>154951260I'm sorry for what I'm about to say anon. But I say it because I've been there and want you to know what to expect.Don't expect to last. That's it. Don't get super attached to it or be ready to be one of maybe five who will keep it alive once the hype ends. The sad truth is that without the backing of some form of canon, the ship is doomed to fade into irrelevancy. Unless Feige realizes he has. Agoldmineand push forward with the ship, prepare to become very small once Zendaya ship gets back on track.Remember, crossover ship always start with a disadvantage and navigate against current. Always.
>>154952388Give Zendaya a wig. Or, since she'll make millions from this movie, make her colour her hair.
Jean and Peter is cute CUTE
>>154951711Universal rule that Peter must be with a redhead. Every attempt to get away or break with this rule leads to ruin and disaster, such is the hubris of heretics, slaves to the demiurge.
>>154956598>>154956996actual translation instead of MTLhttps://genius.com/Genius-english-translations-mrs-green-apple-brand-new-english-translation-lyrics
this reminds me of when ATSV came out and a lot of people were pushing for Peni/Miles
>>154957626>Desperate Milesfags
>>154957800said anon, in a thread of desperate peterfags
>>154957626They only did that because of the trans crowd claiming Gwen and killing that ship
>>154957626We still are
>>154957832Nah Peni deserves better.
>>154956674You're genuinely stupid if you think instagram followers are indicative of real life audience. If that was the case Cats with Taylor Swift would've been the #1 box office movie of all time. There's no one who sees an ad for Spider-Man and says "oh! Let's go see that for Zendaya"
>>154957626but that one was weird because Peni and Miles never interact in any way that could be interpreted as romantic in any moviePeter and Jean do
>Write your villain like a villain>Have them kill a bunch of people>Also make her manipulative and ruthless>Also set up scenes where your audience will be confused she's secretly in love with your protagonistWhy the hell would they do this.
>>154958385Hopefully they will both get to face each other when they get alien power upgrades
>>154949141I don't think they can, they made Jean way too OP at the end to keep hanging around Peter for more MCU era spider-man stories, unless they retcon it by saying her small city side range was only a one-time thing due to extreme emotion from the realization of her sister's situation.
>>154958426small-city wide range*
>>154958426Jean has always been overpowered. Even for the X-Men. That has never been a problem. The logical conclusion will always be her dying in the Phoenix Saga anyways. So why not do it with Spider-Man this time? They have already done it with Wolverine (Last Stand) and Cyclops (Dark Phoenix). Let's try something new.
>>154951711Because the film makers involved her in his vulnerable love life but with the intent in order to hurt and dissuade him from pursuing her or exposing her.She has scenes puppeteering a body to kiss him, having a mental conversation where she is sitting on his bed opening up to him, he goes out of his way to save her life in the end and she keeps his heart beating whilst hospitalized.It reads actually fairly romantic. But its a movie that is supposed to be about male loneliness after becoming an adult and she is the only girl around even capable of understanding him because of the sacrifice he'd made before.
I bet Jean would tease Peter with her feet.
>Liz>MJSorry bros, this Peter likes black girls
>>154958385Vulnerable psychic gremlin-teen Jean Grey was NOT on my bingo card for this year.
>>154956598>>154957506>I understood loneliness>And understood what love is>Making use of my five senses>I will save you>Which means I will also save myself>In the end we are>Both humans>Going beyond "I love you">So I guess I'm not alone anymore>If I'm up-beat>The darkness will lift>Ah, while hold your words close to my heart, yeah>I breathe and I'm aware>The intense pain of living has meaning>I believe at the same time, I face a helplessness that I battle every dayMaybe I'm finally going schizo tumblerite, but this sounds like it IS about them.
>>154958601is this what it feels like to become a shipper
>>154957832Cute Peni, hope she returns more properly in the next movie
>>154958601So for the sake of the movie, the person Peter loves is MJBut MJ isn't in this movie as much as Jean. It feels odd to have this song addressed to MJ, but it also feels odd to have this song addressed to Jean. MJ is the love interest but Jean is the person who would need to hear things like this
>>154958385>Have them kill a bunch of peoplewho did she actually kill I mean you could assume the guy hit by the taxi was dead but people survive getting hit by cars all the time, I don't recall actually seeing anyone die from her actions
>>154958601>>I will save you>>Which means I will also save myselfthis makes it sound like its about peter and jean
>>154958678It feels like a direct response to Jean's whole "people like you and I don't deserve a normal life" rant.
>>154958601No matter who it's about "Going beyond I love you" sounds awesome
You know things are nuts when the rule 34 comments get mushy
>>154958740>Tanking a 50 cal for her right after saving her mentallyYep that's definitely beyond I love you
>>154958900>his back is literally spewing blood all over the floor >jean starts to freak out >Peter is so concerned for Jean he starts telling her everything is fine even though his body is literally draining like a GTA character that hit me so hard
The ironyThe 5th Spider-man movie will not start production until the Naruto Movie is finished because they want to keep that director
Heros would sacrifice their lives for anything, anyone who is worth redeeming. It's not genuine love but it is support. The three most powerful words in the English language aren't "I love you." but "let me help." He's a hero. He helps. Even if helping is as simple as just talking and getting to know a person. That being said, I need leg lock missionary fanart of them
They will double down with Zendaya.
>>154958989It needs to have lots of love hearts and joy
>>154959013I really don’t understand why she’s so popular and in everything, she’s like the definition of mid. I could see her still being pushed as MJ simply because she’s Tom’s wife and he apparently was also producer of the movie.
>>154959040One thing this fandom is struggling to comprehend and yes, this is true, regardless of how any of us feel about it Zendaya is the most famous actor in the MCU right now Yes, more famous than Tom HollandYes, more famous than RDJZendaya is huge. Colossaal. 150 million online followers. Literally three times that of RDJShe reels in a MASSIVE female audience due to her television roles
>>154956747kek this is really good. I love this pairing!
I like mcu jean with peter simple as
>>154956747Based gigachad wingman Frank
>>154959087>Zendaya is the most famous actor in the MCU right nowHorseshit.
>>154951711>Marvel comics editorial being massively butthurt over Mary Jane Watson for decades>MCU decides to replace Mary Jane Watson with "Michelle Jones Watson" an OC played by Zendaya that has nothing to do with Mary Jane>this OC was included as a brief cameo at the end of the first MCU Spider-Man movie>she starts dating Peter at the end of the second movie>the third movie takes place literally one day after the end of the second movie, and Michelle gets the One More Day treatment>MCU Peter mind wiped his high school girlfriend after dating her for 2-3 days at most>the fourth movie gave Jean Grey far more character development and chemistry than Michelle ever had with Peter, despite Zendaya literally being Tom's wife>in this fourth movie, Michelle tells Peter she doesn't love him, while Peter tells Jean "You have me" in response to Jean saying she feels alone
>>154958385>Write your villain like a villain>Have them kill a bunch of people>Also make her manipulative and ruthless>Tell your audiences they're redeemed just becauseJust like every mutie villain in the comics!
Age gap kills this out of the gate if Jean is supposed to be in school
>>154959808Don't worry, Kevin Feige took a break from explaining why a shipping song plays at the end of the Japanese version of the movie to let everyone know Peter and Jean are the same age.
>>154959808How many times, Kevin "the king of kings" feige already confirmed they are similar in age
>>154959808Peter is like 20 or so
>>154959808Feige confirmed they're the same age, which means the one who is underage now is Cyclopscheckmate
>>154960233can you imagine if they give cyclops and jean a canon agegap
>>154951711Two white slightly above average characters shared the trauma and were shot close to each other. That's it. There is nothing special or beyond that here. It's bare minimum. Just imagine how fucking castrated MCU was before that even that basic bitch fanfic tier relationship got people hooked.
>>154959087>muh followersLol. Lmao even. Those don't mean shit when her other movies have been mediocre at the box office. Or did I miss the part where challengers and the drama grossed over 2 billion??
>>154960363She raped him
>Spiderman x Jean is now going mainstreamIn one movie they did way more setup and connection than MJ and Peter had for 3 movies. Guess making Zendaya be le quirky, morbid, deadpan girl didn't move people as much as sad, angry redhead superhero learning to trust again.Like its cute as fuck
they're cute together. simple as.
>>154951260Unlike James Gunn, Tom Holland is faithful to Zendaya.
Kitty, Chat, JeanPeter's best partners are muties
>>154960903Race mixing is based
>>154960903MJ was the best when she was just a civilian. Trying to make her an ace detective, a genius or a superhero was fuckign stupid. The appeal of MJ was for Peter to have stability in his life, someone who could ground him and remind him that hes still a person. The appeal of Black Cat was someone who was on Spiderman's level. Someone who he could let loose with and could keep up with him. Both of their problems were that they only meshed on one half of peter.
>>154951711Theres nothing that Peter brings to the table(from a story perspective I mean) that Zendaya MJ actually needs. Even when the ship became official Zendaya never NEEDED Peter. Peter was always the one that sought out affection and attention while Zendaya MJ could always take it or leave it and not lose any crucial part of herself.Think about it this way, in Brand New Day you have Ned who despite forgetting everything(forget the vague ending of the film for a sec) he instinctively sought out Spiderman and when they get reunited towards the climax of the film, the way Ned interacted with Spiderman shows how Ned despite being this popular party guy now still sought this kindred nerdy relationship, in that way he still needed Peter in his lifeIn contrast think of the scene where Peter and Zendaya are working on the inhibitor. Despite the chemistry that they share, Zendaya is just kind of giving Peter life advice, its about pushing HIM, but Zendaya MJ in that scene is never nerds out with him or gushes his heart out to him about something thats missing in her life. She isnt lost without Peter, she doesnt really have any boy trouble despite shitting on the guy that traded tounges with her. She does NOT need Peter. Which is crazy cause we know one of Spidermans powers is his ability to make any women want to fuck him.But then Jean Grey hears "You got me" from Peter and goes HOW CAN I NOT FUCK HIM??
the most obvious answer is that regardless of if she's going to be a love interest (she won't) jean is a foil character. that's why she is being compared to anime shit and why japanese fans love her so much. japan is obsessed with foil characters of the protagonist. They love the ""we're not so different you and I" trope except they don't have the characters say it, instead they make it painstakingly obvious in other ways. Jean will deliberately hurt civilians to get her way. Peter, when giving into the slightest temptation, accidentally hurts ONE innocent bystander and has a meltdown about it. Yin and Yang. Pussy and Cock. The truth is they will not do it.. Disney will NEVER EVER do it. Enjoy the fanfics now because she is getting shoehorned onto the X-men ASAP and never talking to him agian.
>>154960819The did the alt-girl thing where that IS the basic bitch archetype of the now.A Mary Jane classic intro played straight would be the most subversive thing these days.
the thing is peter went from disregarding mj to immediately being in love with her in the next movie, she wasn't even a main character in homecoming. she was basically a cameo. then IMMEDIATELY after far from home shit hits the fan so their relationship always took a back seat to the action.With Jean Grey her dynamic with Peter is the action
>>154960932We have actual manchildren in charge who don't get this, they use Peter as their self-insert vehicle for highschool kisses across 616 which just makes him look like a playground version of a womaniser, it's gross. The man used to have yearning depth.
>>154961031Plus you also have to consider the meta reasons why we may never get it even IF the big wigs are aware how popular this is and want it to happen>Tom Holland is gonna take a big ass break from Spiderman so who knows if hell be committed to a new project after said break>Doomsday and its sequel would have to do gangbusters just to show execs that the brand hasnt completely died>then their X-Men film itself would also have to do well to show if that brand is worth investing and people dont just opt out after DoomsdayYour best bet is honestly just hoping they can do a WHAT IF animated episode(or god forbid an actual comic) to hop on the hype
>>154951260You know what to do.
>>154960998The YEARNING must be mutual. Zendaya's MJ by the constant assertion of her independence ironically makes her unrelatable in matters of love.Love makes you vulnerable. Love makes you put your cards on the table and be vulnerable. It's why a lot of modern romance struggles here and it becomes just pure banal eros. Let us SEE the depths and passion of the soul yearning for acceptance from another.
I only want this ship if Peter doesn't reciprocate and Jean harbors some resentment that is only tempered by her love for him In fact I don't want a happy ending for them. I want them to inspire happy endings for others but suffer. Maybe Peter eventually starts to recirpcoate and then dies. Or he starts to be nicer to her but she takes it the wrong way.
>>154961116satan told me he was a big fan of you
>>154961109This is probably the one thing the previous sets of movies both managed to do. The relationships aren't great, but they understood that if your Spider-Man is going to have a relationship as part of his core dynamic, Mary Jane/Gwen has to actually WANT Peter in a real way. And both Kirsten Dunce and Emma Stone's character's clearly do. It's not written amazingly, of course, or even particularly well, but it does get the emotion across.And this is true to the comics. Everyone of Peter's original love interests was genuinely into him and had a conflicted yearning to be closer to him. Something that frustrated them as they saw him flash hot and cold or generally began to suspect something was up with him.
So does anyone here wish they used a spider-man villain for the main bad guy of this film?>>154958958Man fuck Naruto>>154959040Zendaya has one hell of an agent, was a Disney child star I think(which is probably how she got the role), and she's popular with the female audience(something something friend's gf says she liked her in Euphoria).
>>154961116>Peter collapses to the floor, having saved Jean one last time as the writhing blade of the All-Black pierces through his chest"I-I think I get it now. I think... yeah, it was always you, wasn't it? You've been holding me together, when Ned went bad, when MJ ran off with Paul–">Black ichor spews from his mouth, his blood itself rendered vile, lethal poison. Phoenix could stop the bleeding, pump his heart, move his diaphragm, but it didn't matter anymore. Knull's blade was like death itself, and it had come for him."Peter, please, don't go. I-I was supposed to have you, remember?""You do, and you always will. Jean, I love—">His head turns, veins dark, strikingly visible against his pallid skin. Jean reaches into his mind, desperate to feel him there, to hold anything that might be left and see that smile one last time. Of course, there's nothing there. Not anymore, not ever again.
>>154959087Who the FUCK cares?
>>154951260Get your test levels checked stat.
>>154951260It is normal, that was all I could think of as I left the cinema
>>154961116>>154961341Marvel editorial get outta here
>>154955127Women
>>154958474Scholar
>>154958474Another idea, telepathic handjob
>>154959087Are you 12? Internet follows don’t actually equal box office success.
If it wasn't for Hollywood/Marvel's love of cucolding and their shitty writing I would have loved to see more Marvel characters be paired off more with different characters. Cyclops with Phantazia or Gambit, Madelyne Pryor with Multiple Man or Lady Mastermind, Havok ending up with Dust or Mudusa Spider-Man ending up with Silver Sable or Bobbi Morse/Mockingbird.Oh...the wasted potential these pairings could have had...
We are both humanI will save you
>>154951260Why is Jean a muslim?
>>154961652>Cyclops with Phantazia or GambitWhy would you want Cyclops to date Gambit?
>>154961652Slott ruined Peter/Mockingbird for me.What the fuck was even that? Felicia got better treatment then the Wells run.The WELLS run.
>>154960857Why would James Gunn be faithful to Zendaya?
>>154951711I just find it neat with two people struggling and like Jean in her rough hoodie outfit the most. This is my favorite version of Jean in years.
>>154962084Wonders of having a personality more than just doing poses and staring at the camera
>>154955127Women. She's considered non threatening to women by how fucking ugly she is. That's why women hate Sydney Sweeney.
>>154958413This makes me feel sad
This Peter Jean stuff is really funny when you realize the POV shots of Peter have Pete wearing a Cyclops Cam
>Man-Spider powers represent him distancing and coccooning away due to feeling vulnerable and not allowing himself to do so and not opening up, and trusting others>But also it's his cool new hip powers and they're good and they're cool!>Zendaya spells it out that his previous life is gone, she has no thoughts about him, he has to move on and create a brand new circle to rely on>But also we need Ned! We like Ned! More Ned and Spidey back again after one whole movie!It's like 5 different people tried to write this one.
>>154962297>>Zendaya spells it out that his previous life is gone, she has no thoughts about him, he has to move on and create a brand new circle to rely on>>But also we need Ned! We like Ned! More Ned and Spidey back again after one whole movie!That part where she invites him to hang out is so painful...Not that anything else wasn't, that "It wasn't your choice to make" when it was literally his choice was stupd as fuck
>>154951260So is Marvel unhappy about this blowup or fueling it now? Corporations don't like unplanned success, it may fuck up their plans.
>>154962297Yeah honestly I liked the movie but the ending really pissed me off. They built the perfect setup for Peter to find new buddies and a new love interest but nah actually throw it all away, Ned fucking remembers because magic!! Get the gang back together again. Wow great I can't wait for more of this retarded comic relief character. Way to completely shit on the message of your movie. Always 1 step forward 2 steps back with MCU Spider-Man
>>154962360I have a feeling they may have anticipated that people would like Jean. She is absolutely here to set up that Mutants exist in the MCU for the general folks and drum up hype. She did that. They might not have anticipated that people want her to be a Spider-man character now. So she was too effective.
>>154962369They might use it boost any future Mutant films. I know for a fact that I might just go watch a film if it has Peter cameo wth Jean
>>154962297Director is a web. Gave Jean and Peter a powerful and presented is a a a good thing.It is totally broken. Peters powers were clearly set up to be tied to burying his humanity, but he can do both so that means it's okay to half bury your humanity. Jean is clearly supposed to be misguided for thinking Peter must choose between being a Spider and a man. She is actually decently set up for this. She clearly chose to be a monster after feeling like there is no choice. To her with great power comes great dehumanization. But the story needs her to be wrong here while also giving Peter cool powers so she just apparently loses this opinion after meeting aunt May. A person who died because she was caught in a cross fire between super powered freaks
What pisses me off the most is that Marvel is NOT gonna do anything with this. They accidentally gave us something really interesting and one of the most unique relationships they have given Spider-Man.But nooooo, Marvel is too scared to explore this. I guarantee they notice all the art and discussion surrounding him and Jean, but they're just gonna stubbornly follow their agenda because they are traumatized by the MCU failing. When this one aspect is one of the most interesting things they had done so in years.Honestly, I don't think a love interest is gonna happen. At most, they'll have them together as like rivals or something like that. As disappointing as that will be.Most people like this want more, but a lot of them realize Marvel won't capitalize on this. It is very aggravating.For now, I'll just enjoy all the art and fanfics. They are leagues better than what Marvel could ever do anyway.
>>154962400>Marvel wont capitalize on something that completely fucks over CyclopsThis should be a good thing.
>>154962400They accidentally created a character dynamic in the middle of all their avengers movie setup
>>154962420This is the downside of mixing character brands. Marvel created a sub fandom for Jean Grey that wants her to be a supporting character for Spider-Man
>>154962420>>>Marvel wont capitalize on something that completely fucks over Cyclopspeople are making fun of him ever since they announced the casting. they already screwed him over before it even began
>>154962426>sub fandomIf you combine shopping and sibling fags I think they overtake the amount of comic Jean fans
>>154962420
>>154962426I mean I'm not against that. But love interest? Think of the Scott fans.Peter has no shortage of superpowered girlfriends anyway. In fact they should let this opportunity to have Sadie-Jean wingman for Peter and Kitty.
>>154962360I doubt they care but they'll have a scene where Jean doubts herself in Secret Wars and Peter will give her a peptalk or some shit.
>>154962426I haven't seen Jean this popular since...ever. Like, when was the last time you can remember Jean Grey being popular? The old cartoons? Even then Rogue and Storm were way more popular
>>154962440I don't know aboutice interest. But if you look at the discussion around Jean online even the people vehemently against her being a love interest want her to be attached to Spidey
>>154951711>hot female antagonist kisses hot male protagonist sloppy style in order to "mindbreak" him>"you have me">literally takes it upon herself to save him by diving into his conscious and force him to breathedesu if marvel didn't expect this to get popular they might be retarded. shippers can unironically work with less
>>154962400They created a perfect parallel to Pete but she's fucked because she's from a different trademark entirely
>>154962400IF Jean wasn't such a major character, then they could've definitely worked something out, but they obviously introduced her in this film to set up the X-men films later on down the line. She's probably gonna be face of the mutants by the time things are setting up.Also, it is still a crossover ship. 99% of times they don't work out because of IPs. Disney and Sony are still being stupid with one another too. And believe me, they ARE that stupid to not do anything with this.Like you said, just enjoy fics an art. Way better than whatever the response would be.
>>154962297I think the idea is that he was bottling it up,. His powers themselves aren't what is tied to his isolation but simply not being authentic. Peter authentically wants his friends back and is authentically half spider. He can't just turn his psychology off. The story is saying you need to accept your needs
>>154962400>>154962494Yeah this wouldn't be an issue if she wasnt a founding X man
>>154951260>What do I do?you harass marvel writers and editors until they make it canon
>>154951270Nah, she's done for if the asian community is this into sadi, Marvel caters hard to that audience and if sadi jean sells more than zendaya MJ holland's gonna have to get comforable sharing screen time more with sade than his wife the next time there's a film. is the movie out in china already? If it makes bombshells of money there and it's because of sadi it's game over for her.
>>154957626Peni and Gwen hid the truth form miles and tried to convince him to let his own father die, that's too fucked up for me to take that ship seriously
Mcu'sJean
>>154959808So? Younger girl x older man is acceptable for most people as long as the older man isn't like pushing 30, Peter's in his twenties now, it's legal in some countries and states
>>154960932MJ was best when she didn't exist, only Stan Lee liked her and everybody else despised her, honestly, name a single instant of people ever liking Mary Jane ever or her having fans? If it weren't for Lee forcing her on people she'd of disappeared eventually and nobody would care, like how much do Pepper Potts, Jane Foster, Betty Ross and Peggy Carter matter to Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America stories or people even clamoring for them? Hell even in the MCU nobody gives a damn about them, people hate Pepper for forcing Tony's shitty daughter on us, people hate Betty because she was the worst part of the 2008 movie, people hate Foster because of Love and Thunder and nobody gives a damn about Peggy Carter because thankfully they kept her as Cap's reward for all the bullshit he put up with before they retired Chris Evans's version of the character.
>>154962420>Marvel wont capitalize on something that completely fucks over CyclopsWait, Marvel would love to. I mean isn't it funny how Jean x Peter became so popular, which completely stole the thunder from Jean x Scott before Scott even had a chance. Next thing you know is that every rumoured Scott actor look like balding manlet or scrawny uggo, as if they are trying to make Scott as unappealing as possible from the get go. Now they've picked a guy that frankly just doesn't look like a good match with Sadie, and also is gay. There are too many "Fuck You Scott x Jean" flags from the get go for a coincidence. I wouldn't write Jean x Peter off for now. Maybe it's just Marvel specifically hating Cyclops and not them trying to clear the way for Peter x Jean. But that whole thing is weird.
>>154962569>Fuck You Scott x JeanThat would be very stupid to start reboot with making integral part of X-Men a dogshit. We already had it in Fox X-Men, I doubt Marvel want people to say "Oh, not again!".On other hand Marvel had plenty of fuck ups that just didn't make sense for how stupid they were, so idk.
>>154962526This. I need this ship to happen I lost so much in life already aaaaaaa
In this whole situation the funniest thing is to be Zendaya. And maybe actually Holland too since everyone ship his gay ass with ginger smokeshow.
>>154962569To be fair, Tom himself is a balding manlet who is aging as badly as his wife.
>>154962526>Harassing Marvel editors to change anything about Spider-ManThe last time this worked was the death of ben reilly in the 90s
>>154962526Marvel editors work on opposite pressure.Try telling them you really hate something, that increases its chances. The current crop are a spiteful bunch.
>>154956719>>154951850Gen Z women and blacks troon gays or whatever do. People here have avoided the normal fag bubble so hard (not that I blame them) they have no idea how much pull she has for them >>154962117No woman outside of liberal women whining cares about her.
>>154951260What could have been...
>>154962387god damn this jean is hot
>>154951711Zendaya’s MJ is a starfish so any girl with a sliver of personality by comparison will appear wildly more interesting
>>154962778man they write zendeya's mjs so boringly. the only thing she's got is that she's pretty emotionally intelligent, but that's it. rolled my eyes at the healthcare bit and the super genius inhibitor bit.
>>154957626They only pushed that because the "gwen is Trans" meme hit and Miles fans were shitting blood in rage at being seen as gay and desperately trying to find any other ship to latch onto.
>>154951260Spiderman is highly satanic because he's part spider aka DEMON
Imagine the sex between Symbiote Spidey and Phoenix. Fucking hot. Anyway it’s a shame that this takes place in the family friendly vanilla MCU and also that Jean is utterly tied down to the X-Men reboot. Otherwise there’s a lot of gold to be mined here. I would take an anime to explore this idea. Pretty sure Spider-Man’s way overdue for an actual good animated show. Just take the adult swim avenue that dubbed anime does, 16-18+. Spiderman, X-Men, and even the Avengers take place in the state of New York so it’s not difficult to have Jean and Peter bounce around.
>>154962447Why would Frank disapprove of Peter and Jean hooking up? Jean proved at the end of the movie that she's on the level by helping him save Peter, plus, it means his new kid brother is gonna get some action now, Frank should be happy for him.
>>154963033HIS WIFE IS DEADDDDDDD. He's jealous.
>>154962420>fucks over Cyclopsfuck that boring loser
>>154963078fuck you, enjoy michelle jones
>>154957626I KNEW zendaya had a penis!
>>154957265I'm 95% sure her contract says that her character must look like her irl persona, without any change. People shit on the Rock for being the same character in every movie he acts in but Zendaya is the same shit, or maybe even worse.
>>154962360>fueling it now? Feige kinda fueled it a bit by confirming Peter and Jean are a similar age.
>>154962297>>154962304She WANTS to get to know him again. She's mad that she never got the chance because he chose to isolate himself for five years instead.
>>154962778>>154962799You'd think they'd play on the idea of MJ being from an abusive household with an uncaring father. Which would put her attitude problems into perspective.
>>154963267Surely the boyfriend is also because she felt like she was missing someone, right?
>>154963513It's not like she knew she had her memory wiped and her former boyfriend was still pining for her while refusing to talk to her. She talks to Peter and immediately starts thinking he's a great person.
>>154958989>Heros would sacrifice their lives for anything, anyone who is worth redeeming.So true>That being said, I need leg lock missionary fanart of themB A S E DASED
>>154960819>sad, angry redhead superhero learning to trust again.I am a sucker for broken girls wanting to trust again. Jean tickles my "I can fix her" neurons just right.
>>154962566>only Stan Lee liked her and everybody else despised her...This legitimately a terrible take. Your are a bad person for having taken the time to type this out.
>>154961728She is a 2000's hoodrat. I am so happy if this fashion is getting a comeback
honestly i think the movie needed to show one scene of jean grey by herself hating how popular spiderman is to justify all the shit she pulled, kinda like electro had in TASM 2
>>154963845He was working for the child abducting government, that is more than enough
>>154962553>Older man>"Pushing 30"Sometimes I forget this site has a large underage population
>>154963133>>154963172Hear me outCyclops x Zendaya and Peter x Jean
>>154963923Oh please take Zendaya. You would be doing the world a favor.
>>154963989I always wondered how someone so boring could get so many big roles like Dune and Spider-man. Is Zendaya a nepo baby? How rich are her parents?
they are sooooo cute!!!
>>154964026they almost did it in the comic
>>154964075
>>154964024her parents are teachers, she just started doing it early and got her break by becoming a disney star on the show Shake it up.
>>154964144>her parents are teachersSo part of the liberal deep state? That explains it
Marvel citizen would hate if their hero spiderman decide to end with a filthy mutant.
>>154964024She's ugly but can look presentable with enough make-up, lighting, good angles and digital effects. Perfect for a Hollywood desperate to push the normalization of ugliness. I'd compare her to a pug, she fills pretty much the same role.
>Peter is too played, try to replace him with Miles>The movies get popular>Miles needs a popularity boost, but him in the movies and games>Stan Lee passes, fans start talking about how he blessed Peter/MJ to get together>Put MJ into everything>Creatives find MJ to be just Spider-man's gf with nothing going on>Empower MJ, she is the real hero, and add Paul>Fans find another redhead for Peter that already has more going onSpider-man is the golden goose that just keeps waddling forward despite having to drag its own entrails behind.
>>154964238>Never ask a human hero the species of his girlfriend
>>154964144Huh how did someone like her manage to rise so high? I am still impressed there wasn't any nepotism>>154964244Yeah but compare her to Sadie, I am sure there are lots of other brown girls who can actually act. I still can't understand WHY her
>>154964024They could become a famous footballer.
>>154964238Spider-Man sympathising with, and even endorsing, mutants would be a good excuse to turn New York against him. Then it becomes a societal conflict between those who trust Spider-Man after all the good he's done and those who have been so thoroughly harmed by mutantkind that it overrides their love for him.It would be a way to explore Spider-Man as a public figure on a global scale. With Peter being forced to acknowledge he has reached the level of international influence after BND, Secret Wars and some other shit. Especially after it leaks that he designed the inhibitors used against mutants.
>>154964289>I still can't understand WHY herCould be any number of reasons. Maybe she's the best of the bunch at giving head to old Hollywood execs, maybe her offscreen personality is more aligned with what they want, maybe she's good at keeping Holland in check
>>154964238>Spiderman dating a mutantDEI bullshit
>>154964075>>154964097Peak
>>154964530rude Spiderman's best girlfriend was a mutant
>>154964498@??
>>154964693https://x.com/bluemochizz/status/2086412169000931390
>>154964726nta but thanks anon, adding it my collection even if I can't understand it ( I assume Jean wants more kids)
>>154951260Wait why do we have two threads?
>>154952388Well shes just an actress not official iconography. Like no ones drawing tom holland either.
>>154952388Actual MJ just has a nice look. No offense to Zendaya, but the redhaired model is just more recognizable
>Deadpool: They have a new Jean Grey in this world>Wolverine: Go on...>Deadpool: She's a teenager though.>*beat*>Wolverine: ... Go on...>Deadpool: Did I accidentally hang out with Ultimate Wolverine?
>>154955945What makes you think he heard?
>>154955693Andersen?
>>154955931there exists people who like her?
>>154964735The rough translation:>Jean: I will control you.>Peter: Go ahead, it won't work on me4 years later>Kids: Making pew pew/whip whip noises>Jean: Looks like you're under control now, eh?
>>154957017Why do you people keep spamming this shit? They're PROFESSIONAL ACTORS. Their real life relationships mean nothing. Ever watch the league? Pete was married to kevins wife in real life even before the show started. Didn't mean jack shit they just cast them based on who could play the character best.
>>154964903I want an assertive bpd telepathic girlfriend so badly. Jean is so perfect!
>>154964914its a little different when the actor is a producer and also has influence in the story. and didnt tom want his wife in the movie when she wasn't supposed to be in it, or am I misremembering
>>154964618Please stop forcing this annoying cunt.
>>154959087>more famous than RDJnah
The Japanese theme song for the movie really says it all
>>154965105You know you've got a great ship when the two best pieces of evidence for it is the producer awkwardly confirming "it's not pedo they're actually the same age" and the end credits song for the Japanese language soundtrack
I am stupid. Explain the Japanese song.
>>154961095>soap opera brilliance of the charactertranslation please?
The Japanese song plays it more like love, as Jean sings to Peter >>154958601
>>154962117Why is she cast as their self inserts then?
>>154962297I kinda like it though. Its like real life. There is no message or right answer. Everything is tradeoffs and different paths.
>>154965277Women like to self-insert into people the feel superior to and men like to self-insert into people they want to be
>>154962420Is there some reason comic stans think cyclops is so important? Wouldn't execs care more about making money than the integrity of some comic book character's relationships named cyclopes?
>>154965396Right? I think the same, I mean Ned is very different from Harry and at this point the MCU is barely following the comics.I even argue not following the comics IS A GOOD THING right now given the miserable state of Marvel's woke releases. We already saw what happened with Iron Heart and Mrs. Marvel.So I think if they got better writers, it's good they are doing their own thing instead of following the formula left by unemployed talentless hacks that got hired in nu!Marvel's woke era.
>>154965396he's the leader of the xmen what the fuck are you saying
>>154962420What do you mean, you x-fags love character assassination so much. Remember how you celebrated rightclops? And krakoa? What's the harm now?
>>154965459Bro...even when he was the "leader" of X-Men people looked at Professor X and Wolverine first.
They won't adapt Phoenix right?
So... you wrote a character dynamic so endearing that people want a main character from a different sub franchise to be the deuteragonist of the spider man movies
>>154965525Honestly? Doesn't matter. Spider-Man has worked with Phoenix plotlines before
>>154965525I hope not. Or leave it for after 3 movies have gone with them as a couple. Jean is fun as a street level hero and I love how they capped her abilities by making her mind control more like possession and not having telekinesis as her main ability.I am sick of overpowered all mighty protagonist. She should use the phoenix only under extreme stress and reserved for Thanos level threats in an avengers film, not have it be her base power level.
>>154965560>Spider-Man when he doesn’t hold back
>>154965536its funny how a month ago people were like "why the fuck is jean grey in a spiderman movie"
>>154962440Would have been a good time to bring in black cat desu. I feel like it may be too late now that people want this ship.
>>1549655774 years from now: Why the fuck isn't Jean Grey in a spider man movie
>>154965567>Jean is fun as a street level hero and I love how they capped her abilitiesWasn't she on the verge of snuffing out Manhattan
>>154965603That's what makes it hot.
>>154965577They were right to ask why. But kudos to the movie makers for doing something risky and out there. It really paid off
>>154962553>like pushing 30lmao
>>154962566>Tony's shitty daughter on usonly saw her in endgame so I liked her
>>154965577>>154965599>here's the most compelling character dynamic in an MCU movie in over a decade>oh btw they'll never be in another project together again lol>enjoy more Zendaya mean mugging Peter
>>154965599>ship so good it starts getting zoomers to start demanding sex scenes in movies
You know a ship is hot when people call sibling coded for a character who already has a sibling
>>154965603Yeah she's a fun foil to Peter because of how ruthless she is. I like the moral conundrum, particularly since mind control is always seen as more of a villain ability.That's also why I wish we still had Purple Man to be her main enemy. Also Jessica Jones could make for a fun interaction since she'd be wary of Jean all the time.
>>154958426Yeah, she's an omega level mutant
>>154965743Doesn't have to be, since they are already doing their thing and not following the comics that closely. Otherwise she would have used her telekinesis a lot more in the movie and I'm happy that they limited her.Keep the omega shit for Avenger collabs
>>154964238He was already dating zendaya.
>>154965702>sibling codedI hate this retarded buzz word. Why do people feel inclined to push their interpretations on others?
>>154965760kek
>>154965560Wasn't that a red herring dream sequence or something?
>>154965760kek good one anon
>>154965760holy shit, you made me spit my drink
>>154965134weird mischaracterization because why would he even mention their ages if not for that? They didn't talk about spideys black bosses age, her kids, punisher, hulk, damage control, the hand
>>154965301I meant booby sweeny
>>154965459Was this known? kek he has no cultural staying power
>>154965159See: >>154965175The song that plays during the credits in the Japan screenings ("Brand New" by Mrs. Green Apple) is about someone who was in a dark place, but manages to get by because they heard words that made sure they weren't alone anymore.
>>154965536they NEED to become a superherosquad
>the past couple of threads about this ship have been conisntely reaching bump limit>with actual discussion too>there are TWO threads in the catalogue which will most likely reach bump limit at the same timeThis ship is too strong. I don't think /co/ has done this far for a ship from recent memory.Also, you anons have made me browse these threads nonstop...
>>154965908I wonder how bad Sony wants to kill DDC for putting Spidey in a golden trio with two characters from different franchises that they don't own lmao
>>154965908My Hero Academia Vigilantes is just this
>>154965908This same movie established that the Punisher is practically useless in close range with Jean.
>>154965794Sort of, it was a VR simulation but also he faked the phoenix force using bio-organic circuitry from Phoenix (alt future jean and scott's daughter) because everyone in the VR except for Spider-man and Captain Brit were robots.
>>154965931Same to be honest>>154965934>My Hero Academia Vigilantes is just thisEven better because on it 4chan is canonically the main villain
>>154965933They are literally getting free money though. Like, Disney must be fuming that they have to come back to Sony and give them a piece of some of the biggest films in the cinema....Sony are really lucky they got Spider-Man from Marvel for cheap years ago when Marvel was struggling
>>154965767You can always tell when its only childs
>>154965977>mha vigilantes main antagonist is literally an anonLMAO never thought of this before
>>154965934Never watched becuase he has a fat mom
>>154965979>Sony are really lucky they got Spider-Man from Marvel for cheap years ago when Marvel was strugglingThey could've gotten the entire Marvel Universe but only wanted Spider-Man because nobody gives a shit about the others.
>>154965979Is this the same luck that caused them to pass up outright just buying the rights to the highest grossing movie universe?
>>154966049The little bombs he creates are literally called Anonymous
>>154966061You're thinking about standard MHA.Vigilantes is a prequel spin-off.
>>154966078Considering if they outright bought it, there is a decent chance they would have fucked it all up Madam Web/Kraven style, yes.
>>154966061That's MHA. Vigilantes is a spinoff. The protag's mom looks like this.
>>154966089>Vigilantes is a prequel spin-off.Yeah
>>154966091Oh no doubt still they must seethe with jealousy everyday just seeing what could have been
>>154966124wowza they couldn't just do this before?
>>154966061No, MHA is the story of the useless crybaby goodie two shoes De-KEK.Vigilantes follows the chad Koichi who fights crime without license and doesn't have a busted ability, so he has to make use of his wits to punch above his level. He's heavily based on Spider-man, including the insect theme (he is cockroach themed)>>154951260Pop would be Koichi's Jean? Or would that be the Bee? Also season 3 when? I can't wait for 4chan to appear!
>>154966049>LMAO never thought of this beforeI love that he seethes so hard he literally uses multiproxies to troll.Koichi is the only jannie I respect.>>154952297Mary Jane has a great design. I love Jean so I feel conflicted about her appearing someday.
>>154966164So hes a standard japanese man?
>>154951260Don't even get your hopes up, Tom probably has heavy input after the success of BND and his ideas and he's never going to let them move on from his literal wife.
listen i know this is not /a/ but lemme just derail the thread for a bitthis manga is 10x better than the main series, the fact that you get essentially a spider-man story where his mentor is this verse batman (his power got stolen by AFO) is fucking amazing and its executed insanely well, and the progression of power for koichi was just done way better than deku, he went from having a pretty good mobility quirk and turned that shit into an omni-directional super agile tool that lets him fly, air walk, and essentially a defensive shield that can also brace his broken bones?? so he can still stand up for a fight, peak manga all of you should read itanyways thats all, go back to spideyphoenix shipping
>>154966195Unfortunately thats not the design we ever got. Even in the new videogames she looks frumped.
>>154966197Except badass>>154966202A shame, she sucks so much. Someone make Zendaya publicly netorare Tom so he divorces her and gives us more Spidey x Jean as revenge
>>154966202Don't hollywood actors cheat on each other all the time? I doubt its that important.
>>154966209>having a pretty good mobility quirkIt wasn't even good at the start, he has a "almost as fast as a granny bike" at the beginning. His progression is what made it entertaining.>>154966216Is she gonna be dark skinned? I could see them going for an Afroamerican Mary Jane as in darker than Zendaya
>>154966209It is funny how this basically has the trio dynamic people want from Peter Frank and Jean
>>154951260so this is ya'll sex symbol?
>>154965977>>154966049>>154966087So glad I saved this
>>154965396Cyclops is important because he's a square. The X-Men are a bunch of a batshit weirdoes, and in theory, Cyclops is the one who has to tard wrangle these lunatics. Does he need to be paired with Jean? Not really. If anything, the image of Cyclops screaming JEAAAN at the top of his lungs has done much damage to his character, and most writers don't like him because he's not one of the "cool" x-men. So he's always getting the short end of the stick. Personally, I think the actor they cast to play him is going to do more damage to him than BND. Bro is prepped to take it in the ass. Literally and figuratively.
>>154966257Luckily you'll have ned (man in the chair) and mj (woman in the chair) (pants on)
>>154966209oh and one last thing:i cannot wait for this to get animated
>>154966290Sex? We are shipping here sir.
>>154965599>kids that grew up with BND watching spidey cartoons and wondering when Jean is going to appear
Do you think they'll make Sadie kiss a 60 year old Hugh Jackman? She's used to directors forcing her to kiss people she rather wouldn't
>>154966299Kinda like colossus in the deapool movies? He was my favorite for that reason. But I think they really cuted it up in a way that can't be repeated all the time. Like when hes threw up after wade killed that guy it was just so funny. Compare that to 'language' from whedons captin america. I just don't think most marvel writers can do it.
>>154966290She can possess and operate any body.
>>154966338Don't they have multiverse wolvies now?
Don’t click, this is some taboo knowledge
>>154966298Thank you! I know some anon made edits for each scene and memes with the anonymous characters but for the life of me I can't find them. I had some stored in my computer but wiped it a while ago and didn't back them up.>>154966290Yes, but for Peter. Also what's up with rich people and tennis? What is so entertaining about throwing a little ball around with a paddle?>>154966303Is it certain that they'll do the whole story? I desperately want that>>154966338kek his time is done. Same with cyclops, that's why they made him gay.
>>154966402Tennis is a 1v1 sport, no collision but has a lot of similarities to dueling and fighting in terms of risk reward or mind games.
Hey remember when xmen movies sucked? Thats about when I stopped watching them. Should I try the new ones?
>>154966510No, they suck too. They should scrap the mutant stuff and have Jean be a recurring Spider-man character and love interestAlso now mutants are a stand in for black lives matter in the MCU so even worse slop
>>154966290If you like "Zendaya" more than this you're brown
>>154966510The ones set in the past have some good moments (though they did completely botch Darwin).
>>154965583It's never too late for Black cat. More likely than ever if they go symbiote route in Secret Wars because Marvel likes to pair black and black.
>>154962778They ran away from MJ's endearing traits and ambitions, so they have given Zendaya basically nothing to work with. I can't give her a fair assessment as an MJ because she's Diet Daria.
>>154966290Yes. Jean deserved uglier if anything.
>>154966530actually makes way more sense why they put jean in this movie. im sure wolverine will show up sometime too as he and spidey are the two most popular characters
>>154966641>love quadrangle for movie 5 pretty sure there'll be love fatigue at that point they need to go back to punching and kicking
>>154966697This is what I’m talking about. I don’t want more polyshit or triangle misunderstanding. It’s played out and boring
>>154966747There wont be quadrangle, nor a triangle. MJ shut down Peter and Jean will hook up with Scott.
>>154966766>Peter aloneSpider bros...
>>154966697holy FUCK sauce????
I hated the idea of Peter dating other supers until BND
>>154966798it's based on a manga panelhttps://x.com/chloroveel/status/2086374886079902014
>>154966785What are you talking about, the ENDING to brand new day is him no longer wanting to be alone https://youtu.be/RbKuWJQ3xBg?is=8MkGfpmC4pYAN0XL
>all you have to do to make a pairing hit is to give it build up, you know the bare minimumthey couldn't do this for michelle jones in three fucking movies, lmao she deserves to get usurped by mary JEAN
honestly hope they keep wearing a jacket on jean's design in future movies. seeing this jean in a generic MCU superhero outfit would ruin her a little for me ngl
Man I'd love to have access to the focus group data
>>154966848PORTUGAAAAALLLL WHY ARE THEY BASED???
>>154966766But theres still black cat
>>154966888they should go for this because also turtleneck sexo
>>154966888bro this 100% street rat jean is peak design, also keep the hair style bangs look good on her, fuck comic accuracy atp shes so far removed from her comic counterpart anyways
Koreans understand Peter Parker than westerner
>>154966882well the first movie was a fakeout
>>154966888>>154966923You didn't see her ugly hippie pants
>>154966912That's what I'm saying? They can do Black Cat without a love triangle.
What I'm getting from this thread is that everything is better as anime.
Spider-Man and Jean are more based on their Ultimate counterpart
>>154966964Give her blue jeans then.
>>154966964This won't do, take them off.
>>154966984The east has problems, but fuck if they don't have the same hangups about plain appealing romance like a big hollywood studio. Actual space aliens.
>>154966964Middle is the cutest one
I love love
>>154966984>we finally get a spider man anime>its an adaptation of brand new day
>>154966989ultimate jean's goth phase was hot
>>154966964thrift store chic is a thing
don't want scott don't want mjdon't want x men don't want anything that separates peter and jean
Women
>>154966697When I started my Jean/Spidey folder last week, I was expecting to save like twelve pictures tops, but lo and behold, it keeps growing.
>>154967052
She feels like she'd be right at home in Chronicle>>154966697>taking off Jean's only boots she's had for YEARS without washingIMAGINE the smell!
>>154967075You are literally me
is the "well meaning veteran hero x troubled girl" trope just guaranteed to succeed?
>>154967127It has mass appeal to the human spirit.One of things the protagonist with a thousand faces usually has alongside.
If MJ didn’t send Frank to snipe to Jean, we would have had a web thwip carrying scene, but instead we got something more intimate between Jean and Peter in the hospital scene. Michelle Jones has no one to blame then herself
>>154967127They better not fuck up Invisimech in the next season.
>>154966888>honestly hope they keep wearing a jacket on jean's design in future movies. seeing this jean in a generic MCU superhero outfit would ruin her a little for me nglThis. I find the street rat look really cool. I DEMAND for the Xavier school to be blown up in the next X-Men movie and have Jean be a street level hero always on the verge of going back to villainy due to how easy it would be for her, but not doing it for Peter, never unlocking the full extent of her abilities until the Avengers movie after a long build up and exploring Peter's relationship and future marriage to Jean
Spider-Man needs to go on dates Jean Gray
Alright. So you get an animated series describing Peter and Jeandescribe it
>>154966964Why does she have spidey faces on them already?
>>154967211Basically this >>154965728Keep it street level and personal with Jean solving crimes using her telepathy and possession. Very little telekinesis, make it like a cop show with Jean investigating crimes and fighting the temptation to cross lines or break the law given how easy her power makes it.Give her a mentor or archenemy like Purple Man who wants to harness her as a weapon and trains her in using her telekinesis and mind control offensively.Could work as a TV series and help deepen Sadie's character.
https://x.com/abdul4180/status/2086322850781147620?s=46Imagine being Zendaya watching this red head openly flirt with your man. No wonder she glared at Tom at the Gala
>>154967052what a waist!
#1 villian for the next film?
>>154967246That body language is defensive as hell
>>154967186im sorry uncle ben if i see that on my bed i'm going deep diving into the X-Gene
https://x.com/mcufilmnews/status/2086474018589458831?s=46
I don't like this Jean, she taint the reputation of telepaths and keep feeding the stereotype of telepaths being psychopaths
>>154967338Charles tainted telepaths
>>154967330I call bullshit, but 2bi sounds believable.>>154967338Emma...
>>154967338bait used to be believable
>>154967312Not even the first time either. She was seething when he notice the natural chemistry between tom and sadie
>>154958958>The 5th Spider-man movie will not start production until the Naruto Movie is finishedPretty sure that movie is gonna suck.
>>154967338you can't taint the reputation of telepaths any further
how the fuck is it even possible to make a live action naruto film when none of the first part of naruto actually fits into a three act structure?
>>154967330does anyone got the box office breakdown? which international country is the highest (other than cn)
>>154967388
>>154967338Sorry for breaking this news but...
>>154966401this creature doesnt look like Sadie
>>154967443Tom's home country of ingerlandhttps://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt22084616/?ref_=bo_gr_tihttps://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Spider-Man-Brand-New-Day-(2026)#international
>>154967663They look like they would date in high school.
>>154967663WTF does that mean?
>>154967211>It's a more street-level show, so In the first episode, Peter gets ambushed by the Sinister Six or something to that effect, forcing Jean to really push her powers close to their limits to save Peter>This results in Jean being effectively "depowered" for a while, minus a gimped but still ultimately powerful version of her telepathy>She serves as Peter's "woman in the chair" for the first half of the show, using her telepathy to track down whatever person/mcguffin Peter needs>This results in Peter and Jean slowly becoming closer to each other, with Jean going from embittered that she lost most of her powers albeit temporarily to openly laughing and going along with Peter's shitty jokes>Frank is mostly doing his own thing, while also being around to fill in any information gaps that might be left from Jean's imperfect telepathy>Frank and Jean start off on icy grounds but they ultimately warm up to each other as the show progresses>Halfway through the series Jean's powers aren't back yet, but they're strong enough that she can go back on patrol>Spend most of the middle part of the show helping Peter fight his usual rogues' galery, with occasional cameos from other heroes and villains>The final "arc" involves Green Goblin trying to mind-rape Peter to turn him into his successor>It takes cues from the Revenge of the Green Goblin story from the comics>Peter is even hypnotized into wearing the Goblin suit and causing havoc once or twice, and it's up to Jean and Frank to stop him>Series ends with Peter and Jean having Norman on the ropes, with Jean being ready to not only kill Norman but make it as painful as possible for him but she can sense Peter's complete aversion to that and after reading him a little deeper one last time, she finally understands Peter's "great responsibility" mantra and ultimately doesn't kill Norman>Final episode is just another day in the life, only it ends with the two of them finally confessing to each other
>>154967694They're meant to be ~20 and ~18 in the movie, but they're played by 30 year old Tom and 24 year old Sadie, those images are of Tom and Sadie at 20 and 18
>>154967692I miss Betty. She was funny.
>>154967338she did it for love
>>154967725I watch it
>>154967388O.O what happens if she steals him in real life too?
>>154967429Surely they don't hope to adapt it bit by bit right?
>>154964798Wasn't Vanessa an underaged prostitute when Wade dated her in the comics. I assume being a reference to Slade and Terra.
>>154967515He knows she been blacked so I'm sure shes safe.
>>154951260>there's a subreddit nowGoddamn this thing is going to last awhile isn't it
>>154966964Fuck it, we had three Spider-men in one movie, We can have three Jeans.
>>154967797yes but movie deadpool is a pro-hero moralfag
>>154967831>6.5k members in a span of three daysThat is insanely fast, even for that site, this ship is literally too strong.
>>154967823hope this guy does porn of them soon
>>154967872How much do most ship subreddits get?
I actually want them to do something like spider man 2017 where the cartoon is inspired by an era of the mcu but is in its own continuity
>>154967972lol
Actually plan on archiving as much of these threads as possible since there are a ton of good ideas made by anons. Some of them are great for fics at the very least.
>>154967831I might have to make a reddit account
>>154966338Why wouldn’t she wanna kiss Hugh Jackman? He’ll still be getting bitches at 90.
>>154967812That's okay he's been blacked too. They can trauma bond about it
>>154967972Out of all the Stranger Things kids she's gonna have the most successful career going forward so it makes sense why she's not mourning the show.
Bitches love Spider-Man
>>154968068that pfp, K B C
>>154966697https://x.com/EwertonLeoncio/status/2086471630813848017
>>154967972>white dress = wedding>shows up in spider-man nexthmm...
>>154966697>>154968102pics of them cuddling fuels me so much...
>>154968001Good luck. You'll need an email and a phone number. Probably a street address at this point too.
>>154967081I'm a lazy fuck so I just save all Spiderman and Spiderman related pictures into my folder. But now I'm pretty sure the only girl in that folder that has more images than Jean at this point is Black Cat. I sure as hell don't have that many Jean pictures in my X-Men folder; Rogue and Emma always outshone her. But this Jean with this dynamic with Peter is gold.
>>154967725Finance it.
>>154967949Let's just say that even Mary Jane will need to watch her back with how fast SpiderPhoenix is growing
>>154968325I mean Peter/MJ has been going through hell since OMD.
>>154967972maybe she practices Shintoism
>>154968591lmao
>>154968102>Muramata-san no AijouCap would be proud.
>>154968591>expecting jean to take not every opportunity to take comfort in the arms of someone she loves
>>154968377>MJ gets upstaged constantly>OMD, her place taken by a Daria clone that doesn't look like her in the MCU, the games turn her into Lois Lane>Now another redhead is getting more associated with PeterWhat did Mary Jane deserve to experience this
>>154968670I'm just glad people finally turned on Lois Lane. She was a fucking horrible person in 1 too, but the psyops were strong back then.
>>154968670well the writers have made her very smug and unlikable so i don't really care
>>154968670Imagine if they kept exploring each others minds, Jean sees this and Peter sees all the abuse she and her sister took and how she had to survive. This shit was made in a lab to be the corniest sappiest shit ever and I love it
>>154951711>Peter is America's Nardo in being a self insert canvas of retarded virgin loser fantasy and pretend all women love them because they are stupid and clumsy morons who are powerful thus are owed sex.
Ain't Jean Grey fated to become the Phoenix and fucking die? Or is dead girlfriends just part of Spidey's kink
>>154955693Jean probably wasn't used to mind-controlling a spider. I imagine their brains are quite different from us humans.
>>154968722It's complicated.
>>154968811That's some Final Destination shit.
>>154968811Imagine all the times she could be killed by rough sex with peter and revived by the phoenix.
>>154968811does seem all that complicated. She fucking dies and then they bring her back.Peter should become the King in Black with Pheonix Jean as his Queen.
I think they should push it, and more importantly they should push mutants doing their own thing in the mcu. X-Men might actually mean something if it were more like the avengers where the mutants get together for specific things then disburse. Easily fixes the common problem of everyone hating mutants but loving every other superhero, and allows for more varied plots instead of (magneto is bad/apocalypse/sentinels-stryker-human hate mutant).put peter with MJ, maybe cyclops can date zendaya
>>154969017I just wish they would go slow and small for once with the X-men. Gradually build up the X-men as just trying to live normal lives, handling street level problems and stuff, hardly the biggest concern in this world, before gradually introducing concepts like whoops, Jean Grey is gonna kill us all.
>>154967312oh you people read tea leaves
I have never seen a good picture of Peter and Jean fucking.
The problem is that MJ, or at least this MJ, is a complete dead end of a character. Jean Grey has a whole future of plot points to look forward to while Ned and MJ just leech precious screentime off of Spider-Man.I don't know, will people get up in arms if Jean doesn't get with Cyclops or Wolverine? I'm not a shipper.
>>154969116good porn is gross
>>154969154Wolverine would be problematic with his age.Cyclops could get with Emma if they really wanted to do Jean and Peter.
>>154969154Ned has a future as a sorcerer. Would be gay af if they did this but mj is into bioengineering or mechatroics or something? They might just make her some tech hero.
>>154968811>keeping dying and coming back>… like a PhoenixBRAVO WRITERS
>>154969222I genuinely can't tell if you people are serious or trolling
>>154969231*keeps
>>154969241Hugh Jackman almost 60, they're not gonna pair him with a 20 year old in this climate.
Anchor post
>>154967338I agree my fellow telepath
>>154969222>>154969258But Jean is canonically 20 and hooks up with a 200 year old Wolverine, that's like their whole thing Even if they recast him he'll be implied to be 200
>>154966697>>154968102Now draw it the other way around
>>154969258What are they gonna do? BOYCOTT THE MOVIE??
>>154951260embrace it, it's a cute ship>>154951711m(ichelle) j(ones) is a boring character and her relationship with peter is even worse, jean is just a breath of fresh air
>>154967831It could potentially last as long as it takes for pre-release marketing for the next film to start coming out (when it's inevitably confirmed that Jean will not be in it) But, to be honest, you could also argue that this could just be a fad and it'll die out in a few monthsIs there really enough here to justify making content for the next few years?
>>154969154nobody gives a shit about Jean/Cyclops because it was never well developed in outside media. Even the famous 90s show botched it before killing Jean in the Phoenix SagaIn the end everyone expects Jean to die at some point so no real point on attaching to a ship with her.
>Would be kino rivals to lovers>Would be kino platonic love story>Edgy Jean was a fun villainWhen did crackshit become fun
>>154967972>mourning the end of Strange ThingsHOLY FUCKING CRINGE
>>154969578I guess you could say its a brand new day
>>154952633Raimiposting did some very dirty work at Spiderman discussion on the internet.
The Japanese credits being a love song is so diabolical they basically guaranteed an entire country ships Peter with a Jean Nobody in Japan gives a shit about Scott and they never cared about Jean until now
>>154970007They're care about scott once they find out hes a cuck. Japs love ntr.
>>154970382only ugly ass sarary men love NTR. The Japanese moving this ship are all women
>>154970424check shojo manga
>>154970007>Nobody in Japan gives a shit about ScottDidn't X-Men have it's own into there? https://youtu.be/2rSw4Xl5qfs
>>154970449I kinda don't understand why marvel doesn't just comission anime all the time. it only costs about 2 million dollars. Even if it flops its free advertising.
>>154970492Raising the bar is not in marvel's interest. I'm sure they regret the partnership with capcom to this day.
>>154970492I mean there was this shit, Pretty sure Blade also got an anime as well as a bunch of other characters in the 2010s.
>>154970492It's bothering me because Marvel commissioned DOZENS of MCU based cartoons including an anime and they're all based on phase 2An anime starring these two would sell so much
