>Spends literal decades trying to turn these 3 characters into the next big cartoon mascotsSeriously, what was he thinking?
>>154982402>Only reason Ren and Stimpy became a show was because of some Nick exec singling them out and him not wanting to give up the rights to Jimmy
>>154982402He got old and tired and realized animation is a poor man's job
>>154982402Some creators have a nonsensical attachment to certain characters. Adam Corolla was the same about Mr fucking Birchum.
>>154982402I think he should have drawn more cute & sexy girls. Jimmy The Idiot Boy & Sody Pop had better dynamics as characters than George Liquor. Nobody liked George Liquor. Also bugs me how he never completely He-Hog The Atomic Pig, which should have been all about Ms Fussmucker.
Well he suceeded with George Licker, at least..
>>154982508Did he really?
>>154982488Jimmy The Idiot Boy should have been actually hot, no one wants to degen jew sex comedy plots but now animated.
>>154982522Obsessed
>>154982402>>154982449What's more pathetic, clinging on to one character or show for 20 years or spending 20 years lazily shitting out show concept after show concept ala Kyle Carozza?
>>154982522>Not liking ugly bastard filmsI unironically jerked off to Zach and Miri for this purpose
>>154982402>Another John K thread. >Obvious Guy Bait thread.
>>154982550Kyle came up with like 200 pitch ideas that had basically zero premise. they were all basically just "two weird characters with no established dynamic do weird things", basically all just variations of ren and stimpy. funny because kyle constantly mocked john k despite nearly wholesale ripping him off. I wonder if he ever tried to pitch frog raccoon strawberry as a show.
>>154982573Cleveland Show has a lot of good reaction images
>>154982591It's an underrated show ruined by its writing in the later seasons. Honestly wish they gave it another go instead of doing a Stewie spinoff.
>>154982516Considering how they're still animating him to this day...https://youtu.be/mX7e9kAMHs8?si=2GwCH-Px1AeFMe9p
>>154982402This is not correct.From 2006-2011 he ran a highly popular blog which taught thousands of artists how to draw cartoons and make art in general.John had a variety of characters but focused on acting, humor, storytelling, etc over the “magic idea” people thought TMNT and others were. That’s one of the things he taught.
>>154982573Yes, Anon. People only bring up one of the most well known and controversial figures in the animation industry just to get a rise out of one single schizo.
>>154982650Why do you love John so much?Have you ever met or talked to him?
>>154982643That's an Owen Fishback animation, he makes excellent work.
>>154982402TBF underground comix descended grossout goonslop was fairly popular(or at least being pushed by networks)
>>154982669And yet here he is. >>154982650Also John didn't revolutionize shit, that'd be like saying the 90s Baby Huey cartoon revived Paramount. Takes a team Anon.
>>154982534Neither the Nazis nor the Soviets ever depicted these bugmen freaks in any sort of positive light except of what not to be.>>154982567bugman
>>154982701>90s Baby Huey cartoonIronically enough, that was worked on by the very same people who worked on R&S. (At least the first season anyway, the second one might as well be a completely different show.)
>>154982670He interacted with me a couple times on his blog. His buddy Mike F claimed I deserved a million dollars.I regard him the same as Plato or Pascal, someone who has made a vital contribution to the direction of humanity that should be preserved.>>154982701Keep your gay crap to yourself.
>>154982748>call yourself Lovecraft’s cat>Idolize a man that Lovecraft would have hated
>>154982803Claiming that one of your heroes would hate you is a gay foreplay method apparently.
>>154982402His weird obsession with George Liquor doesn't seem healthy
>>154982402I despise Jimmy. What an awful unlikable character who is such a blatantly bad character to try and shill as the next Mickey Mouse or Spongebob. His design is repulsive and he has no personality, he's a literal nonverbal retard. George is funny however. It just wasn't going to work out, Johns content outside of R&S is just not good enough. It's just too cartoony, nonsensical and strange. Which is ironic because I like all those things in a cartoon. His stuff makes for a decent stand alone short or a music video but an entire series of any of Johns ideas just sounds like a trainwreck
>>154982722Didn't the second one have Games people working on it? >>154982748>He interacted with me a couple times on his blog. Proof or it's bullshit.
>>154982885It's a caricature of his father
>>154982892>Didn't the second one have Games people working on it?Not to my knowledge, its second season was produced by Tom Klein and Victoria Jenson.
I don't know
>>154984336Dummy
>>154984345eat a dick guy
>>154982643>spumtard>incapable of real animation, just traces model sheetslike clockwork
>>154985562Go listen to all the gay animation artists whine and cry about being unemployed
I looked up john k the other day since I figured he had either died of heart failure last june, or wiped his internet presence, and...>making fun of a girl who got regularly abused as a minor by nickelodeon executives He never learned his lesson, huh?
>>154985993Bruh what straight male is anywhere close to caring about celebrity gossip enough to know what you’re talking aboutThe gay is increasing
>>154986005Would you have sex with John K if he asked you to?
>>154986025Are you a little bitch boy lashing out because I epically own women in animation in John k threadsAin’t my fault they’re too busy choking on ceo and woke dick to be remotely appealing. All on them
>>154985993Everybody is making fun of how ghastly Grande looks lately though And was she actually abused by Nick execs? I wouldn't be surprised if she was but I don't recall her saying anything about it
>>154982402He was a one hit wonder hack.
>>154986057rather long "yes" message
>>154984345>>154985972>>154982831>>154982748>>154982650There's /our/ favorite schizo
*sloppy tuba fart*
>>154982650The reason no other animator was "running a blog" was that they were busy actually animating.
>>154982716You are that
>>154986657being a little disingenuous, anon. either that or you're just youngpretty much everyone, industry guys and small newgrounds types alike, had blogspots used for posting art/getting art critique
>>154986005Unc's trying to be hip by saying "bruh" X_X
>>154986742Possibly, but they didn't spend as much time talking about animation as they did actual animating.It's easy to write long self-congratulating essays on the internet when you're not working. Meanwhile Harpy Gee has been on a huge hiatus because Briane Drouhard is actually working in animation.Blogs are less important than bodies of work. What has John K actually made? A few episodes of some overrated cartoon, one or two music videos, a Simpsons couch gag and a mediocre animated short that took him years to make? Big whoop.He talks big game but isn't actually making anything of note.
>>154982650Wh- wha- what- WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG??!!
>>154982402The only glazer these lame characters ever had was tvskyle, yes the same guy who years later created Mighty Pedoswords and later got jailed for hoarding snuff CP lmao
John K sucks.
>>154987534If all you thought of his blog was that it was “self-congratulation” you successfully cheated yourself out of future-creating advice.>>154986657This attitude leads to the death of the industry through anti-intellectualism and vanity.>>154986148Stories lil bro, are ya gonna read them
>>154988268And what kind of future has this brilliant advice created for you? Arguing with anons on 4chan? Hardly a career.John Kissphallussi has ruined your life. Time to move on.
>>154988405Stories, characters, styles, game design that you refuse to look at.Since I was born into poverty to a single mom and had uniquely dreadful challenges not having my own streaming service doesn’t trouble me. If I was the Nike guy things would be different.
>>154982402so george was his dad as a tiny little energetic mascot. its interesting that he turned his object of worship/fear into a pomeranianjimmy was the mentally handicapped boy he and his friends would sexually abuse as kids. he must have wanted go keep the rights to him out of...guilt? but probably possessivenesswho was sody, i know he stole the name from clampetts wife but its not like they were buddies. she was just a cardboard cutout like the rest of his women?
>>154988574I forget where I heard this story, might have been from a Vincent Waller interview or something, but didn't he and his friends attach a jumper cable & battery to some downie's dick and shock him with it? Absolutely fucked story but also kinda funny sounding I can't even lie
>>154988574Worth noting Sody's design is ripped off almost wholesale from So White from Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs.
>>154988416>I was born into poverty to a single momYou don't deserve anything else, son of a literal whore.
>>154982449And Zeurel with those retarded monkey wrench characters that he made up in high school and refuses to change/improve.
>>154988751Enjoy going to hell when you die and associating with corporate cocksleeves before you do, never able to invent the slightest idea of your own.>>154989394Most millennials did the Calarts style and never changed or improved it besides becoming more insufferable faggots about it until they gratefully lost their jobs.>>154988574This is all really gay.>>154988637That’s a metaphor for what his haters think he did to them.
Anthony, the best contribuition you could give to society would be killing yourself. Do this. For John.
>>154988643That’s not what those words mean you homo, Sody is white and Coal Black is black. She’s also based on Bob’s wife.
>>154989853I’ll just keep raping the animation field instead to build a legacy for myself. Without the slightest concern for the insufferable faggots who work in it.
>>154988416>Stories, characters, styles, game designSo nothing.You sound like a lazier Kyle Carozza.
>>154987534>self-congratulating essaysHis blogspot consisted primarily of dissecting his favorite classic cartoon shorts frame-by-frame>What has John K actually madeNetwork idents, toys, video games, helped with the development of Flash. He did the Ripping Friends and the revival of R&S, along with WPH and TGGLPPoint is, his body of work is vast. He's done a lot more than most animators. He never really stopped, even after the cancellation.
>>154988574>jimmy was the mentally handicapped boy he and his friends would sexually abuse as kidslolwut. I thought he was meant to represent cartoon PAs or network execs or whatever the fuckI think eventually he replaced him with a character called "bobby bigloaf"
>>154982402>what was he thinkinghe was thinking about barely legal pussy at home and photos and videos of actually illegal pussy he had lying around
>>154988268>Stories lil bro, are ya gonna read themNothing you write, that's for sure.
>>154990088You care about nothing but clout and money but why should anybody care about you?>>154990428Then you’ll be humiliated when normies start loving them, and your entire family line will know forever that you chose to make yourself an enemy of my brand. On God
>>154990338John isn’t a fan of older women in animation because they choose to mold themselves to industry cock and yet expect to be desirable after.You’re essentially going out with a man when you go out with them. That’s why the Millennial ones love gay fanfic, it’s a metaphor for making you compatible with their boss as their first priority.
>>154988574Retard x Porn Star love interest would have been whole if it wasn't treated as cruel and sexually abusive.
>>154988637Waller is a sick fuck, and pretty much the reason why apc didn't stick the landing. He was the guy who came up with that disgusting ass first episode
>>154990475No, I care about finished products.Ideas are so cheap they're worthless.Also what's with calling everyone gay? Are you simply outdated or insecure about your own sexuality?
>>154990723There’s stories and art and character designs and profiles, that’s more than “ideas”.If you’re expecting a running production where you can come in and get a job, why would I want to hire you? Consider Jesus who said “even someone who gives a cup of water will get their reward.” Why expect anything if you won’t do so much as acknowledge what anything I’m working on is? You should stay with the competition.
>>154985993>or wiped his internet presencewait, even his blog?
>>154982402Why the hell are there so many John K. threads on /co/? I mean, what the fuck? Is it just one obsessed guy or what? It makes no sense.
>>154992186>Is it just one obsessed guy>guy
i love spumslop and i love john k
I think it’s funny people won’t read my stories or look at my characters considering the Spumco clan was mocked for being bad at writing and coming up with characters.>>154992275holy based
>>154992142Posts have beginnings and endings, yknow
>>154992275by "spumslop" do you mean modern spongebob and the artistic output of troglodytes who draw themselves like george liquor on twitter, or john k cartoons?
>>154982402His entire artstyle and sense of humor are highly satanic. I wasn't surprised when he was exposed as a groomer.
John’s principles help me design highly unique robots which will be very relevant as we enter a time of robots becoming real. Indeed there’s a possibility robot companies will seek out my unique designs! I seek to make them functional, even if it requires crazy things like constant battle moves to keep balance.>>154993346John was the polar opposite of worshipping Mammon to a degree that made almost everybody uncomfortable. His most saintly character.
>>154994062>John’s principles help me design highly unique robots which will be very relevant as we enter a time of robots becoming real. Indeed there’s a possibility robot companies will seek out my unique designs! I seek to make them functional, even if it requires crazy things like constant battle moves to keep balance.>"So what if I like John K you guys are mean to me hmph!"
>>154992700just anything made by john k in his style. i love it!!!
>>154994062That looks like shit dude
>>154994801>"Hmph! You just don't understandmy art, I take deep inspiration from the cosmos, baka..... Don't make me send more emails again HMPH!"
>>154994866
>>154982972pretty much all of his weird bullshit is explained once you understand just how much his dad fucked him up as a kid
>>154990143>helped with the development of Flash.Insane how Tom Fulp stole all the credit.
>>154994062Hey can I feed your art into my AI?
>>154982402>Seriously, what was he thinking?"If I can get another job making cartoons, I can start attracting young girls to my studio by offering them free stuff and tours and promises of careers in the animation industry!"
>>154982701Guy is a faggot but acting as if Ren & Stimpy wasn’t highly influential is disingenuous, almost every notable 90’s cartoonist had design sensibilities taken from Spumco.
>>154993346Stfu
>>154996418Hillenburg worked on Rocko
>>154996470And Mr. Lawrence worked on R&S, so there's equilibrium.
>>154982402Soap Girl and Joannie should've been added as Spumco's mascots
>>154995730Credit for what? He's a game dev, not an animator
>>154992275>I love ren and stimpy>I hate spumslop>I am indifferent with john k>Guy and spumtards are fags
>>154996470Rocko was post-r&s, so what point are you making fucknuts
>>154996609That’s true and based
>>154996616Rocko was made during R&S's run
>>154996609Based Hayley poster
Why is it when it comes to influential animation figures, it's always John K and never Clampett or even Bakshi?Yeah, I know it's a thread about John but we never talk about what influenced him
>>154996563what are they pointing at?
>>154996675John was cancelled which makes him a martyrAlso recency, nobody here was around for Bakshi or Clampett's prime years
george liquor is pretty recognizable. I think most people would be familiar with him
>>154996678A new renaissance in animation
>>154996690Is this a joke, anon?
I never watched Ren and Stimpy growing up despite being in my 30s so I never got the appeal. Honestly the style is off-putting imo.
>>154996731Didn't John try to sue Matt and Trey because he thought they stole the idea for Mr Hankey?
>>154996690
>>154996690>Least delusional Spumtard
>>154982402what's these John K/Spumco/guy-bait threads popping up everyday?
>>154996690To whom? Poorfags know less about George Liquor and more of the trendy popular characters like SpongeBob, Spiderman, Batman, Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, Scooby-Doo, Garfield, Mario, Sonic, Goku, Pikachu, Ninja Turtles, Shrek, Homer Simpson, and Peter Griffin, among several others. Those are characters that are way too iconic for people to remember as they're more recognizable. Even the shittiest, most lowest common denominator of fictional characters like the fucking Minions are still remembered than George Liquor (inb4 some retard replies to me by calling me industrycuck or Famicom or some stupid shit btw). Nobody remembers George Liquor except for Spumtards like you, as well as diehard Ren & Stimpy fans or people like Guy.
>>154996470>>154996633If we’re being real here, SpongeBob was derived from both Ren & Stimpy AND Rocko, it has a distinctive artstyle but you can see the visual similarities it has to R&S, like the way fish are drawn.There was also more Spumco alumni working on golden age SpongeBob than Rockos modern life crew, namely guys like Vincent Waller, Doug Lawrence, Erik Wiese, Aaron Springer, etc.
I don’t understand how someone who knows the inner workings of golden age age animation could fail to understand the most important aspect: Appeal.
>>154996996Don't forget, Rocko had future Phineas & Ferb creators Dan Povenmire and Swampy Marsh, and the former worked on SpongeBob as well. Both also worked on Hey Arnold and Angry Beavers, while both would pop in to Fox time-to-time, as Povenmire would work on Family Guy, and Marsh would work on King of the Hill. Otherwise, Povenmire spent a lot more time on both SpongeBob and Family Guy during the early-to-mid-2000s. This would explain why the duo were trying to pitch Phineas and Ferb for Nick and Fox Kids, but the two denied, as Disney would greenlit the show and would make that a huge success. I just wanted to point that out.
>>154996998>Half-Life
>>154988257based
>>154982643>john k fanboy>worked for pencilmationit's always pencilmation
>>154982550I mean at least sometimes the former results in your dedication being rewarded, like Phineas and Ferb. They pitched that shit for 20 years and changed almost nothing.
>>15499722515 years actually
>>154997180I would assume there’s a rough job market for cartoony animators to be animating for literal slop channels, it’s interesting cause that channel has had some genuine talents like Harvey Rothman working on it.More interestingly is that Sven Stoffels, the guy who makes those Americaman Comics and that "get a job nigger" meme, has animated for Pencilmation.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uulMHrHsnI8&ra=m
>>154997067SpongeBob has a whole family tree of its own.
>>154997321oh yeah he made the completely AI americaman game that's going around xitter lately
>>154997424I mean it was AI assisted, but still lazy as shit and looks like shit.I don’t understand why so many right wing artists cuck so hard for AI, Emily Youcis made some great looking shit in the past and now she makes Family Guy-looking AI slop, guess they do so cause it "owns the libs" or something. Sven’s Spumco-inspired artstyle is also like the worst style for AI to replicate because the Spumco style requires exaggerated subtlety and creative expressions and acting, something that can only be done with a human touch.
>>154997525>ai assisteddid you watch the same trailer i did>cause it "owns the libs" or something.does it really though? it's a worse product at the end of the day
>>154997336Yep
>>154996633*After ren and stimpy's inception and popularity
>>154996998Would you a Roxy?
>>154997996True, but even so, Games worked on both shows. Albeit, Games worked on R&S by the time John was exiled from Nick for good following his toxic behavior, as well as the Man's Best Friend incident, while Rocko was the full-fledged production for its entire run
>>154996418>any cartoon with any kind of style was actually trying as hard as possible to be Ren & Stimpy>especially the ones that were made decades after it lost relevance!
>>154996675Unironically because John K spent his entire industry exile blogging about how he was the most important animator to ever live and how he was responsible for all the stuff that he was copying from Clampett and learned while working under Bakshi.
>>154998299People can just watch Ren and Stimpy and Looney Tunes and clearly tell there are differences dude.When you talk about your other influences John’s critics just ignore it since they want to believe his fans just parrot him and seek confirmatory evidence.>>154994801How many times do I need to cite the “plank in your eye” verse? It’s gross to have abstract shit in your eyes dude.
>>154996998>Nose-HatOH MY GOD! what was he thinking!?>Roxy>The Heartaches>The Boys>DJ EricThe most normal designs he has done, but no way i could expect it to ever be picked on as a series, specially knowing that Jhon K was a piece of shit in many ways.
>>154998666Shut the fuck up, cocksucker
>>154989394The og characters had more charm
>>154999005I don't think he should. But then again you idiots crave his attention.
>>154996922I will also add that more people know the Horse and Powdered Toast Man than they do George Liquor if you are talking R&S supporting cast members.That said, John's only real hope to have successful followed up on R&S would have been had he gone all in on the sexy lady angle and produced hentai tier cartoons.
>>154999396Put your gay name back on, Guy.
>>154995075Not familiar with the lore. Details???
>>154999428There is that good enough for you retard? I don't even really like the guy, but you're being way more annoying about it.I'm just waiting to when he replies to you so you get your retarded 15 second dopamine rush before you return to reality and remember how much of a hanky panky retard you are.
>>154999441The TLDR John's dad was a complete sociopath. A overgrown he man bully boy chad type who never outgrew high school where he was king of the school.To his dad, John was a huge failure, a sissy who wanted to draw funny animals and be a cartoon maker, which led to his dad forever calling his son a faggot to his face and to anyone in earshot. And at the same time, John's dad was a controlling abusive dad/husband who resented his son's very existence and put John through the double hell of calling his a faggot and forcing him to do manly shit instead while making damn sure he failed everything manly he was forced to do because while he hated having a sissy for a son, John's dad openly feared the idea of John surpassing him in any shape or form, since his dad ALEAYS had to be the Alpha male.As such, John inherited his dad's toxic masculinity and then some while having an eternal hatred of being bossed around and the need to be able to out do his dad in the big balled chad department
>>154982402George Liquor is a genuinely great character. The comics with Jimmy the Idiot Boy were pretty good too, especially "Jimmy The Turtle Food Collector". Sody Pop was just there for John to jerk off too. You ever notice that she looks like the kid John molested, Robyn Byrd? He probably had a type.
>>154999493His dad really wasn't all that abnormal. No father of that era would be happy about their son being an "artist" and worst of all a "cartoonist." That's what makes John's complex so funny. He acts like it was so special in his case.
>>154982449Mr. Birchum and George Liquor are actually similar characters. Both come from comedians making fun of masculine conservative authority figures from their youth.
>>154994062>polar opposite of worshiping Mammonyeah, as an Asmodeus follower being a sex pest would make way to much sense.(pic semi related- Viv has a lot of Johns bad traits herself)
>>154999463You're mad as fuck for a really stupid reason, fag.
>>154999493Given the way John turned out, I think his dad, as retarded and misguided as he was, had a point that there was something severely wrong with John and he needed to be set straight. Unfortunately, John's Dad was not the man with the right mindset or knowhow to do it, and John grew up to be a severely maladjusted child groomer and professional fucking retard.
>>154982402Even with all the baggage John K has, there's no denying that shit happens. Sometimes, things don't go as planned when a showrunner pushes one particular project. Just look at Faust and her Galaxy Girls series.>>154997336>The further down that SpongeBob family tree goes, the shittier the art style got for most of those showsPic related
>>154999578Not really lol. But you're responding to me thus wasting your time. And that's satisfying enough for me.
>>154988416You're a high school dropout. In an education system where schools are obligated to push students through entirety of K12 regardless of how bad their grades and attendancy records are.
>>154985993Everyone is laughing at Ariana.And you should too laugh at famous , they spent 10 years talking about you can has "different body type" but the last years they went back at the dangerous slim way
>>154996998>Two dogs Truly an overflowing wellspring of creativity, that John.
>>154996688You'd have to be around 40 to have been around for John's prime.
>>154999526NGL, as someone who couldn't get into Ren & Stimpy or watched George Liquor, I do appreciate the his girl characters' designs.
>>155000269>*NGL, as someone who couldn't get into Ren & Stimpy and never watched that George Liquor series, I do appreciate his girl characters.Here's another example, although I meant to find that one screenshot with those three Catholic schoolgirls. You certainly can't fault him for being a coomer artist, especially given what happened in the west since the 2010's.
>>155000366I don't have pics for it, but there is a good one from a He-Hog short, introduced as his patient during psychotherapy sessions. He-hog goes on to make her admit she hates her own father, then proceeds to straighten out her wedgie.
>>154990546>APC Is that the one where Stimpy is a cock-starved bottom, wanting nothing more than for Ren to plow his ass during their stay inside a spitton?
>>155000102>Attendancy. ESL spotted
>>154991531Why would anyone work for you if you don't work yourself?You're confusing a hobby with a career.Even Kyle the Pedophile produced at least ONE cartoon and more than one pilot. What did you make?
>>154994062That robot makes Lancer mecha look good.
>>1549824492011 pilot of Mr Birchum looked promising. Had decent animation, with actual funny jokes.
>>155000761Gee, no wonder guy thinks his shitty scribbles are a reflection of John K's influence.
I don't even dislike John's workI just find spumco fans incredibly annoying
>>154998295Nigga, all those artstyles took after Spumco in some way, Danny Antonucci and John Dilworth both adapted Spumcos style of "cuteness", grossout, and expressiveness. Hillenburg was a huge R&S fan and both the Rocko and Ren & Stimpy DNA is visible in his show. Genndy Tartakovsky was also a big R&S fan and adapted their style of construction and cuteness. Jhonen Vasquez’s work was very expressive in the 90s and leaned heavily into dark humor and grossout. Maxwell Atoms R&S influence is obvious. Doug TenNapel has cited John K. as a huge inspiration to him multiple times, etc.
>>154996563It’s funny how this could be interpreted as modern social media influencer girls today. Just put a phone in the one’s hand. I limit my kids to very little time on their tablets but I was helping a friend of my daughter’s parents paint a few rooms in their house. Holy shit we’re fucked for the future! They don’t limit their kids online time at all. Their daughter was talking to herself in her room while emptying her closet like she was broadcasting a show. Then while I was trying to paint the hallway talking like it was a fashionable thing to match outfits of hers and explaining it like on a tv show
>>155000936>fans Are there really more spumtards out there than our "guy" here?
>>155000936They reek of insecurity due to how controversial John is
>>155001232Yeah. Me.
>>155001186>Jhonen Vasquez’s work was very expressive in the 90sInvader zim was a 2000s show, retard. It came out in 2001
>>155001192You could say for something made in 2003, they were ahead of its time
>>154996998I wonder if he doodled these on his bed laughing himself to sleep. I wouldn't mind seeing an anthology kind of cartoon with these but even then he would take 57 years to make a couple episodes lol
>>154996998Weren't some of those supposed to be in the same show? Also, my favorites are Crapface and Raplh, the former for its design.
>>155001232I remember scrolling past some 16 year old Clampettfag advertising a Spumco fan groupchat on Xitter a couple of weeks ago and thinking 'man, how long until somebody gets groomed in there'.>>155001711Culturally, the 90s continued until at least 9/11. Every decade has a year or two of cultural bleedover into the next before it develops its own identity.
>>155001711I’m talking about his comics he made in the 90’s you dumbfuck like Squee and JTHM, I mention those specifically cause they’re far more expressive and "ugly" than Invader Zim was. His style was basically a cool mixture of influence from Spumco, Tim Burton, and street art.
>>154982402wait I remember George and Jimmy but who is girl?>>154982449for as run into the ground as Justin Roiland's schtick is, he at least recycled his premises with enough evolution to not feel like he was dying on the hill of Doc and Mharty
>>155001186>it's spumco style because it just ISYou're fucking retarded man.
>>155001232Do you actually know anything about animation ? You just here for porn or something >>155001903You have that attitude about Spumco communities - who prize nonsexual funny and cartoony drawings - but not all the cartoon communities that openly talk about teaching new teen participants about sexuality and gender >>155000679Lost cause energy.I don’t want to make a cartoon because it would just feed people like you fresh meat and I would receive nothing.You people just go around in circles with the same wrong statements and at best you say something nasty when you hear the truth.>>155000685LLM bots far more resemble humans than you do and unlike you they can form art opinions.
>>155002295Where in those 2 comments was it said “they’re all Spumco style”You’re arguing with hallucinations John encouraged people not to try to draw “Spumco style” and in fact said it was fake.
>>154982402These characters are so fucking boring. Literally appeals to no one but John himself. At least Ren and Stimpy had fun personalities and interesting dynamics in the show.
>>155002338ok vivzie
>>155000144>you can hasUnbelievable! Lolcats are now posting on /co/!
>>155001903>Culturally, the 90s continued until at least 9/11. Every decade has a year or two of cultural bleedover into the next before it develops its own identity.I still think the 90s and 2000s were both great decades>>155002064My bad. I'm very tired
>>154999768>the shittier the art style got for most of those showshey, don't shit on the likes of Camp Lazlo, Chowder, Flapjack or Phineas and Ferb. They were kino as fuck
>>155002646>Lolcats are now posting on /co/!Nah, lolcats have been around 4chan since the mid-2000s. Hell, even before 4chan's inception, like in 2002.
>>155001800Freddy Got Fingered is such a masterpiece
>>155003044Not because of the art style and drawing competency, but rather because you grew up with them, social experiences, career benefits (working with fellow fans etc) and for similar reasons.
>>155000102Yes since I received 0 support for my creativity. People would always talk about me reading books, yet completely leave out anything about the individual books, or their characters and stories and meaning and values. And they left out all the other art mediums I enjoyed.That’s why I was inspired to seek making the world a better more creative place in association with John’s blog as a teen, shocking a lot of artists in the industry that I had no concern for getting an industry job.
>>154982402He didn't have people to abuse
>>155003128Fair enough
>>155003773not even that girl that would soon grow up to draw sexy women for him, which would explain why she got hired in the industry. Like hell no
>>155003044What makes you think I was shitting on those particular shows you mentioned? When I clearly said the following, it was directed at most of the 2010's and 2020's shows. >the shittier the art style got for most of those showsAlso, all four of those shows you mentioned were produced BEFORE 2010 and that cringe beanmouth era. Also, P&F and Chowder were that far down from that family compared to the crappier shows further.
>>155004062*weren't that far down
>>155004062>>155004076Sorry. I misunderstood
>>154996563>>155000269>>155000366>>155004035Even if I'm not the biggest fan of RnS, Spumco, nor John K's works, the women are so beautifully drawn. Dare I say, they are the best looking cartoon women ever.
>>155004062>Also, P&F and Chowder were that far down from that family compared to the crappier shows further.Forgive me for the miscommunication, but weren't Billy & Mandy, Camp Lazlo, Flapjack, The Mighty B!, Phineas & Ferb, and Chowder just aping the success of Spongebob, which explained the similar humor and art-style?
>>155001821I won’t lie, the duck characters are appealing to me, John is great with funny animals.
>>154996563>>155004035We could've gotten more of Soap Girl and Joannie, had APC wasn't canned too soon. Only this time, we could've gotten another episode of APC (or at least a segment) of Soap Girl rawdogging Joannie
>>155004453Is that Donald Bastard?
>>154996563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py5T7h0sUPY
>>155004373Not Phineas & Pherb.
>>155004373Not Chowdah
>>155001903>9/11 killed everything Look look, I am not denying it was a bad thing that happened, but why people act like it was the beginning of the end, when 2008 happend and then. 2012 and 2016 and then 2020.
>>155004373>more like the Mighty PP
>>155004807>when 2008 happend and then. 2012 and 2016 and then 2020.you forgot 2011. Remember May 21, 2011 when Harold Camping said the world did end? Also the world also ended in 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2021. You literally forgot those years
>>155004767>>155004802>>155004815I wasn't talking to you guys
>>155000728it would've worked better in an alternate reality airing as an Adult Swim show from 2012-15 instead.
>>155004815Are you running out of humor, Mung Daal?
>>154982426>Only reason Ren and Stimpy became a show was because of some Nick exec singling them out and him not wanting to give up the rights to JimmyYou forgot>both models came out of conversations with friends while drinking at parties. The product of riffing and it is unclear if he actually came up with them>half of Ren is just John
>>154999535Stan Smith and Hank Hill were also fictional satires of classical manly middle-class conservative authority figures of both 90s and 2000s. As such, both are much funnier and more memorable than George Liquor nor Mr. Birchum.
>>154982426>>155005020Keep your tranny identity death fetish to yourselves.
>>155000761That's Raketeena, the mascot for Raketu, in case anyone is wonderinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB1hWQmp4A4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkV0Awobr4ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg6jAPeOkeI
>>154994437you need to shut the fuck up and die already, guy
>>155005281Lmao raped. How’s your job going lil bro? How much are your gay coworkers blubbering about there being no animation openings?
>>155005304My job is really good, and I'm getting paid big time. And that's because I don't have to worry about working in the modern day entertainment industry, unlike you.
>>155005318If you have such a good job why do you spend your days screaming at innocent Spumco fans? Why don’t you start a family?Oh wait… you must be having gay hookups with unemployed animators. Suppose they’ve gotta do whatever they can to pay the bills… LMAO
>>155005368>If you have such a good job why do you spend your days screaming at innocent Spumco fansI work as an intern for a law office. I am proud of it because I am studying law. That, by itself, is more important than giving two shits about the current state of animation.
>>155005368>screaming at innocent Spumco fans?not that anon but>implyinghow the fuck are you Spumtards considered innocent, that's something I wanna know
>>154982699Uncle Grandpa was still more kino
Spumtards ruined any discourse for animation online, if it isn't le heckin clamppett inspired they call it Cal arts, And the artists from that fucking show ruined SpongeBob.
>>155005071>much funnier and more memorableHank and Stan are good examples of satire characters done so right that the very people they represent enjoy them just as much as anybody. Especially so with Hank, who was pretty quickly toned down a little bit so that he could (usually) be the "good guy" in his own show.
>>155005697When it boiled down to the later seasons of American Dad, Stan became more of a dudebro than an authority figure, depending on how the writers wanted to manipulate the character, while still using him as a caring dad that wants the best for his family, and his job at the CIA. Meanwhile, Hank has always been conservative with his family lifestyles, and also wanted the best for his family and his propane salesman job. But with that being said, Hank is still well-liked because, like you said (and I know I am repeating, but I am agreeing here), he also has been toned down to respect people equally. But with that said, Stan is also toned down and relaxed in later seasons just for him to be a dudebro.
>>155001903>Every decade has a year or two of cultural bleedover into the next before it develops its own identity.I still consider 2000's to be a bridge gap from the 1990's. Everything that was considered a cultural, political, nor eventual omen midway from the previous decade had slowly carried over as it went along.
>>155005666Without ren and Stimpy you wouldn’t have SpongeBob.why would you still want to dick suck industry shows now that the industry is dead?
>>155005781I get what you mean, my very favorite episode is Red October Sky, it's like the perfect American Dad episode. It focuses heavily on Stan's role as a father and of course he tries his usual brute-force over-the-top CIA methods to get Steve to obey him, before finally sitting down and leveling with him and making things right. The show also had a lot of sillier episodes involving Roger and whatnot, but Stan could be a really great character with a lot of range depending on what was going on around him.Another big part of Hank's staying power, I think, is that he's often portrayed as the only sane man living in an insane world, something a lot of viewers no doubt identify with from time to time. But again, that's when he himself wasn't the crazy one (the episode where the Hill's home insurance lapses comes to mind, kek).
>>154996998>(name) the (animal)boomers like him never really broke the mental shackles of the H-B slop they were raised with
>>154998672NGL, a Roxy and the Heartaches show sounds like a cool idea. Those characters were the main ones from this pic>>154996998 to catch my eye. Maybe that has to be with them being a John K take on Josie and the Pussycats.
>>154996563>>155004035https://civitai.red/models/1078864/soap-girl-ren-and-stimpy-adult-party-cartoon-ponyillust?modelVersionId=1211248https://civitai.red/models/1078838/joanie-ren-and-stimpy-adult-party-cartoon-ponyillust
>>155004251Buddy, we live in a golden age of 2d internet porn. Why are your standards so low?
>>154999588>be abusive dad>son turns for the worst as an adult>"I KNEW something was wrong with him!"Do you fail to see the irony or...?
>>155004767Phineas and Ferb has both SpongeBob and Family Guy DNA
>>155006556It would devolved into having soft Ren & Stimpy isms with the faces during emotional parts.Kinda like Mighty B, at least that show was honest in wanting to use Spumco es que artsyle but more angular
>>155004802>>155004815RADDA RADDA RADDA.
>>155007672I agree with your notion, Schnitzel. But WHAT'S in it for me?
>>155006590Not that anon, but you didn't even read the post, you illiterate retard. What it's trying to imply is that John K is great at drawing women.
>>155006125Red October Sky is such a hilarious episode, and it definitely is among one of my top favorites. But if it's not Stan helping out Steve, it also has him helping out Hayley in certain situations which ended up goes wrong at first, but makes up for his shit decisions. Like in one of the later episodes "Mural of the Story".
>>155006166That's the ironic part. You see boomers and even millennials or zoomers shit on beanface slop or anything made by Illumination, but turn around and appreciate HB shit, and it's because the former generation grew up watching that crap religiously during Saturday morning while the latter two generations grew up watching that on CN or its sister channel Boomerang as this was the shit that let their children watch and thought this was on the same level of animation as the golden age of animation from either Disney, WB or MGM (funny because Hanna and Barbera worked in the latter studio).
>>155006581Soap Girl makes me hnnnnnng
>>155008021HBcrap at least has competent designs
>>155008112Don't forget HBslop were also entertaining and funny as hell
>>155004767>>155004802both made by Spongebob alumni but are not actual clones
>>155004035>>155004482>>155006581>>155008059be honest, you just want to goon to katie rice's drawings
>>155006581Kill yourself slopfaggot.
>>155005304You talk a lot of shit for someone who raped their own niece.
>>155009523Nigga I’m already bragging about raping you zoomers. Have you had a single big life moment yet? Answer the question>>155008021HB at least chose to entertain children instead of have their crews entertain themselves.
>>155009508Try to ignore the goon bot. Fr fr
>>155009719You need to die in a mass shooting or Black Lives Matter riot. Better yet, you need to get deported by ICE already you subhuman piece of shit.
>>155009508>>155009865
>>155010206I don't even like guy but his haters are probably more unhinged than he is. I honestly think Guy is just rage baiting them at this point, and he should keep doing it. After all wasting people's time and ,along them mad is hilarious. I remember people on the Spumco server hated him but when people asked the owner to bring him on they either got timed out or banned.
>>154982402George Liquor was fine in Ren and Stimpy at least.
>>155010284First time hearing about this. Never even been to one and yet I somehow owned this Spumco server. Glad to do so
>>155010284*Making them. Idk how my autocorrect changed it to along.
>>155010300It was run by an ex troon and I was only on that server for like a week before I got banned.
>>155010284>>155010313It's funny how Guy and other Spumtards use John K and Spumco as their autistic religion, but when its haters are just as visibly autistic as them, then it's even more hilarious. It's just like almost every /co/ thread (or some other board).
>>154982402severe childhood trauma that was never resolved. john K was thinking if he could could make george liquor the next mickey mouse, he could come back to his father and say "see dad? cartoons aren't a waste of time and money, I made you a multi-millionaire cartoon star cause I still love you despite what you did to me"
>>154982402Ren & Stimpy was never good
>>155011407Nope
>>155011444ok Guy
>>155011444Why thank you for agreeing with me that Ren & Stimpy was never good.>>155011450I don't understand this schizo or his haters. But it is funny to me.
>>154998299>working under Bakshi.Specifically working on projects like that Mighty Mouse reboot from the late-80's for CBS, seeing as how Kricfalusi was a huge Terrytoons fan, and Bakshi himself worked at Terrytoons during the '50s.
>>155004815>>155007736based mungposter
Bump
