Is misogyny the reason Diana isn't as respected as Bruce and Clark?
>>154983186No, it's 75% of her rogues gallery coming from greek mythology.
>>154983186There aren't a lot of Wonder Woman books you can point to as a great starting point, she's only in the big 3 because her merch is generic enough to sell as the girl option, and even then that's falling to the wayside as Harley Quinn is more popular.Absolute Wonder Woman is great, though, honestly that should become the face of the brand now.
>>154983186Unfortunately it is. People can try and lie to themselves but the industry is still rampant with misogyny. Its cringe as fuck to say that and I hate saying it, but facts are facts.
She's more respected than Arthur.
>>154983292Family Guy and Jeff Dunham kind of nutcut Arthur
>>154983186>>154983292Why are we referring to them by their first names like they're real people?
>>154983202The Hellenic character whose backstory lays in Hellenic stuff has villains tied to the Hellenic faith? Wow..
>>154983495You knew instantly who we are talking about, what's the issue?
>>154983202not even close to being true
>>154983533"Why don't people respect Wonder Woman" is asking a question about the perception of an IP, "why don't people respect Diana" is like she's a real person who is getting disrespected at work, it's a weird way to discuss a comic book character.
>>154983568Meds.
>>154983568okay autismo
>>154983568stop moving the discussion away from Diana
>>154983594>>154983584>>154983583You're all morons.
>>154983568Derailing eh
>>154983598I wonder what was Psycho's relationship with his mom
Let answer your question with a question.Superman has Lex Luthor.Batman has the Joker.Wonder Woman has… who, exactly?
>>154983598Saved.This is /co/ in a nutshell.
>>154983603Diana wouldn't like your potty mouth Anon>>154983635well that's easy! Cheetah
>>154983202Fpbp.
>>154983635>Wonder Woman has… who, exactly?Cheetah. Circe. Maxwell Lord. Ares.
>>154983249/thread
>>154983598While ultimately I thought Wonder Woman: Earth-One was a failure and shit the bed—which is odd because Morrison rarely misses—I did like the idea of making Dr. Psycho good-looking and more three-dimensional as a character. Making him a PUA was retarded, but I kind of like the idea of him being Diana’s villain she has sexual tension with—sort of like this guy hates women but has intrusive thoughts about marrying Wonder Woman, and for Wonder Woman she’s attracted to his mind when he’s not being a raging misogynist and wants to help him overcome that. Something like that anyway.
>>154983659The attempt to make Maxwell Lord a Wonder Woman villain and its consequences has been a disaster for the Wonder Woman brand. Whenever someone wants to use him in her comic you just know they hate her actual rogues galley.
>>154983186
>>154983186Her origin and central mythology have been rewritten and reinterpreted a thousand different ways because her very foundation is something no one likes. Her creator was a Freudian psychologist with a BDSM kink and in polyamorous relationship who believed the key to a healthy society was for women and men to submit to and dominate each other. He created Wonder Woman specifically to spread that message. The Amazons were basically created as a bunch of hippies, but later on feminists who grew up with Wonder Woman wanted to reclaim her when she had grown less popular (Black Canary was probably the most popular female DC character at the time), and so she and the Amazons became an explicitly feminist warrior society, becoming even more Greek-inspired. Now she has no real identity beyond being DC's feminist character.
>>154983249Not to mention, DC editorial would constantly mess up her book just to boost Superman comics with their pointless crossover events. Her book was handled by the Superman editors, treated as an auxiliary title for the Superman IP, and basically used as extra space to prop Superman up.
>>154983186That tv show back in the day was really popular, what did she lose?
>>154983805False.
>>154983186My Adventures With Wonder Woman would go really hard.
>>154983833momentum maybe? they should have followed with another big medium
>>154983186More like her storylines suck, and she has a shit supporting cast, and her rogues gallery is ass aside from Cheeta (furbait) and Giganta (step on me mommy). Not to mention her powers, backstory, and personality are never clearly defined or constantly changing.Her only appeal is sex.
>>154983833DCEU
>>154983840Hippolyta, Wonder Woman's mother, was killed in the 2000s during a poorly conceived Superman crossover event. Wonder Woman herself was forced to kill Maxwell Lord due to yet another misguided Superman crossover. Her comic runs were often disrupted by Superman storylines, as her book was dragged into his crossover events because they shared the same editorial team.
>>154983186Reality's misogynistic. Women make up half the population of the planet, and they won't pony up to buy Wonder Woman comics or any female led title. It's the same in television and movies - you get all this media made for women and minorities and then they don't show up for it . . . and for some reason it's the white chuddies' fault it doesn't succeed.
>>154983904Superman and Batman are the only reason we even know who this foid is
>>154983202So Thor can have preexisting gods in his rouges gallery and no one care but if Diana does it suddenly it's a problem? Okay what percentage should she have?
>>154983921If your name isn't Batman or Spider-Man, nobody is buying yo shit, tard.
>>154983927who's we
>>154983723
>>154983568Just nicknames the fans like to do. You you be as mad if we called her Wondy instead?
>>154983927Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that her comic was often disrupted to boost the Superman books. Imagine if most of Superman’s defining moments happened because of Batman crossovers, like Pa Kent dying during the Batman event Cataclysm, or Superman marrying Lois as a result of the Batman event No Man’s Land.
>>154983942>who's webro thought he had something here>>154983957Kay
Wonder Woman never got the absolute reputation nuke that pop media gave Aquaman. Was that misandry? No, and neither is Wondie being the more lackluster character among the Trinity.
>>154983936Thor's even less respected than Wonder Woman, so it's kind of moot, but his rogues' gallery really only has Hela and Loki for pre-existing gods.
>>154983186why did she steal gut's sword?
>>154983951I wanna see them fuck
>>154983186She had a really rough deal in the silver age, basically being put in a stagnant jail for 20 years, than basically being completely reworked from time to time.Modern writers aren't familiar with her, so they just write her as a generic woman or warrior.
>>154983874Bro is acting like he reads comics>>154984035That's clearly Cloud Strife's sword
>>154983186Women have to work twice as hard at things to get a fraction of respect men get in the same fields. This has been studied thoroughly and while I hate sounding like the 3rd wave feminists I used to laugh about, its true.
>>154983621He only became like this after meting a turbo thot
>Women are responsible for how men actWow.
>>154984102It was a couple, the woman seduced him so he would take the blame for the murder they did.
>he committed murder but gosh darn that woman made him do it!Wow..
>>154983186She didn't get a cartoon in the 90s to 2000s that dusted off and recodified her rogue's gallery and supporting cast for a new era after comic books had basically collapsed as valid media, so ever since she's been left with nothing to work with.This is a huge part of why her runs are so aimless now and why her rogue's gallery is just left over greek rehashes, evil wonder women who flop, and Circe and Cheetah [IE the two main wonder woman villains who showed up in the cartoons].
>>154984102>>154984128>>154984135Quit derailing.
>>154984151Why hasn't she got a cartoon
BDSM.Feminism.Hypocrisy.Female Superman/Captain Marvel.Boring ass rogues gallery with a boring ass supporting cast that leads to no good stories and consistently low comic book sales/merch.This is very important to get a movie/game/animated series up and running. This is a boys club because they are the main ones getting all this stuff.Action figures and heroism are for boys. Romance, drama and dolls are for girls.Multiple retcons because writers don't actually like her and have good reason not to.Her movie being successful was not because of the main character. Trust me. Hype was the reason. And the second movie completely taints the first one anyway.The very few animated movies she has both flopped.Game that was canceled was going to be just as bad or worse than SS.Her not being treated like Bruce and Clark because she's a woman is debatable because Barbie/Disney princesses and Sailor Moon make billions like these two men.Girls do not care about Wonder Woman because she's masculine and goes into battle, beats up men, etc. And there's very little romance. When there is it's with a nothing, waste of space character. Batman is her greatest love interest and vice versa. The knight and princess is a classic thing for a reason. These two just have way more merit for a relationship than being with anyone else and I'd say it's just as good or better than Clark/Lois.Boys don't like her because she's a walking, talking don't need no man, can do it all by myself.Strong independent woman. Girlboss.Men bad, women good. Even though Amazons wouldn't exist without Zeus...a man.Now who would want to sit through an animated series/movie/game and watch/listen to all this bullshit? Exactly.Future game/animated series is DOA because of this.Barbie works because she's girly.Sailor Moon works because she's girly and there's romance. Same thing with Disney princesses.If she doesn't take off with boys and girls then who hell is she for as a character?
>>154984171Cartoons have been a moribund medium ever since ipads displaced toys as the main way for parents to shut kids up. Cartoons were always glorified toy commercials, so without toys to sell nobody knows what to do with animated media or what demographics to target with it.
>>154984458Man, anon wrote all these words and yet he just screamed 'I am an incel and love Andrew Tate' over and over.
>>154984458>Even though Amazons wouldn't exist without Zeus...a man.these movie fans...
>>154983792It’s unfortunate that Wonder Woman has to be “iconic” to people at the expense of what she originally was, which was far more interesting. Of course, the attempts to bring back that aspect of her have been failures because they attempt to appease modern feminists, who aren’t very interesting.
>>154983186she's supposed to represent the magic side of the spectrum , have her fight more magic monsters.
>>154983851Imagine letting Diana fart in your face.. fugggggg
>>154984506I don’t agree with the anon you’re responding to, but your response is pretty generic and boring too.
>>154984856Cool.
>>154984506Man you came out of nowhere to dismiss what I said because you can't read and don't like facts.
>>154984586Here comes the delusional wonder woman fans.
Wonder Woman has the perfect hypothetical rogues gallery, they just were never written exceptionally well. Like the only "iconic" moment from one of them is Ares realizing he should prefer continuous wars over nuclear holocaust, which is pretty basic and something pre-Crisis Ares already knew.
>>154983669Stfu
>>154984870It was cool, yes.
>>154983186No it’s her lack of memorable stories, and her one dimensional personality
It’s cartoons. As a kid, I grew up watching Batman, supermen, Spider-Man, x-men, teen titans, and justice league. These are the heroes I like because these are the heroes I know. Wonder Woman existed in the JL cartoon, but because it’s an ensemble cast, it didn’t explore her character and world to the extent that Batman’s and superman’s shows did. The key to becoming popular is popularity through animations, films, and games. The general population does not read comics because comics are gay. It’s that simple.
>>154983792>Black Canary was probably the most popular female DC character at the timeAnd look at her now
Nightwing has a better rogues gallery than Wonder Woman and he sells more. She just isn't an interesting character. It is why the Absolute version turned her into a super magic character with a giant sword and stuff to make her less like her mainline version as possible to try and sell her better.
>>154983186>Superman>Supergirl>Batman>Batgirl>Wonder Woman>Wonder Boy? 80 years later and Wonder Woman still does nothing to appeal to the little boys who's the main demographic to comics.
>>154983186No, it's because Wonder Woman didn't get a cartoon in the 90s like Batman and Superman or multiple film and TV adaptations when the time was best to do so.On top of that, there's no one at DC preventing newer writers from dismissing whatever the latest writer has established in favor of their own thing and with the exception of Absolute Wonder Woman, every modern Wondy writer is afraid to have their stories pull from the Golden Age or the adventure fiction that inspired the character.
>>154983186>>154983249Nothing unfortunate about it. Its both natural and normal that male-dominated fields don't give a shit about women other than as sex appeal. That's never not going to be the case for superheroes, military shows, anything based around trains, planes or automobiles, navy dramas, post-apocalyptic stuff or any of the other fields of fiction media that women simply do not patronize beyond the surface level. Women are not men, they're never going to give a shit about men stuff. Men do not like women, they're never going to give a shit about women in men stuff. They do like fantasizing about women as sex objects however, so if the women in your male-oriented media are there as sex objects, it will sell better. Simple as. They were always barking up the wrong tree with it.
>>154984171She was going to get one magical girl one, but it was scrapped.And she could only be in a cartoon if she was the/a mcAmd executives are also just averse to give her stuff outside of comics in general.
>>154983202... What a retarded statement.
>>154984042Dr. Psycho's return in the silver age was a story where Ares tries to prove that Wonder Woman is only a hero because of her male god given powers and that her power of being as beautiful as aphrodite was bullshit
>>154985910I would have watched a Wonder Woman cartoon as a kid since I loved her in Justice League. Nice try though.Hell my dad watched her tv show as a kid.
>>154986478I love that she kisses him without a second thought. She comes off as really confident and feminine here, which is rarely the case in a lot of modern comics.
>>154983186idk probably
>>154983833That show was only popular because Linda Carter is hot af, nobody remembers who she even fought unlike the Adam West show.>>154983884The fact that they didn't even bother giving her a show speaks volumes.
>>154983186i wouldn't know. i hate feminism because we objectively don't live in a patriarchy and 4th wave can't be intersectional as long as it's anti-man but i think absolute wonder woman is an entertaining comic about a heroic woman who has compassion and resolve. i have all issues up to 19
>>154983249Other way around. A C-list concept like hers would be nothing if it weren't for the rampant simping that predominates in male spaces.
>>154983186girls and nogs don't draw, it's that simple
>>154983186You have Kelly Thompson as your champion, I think that's self-explanatory enough.
>>154983186Her stories just aren't as good.
>>154983202To add to this, it's because she's steeped in greek mythology and stories but greek mythology and stories are too "edgy" for capeshit so you get these bastardized disneyified versions that are pure shit for anyone with an actual interest and passion in greek myths and stories.
>>154984458Batman is not her greatest love interest
>>154983186It's actually the opposite.If you tell a shitty Batman or Superman story, it's a shitty story.If you tell a shitty Wonder Woman story, that's misogyny, that's r/menwritingwomen and a hashtag and an audience that will never let you live it down. Wonder Woman has to be flawless because she's *the* woman and her stories represent an entire sex and an entire ideology in a way that Superman and Batman don't have to worry about. That is a massive creative burden.And this results in a character that has way more writers that go >I'll just throw out everything that came before me since everyone seems to have hated itor worse, writers that walk on eggshells and are afraid to do anything cool with her.Which ends up with her not getting to have iconic one shots or arcs like the other two, which means she can't have an adaptation of a story like Knightfall or Red Son because she never got one in the first place, which means an even smaller audience over time that just gets more insular and crazy in their demands and defense of her.
>>154983851My Adventures With Wonder Woman would die in the pitch meeting for exactly the reason in your pic. No execs are gonna let it be a lesbian romance and nobody gives a shit about Steve Trevor so there's nobody to have Adventures With.
>>154987962Julia and Vanessa?
>>154984035More surprised that its not a keyblade from Kingdom Hearts. When it comes to swords of recent times in stuff keyblades have become the most famous. And seeing Wonder Woman using a keyblade would be amusing.
>>154984458>Batman is her greatest love interest and vice versaRetard
>>154984506okay liberal
>>154984506
>>154983186her villains are kinda lame, her supporting cast is also kinda lame, and her love interest is a boring faggot
The stans disliking my long and factual post is as predictable as the sunrise.Always happy to piss all you shitheads off.
>>154985742Dan Dildo and his editorial dictatorship must be studied
>stansLiteral lowcow tranny lingo from sa and kf
If she was written like she was in the golden age and the TV show she would still be popular
>>154983298Is Jeff Dunham the guy on Dr Katz who talked shit about Aquaman being the most pointless superhero ever? >Oh, he can talk to fish; the hell's a fish gonna say? they have a three second memory! >"Hello, fish!" "Hi, Aquaman! "Have you seen any crime lately?" "Hi, Aquaman!"Also, NGL, that unaired Aquaman pilot with whatshisname who eventually played Ollie on Smallville in the lead (and Ving fucking Rhames supporting) was pretty good and I would've liked to have seen it made into a full series. I never liked the giant cunt as Arthur. Hawk and Dove guy. Reacher guy. That dude. Bad Aquaman.
>>154988597>sa and kfI don't know what that is. Stan originated from an Eminem song. I've never even actually heard it or indeed more than three of his tracks and I knew that.
>>154984458Holy mother of secondary casual tvtropes faggotry, just admit that you are a crazy tranny or fat cunt who never read comics and be done with.>>154988602Dr katz itself was pure juice of shitwood writer juice off the arts college, and bojack before bojack.
>>154983186The early WW writers were more interested in satisfying their fetishes rather than building a good mythology for her.
>>154983186yeah
>>154989795It is kind of the opposite, Charles actually wrote all kinds of stories for her.Golden age Wondy had a strong world and cast.
>>154991000Talking about Silver Age mostly. Golden Age was good and is the only reason WW is still remembered.
>>154983568Alright let's change it to why doesn't Wonder Woman have the same amount of media/profitability as Batman and Superman? This can be discussed even though she isn't real.>>154983659So a lack of a clear villain.>>154984171Who would she fight against? In which era? Even the movies struggle to give her an antagonist, unlike Batman/Superman/Spider-Man as they have good rogue galleries.>>154984458Very true. Even PPG had problems because boys didn't want to admit liking it and girls didn't like it.>>154987953Very true. Wonder Woman has to meet a high feminist standard, while Batman and Superman don't have to meet a masculine standard.
>>154983186Her villains suck Her supporting cast sucksHer fanbase is so insane that even DC tiptoes with themVery few actually good classic stories to her name compared to other big names
>>154983936No one cares about Thor outside of finding the actor who plays him in the MCU hot either
>>154983186Tell me which male superhero has more than 2 runs with more than 227 issues each one.
>>154991577the perfect rogues gallery
>>154991577>Her fanbase is so insane that even DC tiptoes with themThis is true, at least in my experience. I am a WW fan, but it always stood out to me how nuts some of her fans were on the old CBR forum.
>>154989795>>154991000Marston is underrated People overlook his writing to focus on the fetish stuff. His adventures were fantastic and his dialogues were the best Wonder Woman and her cast ever sounded. It's not often that the original iteration of a Golden Age character is the best characterization but it's true for Wonder Woman.It also had overaching plots that would pop up in other stories. There was a Saturn invasion plot where she brokered a peace treaty between Earth and Saturn and later rogue Saturnians tried to sabotage that lasted 2 years with other stories mentioning it and having links to it. Also stuff happening in Atlantis that continued previous stories with offscreen events in between. Not common in those days.
>>154991890Tell me which female hero has multiple concurrent books coming out at any one given time.
>>154983186>>154983792The problem is there aren't really high profile writers that have a passion for the character the same way Frank Miller had for Batman or Morrison for Superman.George Perez became the writer of post crisis WW book basically because he muscled his way and nobody, I mean nobody was interested on writing the book. The original writer that was paired with him, decided to drop before even the first number without a hiccup because he was only hired and didn't care about the character.And that is something that continues to this day.
>>154992495they usually give her book to writers who want to climb the ladder to write Supermanbut Earth One for instance was Morrison wanting to write her, and he fell on his faceit must be noted that a lot of themes of post-Crisis reboot were already being introduced throughout the 80s under Len Wein as editor, who was credited with the first arc story too. Darker mythology.
>>154992603>Earth One for instance was Morrison wanting to write herMorrison writing the character was more about completing a bucket list. There was really not passion for the character. The whole premise of the book was more interested in the thought experiment of building up society used the Marston concepts than a showcase for the character.
>>154988499you're retarded
>>154983202...Okay?
>>154983186>wonders gets the red hood treatmentboosts sales or no?
>>154983186Pretty much.
>>154987962Seething self insert cuck
>>154987647You are the male version of the feminist you hate btw.
>>154993924i bet you think you're smart
They need to reprint Deodato
>>154987900Most mythology shows end up being pretty cleaned up. I think you could probably do a pretty solid Jackie Chan Adventures type show with her. She comes from Paradise Island looking for some stolen macguffins, makes friends with a nice family, we get some vaguely educational history and mythology tossed in between monster fights. That's good for a couple seasons.
>>154983186Reeeee womenreeeeee menSame shit different asshole
>>154988602>Is Jeff Dunham the guy on Dr Katz who talked shit about Aquaman being the most pointless superhero ever?Lmao no, that was Dave Chapellehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvqwobBo9Y
>>154987831she's good at writing diana
>>154983202Why would that be the issue?
>>154992745It felt more like a satire of Marston than anything, whether that was the intention or not doesn’t really matter. That and the book felt culturally dated, almost like it was trying to use the energy of Tumblr in 2013 instead of the then current year culture.
>>154995628That means she's a trash character.
>>154986478did he came?
>>154987647calm down Dr Psycho
>>154983186It's because Diana has way less movies and TV shows compared to Bruce and Clark.
>>154997138No
>>154992023Wish they added dr domino and the fireworks man
>>154997117The book was released in 2016 even before the election. Also DC had it shelved for a while until they decided to go forward for it. 2013 tracks with the year that was conceptualized.
>>154983202Bro must hate the Odyssey's box office and Epic the Musical's popularity
>>154998830I just hate at how co-opted greek mythology has become by tumblr types man
>>154983635It HAS to be Ares, he’s not a woman hater, he just believes that woman shouldn’t have equal rights, and shouldn’t be trained to be warriors and fight, it’s a good dynamic to have with a woman who was made out of clay from the spirit of a woman who died from male violence, not to mention his outfit in Perez run is pure aura and he was in her first movie, he’s cool as fuck and can be a believable justice league threat when needed
>>154983635Cheetah
>>154998880I always disliked how Marston made Ares an enemy of the Amazons from the start, considering he was the father of the mythological Hippolyta. I think it would be cooler if the Amazons were originally allied with Ares but rejected him for the ways of Aphrodite.
>>154998850NTA, but I understand your frustration. Modern social rejects misappropriating mythology to validate their identities and opinions is tragic and sad.
>>154983186>Is misogyny the reason Diana isn't as respected as Bruce and Clark?I dunno about Superman, but the majority of Batman's appeal is his rogue's gallery.
Marston created Wonder Woman primarily to appeal to boys, to give them an attractive and confident heroine who they would willingly want to follow. Trying to have her be primarily appealing to women kind of misses the point, she’s ALWAYS going to appeal to a lot of women, but if she’s not appealing to men then you lose the point. I don’t see why she couldn’t be appealing to men today, Marston did it with much more restrictions. I know, she’s iconic and some online people would bitch and you might see a shitty article or two, but it would be successful.
>>154998880>>154998916Ares is the antagonist of WW because the duality of war between him and Athena. Don't over think it to much.
>>154999358Aphrodite, actually.But I’d prefer to think about it.
>>154983515If you knew anything about mythology, you’d know that she has nothing to do with Greek mythology; it’s pure fanfiction by someone who has never read a myth in their life.
>>154999562
>>154998880>>154999358>It HAS to be Ares, he’s not a woman hater, he just believes that woman shouldn’t have equal rights, and shouldn’t be trained to be warriors and fight,Weirdly enough in Greek mythology, Ares is the father and chief deity of the Amazons. He’s not against women fighting, he’s pro-violence in general. He’s the god of War itself. Athena on the other hand is the goddess of strategic warfare and so she’s essentially the god of war for the higher aristocrats, the glory of war and its more “fun” aspects. Also funnily enough Ares and Athena are lovers as well. the divine masculine and the divine feminine and all that.
>>154999654Actually it’s Ares and Aphrodite who are lovers. Athena is a volcel.
>>154994473Most mythology shows are mediocre or awful.
>>154999739shit mean to write Ares and Aphrodite
>>154999992No worries. But I kind of wish they had incorporated that relationship in the origin of the Amazons, maybe have them be a dual creation of both gods. Ares could give them their strength while Aphrodite gives them boundless love. Maybe even incorporate the idea of the Amazons going mad without their bracelets—a curse from their father that is only calmed by voluntarily loving submission.
>>154999003Wasn't the point that she was the type of woman who he thought was supposed to rule the world?
>>155001051yeah, he thought all men subconsciously wanted to lovingly submit to a strong woman like diana
>>154983186isn't it because of her creator's estate? there was a huge legal hurdle as there's no wonder woman cartoon series outside of movies.
>>154983186no its female entitlement and flase sense of superiority
>>154983495>>154983568
DC comics are written for retards, so the only way the heroes get broad mainstream appeal is from other media.And Wonder Woman has had far less than any of her more popular peers.Which doesn't prevent her from having a ton of comics, the tenured DC crap characters perpetuate forever.Aquaman has barely had an original idea or storyline beyond "what if we cut his hand off and give him a beard?" in 60 years.
>>154994473you just know
>>154983186Greek myth shit is boring, she has no good enemies, and ZERO memorable stories.
>>154983568What a crybaby
>>154983186I still find it funny that in the DC and Sonic they used Grodd, a flash villain, instead of cheetah, that should really tell how the writers treat her villains
>>154989677Wonder MILK
>>155002750>Greek myth shit is boringNo, it's the capeshit aspect that makes her boring.
>>155001075Correct. And for that to happen you need to pitch the idea to boys and make it appealing to them—he wasn’t trying to convince women. That’s why Wonder Woman should always appeal to males.
>>154999992a common mistake
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>>155005505No
>>154983186Its the Marston estate.
>>155006640Yes.
>>154983249They hated bro because he told the truth.
>>155005543No, he wanted a role model for girls and women to emulate. He wanted to do what Superman was at the time for boys but with girls.
>>154983249>It's men's fault because women don't support the book
>>154983249There are more simps than misogynists these days.
>>154983186Red looks GOOD on her!
>>155007693Wrong. She was intended to appeal to boys and convince them to follow women like Wonder Woman.
Diana has to go through the hardships of the american working class. Make her work at Taco Whiz again for a whole year.
>>154983186bump
>>154983249Utter bullshit, she's not popular because she is lame and making her even more dyke by the day isn't helping. There are more women and simps today and they Still don't give a shit about her
>>154999003The character was litterally propoganda for girls and little boys and porno or degenerates.It was to push feminism, bondage, dominatrixes and lgbtqa themes onto children. Wertham was in fact 100% correct about Marston.And the only reason anyone cares today is because they still have a boner for linda carter and she's the only female given any real push from DC.Outside of harley who they utterlly destroyed by having her carry the WW dyke/feminist baton.
I've been reading the Perez omnibuses because I really like Perez but volume 2 isn't really as interesting as the first
>>155012091>Outside of harley who they utterlly destroyed by having her carry the WW dyke/feminist baton.Fuck i remembered Harley still exists, years ago she used to be everywhere
>>155012091so what you're saying is diana should tie up and fuck hot bitches?
>>155008961Both groups place all value in women, though. That and they lack self-respect.
