Idiot son strikes again
>>154998861NOOOO MIKI YOU IDIOT AAAAAA
>>154998861>I must apologize for Will, he is an idiot. We have purposelly trained him wrong, as a joke
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>>154998861We can still turn it around ssaelbros
I finally pledged to the kickstarter today :)
>>154998861Argenti Sr pondering how he can make the worst possible decision here.
>>154998861>Will immediately throws Miki under the bus for the duel but his father would rather he keep the L and deal with her privatelyHonestly wasn't expecting this as a potential outcome
What emotion is this expression meant to convey?
>>154999104Will just saved Miki by taking that nose dive.
I think Will Sr. was going to call it off. However doing so now after his son fell out of the fucking ring would reflect bad on him.>Geffie's when Amadwe says the duel doesn't count after his son makes a fool of himself
>>154999109Disappointment, exasperation, acceptance. He won't be getting rid of Will today, and now he can't humiliate him either because Will just humiliated himself first.>>154999091Good. Pledges are going back up. Chances are small but we could still make it to the zine if they stay at the same rate as the last two days.
>>154998861The GOOD+WIN, every time. Look at his smirk in panel 7.
>>154999129More importantly, what if his son things he has any amount of affection for him if he actually listens to him on this? He was considering calling it just because his son was possibly about to get the credit for a win.
>>154999109Disappointed acceptance.
>>154999109>mfw when my son survives
god dang pussy ass no balls sore loser will
>>154998953>>He's gonna kick her ass later over this >(Yeah, pound that pissmop ass Will.
>>154998861so how did miki fuck up here
>>154998861>Argenti Sr.: Still alive, I see. Pity.
>>154999109Disdain for life.
>>154998861>Lose>Immediatly asks his dad to stop the duelHoly shit what a faggot well ok maybe he's just doing it to protect Mikhaila
>>154999693I want comfortably retired Claggart to appear for a moment, just so he can blow some spicy stinkweed smoke in Argenti Sr's gay face.
>next page>Argenti Sr curbstomps Will, killing him instantly>page after that>roll creditsWell Mike, what did you think of Unsounded Book 2: The Red Cost?
>>154999094>>154999129I think him letting the duel play out is interesting. Is he doing it in the hope Mikaila wins, saving Ssaelit face? Is he doing it because he hopes Mikaila will be revealed and disgraced? Both? Neither?
>>154999109I read it as "about what I expected from you". It's not like Will fought terribly. If anything I think it's a begruding "you did OK". But then Will wants to go nepo-pussy-mode and have him stop the duel and he once again wishes for his son's death.
Like>left: Maybe it's OK if my son lives>right: Tomorrow I must come up with a surefire way to kill my sonThat's my read.
>>155000359>But then Will wants to go nepo-pussy-mode and have him stop the duel and he once again wishes for his son's deathHe's obviously worried icky babby girl Mikki is about to get Goodwon to death.
>>155000345I think he's doing it because to stop the duel now would be a worse dishonor, read as being done because his son lost. It's very different to intervene and reveal the truth when your side is winning. But now that his son was just knocked out, and that Miki is in mortal peril, it could be read as a way for Ssaelit interests to prevail no matter what happens if he were to intervene.>>155000431We know that, but I don't think that's how his father is reading Will's begging. He doesn't think highly enough of his son to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even if he is correctly understanding Will's motives.
>>154998861I'm beginning to understand why your dad wants you dead, Will.
>>155000431Imagine having less respect for your crush’s competence than your weirdo fanatic chauvinist dad. Will is such a fucking loser.
>>154999104Realistically, Will is just afraid she'll get horribly killed. And Argenti senior just doesn't care.
>>155000345If he calls off the duel now, not only will it be revealed that a woman dishonored a sacred duel, he'll have to forfeit AND his son will have been outlasted by a girl. It's every possible way this could go wrong with zero upsides.The only way to save face would be IF Mikaila wins, and he settles this behind closed doors, and even then heads would roll, metaphorically speaking. Probably Will's, literally speaking.
>1679 backersThat is one reader per 20 cites in the United States. That's like one reader per county. One reader per province in Europe. One reader per 2200 square miles in America.Did you know that illiteracy increased to 30% from 20% in the past decade in the United States? That means that for every person who died, they were replaced by a high school graduate illiterate meaning they can read, they just don't understand what they just read. And before someone thinks of taking free shots at America, remember that America has the money to conduct said studies and has the freedom to release that information. The point here is that it doesn't matter what part of the planet you're from if you know a kid they're probably retarded even by 4chan standards. Maybe you should consider getting one of those retarded kids you know a set of books so we can get the novella printed. You can't be that much of a sad sack that you don't know someone who needs incentive to fucking read.Statistically speaking, you haven't fucking shared this webcomic with anybody let alone the love of reading. Come the fuck on.
>>155000550>illiteracy increased to 30% from 20% in the past decade in the United StatesYou know that Onion article that's like, "guy really loves telling people about how John Lennon beat his wife?" I feel like I'm becoming the stereotype of that except with telling people about Sold A Story and how the three-cueing method of teaching reading fucked over an entire generation of American children
>>155000567And it wasn't just limited to America, it was popular in a lot of countries. A lot of states are starting to pass laws on using more traditional and evidence backed strategies for reading now, thankfully. But there will be no undoing the damage that was done to those who grew up with it.>>155000550>Statistically speaking, you haven't fucking shared this webcomic with anybody let alone the love of reading.I've offered to buy a copy of volumes 1-4 for every lapsed reader I know. Requested it at book stores and my library. And spent over a decade shilling it to anyone who'll listen. Cut me some slack.
>>155000550My mother is a school librarian. From what she tells me the struggle is getting them away from comics because those retarded kids will just look at the pictures and absorb nothing.
>>155000677>>155000567 is right. The problem isn't the kids. We taught them wrong. An entire generation of readers was failed because we taught them to read in a way that makes them worse at reading. Any time anyone ever tries to tell you what's wrong with kids these days and why they're not as good at stuff as we were back then, remember that. It's not their fault. So much of our ability to learn new things hinges on our ability to read, and at no point in their school career were they taught how to be good readers. Most of gen z and at least some of gen alpha were specifically taught, for example, to look at images to figure out what words mean instead of learning how to break down the words themselves. This creates less confident readers who learn to guess meanings instead of understand them. Schools taught kids to do that. And when you don't understand how to read, you definitely aren't going to like it.
>>154999284Why does Argenti hate his son so? I don't think I've ever gathered the reason other than a bitch mother or something.
>>155000730I think sending him off to war was done only to punish his wife and not because of any innate dislike. He's just fairly cold and was unconcerned with the consequences. Present day? Because Will is a failure. And because it's unambiguously Argenti's fault. That PTSD that holds him back from being the capable warrior-son he would want is entirely from a bad decision made by Argenti. I don't think he feels guilt for it, but something like shame and embarrassment for ruining his heir. And every time Will acts is a fresh reminder that it's too late now. Copper can kill their children and try again to get better ones if they're big enough failures. But Argenti is out of time, and his son has not lived up to his impossible standards, and it is unambiguously his own fault.
>>155000567>three-cueing methodIf it makes you feel any better, Columbia dissolved the school pushing that horseshit and schools are wholesale throwing that shit out.>>155000677>getting them away from comicsYeah, comics and manga are the most popular products. I wouldn't have believed it until this year but I thought pictures enhanced writing. I always thought manga and comic writing was mostly shit and I just realized this year that people tolerate that shit writing because they aren't actually fucking reading it. Which means pushing graphic novels and comics has been entirely detrimental to kids because the pictures are crutches to comprehension.Reading can only be trained with only words. People need to see in their minds what they read - that is what builds comprehension. Pictures take away the need for imagination. It means we've been fucking poisoning kids ever since television replaced books and radio. It means this entire board stands for a product that is actually fucking up kids. This is why film and television has to constantly repeat the plot - because viewers aren't paying attention. This is why violence and sex is everywhere because the viewer can't have the attention span without it.20% illiteracy in America is bad enough but that's only from television. A 50% increase in that figure in ten fucking years is entirely on the Internet. That's why everything is going to fucking shit because the audience is just buying porn and violence because they can't think. They're spending billions on Twitch and YouTube because they can't actually read.
>>155000730>>155000764Did I hallucinate a line in the comic or a Q&A tumblr ask, or is Argenti suspicious that Will isn't really his for whatever reason?
>>155001088I don't remember anything like that desuPersonally I think it's infinitely more interesting if Will is his biological son and is just a fuck-up
>>155001088Yes, Argenti Sr. thinks his wife cheated on him and made Will, which is one of the reasons Will was sent to the front. Of course, this is what Argenti Sr. ASSUMES. Is it true? Who knows! A lot of people are wrong about assumptions in this comic.
>>154998861>>154998861This update is pretty cool, kinda ties into what we were talking about last update and how action is shown (i had thought this but was at work so I couldn't share)When Will came down on that slivers sword I thought he might have caught the blade with the "hilt" of the spearhead hooking it and allowing him to control the weapon But then I looked back and the spear doesn't have that feature so I was confused how he'll was holding that sword down (he should've come from under the sword to deflect it away properly?)Well today's update seems like that was the move since the silver is coming up from under with that sword scabbard combo and that top right panel illustrates that perfectly and what was obviously absent from Wills attack earlierAlthough it might be a stretch to say this but maybe part of the confusion surround Wills actions in that last update is reflected is the way its portrayed Thats all I got
>>154998861also I done like how everyone is all to eager to throw Will under the buss, but I wouldnt be surprised at all if he snaps at miki for slipping on her pymary and losing face to his father.Will seems easier to read then his Dad who is certainly moving to intercede in this scene but I cant act like i know how he plans to
>>155001656I think it's the kind of same deal as with Tywin Lannister, he hates Tyrion and would like to believe he isn't his but can't prove he isn't (and if any of his kids aren't, it's Jaime and Cersei from Aerys possibly raping Joanna).
>>155001730The irony of the one he hates the most being the most HIS of his children....
It would be more misogynist to NOT let Miki get brutally murdered here, actually.
>>155000550Fuck them kids.
>>155000775Alright Neil Postman.
>>154999572She put the slick spot Will slipped on. But this is mostly on Will. He got outplayed by someone younger than him with a worse weapon for this conflict and multiple congenital physical defects.
>>155000775Manga (not comics) are popular with boys because they cater to male interests, which aren't the pronouns of a transgender 1920s Jewess or the petty living room politics of boring people but violence, adventure, and sex.
>>154999129I wish to smooch her~
>>155002856You are a terrible person, Nora.
>>154998861Ssael's sake, Will. You had a spear against a sword and your opponent is a younger man with defective cardiovascular organs further handicapped by having to watch your partner. How do you fuck that up?
>>155000477But Miki joined this fight for the same reason Will wants it stopped: worried the other one might die. And Will has already had to bail her out two times, maybe three if you count him intercepting the initial charge. So it's not like his concern is unfounded.
>>155003917Yeah, his fear is legit. His dad doesn't care and I don't think she'll see it that way, though. Miki does not seem like a girl charmed by chivalry.
>>155003420To be fair Goodwin's tricksy. See how his sword changes from right to left to right again without leaving his hands, he's clearly using some kind of advanced glamour.
>>155001906>>155003420The congenital defects don’t outweigh the plat is just way stronger than Will.
>>155004687We’ll fix that in post, don’t worry about it.
Fundamentally even though WoG says the average dick size in Kasslyne is a girthy 8”+ you just KNOW Will is not packing heat and has a scrawny, puny lil dick. You can sense it.
>>155001656I don't remember reading this but it would make sense. Do you have the ask? Everything I've seen Ashley say about it was just that he wanted to punish his wife and found Will a convenient way to do so, I can't remember her saying why.
>>155005212>WoG says the average dick size in Kasslyne is a girthy 8”Guys, maybe we were a little too hasty in denouncing Sessine
>>155005149You'd need to be strong as a fucking bear for it to matter. Will just got got because he was being sloppy.
>>155005212I can't even tell if you're joking, because insofar as I know, all of the main male cast have a large hog.
>>155001695>>155004687I have to say, mistakes and confusion aside, Ashley's action sequences have improved tremendously from where they used to be. Also, I fully accept that Goodwin used a glamour there that Will didn't notice and tripped Will up. That seems in character for both of them.>>155005212You clearly haven't seen how Will looks later when he's off at sea if you think that.>>155005819Even if it isn't explicitly confirmed it's definitely not wrong.
>>155005819Ashey came into this very thread to confirm.>>155005881It grows 5 extra inches when it touches salt water for the first time.
>>155005802Goodwin probably is strong as a fucking bear desu.
Don't worry, Willbros. In 15 years Will will be absolutely stronger than Goodwin.
>>155006441Maybe it's just a natural part of Kasslynian second puberty.
>>154999109>You know what? fine. If this stupid uppity broad wants to enter a man's world and get into a big boy fight with grown men, she can find out the hard way how good women actually have it.
>>154999109
>>155003420>>155005149I think the only things Goodwin has to worry about are poor eyesight, not an issue at melee range, and poor stamina, also not an issue since he's only been casting until just now. Plat defects don't seem to be too big a deal until they hit their late 20's, when according to Ashley they get weird as their insides give out. And I don't think it can be described as congenital defects so much as a generally poor constitution.If he was forced into a brawl for more than a few minutes, then yeah I'd expect his stamina to deplete quickly, but this was his first exchange in melee. Will went toe to toe with a brick shithouse at full strength; he might have gotten tossed even without the ice.
man how do you lose against some fat chud with a shortsword when you're armed with a spear
>>155006461He doesn't have the glut look.
>>155008469>And I don't think it can be described as congenital defects so much as a generally poor constitution.Congenital just means a condition of birth. Goodwin isn't out of shape, other than the itty bitty matter of his bad heart and lungs, but he's riddled with birth defects that'll kill him in ten years.I assume however that Rosseau isn't a complete idiot, that Goodwin is all that, and that it's no shame to get beaten by him. At minimum he must beat up the other plats in the coppers' pokemon tournaments, to get such praise.
>>154999109Disappointment and shame without surprise.
>>155008741No shame in losing to Godwin the Platinum. Also yeah he is strong as fuck.
>>155008741The whole swordvirgin vs. spearchad thing is partly true but also overblown. Notably the Romans favoured the short sword over the spear for close quarters fighting.
>>155009000Also Will got shield bashed in the head a minute ago.
>>155008741He used a special move he learned from playing Sekiro.
>goodwin is seriously mega strong guys, he's soooo powerful and really tough and basically hidden boss tier
>>155009000Miki will destroy him after Argenti lets the duel continueGoodwin will try to draw the aspects of her ancestors to shame her and burn out on the immense angst and ennui coming off of Duane and the bottomless lake of pain essence that was once Lemons dick
>>155009785>the Crescians are turning Lem’s paindick into a new silver superweapon
>>155009785>Goodwin will try to draw the aspects of her ancestors to shame herDon't think that's a thing, but I'm quite sure she'll scrape by, if only barely.
>>155009885Did Ash ever clarify if the direct-liquid-pain-injection-to-the-dick is, like, an *interrogation* technique or is it another terrifying fetish of hers
>>155010200The injecting it into his dick is entirely a shitpost here born from the fact the Lem is naked and you could see his dick. The thing the canister is going is is tilted way higher up. It's just the pov in the last panel that looks like it's pointed at his dick. probably goes through the tubes leading to the back of his neck(?)
>>155010430Don’t listen to this anon. They are melting his dick by injecting it directly with liquid pain. The true RED COST is that the Crescian breath system is powered by a fused, molten dick-morass of pain-dissolvéd Aldish pricks. A cockfire furnace burns beneath Cresce, and e’er more Aldish manhoods must always be harvested to support the Sonorie throne.
>>155010430Nah, it can clearly be rotated via the levers, it has what looks like a port on the dick-facing end, and there's no visible connection between the slot and the tubes or back of the chair. That is 100% a dick-torturing machine. At best it has a range between anus and navel.
>>155010930I dunno anon. It seems to just be for the top the pain jar which itself has a opening at the bottom. The chair, the tubes, and capsule holder are all one piece, as you can see from the chair next to lemon. I'm sure we will get an elaborate demonstrations sooner or later.
>>155011106That's not an opening, that's a depression. And the pain juice would have to flow through that cylindrical barrel it's mounted on, down those side supports, and then through the body of the table into the chair and hence to Lemon. The cables are coming from the opposite direction. Don't lecture me on CBT I'm a past master
