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THIS IS IT BROS. THE EPISODE THAT IS ALL BUT LEFT. WILL XAVIER HEED APOCALYPSE'S WORD TO BECOME THE BETTER MUTANT OR FAIL AGAIN LEARNING NOTHING. FIND OUT BY DOWNLOADING THIS EXCITING LAST EPISODE OF X-MEN 97 S2 AND BE SURE TO UPLOAD IT TO VLC TO ENABLE THE SOUND OF THE MKV FILE. I'LL POST THE FULL SEASONS OF 1 AND 2 LATER. ENJOY!
https://gofile.io/d/e1A1BC
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>>155000401
so ugly
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SHE AND HER BOYS ARE IN
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>>155000770
Honestly, when you lay out her skills like that Raven doesn't seem all that threatening. We're currently fighting a man who can make plasma canons out of his ass cheeks, please fuck off Mystique.
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Bring back gay nigga.
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Appearently Psylocke is Kwannon and not Betsy.
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>>155001015
lame and gay if so. also should've had Forge flying the blackbird
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>>155000401
Dogshit season and dogshit finale.
Unironically a 3/10 season.
Just bring back the gay.
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I didn't give a shit about anything that happened in this season. The wolverine episode was all right I guess.
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Why do they keep teasing Onslaught but never deliver?
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>>155001086
>Dogshit season and dogshit finale.
>X-Men 97
>constantly bringing up and referencing post-00's shit
>more interesting X-Men getting sidelined by Jubilee and Morph
You said it, pal
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I just find it ironic how those responsible for this series really don't care about Storm.
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>>155001154
>>X-Men 97
>>constantly bringing up and referencing post-00's shit
They should've never named it 97 in the first place. We had a 90s X-Men show, just do a general one.
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Plot is all over the place
Is the gambit the same as it happened in the comic?
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>>155000401
Please tell me Polaris is useful
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Who the fuck did the writing for the dogfight?
Just awful pun after awful pun. I know its supposed to be the 90s but the quips dont have to be that cringe and gay
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>>155000401
>inb4 Cable uses Apocalypse as a buttplug
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>>155001497
>"Such dark, unpleasant odorous horrors I've witnessed...NO"
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>>155000401
So we time jumped 2 years to November 2000 in the post credits scene because Creed won the election. So we kinda skipped over 1999...
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>>155001503
>y-you replaced me with another stacked token female mutant?
>a REDHEAD stacked token female mutant?!?!
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>>155001542
>So we kinda skipped over 1999...
Well, yeah, everyone was busy partying. Open a damn history book, son
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>>155001542
They're saving 1999 for Gargoyles.
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>>155001542
I didn’t notice that. Guess its X-Men 2000 now.
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I liked the season but they made Val Cooper a retard
>last season she’s a lawful neutral agent who saved Magneto and said he was right to combat Bishop
>now she’s incarcerating child mutants to “protect” them and refuses to trust the X-Men when they’re back
>spends the season justifying mutant hatred with propaganda
>does nothing to take care of Reed to prevent him from making mutant hostilities worse
She just became stupid on purpose. Unironically deserved what she got.
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>>155000770
Odd listing pietro and wanda here since they're not broterhood members in tas.
>>155001015
Not really?
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>Poking Beast
>“Do something. How are you less important than everybody else in the show?”
>Beast basically acts as a third for the sibling duo
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>>155001685
She also has that big moment where she says Magneto was right
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>Xavier is obsessed with getting revenge on Apocalypse for killing his boyfriend and mogging him
>Apocalypse just brute forces his way through the X-Men
>Celestials offer Xavier unspeakable power in exchange for his soul
>He accepts and turns into Onslaught
>Apocalypse is dead but now the X-Men have to figure out how to stop Onslaught
Would have made more thematic sense. Feels like Xavier got over things too quickly.
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Never read the comics but I did used to watch xmen cartoon as a kid. Someone tell me why Jubilee is getting screen time? All she can do is make gay little fireworks fly out her hands, she's a very very useless version of Gambit, why is this bitch getting so much screen time? Is she more powerful in the comics or some shit?
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>>155001879
You’re a power scaling tard. She’s there to be the one kid in a room full of adults. That’s her narrative role.
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>>155001879
She got a big push in the comics and games during the DEI era. Still a terrible character.
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>>155000770

Cute they listed her voice actress and both live action actresses as her aliases.
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>>155000770

Why do they keep blue balling us when it comes to giving us Onslaught?

They had such an easy layup with the whole Shrine of Celestial

Mystique and her brotherhood feel like a massive step back in stakes.
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>>155001927
Mystique will likely pull some shit, that leads to a bigger threat emerging.

That or the may finally introduce Destiny.
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>it's a rogue episode
>again
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>>155002021
Gladly take Rogue & Gambit over Jubilee & Sunspot.
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>>155001891
There are a load of other kids that could/should replace her, its a fucking school.
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They got rid of Nightcrawler so they can replace him with Blink.
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>>155001613
Was brought on to the team just so bishop had something to do. Or fuck in this case.
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>>155001910
did the same with magneto
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>>155002051
I remember that time period in the comics where they kept sidelineing him because the made pixie the team teleporter.
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Please let Val be dead. Fuck that simpering dumbass whore.
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>>155002051
They killed him off casue he and gambit fill the same role.
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So what was Polaris' purpose this season? What was Askani's purpose? What was Colossus's purpose? What was Cable's purpose?
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val cooper was built for bbc
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213 easter eggs you missed on the season finale
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>>155000797
Mystique is a Captain America tier operator when it comes to fighting and strategy making, but with the added danger that she has ZERO morals and is a habitual line crossing sociopath. And she holds grudges like a mother fucker, which combined with her being a shape shifter, means if you piss her off, she's going to ruin your life and the lives of your loved ones before she kills you.

It's why she historically is more dangerous a leader than Magneto.
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So what do you guys expect for the next season?
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>>155000770
Instead of Onslaught, we get this gay and lame Mystique. Ngl after Apocalypse feels like a step backwards.

Feels like a directive from the execs. Lawrence's Mystique was popular, so we definitely have to include her!
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>>155002194
>she has ZERO morals and is a habitual line crossing sociopath
She's a carpet muncher, they won't make her irredeemable, and you know it.
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>>155001879
She was the replacement kid insert character for Kitty when Kitty was in Excalibur jail with Nightcrawler. A lot of fans HATE Kitty, especially when her fanboys went into overdrive burying other characters but especially Jubilee in the 00s and 10s to make up for how Kitty got excluded from the 90s cartoon so this is those Jubilee fans/Kitty haters revenge in that Kitty is still barred from the 90s cartoon revival
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>>155000401
Episode was fine but didn't really feel like a finale. The season in general felt all over the place and setting up Mystique seems pretty whatever.
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>>155002238
X-Men 97 cartoon Mystique, like movie Mystique is a card carrying heterosexual woman. The only cartoon Mystique that was gay was the X-Men Evolution version as far as it being the only version where Destiny existed and the implication it had that Rogue not Kurt was the kid produced by Mystique growing herself a fully functioning cock and getting Destiny pregnant
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>>155001879
I'm more surprised by why Polaris is given so much screen time. She's completely unrelated to the Apocalypse plot, and yet she's been given a lot of attention in three episodes, while other characters could have used that instead.
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>>155000770
So they're doing DoFP again, just with Graydon instead of Kelly? Or... Mutant X?

Anyway, Graydon becoming the president is a bit odd, him being a natural born citizen of the US is in question. His father is Canadian and some statements he made implies he was raised in Canada by him. Mystique's nationality is unknown, in the original show they made it clear that she is indeed using various fabricated identities and in the comics at least her identity when giving birth to Graydon was a German. I get that as long as Graydon was born in the US he'd still qualify but the odds of that seem low.
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>>155001551
>Morph has used both Spider-Man and Doc Ock's forms for battle
God, stop teasing us already!
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>Cable solos both Scott and Jean with ease
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>>155002334
Cyclops is such a jobber this season. It's truly pathetic.
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Yeah, bring back the gay guy. His episodes were the only good ones this season; the rest were complete crap.
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>>155001927
Doing onslaught means removing Xavier from the table afterwards along with Scott and Jean, who retired afterwards due to them not wanting to clean up Xavier's mess.

>>155002306
More like some variation of Dark Reign.

For them to do Mutant X, you'd need Lorna being possessed by Malice and Havok hooking up with a version of Maddie who never met Scott and Vampire Storm/version of Angel who is a literal demon and a shadow over Insmouth type version of Beast that is straight up retarded. Not to mention Iceman, who is now irreversibly radioactive thanks to Bendis.

Also, ten gets you twenty we get Dark Reign next season with Creed as Osborn so the cartoon can have the X-Men fight some form of Avengers team to pander to anti Avengers ass hats, complete with John Walker leading them for added spite and malice
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Gambit looked pretty fresh despite rotting in the ground for all those months.
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Is it just me or were the fight scenes very choppy?
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>>155002464
>along with Scott and Jean
So what? The writers clearly didn't know what to do with them this season, so why not retire them?
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>>155002247
Kitty had a cameo in the board, she's 100 percent popping up.
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>>155002464
>Dark Reign
not the 90s
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I’d hate to see them do Schism because the conflict between the X-Men, X-Factor, and X-Force was so underbaked.
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>>155002464
>Doing onslaught means removing Xavier from the table afterwards along with Scott and Jean, who retired afterwards due to them not wanting to clean up Xavier's mess.

That implies they'll do what the comics did but this show doesn't do that. They do their own take .
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The wrote Nightcrawler out of the show too quickly.
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>>155002575
Gambit is more popular than Nightcrawler.
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>>155002589
I like having him back but was hoping to see them on the team together.
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>Cool robot man
>Murdered millions of dirty muties
>Wasn’t riding off the coattails of what he did in the original show
>Made Cable cry
>His master plan wasn’t going back in time to steal a C-List X-Man’s body
>We never saw his dead body so he’s probably still alive
Bring back CHADstion to save this show
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>>155002601
The team is already bloated with Polaris, Bishop, Forge, and Colossus. There's simply no room for Kurt.
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>>155002464
>Dark Reign next season with Creed as Osborn
I mean, yeah, Norman is trapped between dimensions or some shit, so obviously adapting that story with him is difficult. Still, kinda hard to imagine anyone but him as the villain.

>>155002497
X-Corp and Danger aren't from the 90's or earlier either but still went ahead and did that shit.
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>>155002093

Makes sense since Pixie can aoe teleport and Nightcrawler has to hold people
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>>155002589
You could have had both and just told Polaris and bishop to fuck off from the show.
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Those "New X-Men" costumes are lame af
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>>155002625
>X-Corp and Danger
And what was the purpose of X-Corp's existence this season? Borrowing elements from later storylines is not good; it just feels like a cheap callback. That's why this season failed.
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>>155002613
Then cut the kids and Morph's gay ass
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>>155002635
>Polaris and bishop
They both have to stay for whatever reason.

>>155002681
>Morph's gay ass
You know that this is impossible.
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>>155002609
>>155002625
Maybe he and Stormin' Norman are plotting their return in the Void
>>155001551
90s German Doc Ock, I knee.
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>Nightcrawler died
>Magik died
why do they keep killing of my favorite muties
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>>155002696
97 is such a misnomer
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I felt like I was watching an episode of What If.
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He can take on Bastion, Apocalypse and all of the X-Men put together.
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>>155002762
>Wesley....when I...was a boy...
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>>155002814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq8kPo3tyGY
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i am sorry but this season is pure trash
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>>155002846
Kurt carried it pretty hard.
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>>155002846
I'd still take it over American animated show made in the last 20+ years.
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>>155002469

It ain't just you, animation and fight choreography overall seemed to take a nose dive this scene.
I blame the fact that they are apparently animating seasons back to back now, to avoid long wait times.

However it's now causing them to prioritize quantity over quality
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>>155002743

>Feels like what if

Because it was what if. It was written by the same Hacks who gave us the abomination of a show
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>>155002846
I saw the reaction on twitter, and a lot of people liked the finale and the season overall. So you're in the minority.
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>>155002884
And not even a good quantity, nine episodes was not enough. It should be at least 12.
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Weird season. First 4 were amazing, maybe the best ever x men episodes. Then after episode 4 it really decreased in quality.

They spent the first 4 episodes making apocalypse into a dangerous and powerful villian, and then turned him into a weak jobber in the last 2 episodes. He really did nothing from episode 4 onwards. Wasted potential on him.
And wasnt there supposed to be two Apocalypse running around - the one from the future and present? Or is this another mistake by the writters?

And how did Apocalypse posses Gambit? Did Gambit actually fight and kill apocalypse? Or did apocalypse just simply posses gambit?

Why would the celestial spend all this time and energy in creating apocalypse to push the evolution of humans and mutants for only the celestial to turn on apocalypse and side with rogue because the power of love will help humanity advance more.

And its the second episode of rogue saves gambit with the power of love.
Sad that they killed night crawler like that, one of the coolest and best characters this season. But if they keep on killing characters and bringing them back each year then that will be lame.

What happenned to cables plot about being his destiny to kill apocalypse that was hyped all season?

How did rogue manage to enter the apocalypse chamber? Ok she had a bit of apicalypses power but then how did nightcrawler do it?

And finally the show doesnt know what it is: is it a mature show with deep plots or is it just another saturday morning cartoon where important stories are resolved at the end of one episode and the good guys always win.

All up, a dissapointing season considering how amazing it started.
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>>155002021
Hopefully this is the last time and Rogue and Gambit won't be the focus next season.
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>>155002920
I assume you're one of those fags on Twitter.
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Just retire Rogue and Gambit and have them go off and be lovers somewhere. We don't really need to explore their characters any further.
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Reintroducing Archangel, Psylocke, Colossus, and The Acolytes, I thought they were going to do an ep or two recreating some X-Men 1991 moments. Would've preferred that over that mess of a storyline with Gambit, Rogue, and Apocalypse.
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>>155003021
>What happenned to cables plot about being his destiny to kill apocalypse that was hyped all season?
According to DeMayo this storyline was supposed to lead into the events of AoA, but it was cut. So the Askani and all those future events ultimately led to nothing. Cable spent his entire life trying to do what Rogue did in a minute lol.
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>>155003027
Mystique is the set up villain, and kurt is dead.
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That Danger episode could have been an email
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>>155003085
So you're saying we have to put up with Rogue and Gambit yet again?
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>>155003085
Mystique is a giant step down from bastion and apocalypse.
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>>155003021
>What happenned to cables plot about being his destiny to kill apocalypse that was hyped all season?
Rogue didn't kill Apocalypse, she only managed to contain him.
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>>155003119
Don't worry, you'll have Magik and Danger soon.
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>>155003138
>Mystique is a giant step down from bastion and apocalypse.
She has sex appeal and has a large following among the LGBTQ+ community.
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>>155003164
What about Polaris? I want even more episodes about her.
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Really disappointed in this season.
I did enjoy it at times, but it was a far cry from how well season 1 was made. I have no idea how that jarring pacing was okayed, way too many things got introduced and resolved without giving the audience a chance to digest it. Most of the scenes felt disjointed, and there was a distinct lack of polish and finishing compared to s1. You can also tell at which point the old gay writer stopped being involved.

Really shitty that they just undid everything from season 1 within that short amount of time as well. Lost in time ? Wolverine's adamantium gone ? Gambit dead ? All resolved and too easily. The theme of this season was supposed to revolve around Apocalypse but bro was there only 5% of the runtime.

If they're rushing things to world build and reach where they want to reach to proceed under the new team's vision then so be it. But coming off an amazing season 1 this shit felt ass.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk
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Yeah, I think I'm out. I'll only come back if the next season gets praise from the fans, but that cliffhanger with Mystique didn't grab me at all. I was extremely hyped after s1 ended, but now I feel nothing.

After they fired the gay guy and hired the What If? writers, we knew it would end this way.
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>>155003340
The What If? writers haven’t even completely taken over, so imagine how bad next season will be.
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>>155003375
It's going to be even gayer than it was under the gay guy.
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Good morning sirs, I hate Rogue
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I thought the season was fine, most of the issues here were already present in the first season, and some are just setup by having so many diesperate setups.
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>>155003368
Wolv+Oc fight was the highlight for me. My boys got to have fun
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>no onslaught
>no ethan/reedemed en sabah nur
>no kurt and peter bromance
>cyclops and storm most important episode was the very first
>no danger return
>Illyana, maverick and exodus dying like bitches
>Val was not mystique already, she was seriously that stupid
Anons here said it right. The what if guy doesn't know what this show wants to be. Bring back demayo or suffer the consequences.
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>>155003664
>or suffer the consequences
DeMayo won't be involved in any way in s3, so we'll see how the What If? writers handle it.
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>>155003664
Magik dying was Demayo's idea
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>>155003739
She probably died in a cool way tho
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>>155001613
It's official. Havok got cucked by BBC.
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>>155003664
We could get Evan in a later season.

I suspect Apocalypse will also make a comeback as well, they went out of the way to seal not kill him.

One thing I don't understand is what happened to the Apocalypse from Cable's era. Was that the guy they've been fighting all season or was it present Apocalypse?
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>>155003789
>I suspect Apocalypse will also make a comeback as well, they went out of the way to seal not kill him.
He was already badly written and mishandled for the rest of this season, and you want them to retread? Fuck that.
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>>155003789
>in a later season
Bold of you to assume this show will last longer than four seasons. The ratings aren't that great.
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>>155003829
They need to finish Cable's story tho
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SSJ Rogue is really hot. It's funny that this is probably the skin that Marvel Rivals is going to go with on Sept 4 as their crossover material for the show
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The only highlight of the season was the X-Force opening
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>>155003925
>this is probably the skin
Nah, it's going to be X-Corp shit
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>>155003925
Why is she sponsored by Volkswagon?
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>>155003969
Cable and Domino are KISS fans.
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So that's it for the X-Corp? What was its purpose?
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>>155003789
Present apocalypse does not exist. In the original show he got lost in the nexus of time because of the x-men (and kang). The guy possessing gambit was future apocalypse which is younger than the apocalypse that got lost in time at the end of the original tas and while not at full strenght he got overpowered by remy. That is how I read it, but it really needed that extra episode to flesh out anything.
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season 1 - 9/10
season 2 - 6/10
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>>155004186
So that means Cable's AoA future is erased essentially.
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>>155000401
Those suits make everyone look fat
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>>155004186
This is like if they didn’t do a flashback to One Man’s Worth to explain Bastion’s origin.
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>>155002258
Seems like they were going off of whatever the "creative counsle" and disney execs wanted rather then had a cohesive vision.

>>155003171
It's now common knowledge that Mystique was born a man and serial rapes women men and is nightcrawlers father.
All sex appeal is gone and no one save for disney gives a fuck about the lgbtqa community. But they have the money and sociopathy to push a character with no appeal to the general audience what soever. Look at the shameful magneto glaze and making morph into a flamer.

>>155003368
Psylockes blade not working on wolverine was one of the dumbest fucking things on earth.
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>>155004186
>In the original show he got lost in the nexus of time because of the x-men (and kang).

But he came back like three episode later after possessing the body of Fabian Cortez in season 5. But if that Apocalypse fought Cable as an adult and was murdered by the Apocalypse who fled from child Cable in Remy's body...oh God, my head.
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>>155004220
Imo more like 8 and 7.
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>>155003664
>Setup so hard its going to be next season
>yeah
>we get a bit honestly
>yep
>sadly
>illyana is absolutely going to come back, the others yeah
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>>155003368
>>155004350
>Psylockes blade not working on wolverine was one of the dumbest fucking things on earth.
Yep. Dude's Mr. PTSD with centuries worth of conflicted memories and seemingly the most vulnerable to it. Did they pull that shit in the comics too?
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>>155004543
No, wolverine is very suspectible to mind control, he breaks out of it easier though.
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>>155002609
He is too good, morally and looking, to be a villain.
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>>155004543
Wolverine having no defense against powerful psychic attacks is the norm. Him combing back from attakcs that do serious mental damage is fast because healing guud is canon too.
It should have knocked him for a loop and hurt like fuck but it should have been like getting a stab wound through the gut for him.
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To the OP THANK YOU for posting these every week! You have been a life saver with these and I have searched for your post every Wednesday and without fail you have a link!

Hope you continue this when season 4 hits cause fuck Disney+ and I am not a fan of sketchy .tor sites so again thank you!!
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>>155003171
Neither make Mystique big enough to be a core main villain, she has always worked best as a mini-arc villain or as a right hand to the main saga villain. Mystique will definitely be revealed to be working with someone bigger in Season 3.
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>No one mentioning Siryn showed up
I don’t know why they keep doing these Easter eggs, because it’s not like they’re going to give us an X-Factor Investigations spinoff when there are only 9 episodes a season
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>>155005175
Ngl I would rather watch an X-Factor Investigations spinoff or a proper X-Force spinoff with Cable and Domino, than yet another episode about Polaris or Rogue.
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>>155005175
You know what else no one is mentioning? There's a sequence in the intro where Cyclops goes to shoot Apocalypse, but he grabs Angel instead and uses him to block the blast. Only Cyclops (who can obviously see this) just keeps blasting into his friend for like 2-3 seconds.
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>people still fooling themselves Onslaught is happening.

In the event Onslaught somehow happens in wherever, it is going to look as bizarre as it gets, the show is speed running through X-Men comic eras, deep in the 2000's already, Onslaught would be in what, some bizarre take of House of M?
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The utterly shoe horned and unearned "Uhh caring about people is your undoing." "No, uhh caring about people is what it's all about." message was a joke. Ok season, generally just about good, but a mess, with little of the magic from 1.
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>does nothing
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Vain asshole QuickSilver is such a fun character I’d like to see him show up next season following in his dad’s footsteps. Beau would have done this, but I don’t trust these “What If?” Idiots.
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I forgot about the What If writers, lmao fuck. This is really goodbye huh fellas.
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>>155005300
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>>155005300
I never got the impression Illyana loves Piotr as much he loves her.
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>>155005408
He absolutely wouldnt have, what are you saying.
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>>155005468
She clearly considers Scott her big brother, not Colossus
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>>155005300
Siscon
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>>155005300
It's like he's obsessed with her.
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>>155001141
>Onsl
The fired the gay guy pushing for it and other 90s plots
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It’s funny to see people clamoring for DeMayo’s return when this entire season followed his plan save for the season finale.
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>>155005673
I hace my doubts that's the case because he was very set on getting Onslaught in season 2
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>>155005673
Only the first four episodes remained unchanged. The rest were significantly rewritten.
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Bring this zesty nig back Disney
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>>155005704
>Onslaught slowly gaining control
Imo it’s more powerful Xavier to willingly accept Onslaught following Magneto’s death than it being a thing that infects him.
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>>155005704
So in the end only X-Force acted recklessly, with Xavier repeatedly scolding Cable and telling him that X-Corp would act without brute force.

X-Corp is just a cosmetic change, nothing more. Fuck What If? writers and fuck Disney.
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>>155005704
This sounds a lot more epic than "Look out! Mystique and fucking Toad are back!"
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>>155002916
Brian Ford Sullivan doesn't have a single credit on What If. You're hallucinating things to get mad about.
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>>155005704
>they get the Quietly uniforms AFTER he founds X-Corp
that makes much more sense
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>>155001015
People are complicating this too much. She's Betsy, a brit who's a ninja. There.
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>>155005837
Onslaught is too retarded and I'm glad they cut him for being so.
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>>155005694
>>155005703
Nah. He already told us what the OG season finale would be about.

>Rogue defeats ApocGambit.
>Xavier reveals himself as Onslaught, uses Apocalypse's ship to make his armor and attacks Graydon Creed's inauguration.
>The X-Men realize X-Corp is wrong, ditch the Quitely suits for the OG costumes, and team up with X-Force, X-Factor and the Avengers to fight Onslaught.
>Somehow this all results in an Age of Apocalypse cliffhanger.

Onslaught was gonna be a one-episode thing.
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The first 4 episodes were really good because they connected with s1 and had cohesive storytelling. Everything from ep5 onwards felt like it was rushed and pivoted to a complete different direction and used to setup S3.
This is why even original anime has upper hand over US animation. Even if the main writer can't work on the show the fucking plot is followed through instead of being thrown into the trash for a rushed timeline.
Season 3 is gonna be a shitshow
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>>155001542
Cue to abandon this ship. It was their intention all along.
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hank hill ass
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>>155001787
She released a terrorist who attempted a genocide in humankind and she's not suffered any consequence.
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>>155005703
A background artist from the show said that the middle episodes were the ones least changed, they had to delay work on the early ones because they needed additional script work.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1uh72ns/comment/oucoyhh/
>Season 2 was a tricky one!

>On one end, we had a lot of time to prepare for it. Generally, animation workers tend to take breaks between seasons, but we were lucky we rolled straight into season 2. That actually let us develop concepts for locations early on in the process. Usually that’s something only feature animation gets the time/money to do.

>On the other end, yes the season did change a lot. I feel like all the changes were made for the better, but it does mean a lot of work was cut from the show. I feel like we learned a lot from working that way and S3 has been a much less stressful season to work on.

>The other strange thing about S2 is we didn’t work on it linearly. You might see the episodes as episode 1, 2, 3, etc., by my head is still processing them as the order we developed them in. We started in the middle of the season and backtracked to the earlier episodes. It was quite an experience!
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>>155001891
She's an adult now too.
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>>155005897
>Season 3 is gonna be a shitshow
I don't know. S2 is a complete shitshow because the What If? writers had to rewrite so much. Season three will be practically a clean slate for them. And it will probably be an original story because the executives don't want adaptations.
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>>155002589
And yet, he did nothing and his return was so underwhelming.
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>>155005965
Check IMDb, there are no "What If" writers. They brought in Matthew Chauncey as a consultant, but it's not his show. It's actually the original showrunners, Larry Houston and the Lewalds, who have more of a say now.
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So will they still wear Quitely's uniforms in season 3?
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>>155002920
A bunch of people who liked it were stupid Romy shippers happy thst Rogue and Gambit are together even if the reunion makes little sense. Most people are disappointed, due to one reason or another.
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>>155003060
Retire Gambit, who shouldn't be more time with a cheating whore who caused him to be dead in first place.
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>>155003119
Welcome to the horror that is following the current comics. It's all "omg they're fucking!" as if they haven't been fucking since 1999.
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>>155003605
The most I read about Rogue the most I wonder why Gambit made the stupid mistake of dropping his hottie wife. Then I remember Marvel only cares to please shippers and then it all makes sense.
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>>155005704
Yeah. I'm out. You fags can suffer through what-if? writers retardation in season 3
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>>155005932
Anon, that text reads like a PR stunt to save face.
2026 and mfs are believing disney sponsored interview
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>>155006217
"Changes were made for the better" is a subjective call. And it's more likely than not that work on season 3 was much easier going than season 2 because now they were unified behind a single vision rather than making last minute changes to someone else's.
Disney did not tell her to lie about the order in which the episodes were made. She doesn't even get into the why of it, that's something you have to figure out through context.
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>nightcrawler the most consistent, wholesome, and best character for two seasons in a row
How does he get away with it?
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>>155002609
Isn't he technically Nimrod from the original show?
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>>155003925
It's already confirmed to be wasteland Wolverine Storm and Jean
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I'm expecting wolverine wank and a shit ton more woman strong shit with everyone else i might like either getting ignored or jobbing like crazy like cyclops. Their hands where tied this season trying to wrap up shit that gaymayo started but I have no hope of it being any better season 3.
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>>155001879
She's using her gay little fireworks in ways that comics Jubilee never has or completely forgot she could

She's combining her skating with rocket boosters so she can move faster than anyone this side of a speedster
She can't fly but she can use explosions to maneuver in the air and course correct
She's been making these giant energy shurikens that can slice through Bastion

She's basically Bakugo
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>>155003119
Rogue and Gambit are cute together but they're probably not going to be the main focus anymore, since more relationship drama is just going to end up being a rehash or cringe.
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>>155005703
Nah, most of the stuff wrong with this season (adding two other x-teams that really add very little, adding MORE characters to the core roster, splitting the x-team) are all his idea.
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>>155006014
Probably the astonishing ones.
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>>155000401
>Tease Onslaught for 2 whole seasons
>Do nothing with it
>X-Factor are barely characters, they collectively have like, 2 lines of dialogs all season except Polaris
>Siren is there now for some reason, who cares
>Polaris gets a focus episode about her becoming stronger and does fuckall the rest of the season
>NO ONE comments how fucked up it is for X-Force to bring fucking Sentinels to Genosha
>Are Cyclops and Havoc even aware they're brothers?
>Apparently the Eternal is ok with taking just anyone's life for any deal, he doesn't really care, whatever
Was this slop AI-written?
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>>155006947
More then likely.
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>>155001411
Lmao no, she's just fodder for filler skirmishes with other nobodies from the other team, nothing she does matters
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>>155006947
There were no outright Onslaught teases in season 2, those were removed with the rewrites. You saw some vestigial elements that were allowed to remain.
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>>155005704
Suddendly a lot of shit make sense now. Well it was fun while it lasted.
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Season 2 was so fucking mid.
i dont even remember the danger episode anymore it was forgetable
i just remember the first 3 episodes and

>>155006947
i guess the sacrifice was no more nightcrawler

the season was so mid like holy moly

s3 better to be better
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>>155000401
It was ok. I think the season needed to be longer to really make the storyline and character relationships mean something
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>>155007016
also wolverine episode was fun and memorable s3 needs to do those episodes, bring juggie back etc...
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Nobody actually likes Bishop
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>>155006333
Nimrod infected his father's balls with Sentinel DNA, Bastion is Nimrod's son à la Terry being Bruce's son.
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>>155002628
Yeah but those weren't her original abilities. They just gave them to her so they could use her that way and ignore her original powers.
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>>155007242
They basically made her a completely different character
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>>155006970
Fuck
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>>155006947
>Siren is there now for some reason, who cares
She was in the trailer and just showed up for like one minute. Fuck this.
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>>155003021
You can tell exactly when Demayo left.
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in the opening you can see mystique working with apocalypse so i bet s3 will have him back
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>>155007322
She went from drug dusting people to writers trying to turn her into mini magik
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>>155006947
>Was this slop AI-written?
Worse. What If? writers.
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Episodes 1 - 4 compared to episode 5 onwards is so glaringly night and day that you can tell when the old team went out and the new team went in. I actually think episode 5 was also written by the old team but it felt poorly placed. They've already admitted that it changed episode slots multiple times.
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>>155007485
She also went from tiny little girl in retard helmet to class stacy because greg land traces porn stars
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>>155007063
I like Bishop, but after they finished his role of bringing the xmen back, he existed solely to fuck Polaris. He had a bit of a development in the comics of being fish our of water due to not understanding the era and finally giving up trying to kill Gambit.
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>>155007016
>s3 better to be better
Have you seen What If?
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>>155002920
Leddit seems to hate it
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>>155006947
>Are Cyclops and Havoc even aware they're brothers?
No. But perhaps they learned it offscreen. Just as Polaris learned she was Magneto's daughter offscreen.
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>>155007063
I like Bishop, though he is contributing to the "too many characters" problem.
>>155007459
No you can't because he was fired after all the season two scripts were turned in. The first two episodes received such extensive rewrites that he's not credited on them at all.
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>>155003021
this s2 sucks and s3 will suck too
it's cartoon for adultsd but now the audience is reddit man-children
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>>155007523
https://theplaylist.net/x-men-97-season-2-larry-houston-eric-lewald-julia-lewald-interview-20260703/
>Larry Houston: When Eric, Julia, and I got brought on as consultants for “X-Men ’97,” we were more like the very first audience. The shows were pretty close to being done, and we could give them our reactions, what we thought of this or that, how things were going, what we thought could be changed or adapted. Now we’ve all been elevated to executive producers, so we’re higher up in the food chain. We’re actually involved with plots, initial storylines, guest stars, and direction way before it becomes full scripts and animatics. That’s the difference.

>Eric Lewald: This season, we’re just a notch more involved. After the first season, everybody loved what happened with it, and we were so thrilled with how good it was, because these things usually don’t work out. Remakes are usually terrible. Then they asked us to be more involved, to get in a little earlier in the process with the showrunner, the stories, and the details. It’s just been one notch up.
The brutal reality is that the original X-Men team kinda sucked. They ruined Gargoyles when they inherited that from Greg Weisman.
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>>155007645
>The first two episodes received such extensive rewrites that he's not credited on them at all.
The episode about young Nathan and the future was incredibly disappointing. For me, it was the most interesting part of s1 cliffhanger, but this entire plotline was resolved in just one episode. The Askani plotline went nowhere, and we didn't even learn Rachel's true identity.
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>>155007730
The Phoenix fire was suitable as a hint but it was a bit of a missed opportunity for her to not acknowledge them as her parents after they left, no need to get into her entire history.
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>>155007730
Also what the fuck happened to future Apocalypse going back to the 90's? As far as I'm aware, the one we fight the rest of the season is the contemporary one, not the mysterious future one that might not even be the real Apocalypse, or might be a new host.
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>>155007708
I think what's also a contributing factor to this season being a mess is the sheer amount of creative oversight involved.

>Chauncey
>Houston and the Lewalds
>Marvel and Disney execs
>counting DeMayo, six writers in charge of nine episodes

genuinely too many cooks for such a short episode count, having this many people involved only works if you're working with 26 episodes or more
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>>155002238
A retcon no one asked for. Like her shitting out Nightcrawler
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>>155008196
Claremont was writing her gay for Destiny back in the 80s, but Shooter's wariness about Marvel getting blacklisted from merchandise and licensing deals meant he could only use a little known word like "leman."
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>>155007475
I think that's just a reference to them working together in the old show.
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>>155005704
This is way better. I think it may be time to drop the show.
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>>155006544
I refuse to believe he would give Madlyn and Storm their original outfits but not Gambit his BDSM Death gear.
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>>155008302
>wolverine front and center
yeah its really over going forward
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>>155006027
>Cheating
She actually broke up with him before doing anything.
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>>155008572
would you prefer bishop and his bbc to be in front?
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>>155008314
Shooter was right.
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>>155006544
Xmen has always been lousy with extra characters from the books and marvel in general being dropped into the episodes.
The problem isn't adding new characters.
The problem is in the writing and failed execution.
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>>155008906
Look at you, suddenly on favor of censorship.
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>Rogue gets to defeat the big bad with the new power up bestowed onto her
>S3 is going to deal with the Brotherhood of Mutants, Mystique, and Destiny (latter two was confirmed by the writers leading up to the final episode of this season)
>Surge seems to be the Jubilee of the crew and will undoubtedly be groomed by Mystique similar to Rogue's upbringing with the woman
Rogue is turning into a little shoujo protagonist and receiving more character development compared to other X-Men in the show. You know I'm kinda here for it.
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>>155003925
I get the feeling Rogue is the writers favorite
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>>155000401
>Reddit hates the final episode
>Twitter loves it
What did I think of it?
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>>155009603
She did like, one thing
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>>155009603
She's the female audience's fav because they think they're also emotionally untouchable and the hot guy would do everything to reach them.

>>155010260
She did two things: the most important one and get the hot guy (read above)
The reality is, she lost being an interesting character once she started fucking Gambit.
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>>155009535
She's due for a big come down and I know just what Chekhov's Gun from the original run should deliver it.
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>>155010387
all carol fags must hang.
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Doesn't Rogue beat Apocalypse in X-Men Evolution too?
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Wow, that was fucking terrible.
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>>155010090
It's conspicuous as day the season was marred with continuity problems with departure of deMayo and rewrites that had to steer course away from his original ideas leading up to S3 which is why arcs like Bone Logan had to be cut short. I take it this season as another soft reboot to get away from the ideals of the lead writer since it'd make no sense to go with Onslaught and AoA without him, inevitably fucking up S2 and S3 so you might as well make S2 the odd one out to start anew. With that said, I definitely enjoyed the season in its entirety compared to some other who're outrightly calling it ass or "what-if" adjacent remarks. Excited to see what the future holds for this series going forward.
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>>155010341
>she lost being an interesting character once she started fucking Gambit.

What was her character before xmen'97.
What storyline or thing about her did you like and that she is famous for.

I'll wait.
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>>155010819
She was interesting while she had that sexual tension with Remy. Once they had sex, there was no really use for her that made her different from any other random mutant.
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>>155010819
>>155010848
It's weird to question Rogue's character arc when we're heading towards a Mystique/Brotherhood season which will heavily involve her no doubt
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>>155010898
Anon, she was an in canon ugly street rat that looked like a 50 year old when she first showed up in the brotherhood.
The white hair wasn't a design choice. She was just old.
Claremont only made her a young hot and cool rogue in later installments and she only became a bombshell and likeable as a character after she absorbed Ms.Marvels powers personality and apparently her body(most notably her pawg status).
No one cares about her relationship with mystique or time in the brotherhood. it's just an interesting tidbit that can be dug up for a little bit of drama.
Anything more then that is a massive fuck up. Like the thing with Magneto that everyone hated. Which was probably ordered by disney execs.
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>>155010848
The tension was popped with the terrible love triangle and her then going off with magneto again.
It was not good. They could have reignited that will they won't they thing by having gambit get amnesia and or be distant from her and even give up on being in a relationship with her.
Leading to him hitting on everything in a skirt and some in hot pants while she seethes or confronts him.
Leaving that will they won't they will gambit ever forgive rogue drama on the table was a stupid decision.
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>>155011392
She wasn't old, just haggard. When she showed up at the mansion, she had already absorbed Ms. Marvel's powers, that's why she came to them in the first place The issue itself where it was supposed to happen wasn't published because Ms. Marvel had been cancelled because of low sales. They did get around to it in the 90s with a different artist.
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>>155011442
Gambit could have remained in Louisiana getting better before going back to the X-men. That sorta happened in his solo after Antarctica and he broke up with Rogue too. Of course, I'm sure they just forced this reunion because the pair is popular and they needed fans. No one will convince me otherwise.
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>>155007559

the bride of frankenstein pixie was cute
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>>155004921
No problem bro. I'm very elated to torrent shows I'm interested in and spread it's content for purpose of further discussion on this board. Hope you tune in for YFNSM S2 watch threads as I'll be sure to host those when the season comes out in Fall
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>>155000401
Show fell off a cliff after they fired gaynigger.
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I can't believe this and season 1 are the same show. This season was just an aimless turd floating in a toilet bowl.
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>>155007073
>Sentinel DNA
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>>155006994
>There were no outright Onslaught teases in season 2, those were removed with the rewrites
Bro they kept the fucking visual hints
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>>155009535
>Rogue gets to defeat the big bad with the new power up bestowed onto her
By touching him. No big fight, she just touches him.
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>>155000770
Missed chance to give Destiny a cameo here.
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>>155005879
She looks Asian though. Also remember that the original series had a cameo of Kwannon as a psychic.
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>>155012880
That's a shadow. They decided it wasn't worth removing the shadow. It possibly didn't even register as a reference.
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>>155001613
The fuck is up with the haircut of that girl?
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>>155000401
Soulless garbage. Not even the same show



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