>entire show is ugly woke slop>one character is pure sex
>>155008288You will die a virgin who never even kissed a girl.
>>155008288Define woke.
>>155008288>one character is not uglyFtfy. That's inferior to damn near every previous Catwoman.
>>155008288>>155008307No you wont anon dont let the DEImons demoralize you go find your catwoman.
>>155008319They made Harley fat and brown
>>155008434>They made Harley a caramel slampig And that's bad because . . . ?
>>155008343>DEIMonsin reality its alpha male chuds who tell you to hate women 24/7
>>155008319>Define wokeCultural marxism>what is cultural marxismmarxist theory and principles applied to culture. >what is marxist theory?>what culture? See pic related.
>>155008561So you define words by using other made up words not used by experts or understood by anyone who understands basic English that don't really have a definition anyone can follow other than it's something you personally hate or you find Progressive and therefore don't like it.With no historical or scientific basis to calling these evil or bad other than you find it different than what you want things to be.
>>155008561>calls critical theory "cultural marxism">says others are playing dumb"Woke" is clearly gender/race/postcolonial theory and not Marxist theory. Marxist theory like Adorno has more in common with Kierkegaard and Nietzche than liberal idpol.
>>155008586>So you define words by using other made up words not used by expertsAll words are made up but, we use them to describe things and ideas. And I have a definition for the word in which I used to describe it. Also you’re appealing to authority. Saying that “experts” do not use something is irrelevant to whether or not something is correct or incorrect. >understood by anyoneAd populum? So far you’re just showing that when face with people who know what they’re talking about you devolve into spewing logical fallacies. >don't really have a definition anyone can followI gave a definition for cultural marxism, and now (as I correctly predicted) you have to pretend not to understand it and ignore it all together. >other than it's something you personally hateLet’s add strawman to the list now. >With no historical or scientific basisScience has little to nothing to do with this since it is a matter of socio-political ideology and philosophy. And as for history cultural marxism is something which has been recorded and is known despite the best efforts of certain people to hide that fact from the general public. https://web.archive.org/web/20111208120949/http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
>>155008334No
>>155008666>calls critical theory "cultural marxism"Because it is Satan, the reason it’s marxist is because it applies the same fatalistic dichotomy of haves and have nots. Only instead of ideas of proletariat and bourgeoisie, it is oppressed and oppressor/privileged. And they all end up running in the same circles and using the same tactics to propagate. Gramsci was one of the retards who started this after the failure of the revolution to spread into Western Europe.
>>155008319It’s just easier than typing amateur, cringe and faggy
>>155008677 Basically calling yourself an expert but actually call and recognize experts in a few about something who do not use your words and terminology when you call something like you call something woke that has a very deliberately vague definition from person to person other than other words that are not used by experts also that have very very definitions to define the word you just use you're trying to sound like I'm better than anyone who's in a recognize expert on the subject or qualified on the subject because I use words they do not so don't listen to them listen to my uninformed uneducated opinion on the matter.
>>155008319Whatever I dislike
>>155008798>literal appeal to authoritylollmao even
>>155008561>be vague>give no real answer>act conceited to pretend you won
>>155008561>>155008798 Why is this cultural Marxism supposed to be Marxism and supposed to be evil by improving the lives of people who have been deliberately mistreated and holding those who done so accountable who clearly what deliberately doing so to hurt others and benefit themselves?
>>155008798I can barely understand your ESL rambling so I will address what I can pick out. >Basically calling yourself an expertNowhere in my last post was this implied let alone said. You’re making things up because you can’t argue what I have actually said. I get you need to rely on authority to get by but resorting to the same logical fallacy isn’t going to work. >that has a very deliberately vague definitionIt doesn’t, I gave a clear definition and you are now ignoring it because if you were to address you would end up being wrong. So now you have to play dumb to create a stalemate scenario so you can tell yourself you didn’t lose.
>>155008867who decides what is and isn't mistreatment
>>155008867>samefagging>still playing dumbWhy is always the same pathetic shit with you mutants?
>>155008561>>155008918Can you please provide tangible examples as they apply to current comics and cartoons? Something like:>X is an example Y because its directly influenced by this marxist theory pillar, the theory of ZIt would help us understand why certain things would be considered woke.
>>155008982Mutants?
>>155008319any progressive looking or sounding thing
>>155009002>Can you please provide tangible examples as they apply to current comics and cartoonsYou mean aside from the one which this whole debate started from? You keep showing that all you can do is play ignorant. You’re not using the Socratic method because you openly ignore and never address anything that contradicts your shit. You just keep going into more absurd feats of feigned ignorance. >what is woke>what’s is cultural marxism>how is it marxist>what are examplesBut all of this shit has been given already and you’re just pretending it’s not there so you can continue and not have to admit your wrong because your ego won’t let you. >>155009006Spiteful mutants, yes.
>>155009071>Spiteful mutants, yes. I hate to tell you this but we're not in the world of Marvel or any X-Men franchise.
>>155008814Only honest person in the thread.
>>155008434Its greatest sin; yes.
>>155008465She lesbians.
>>155008839>ask for definition >get definition >also get preemptively called out for playing dumb>play dumb anyway and prove point>continue to play dumb and samefag to cope
>>155009071You didn’t explain why you think it’s “woke” beyond just not liking it. What specific actions or elements in the cartoon make it “woke,” and in what way? Simply complaining about cartoons or comics being “woke” doesn’t clarify the issue—it just shows you dislike it and are using the term to label something as a problem. How can we know it’s not simply a matter of personal taste, where you call it problematic or immoral just because you don’t enjoy it?
>>155009094Based
>>155009071>You mean aside from the one which this whole debate started from? You keep showing that all you can do is play ignorant. You’re not using the Socratic method because you openly ignore and never address anything that contradicts your shit. You just keep going into more absurd feats of feigned ignoranceYeah I picked up on this as well.Some person kept demanding more evidence that there is an anti white agenda in media right now. Like 8 posts of "but why" postsHe stopped once I explained there doesn't have to be some quaeritated group pulling the strings for something to be true
>>155009147The word white wasn't even used in this conversation before now or this or was somehow anti-white in this conversation before now.Also you think there's some sort of evil white agenda but that doesn't need to be anyone pulling anything in order for there to be a white agenda or anyone behind anything for anti white agenda? Do you consider if white people are not constantly at the top being made delivery better than everyone else and the circumstances better than anyone else then it's an evil anti white agenda doing so that needs to be brought down in the name it somehow being woke or cultural Marxist for anything to be not whites at the top?
>>155009071They made Harley fat and brown, thats the example ur talking about? Its the only one I see directly mentioned in the thread.Ok, what part of marxist theory applies to making harley fat and brown?
>>155009224Look at what they did to my GOAT y'all..
>>155009246 Different cartoon than OP image.
>>155009130What are you not understanding? If you understand the definition and what I have said you would already know how it’s woke.
>>155009264I know I'm trashing on Caped Crusader's Harley. Harley Quinn TAS is great.
>>155009224Thank you for showing that you know what is being talked about.>Ok, what part of marxist theory applies to making harley fat and brownHarley is not a fat brown character, she was change specifically to subvert and challenge norms of traditional beauty and race. They could have made a new character but instead they chose to take a preexisting character and alter them in an attempt to normalize and push their ideas of how characters should be portrayed. And if you want to argue why that isn’t the case then explain why they didn’t just keep her the same? Why not just keep her as she has always been and appeared?
>>155009224fat and brown people are an oppressed underclass so we need to remedy that by giving them more representation
>>155009336Not him but.Isn't this the same cartoon where the Penguin is turned into a grandma crime boss with multiple children? What kind of political agenda might be at play in changing Harley Quinn from a psychotic killer into a thin white person? In most continuities, she’s already portrayed as part of a minority, which is arguably one of the smaller minorities among almost all skin tone groups.
>>155009206Cope
>>155008288Blackbra Gordon is hot too
>>155009396>What kind of political agenda might be at playWomen are categorized as part of the oppressed class in cultural marxist dogma. So to rectify that they will take replace male characters with female ones or do gender swaps, the same goes for shit like race. >What kind of political agenda might be at play in changing Harley Quinn from a psychotic killer into a thin white personShe was already a psychotic killer, they just made her brown and fat because brown and fat people are another part of the “oppressed” groups and combining them all together creates the ultimate oppressed person rep beacon to challenge all kind of white male heterosexual norms. Also be sure to make them just as if not more competent than the protagonist they cannot be inferior to them or anyone who is not on or higher of the oppression totem pole. But keep pretending not to understand this and show how pathetic you can get as I keep explaining everything and you keep jumping to the next thing never challenging or attempting to address anything I say.
>>155008747Just say 'I don't like it' its much simpler.
>>155008867How's that working so far? and how do you hold the dead accountable?>>155009467it is hilarious since they are actually a slight majority, due to higher male mortality from conception onward.in any case, the issue with this show is more that they made it set in olden times yet they used today-times standards, and that makes no sense. If you want to represent the oppression of the time period, you have to make it accurate, and not make them district attorneys and shit
>>155008681YesHer only attractive trait is she's not built like a fridgeShe's still pretty terrible lookingFrom a design perspectiveAnd as an in universe 'femme fatal'
>>155009246The Harley Quinn cartoon is equally, if not more, trash than Caped Crusader.
>>155009107>>get definitionYou gave none, you just threw buzzword after buzzword and acted like it made sense
Catwoman is one of the worst Batman characters.Don't know how shitheads hype her up after that bullshit with Tom King and all the other fuckery she's done.
>>155010415nah you're just a hater.
>>155012033I am a hater. I watched three seasons of that shit before I couldn't stand it any more.
>>155008561Ever since this tweet went viral, rightcucks always pull it as an instant win card whenever they're giving people bullshit and they don't eat it.
>>155008319Anything with women not treated as objects of desire, minorities that are not dumb criminals, and gays that aren't ridiculed or nonexistent. The most unwoke show would be nothing but straight white men of Christian faith with the occasional sexy woman that falls in love with the lead and then disappears when she's no longer useful, preferably so she can go to the kitchen and make everyone dinner.
>>155012276>the occasional sexy woman in love with the lead and then disappears when she's no longer useful>having females at allPure SJW basedboi cuck shit. Stories are for MEN ONLY.
>>155012308NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>155012232No it’s posted whenever you retards start playing dumb. And then you piss and cry about it being bad only to show it’s being used exactly as intended. Don’t want to see it? Stop acting like a toddler.
This culture war shit is a smokescreen. Its a class war. Yet they got us arguing over cartoons, not why pay is shrinking and goods, services and healthcare are getting more expensive and worse.
