Why was this show only ordered 6 episodes to start out with while Doug and Rugrats got 13? I have a feeling certain Nick execs were not sure about Ren and Stimpy in comparison.
You answered yourself. The other two were deemed the safer bets. Specially Doug.
>>155009118Good thing it was a massive success and changed animation forever!
>>155009183I'm starting to wonder if it led to the current downfall >The show reintroduced board driven cartoons which has been a detriment to most that use it these days>John was one of the first flash animators which led to even shittier animation being normalized>Ren and Stimpy led to the creation of Rough Draft Korea which just enabled further outsourcingWe're honestly right back where we started before the late 80s
>>155009118Had they ordered 13, John would have been fired even sooner.
>>155009447None of that happened overnight, though. That's like saying the success of Tom & Jerry was bad because eventually Hanna & Barbera made some terrible shit. It leaves out a lot of necessary details.
They should make Dougrats
>>155009118You’re just trying to bait that one John K schizo aren’t you?
>>155009543>Literally one of the most influential kids cartoons of all time>Totally can't affect future showsAnd yes, I also blame Simpsons for enabling zombie shows and endless stiff family sitcoms and other lazy adult animation
>>155009118That's literally it. Ren & Stimpy was seen as the risk. When it was a hit, Nickelodeon asked for 20, but John insisted on 13, and he dragged his feet so hard on those 13 that they had to fire him.
>>155009447Don't forget that he went to bat for Rebecca Sugar of all people
>>155009646She had potential if she didn’t surround herself with gay wokesters who she barely prevented from putting their ships into the show
>>155009573>Totally can't affect future showsThat's not what I'm saying, though. I'm arguing that R&S had a net-positive effect of 90s animation, and holding it directly responsible for animation falling off as a whole over the last 15-20 years seems extreme and reductive.
>>155009447Its long-term influence was negative but short-term it was a major contributor to all of the good stuff from the 90s and 00s in the first place. It also wasn't the only factor that contributed to the downfall, I'd argue a bunch of stuff that happened between the years 2006 and 2008 were far more responsible.
>>155009118>Another John K thread. >Guy and Poopschizo are sure to spam here.
>>155010033Is there a reason R&S attracts the mentally ill?Even spumdonor comes off as slightly unhinged
>>155010071The show itself was a psychodrama during John's runAlso, John get metoo'd broke a lot of people.
>>155010033Could be worse, in /vr/ of you point out the obvious AI training bot threads, you get banned.