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>I have no one
>You have me
In the end, what defeated Jean Grey was Peter Parker’s compassion, not Spider-Man’s powers.
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What is it about this ship that caused a surge of fanart in Japan? If it keeps at this rate Peter will directly overtake Scott in Japanese pairing art with Jean Grey based solely on this film.
In America there isn't really this much of a push but in Japan it's almost universal.
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>>155023461
>In the end, what defeated Jean Grey was Peter Parker’s compassion, not Spider-Man’s powers.
I notice this seems to be a repeating trend in Marvel movies where the villain is too strong to stop so you have to defeat them with friendship
Red Hulk was too strong for Sam in Brave New World so he had to calm him down and appeal to his good nature to make him stop Hulking
Void was too strong for the Thunderbolts so they have to hug Bob until he calms down and stops Voiding
Love and Thunder Gorr outright wins but is convinced by Thor to remember the compassion of his daughter and wish her back instead of killing more
Multiverse of Madness they give Wanda exactly what she wanted all along only for her to realize it was never obtainable and she kills herself
And now Brand New Day Jean is way too strong to stop so the only way to win is being nice to her
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>>155023490
Because it's just Shinji and Asuka again.
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>>155023490
its all asian countries really even sea, people will point to the ending theme but really there are just more artists there. I know so many people with day jobs who draw like pros. Same as how ever asian plays an instrument.
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>>155023598
The sniper shot probably would've done the job, and before that the inhibitor chip did just fine.

I think the moral of the story isn't that compassion was the only way, just that it was the better way.
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I was joking before but at this point does this ship have more art than miles gwen? If not how far does it need to go?
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>>155023490
>Rivals dynamic
>Story about Boy & Girl facing the loneliness crisis and finding solace on each other by the end
>Movie Credits (there) ends with a love song
My best guesses.
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>>155023490
Spiderman is absurdly popular, they have an anime sibling/roamntic dynamic, they have better chemistry than he and la creatura and its japan so they have liek 500x the artists and they arent retarded with all the 'muh age gap' bullshit.
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>>155023490
Nips are based. The West needs to follow their example.
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>>155023598
The phrase 'kill them with kindness' exists for a reason.
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This is also like the first marvel movie after a long ass drought btw. If you don't count ff and thunderbolts(a team nobody knows).
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Jean didn't want t Peter to die. That was the most luxurious mind reading she ever experienced. Like tasting a gourmet meal after eating the disgusting expired junk of the common brain. Jean tasted a person who is pure of heart, but not unrealistically so. She got reminded that people aren't monsters. There are people you can trust.
I think people might misunderstsnd the ending as "people will love you no matter what" but I took it more as "Don't give up on the world, because there are people out there who will love you"
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>>155023630
No, that can't be ri-
>remember how shitty Asuka was to Shinji
>remember their ending together is mercy and understanding after mind meld
Oh, OH
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Weathering with You is a romance movie in Japan even though there isn't a single "I love you" or kiss in the movie. It's the actions as the hero risks everything to save the girl that makes it a romance film.

I want you more than any blue sky.
By Japan standards Zootopia is a tsundere romance
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>>155023677
Jean is about to change that phrase to "take me with kindness"
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If Jean goes to Xavier's, her room needs to be filled with Spider-Man merch, and she needs to scoff at any kid who thinks their favorite hero is better than Spider-Man.
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Still no art or AI of Sadie Jean doing the MJ jackpot tiger pose
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>>155023738
Kek
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I fucking love her. I want her to have her own series with Purple Man as her main antagonist/mentor figure.
Their abilities are perfect contrast to each other's
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>>155023768
>I fucking love her.
Peter...
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So is this it? Is this how they finally go to kill off Mary Jane for good in peoples minds?
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>Gets replaced by a snarky Daria clone played by an actor who doesn't resemble her
>She gets turned into Lois Lane in the Snoy games
>She gets overwritten by Jean as Peter's default ginger love interest
Marvel fucking HATES Mary Jane
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>>155023780
>Marvel fucking HATES Mary Jane
We've known this since OMD.
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>>155023777
It took Jean for me to accept that it's okay if Peter doesn't end up with Mary Jane even though part of the appeal of MCU SpiderPhoenix is that Jean is the closest to Mary Jane analogue than fucking Michelle.
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>>155023630
>happens again after the Doomsday/Secret Wars reboot only this time Peter fucks up and triggers the apocalypse almost immediately and Jean becomes gay with Emma
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>>155023798
Michelle is sociable. Jean is a psycho. Appearance wise, Jean looks like traditional Mary Jane but she acts a hell of a lot different which is the unique thing to me if the rare chance that they flirt with the idea of making them a pair; If she was to become Peter's girlfriend she'd be the most sociopathic and morally grey (heh) one. Not even Felicia is as morally bankrupt.
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>>155023798
The only thing jean has in similarity to Mary Jane is her look in this movie, otherwise MJ would not do the shit Jean did or anything close to that.
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>>155023768
>own series with Purple Man as her main antagonist
Same. What a waste of Tennant and the character to off him in season 1.
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>Michelle remembers the necklace
>Ned remembers the bro handshake
>Hulk remembers Peter
Tick tock Jeanfags.
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>>155023848
Right? He could commit a series of crimes and have Spidey track Jean because he thinks she's at it again only to get controlled by Purple Man, which is how they all learn it wasn't Jean.
She may rescue him and from there it begins.
>Ignore the X-men, Phoenix and cosmic shit. Leave that for an Avengers crossover
>There is no Xavier institute, Jean remains a hood rat struggling to make ends meet and starts the show with the barest form of telepathy and telekinesis strong enough to move a coin a few inches by extreme concentration. Her main skill keeps being possessing people
>Jean arrives to a city and hoping to prevent others from feeling the loss she suffered, tries her hand at superheroics and keep trying to track the guy who murdered her sister
>Turns out she's pretty bad at it and struggles with not going overboard (how does Peter do it?)
>Catches the attention of a charming man who she can't easily read and control
>He proposes to teach her how to become a proper superhero and shows her that he has a very similar ability to hers to make people obedient
>Starts teaching her how to use her abilities but his ruthless methodology clashes with the example Peter set
>She ends up rejecting him, after which she learns that he actually wanted to harness her abilities as a weapon
>She sets to catch him but he parallels Jean in his use of people as meatshields and makes them commit crimes
(CONT)
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>>155023871
>Show turns into a police series with Jean trying to capture him but struggles because he is too skilled and she has to concede moral ground to get the upper hand
>Peter joins shortly after to support Jean and through their relationship get closer to capture the villain
>The series shows them starting to date and the mushy parts of their relationship as contrast to the gruesome detective cases Jean solves
>Show ends in climatic scene where he puts Peter in danger and Jean has to resist the urge to kill in order to win. She manages to defeat the villain but barely thanks to the power of love and Peter's help, representing the death of the old Jean by capturing the villain instead of resorting to murder
>Peter congratulates her for her growth and they watch the sunset
>Symbiote arc starts here! >>154979628

Also Jessica Jones collaborates in some cases although she displays an inherent hatred for Jean
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>>155023490
>Jap Song
I know love through knowing loneliness
Using all five senses, saving you
Means saving me too
After all, we're just people connecting

Beyond an "I-I-I-I love you"
I'm not alone anymore
Clear the darkness by being upbeat
I hold your words in my heart, yeah

(Beyond an "I-I-I-I love you")
(I'm not alone anymore)
(Clear the darkness by being upbeat)

And when the wounds in my heart have already started to hurt
What will you save with this sacrifice?
It's all completely inevitable
My righteousness lies here

Breathe, be aware
That the cruel pain of living has a meaning
While believing at the same time
That nothing can be done
And I fight again today

Take me by surprise
I just keep myself updated
I sing and swing in the rain
I hold your words in my heart

A dream of a person wrapped in a cocoon
Shaking hands with hope
Looking in the mirror once again
At a brand new me

Beyond an "I love you"
I'm not alone anymore
Clear the darkness by being upbeat
I hold your words in my heart

Take me by surprise
I just keep myself updated
I sing and swing in the rain
I hold your words in my heart

Beyond an "I love you", ooh
I'm not alone anymore

Yeah no way this can't be seen as a love song.
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>>155023777
Have her say 'Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot!' to Peter sometime in the future and yep.
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>2024
>"Why is Jean Grey in Spider-Man"
>2026
>"Why does Jean Grey have to leave Spider-Man"
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>>155023657
>miles gwen
They fucked up by making Gwen a trans-kid. Even if they backpedaled later, they made her too boyish looking its obvious what they intended. That both made the based boys mock them because Miles is a faggot, and ruined their bbc message so no point in still pushing for it.
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>>155023657
>does this ship have more art than miles gwen?
hell no
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>>155023863
I will fight to the very end for what brings me comfort.
Besides, it will be satisfying to know that Disney would lose a lot of money by not do this ship.
MjxPeter and JeanxScott will never achieve even half of what SpiderPhoenix could generate.
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>>155023838
Right? She's fucking based
I want Peter to unleash half a decade of pent-up sexual aggression and loneliness into Jean's virgin mutant pussy. It'll start extra rough because of his arachnid mode, but it becomes more and more tender and soft as it goes as he focuses on making sure she has a good time. Her psychic powers will ensure both of them are intimately connected the entire time, sharing every thought and sensation with one another. Nobody will know when Peter begins and when Jean ends. Eventually his webshooter will get super sticky in her V-max, and when she locks her legs tightly around him and their fingers intertwine, he'll be whispering low in her ear that she'll never be alone again before he stares into her joyful, teary eyes with the warmest smile he's ever had before giving her the deepest kiss he's given anyone, his tongue writhing in her mouth like a coked up snake as they simultaneously climax and they start the process of welcoming new life into the world.
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>>155023962
>They fucked up by making Gwen a trans-kid
It would be really, really funny if they actually confirm it in the next movie. Doubt they will though since trans shit is falling out of fashion, but hey you never know.
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>>155023657
No. And it still has a long way to go.
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>>155023657
>>155023962
No one ships gwen and miles together anymore after the shitty 2nd animated movie, they instead paired him with peni lol
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>>155023962
>They fucked up by making Gwen a trans-kid
Is this true? I only remember the protect trans kid flag thing being the only point of evidence but I think it’s just something she picked up as Spider-Woman. If Miles or Peter had that flag in their room, I doubt anyone would seriously consider them trans.
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>>155023993
Funny, I just want Peter to hug her and be there for her. All else is just icing on the cake.
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>>155024016
Exactly, and I remember it started when they got into drama for the trans flag in Gwen's room. Then they made it even worse when Gwen betrays Miles in the film, which is a no-no for purists and otaku so that lost them Asia. That's why they sought Peni instead and that's what they fucking deserve for choosing identity politics over telling a good story
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>>155023993
>smelly girl failure hobo Jean
>Living on the streets with the same boots for years
>Unable to take a proper bath at times
>Peter takes the boots off for her
IMAGINE THE SMELL! Ponder the aroma!
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will jean appear in this one?
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>>155024126
>no no NO, Peter, I'm not gonna bathe!
>come on Jean, please
>no, I just wanna laze around your place
>...shower with me
>what?
>okay well I'm gonna go take a shower, see you after-
>holy shit Jean how did strip that fast?!
>oh god are we floating?
>Jean stop!
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>>155024165
somebody draw a 2 panel of this, head snap + lens flare
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>>155024130
Yes, she'll show up in the final act of the film and personally cause him to lose his position as CEO.
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I need MOAR cute Jean x Peter fics!
/works/89711981/chapters/238317011

If you want smut, this one has Arachnid-mode Peter. You can fill in the blanks how that plays out.
/works/90059966/chapters/239332616
More smut:
/works/90049876/chapters/239299626

This one is what I'm looking forward to for more chapters:
/works/89713766/chapters/238321561
Thank you to the anon who recommended them
>>155024165
This is so cute! Though I want to lick her smelly feet
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I know it'd make it all bloated to hell and back but I do hope we get Peter to show up in the X-Men for a little bit
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>>155024223
>X-Men movie
>Spider-Man shows up
>He and Jean talk and Jean looks super happy and lively
>Everyone else is star-struck because it's the motherfucking SPIDER-MAN
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>>155024223
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Jeane has all of Michelle's issues cranked up to 100
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>>155024250
>Scott has a crush on Jean and is jealous because of just how happy Jean is whenever Spider-Man's around
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>>155024250
>Drags him off to her room
>Whole mansion starts shaking
>Girls asking if they should try to join in
>Scott comes back and asks whats going on, wheres Jean
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>>155024212
I've been enjoying this one:
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>>155024252
big feige I was not familiar with your game, wowzers
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>>155024314
>Confirmed Peter and Jean are a similar age
Feige-sama, please.....
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Feige why are you justifying this ship
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They're gonna get women hating on Cyclops for ruining their ship.
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>>155024355
Women love Michelle. Men like Jean
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>>155024328
It makes for a bad headline if your family friendly movie has a 15 year old use her psychic powers to have people try to kill themselves. Her being closer in age to Peter also highlights the fact that she is a foil for Peter.
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>>155023461
THEY BELONG TOGETHER
THEY ARE NOT SIBLING CODED
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>>155024355
>hated by normalfag men for being boring
>hated by normalfag women for ruining their OTP
>hated by jeanfags because of his serial cheating
>hated by x-men writers for existing
>hated by the mcu writers who cast a faggot for his role
damn....
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>>155024223
I hope they keep Jean out of the x-men, she should become part of the Spiderman cast as his girlfriend.
I hate how convoluted the x-men stories are. And I'm not looking forward to the Phoenix either, writers always need to find contrived ways to prevent her solving everything or steamroll everyone in her way and that is boring.
>>155024252
>>155024250
Scotty don't look!
>x-men movies shows the Xavier Institute plaque
>first shot is Scott, sitting in a chair
>sounds of moaning and grunts of pleasure are heard as he stares ahead
>close upshot of Jean's o-face as she is getting railed hard by Peter, mask stays on of course, on Scott's bed
>Peter grunts loudly, like a beast as Jean leg locks him and he releases a heady torrent of white, sticky, virile "spider web" straight into her v-max
>Scene ends with Peter drinking a bottle of water and fistbumping Scott as he leaves the room
>"Now you may wonder how I ended here" obligatory speech
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This ship appeals hard to women and you can tell because of how sappy most of the content for it is
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>>155024252
If Spider-Man appears in a X-Men film, i hope they do Spider-Man vs Juggernaut.
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>>155024274
No, Michelle's crime is being boring. Jean commits mass murder and rape on the fly, but she is entertaining to watch.
Michelle's crime is the worse of the 2 in a movie and from a main heroine.
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Threadly reminder that the MCU firmly established that mind control is rape in Jessica Jones which is directly relevant to this film since Punisher is in the same line of series
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Jean Grey will return in the CEO of Sex
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>>155024396
They are not sibling coded, AND if they are, it makes me want to ship them even harder!
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>Mind raped millions in the city
>Similar shit to when charles went out of control in logan
How did people not die? That was 15 minutes of them losing complete body control and all
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>>155024396
Even if they are sibling coded, this is the perfect example of what I like in "what ifs" or elseworlds; people who don't have anything to do with one another in the main canon being close as kin or bitter rivals in another. It leads to fun dynamics, which the film is proof of it because for the first time in a LONG time I'm excited for MCU slop.

>>155024409
Women would rather have Peter be arachnid hormone charged then violently rape Yelena, Jean and Michele with his triple barbed spider cocks. Men just want to hug a scared, flawed woman and tell her she's better than she thinks she is.
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>>155024458
Where’s Sex 2?
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>Jean's face when TRYING REALLY HARD to beam sexy thoughts into Peter's brain
>Peter wonders why he can't stop picturing Jean's body masturbating on a bed
>thinks he must be a huge pervert
>saves people around New York while sporting the hardest most visible boner of his life
>gets called a pervert
>Jameson publishes a tabloid about Spiderman: sexual menace
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>>155024475
The scene actually put me in edge because this was Jeans first time ever doing any of that stuff. She could have made a mistake and killed someone.
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>>155024475
That wasn't mindrape, it was telekinesis. She was just holding them in place.
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>>155024398
I hope Jean doesn't even become the Phoenix. The shackles of narrative determinism have loosened with her and Peter being close.
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>>155024475
Imagine going through that after they all just got done getting shoved into shame rooms by the Void, therapists in MCU New York are making bank
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Another thing that bothers me about YouTube reviews
>Flashbacks establish Jean Grey as abandoned by mother
>She's desperate for acceptance/family
>Elder sister pushes the mutants vs normals narrative
>Intentional or not sets up Jean to be emotionally dependent on her.
>Learns how to use powers from sister, loose ethics regarding power use from sister's example
>Desperate to save her from glowniggers
>Gets experimented on
>learns sister is dead

Now enter spiderman
>Genuinely good hearted guileless person (simple spider)
>Peter's PERCEPTION/memory of Aunt May is highly supportive of weirdness/mutation powers
>Offers emotional support (you have me)
>Takes a bullet for her the exact moment after

As far as I see it, her being a Villain and then being redeemed/neutral by the end of the story actually makes perfect sense or is justified. Aunt May's words (actually peter's perception of her) basically target her core insecurity caused by parental abandonment and dispels her sister's core argument to perpetuate Jean Grey's isolation from others.
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>>155024499
Okay well she mindraped them in a way of controlling them as well but ALSO telekinesis
but she siezed all of their muscle functions.
Charles killed the X-Men because of the very thing she did to a million New Yorkers
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>>155023598
>And now Brand New Day Jean is way too strong to stop so the only way to win is being nice to her
Spiderman kicked her ass and chipped were while she had a hulk.
They all won until Black Cecil decided to turn her back on.
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>>155024495
>whenever that happens his organic webs also get a strange consistency
>all the goons that get caught get super grossed out
>crime starts to go down because criminals don't want to get a weird super power equivalent of a bukkake
>all part of jean's master plan to have more of peter's time
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>>155024342
He's seeing the potential profits. Right now his eyes are turning into giant dollar signs.
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>>155023751
Xmen all have the X-gene right? Spiderman doesn't actually count as a mutant in Marvel right? I'm always confused how this heavy-handed racial analog works when they're in the same universe as other supers.
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>>155023863
So is the justification that because Jean Grey read Peter Parker's mind then entered the minds of Michelle and Ned; she inadvertently brought back those memories in them?
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>>155024517
People are saying Naruto and Sasuke but I see a dead ringer for Naruto and Gaara
>>155024542
I think what makes it really work is that Peter himself is imperfect

Not that Cap or Thor are perfect but their personalities are so elevated that it might feel impossible to reach their status
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>>155023598
I do enjoy this kind of story development but Marvel's been really overusing it lately. Doctor Doom better not go down to compassion.
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>>155024542
I remember May quickly accepting Spidey was not very accepted back then due to being inaccurate to the comics but now it ties into Jean's story
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>>155024396
>SIBLING CODED
EVEN BETTER!
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>>155024585
Matching keychains, t-shirts, and phone cases featuring Jean and Peter as a couple.
Jean and Peter action figures.
Jean and Peter comics and audio dramas.
Japanese songs featuring Jean and Peter.
Jean and Peter plush toys.
A "What If" comic series about Peter and Jean as parents dealing with the Spider-Totem and the Phoenix.
A Jean x Peter art book.
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>>155024573
>Black Cecil decided to turn her back on.
kek so fitting, truly the kind of mess og!Cecil would cause
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>>155024517
>What... are you?
>Your friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man!
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>>155024631
The Japanese are aging 5D shipping chess
What the fuck is he even saying
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>>155024706
Peter lets Jean possess him so she can experience webslinging.
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>>155024396
>THEY ARE NOT SIBLING CODED
BUT THAT MAKES IT HOTTER!
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>>155024723
Web slinging is cool but flying is often times much more boring. IDK, it's this kin of thing where if your mode of overland flight has no risk, it just isn't a cool. Even a Jetpack is more ideal.
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>>155023768
MCU Kilgrave is dead tho, right
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It's a fools hope. All these cute ideas, all these greentexts, all these hopes. Sooner or later, it all returns back to formula. Dread it, run from it, she will win it.
>B-but she said that she didn't love him
She cared enough to let him into her apartment to mess around with her and Ned. They hit it off. The spell is starting to get broken by the end of the movie. Tom is in the writers room and actors are incredibly uncreative. Since he loves his wife, he'll have her and him end up together. Their huge fanbase will not spend money on a film where they get genuinely broken up. Previous versions of Spider-Man had their own relationship problems but it always ended with the designated love interest. It's what makes money. It's what the general public wants. Enjoy your ginger mutie before she goes Phoenix and needs to die again.
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>>155024795
>Spider-Grey
Ew. Just make her Spider-Girl.
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>>155024670
Wouldn't Marvel be happy about this since it justifies them not getting Peter and MJ together?
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>>155024723
What if Peter lets Jean possess his body so she can know what its like to jerk off? Or Peter is curious about what it would feel to have a v-max and Jean reads it in his mind, so she decides to give him some "help" to see the world from her perspective
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>>155024817
I expect a Japanese fancomic at some point
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>>155024817
>Their huge fanbase will not spend money on a film where they get genuinely broken up
Dude, fuck off with this shit. You think that fanbase contributed that much to the box office?
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>>155024342
>listen here you little shit I have to pay for Moana flop, you get me Spider-man and Jean Grey merch and you do it yesterday
>oh and the X-men's new branding is Spider-man's Amazing Friends
This was heard coming out of feige's office this morning
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>>155024842
Everything else applies.
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>>155023738
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>>155024769
This is comicsland, can always be brought back on the excuse that the "snap" brought him back on accident, or he comes from "another universe" , blame Wanda for him coming back to life or whatever.
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>>155024834
>no jean, i will not let you go into my mind and watch me jerk off
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>>155024867
No
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So the chinese fandom calls the ship 琴虫 (basically SpiderJean) and it's actually kinda becoming a thing (CP means romantic, nonromantic is CB).
https://www.sina.cn/news/article/nimqptr2685689.html
https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20260807A00BE100
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Damn these move fast. Request from last thread
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Why are
>sociopathic girl
>good natured boy
ships so perfect?
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>>155024880
>Jean watching you jerk off and knowing all your sexual fantasies and fetishes
>Jean letting you enter her mind to see her pleasure herself and create a connection where you both feel the other's pleasure
>The feelings so intense all sense of self is lost, its impossible to tell where one being ends and the other begins. You become one being, joined in pure unadulterated pleasure and love
H-hot!
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>>155024898
Excellent, this makes Jean (and Frank) merch outside Spidey's coaster there way more likely.
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>>155024907
CUTE!
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>>155024921
Because it's the bedrock of most relationships that don't end in cheating, divorce, or homicide
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>>155024921
It's the modern-day Prince Charming. The dragon is just the girl's mental illness
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>>155024945
>The dragon is just the girl's mental illness
...Wait that tracks.
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>>155024938
Glad you like it! It took me a while to find a pose and expression I liked, so I'm happy it got the right vibe across
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>>155024907
Nice work anon.
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>>155024907
I love it
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>>155023863
>Not MJ remembered the whole time since picking up the letter and broke up with Peter for making the "choice" for her and violating her autonomy.
>Peter would realize this 10 seconds after Ned instantly remembered everything from one old timeline
>Double 100% over so the 9 MCU saving spiderman crossovers to come are free of MJ baggage
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Still interested in more art ideas for it, I think I may have genuine ship brainrot
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Why are movies so long now anyways? If I had to complain, there were a lot of superfluous scenes.
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>>155024921
What are other archetypes that are just as endearing? Personally I also liked the chemistry of Gwen and Peter in the previous set even if Andrew didn't feel like Peter, more like a skate chad.
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>>155024907
ohhh thank you for choosing mine

she really is now mary jean
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>>155025019
Going to the movies costs a bajillion dollars so people feel cheated if they're too short
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>>155025005
How about Jean striking the "Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot!" pose and saying it to Peter?
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>>155025005
Peter and Jean at May's grave site.
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it's really fuckin weird how easily I can excuse the actions of violent evil women as long as they look cute and mind control happens to be my fetish
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>>155025019
two and half hours isn't that long you little bitch
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>>155025005
KISS
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>>155025060
Don't worry, according to the writers she didn't kill anyone :D
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>>155025005
Goblin Queen as the Green Goblin
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>>155025080
>inb4 someone brings up the worker hit by the car
That guy was in a crosswalk, it's not her fault some dumbass was speeding!
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>>155025060
To me its broken and smelly hobbo girls but since I also have a merging fetish, I want to become one with Jean!
That must truly be the ultimate intimacy
https://youtu.be/UZ4an60Zmvc
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>>155025005
jean defending peter against the x-men / brotherhood who are pissed about the inhibitors
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>>155025076
You could tell the same story cutting out 90% of the MJ and Peter's guy friend scenes.
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>>155025080
idk man... I didn't see the movie but I saw that webm of that old man getting hit by a car. I know that's livable but he was also pretty old....
Despite all that the writers should totally have her and Peter get together since zendaya has forgotten all about Peter. Idk if they got back in the movie tho.
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>>155025097
Drove a tank using an old lady and shot at a bunch of police cars, ran over other cars, had a bomb as well, released scorpion to terrorize shit under her control, released the hulk which got out of control as well, 15 minutes of loss of bodily function of the entire city
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>>155025122
>>155025097
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>>155025122
>15 minutes of loss of bodily function of the entire city
dude they were just held in place and it wasn't the entire city otherwise Frank would have never been able to get that shot off
>Drove a tank using an old lady and shot at a bunch of police cars, ran over other cars, had a bomb as well, released scorpion to terrorize shit under her control,
Spiderman was there to save everyone
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>>155025107
I kind of like Ned more than Zendaya, at least he is okay and provides context. Watching Zendaya's resting bitch face is just...depressing.
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>>155025130
Why the hell didn't Polyester-Man save those people?
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>>155025112
I love how theatrical she is, so hammy!
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>>155024898
If it becomes big in china it would be great because then it has to actually be considered due to the size of the audience

>>155025112
they didnt, she crapped all over peters desire to get back together because she didnt remember a thing. i do not want the two regaining their memories because it just ruins the sacrifice and i dont like the uggo mj. then she ends up holding the shitty black necklace at the end that he gave her so some think she remembers

>>155025149
seconded. Ned is fun. shebitch is just depressing and annoying
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>>155024398
They just have to treat it like a super hero team instead of a soapbox. Which will be hard for them to do without firing every heh magneto was right faggot on staff. The limiting factor to Xmen is everyone is tired of the heavy handed allegory. Spiderman meets Jean grey is already in the top10 highest grossing movies of all time and not once is she even brought up as a xgene mutant.

If the Xmen is a vehicle for doing punch bad guy superhero fights with a school backdrop for social side stories it'd be fine. If it's all about discriminationerino it'll kill the phase.
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Kill all simps
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>>155025147
>they were just held in place
Doing who knows what and i've seen what happens to people thanks to logan lol
>it wasn't the entire city
Well it was a big, big part of it
>Spiderman was there to save everyone
I don't think he really saved much of anyone anyway lmfao
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>>155025130
this is just like every movie car chase scene ever yet despite everything we're always expected to believe none of those crashes caused by it killed anyone just typical movie logic
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I have peacefully accepted that they won't officially get paired after this, but I'll be livid if they didn't bring up more parallelkino between them in future movies. If they can't get together because of the whole Tom and Zendaya thingy, at least make Peter and Jean's relationship be a two parallel lines kino.
>close
>could never met
>but walk towards the same destination forever, supporting each other.
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>>155025163
I honestly have no fucking clue, he straight up let so many people get hurt and didn't check on them, instead went around chasing her
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>>155025149
>I kind of like Ned more than Zendaya
In Ned's defense, he probably had more character in the previous movies (I never watched them)?
I only have this movie for context, so I'm just not seeing the chemistry with MJ. She felt like a plot device for the most part.
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>>155025166
>If it becomes big in china it would be great because then it has to actually be considered due to the size of the audience
I will become the CCP's most die hard supporter and call for the immediate reunification with the rogue breakaway province of Taiwan if they use their influence to make it canon.
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Jean Grey with glasses
Megane Jean
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>>155025178
>thanks to logan lol
I don't know how the fuck you retards got the idea that Jeans outburst works the same as Professor X's episodes in Logan Jean wasn't even attacking their minds it was telekinesis it wasn't just the people that were frozen in place
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Is a girl really worth pursuing if she isn't a landmine?
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>>155025201
Not him but the whole Michelle jones shit was awful, shes just there in the background for homecoming really just also calling peter a loser then dips.
Come the second movie far from home and peter is suddenly into her? She doesn't really have any depth at all, no real goal or anything either, completely expressionless.
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>>155025097
that ain't no crosswalk >>155025164
Also, those people behind him really don't give a damn they just watched and old man get bodied by a speeding taxi.

>>155025166
I hope that implies they didn't actually get together in the movie. Cuz I think Jean Grey and Peter would make a way better couple. Perfect opportunity to do so as well.
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>>155025185
Tom has taken it up the ass and Zendaya has been double teamed. They've had roles where they've ended up with other people. Their shitter followers who want their story to be an adaptation of their real life love story are just too braindead to realize at the end of the day it's a job to them, no reflection of their real life.
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You guys know Ned isn't remembering Peter at the end right? He says "Peter!" because he knows Peter's name is SpiderMan and is connecting the dots.
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>>155025214
watch the clip from logan of when that happens then watch jeans scene of her doing it, thats why it's a copy paste.
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>>155025236
You think they told the actress to act dead inside or is this a case of the actress just not being able to act (common)?
Like that supergirl movie, the person playing supergirl seemed like she actually could do a good job even if the role was "be as much of a disgusting girlfailure as possible" while the plot device girl seemed to have been instructed to be an autistic brick?
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I used to hate shipping but this ship does something to my heart. If it's cute stuff or tragic stuff I love it. I love seeing Peter make Jean happy.
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>>155025259
*know's Spider-Man's name is Peter
fuck me
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>>155025272
I too would like to make Jean happy
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>>155025259
Yes, that was the point. He's first
>...Peter? Oookay, whatever...
Then he remembers MJ called spiderman Peter and is like
>PETER!
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>>155025269
most likely both? I don't know Zendaya just sucks at acting after her time on her disney show from way back then ended.

I don't even think they had anything planned with her, instead it was this liz character who was vultures fucking daughter and that went nowhere at all after getting him locked up.
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>>155025243
She explicitly does NOT want to be with him, they are not together. She directly states that his refusal to tell her after they all forgot is something she hates.

>>155025259
Yeah. Fairly obvious but I know some idiots missed it.

>>155025269
Thats just her acting. Resting bitch face. Its the same in Dune and the oddesy.
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>>155025263
>then watch jeans scene of her doing it, thats why it's a copy paste.
not even close you retard nothing is fucking frozen when Professor X is having his seizures
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>>155024542
I thought Sara was mostly a positive influence on Jean. The possession in the park is fucked up, but it did teach Jean about using her powers which she'll need to survive. Sara uses her powers on Jean to protect her, causing her to flee from the area instead of getting herself caught. Their conversation about loving a child like them ties into X Men themes and Aunt May's talk.

Jean changes her hairstyle to have bangs like Sara, and also when she ties her hair up. The scrunchie green and yellow colors also influence Jean's use of green and yellow.

Aunt May's death causes Peter to avoid his friends and make new ones for fear that they'll be killed because he's Spiderman. Sara being captured because she's a mutant contributes to Jean's worldview of people. I see Sara as being similar to May as someone who will be used as inspiration going forward.
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>Categorically turned down by old gf
>Best friend has good chemistry but needs to overcome his fanboyism
>Jean Grey knows his psychology more intimately than any other person, saw him take a bullet for her, and has been inside him.
Is it even a compettion?
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>>155025259
yeah, it was obvious if your not a smooth-brain. And it's been frustrating to read and hear people think it was anything else.
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>>155025243
>that ain't no crosswalk
y'know what you're right (must've confused it with the crosswalk behind him), but the webm does show he was on the solid yellow line which means the taxi was not only illegally speeding but also illegally in both lanes. This accident was 100% the fault of the taxi.
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>>155025259
>The ending scenes of MJ sitting on the school rooftop and holding the necklace Peter gave her, and Ned instinctively doing his and Peter’s handshake were filmed in a deliberately ambiguous way. MJ and Ned could have regained their memories, or MJ may simply be developing feelings for Peter all over again, while Ned connected the dots after MJ called Spider-Man “Peter” earlier.

Yes no shit, but it doesn't mean the spell won't either somehow break for them to remember or they just fall in love again. They did a test on letting MJ and Ned remember him and the test audience didn't like it, so they went with leaving it ambiguous and possibly they reform the same connection again/start to remember him. They clearly want to reverse No way homes ending somehow.
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>>155025259
>He only remembered their 15 part secret handshake guys d...d... don't read into it
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>Jean bouncing on the back of the car and just angerly telling the driver to keep driving
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>>155025330
You're an idiot then lmfao
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>>155025289
Zendaya played the edgy 2cool4u girl as opposed to Vulture's daughter who was more traditionally attractive. I guess she was just told to act like that. For what it's worth, I think she's okay in NWH and this. Not annoying. Only bad thing was everyone glazing her. She gets along with everyone. Frank likes her, Peter has oneitis which is pathetic no matter the situation and even Jean goes "she's dark and twisted like me." But I don't hate her. I don't even mind the resting bitch face because I have the male version of that so I know how bad it can be when people think you're asshole from something as shallow as an appearance. I expect her and Peter to end up together still but it's going to be rushed.
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>>155025335
I'm not saying she's treated her sister wrongly, just that her lessons were maladaptive.
>Makes the use/learning of their powers fun
>... but possessing random people
>Dulls the pain of parental abandonment
>...Via dehumanization and resentment
>Extremely supporting sister, self sacrificing for her
>... which builds an emotional dependency.
>Copes about mutant dsicrimination.
>... in the most self isolating way possible.

We have barely any flashbacks beyond what's necessary for the story, but what we did see EXPLAINS why Jean Grey acts the way she does.
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>>155025362
>no u
just what I would expect from a mouth breathing retard
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>>155025358
I like how regardless of shipping it's just unanimously agreed Jean was mouthraping Peter in this scene
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>>155024596
Spiderman would be classified as a mutate which is someone who gets their powers from an outside source, which is a ton of major Marvel characters.

Marvel citizens shit on people with powers, but not as much as they do with mutants. There's a funny moment in the Jla/Avengers crossover which highlights the difference between how they view super-powered heroes.
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>>155025366
Shes not even "okay" in NWH or this at all, nothing changed with her acting, it's still the same bland expressionless crap with nothing to really tell me about her character.
>She wants to go to MIT
Okay andddd what does she want to do at all? Family life? Goals? Not a thing to her still boring background character.
>Frank likes her
Only cause zendaya pushed for her to be "Fascinated" by the punishers lifestyle and cool with what he's doing
>resting bitch face
I don't even think it's that, it is just her being so plain and uninteresting that even Ned, who is also plain is still more entertaining than her.
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>>155025259
A lot of people missed that yeah. It was the whole reason behind having Ned learn his name in the first place
People forget that character dialogue is written with intent and not just to make them say things
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>>155024623
The ending is meant to be ambiguous according to creative. I think they're behavior has more to do with their interactions with Peter.
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>>155025391
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>>155025358
>sloppa
kill yourself
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>My edgelord vengeful enemy who can learn any skill and fuck with people's heads and is a reflection of what I could have been without the love and affection in my life who I accidentally kissed on the mouth
Spider Man Brand Naruto Day
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>>155025433
Even if it wasn't, it's a pretty hideous art style.
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Can't even make a terrified expression while shes falling
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>>155025251
Zendaya would want the extra money for participating in future spiderman movies
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>>155023490
Western artists are absolutely buck broken
>would get canceled for shipping Peter with le CHILD
>would get canceled for breaking up an interracial ship for a straight white ship
>would get canceled by Zendaya stans for humiliating her by implying her husband has better chemistry with someone else (he does)
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>>155023863
bad writing
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>>155024641
>muh family
He’s getting his family back and turning face at the end
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>>155024641
In this story this is based on (Secret Wars), Reed treats Doom with compassion in the end by fixing his face. He doesn't beat him with compassion though.

Even though Doom probably has a sympathetic backstory I don't see him going down to compassion, unless Spider-Man fights him and proceeds to forgive him for everything, which has worked on everyone except Mysterio for Peter.
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>>155025493
But Sadie Sink is on her mid 20s and Jeans exact age isn't named
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>>155025483
Kinda outdated
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>>155023962
Ok and so what? in her universe oscorp just made sugery that makes them pass or whatever?
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Cyke!!!
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>>155025493
It would be great if people were emotionally mature enough to not care about the race angle but they might be the ace in the hole that kills this ship in terms of PR
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>>155024483
The thing people never acknowledge is that a lot of women want to fuck their brothers but only older. Compared to men who like both younger and older.
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>>155025493
>>would get canceled by Zendaya stans for humiliating her by implying her husband has better chemistry with someone else (he does)
This is what I find funny, they don’t give a shit if Tom is having gay sex or making out with another man onscreen or Zendaya is having a threesome or romance with the Dune protag and push that as progressive or whatever, but the second Tom’s character develops an intimate and genuine connection with another woman’s character, they freak the fuck out and pull out the siblings and pedo cards.
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>>155025493
Invincible caused "Disposable black love interest" to become a noticable trend. It is unfortunate and the association could have been avoided if Peter didn't have two black girlfriends in a row
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>>155025493
Morons will be morons. Just ignore them. Parasocial celeb stans will be tossed into erupting volcanos when I get to be king of the Earth
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>>155024817
That drawings skin color says everything
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The real reason the ship works is because Jean and Peter are both annoying harem protagonists with a dozen love interests and multiple instances of kissing or being kissed without consent
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>>155024921
real life
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>>155024126
I can’t believe this fag is giving me a new fetish. I need to stop coming here. Now I pop boners at the thought of stinky Jean feet.
>>155025098
>that spoiler
You will transition within the next four years. Calling it now.
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>>155025019
Honestly I wish there were more
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>>155025546
>Movie is going to end #2 highest box office of all time, unseating Avengers Endgame, mainly off "good word of mouth"
>The good word of mouth is Zendaya doesn't get back together with spiderman

The time anyone listened to those people is over. Bluesky has as much mainstream cultural power as baraag and twice the unironic pedophlles.
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I bet you some shipping autist in Japan is making a delicious multi arc fan manga about them falling in love or fucking

I've seen it happen for so many other franchises. Japanese people love making overly produced fan manga that almost looks official
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>>155025112
>its livable
so's assulting somebody
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Would Jean and Peter have children soon, or would they wait for the right moment?
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best case scenario: Zendaya ships spideyjean
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>>155025259
only connects the dots...once they do their OLD handshake...makes sense...
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>>155025513
Face stuff won’t even be a thing with MCU Doom I figure
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>>155025618
Jean is not taking anything but raw Peter tingles adn she cartainly isnt on birth control.
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>>155025421
They origionally had an ending where they fully regain their memories so no that was always what they intended they just rolled it back.
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>>155025555
liberals hate wholesome and reproductive relationships what else is new
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>>155025618
Peter can’t even get registered to be married. They’ll wait until they feel things are settled down enough to bring a kid into their lives. Peter has his job as Spider-Man and Jean has her own thing going on as Phoenix as well.
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>>155024041
>the mutilated traitor trope
did hollywood really? (again)
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>>155025618
They both would have their reasons to be afraid of having them. Being Spider-Man is already leaving Peter with little time to be Peter, so, it's not that it will allow him to be a a Father also, and Jean would need time to allow herself to want a family again.
But, sooner or later she will realize that if there's someone that can give that back to her, and if there's someone that she wants that with, it will be Peter, and between the two of them they will sooth the other's fears.
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>>155025648
They left it “ambiguous” which tells me that they still plan to bring Ned and Michelle’s memories back even though the audience hated it so much

They remember, they’ll just reveal it later
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>>155025670
Yes he can. People just forgot him.
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>>155025638
Yeah, you're probably right. They've got to have scenes with RDJ's Doom unmasked.
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>>155025563
So weird because they also go out of their way to include two indian men but no indian women. Like they could have made peters gf in number 1 uzbek, inuit, or morrocan something we barely ever see.
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>>155025603
tbf, inlation
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Liz becoming FireStar at this point would be so funny
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>>155025130
Bro its 2026 those were all self driving you'd be lucky to have ONE fatality as a passenger probably with his seatbelt off
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I've been seeing the Kilgrave comparisons which fits since Jean's kissing scene reminded me of him. Mastermind and a bunch of other characters fit into this category as well.

In the comics Jean contributed to Jessica's recovery and eventual victory over Kilgrave.
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>>155025694
>retarded waste of time relationship drama
Just like the comics.
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>>155025764
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>>155025340
>zendaya remembers nothing
>jean knows everything
b-bros?
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>introduce potential redhead love interest for Spider-Man
>include a scene with a blonde girl who's a potential rival for his affection
Thats not-MJ and not-Gwen taken care of. Who's going to be the not-Felicia in the next movie?
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>>155025789
Jean wins. Yelena can't make babies
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>>155025764
Kirkman is such a hack man. That’s Atom Eve is literally Jean Grey
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>>155025623
If she does that, I would worship her as an artist
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>>155025807
>qt ginger gf
>kick ass blonde side girl with zero baggage
¿Por que no los dos?
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>>155025807
Yelena is for anal, I’ll turn that sphincter into a sex organ baby
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>>155025147
>>15 minutes of loss of bodily function of the entire city
What if it was 15 minutes of bowel function loss?
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>>155025825
Never breed, son. For the good of all.
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>>155025859
How many mutant skulls has he caved in with that shield?
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>>155025807
Yelena is for drawing all the in universe fanart.

In the Xmen crossover Jean will be a founding member of Xavier's team and be very fish out of water smeared as the unstable psychic murderer, but then spiderman swings by to help. And suddenly there will be hundreds of drawings of her having sex with spiderman appear on the internet which acts as an awkward wedge between them. Then in the big multi team stop dr. Doom pre battle downtime near the end of the movie Peter will notice what Yelena is sketching and she'll realize she's been the one thing keeping her favorite ship from happening.
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>>155025906
Which female marvel character would have a sextape leak?
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>>155025923
Emma Frost
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>>155025803
have these started since the beginning?
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>>155025937
damn scott just can't catch a break
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>>155025937
Cmon leaking it herself doesnt count.
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>>155025937
She’d post it
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>>155025952
While she does definitely leak one herself, we're talking about the one Namor leaked to prove he cracked something other than a fish or a tapeworm
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>>155025221
>Is a girl really worth pursuing if she isn't a landmine?
Nah only girls worth it are the ones that will turn your life upside down, for good and bad.
>>155025203
>I will become the CCP's most die hard supporter and call for the immediate reunification with the rogue breakaway province of Taiwan if they use their influence to make it canon.
SAME
>>155025236
>Come the second movie far from home and peter is suddenly into her?
Yeah that part never made much sense to me either.
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>>155025358
H-hot!
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>>155025974
AI doesnt count
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>>155025951
They deserved each other LMAO
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I have not seen a piece of fan art using Jean's calling Peter a simple spider.
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Most of the fanart for the shop is cuddles and hugs which I'm guessing is because porn artists are wary of the possibility that Jean is under 18
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>>155025452
It was great
>>155025463
kek you're right, she looks bored!
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>>155023863
No! No! NO! YOU'RE A NIGGER!
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>>155026018
when has that ever stopped them before?
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>>155026018
I appreciate the cuddles but I'm down for a few pieces of romantic sex by now.
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Concerning. Punisher was at least one kilometer away from Jean and Peter when he shot him so how long did it take him to get there and bring Peter to the hospital
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>>155025005
Jean Grey doing face it tiger pose please
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>>155025571
I love their conflict
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>>155026018
>possibility that Jean is under 18
Big man fegie himself said theyre the same age
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>>155025605
That's why Japan is the best country in the world
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>>155025005
Peter wakes up to find himself cocooned again. With Jean who's very happy to be there.
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>>155026083
>don't move peter or else the string will snap!
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>>155025005
Jean learns about the phoenix force and convinces herself to start nesting. In Peters bedroom.
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>>155025005
Jean starts acting like a housewife for Peter, in a performative way. She doesn't know how to court so she just assumes acting like a housewife is how you do it. Peter is confused and very embarrassed to see her acting like this and thinks she doesn't have to do all that
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>>155025764
They are so alike, I enjoy the parallels so defeating him without resorting to extremes would be Jean's way of proving she has matured.
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Imagine if Jean asks Peter in a future movie to let her read his mind for comfort again
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>>155026204
>Jean wants to be the ideal partner but has no idea how to accomplish this
>Hijacks random fantasies from different mens heads and tries each one out to see what he likes
>Rapidly cycles between tradwife, dommy goth gf, manic pixie dream girl, tomboy, etc.
>reduced to a blushing mess when Peter finally cottons on to what she's doing and tells her he likes classic Jean the best
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>>155025005
>Jean playing house and absolutely burning the fuck out of whatever she's trying to cook

Alternate she says "you have to eat all the eggs" to Peter after he's woken up from an arachnid blackout
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>>155025875
Not nearly enough
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>>155026316
KEK
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>>155026316
Nice
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>South Korea, China and Japan straight up think that Jean Grey is a Spider-Man character or related to him
>Most of them don't know about Cyclops and if they do, they don't care about him at all
>Those who know about Cyclops is due the Fox films or MvC games and think he only exists to be an obstacle for Wolverine that prevents getting with Jean
>Most of Jean fanart from those regions is mainly from BND
>They would rather have Jean be with Peter than Scott
Holy shit. Between this, X-Men '97 S2 turning him into a jobber and the Wolverine PS5 game taking all his lore then giving him to Logan in that game which includes Jean, Cyclops and his fanbase can't really catch a break from the century of humiliation that Marvel is giving him.
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Jean would have picked up house making skills from women she bodysnatched but she wouldn't know how to tailor it to Peter's tastes without asking him
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>>155026370
China is the largest entertainment population on earth btw
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>>155025605
jean with her jacket and hoodie unzipped without a shirt or bra
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>>155025005
This one, please >>155024165
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>>155026413
Bro, Cyclop, give it up, you have emma frost
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>>155024898
>Spider-Man 5: Love of the Phoenix
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>>155026520
Kek
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Peter deserves a hobo girlfriend.
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>>155026528
Stink lines
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>>155025040
>>155023911
>>155026067
Color and render soonish
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>>155026571
>Spider choker
Cute!
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>>155026589
Yeah, I think it's neat. I've been drawing it on most of the Jeans I've done, just not the last two since the former was an evil nightmare sequence and the latter was embarrassed to be wearing a shirt with him on it (presumably because it was before she mustered the confidence to actively pursue him)
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>>155024898
>comparing Peter/MJ vs Peter/Jean as Shinichi/Ran vs Conan/Haibara
Holy shit it's big in China yeah.
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>>155026571
>>155026630
Thanks for sharing
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>>155024898
>Spider-Man CP
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Kinda crazy how quickly this ship took over people’s minds. It’s like the fucking symbiote.
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>>155026886
The desire to draw spiderjean porn calls to the artist like the green goblin mask
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>>155026322
Steve would be so disappointed in Peter for behaving like them.
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>>155026886
SAUCE NOW
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>>155026886
It's really as simple as they don't have better options. MJ dated Peter for a brief time, moved on, and most importantly isn't a super hero. Michelle simply has few fans. Hell, the character she's based on is hardly popular these days.

Jean doesn't have any male connections. The only person we see her positively interact with who isn't dead is Peter.
So there's the ship
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Someone just posted a super cute pic and deleted it wtf
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>>155026886
What if we're all bring controlled by Jean so she can move herself over to a way more successful franchise?
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>>155026886
Spider-man fans yearn for the redhead
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>>155026322
>>155026946
>"Captain America"
>"That mutant pussy got me questioning my loyalty to the Avengers"
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>>155027015
Eat up.
https://x.com/seki_san65/status/2087583007255486924?s=46
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>>155027035
I have it.
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>>155027035
I deleted it because it turned out to be likely ai even though it didn't look it the AI detect thing said likely AI and the author's other images did look more obviously AI
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>>155027041
Nah, it’s more like Hollywood/Ugly chicks have been brainwashing us to like Michelle Jones for decades and we finally developed standards now
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>>155024483
>Women would rather
Bruh, those women you described are in the same boat as the guys who watch rape porn.
Just pair those freaks together and let us enjoy the cute-slop.
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>>155027236
Her rare genuine smile
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>>155026571
Done
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Potentially time to discuss seperate threads for porn and wholesome?
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>>155027395
I think one thread is probably fine, not much point in trying to separate the siamese twins when they share so many vital organs
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>>155023490
Because Japanese cucks love psycho bitches who are actually sociopathic and abusive. Just look at the guy who did Chainsaw Man. Openly admits he loved being bullied + stepped on by girls as kid. "It made me feel funny." Even based Makima on Princess Bubblegum exploiting Finn.
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>>155027372
You're this ship's strongest soldier in this site, great job.
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>>155027563
Thank you! I'm having a lot of fun with it, and I think I'm getting a better grasp on what I like about it and how to express that in my doodles
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reading through fanfics, did everyone independently agree there’s now a permanent psychic bond between them
very specific thing to converge around
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>>155027526
>Just look at the guy who did Chainsaw Man
Funny that you mention him, because he is a Spider-Man fan as well and he has watched Raimi and MCU Spider-Man films. He put a Spider-Man 2 reference (train scene) alongside name dropping him in Fire Punch alongside Denji, the main character of Chainsaw Man is a walking reference to Spider-Man, Venom and Wolverine (he acts more like Carnage).
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>>155027372
Good job, anon; I'm working on an illustration too.
By the way, I need to ask: is Peter's spider totem known as "The Other"? Does it have any other name? Just want to make sure I don't make any mistakes.
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>>155027658
They used their version of the ben death as their uniting moment. That's some strong symbolism
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>>155027705
It is generally known as the Other, or just the spider-totem. Peter's is a single instance that originates and draws its power from the Great Weaver, the cosmic spider god that spins the web of life and destiny that props up the universe
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>>155026067
I need moar of thissssss
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>>155027372
Noice anon
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>>155027372
I never thought I'd see the day I start shipping Spider-man with Jean
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>>155027996
I definitely feel like the ship caught everybody by surprise. I went into the movie thinking Peter was just gonna put Jean away but him bonding with her like that in the end hit like a goddamn truck. Jean and Peter really bared their humanity and vulnerabilities to each other and there was such a warm sincerity to the “you have me” moment. I felt that they truly embraced each other emotionally and people have shipped for much less.
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>>155027705
Kinda? Unlike the other Special Spider-totems, “The Other” is more like a mantle that can be used by other totems. Most notably it’s been used by 616 Peter, Kaine and most recently 982/MC2 Peter. That being said, only Peter and his clones had the title of “The other”.

Other Special totems include,
The Bride - Silk
The Scion - Benjy
The Patternamker - Annie
The Great Weaver - nobody rn.

It’s unknown if they behave similarly to “The Other” in that other version of those characters can inherit it or if it’s specifically those versions. (I.e someone like Richard can become the Scion)
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>>155028107
>The Bride - Silk
Very funny how they keep wanting to bone because of the whole pheremones thing.
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>>155027059
zis

>>155027372
this is just mary jane with telepathy!
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people forget that mary jane was once an extrovert with a ton of friends not an introvert who would nuke a city
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Brand New May
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>>155027526
Reze was better
>>155027696
There is also a spider-man one reference in chapter 102
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>>155026018
I wish I could have hugs and cuddles right now
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You know, I kind of want to see Jean's X-Men suit, and only her suit, to have a logo that calls back to Spidey's. The legs of the spider already kind of make an X shape so play up the X, replace the spider-y shape for a bird or a person shape and you have a logo for Jean that can represent her powers a little I think
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>>155023777
MJ is amazing when done well but she is so far gone in the comics, games, films, etc at this point that it’s annoying to keep clinging to her. Felicia, Gwen, Chat, Kitty, Jean, even the fucking symbiote would all be more interesting pairings for him.

I think doing a FSN/Tsukihime-style VN would do wonders for her because then you could actually examine these characters in depth and contrast a well-written MJ with other routes like Felicia and Gwen.
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>>155024641
There is truth to it, but it begs the question why they didn't make a movie about Aunt May or Martha instead.

The fantasy elements in a fantasy movie should be important, even if they're not what solves the plot.
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>>155024016
Which makes it especially funny when Milesfags are always crying over Peni getting into games before him. The level of seething over her in Rivals and Tokon is ridiculous. Trying to imagine the reaction if Miguel or Gwen get into those games before him is entertaining.
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It would be funny if this had the Raimi effect where just because a successful movie did it automatically means all the adaptations end up doing it.
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>>155028451
I think they would have a turbo meltdown if Noir, Silk, Ben, or Kaine got in Tokon before Miles.
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>>155024396
>AU where Jean is Peter’s sister (Adopted if pandering to NBR cowards)
>Bonus points if they’re weirdly close hobo siblings
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>>155028461
CW The Flash
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>>155028318
Become gay
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>>155025824
What is it with Avengers and calling telepaths small potato stuff. Odin did it in 1 million years BC.
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>>155027372
Thanks anon, you are the best
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"sibling coded" my ass
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>>155026252
>Jean asks Peter in a future movie to let her read his mind for comfort again
Isn't that like asking your girlfriend to let you dock your penis deep inside her cunt and stay there while you cuddle?
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>>155026272
Will it be like Magneto's "I prefer the real Raven"?
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>>155026399
I'll take her only if she's sweaty and grimy
>>155026571
Hot!
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>>155029294
I like this art and it's technically competent but her face is so round and her features so exaggerated she looks like an emoji
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>>155027372
Someone send this to Disney execs and Feige! Or China
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>>155028222
So damn cute!
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They'll fumble this but god damn what a excellent concept.
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>>155029496
kek
Not like Jean can say much, she is broke too
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>>155026886
I don't know if the writers and director (who wanted Jean in the first place) knew what they were doing.
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>>155024023
Of course it isn't true. But /co/mblr has trannies live rent free in their heads just as much as the old tumblr did, so here we are.
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used my Paint-fu to do some good
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>>155024623
The justification is that MCU writing has turned into absolute abysmal dogshit, which is why we have Palantir Parker doing mass-surveillance as a throwaway joke and why Jean can kill dozens of people and drive a tank full explosives and an old lady into a prison and still be forgiven because she was hecking sad. Nothing makes sense anymore, don't go looking for a good explanation on how the spell works/gets undone.
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Curious to see what her dynamic with Emma will be now that Emma is older than her
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>>155029670
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>>155027100
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>>155029722
>/u/fag deserve the rope
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>>155029617
Wow those are some amazing paint skills! Great job, anon!
>>155029561
Don't pretend like it didn't happen, its clear as day in both the flag and the design. Its like when they were trying to make faggots mainstream, it started slow, now we got gay sex scenes in media.
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>>155023461
what a nortubel tier ship
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>>155023738
Second panel should be "Peter... you're gay."
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>>155029874
Fits Cyclops better nowadays
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>>155029778
>Wow those are some amazing paint skills! Great job, anon!
I'm not the original artist, sadly, just edited
I also edited this one >>155023738
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>>155029874
Jean specifically seek Peter out to make out with. If Peter was Bisexual by Far From Home, Jean would’ve made him hyper straight.
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>>155030128
She is so lewd, I wonder if she ever took over someone's body to "practice" her kissing
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>>155030186
For the past two years, she been trying to seek revenge. Jean just finds Peter cute that’s why she kissed him
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Jean is a murderous rapist of both sexes
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What was the strategic advantage of kissing him? That seemed to only provoke him further because it involved MJ
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>>155030220
You answer your own question
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>>155030243
She wanted him to give up and he didn't.
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yapper bf vs listener gf
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The chinks are moving on demon time, AI deadpool making SpdierJean using the Obsession one wish willow.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1huuf6CETZ/
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>>155030256
She wanted him to try harder and see who the read monster are
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The kiss was basically the same as a bugs bunny kiss but taken seriously. A kiss of mockery and shame.
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>>155030355
did she have to add tongue though
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>>155030327
How I'm going to be moving after China makes SpiderPhoenix happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30NJPmuxPHc
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>>155023768
This needs a follow-up with her getting a mouth full of organic webbing.
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>>155030256
>She wanted him to give up and he didn't.
He literally says "I give up, I surrender" when she drops MJ
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>>155027128
Artist?
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>>155029565

The cyclopsfag is coping in the other thread
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Re-posting on how an AU if Peter was Jean's sibling. Incest stuff of course.
>Jean Grey was sent to an orphanage due to her powers and adoptive parents didn't want her
>she is adopted by May and Ben at a young age
>Peter and Jean grew up together very close, not afraid of being there for one another no matter what, opening up to each other for anything
>she has her powers but they started out relatively weak, has only told Peter who is a big nerd about her and is amazed at what she does
>they become distant after Uncle Ben's passing
>fast-forward to when they are in high school, shortly after Peter gets his powers
>they team up cleaning up the city, but they don't know each other's hero identity
>they get close again when Jean notices she can't read Peter's mind anymore because of his suspicious night activities
>"Peter... we may have grown up like siblings but there's something I need to tell you..."
>pic related
I know NBR is a coward's way out for "incest" but Jean wouldn't be Jean if she experienced being abandoned by a family or losing a family member. BUT, if that were the case, would Jean be an older, or younger sister to Peter? Which would be better?
I genuinely want to write this, but I want it to be interesting with lots of fluff.
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>>155025618
Mutants canonically only do it raw
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>>155030327
Fucking BASED
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>>155029762
I see you prefer the company of men
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>>155030551
>Incest stuff of course.
Nice!
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Need art of Jean's one way mutual masturbation where she's mind-controlling peter jerking himself off while she shlicks
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>>155023598
With Captain Falcon and Red Hulk it makes thematical sense. Sam is a counselor and Ross is a ptsd riddled retard.
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Weird that both of the times Jean and Peter kissed in official media was without consent and forgiven
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>>155030677
Love how this is before and after she reads his mind
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>Pairing an abuse victim with their abuser
>it's actual kino
I'd love Marvel to dangle these new and shiny and strange keys in my face. Beats dangling the old and familiar
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>>155030677
This could have gone bad really fast if Peter had a really weird fetish or a single memory of being intentionally bad
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>>155030760
Cyclops vs the Asians
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>>155030760
honestly, who goes into a church and asks God or Jesus to kill someone? Especially when you're the one who's in the wrong (fake story about spiderman robbing a bank)? Do they really think God will do it?
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>>155030820
Well the symbiote dropped down right after he prayed and gave him super powers, so maybe marvel God is just chill like that... or hates peter parker too
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when are they visiting the spa?
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>>155030583
Kys Epstein
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>>155030787
Krakoa vs Asia...who would win?
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>>155030857
why is Teto there
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>>155030832
The symbiote was ultimately his downfall though, so if anything it was a punishment.
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>>155030760
Peter Parker might actually be God’s favorite Superhero.
>Inb4 why does he suffer then
He suffers because he chose to and that’s what makes him his favorite
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>>155030873
Not even she knows.
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>>155023598
They want people to think it's the only possible response to evil so that actual evil can win when it's not opposed.
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Peter says "she kissed me" not "she made you kissed me" or "you kissed me while she was controlling you" so he thinks of it as Jean kissing him
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>>155023598
>I notice this seems to be a repeating trend in Marvel movies where the villain is too strong to stop so you have to defeat them with friendship
This is also almost every Naruto villain
There's a word for this
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>>155030899
Kind of fucked up to have Peter take Jean's first kiss before Scott can even debut. It's like camping the spawn room.
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>>155030551
>would Jean be an older, or younger sister to Peter? Which would be better?
I think younger sister works better for traumatized and angry BND characterization Jean. Also, an older sister type turning clingy is harder to write convincingly unless you have a good grasp on gap moe and anime tropes.
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>>155030917
Peter didn’t do anything. She kissed him

https://youtu.be/0EewxIN4KHg?is=oqrS_k2wGkmcuo_Q
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>>155030917
He's camping her spawn room aaaayyyy.
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>>155030938
Men consent by default. Peter seduced sweet innocent Jean like the homewrecker he is.
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>>155030888
To be fair, he has a really fun skillset and can be cool while at the same time not being overpowered or too good (sadly Superman has that issue even though I enjoy Clark as a character) or too edgy like Punisher and Batman. He is allowed to make mistakes and feel human, and his story isn't as convoluted as say the x-men or the Avengers/FF.
>>155030629
You'd be better off requesting at /aco/'s Jean Grey thread. I already made a request at the art slut thread
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>>155030917
Yeah it is funny Jean Grey's first onscreen kiss in this universe is technically Spider-man
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Remember to keep checking the Jean Grey tag on Danbooru for more Japanese stuff
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>>155030939
>He's camping her spawn room aaaayyyy.
I prefer her "v-max". It always makes me laugh
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>>155030220
Sadie Sink in interviews has said it was designed to deeply hurt him. The whole Jean/MJ sequence was great. People overlook that Jean considers Peter to be a damage control stooge, which is kind of accurate.

Sadie also talked about watching Zendaya incorporate her mannerisms and way of speaking. The actors did a great job in this move of playing Jean puppets.
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>>155030996
>Sadie Sink in interviews has said it was designed to deeply hurt him. The whole Jean/MJ sequence was great. People overlook that Jean considers Peter to be a damage control stooge, which is kind of accurate.
>Sadie also talked about watching Zendaya incorporate her mannerisms and way of speaking. The actors did a great job in this move of playing Jean puppets.
I'm starting to get the feeling that Zendaya is a cuckquean and into making her husband roleplay being Jean's sex puppets in their home
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>>155030917
>before Scott can even debut
Scott's lame nobody cares about him
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>>155031007
Personally I can't understand how someone can be comfortable with their partner roleplaying being around another person intimately, even if it's just for work. Either it's a level of professional integrity and trust I can't comprehend or Tom and Zendaya like taking turns in the chair.
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>>155031024
I mean to be fair Zendaya got double penetrated in Euphoria and what's the other show's name while Tom took another man's cock in Odyssey. If anything Zendaya owes to let him eat some nice fiery pubes to be even
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>>155030917
English version?
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>>155023777
As much as I like MCU Jean, they will never make me forget Mary Jane. I'll always consider her to be Peter Parker's soulmate.
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>>155031182
Oh how they destroyed this character
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>>155031182
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I know love through knowing loneliness
Using all five senses, saving you
Means saving me too
After all, we're just people connecting

Beyond an "I-I-I-I love you"
I'm not alone anymore
Clear the darkness by being upbeat
I hold your words in my heart, yeah

(Beyond an "I-I-I-I love you")
(I'm not alone anymore)
(Clear the darkness by being upbeat)

And when the wounds in my heart have already started to hurt
What will you save with this sacrifice?
It's all completely inevitable
My righteousness lies here

Breathe, be aware
That the cruel pain of living has a meaning
While believing at the same time
That nothing can be done
And I fight again today

Take me by surprise
I just keep myself updated
I sing and swing in the rain
I hold your words in my heart

A dream of a person wrapped in a cocoon
Shaking hands with hope
Looking in the mirror once again
At a brand new me

Beyond an "I love you"
I'm not alone anymore
Clear the darkness by being upbeat
I hold your words in my heart

Take me by surprise
I just keep myself updated
I sing and swing in the rain
I hold your words in my heart

Beyond an "I love you", ooh
I'm not alone anymore

>>155031182
Must be a generational thing, I grew up with X-Men Evolution and Justice League airing and I found Mary Jane so fucking boring. I loved Gwen Stacy in Spectacular and liked the Emma Stone version more.
But I hated how they could never be part of the action in Peter's life.
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>>155031100
>I will control you, Peter.
>Go ahead and try, Jean. It won't work on me!
>4 years later
>Heh, look who's controlling you now.
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There is definitely some reason all of the mcu x men announced so far are in Peter's age range
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>>155030327
hey wait a minute, does this mean the real Peter and Jean have their consciousness suppressed?
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>>155031243
So she raped him
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>>155031246
Theyre making up for his shitty comic romances by giving him a live action harem.
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>>155031207
Mutts law
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>>155031246
That has more to do with the Mouse wanting to make sure they can ride these actors for the next 2 decades or so. Gotta make sure they're still fresh for when they do the next big Avengers bullshit in the late 2030's.
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>>155029874
What the hell Jean, Johhny and Peter would never act this way.

Also all the Deadpool Spider-Man stuff, that one suggestive Captain America page, and numerous Spider-Man and Venom material.
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>>155029889
Tom Holland would never condone such faggotry.
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>>155031276
Yes but he liked it
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>>155031372
the hell is this gayhomofag shit?
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>>155030374
Had to make it believable somehow (trust).
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>>155031226
>Must be a generational thing
I can assure you is not. I also grew up with Justice League (never watched Evolution since seems I was born with the anti-mutant gene) and I did find movie Mary Jane not worth the trouble but I remember reading many articles in specialized magazines about MJ and Peter's story and I wanted to know more since it was completely different from the movies.
Sadly I couldn't get my hands on many of those classic issues at the time and the very first issue of Spider-Man I read was ironically an old one where they split up. I must have been 7 or 8 and I remember thinking "surely they'll come back together, the writers can't be that stupid."
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>Peter sees that Scott has a crush on Jean
>Peter encourages Jean to go for Scott, not knowing Jean likes Peter
>Jean goes tsundere upset mode
,>Peter doesn't know why, assumes Jean is maybe a lesbian
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>>155031226
I could see people finding Dunst MJ boring. If you read the comics up until 2007, you'd see why people love MJ.
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>>155030935
>I think younger sister works better for traumatized and angry BND characterization Jean
It's Disney, they're not gonna kill off a character that's implicitly a minor even off screen. Besides Sara a real character and she canonically Jean older sister and being Jean's protector and Jean losing that when Sara is taken and then going overboard protecting herself to the point of cruelty to others also works.

>>155031372
You left out the best Panel
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>>155031489
>Jean looks into Peter's mind
>It's a hopecore edit
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>>155031509
Yeah which is weird since I've cum gallons to Dunst but I think I found her version a bit boring. Not to mention she betrayed Peter and only made his life hell to the point you wonder why he even bothers
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>>155031511
>It's Disney, they're not gonna kill off a character that's implicitly a minor even off screen.
Pirates of the Caribbean
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>>155031516
>jean starts making hopecore spidey edits on tiktok
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>>155031467
It's the mutants, or one in particular. They're turning everyone gay. This is why they are justifiably hated.
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>>155031405
Jean possessed that guy.
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>>155031522
She's in a love triangle with Toby in every goddamn movie, that and being a damsel in distress in the final act of every movie is her only purpose. Going back as an adult and re-watching the Raimi films I ended up despising this version of MJ. Stone is strangely the best love interest by far despite being in the most poorly received films and even Zendaya has more agency and character growth then Dunst.
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>>155031634
Does this make Jean Gay? There's alot of dimensions to Jean's character with this. How much of the suggestive gay material with Spider-Man is actually Jean possessing some dude.
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>>155031717
It's Jean all the way down
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>>155023461
Nobody gave a shit about Jean even a month ago because she has no personality and one memorable storyline, but now everyone's hyping her up as a new age waifu because they want their favorite broke loser to score with another redhead.
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>>155030551
Jean being Peter's step-sister also would provide more material for him to be bullied or dismissed by others at highschool.
You can write Peter either trying to play it down with self-predicative humor, as he usually does, joking about it trying to fit-in, as he originally wanted in the comics, or even being the one topic (or two, depending of if you want to include Aunt May nor Uncle Ben) which he doesn't allow to be made fun of.
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>>155031765
>movie gives her a personality
>people like her now

woah
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>>155030374
It was essential to her plan to find her sister.
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>>155031765
She is a landmine and that made her hot. Also she's stinky, so double hot!
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>>155024542
I don't care if she gets redeemed or not, but it happened too easily. The narrative contorted to make the victims not care about their suffering or be instantly forgotten by other characters. In RL, even if your pattern of behaviour changes, you still have to remedy the crimes you actually did. They don't stop having repercussions just because you've changed. Your redemption is not all everyone in the universe cares about.
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>>155030820
Lifetime achievement awards in player hating. If you haven't been on your knees in church, praying to God with tears streaming down your face for your rival to be killed, then you've never truly hated.
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>>155031945
I've seen this take a lot but I can't agree. You think a top level hater would outsource eliminating his rival, even to God? You really hate someone you'll kill em yourself. Eddie didn't even know he was talking about Spider-Man in this scene, he thought he was dealing with perfectly mortal, murderable Peter Parker. Could've done it himself if he was such a hater.
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>>155027802
Thanks.
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>>155031765
>because they want their favorite broke loser to score with another redhead.
Just making shit up huh, troondayafag?
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>>155032111
Thread looks like shit and I hate that meme, so no thank you.
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>>155032197
>>155026098

Your lost
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>>155032230
Lost what? I am here just for my love of this new bombshell character



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