Adambowl editionPrevious: >>155042565
Lucifer is a rapist.
>>155063090Viv would never do that. Like yeah if you actually think about it he's kinda creepy and a bit weird regarding the Eden humans. I've seen a lot of peeps trying to turn Sera into Lucifer 2.0 regarding the Eden humans( looks even more weird because she implied to have been involved in making them).
Seriously though, why is it so hard to imagine the kind of personality primordial earth would form? Adam and Eve lived for a near thousand years, raising hundreds of children in what was essentially the wilderness. Hostile environments, food scarcity, predators that stalked them at night, etc.All this because she was tricked.What kind of person do ya’ll THINK this made her before she died and became even worse?!And it’s not even anything revolutionary. This is pretty much what Adam and Eve’s lives were like when you look at their story realistically.
>>155063090Yeah, she ain’t doing that with Luci. No way.
>>155063050i want to give him soup and a comically oversized cracker he can nibble on like the mouse from the aristocats.
>>155063096Let’s see.>Michael is a very capable woman that is arguably dragged down by Adam’s boorish nature but needs him as a support system. And she’s been hiding her true arch angel capabilities. >Eve made a radical transition in her life to become Lillith after she refuses to repent and becomes one of the most powerful witches in the Hellaverse that doesn’t care about Adam and will stomp on Lucifer and his kingdom for her own sadistic enjoyment.
>>155063191Exactly! She’d be a hardened badass! Someone had to keep those kids alive and out the jaws of predators, and from what we know of Adam, it was unlikely to be him.And we’ve been told we’ve already met Eve and her story has been set up.Okay then… so realistically, with all that in mind, who does that leave us? Hmm?
>>155063191People do think Eve would be capable but Lilith Eve makes the most sense on how she would turn out than Lute ever does. Simply because Lute’s background is heavily Heaven-dependent and militaristic. While Eve’s background is of a mother that would be a lot more capable of manipulating her children than Lute’s pathetic non-charismatic anti-social attempts could.
>>155063289Lillith. She after all lived in hell and managed to be a lot more successful in gathering support than Lilith did.
Bugcuck is pretty much losing it now isn't he? I'm betting you right before the Lute is Eve reveal come S3 he's somehow gonna change his theory last minute to Lute is Eve except he'll somehow add another Lilith regardless.
>>155063368Are you retarded? That literally makes zero sense. How can you be this brain-dead you waste of human semen.
>>155063289Niffty is Eve.
>>155063382Michael Lute is staying. It’s a refinement of bug theory.
>>155063416michelle theory...
>>155063409It does make sense Lillith was a woman that could get anything she wants from anyone with the right push.She’s the only one in all of hell that united the sinners together when they’re normally a very chaotic society with no security in themselves or others. They all lay down their heads to her bosoms. Vox does it too.That’s something only the mother of all living could do. She lived in the world of chaotic humans for centuries as their mother. She would know exactly what to do.
>>155063416Bugcuck changes Lute's origin whenever somebody throws some random meme idea. She literally went from just a regular angel to hellborn to bug creature to Michael (I guess he transitioned into a woman). Next he's gonna go full loop mode and reveal that Lute is actually Lilith but another Lilith separate from Lilith and Lillith. She's actually Lilith with a silent middle L(Liith).
>>155063486No. That's not how shit works Bugcuck. You're just retarded. You made trans Lute a thing. I hate you for that.
>>155063437Bug Mike
>>155063529Michael can’t be trans. All warrior angels in Hazbin are female.
>>155063437I just realised Bugcuck literally made Transgender Lute(Michael transitioned into a woman and gave himself the name Lute after becoming a she). Not sure if Jax from TADC or his brother's transition was the inspiration for this.
>>155063533'michelle and bug mike' seems like it could be a fun indie sitcom animation project that fails to achieve any significant progress on its kickstarter attempt and dies in obscurity with a pilot that breaks 100k views in five years time and periodically shows up in youtuber tier lists of forgotten animation pilots, giving it a short bump of interest but ultimately never enough to get it back in the public eye.
>>155063289In terms of the kind of personality that would form, and the line of canon characters to choose from: Lute.
>>155063564You literally turned Lute into a MTF. Why did you make Michael transition into a woman Bugcuck? Why?
>>155063585>>155063607another demonstration of canon lgbt ally adam thanks to gender affirming misogyny you love to see it. >>155063603LET HER TOUCH
>>155063585I don’t think Lute is her actual name. It’s more like she didn’t want Adam to realize he’s actually in command of the hyped up arch angel Michael. Especially since he’s Adam and I doubt she had any good expectations for him at all.This does mean she has history with Lucifer and probably sounded more like she spoken in the season 1 finale. Far less dorky.
>>155063607It’s Hazbin.Adam never ate the apple.Eve didn’t repent.Abel is Lucifer’s bastard son.Female at birth Michael would just be another thing.
>Lucifer is so stupid. He mistaken Eve/Lillith for Lilith even with her glasses off and her hair being completely off.All Michael has to is change her voice and face and he wouldn’t be able to recognize her.
For all Hazbin's flaws there are no trannies in it.
>>155063753We gotta look for the imps to confirm that.
>>155063643>>155063678You made trans Lute a thing. Did she even have surgery? Is Lute still packing that Michael meat down there? Is that what she didn't get to tell Adam (" I didn't get to tell you I was originally a man"). Did she transition to have a shot at Adam (he doesn't like men)? Is Lucifer transphobic and cut ties with his bro after he became a woman?
>>155063747Yet we can't apply the same logic to Lute/Eve? Your hypocrisy is showing Bugcuck.
>>155063191If we’re looking at it “realistically,” I don’t think there’s a one-size-fits-all answer for what primordial Earth would have made either of them into. You’re dealing with two humans (or, depending on interpretation, two fundamentally different types of humans) who were created as-is, with no frame of reference for human development. They never experienced childhood, had parents, observed families, or belonged to a community that could teach them how people were supposed to function. Did being created as adults somehow grant them the emotional development an ordinary human acquires over decades? Did they have to develop it afterward? There is no real-world equivalent we can draw from.That’s why I’m not a huge fan of the Amazonian-warrior interpretation of Eve being treated as the natural conclusion of surviving primordial Earth. A hostile environment would absolutely shape her, but how depends upon her temperament and how she adapted to it. Motherhood is a good example. Even a young, isolated mother today has some conception of motherhood through her own childhood, society, or simply having observed children before. Eve had none of that. She had never been mothered, witnessed a pregnancy, cared for an infant, or even been an infant herself. Adam was operating from the same void. They had to learn how to survive while simultaneously figuring out how to be people, partners, parents, and a family. There are dozens of psychologically plausible outcomes from that alone. It wouldn't be far-fetched for them to have been the first abusive parents. (1/2)
It's not worth talking about trans Lute even if it's to own Bugcuck. Standards, guys.
>>155063844Even combat raises the same issue. How would they know how to fight if neither had ever seen combat? There’s room for innate knowledge, divine instruction, or simple trial and error, but those are assumptions we have to introduce and it would only take them so far. Their environment demanding certain skills doesn’t mean they automatically possessed them. Fighting, hunting, agriculture, medicine, childbirth, and parenting would all have to be learned somehow. Primordial Earth could certainly turn them into hardened and highly capable survivors over time, but they would begin from an extraordinarily unusual position: physically adult humans without the accumulated experience that ordinarily teaches an adult how to function."Realistically," Adam and Eve would have most likely died. (2/2)
>>155063812Ya see, here’s your problem: you’re assuming you’re debating someone acting in good faith.
>>155063863I kinda want to cement that as his legacy. That's literally his big theory. Trans Lute. Truly fitting when you consider his love of Jax.
>>155063793I don’t think Lute transitioned. Every exorcist we see is a woman and the only exceptions are Adam and Abel, who aren’t even actual exorcist warrior angels.
>>155063320>but Lilith Eve makes the most senseNope>>155063382>I'm betting you right before the Lute is Eve reveal come S3 he's somehow gonna change his theory last minute to Lute is EveHe kind of already did. At some point he conceded that Lute is a third attempt at a wife, a 'better Eve' than 'evil Eve' herself, and that her conclusion would be Adam changing her name to Eve. Basically taking on the 'real' Eve's identity, but being at better at it.>>155063416It's funny because it was actually my theory. Though he insists he's "taking it seriously". So... I guess he likes my ideas and doesn't want to admit it? Kinda weird but sure.>>155063494Basically Lute is anything except the real Eve. And when the show reveals she is, he'll make some other convoluted theory about how she's actually not -that- Eve. Or something.>>155063678Hazbin hasn't done any of this.>>155063863I concur
>>155063917Literally not worth it. I don't care how retarded and annoying he is.
>>155063917Wait, wait, can we make that a thing?Guys should we change his name from Bugcuck to TransLute?
>>155063958Yeah no I won't be calling him that.
>>155063958Brilliant. I agree. Seems like a good compromise if we're gonna stop talking about trans Lute as a theory(or more accurately Bugcuck delusion).
>>155063812Lute Eve has a lot more problems in that we know what Eve looks like and Lillith is right there with the matching appearance. And Lute’s hair is a completely different texture and she actually has an entire race that shares her features on a natural genetic level. A race that is completely ignored and undermined in every Lute Eve theory ever.
>>155063948>>155063989Someone wanting to grant Bug some dignity. That's a new one for the books.
>>155064003I don't give a fuck about Bugcuck, I just don't want tranny Lute headcanons.
>>155064001TransLute, that's not how that works. We've been over this.
>>155064016Interesting. Okay see, now we have to discuss Trans Lute even more.... I mean the fandom loves to call her a butch anyway so.
>>155063915I’m the only one that argues in good faith.
>>155064030How is *she* butch?
You might as well rebrand it as a guitarspear general since it's the only thing yall talk about
>>155064045No you don't TransLute. Don't lie. It's sinful.
>>155064048Ask the Lute Larpers for a more serious answer but from what I understand: her abrasive and dominating personality, her haircut (yes, her haircut), she's a soldier/a woman who can fight... Yup.I say she's extremely feminine actually. She fights in high heels, wears makeup and has a very dainty build. It's just cooler if she were butch though, according to them.
>>155064060Sure. Let's do that then.
>>155064060If you want talk about another subject just ask something or start a discussion. You need a conductor cabin to get the train going.
>>155063958I vote yes.
>>155064019Michael is based on the Gabriel design of Viv’s scrapped work and look at the hips. At best Gaberial was meant to be gender neutral.
>>155064099>Gaberial was meant to be gender neutralSo basically tranny shit.
>>155064099>Michael is based on the Gabriel design of Viv’s scrapped workViv's old artwork of Gabriel exists, yes.Where is your confirmation, or source, to when Viv said her version of Michael is based on this art of Gabriel. I need a link or screenshot please. Waiting.
>>155064099Sure, TransLute, sure.
From what I’ve gathered, it’s pretty obvious Lute/Eve went to Hell when she died and only ascended under the guise of Lute upon the deal that was struck 7 years ago.Why?Because if she ascended to heaven, there’d just be no reason for her to have the mindset she currently has. Fate hate determined her soul was worthy enough, regardless of any misgivings others might have.Hell, once they were fairly certain Pentious was on the level with the Speaker’s backing, then the Angels were more or less cool with him — if just a bit awkward.So yeah. Lute/Eve went to hell, got to witness first hand the festering crockpot of sin and wickedness it grew into, and hated it and humanity the more and more.Her going to hell would have only compounded her worldview on the hierarchy of the universe. If she had to be given the backstage pass to get into heaven, then how could Pentious earn it?
>>155064071lute’s shoes are more like Striker’s boots. They’re not high heels. And her “make-up” doesn’t get wet from her tears.
>>155064143>it’s pretty obvious Lute/Eve went to Hell when she died and only ascended under the guise of Lute upon the deal that was struck 7 years ago.Not sure about this one chief. So you're proposing the deal between Adam and Lilith was that Lilith bring back Eve to Adam? So he effectively knows who she is (rendering the conversation she had with hallucination Adam as useless), he cucks her and hadn't bothered to try and bring her back previously? Sorry, I don't buy this one.
>>155064174Nta but I'm pretty sure the deal here is between Eve and Lilith. Adam doesn't know about it. We don't actually have any confirmation that Adam is in on the deal or is even aware of it.
>>155064152There are a lot more trans/butch Lute supporters here than I thought. Color me impressed.
Ahh man I'll drop these threads if you guys force trans lute as a thing even if it's just to dunk on the bug, it's so cringe
>>155064115https://zoophobia.fandom.com/wiki/GabrielFemale hips.BreastsThe neck piece. The long gloves.The wings.The hair cut.
>>155064191>We don't actually have any confirmation that Adam is in on the deal or is even aware of itI actually agree with you, just wanted to say that right off the bat. However, on the surface, it seems pretty straightforward? Lute says "your deal" is done. Who else would she mean here except Adam? But again, I actually agree with you. I think the deal was between Lilith and Sera, or just Heaven as a whole. Adam has a single brain cell who can't keep his mouth shut with secrets. He can't be trusted. He would have boasted to Charlie and Lucifer about Lilith being up there.
>>155064174He's obviously not proposing that. Adam obviously doesn't know Lute's Eve because the deal that got Lute into heaven was just between her and Sera. It might have happened a lot earlier before the extermination and the seven years stuff.
>>155064143Magic man. Where does Lute even get the military things from then?
>>155064203You have a really weird aversion to trannies. Are you trans? Does this hit too close to home?>Ahh man I'll drop these threads if you guys force trans luteNobody cares. You don't need to announce shit. Bounce or don't.
>>155064174> So you're proposing the deal between Adam and Lilith was that Lilith bring back Eve to Adam? Not necessarily. Eve most likely came up with the exterminations as part of her own atonement for unleashing sin into the world.Remember that Adam was more or less the face of exterminations, he doesn’t come across as an ideas man. Why still don’t know for certain how much he knew or how much of the deal he was part of or privy too.Most likely, the main people involved were Sera, Lilith and Lute/Eve.
>>155064213This doesn't answer my question. Where is the explicit confirmation that this piece of Gabriel inspired Viv's version of Michael (regardless if she's Lute or not - she's not.) Waiting. Chop chop.
>>155064203They hate Michael Lute because it deconfirms their fragile Lute Eve world. So they would rather set the world on fire.
>>155064266Do we have to confirm it by Viv’s words instead of her actions?
>>155064245Maybe she was given training from top tier angels who were privy to the deal. The kind who’d drill into her,> “You’ve been given an opportunity to clean up your mess, kid. For the good of your soul, don’t mess this up.”
>>155064258Spell it out for me. So you're saying the deal had nothing to do with Adam, he didn't propose anything. He's out of the loop. Eve/Lute or Sera made the deal with Lilith to come back from Hell/have Eve ascend into Heaven?
didn't bug lute theory spawn from a conversation about invader zim like a month ago?
>>155064245Not MM but I don't think it would take Lute that much time to develop that military mindset. Like I don't think she needs ten thousand years in heaven to figure that stuff out. She could have maybe bought her way into heaven 100-30 years before the first extermination and figured it out there.
>>155064267Dude, you took the Lute Michael theory from the biggest Lute Eve schizo on this board. Do you know how stupid you sound?
>>155064267We just don't like tranny shit. You're the one forcing it TransLute.
>>155064296Someone had to teach her the military way of life/thinking. Let's humor the thought she's this amazonian strong woman... still no military training. The concept didn't even exist. Who trained her? The Elders? That's what we want to know.
>>155064282That doesn’t work when Abel isn’t given this training for some reason
>>155064332Because the commander position doesn't require formal training or skill. This is implied with Adam himself. Dude can't do proper combat. He just throws punches and lasers everything like a dick. He doesn't know how to do shit. Lute/Eve is the brains behind this man.
>>155064286Alright, Mr. Snippy.Short answer: possibly. Long answer: possibly, but I can’t give a definitive answer. This is the whole point of theorising. Coming up with ideas and working out what works and what doesn’t.It’s possible Adam was just the face (Eve would have no issue letting her big lug having all the credit) while having no real clue what was going on behind the scenes, or maybe he did. We don’t know. Well hopefully find out with S3.
>>155064316demasking adam and lute during random scenes is my favourite genre of fanart. really hammers it home that lute LOVES this shit, both her job and adam. she makes some amazing smug faces during 'hell is forever' iirc.
>>155064332Because he was never part of the plan. You have Lute( who's Eve) for the competent management and Adam as pure muscle and hype man. Why bother training Adam and Eve's bitch boy son that pisses his pants at the slightest confrontation? Simple you don't.
>>155064302He has no grasp of irony, subtext, or figurative language. That’s why he can watch Helluva Boss openly mock convoluted twin theories like Eve/Lilith and somehow interpret the joke as the show supporting the theory rather than ridiculing it. Or why he thinks the tweet Jessica Vosk was responding was her literally confirming that Lute isn't Eve because the OP was being humorous about it. He's slow.
>>155064382>You have Lute( who's Eve) for the competent management and Adam as pure muscle and hype man.This also fits with Viv's worldview of feminism. Women smart. Men dumb. Women mean. Men nice.
>>155064302You said the answer. She doesn’t support Michael Lute. I’m the very first true supporter of it.
>>155064408True. It feels very on brand for her.
>>155064408>adam niceentire theory dead now
>>155064389And so what is your actual evidence against Lilith Eve?
>>155064418No, Looty was. You’re just bastardizing the concept. Says a lot about your character: claiming you hate someone and their ideas, but then take their ideas. She's not going to suck your dick.
>>155064501I think he means those are the major types Viv likes to pick. We get either nice men or dumb men. Adam is in the dumb category.
>>155064535You’ve asked this a billion times already. The thread answers you, people repeatedly explain where you’re wrong, and you refuse every answer, then you throw a tantrum, play victim, and start the cycle over again. At this point, nobody expects a serious discussion from you. That’s why people just rage-bait you.
>>155064556Your mouth is full of unnecessary fornications.
>>155064591I'm not interested in roleplaying smut with you, you putrid incel.
>>155064587Gaslighting is not a substitute for actual evidence. The trading card is always more powerful than fanons.
>The trading card is always more powerful than fanons.There he goessssssss!!!!!
>>155064621Just draw the out.
>>155064603i don't know how to explain to you that hazbin hotel isn't yugioh. the heart of the cards is not here (but it should be).
>>155064670Nta. Anyone collect the Hazbin trading cards? I have maskless Adam and Lute. I know they're basically pointless mini prints but something about the trading card format scratches an itch in the brain
>>155064670It is Yugioh. You just lack the cards for your rogue deck to work.
>>155064670>>155064700>>155064704https://youtu.be/63IZ0jPMgwo?is=EvFT6VLPN70ur6dUBasically this but replaced every dude with Adam.
>>155064060It is and it's so based
chaggi is the puzzleshipping of hazbin hotel. basic and inoffensive, but somehow more boring in fanworks than the show itself (until you start getting really deep into the toxic codependency event horizon then it gets fun again).
>>155064928Adam has Eden tattooed on his knuckle. Nice.
>>155064936I like Chaggie>puzzleshippingHad to look up what that was but it makes sense that Yu Gi Oh uses the same ship naming conventions as Pokemon. I like that
>>155064928The skinny ass arms, I can't lol Hazbin really went with the ugliest body / build for first man Adam
>>155064982You say this but I would fuck his brains out as is
Pre show Hazbin fanon was better than post show Hazbin fanon.
>>155065007That's valid. I applaud your preferences.
>Jeremy Jordan says Lucifer is in all season 3 episodes and has a lot of screen timeI win. Best singer in the cast getting more songs. I wonder if Viv was saving funds for seasons 3 and 4 for him and that's why he had so little in 2.
>>155065047Season 2 is Viv pitching a spinoff for the Vees.
>>155064969they compete with the pokemon fandom for 'most obscure background characters shipped together solely for the sake of giving them a spot on the list' https://ygo-dm-shippings-list.tumblr.com/masterlist
>>155065073Sigh. They're not dying anytime soon are they. Fuck.
As much as I want Michael and other Lucifer "siblings" I'm doubting more and more that they're Hazbin canon. Viv has given absolutely no indicators that they exist and we have so little time and too many characters already.
>>155065073According to that one interview season 2 wasn't supposed to exist as it does and she used that time to pad out storylines so sure, I believe she also took the opportunity to set up a Vees spinoff. Season 2 is essentially a filler season and I think that will become clear once we get the rest of the story. Viv even admits the story actually gets going in season 3.
>>155065035True I guess. Adam and Lute existing as show only probably helped them a lot.
>>155065099That’s because we haven’t seen anything related to angels yet.
>>155065099In the Patreon Q&A, they confirmed that introducing additional major biblical figures isn’t really a focus outside of Adam and Eve (yes, those two were specifically named) and indicated that the figures they intend to explore have already been set up. That said, Viv allegedly “couldn’t answer” at a con last year when asked whether the Archangels, such as Michael, would appear. So I’m inclined to think the comment about biblical figures was aimed more toward human/scriptural figures like Jesus, Moses, Noah, etc., rather than excluding the established angelic hierarchy or figures like the Archangels. I'm almost positive those are who the Elders are.
>>155065081>>155065131vee spinoff implies they get significantly defanged by the end of the series, since the spinoff would have the forgone conclusion of either their deaths or redemptions from canon hanging over their heads. i never really cared or understood the fandom attachment to the vees, but then i guess those people would think the same way about me with adam and lute so fair enough.
>>155065134I just don't see the point. The story tension will come from Eve, Roo, eventually Alastor, and Charlie's inner demons. Michael, etc, would only serve to pad out Lucifer's backstory and would otherwise be pointless. They couldn't resolve anything, that's Charlie's job.
>>155065163> That said, Viv allegedly “couldn’t answer” at a con last year when asked whether the Archangels, such as Michael, would appear.Lute
>>155065075This is amazing. Every now and then I get the urge to go look up Yu Gi Oh cards as someone who's never played or watched it, I have no idea how the game works but some of the creature designs for the cards are just awesome
>>155065210No TransLute,
>>155065183I think that's exactly what will happen. All 3 will live and their "redemption" will be honoring their bond with each other since that is their only redeemable trait as characters. Their spinoff will be them just being lower tier bad guys creating schemes like Team fucking Rocket since they'll probably be softened and significantly defanged but not good guys by the time Hazbin is over. And honestly, that sounds exactly like something Viv would move forward with.
>>155065221i can't comment on the other yugioh anime like GX or onwards, but the original DM run is a good time if you're ever in need of a 2000s era shounen tournament anime. the dub and sub are basically two different shows in terms of tone which is kind of funny so watch whatever you end up enjoying more if you ever get into it, ignore anyone telling you one or the other. the manga's good too, you get some awesome character moments for certain characters that the anime either butchered or left out entirely.
>>155065247yeah everyone fantasising about angel, husk or charlie just murdering valentino are going to be left disappointed and i'd feel bad for them if they weren't so often so obnoxious about it.
>>155065247Fuck I wanted Valentino to get curb stomped.
>>155065325i mean he still might but unless it's carmilla doing the stomping with her angelic steel shoes he'll come back eventually.
>>155065359He'd probably be into that, lbr
>>155065294I'll put it on my watch list, sounds like nostalgia kino
Michael Lute feeling shame about breeding.
>>155065447She(he) doesn't have a womb. No breeding. It's just not possible.
>>155065447Nobody's gonna diddle Michael Lute, TransLute
>>155065635She does have one. Always been born with it.
I support Michael and Lute cucking Adam. There, I said it. I'm not sorry.
>>155065675He was born as Michael. A man. Despite what every tranny says they can never escape their birth identity and name.
>>155065678Huh???I'm not fully grasping what you're trying to say.
Haven't visited these threads in a while, how many schizo theorists are there now??
>>155065704No. A male exorcist would be smaller.
>>155065739The same four. Just with new material
>>155065751When did Viv confirm this? Waiting for a source, thanks
>>155065717I want SAINT MICHAEL and LUTE to FUCK NASTY in FRONT of Adam thereby KEKING HIM.
>>155065786Well I'm pretty sure we ain't getting Michael in Hazbin because Viv isn't that keen on pissing people off. Adam's kinda the closest Michael equivalent and if you ask TransLute Lute is actually Michael after he transitioned into a woman.
>>155065826Are you sure one of the Elders wouldn't be Michael? I'm kind of expecting that. But eh. You're probably right. Adam is the Michael stand-in. It would align with Mormon theology too, which Viv apparently uses for inspiration
>>155065842Lute has the M on her hair. That looks exactly like a Viv-styled M. Like the one you see on Adam’s pitch paper.
>>155065901Nope TransLute
>>155065842Pretty sure all of the elders are gonna be obscure angels or OCs like Emily.
>>155065926You think? I'm kinda on the fence about it honestly
>>155065304I don't think Viv cares too much about the Vees but members of her team do. And as long as it doesn't contradict or compromise her personal vision, she's pretty indulgent of her staff. Key team members love the Vees so they'll get more Vees , no skin off Viv's nose. But it goes to show that people who want the Vees to be more intertwined with the A plot of Hazbin moving forward, like RS fans want Vox to do something important with Alastor, will be disappointed. Their time has passed beyond Angel breaking Valentino's hold on him and Velvette's focus as a Vee will probably be very understated or overtaken by Lute as the "sleeper villain" and Eve revelations.
>>155065842I honestly feel like if Michael ever did appear Viv will just make him Blue Lucifer and say they are brothers.
>>155065325He will be, but he won't be perma-dead. I'd bet cash money that Valentino almost being killed will be Vox's catalyst to taking him and their relationship more seriously since major players love StaticMoth.
>>155065994If she goes with the twin blue Lucifer, I'm going to gauge my eyes out.
The star of season 3.
>>155066003It would be the point when Vel becomes the monster she is in season 4.
>>155065994Are Lucifer and Lute relatively the same size?
Vaggie is the worst waifu character ever.
>>155066516Seems like it. Not dissimilar to Eve and Lucifer's height actually
>>155066498i hope velvette becomes the worst vee by a mile specifically to annoy everyone who's ever tried to criticise guitarspear for being abusive and toxic while shipping lute with a woman who produces and sells date rape drugs.
>>155066765HER NAME IS VAGGI YOU FUCKIN CHUD!!!!!
>>155066898Her name is Vagyna, ackshually
>>155066839Lute is a midget in comparison to Eve.
>>155066498To what end I don't know. Velvette focus season feels like such a forced concept. Who's going to care about any of the Vees other than Voxfags who can't let go and shippers once the larger story with legendary figures gets going.
>>155066957Eve was standing in the frame she took the apple. Unless she contorted 360 degrees thigh-up to face Lucifer. She was standing and she's shorter than him.
>>155064060ok
>>155066995So she used Roo’s magic to make herself bigger.
>>155067339Lol no. Eve/Lute is a midget.
