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What makes a good cover, truly?
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THAT'S MY LOGAN BRUH
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>>155109311
it can be

-emotionally evocative
-showing contrast or juxtaposition
-action
-perspective
-comedy
-meta
-sex appeal

there are lists of aesthetic styles, but that's something that's incorporated
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>>155109311
Not false advertising, so if a character is on the cover, they better be significant to the story.
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cool posing
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>>155109311
Wolverine, apparently.
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According to Carmine Infantino
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>>155109516
>motorcycles
that's pretty crazy that so many ghost rider 2099 covers did not have a motorcycle
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>>155109534
>>155109538
>>155109543
Fuck off retard.
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There are a few things and it's really hard to quantify what exactly makes something iconic. But a few things that come to my mind off the cuff

Good Art. Seems obvious and over simplistic but it needs to be drawn well.

Something about it eye catching and shocking. A character death tease, a new character/costume, a fight we've been waiting for. It's job is to sell the inside story and you want to get people in on it. The cover needs to say this story will rock you.

The actual story has to matter. Or at least be very good. This is the big one but as much as we go on about the cover itself, the most iconic covers are always attached to the most iconic stories.

Basically a good cover is something that should make you want to read the comic. Which is overly simplistic but it's true.
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>>155109543
the marc spector moon knight #7 variant cover is pretty rad, and ghost rider is driving a flaming car
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>>155109544
no, i don't think i will
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>>155109311
Being iconic and really well done. Also attention grabbing.
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>>155109444
>false advertising
It can work depending on certain factors.
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>>155109804
really smart have your cake and eat it too cover.
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>>155109547
That about covers it
>Good art
>Visually striking in some way
>Tied to an iconic story or first appearance
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>>155110052
>That about covers it
CHARLOS!
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>>155109455
... is that all?
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>>155109804
where would her organs even be located @??
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Why are you faggots only posting dated or crap covers?
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>>155109311
>What makes a cover good?
One that makes you want to read what's inside, simple as.
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>>155109804
>asscheeks akimbo like she's about to take it up the dumper
What porno was this traced from?
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>>155109805
The original works because it carries the shock of several notable X-Men being captured or dead. This ripoff is lame because the only Jedi who are shown as being neutralized are fucking Glup Shitto jobber nobodies. The three who actually matter are still at large, which defeats the whole purpose of ripping off the X-Men cover.
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>>155109547
Story is definitely a notable factor. Absolute Batman's #1 cover isn't really that eye-catching in my opinion - yeah, Batman looks bigger, but other than that, it still looks pretty simple. Despite that, it gets referenced and homaged a lot because Absolute Batman itself is a popular comic
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>>155114441
Third Eye is great
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>>155114441
It gets referenced and homaged a lot because it’s the only significant thing to happen to the industry in fucking ages
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>>155109484
It's true.
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>>155109311
It's okay.
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>>155114441
It's funny cause this cover >>155109484 is fairly eye catching, but does anyone know what the story was? Trick question, no you don't because it was one of those disposable "the X-Men are hiding out in Australia pretending to be dead" issues. Parts of that arc are remembered, Jubilee and Gateway show up here, but the actual stories were completely whatever. Some anti-mutant people show up and string up Wolverine while everyone else is out then Psylocke disperses everyone and we're off to the next arc right before we get to the big early 90's reboot.

But it is a pretty good, evocative cover, even if the story isn't.
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>>155114855
You are right, absolute batman is THE COMICBOOK from this decade, for the better or the worse.
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>>155113401
totally agree.
justice league 2011 was a bad book, but it covers became iconic.
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Gorillas
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There are dozens of covers of Wolverine facing forward with his claws out and that's that
You see one, you've seen them all
It can be good and do a service to sell an issue sure but it's not gonna stick out

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>>155117818
This reminds me why the "Viltrumite group shot" went viral despite it just being a piece of the back of a collected edition of Invincible
It's fun when there's enough material to recontextualize the composition with various other characters and objects
And yet despite the changes it's still recognizable to the original pic and distinctively that original pic
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Gonna be honest
I think homage covers are more fun when they're homaging something less people would recognize or hasn't been homaged to the point of saturation
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>>155114441
I think it gets homaged because the absurdity of it made it iconic.
Sometimes covers become good/iconic not only because of what other anons said >>155109547 >>155110052 but because it's an unexpected, silly or just dumb enough that catches your eye. Like the heroes reborn captain america, venom holding spidey's skull or any super jerk cover.
Also here's a flash cover.
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>ctrl f
>"wanna make somethin' of it?"
>0 results
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>>155109311
Special guests artists.
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>>155114441
>>155114855
>>155117804
I like to call these sort of homage variants "convention print bait"
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>>155109311
my favorite in recent memory
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>>155114441
Absolute Batman 1 sort of bugs me. It's not a bad cover or anything but one of the things I've complained about is how all the reference and homage covers were to things much older and this is something new that's being iconic and referenced. But it's almost too new for that so it's obvious it's obvious it's less people paying homage to an iconic story but rather them jumping on a hype wagon and skirting the laws of plagiarism as best they can
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>>155119740
The transparent white border ruins it.
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>>155121096
I'm not a fan of the minimalist take either.
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>>155109439
He looks so deranged haha

Kinda makes since considering what he became in the present
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>>155114300
Eh, feel like it works given the jedi purge

Plus even if the x-men are being pushed by Disney fkr the movies, most x-men are glup shittos to normies anyways outside of sniktbub, chuck, mags, storm, gambit, and the summers family

Magik and emma are known by the gooners
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>>155109311
Good paper stock
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Some sort of umbrella.
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>>155109543
THEY'RE LIKE NO OTHERS
surprised I remember that OP
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>>155122216
WATCH OUT FOR SHREDDER
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Semi-related(?) but what does a super hero need to be good/stand out these days if they're completely new?
Of course good writing/arcs can carry even the simplest power(s) but besides that what council would you give? Or maybe "What not to do?" is a better question.
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>>155122263
Hard to say. A good hook would help but that won't really get you too far by itself. Honestly, I think it just boils down to patience. It takes a long time to really get a character over. Yeah the big guys hit hard when they landed but they took a while to build out their casts, their villains, their development wasn't overnight. Major companies have this really big problem where any character who isn't Batman or Spider-man huge instantly gets punted hard unless it's some creators pet. Conversely they also need to not blow their load the second they get any amount of traction.
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>>155122440
An effort in patience and restraint then... planning too. Thanks for the things to think about. Not that I'll be doing anything publicly soon, but if the idea for a hero is going to take shape in my mind and compel me to note things down I'd like to use that time sensibly. As it is I got really excited about the name and almost forgot to check and see there are a few characters with that name already.
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>>155122501
You need to give the people a reason to care. You can figure a lot out as you go. You'll probably want to make changes as you do anyway.
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>>155122599
>give the people a reason to care
Checked. I've already felt how easy it is to get swept up in why I care or felt like I had a "Eureka!" moment, but setting it up so a potential reader can connect those same dots is another matter. I appreciate the perspective check.
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>>155109985
Why is Nightcrawler nude on this cover
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From the past decada I will choose the uncanny x-force one.
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>>155109311
Wolverine is so cool.
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>>155109311
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>>155122599
What do you mean by care? I know i'm asking some super vague (i believe that's the right word) but could you list examples for it?
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>>155125372
These cocksuckers aren't good at comics.
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>>155126815
Also, terrible cover.
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>>155126238
>What do you mean by care?
Just something to really latch onto. Like take Spider-man for example. AF15 has no real villains. No real fights. It's a story of a down on his luck kid. He has a bit of a chip on his shoulder but loves his aunt in uncle. His power went to his head and he paid the price for it. If the brand of Spider-man never took off AF15 would still be a good story on its lonesome.
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>>155109439
This one's pretty bad.
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>>155113401
Because most (not all) modern covers are bland and generic
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>>155126815
correct
>>155127569
incorrect
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>>155117804
This is so forced. There's nothing in that cover to make it "le iconic" or "le memorable". We are truly in the dead era of culture. Everything tries to be le iconic and it just turns out to be cringe.
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>>155109439
This cover is very "AHEHUEUHAEHAEHAUHEUAHEAUHEAUHA"-coded
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>>155109311
More dead gentiles, Mr. Shooter
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>>155115226
You will never shop at the Reseda Blvd. Golden Apple.
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>>155117666
>but does anyone know what the story was?
Wolverine gets crucified by the Reavers. T
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>>155130800
>>155130844
>>155117666

Easy to blame the Reavers without asking (((who))) was manipulating the Reavers.
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make it fun
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>>155131870
clever
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>>155131870
>>155133744
Seconding
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>>155109804
spankable
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>>155109311
If the people who likes the cover are over 200lbs means its a good cover
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>>155128817
it's an example of meta. you know, like deadpool, a hugely popular character?
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>>155117804
If thats the comic of the decade then this is the comic cover of the decade for Marvel, both feel uninspired, weird and lame and of course forced love
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>>155130738
why does something from 1997 have to be "coded"? give it to me straight no cap fr fr
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>>155121784
it's supposed to slightly reveal invisible woman mouse. it's a visual thing
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>>155136125
i've never seen anyone say a single word about this cover
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>>155109985
Never seen Logan wear a watch.
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great artists make great covers
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>>155109311
>Popularity
>Importance to the character's development (coincides with popularity)
>Style
>memorabilty
>gorrillas
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>>155137362
>>155137343

Please tell me there is a cover with a skeleton gorilla on it somewhere. Skulls are so fucking cool they're almost as cool as gorillas. imagine both combined
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>>155137343
BADASS
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>>155138004
Hamboigahs
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I have OLD COVERS fatigue.

Post cover from 2000 onwards
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>>155109804
That pose is physically impossible
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>>155137362
Finally a horror or horror-adjacent enjoyer
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>>155140739
nu/co/ is so cucked, they wouldn’t even go in the door.
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>>155140396
I hope Genndy's Conan cartoon turns out alright
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>>155140548
So aren't like 90 percent of every Spider-MAN pose since Todd's run.
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>>155137362
I think of sun-fading whenever I see this shade of blue.



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