>Don't go into animation, get a real jobWhat if I can't fucking get one?
>>155112777Did you try your local fast food place?
>>155112788YesCan't get hiredHell, I got an offer for a retail job for 11 dollars an hour at an art store after a successful interview Days pass after accepting offer letter. I call to see when I might be starting, put on hold for 30 mins and then told that they went with another candidateI am actually considering either roping or drinking myself to death, it's fucking over. I'm 31 for Christ sake
>>155112777A lot of men are virtually unemployable right now sadlyPersonally, I don't think there are any actual jobs available and that 99 percent of listings are fake
>>155112777What makes you think there are open positions available for animation when all major studios are downsizing human artists in favor of slop generation software? Job options have absolutely cratered.At least now the megacorps who own all the slop models are finally tightening their belts and charging for tokens now that they've got all the studios hooked on their free samples. With any luck, smaller studios will get completely priced out of being able to generate slop and will be begrudgingly forced to return to hiring humans to make art.Just remember if you do wind up getting a job in animation, it is only because the studio you work for couldn't afford the many tokens necessary to generate slop. And they consider you and your skills to be the second best option available.
>>155112819Okey to be fair I dunno which jobs you have been tried to apply, maybe you can try for physical demanding jobs like construction work or mining if you can find them. My suggestion is that if you struggle with money you can always try selling your plasma just be sure to check which blood type you have and the confirm that the place your donating isn't voluntary and can actually pay you.
>>155112777There’s always the military.
ITT: Anons pretend that 90% of human animation work even prior to AI didn't come from Korea
>>155113108Not op but joining now is idioticWe're about to be sent to Iran for an Israeli sacrifice. If it were ten years ago I'd recommend it but not now
>>155113202Iran is a war that must be foughtThey are months away from nuclear weapons and we cannot let that happenPeople can meme on Israel all they want but the tit of the matter is that they are the best allies we have at the moment Remember that next time you want to talk shit
>>155112777Realistically you have no chance on getting in to animation as a career if you don't know someone who is or don't go to a circlejerk school like calarts. Best you can do is just work a normal job and do animation as a hobby. It's one of the most nepotistic industries there is.
>>155113273>Work a normal jobRead the OP
>>155112932>99 percent of listings are fakethank the jeets for that, yes even in the US
Meanwhile all the talking heads on TV will just say that you're not working hard enough and don't deserve healthcare.
>>155113273>calartscalarts isn't just a be all end all ticket to working in the industry. it goes for everything but if you aren't connected at the end of your studies there you may as well have not learned jack shit for how useful your degree will be (unless you want to spend years of your life making shit on youtube and praying someone will like your work enough to want you on their team). a majority of successful animators and writers even within indie today were there during a bubble. they got lucky.
>>155112777I have a real job and would kill everyone in it to work in animation
>>155112777Nobody can, we're in a second great depression, the entire economy is Nvidia and intel and OpenAI passing money back and forth.
>>155112932That's because a vast amount of those listings ARE fake.Between scams gathering people's information, positions with impossible requirements to get work visas, and positions only advertised to convince stretched staff that management is trying to hire you're far more likely to end up having sent a day's worth of resumes straight to the garbage.
>>155112777>What if I can't fucking get one?Your only option is to try and "hustle" online but good fucking luck when everyone is either poor or flake as fuckFor whatever reason the older generation can't seem to understand that "Just keep trying :^)" isn't very helpful advice nor something the current Gen's really wanna hear right now
>>155113551don't really think the older gen gives a shit dude lol. they're going to be dead by the time a majority of the twenty somethings now have to deal with what they caused
>>155112777SameNot even Walmart will call me backI'm losing my shit, I've been unemployed for four months
>>155113328> it goes for everythingNo it fucking doesn’t. Faggot bullshit.If I know how to weld, I can get welding jobs. Plenty of blue collar jobs got taken by immigrants with Literally Zero connections to anybody in America. Or even ability to communicate with their boss.Animation is a uniquely fucked place where people don’t want to learn the job, they want to learn how to do what everybody else is doing even if everybody is losing their ability to appeal to audiences and their jobs. Like some brain bug is driving seeing this as attractive. But it is true that drawing skill is a detriment in many ways before you get to the point that you can run projects on your own, so I hid mine.
>>155113753i mean everything in media, retard
>>155112777What's going to happen when most young men can't get jobs or afford to move out?
>>155113202They crash the economy when they need people to join the military
>>155112777Going to college sucks so hard when you’re going if late in your early 20s, I’m going for nursing but gosh I wish it was over so I can leave my current job and start making some dough
>>155114265Nothing.Americans are cattle
>>155113753>Read incredibly stupid post that's totally detached from reality>"Wait...">Look at the name>It's guyThis retard would literally die before forming a coherent thought
>>155114557who the fuck is guy
>>155114265Optimistic: This leads to some kind of proper wealth distribution for the lower classes.This supports them for potential future job opportunities which open up as a means to provide the reasonable economic buildup much like the people living during early stages of capitalism. Work a job, buy a house, retire sometime in your 50's, live off the fruits your labor. Pessimistic: A rise in homeless as young adults not in education, employment or training, NEETs are forced out on the streets. People continue to frame this as the personal failures of the individual. Parents continue to blame their children for not contributing to the house. Others continue to see it as reasonable as they do not do anything. The government functions as normal for those have already got "theirs" in terms of being economically stable and refuse to help others up.
>>155116134Both categories for the job parts are also assuming the job prerequisites will change for their respective category. So for example...Optimistic: Lower job requirements allow more to people to jobs and make reasonable wages.Pessimistic: Job requirements remain high to where having a degree of any kind, even PHDs, is still no longer enough to get a decent paying job.
>>155116134Pessimistic is far more likely
>>155113778The realm of faggot bullshit.You didn’t say “faggot-minded jobs only.” And this is especially important since there’s no reason for independent art to work that way either.>>155114557By “reality” and “coherent” you mean being psychologically attached to your social group in animation so you can laugh and goon to treating me like a puppet and diverting me from my artistic goals.
>>155114265>>155116134Did you guys sleep through history class?The answer to "what happens to a shitload of poor men with no prospects" is war or indenture.
>>155114964in a nutshell guy is an untreated closeted homosexual schizophrenic that thinks he invented Homestuck and can alter reality with his mind.If you really want to deep dive you can look up manlyburger on substack, there's enough psychotic ranting there to fill a lifetime of psych papers.
>>155116731I hope they do draft because it will be the ultimate test to see if (((they))) were really right about the goyimAnyone who complies should be castrated
>>155116731KekThey're just going to let you starveThe admin knows they can't actually win a war against Iran or China
>>155113244Cope
>>155113244They've been 2 weeks away for the past 30 years. Check your facts.
>>155112777only viable animation job in the west is making porn on twitter
>>155116887>>155116878Well now they're closer than ever and you all refuse to protect your countryAnd you have the gall to call yourselves "men"
>>155116925Now I see why porn artists have regular YouTube channels to promote their work.
>>155112932There are plenty of jobs if you stop filtering out anything that requires standing up. I work in AV and we’re struggling to find good workers that want to stay in AV. All the applications are from people looking for a part time or summer job, people who don’t understand that you have to use a drill to mount a display, or people that think it’s just about sitting at a computer and turning knobs until the static goes away.
>>155118216What do you think retail is faggot?
>>155116626>so you can laugh and goon to treating me like a puppet and diverting me from my artistic goals.ooh, i love posters like this, you can tell they are nuts already. keep posting?
>>155117079>just two more weeks bro trust me
>>155116878Arrest...
