Why is everything ironic and insincere now? Why does everything need quippy ironic humor to take away all feelings from the audience? How much more media like this do we need?
>>155124035That's exactly what killed the new MOTU movie for me. It gets so annoying.
>>155124035>Why is everything ironic and insincere now?because when you use buzzwords with this level of vagueness, anything can be ironic and insecure>Why does everything need quippy ironic humor to take away all feelings from the audience?dialogue has always tended to be quippy for anything with even remote mass appealunless its some boring drama where people have to always be serious, then snappy dialogue is mandatorytheres a reason why Schwarzenegger is synonymous with them
>>155124035Because being sincere is cringe.
>>155124035does now mean the last 12 years
>>155124063if this thread is to be believed, then sincerity is just the opposite of having funny jokes
>>155124063You are cringe
>>155124035These jokes feel so old, like the corniest guy on late 00s internet got to finally be a writer.>>155124050You’ll suck any cock to progress your animation career
Milennials are the writers and showrunners now, and their life experience comes mostly from other TV shows they watched, with the a quirk, they transported those TV quirks to real life. Look at a milennial talk, it's as if they are pausing for the laugh track or for their nonexistent audience to appreciate their facial gestures. So, of course, that real life behavior loops back into fiction and creates doubleironyplus.
>>155124035Rick & Morty was a mistake
>>155124063If you're ashamed of being yourself, perhaps you should change who you are.
>>155124088When everything is cringe, nothing will be.
>>155124094Wasn't this staged?
>because when you use buzzwords with this level of vagueness, anything can be ironic and insecureWhy does the Vagueposter always accuse others of the crime for which he is guilty? Why do they always insist on feigned ignorance and mock disapproval to cover up their own vast intellectual shortcomings?
>>155124128the absolute irony of demanding more sincerity, as vague as they make it sound, while also calling everything cringe at the same time is pitiablethey consider vulnerability a weakness and then wonder why everyone has walls up
>>155124158imagine the crime of pointing out that people will just pull words out their ass
>>155124035Whedon.
>>155124093writers yeah, show runners no. most show runners are still gen x, and this kind of steeped in irony snark is pure gen x.
>>155124172rent free
>>155124124That's tranny behavior.
Did there really need to be yet another thread when there was two up still?
>>155124159Vulnerability IS a weakness, and the punishment for weakness is death. Excruciatingly slow, agonizingly painful death.
>>155124187Don't project
>>155124035>he wants a serious golden axe cartoonlmao
>>155124195yeah, and now you know why people dont want to be "sincere" or whatever the hell you people mean by that
>>155124195Apply that to yourself, subhuman
>>155124198Go back
>>155124159it's why these faggots always whine and complain, but never create anything they want to see they never want to make the shows they want to watch and always come up with excuses
>>155124050>dialogue has always tended to be quippy for anything with even remote mass appealIt was different back then compared to right now. The dialogue has 100% degraded in media. BTAS had a few jokes but they didn't feel like modern dialogue.
>>155124202The ultimate goal is to eliminate humanity's capacity to care about anything. To reduce all of humanity to hollow, soulless drones that are incapable of a single original thought. To permanently ruin everything good about the human race, and make everyone be their worst possible self.
>>155124234>It was different back then compared to right nowah yes, instead of making quippy, snappy dialoguethey made quippy, snappy dialogue
>imagine the crime of pointing out that people will just pull words out their assJust because you have the vocabulary of a 10 year old doesn't mean words are meaningless It's ironic, because the writers insist on subverting the source material and it's tropes and will doubtless do so throughout the show as well>Inb4 But you can't know...Yes I canFurthermore, it's insincere because the writers HATE the source material. This isn't good natured ribbing by fans, this is CONSTANT meta, self referencial humor, which stopped being funny almost a decade ago now.>Inb4 maybe not funny to (You) CHUD...Well maybe it's funny to you, but look at you, you're defending a shitty Paramount+ cartoon. Your taste doesnt count for shit.
>>155124239If you think the writing quality of 80s/90s media is the same as right now you are retarded
>>155124240>Just because you have the vocabulary of a 10 year old doesn't mean words are meaninglessyou are just throwing out big words like sincerity around without any real meaning behind what the hell thats supposed to meanits just vagueness disguised as depth
>>155124069*30+
Don't know.Don't care.Watching harem anime till this changes.
>you are just throwing out big words like sincerityOh lawdy lawdy laaaaaawd!
>>155124093>it's as if they are pausing for the laugh track or for their nonexistent audience to appreciate their facial gesturesOh damn.
>>155124235Kys, troon
>>155124198Not op but what is the original about? Is it a comedy?
>>155124261Okay buddy, whatever you say.
>>155124235They hate it when you speak the truth. It brings all their inadequacies to the surf and makes them lash out despite their best efforts to seem calm and uneffected.
>>155124267the concept of a "beat" where you give a slight pause for comedic effect has been around longer than the laugh trackthe laugh track was invented simply to create a consistent laugh during those beats because a live studio audience might stop laughing after the fifth time they heard the same joke
>Kys, troonSaid the troon.
>>155124271golden axe was a straightforward beat-em-up where all the plot was in the manual no one read
>>155124284Ok
>>155124282Nice selfie
>>155124271you fight a big muscled dude called death adder or something and he screams like a chump when you kill him
>Nice selfie
>>155124075I was gonna say - there's not problem with a Golden Axe show being a self aware comedy. The problem is that it isn't fucking funny.That "FOR YURIA" bit is a horrific mangling of such an easy simple joke. I don't care where in the process that joke became such a fucking tragedy but this show doesn't understand the basics of comedy.
>>155124316Faggot
>FaggotThat's it, cry for me.
>>155124345Nice seething.
>>155124093>>155124267>>155124277Ok this is bothering me too muchThe beat where a laugh track gets inserted is not a natural comedic or performance beat. It comes from shows that were shot live in front an audience and it's the actors freezing the scene because the audience is too loud for them to continue. Later multicam sitcoms used laugh tracks and had the actors just take pauses on the set because that was the established sitcom formula.Comedic beats are totally missing from the trailer and likely the show, as these crappy animated comedies always have a breathless pace that feels like a show on 1.5x speed. They come BEFORE the punchline and exist to build tension for comedic resolution.Here's an example of a comedic beat of silence:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNH4927tZRk
>>155124146Yes but nigga still screamed in a mcdonalds
>>155124181I accept your concession
>>155124093This guy doesn't actually talk to people, he just extrapolates what he thinks they sound like from media.
>>155124198Who asked for a Golden Axe cartoon?I loved the Genesis version, it's a good game. I don't need a cartoon of it, serious or comedy.
>>155124464you literally just brought up whedon out of the blue like a boogeyman who haunts your every waking moment
>This guy doesn't actually talk to people, he just extrapolates what he thinks they sound like from mediaAnd this guy is just seething mad that the first guy hit the nail on the head and he feels called out.
>>155124276And that's why everyone needs to be dragged down to the same level.
>>155124234>BTAS had a few jokes but they didn't feel like modern dialogue.Robin, pass me the Bat-thingie.
Oh you guys are having an internet fight, I'll leave you fags to it then.
>>155124506They've gotta keep a hold of those creative rights. Not that they want to actually do anything with them, they just don't want anyone else to have them. So they shit out an awful little cartoon series to refresh them and then go back to sitting on the IP for another decade.
>>155124517Yup. It's all self loathing and projection form these trannies.
>Oh you guys are having an internet fight, I'll leave you fags to it then.Yeah dude, go back to sucking dick.
>>155124518Yep that doesn't feel like modern dialogue. I genuinely ask you to rewatch Btas and compare it with the capeslop we get nowadays.
>now
>>155124567Yes, fag
>>155124510>>155124552What do you think you're accomplishing here?
>>155124627He's arguing with himself
>What do you think you're accomplishing here?Making you very angry>>155124653I'm not one of the voices in your head
>>155124737You are the one angry here
>You are the one angry hereThat's it baby, keep crying for me.
>>155124506>Who asked for a Golden Axe cartoon?The braindead execs and/or shareholders
>>155124769Stop projecting
It's written by millennials and paid for by people who tell them "hey, Rick and Morty and the MCU made a quadrillion dollars can you try doing that too"
>STOP PROJECTING CHUD!!!He said, projectinglyAnyway, do we know if the cat is a fag. He sure acts like one.
>>155124822Yeah, it all comes down to this.
>>155124822>>155124851You're closeIt's literally made by the co-creator of Rick and Morty.
>>155124858That explains so much
>>155124837No
>>155124063This is sadly the reason. Disingenuous faggots have a problem with anything that tries to be earnest and honest.
>>155124790I'm not sure Sega execs want this kinda content. Remember the Japanese board cancelled Hyenas literally weeks before release
>>155124198People can be laid back, funny or whatever without calling out tropes in universe.
>>155124944Earnestness and honesty have no place in today's world.
>>155125935No
>>155124063Shit like this is the reason why you have so many pieces of garbage. And I hope you get what you deserve.
It's trash, but I move on.Not worth getting angry at it.
>>155124035This is the same website that mocked a guy for crying over Star Wars, i.e. expressing sincere emotion over his childhood favorite movie series. And the same website that mocks le panic attacks in cartoons. Make up your mind, will you? Is sincerity good or bad? I think I knw the answer and you don't actually want sincerity and all the gay vulnerability it entails, you just want masculinity and action media tropes played straight but you don't know how to articulate it. You're welcome.
>>155124035Sincerity is vulnerability. If you are sincere and people say your shit sucks, that’s an attack on you. Aka the people making these projects are cowards.
>>155126215>This is the same website that mocked a guy for crying over Star Wars, i.e. expressing sincere emotion over his childhood favorite movie series.Everyone did because it was pathetic not emotional
>>155126239Well, then there's your answer. People make quippy dialogue instead of the stuff you like because they think the stuff you like is pathetic, they think about you liking it the same way you think about that guy.
>>155126318Cope
>>155126357Cope about what? It's just the truth.
>>155126318>People make quippy dialogue instead of the stuff you like because they think the stuff you like is pathetic, they think about you liking it the same way you think about that guy.Uhm that guy was liking a modern quippy garbage movie so I am seeing a little contradiction here
>>155126215People mocked him because he was crying over an advertisement, and worse, filming himself doing it.No one is going to mock someone for crying over something like Grave of the Fireflies.Posts like this are why no one watches cartoons anymore, always some retarded excuse to explain why the creators make nothing but trash.
>>155124075Do you think the line "Ram Man! Give them head!" with a beat and both men looking visibly disgusted and the one who uttered it saying "yeah that's bad . . ." is funny?
>>155124146>"Joke's on everyone, I was pretending to be retarded!"
Consider this:Something about keeping us in an endless state of humiliation so we never fight back.It's like one of the slave archetypes is a retarded clown with a nervous laughter and that's what they want us to be.A completely apathetic loser who laughs as the world falls into ruin around them.>haha lets laugh at the ruins of our own civilization, we are winning!
>>155126766No
>>155124035>Golden Axe, by way of Mike McMahan I don't know why I'm surprised
>>155124035THIS SHIT IS FUCKING ANNOYING.Imagine if Conan cracked a joke at the end of every sentence or if Samurai Jack explained everything that was on screen,STOP DOING THAT.
>>155126215Do you mean that giant fat manchild with the huge boil on his face when he was watching the nu-Star Wars trailer and it was such a fake and forced cry/laughing. >"Like, omg, girlboss Ray, I'm gonna cry-coom!"Yeah, he was mocked because he was an obvious shill.
>>155124035Because modern writers are shit and lack genuine wit.See also joke free comedy series where they confuse quirky with funny.
>>155127757Cus' it's written by a bunch of people who never even had to get dirty once in their lives. Nor do they understand nor care about the primal aspects of masculinity, which aren't some goyslopper numale metrosexual manchild who cracks shitty safe-jokes and being "vulnerable" and open 24/7 to talk about their insecurities. That's foid shit that doesn't even work for them half the time.
>>155127892Nice tears
>When you could do a funny and still be pretty serious action cartoon.Ah, those halcyon days...
>>155124035Because stuff that used to appeal to geeks now has to appeal towards everyone. So they have to mask it in irony so normalfags don't feel geeky watching it
>>155127922It's not my money they're pissing away. Kek. They could make anything and they make offbrand nu-male Conan without probably ever reading Conan or at the very least watching the Schwarzenegger Conan movie.
>>155127922Stfu
>>155127976Zoomie>>155128023You first
>>155124035>video game->other media adaptation is dogshitWow who woulda thunk?
>>155124063>t. aging millennial
>>155124035If you squint at the thumbnail it looks like Luigi
>>155124035I blame the post modernist movement.
Everyone writes like it's an abridged series.
>>155129763Are there any good abridged serieses still running?
>>155124050>b-but muh FORCED SOUL
>>155124063Most “sincere” shit is just more hipster or otherwise political / ideological oneipmanship, obsessed with spiting an ironic or whatever the fuck boogeyman.
>>155124093>it's as if they are pausing for the laugh track or for their nonexistent audienceI do this. I am the actor and the audience of my own show
>>155124192That trailer is so offensively bad it will spawn countless threads and xitter replies whenever mentioned. Shit was so ass literally
