She is not even the most loved female superhero (Starfire). Wolverine and Iron man are more popular.
>>155156428First well known female superhero. That's why. You knew that of course, you're just wanting to cry about women because your HS crush never knew you existed.
>>155156498>Muh History>Muh feminismI mean That's just a dry fact for history books it doesn't magcally make her a top 3 beloved superhero.
>>155156428hulk deserves a spot there more than ww
>>155156428She is the most well known superheroine.She has the weight of history on her side.Wonder Woman is in competition for first female superhero, depending on definition, and had the good fortune to actually be successful enough to be remembered. Giving her two points of notoriety bumping her up in the public consciousness over the decades.Fantomah (a magical jungle girl) and The Woman in Red (standard mask and trenchoat crimefighter) both predate her but aren't entirely superheroes. Hawkgirl also technically suited up the first time two weeks before, but was a supporting character.
>>155156615>She is the most well known superheroineGlobally?
>>155156428Wolverine or Iron man should be there instead of her.
>>155156615>Muh History>She has a vagina! That's all ww shills can do to justify it, but she is not that beloved in real life. Hulk and Wolerina are more popular
>>155156498>you're just wanting to cry about women because your HS crush never knew youLMAO I love how you are projecting your trauma in a superhero thread.
>>155156610>hulk fucking WHO?
>>155156615>>155156498>Muh historia>She has a vagina!>Muh feminismAnd not a single proof she is a top 3 beoved character. She just is ...because she just is ok.
>>155156644Iron Man only became iconic after the mcu moviesWolverine even deserving to be on the monument is debetable
>>155156716>Iron Man only became iconic after the mcu moviesSo? He is more ppopular than wondy
>>155156628Yes. Superheroes were for the most part a Western/American cultural product. Wonder Woman's star spangled panties are synonymous with manifest destiny
>>155156732So was Spawn 30 years ago, you think he's Mount Rushmore material too
>>155156766>So was Spawn 30 years agoUh so not the first time she has been irrelevant...
>>155156428Raven is more loved than Starfire and Wonder Woman is more loved than both.>>155156732He's more popular than Superman as well. Perhaps he should take his place.
>>155156791>>Raven is more loved than Starfire and Wonder Woman is more loved than both.
>>155156428The real question is why is Spider-man on a lineup of DC heroes?>>155156791>Raven is more loved than Starfire and Wonder WomanMost people don't even know who Raven and Starfire are. And the majority who do only know of them from Toon Titans or TT-Go.
>>155156498>First well known female superheroSupergirl was more well known and batgirl was more well known and popular before her. >>155156615>Wonder Woman is in competition for first female superhero,Teh fuck are you high on?
>>155156801nta but both of these are accurate and it's not even remotely close. 03 Raven is wildly more popular than 03 Starfire and comics Starfire is a borderline afterthought. Both of them are pretty irrelevant compared to WW outside of maybe the niche sliver of people who grew up watching 03 cartoon. WW is a legacy popular character, like most of the Avengers were pre-MCU, when nobody (in the mainstream) still gave a fuck about Thor, or Iron Man. She has lingering popularity from Linda Carter's era, but she translates very poorly to modern sensibilities on all sides of the aisle.
>>155156836>The real question is why is Spider-man on a lineup of DC heroes?Who said it was just DC? >Most people don't even know who Raven and Starfire are. And the majority who do only know of them from Toon Titans or TT-Go.So? Wondy is know for a Gal Gadot movie nowdays. She hs been irrelvant in decades
>>155156428I feel like characters like Catwoman and even Harley Quinn are more loved than Starfire, if only because more normies know who they are. I mean, I wouldn't really call them heroes, but they're usually semi in that role these days.
>>155156858>>Both of them are pretty irrelevant compared to WW No, Patrick your discord server is not represntative of "everyone" in the world.
Spider-Man>power gap>Batman>Iron Man>power gapSupermanHulkWolverineThe most popular Claremont Era X-MenDeadpoolThe MCU era AvengersWonder WomanDeadpoolThe rest of the main Justice LeagueThe Fantastic Four
>>155156891Zoomers and alpha know raven and starfire more.Oldsters who run things and don't actually like comics use WW because creeper feminists women who don't actually read comics/DC/WB only push her. She's not as popular as they say she is and she's pushed because of her sketchy origins and being superman adjacent in terms of power while not being a female version of a more popular hero. Even in the DCU/"timmiverse" she's barely used and Hawkwoman got the better storylines.
>>155156986Deadpool is more popular then Batman right now so...
>>155157044This. Finally someone with some sense.
>>155156428If wonder woman: TAS existed, no one would contest her place
>>155156894Do you think the average 50 year old you pull off the street has any fucking idea who the fuck "Starfire" is? Do you think they know who Wonder Woman is? What do you think is more likely, some rural Chinese person knowing Raven or Wonder Woman?Don't be a fucking retard. Every Teen Titan besides Robin is small beans, and Robin is only notable from conflated misunderstanding because the average layman does not even know there ARE multiple Robins so he is just perpetually "Robin the boy wonder, batman's sidekick". Wonder Woman is out of style but has a long-enduring cultural sweep from when she was huge.
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>>155156428She's a good balance and foil to Bats and Supes that keeps every disagreement between them from turning into TDKR, but she's extremely weak as a standalone character in comparison.
>>155157107>She is the only one Boomers recognize!Weird flex, but ok.
>>155156870>Who said it was just DC?Because it's all DC and then there's just one Marvel character. It makes no sense.>>155156870>So? Wondy is know for a Gal Gadot movie nowdays.And the DCAU, and the Lynda Carter show from the 70s.>She hs been irrelvant in decadesFactually incorrect because she's the most well known female superhero in history. She's been in the public conscious for over half a century. Hell, even I knew who Wonder Woman was as a small child a full decade before she showed up in the DCAU or even knew she had a TV show at the time.>>155156894And yet still, that anon is correct. Raven and Starfire are specks of ice compared to the iceberg that Wonder Woman is.
>>155157134That just prooves who has been more googled in last year up to 2022.
>>155156428Starfire (and Raven for that matter) is popular amongst people that grew up watching Teen Titans on CN. Wonder Woman is known across age groups because of different adaptions like the Linda Carter show and the handful of JLA animated series. Even the Gal Gadot version had it's level of popularity.
>>155157169> It makes no sense.It does to us neurotypicals.>Factually incorrect because she's the most well known female superhero in historVauely being known and being beloved are ttwo different things
>>155157169Because she's liked or because she's the designated female character that was constantly pushed? What's your favorite WW storyline from anything other then comics. What cool thing did she do that you can recall? There's a big difference between being known for just being there and known for standing out.
>>155157194Then tangible provide evidence that shows that Starfire and Raven are more popular.
>>155156891But I wasn't talking about WW.
>>155157220This.
>>155157202I know you used to beat off or flick the bean to WW back in the 70's or whatever.But no one under the age of 55 gives a fuck about the WW tvshow and even fewer caresa bout the gal gadot money laundering operation aka the WW movie.
>>155157230It' just proves some people googled her in a span of 3 years. It doesn't prove they had her as their favorite. Now do sales TTG vs WW merchandise, I'll wait.
>>155156428>most loved female superhero (Starfire). >Wolverine/Iron man are more popular.
>>155156615What about Red Tornado?
>>155157237I'm a dude and grew up on Teen Titans, love Raven and Starfire, but also watched the JLA show from around that time, I'm just pointing out she's a recognizible character to people of all ages.
>>155157264Nobody will give a flying fuck about what's his name from whatever than Mon-gah is called.
>>155156765>YesMy ass
>>155157288Okay, boomer.
>>155157250What's stopping you from providing the data? Surely you have the figures to substantiate your claim.
>>155157266Beat Wonder Woman by about two years to a costume. But resides in the fuzzy area from being a comedy supporting character from the Scribbly strip.
>>155157220>Because she's liked or because she's the designated female character that was constantly pushed?It's halvsies. People liked her 70s show and her part in the DCAU. I'm sure there are people who like her comics, but I truly can't say about that. And it's because of that she was in shit like the Injustice games and Zack Snyder's shitty DC movies.>There's a big difference between being known for just being there and known for standing out.In this case, not for her. She's known for just being there and standing out because she's the first female superhero. Being a woman was what made her stand out. She's the first and had managed to maintain popularity over the ones that came after her. That's why Huntress or Vixen or Black Canary or even Harley Quinn (a character who is actually pushed because she should't even be a superhero) haven't surpassed her. Hawkgirl and maybe Powergirl are the only ones that come close to her, but Hawkgirl falls short because she was only liked for the DCAU (but she may get a shot with more appearances in Gunn's movies) and Peeg is just relegated mostly to the comics because she appeals largely to a particular demographic that DC doesn't want to cater to at large.
>>155157349Not being autistic
the mount rushmore is always going to be batman/superman/WW/Spiderman because what represents (eras) trying to put another character is beyond retarded and show people dont even know what that monument is about. is like retarded animefags will say stupid shit like the next big three or something.
>>155157766>Muh history.Yawn always the same exuse, and feminism and 'cause vagina.
>>155156428Why is wonder woman on the Mt Rushmore of super heroes?Grab any random person and tell them to name 3 supes it's superman, batman, spider man.2Super man batman1Super manAsk them to name 4 and then you'll start getting unique answers.
>>155157812This.
>>155156428WW being shoehorned there will always be retarded. Bitch doesn't have any iconic runs, rogues, or even covers. She never had actual fans in her lifetime, she *only* has recognition. She will never not come off as an industry plant whenever she's put in any kind of top ten, top five, or these mount rushmores villain mount rushmore is objectively this btw
>>155156498Called that shit immediately.
>>155158044I think Thanos probably beats Doom thanks to the MCU now, maybe even LokiJoker is probably going to be number 1 unless they fixate on the term "super" but it wouldn't suprise me to see 4 batman villains there
A superhero Mount Rushmore should have Spawn for Teddy Roosevelt or something.
>>155156498>>155158085Anons always their personal trama as insults.
>>155158044>Bitch doesn't have any iconic runsRetard. The 86 George Perez is almost universally praised.
>>155157766No body cares about WW.
>>155158249>Retard. The 86 George Perez is almost universally praised.By whom? A niche grouo of middle aged comic book nerds? >Old ass. 86's run The USRSS literally was still a thing around that time.
>>155156615Yes, see the Shadow or Doctor Savage, once some of the biggest names around, now they don't even appear in the "upcoming public domain characters" list
It's clear as fuck that she isn't popular and doesn't belong up there with Bats, Supes and Spidey.She's nowhere near them at all.
>>155156428No Wonder Woman is more loved than Starfire by actual comic readers and most normies. I don’t think most kids even think of Starfire as a hero and know her more as a gag charecter from teen titans go.
>>155156610Not after the MCU they ruined the Hulk. Hulk saddest there is.
>>155157044Zoomers and Alphas know them from Teen titans go a gag show. I really don’t think they see them as a hero’s. Also if this is a comic book Mount Rushmore then they absolutely know Absoulte Wonder Woman.
>>155156428All four should be Deadpool.
>>155158328That's a very strange choice. Might as well put Harley Quinn in there too.
Top 3 should be Spider-Man, Joker, and Ironman in that order.
>>155158328>The Big FourLuffySteven UniverseMarioIron Mouse
>>155159053comic readers are jusa niche of nerdy middle dudes
>>155157766Supermen reps 30s/70sX men the 80s/90sBatman the 90s/2000sSpider-Man the 2000s+So why’s Wondy there?
>>155156428Absolute ww has been outselling spiderman
>>155159364Cool. Now do the movies.
>>155156428Because Wonder Woman is the most known superheroine.Especially one that has her own mythology and not a spinoff of an existing male hero.
>>155159387>Especially one that has her own mythology and not a spinoff of an existing male hero.You do know other female superheroes besides wondy exist, right?
>>155156986Fuck off dude Batman and Spiderman are on equal footing
>>155159380She’s up there
>>155156986>>155157061>Batman>Lower than either of those twoZoomers really are retarded.
>>155159441Batman hasn’t been in shit for a while. Arkham games ended a decade ago. Last good animated Batman was brave and the bold. Last relevant Batman films were the Nolan films which ended a decade ago. On one cares to read comics anymore. So why would anyone care for him?
>>155159433>moving the goal postI love how you conviently didn't show the latest spider-man movie outgrossed hers.
>>155159498Why would anyone argue WW is outselling Spider-Man movies? The point is she’s not a nobody.
>>155159534Wonder Woman is the reverse potential man meme, she is always getting the short end of the stick, because of this, some believe she is a c lister nobodie.
>>155159505The problem is the constant reinventions, instead of building on what was done before, they constantly throw everything out.AWW actually is reusing old material, making people aware of it.
>>155159505No that's just your autistic hangup.
>>155159534>The point is she’s not a nobody.Moving the goal post again. The topic says she is not a big 3. Nobody said she is anobody you are bsing that becuase you know damn well spider-man is more popular.
>>155159612Yes, the constant revamps screwed her cast, and Donna.AWW kind of is avoiding the problem for now.
>>155156498Look at the melty this caused
>>155159816Hardly. It's what all redditor drones say.
>>155156428Comics Starfire is completely different from the Starfire people like from the Teen Titans cartoon.
>>155156428>Starfire
>>155160118Nobody claimed otherwise.
>>155159409>You do know other female superheroes besides wondy exist, right?Evidently not because nobody gives a shit about the rest that aren't coomerbait.
>>155160181>Evidently not because nobody gives a shit about the rest that aren't coomerbait.WW was literally created because her creator had a dominatrix fetish.
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>>155160215Then no wonder why she's remained popular all these decades.
>>155157325Okay zoomer.
