>analyzes you favorite cartoon in a pithy, irreverent manner
>>155197520She'd likely do the same to your penis if you paid her enough
OSP went downhill when she stopped sharing her opinions on cartoons. I already use TVTropes, I don't need a Youtube channel for it.
>>155197520>ruins online discourse on greek mythology much more than it already has
Why did people watch her?Was it really just horny boys?
>>155197665>boysInteresting phrasing, anon...
>>155197520Every word out of her mouth is more moronic than the last. She's nothing but a trope obsessed idiot who thinks an afternoon with TV Tropes makes some an expert and can't process any information unless it's through the window of pop culture. She has no sense of quality and is a constant culprit of pushing the fallacy of presentism on historical and classical works.
>>155197732I'm trying to pretend men wouldn't be wasting time watching youtube essays.
>>155197520idk who this is but this style is strikingly similar of an hyperscat artist i used to goon to
>>155197814>I'm trying to pretend men wouldn't be wasting time watching youtube essays.men waste time watching other people play video gamesyou are willfully stupid
>>155197665>Why did people watch her?Miscellaneous Myths and Legends/Classics summarized
>>155197823Is something bugging you today, anon?
>>155197748all these types are the same>"Lol, Achilles and Patroclus were GAY GAY GAY!">*proceeds to ignore that they would have owned female sex slaves*
>>155197520>literally does the equivalent of pic related except with pacific rim scenes in a half assed attempt to defend her cataclysmically shit taste and opinions I wonder if she's still obsessively defensive of Rey to this day.
Blue's better.
>>155197881Well, having sex with men makes you gay. The Greeks were gay
>>155197866sorryI get sour when I read stupid statements on the nature of mankindI figure people should know better by nowwe have the internetyou are on 4chan
Why are they so scared to do a Silmarillion video?
>>155197949the whole point is that they're projecting modern views of homosexuality onto Achilles but then refusing to apply our modern concepts of morality and ethics onto him as well, since Achilles had done alot of things that would be considered reprehensible by our modern standards (owning female sex slaves, killing a defenseless trojan boy etc...)And I really REALLY don't want to get into the greeks were gay thing, so I'll just say this:We only have confirmation that a few greek city states (out of the hundreds of them that existed) engaged in specific forms of homosexuality (most notably pederasty, which isn't something the modern lgbt movement would want to publically associate themselves is it?). However, to make the extrapolation that the entirety of what we'd consider "Ancient Greece" to be "gay", and that the average greek back then would have been totally fine with it in all forms is completely retarded. You wouldn't claim that the U.S is a gay friendly paradise just because San Francisco exists would you?
>>155197520She's a nice pitslut
>>155198090>You wouldn't claim that the U.S is a gay friendly paradise just because San Francisco exists would you?I would call the US a gay friendly paradise because it is legal, rarely stigmatized and, in some contexts, openly celebrated. Just like in Ancient Greece. Although Greece was actually more gay friendly because with them, it was much more institutional via the pederasty system like you said
>>155197520Bad writing is now about not grasping basic morality.
>>155198193settle done Billy
>>155198362>settle donedown*
>>155198223Ancient Greece had laws against homosexual acts that makes the anti-gay laws we had in the past few decades seem tame in comparison.Being 'Kinaidos' was a crime in Athens, the Athenians had more laws against the act and punishments involving it up to and including persona non grata REGARDLESS of stature than any other city state in the ancient world to the point if you were kinaidos and outside during a religious event/ceremony/holiday you could be killed with impunity. if you were convicted of being gay in Athens at its peak colonial power, you could be stripped of land, inheritance, rank, right to be in public a good deal of the year, denied advancement and the right to command men in war and there was even recorded cases of men losing their children for fear of what they might do to them.Places like Pergamon and Thebes were consistently mocked and derided for their pro gay stances, One of the reasons we know so much about Sparta losing to Thebes is because Athens loved their rival being beaten by a bunch of gays who were 'lesser men' and went out of their way to document it because of it. Sparta used to kill pedophiles as well for the religious reason that sexual relations with their charge was considered betrayal to their gods and their oath to mentor the younger male.Once again, you cannot frame homosexuality as something that was completely ubiquitous in ancient greece, so the "lol the greeks were gay" claim/punchline doesn't make any sense considering all the documented hostility towards it which contradicts the idea. Whether or not there's a documented confirmation of a guy sticking his dick in another guy's asshole in the entire span of ancient greece's history is not the point and never was.
>>155198090>the whole point is that they're projecting modern views of homosexuality onto Achilles but then refusing to apply our modern concepts of morality and ethics onto him as wellI'm guessing in the video she's guided by her female hormones saying "Wouldn't it be great if two men kissed and licked each other's cock?" and isn't actually discussing Achilles the person but Achilles the character she invented when she started the video.I remember a recent history documentary (was actually a tourism show, presenters like free holidays to sunny places), some Anglosphere presenter went to Sicily and joined an archaeological dig on a classical culture which the dig was proving performed human sacrifices on babies. For some reason he tried to say it's not very clear, and that only later Romans vilified the culture, openly saying as much to an archaeologist who turned around and said "No", with him folding immediately and meekly agreeing, and for some reason they didn't redo the take with him saying the considered to be factual line, like he didn't want the archaeologists to be right but also had so little charisma he couldn't force his view through by cunningly not keeping the footage with the historians. It was fucking weird. Maybe the camera crew and editor didn't like him being a baby sacrifice apologist so refused to play ball.>which isn't something the modern lgbt movement would want to publically associate themselves is it?Too many of the modern ones hear "Cretins were gay..." and go "You go qweeen! Yaaaaaas" and don't stick around for the "... because they fucked children and everyone from the mainland Greeks to the Romans were appalled by this"
>>155198395the thing about ancient greece is, depending on the time, place, and what god you worshipped, they had EVERY unhealthy sexual extreme. Full male domination, full female domination. orgies like crazy, total celibacy... and we need to start seeing all of those for the equally bad problems they are.
>>155198395>One of the reasons we know so much about Sparta losing to Thebes is because Athens loved their rival being beaten by a bunch of gaysThe Spartans practiced pederasty. You are completely talking out your ass here.
>>155197520fat girl who depicts her cartoonsona as slightly thicker because she's a cartoon / 10
>>155198395knowing this really flipped the tables on man/boy love being the norm
>>155198607Spartans are not a monolith midwit. Only professional victims see others as monoliths as well.
>>155198607All the primary sources we have about Sparta came from non-spartan writers so all the info we have about them must be treated with some degree of skepticism since there's alot of room for bias. But Xenophon had the closest firsthand experience to Sparta and he says that the relationships between men and boys weren't sexual in nature and treated that as ideal.
Can someone please update OSP on Pawchive? I want to listen to their Patreon-only podcasts where they actually talk about the stuff they watch instead of just skimming TVTropes.Of course they still have pretty dumb takes, like how they think the Italian dub of FMAB is good.
>>155197520I hate how all this essayist and commentators try to sound as unbiased and empirical as possible until the subject of [current political thing] comes in and suddenly X it's the obvious good thing and Y it's the obvious bad thing.
>>155198721I like to think they're all jealous of me.
Not possible: my cartoon only exists on Sundays by popular logic!
>>155197520just another pretentious female youtuber constantly getting praised because modern guys like the idea of being talked down to by women and turn it into some fetish shit instead of being able to call out an annoying person as annoying>>155197541
>>155199337It's the only reason I even buy cheddar guppies, crispy crunchies and sugar dogs. Sunday is cartoons day.
>>155197520Does anyone reads her wedcomic? I like even with all the gay stuff.
>>155199537Sage isn't a dislike
>>155197587Really anything this channel does sucks. Their history videos are really bad according to reddit .
>>155198713i miss when the gay part of that was the part people had a problem with
Look, she's cute, has a nice voice, and is curvy. How could I not? In all seriousness. She's mostly just background noise while I work anyway. Wish she would redo her Dracula book though . She ended up doing nearly a full hour on the Count of Monte Cristo and I would've loved to have seen that for Dracula.Gonna draw her after class.
>>155199537This isn't Twitter champ
>>155199892you're why shit keeps getting worse
>>155199947I don't care.I just don't care
>>155197520Every day I wake up and thank God that I rarely actually perceive tropes while I'm reading or writing
>>155199892>My mind is so empty I NEED to listen to some dumb bitch talk nonsense just to fill silence Goy
>>155200439I want to kill myself slightly less when I'm listening to a Youtube video. I just can't find any good ones.
>>155197571>>155197587This
>>155197520I can almost never take animation review YouTubers seriously. A lot of them engage with art so dishonestly. Remember when she said that King Kong was racist because he represented black people?
>>155200439>>My mind is so emptyshut up coomer
>>155197881>they would have had female sex slaves They weren't real. Also they're gay in the text. You can't substitute the text with your headcanon just because it upsets you. Thats tranny logic
>>155199528I'm just tired of wallowing, might as well get something out of it. Even if that something is somewhat chubby, constantly shaved tomboy pits.
>>155200831Being homosexual is even more tranny. A true Aryan rewrites history and murders anyone who disagrees with me.
>>155200891Tomboyfags truly have the worst standards. You people always support the worst shit.
>>155200956I don't watch her at all kek, maybe the occasional secondhand meme to remember what she sounds like but that's about it.
I have nothing to live for.
>>155200831You both seem unfamiliar with the Illiad. Achilles refusal to participate in battle is over Agememnon taking one of his female war prizes. His homosexual relationship with Patroclus isn't really in the text and is much closer to headcannon.
For all the effort she does with her analysis, she rarely actually digs from anything but children’s cartoons or anime from when she grew up. With all the talk she makes about ATLA, is it a surprise that her comic is just Avatar with extra steps. Her art isn’t even that good when she actually puts the time into it. I’d much rather have McCloud give his thoughts on tropes, since I know Buddy has at least read more than the base requires for an English degree.Still Red need to get married while she has the chance. The fact she let blue get away is a crime.
>>155202009Fat people are doomed to die alone.
>>155199580I like it and the dialogue is peak but you see the woke gradually creeping in like a chronic illness. Current arc is painting paladins trying to seal satan as antagonists, which I guess that's par for the course nowadaysit's not enough to seriously effect the quality yet but I can tell It's gonna be rough by the ending
>>155197665She was my first introduction to myth(I now know better) also I liked the idea of an older woman talking down to me about something a care about
>>155200429Even the old definition of the term? I can understand not liking the compartilization of media like that with stuff like enemies-to-lovers, lie revealed, big bad but what about the original meaning of the word with stuff like alliteration, metaphor, hyperbole, simile, idioms...etc do you not use any of those figures of speech in your writing?
>>155202009This is my one critique of her analysis stuff. Its not that the analysis is bad exactly, but she returns to the same pieces of media for examples way too often, giving the sense that she hasn't watched or read enough to be acting as an authority.
You all seem like huge fans for people who aren't giving her Patreon money.
>>155203527She basically said don't donate because she doesn't have anything to make it worthwhile since she hasn't drawn much since her mom died and doesn't feel like doing crits.
i hate people who talk about their asexuality. >and the guy on the channel was like i'm asexual too but I just have sex with my wife
>>155197571Trope talk is my least fav part of OSP. I prefer legend/myths and classics series or even history series.
>>155197520>feminist retelling of your myths
>>155203581Where can I find good cartoon opinions? I can't trust this place.
>>155202009>>155203515Honestly it feels like fear. Her audience is primarily kids or manchildren, so she has no choice but to talk about Greek myths or bullshit for children. No analysis of something made for her actual age group.
>>155203620Asexuals are just fucking liars really. I knew a girl who said that but she obviously only wanted to dissuade people from hitting on her
>>155204139>she obviously only wanted to dissuade people from hitting on herYeah, because she was asexual you dumb fuck
>>155197520I used to like her until I realized she barely watches or reads anything. I remember her Sins of the Father video some years ago where the only examples she gave were SU and ATLA. I'd been noticing her lack of examples before but that video really solidifed it for me. Most of the time she's not talking about any actual instances of the trope but her headcanons about what the trope is supposed to be. There can't possibly be a lot of value in listening to an uninformed person like this.
>>155204276absolutely vile and soulless post. probably the most disgust i felt towards a poster from non-political reasons
when is she going to finish Journey to the West?
>>155203620me tooit's not an interesting fact
When is she gonna post nudes?
>youtuber talks about literary techniques and tropes>all of their reference material is childrens cartoonsis there anything more embarrassing?
>>155204628Me. I am more embarrassing.
>>155203972Why are you asking this place then? You silly billy.
>>155198016Too based and Christpilled.I know they made a video about Augustine but uh
>>155204484I'm not sure what got you so assblasted over my post but ok. I'm not advocating for consoomerism if that's what got your panties in a twist but if you're gonna be talking about tropes then you better talk about actual observable instances instead of useless vague essays about your uninformed idea of a trope.
>>155197748>presentismHoly fuck that's a powerful word I've never heard until today. Thank you anon
>>155204797You are welcome.
>>155199892>she's curvyGenuine question: is she just fat irl?
>>155204691Nowhere else I can trust to have good taste.
>>155204746>headcanon of what a trope is>uninformed (on tropes)>>I want 20 straight minutes of textbook examples of this trope>>>instead of a 20 minute vague video essay>>>>with tangents, offshoots, and general human commentaryThought you didn't have a soul but now assuming you're just autistic and this is your special interest. Literally just listen to AI at that point, or TVtropes on text-to-speech
>>155204861last irl video we had of her was 3 years ago during the eclipse video, I think.
>>155204861A little chunky
>>155205044I want an analysis. You know, that thing where you take a phenomenon and examine it. Any good analysis requires specific examples. Otherwise, what is she "commenting" on outside of her own brand of cultural osmosis?
>>155205409Still smash.
>>155198090>>155198223California banned fag marriage when they elected Obama. It took the courts to legalize it and the people didn't have a say.
>>155197520I was surprised to find that she looks pretty much exactly like her online avatar.
>>155197571>I already use TVTropes,That site is corpo-cucked. Get out while you can.
>>155206534So is 4chan.
>>155203473The problem with the way TV Tropes uses "trope" is that to them, it's a recurring pattern that appears in media. Nevermind there are words like archetype, motif, or theme. Also, they way they use tropes is hyper specific. An example of one Trans Audience Interpretation which is spin off trope of Alternate Character interpretation. It's getting to the of "why"?
>>155207539TV Tropes is just a way for idiots to add what they're a fan of to another list. Just look at how many SUBVERSION entries there are when something doesn't use a trope.
>>155198395And behind all that was a systematic population collapse. Because the government made promises - to men - that it couldn't fulfill. It only took a generation and a half to realize, even if they got something (after stripping it from someone else) it would never be enough. Too little too late.It's like discord moderators that wanna be social activist by abusing their privileges to create "consequences" for anyone that doesn't follow their rules of engagement. Next thing you know, they're a bitter redditor with 0 friends, whoring themselves to the youtube algorithm with an anime girl profile.
>>155197520All I can think of whenever I watch these two is that she seriously and sincerely argued that King Kong was actually about the fear of agressive black bucks stealing blonde women
There's still no Pawchive updates. Darn it, I just wanna listen to her podcasts.
>>155197520I wanna cuddle her so so fuckin bad bros.
>>155209788If Gojira 1954 is actually about the atom bomb and radiation poisoning, I could buy that for KongDifference is with Godzilla it was deliberate as in the bomb woke him hum and mutated him
>>1551979491. There's no textual evidence that either Achilles or Patroclus ever had sex with other men.2. Being attracted to other men doesn't necessarily make one gay. Them being bi or pan is a potentially defensible position, them being gay is not.
>>155210433>I could buy that for KongAnd you would be an idiot to do so. Kong spells out its morals pretty bluntly.
>>155204518It's a long story and she's working on it.I'm hoping that she decides the Mahabarata is the next long project to do in the style.
>>155205409She's put on weight since the first time they appeared on camera. Back then the worst thing was her flabby underarms.
>>155210433The cunt implied the silly american Godzilla movies were disrespectful of Japan when they themselves made silly Gojira movies.
>actual posts defending this womanoh comblr...
>>155210491>King Kong.>Down right masterpiece with it's simplicity and technical work.>Pretty straightforward adventure story.>Pretty straightforward moral.>Pretty straightforward what the movie is about,>ACTUALLY, about the fear of aggressive blacks...
>>155210798I don't even get how you reach that conclusion. It's like when people were saying Tolkien's orcs were meant to be blacks. You can only reach that conclusion if you're seeing your own bullshit.
>>155200831The illiad literally states that Achilles and Patroclus slept in two different beds with their respective female sex slaves
>>155210859Well duh sleeping in the same bed wasn't popularized until the Flinstones.
>>155197520Anyone have her nudes?
>>155209788The only way you can conclude that is if you don't understand the early years of western study of gorillas.Not only did westerners largely believe they weren't real for a long time, but local tribes specifically had legends about them kidnapping women and children in the night, which contributed to westerners just believing they were generic boogieman folklore.When they actually got confirmed as being real, a lot of these stories would get taken more seriously, and Gorillas were considered violent, aggressive, potential man-eaters all the way until the 50s.If anything King Kong is about how there might be more to these creatures than we think.
>>155210576>MahabarataWell, that's the longest of all epic poems. It spans at least three generations and it's not a short read even if you take out the Song of God. I think that's going to take a while if she does try tackling it.
>>155197520>analyzes you favorite cartoon in a shitty, irrelevant manner
>>155209537The only value I got from that wiki was that it's useful for finding obscure or almost forgotten media but it's worthless for critiquing media.
>>155211360It shouldn't be about criticizing media in the first place. When Campbell wrote his book it was more about human psychology and observing our nature than it was about listing stupid plot points.
>>155197520She's got a lot of... Red flags.
>>155205409Yes that is fat. You fucking parasocial dumbasses.
>>155211562Please bully my penis ginger mommy
Nice opinion.I'll toss it in the garbage with the rest.
>>155197520I actually really like her Journey to the West series.
>>1551976659/10 times it's horniness, yes.
>>155203473I mean the new definition of the term. Frankly I'm so used to hearing the new definition I forgot there WAS an older interpretation
she cute
>>155212979This board is so fucking stupid and emasculated to be peddling this shit just like the rest of the internet.
A woman being a woman just doesn't endeer them to me
>>155203761This. I don't watch those and get annoyed every time they uploade a new one. Basically every other series on that channel is good. I guess tropetalk is just the easiest to churn out. That's the youtube content mill for you...
>>155213475No, livestreams of videogames are the easiest to churn out.
>>155198395>Sparta used to kill pedophiles as well for the religious reason that sexual relations with their charge was considered betrayal to their gods and their oath to mentor the younger male.That one we don't know if its accurate or not. Pretty sure its from the same guy who said the spartans had state enforced cuckolding, while others said the spartans practiced pederasty. Big issue is we have 0 spartan sources cause spartans couldnt write. Or read. Or farm. Or build anything past a mud hut. We got like four guys who write about sparta and none of them are spartan.The entire city state ends up being more of a projection than anything clear, because theyre functionally just a african tribe except two fags jerked them off possibly due to a fetish for muscular men.
>>155198395Why would Sparta kill child rapists when that's their job as a slave-owning society?
>>155213985That sounds like the same historical revisionism that claims "though slay not lie with a man like a woman" was referring to young boys rather than adult men and so the Bible isnt against gays but pedophiles.
>>155214190Aren't you a Protestant?
>>155213985I remember a Greek visiting Sparta at it's peak. He was impressed with it's military and noted it didn't have anything else like culture and philosophers.
>>155214289Not sure who you think i am im just a 3rd party adding to the conversation. Just find it amusing that they are trying to reframe problematic parts to be more aligned with modern values no matter how ill fitting and clunky it be.Remeber seeing on another thread how the Vikings were depicted in documentaries over the years reflecting that decades forget the specifics though.
New video, and it's another Venice one. https://youtube.com/watch?v=G5fkFJqu5Vs
>>155214375Because it was a autocratic society that did not need an economy when they could just bully their neighbors and take what they needed.
Is anyone here subscribed to OSP's Patreon?
>>155213985It also doesn't help that this one frenchie went around Sparta smashing up all their shithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Fourmont
>>155215405Unless I'm getting something to beat my dick too, I don't see much of a reason to sub. Do they even upload consistently?
>>155215492>get sent to collect inscriptions>literally tear down buildings to send the parts with inscriptions back. >decide it's easier to send a written copy, destroy originalfuckin' hell, this guy.
>>155197587>Teehee omg, I like totes love Hades/Persephone! Haha, dread lord Persephone, amirite! XDNowadays enough people know how retarded youtubers are that you can openly call anyone that says this garbage out for being a tard that regurgitates what hacks on youtube tell them, but this shit was fucking insufferable for the longest time. There is no faster way to find out if someone talking about Greek myths is a grifter pushing an agenda than if they start saying the Rape of Persephone is a love story or was in any way supported as legitimate by anything but the most fringe of tribals (and even that's giving them too much credit).
>>155215506Yes. They do a biweekly bonus podcast after every podcast they hold with Blue's wife on Overly Sarcastic Podcast.
>>155215648It's hilarious to me at how you had these ancient male writers looking at the myth and going "THIS...IS....RAPE!" but modern day tumblrites insist otherwise
>>155215669It must be weird working with a single girl for 10 years while having a wife. Surely they've slept together.
>>155215765Stop being an incel.
>>155203620It's used to mean "not a slut" in highly degenerate areas like California.
>>155205044Weird place for a mini-melty, what was your trigger even?
>>155216156its bait
Almost like she's being sarcastic to an excessive degree. Overly sarcastic, if you will.
>>155212979lickable
>>155213160Bro, I just want a dommy mommy to condescendingly talk to me about mythology and literature and shit while occasionally giving me a bit of side-boob or midriff to look at. It's all I desire in life. Please understand.
>>155215648>the Rape of PersephoneThe old definition of "Rape" was to carry away forcibly
>>155213475You can really tell when she just watched something and wants to make a video just to talk about that rather than the actual subject.
>>155218596Isn't that basically the point of Detail Diatribe?
>>155215765I can see every time Blue put forward even the inkling of a hint at a relationship, she starts telling everyone she's asexual. Maybe she is, maybe she doesn't want to risk losing the friendship, maybe she was being tsundere. But because Blue is a bit dense and would tell everyone that Red told him that she's asexual, she has to commit. So Blue finds his wife and Red is stuck in a hell of her own making. I'm sure she'll do a trope video on that one day soon.
>>155215765You do realize that 50 percent of the people most work with are female.
>>155197520This bitch essentially made her entire YouTube career out of reading TVTropes articles.
>>155219511That's not even remotely true, because most work places tends to be screwed in one direction, due to job preferences.Anon is still a dumbass though.
>>155217961>I just want a dommy mommy to condescendingly talk to me about mythology and literatureSo, not Red?
>>155219511Imagine seeing a woman or child and not raping them that instant.You Will Never Be An Aryan.
>>155212979so she got a little chunkystill would smash
>calling the baby "Aqua"
>>155222432>virtual dashconCan someone make a virtual ballpit?
Time again for my twice daily "Please update OSP's archive on Pawchive" beg.
>>155198376Epic fail!
>>155197520for every fault. at least shes not a vtuber
>>155225622maybe she should fix that
>>155226223I don't watch cancer.
>>155226763I do. She should do it.
>>155227115Kill yourself.
>>155197822>hyperpass
>>155198090Also "ancient greece" lasted like 1000 years depending on how you count it I'm sure some eras were more "gay" than others germany had the weimar era afterall
>>155198223You know its an interesting point because I remember anal sex was still banned in alabam in the 2010s (don't know about now) but obviously no one cared and it was still widely practiced. Makes me think of people saying middle ages didn't dump garbage in the streets because we have recorded laws but how would we know how many got away with it?
>>155211360thats because its about cataloging media? I mean the site is pretty open on its views of subjectivity of quality or its stance on impartiality (even if they let the leftist rants slide by)
>>155213985Frank miller and zack snyder? Halo came out in 2001. Spartan was a term used for intense athletic competition for who knows how long.
>>155217127That doesn't sound accurate.
>>155223437peg?
>>155219511>that anon whos never had a job and just makes assumptions
Y'all don't know it but on /aco/, she had a very creepy stalker. Found her name and location and everything.
>>155197665I like the myth or book picture stories
>>155205409That's normal weight in America. Also why was she wearing mask?
>>155214190No the state enforced cuckolding is from Xenophon>He noticed, too, that, during the time immediately succeeding marriage, it was usual elsewhere for the husband to have unlimited intercourse with his wife. The rule that he adopted was the opposite of this: for he laid it down that the husband should be ashamed to be seen entering his wife's room or leaving it. With this restriction on intercourse the desire of the one for the other must necessarily be increased, and their offspring was bound to be more vigorous than if they were surfeited with one another. In addition to this, he withdrew from men the right to take a wife whenever they chose, and insisted on their marrying in the prime of their manhood, believing that this too promoted the production of fine children. It might happen, however, that an old man had a young wife; and he observed that old men keep a very jealous watch over their young wives. To meet these cases he instituted an entirely different system by requiring the elderly husband to introduce into his house some man whose physical and moral qualities he admired, in order to beget children. On the other hand, in case a man did not want to cohabit with his wife and nevertheless desired children of whom he could be proud, he made it lawful for him to choose a woman who was the mother of a fine family and of high birth, and if he obtained her husband's consent, to make her the mother of his children.Is it accurate? We don't know, dude was a athenian who was exiled from athens and went to sparta and seethed about athens. Good luck trying to find anything useful.>>155227651Im talking about actual ancient greeks but if you want people making things up about ancient cultures to jerk off half naked muscular men I dont even know how long that list is.
>>155197520Coming back to this thread when it gets porn
Once again asking for >>155198792 to be updated.
>>155197881That wouldn't make them not gay.
>>155210486>There's no textual evidence that either Achilles or Patroclus ever had sex with other men.The Greeks themselves said they did.>Being attracted to other men doesn't necessarily make one gay.Only gay people in denial say this.
>>155198395Dude Sparta was bisexual.
>>155198395Then why are the Gods of the pantheon they used to worship all bisexual with male and female lovers?
>>155229794Worshiped and feared
>>155228078Oh dear
>>155228078dont like that
>>155229794Homosexuality is the privilege of gods.
>>155198395I don't know whether this guy's lying on his own account or parroting a liar and I don't care, but they're not even well-crafted lies. If you're considering extending anon the benefit of the doubt ask him to quote his "documented" sources. The extant Athenian accounts of the Boetian War are Thucydides and Xenophon if you care to read them.
>>155229794The Greeks had a different set of taboos. Homosexual sex between free men was supposed to be intercrural - penetration was for women, prostitutes and slaves, i.e. lessers. Topping was fine so by that logic gods can fuck anyone they want I guess.
>>155197520Is there any moment where she was wrong about something?
>>155210859It was some shit that was brought up in Inglorious Bastards and was likely thought up by Tarantino in a drug, foot, and fart induced haze of pretentiousness.
>>155215492Wow, I wish I was alive then so I could have scalped this faggot. What would possess someone to do this?
>>155215492I dunno about the Frenchman but the Spartans deliberately didn't leave much record to begin with.
>>155210859>>155233809I feel like it's probably been around as long as LotR has been popular, the question is that racists start it or did antiracists who assumed old white guy must be racist start it? Because you'd be an idiot not to see that there's obviously people who liken Orcs to blacks but it's like saying God made rats to be a dogwhistle for jews.
>>155234429It would be Asians not Blacks if someone were arguing in good faith that Tolkien was racist. Which he wasn't beyond the standard of his time. Orcs talk like Tommy Atkins, only an American would associate them with black stereotypes.
>>155234429If you are talking about modern discourse it was the former only to be made worse by the latter.Basically racists use orcs as an analog to their detested demographic meant to illustrate their fears by using a universal archetype for chaotic evil. Wokesters put the cart before the horse and assumed racists were equating orcs with blacks because having a designated evil race leads to people think there are actual evil races in real life and not simply utilizing cultural Canon for communication
>>155210798clearly kong is a modern Enkidu, the savage barbarian, self sufficent man of the wilds, terror of the fringes of civilization (shepards) who can no longer enjoy life among the beasts after enjoying the joys of civilization (Beer and hookers/ ragtime dance shows).except instead of a king who he challenges and teaches the value of others and self respect, he gets captured, turned into an attraction and killed by airplanes.>>155234429Funniest thing about Tolkien orcs, the soviets fully assumed that orcs and mordor where supposed to be about them. saying they're black people's retarded since Tolkien likely didn't know enough about them to have such an opinion.
>>155234795So you admit authors are racist.
Are you guys actually historians, tho?
>>155197949>I'm not Gay!>I have relationships with women>and sex woth men
>>155205409Max Miller look out there are two ugly bitches next to you.
>>155233763She thinks NetflixVania is a good show
>>155234429>>155234795Man you guys don't even want to see the current state of DnD.
>>155200776animation reviewers on yt in general seem to fall under some mix of politicsbrained, pretentious, and terminal autistic fixation/justice sensitivity that renders them pretty hard to watchit's weird in that while other art forms are plagued with similar issues or their own more particular cases, they have some more level headed people out there, but I've yet to find a cartoon reviewer that isn't someone that caters to the annoying pc crowd or one that's on the spectrum enough that their material is so odd and warped from their strange viewpoint or just plain hyperbolic (latter might be the worst desu, lot of hypebeasts and negative hypebeasts in cartoons, think like the fuckers proclaiming modern spongebob is so back after a meme face or fuel for gooner artists like the karen dancing thing some years ago
>>155238075It's like on the one hand, I do believe there is deeper discussion to be had regarding the medium, but on the other, there fucks are so desperate for any kind of validation of their hobby and interests that they try to force it on things that don't really deserve it. We can't have a more philosophical debate on this when they only want to hype of things they already like.
>>155213985>we have 0 spartan sources cause spartans couldnt write. Or read. Or farm. Or build anything past a mud hutWe have no Spartan sources because the Spartans were autistically paranoid and literally didn't allow their citizens to write anything about Sparta or how it functioned for fear others would use that information to attack it. We know there were plenty of esteemed Spartan poets but their work hasn't survived.
>>155235321Define authors. Because i only seen this discourse with memes and other little skits rather than full narratives. Namely Sargon of Akkad parodying the i flux of immigrants being a good thing by framing the orcs invasion of border or whatever as a similar good thing.Orc as a staple fantasy race was long established by then.
>>155238056Oh well aware. Fantasy proms tactical wheelchairs and Mexican orcs.
>>155238286The poetry doesn't survive not because of the paranoia but because nobody made enough copies, probably because it wasn't very good by wider Greek standards. Sparta was culturally impoverished.
>>155238957Sargon of Akkad is a 24th century Sumerian. If you mean some whiny modern racist I don't think he can be of Akkad, since it's been gone for thousands of years.
>>155217982>Ancient statues depict him violently dragging a young woman away, and many versions go as far as to depict her as prepubescent>The translators specifically chose to use "Rape" while translating it to a modern language (not abduction of Persephone or the theft of Persephone, the *rape* of Persephone)>A majority of the surviving myths surrounding it make it explicitly clear through either subtext or direct statements that he violated her autonomy on a fundamental level>"Noooo you guys don't get it, it's a love story! It's a heckin tvtropes enemies to friends accidental lovers romance xD"He raped her.
>>155239287Carl Benjamin. What do you get out of playing this game?
>>155233981The Spartans didn't leave many records because most ancient states didn't leave a sufficient amount of records. Cultures like Athens which invested lots of time, effort and resources to preserve their texts are the exception, not the rule.
>>155239613Sparta is an exception in the other direction.
>>155239586I have no idea who that is and an autist-tier objection to some zoomer streamer identifying themselves as "Napoleon of 19th Century France" or "Ban Ki-Moon of the UN Secretariat". The qualifier exists to distinguish between Sargons, not for piggybacking SEO.
>>155197520I can't take her seriously after I found out she pegs that faggot gaywad JoCat.
>>155197520do women really sit like that?
>>155239511>The translators specifically chose to use "Rape" while translating it to a modern languageHow is this an argument?
>>155239683Like toddlers in oversized high chairs? Depends how short they are.
>>155203408How the fuck did you not learn about Myths in school? When I was in highschool our English teacher spent an entire month just discussing Greek Myths and the Odyssey.
>>155239714I took classical studies in school, but it was an elective. The students who didn't take it presumably never read Homer. History and classics are always very spottily taught.
>>155239704no, but I leg pulled out like that looks really uncomfortable
>>155239855Women have more flexible hips than men. You see children sit the same way for the same reason.
>>155239675What? I thought she was a permavirgin
>>155210859Considering Tolkien was a Brit who fought in World War 1 and lived through World War 2, it seems more likely that the hordes of ugly, warmoning, man-eating monsters from the east where supposed to be Germans rather than black people anyway.
>>155239741I graduated high school in the south just right after the Bush Years. If my school taught Homer it's surprising others didn't have it as a part of the curriculum. What in the world would they even replace it with? It's s foundational pillar of western literarure.
>>155240274I mean if pegging is just masturbation with another person so it's not sex.
>>155197520IQ 95 autist explains basic concepts regarding themes to IQ 80 autists who think that, "No dude, MLP was way deeper than you think, bro." Why the fuck would I watch that, you basic faggot? KYS.
>>155238075Almost everyone who does cartoon reviews is either a massive snowflake like Enter, a disingenuous hack who thinks they're a real writer because they "worked in the industry" (citation needed) like Sarcastic Chorus, or both like Lilyorchard.
She made a public video about watching MAWS season 3.https://youtube.com/watch?v=otVwdruUgjgI've listened to her AASS uploads about seasons 1 and 2. I don't know how she manages to have both bad and good takes, unless her dad is doing all the heavy lifting by pointing out "Back in my day, Krypton was meant to be the golden ideal of human achievement!". Apparently she's never even fucking watched the Richard Donner movies.
Fuck it, I'm posting the takes on cartoon reviewers that I really like.
>>155240747Wait, shit, this is someone else's video. Fucking Youtube and their new reblog function.
>>155240593I understand Shakespeare is quite popular.It doesn't really matter which classics they teach, because there are too many of them to cover and the point is not actually to give students a grounding in classical literature, it's to teach critical analysis. Homer is actually not the best fit for that, arguably.
>>155239675Nice headcanon
>>155210486>Being attracted to other men doesn't necessarily make one gay.that's literally the only requirement for being homosexual. Being attracted to the same sex as your own is what makes you gay.>Them being bi or pan is a potentially defensible position, them being gay is not.see above, bi and pan people are gay. just not the homosexual flavor of gay specifically.You got some feelings you are repressing anon?
>>155240907Gay doesn't mean queer. If you tell a woman you're gay, she's not going to see you as a potential partner. You might use the word that way but nobody else will know what you mean.>>155210486Achilles and Patroclus aren't real, anon. They are mythical figures. They didn't have eros in the Iliad but they did in Classical period myth.
>>155197520I remember in a past OSP thread someone was complaining about guys wanting to fuck Red and an anon just replied>you can hate a girl and still want to motorboat her titsI wish I screenshoted that because it still makes me giggle.
>>155241143https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139795907/#139829849
>>155241161Yep, that was it. Thanks, anon.
Is there anyone with cartoon opinions I can trust?
>>155235224>Funniest thing about Tolkien orcs, the soviets fully assumed that orcs and mordor where supposed to be about themthey weren't all that wrong. The orcs' dialogue about id numbers and reporting each other to the Nazgul definitely felt like a reference to the Soviet Union or just modern authoritarian regimes in general
>>155239675>calling the straightest man alive gayfuck off faggot
Why is nobody talking to me?
>>155241700In his letters he says more or less outright that orcs are what war turns men into, and that they had plenty of them on the Allied side.
>>155241742>>155241497You can trust my cartoon opinions. My favourite is the Burlington House.
>>155241873Are you trolling?
>>155215648Her video on Hades and Persephone doesn't pretend like the abduction was voluntary or anything like that. She just points out that judging Hades by the standards of the time and the standard of the other Greek gods, he comes off as less bad.
