Haley's friends eat Mike's food edition
>>155215697Abbey is the only one who can keep Mike from dying of malnutrition
>>155215697kek I was about to post it with a similar caption, anyways this is not the same haley from eternal flame and another flame
>>155215697What an absolute turbo bitch move. That means we are clearly we are meant to empathize with Haley.
>>155215730Those Haleys were not actual Haley. This one is a continuation/worsening of an already nothing character with zero nuance.
>>155215697Holy fuck Haleyfags are in SHAMBLES. Sorry anons, Haley's character is now cemented as the petty, jealous, BITCH sister.
She's just upset that he rejected her because he wanted to save himself for Sandy
>>155215709I'm starting to feel like Abbey is the only character who's gotten better over time instead of worse
>>155215709Abbey ain't gonna give a shit lmfao. The last meaningful interaction between them was Abbey sperging out on Mike for not being a good lil lightning rod for the m'ladies who can do no wrong.
>>155215797Watch him side with Haley against Mike for extremely poor, borderline schizophrenic reasons.
>wagon circling in the patron commentsThese people can't be for real.
Oh cool, now we have TWO Lucys
>>155215697Anyone else feel like Taeshi is acting like Caine and torturing her creation out of bitter spite
I kinda like how the patrons apply this sentiment to every bcb character... except mike
>>155215843Yes.
>>155215697Mom's such a bitch, feeding her children.
>>155215836Can't make Lucy look good? Make Mike look bad
>>155215812>>155215816You better believe it, Abbey has consistently shown himself being a White Knight fag. If he learns what happened outside from Lucy, David, or even James, he's gonna take their side in a heartbeat. People need to stop kidding themselves from thinking Abbey is anything other than a neckbeard. Although if he learns that Augustus was the one who instigated shit, he just might have a fucking brain hemorrhage from the sheer inner conflict he'll experience.
>>155215858>except mikeHave you considered that the people raging on Mike might not be the people using the "dumb teenager" defence
>>155215858Dontcha know anon? The point of convergence between adulthood and infancy is 16. Haley is 15, so she's literally a child. But since Mike is 16, he gets grown up consequences.
>>155215866More them self-inserting as teenage girls and making excuses for Haley.
>>155215697Mike needs to fucking leave lmfao, literally the only person who cares about him is his mother at this point, might as well wait out the divorce and convince his mom to leave haley and his dad on this shithole town
>>155215697>My mom asked me to take some food to my brother! What a bitch!Haley being put in the same category as james is becoming more and more likely. Her mom isn't even a bitch. She's clearly having a harder time than it looks with everything going on and needed Haley's help on this.>>155215858The problem with this is that this is basically the ONLY emotion we see Haley with 99% of the time and the task asked of her wasn't even that big a deal. Haley basically dislikes her brother, and now presumedly her mother, way too much to fit the bill. It'd be one thing if she gave mike the food and THEN complained about having to do it to her friends. But not giving it to him at all is just dumb. As an anon said in the last thread, Haley is absolutely fucked if this just happens to be the day Mike passes out due to a health issue and her mom finds out she didn't give him the lunch like she asked.
Abbey insisting on giving Mike his lunch on the next page, Haley pouts and calls him a narc, Jasmine hops up to go with him, and whatshername fourth girl feels jealous and pouts too because she has a crush on Abbey apparentlyAbbey continuing to be the sole good character in this whole fucking comic somehow. Abbeybros, we just cant stop winning
>>155215894Haley? All I see is another iteration of Lucy
>>155215903I think Chris cares about him. The track team and Abbey also seem to like the guy. And while Paulo is a perpetual disappointment in the area of execution, he does at least give a fuck about Mike's wellbeing.
>>155215917That would be nice, which is why I know you're a wretched lying liar.
>>155215923Chris can go with them, the track team are non-characters and and as long as James is there it's a no go, and Paulo is a worthless leach that couldn't stand up for him given the chance, losing Abbey is the only negative here
>>155215697With everything else that has happened to Mike, I don't think he'll notice that he's starving. And a note from his mother showing she cares and worries about him? He doesn't need that either.
>>155215949I think selective, narratively convenient blindness is Taeshi's greatest contribution to the craft of writing.
>>155215843I think it's plot railroading. Mike's family has to notice by now that he isn't OK, but it's too soon in the story for Mike to get real help. So what do you do? You triangulate with Haley. Haley doesn't deliver the lunch, while her mom thinks she does. Both conditions are fulfilled and the plot can go on the way Taeshi wants.
>>155215917Oh you poor unfortunate fucker, involving Abbey, who Taeshi DESPISES and constantly uses as a demonstration of a character she doesn't like, only means she's going to sidetrack the whole thing by turning Abbey into a bad actor, and what better than finding out about fan favorite™ ship Paisy?
>>155215917The Eye of BPD can only ruin what it gazes upon. Abbey cannot survive for long.
Yeah I would end it all too Mike. Cause damn the only person who loves you is your mom? Yeah that be my 13th reason.
>>155215965If she doesnt like Abbey thats a good thing
>>155215894“She’s a teenager” bruh my sisters would make sure I’m okay if I wasn’t eating enough the fuck is this loli looking fat BPD retard on????
>>155215874It could be, but the way the post is worded really wants to justify her (along with a few other comments from others) so there's a high chance it's coming from someone who's not the biggest mike fan
>>155215986All that would be left is if Ellen suffers a collapsed lung from stress and dies in the hospital.
>>155215986Sometimes all that's needed is a mother's love to turn things around. Of course Mike is even denied that thanks to his sister.
>>155215697So anons. Do y'all think the lunch and note from Ellen would've made any difference whatsoever? Or do you believe Mike is fully committed and will not change his mind for anything.
>>155215697This chapter is designed specifically to enrage anyone who liked Haley by turning her into a stupid petty cunt. Even a cunt would just give Mike his lunch and then complain about it after. What if your mom asks Mike if you gave him his lunch and he says no?These stupid teenagers piss me off.
>>155215986>13 reasons why>Mike kills himself >But the whole shebang is Lucy angry at others for not helping her like she's the one who died
>>155216112People are claiming the letter was the tipping point. If Haley hadn't read it, she mightve fulfilled her task grumbling instead
>>155216096It would be a reminder, maybe it would not amount to much but anything is worth grasping when you're falling. But if he's to find the note crumpled in the trash? Boy that's a bullet being loaded, confirming even at home he's a burden
I bet if Thanos made Mike lunch and wrote him a note asking how he's doing, the Black Order would've taken it to him.
>>155216096I think it might have not meant much at first but then become more significant the worse Mike got. That, if anything, he still had his mom that loved and cared for him. But he wont know that now thanks to Haley. So any bad thoughts about him being a burden at home wont have any mental counter.
>>155215945>the track team are non-characters and and as long as James is there it's a no gohow good is james even? they should have dropped his ass
>>155216192he's probably decent, but with how flighty he is, there's no way he didn't fuck up something majorly for them at some point.
>>155215709Taking a guess on how this chapter is gonna go...>Abbey tells Haley not to call her mom a bitch because at least she has a mom>Then asks why not just Mike his lunch like asked>Haley throws a bitch fit over 1-2 pages about all she gets stuck doing including babysitting Chris all the time>Abbey nonchalantly says he does the same kind of housework and watches Molly a lot to>But it's not a big deal because they're siblings and that's what you do for family, right?>Abbey then suggests Haley should talk to her mom if she feels under appreciated>Offers to share some resources and books he has on the topic>Haley says nothing but is clearly annoyed and just silently seethes>No one at the table cares to take Mike his lunch or check on him>Scene jumps to the table where Lucy is because it's been 5 minutes with no mention of her>She seems totally fine with being the center of attention again>She's still shitting on everyone, and they're taking it with stride because "haha that's our Lucy!">Augustus comes up to the table making Daisy flustered and Paulo pissed>He says he needs to talk to Lucy because she can't keep dodging him and left for school before he did>Lucy says he can say whatever he needs to in front of everyone>Augustus confronts her about going outside and wants her to confess about whatever she said or did with Mike>Lucy drops a "so what" and goes on a rant about how she's allowed to do and go wherever she wants>Has a mini melty over how she's tired of being babied>And if it's such a big deal that she stays away from Mike then how dare Augustus not be there to stop her>Flips everything to be his fault>Including the random guy who hit on her in the middle of the cafeteria>Everyone else at the table sides with her despite not knowing what the fuck is going on and asks no questions
>>155216158As some anons have said before obligation towards his family and their feelings might be the thing that kept him on an otherwise adverse situation like going to school at all, so tangible evidence might, if not help him reverse the damage, at least remind him he can't just give up. Withholding that from him is not going to push him down a cliff but won't help slow him down either
>>155216192Well even if they kick out both David and James the vibes are now rotten, and they won't get self defeating Mike to accept because considering they had a faster runner in David they're just taking pity on him
What the fuck is wrong with these people? What kind of comic did they read?
>>155216231Aug despair arc...
>>155216096I think it's less the note and food itself, but the "make sure he eats it" part, finding a way to bypass the ONE responsible adult we have seen in the comic by lying to her about Mike's situation pushes Taeshi's beloved status quo, having Haley confront Mike for not eating would force Mike to consider wasting away isn't only affecting him, and a simple observation would have his mom pull him from school and into whatever help he needs even against his will
>>155216329>If you're pulling hatred from these interactions then you're wrong.What else is there to pull from them?! If there wasn't any hatred then she would have just done it! This isn't a tall task! Just give it to him, say "here, mom sent this" and move on!
>>155216329The person in the wrong is the first one, for entering a cult building and hoping to have a coherent discussion
Remember that one time Haley showed actual concern for her brother when he broke down after his talk with Sandy? No? Me neither, that never happened. I'm not Taeshi btw
>>155215697What a cunt!
>>155216390I like the part where they ask you to IMPLY what they meant by asking Haley to do it, but not to IMPLY anything from Haley
>>155216329>"If he has an ED he wouldn't eat anyways.">I won't be getting my suicidal sister a birthday gift this year cause she's probably just gonna kill herself anyways.
>>155216149>>155216158>>155216260I think the note might have helped and do agree his family should be the big narrative reason why Mike hasn't offed himself. Haley making him out to be some big burden would probably do a whole lot more damage as a result.
>>155216231You didn't include the part where Abbey's attempts to help Haley are dismissed with some epic cool asshole snark that leaves him flustered and embarrassed but also charmed.
>>155216436Oh wait rereading his comment that was probably sarcasm... I think. You know what I don't even know anymore.
>>155216329>If you're pulling "hatred" from these interactions then I fear you are wrongShe calls her own mother a bitch??
>>155216390>>155216532The only way people can justify acting like this is reading some form of imaginary nobility into the act of defiance. Which is why Lucy is depicted as a perpetual victim despite everything she does.
>>155216134Not so sure, you're shown that Mike's mom made him lunch and that it's not a common occurrence, but also that Haley does her own, so while the note is what broke the camel's back the special treatment could have been enough for the "if he's so hungry he can buy his own lunch" part
>>155216532You cannot ask them to read a character in a vacuum, Haley thinks Mike=Bad therefore Haley=Good, that's all they need to direct their analysis. It's like how they were so fucking mad about Tiff despite her making it clear constantly she didn't want a date with Jordan, because you're told Jordan is good
>>155216134If I had withheld lunch from my sister after my mom told me something was wrong with her, I'd feel like a complete jackass and would definitely not lord it as some kind of personal victory.
Pink chapter like meat or a heart or something
>>155216635I think some people forget that when the thread calls the patreon a cult, they aren't exaggerating
>>155216639You don't have BPD anon
>>155216670Who's this new cutie
>>155216670It's sandy!
>>155216670Oh boy a kid pageant, time for endless misery
>>155216705That's the fox girl that Mary punched in an earlier chapter I think
Ah, okay, I know how this will go.>golden boy and golden child language keeps coming upPaulo and Haley getting jealous of Mike and lashing out in their own ways are not character defects. They are natural reactions to Mike creating unreasonable standards by trying too hard and thus making them look/feel bad.
>struggling financially>visited my mom yesterday>she not only took me grocery shopping and paid for it, but an additional $40 to "buy yourself something nice">gave her a big hug and nearly teared up>see this comic todayNow I'm fucking pissed. How bad is this going to get?
if the main four were dogs, what breed would they be?
>>155215697I'm going to be honest I've never once in my life called my mom a bitch. Even when she called me a bitch.
>>155217125Sounds like a you problem
>>155217184It was an accident (I forgot she'd injured her arm and poked her there to get her attention)
>>155216329>Literally every fucking interaction we have seen on Haley's sidecept EF has been contempt-malding for some reason.It's giving lunch and a note to your brother; it ain't carrying his fucking sins. Is this all single-child bullshit or retardation?
Another boring page
>>155216134But wouldn't that just be more evidence that you've done something wrong? If Mike's mom asks if he liked the note or if it cheered him up, guess who gets found out?I just really hope Jasmine with her good raising calls Haley out on being so rude>>155216787wait why Paulo? Just because he got weird after realizing he has a sister? Realisitically wouldn't he want to get closer to mike to understand his new parasocial role? Oh wait yeah right BCB>>155217228The only time my mom got crazy was when she literally had a stroke, which is something Taeshi is probably planning for a character's parents to be more drama.
>>155217409Paulo has said put loud how he hates how everyone prefers Mike over him (specially Lucy) and how he tends to outshine him on stuff like sports and academics, his excuse for spying on him and James was that he had to take Mike down a notch (after Mike was worried about him crying because Lucy bitch slapped him and apologized for being a sperg goblin to him and the rest of the table)
>>155217409Mike's Mom having something terrible happen to her and having a roundabout way of blaming Mike for it seems exactly the way this going
>>155217409>strokeDamn that shit is scary, hope she's ok now.
>>155216329It's amazing how much people are pulling mental gymnaastics to justify Haley not doing a simple task. Everyone is pulling hatred from these interactions because Haley does nothing but mald whenever she's in the same room with her brother.Taeshi even hated the idea of her and Mike having some sibling bonding moments a while back.
>>155217523>Paulo has said put loud how he hates how everyone prefers Mike over him (specially Lucy) and how he tends to outshine him on stuff like sports and academics,But Paulo never took either of those things seriously. At least Mike and Lucy were actually athletic with each other; what about Paulo?
NEXT TIME ON BITTERSWEET CANDY BOWL Z!
>>155217409>wait why Paulo?In reference to his jealous grumbling back when Mike tried out for the track team.
>>155217683It was convenient for the plot I guess
>>155217683Woah woah woah woah....Having to work for social recognition, praise, and general benefits? In BCB? No my friend, remember that you're supposed to mope around and/or bitch until things magically change on their own.
>>155216329What does Mike's eating have to do with erectile dysfunction?
>>155217825If you put effort in your social life it means you WANT ATTENTION and thus are a MANIPULATOR. The honest way of life is to be hostile to your friends and loved ones so they know there's nothing to hide. Never fuck your girlfriend either, wanting intimacy from men turns you into a WOMAN BETRAYER
>>155217674You see haley has to babysit chris and uhh that the only thing she does ever so somehow being eternally mad at mike for it is justified and also talking with your parents is somehow not an option because your bitch mom likes your brother more than you except don't expect it to be shown this because fuck you
>>155215859Ah i had totaly forgotten about Paranatural, is it still going?
Like most BCB characters, Haley just needs to get laid
>>155218048>What does ED mean to you?This is the true test to see whether or not people online are men or women
>>155218928>This is the true test to see whether or not people online are men or womenWouldn't one assume ED is an eating disorder since we have never seen Mike aroused?
>>155215797He's not, but he follows the pattern of characters who get better basically disappearing from the comic. He got better, left the assholes who kept messing with him behind, and suddenly he's barely relevant. The ur-example is Tess, who's journey of self-improvement had her literally leave the comic behind. But even Paulo's gotten less relevant since he got better. We've gone from Pauloshow every chapter when Paulo was a retarded bully, to Pauloshow every three chapters now that he's merely a dumb jackass.
>>155218993You’d be surprised. Most men I’ve come across immediately jump to erectile dysfunction when the term is used, even if the subject is completely irrelevant to the conversation.
>>155218993>we have never seen Mike aroused?That makes it more likely that he has erectile disfunction.
>>155218993>since we have never seen Mike arousedRemember when Haley walked in on Sandy trying to pity fuck Mike?
>>155218993I read it as eating disorder for the same reason, Mike's not been eating which is new, but Mike's practically asexual.Like him pushing Sandy off when they were kissing before >>155219215
>>155219215Mike looks exceptionally naked without the scarf.
>>155219215Pity fuck or trying to feel like less of a whore? Can't wait for the contradictory blog posts about that.
>>155215697Mm shame
>>155216128Mike's 13 reasons why:>Lucy's physical abuse>Lucy's emotional abuse>No one being supportive of him or his choices>David's repeated attempts on his life>Lucy inexplicably being more popular with his friends than he is>Everyone blaming him for Lucy's suicide (since they apparently found out the day after it happened)>Paulo shitbaggery>Lucy's return>The return of Lucy's constant bullying (now 50% subtler)>Sandy ghosting/cheating>James snakery>Augustus/Lucy/David/James tag-team gaslighting spectacular>At least Mike's mother fucking loves him
>>155217069>DaisyPoodle or pom, something fluffy>PauloChihuahua, something that tries to be tough but is puntable>LucyPitbull, because she can be as violent as she fucking wants but the plot always caters to her whims like irl>MikeNot even a dog. A toddler. Because people massively prefer dogs over children and blame them for everything even when mauled by the pitbullOr if he must be a dog, another chihuahua, since whenever a pit gets blamed for shit you always have people go "b-but whatabout Chihuahuas"
>>155215697Alright, I still feel bad for Haley for the whole "resents being responsible for her brothers" angle, but she's pushing it.
>>155219767>mikefags see literally every post as an opportunity to whine about mike being a victim
>>155219841>did you know that Lucy is a nanny cat
>>155219767Is there a particular breed of dog that smells like body odor? I feel like that would fit Lucy the most for whatever reason.
>>155215697At least his mom fucking loves him
>>155220023AND HE'LL NEVER KNOW MWAHAHAHAHA
>>155219215>mike smilingQue?
>>155220004Despite being afraid of water, Lucy permanently smells of wet dog
>>155220120Or an unflushed toilet.
>>155219829i've already told you the truth about Sue, silly anon
>>155219829>Sandy being that far rightBased
>>155220371Cry about it.
>>155220605bit of a controversial chapter
>>155220605A shame her cult followers are drinking the definitely-not-selective empathy swill so deeply.
>>155220605>I want you to feel bad for Mike AND Haley.Okay, I can do that.>AND Lucy.No deal.
>>155220385Sandy IS based. And judging from the candybooru, more and more people are realizing it.
>>155220605>We can't just assume thisThat's fair yeah>But we can assume this other thing!Nope, you were close. Haley "being constantly forced to look after Chris and she resenting it" is pure headcanon at the moment You know, it's funny they mention "Mike defenders" being a thing when Taeshi only gives them a platform to make fun of them, so unless they're lurking here or the discord they're making up people to get mad at
>>155220605>MikeCheck>HaleyCheck>LucyNot happeningIt seems like this good victim/bad victim thing is boiling down to "people don't like people who are causing others pain on purpose," which, like, duh? Everyone who hates Mike hates him for December, everyone who hates Lucy hates her for *gestures wildly,* everyone who hates Haley hates her for giving away an anorexic guy's lunch. These are all pretty reasonable things to get mad over. I'm a Haley defender but even I was pretty shocked by today's page. It's quite mean!
Haley needs correction if you know what I mean
>>155220605Someone needs to post these blogs on r/bcb. I need to see people going crazy
>>155220605>But Haley feels this!Ok, can I see the page?>The mom puts all the responsability on her!Can I have the chapter's name?>The mom ONLY pays attention to the golden boySo we're just making stuff up, he's called golden boy once and the author makes a joke and now people are making up narratives. This is what years of making excuses for Lucy teach you, to take any scrap of comic and try to squeeze an argument out of itLike even just saying "oh it's because Mike's mom has the old values that boys aren't good at taking care of babies, that's more of a girls work" would make more sense than "it's because she puts Mike on a pedestal"
>>155220704lolol, I think it's funny how people sympathizing with mike are also sympathizing with haley, but people sympathizing with haley are pissy and throwing bad faith arguments
>>155220605>Their mom has dumped unreasonable responsibilities on Haley!What fucking unreasonable responsibilities? Babysitting?>Taeshi's response.What exactly has Mike DONE to make Haley mad? Is it the same evil manipulation he did to James by trying to hang out with him?ALEJANDRO! THE LUCY'S ARE MULTIPLYING! DON'T LEAVE US WITH THEM!!
>>155220704>>155221095It doesn't shock me to see that much projection in these comments.
>>155221095>One comment on a tumblr ask means the last four threads of you faggots spewing rape threats and misogynistic rants around don't countMikefags keep proving they're the most spiritually jewish fandom on the internet.
>>155221193nice try, but I'm not a mikefag and I have defended lucy before, I don't count these threads because I doubt those people are hanging out on le evil 4chan
>>155220948No, anon, you may NOT have any elaboration or development for characters other than Paulo, Mike, or Lucy. For any other character you must simply extrapolate from the crumbs of information within interactions with those three.Please understand, there's no time to expand upon side characters. We need six pages to establish that Mike is still sad, then another six pages to establish that Lucy is doing fine on her own but also miserable but also doesn't fucking want it, then six pages for live Paulo reaction, then we need to spend six pages setting things up that won't happen.
Why are all anti-Mikefags so stupid and pissy? I've yet to see one with any degree of class.
>>155221193Shut up kike.
>>155221095>russian
>>155221095>People blaming Lucy for the Augustus Mike fight One, it wasn't a fight, he was being hounded, two if you count Mike's pansy shove there were only two hits which she made the most decisive of, and three the result was her desicion, she was literally asked
>>155221257He lost a few too many arguments and has made it his mission to ragebait people here in revenge.
>>155221283Fuck, and here I thought regular /bcb/ posters like myself had no life.
>>155221245>I'm not counting the place where the majority of Mikefags post their opinionsoy vey
>>155220937Alright, the post is up—now it's just a matter of waiting.
>>155221347just saying, most of them are too pussy to visit mikefag central and you know it, you can tell by the mild criticism towards haley in the patreon comments was enough to make them ass mad
>>155221265russian guy is actually agreeing with the user they are responding to
>>155221257NTA, but I like to think my occasional antiMike posts have been reasonably classy. I've never accused him of being wrong, only of having a tendency to lapse into being a hostile sperg. It's true that Mike's friends/girlfriend/sister aren't supportive of him or his decisions, and Lucy did abuse him, but that doesn't exclude Mike being a bad friend/boyfriend/brother in his own turn.
>>155221622They could be stating opinions of the comic and it's characters that exactly align with my own, they're still spiritually subhuman scum.
>>155221655You misunderstand: I am talking about anons who do not so much complain as whine and bitch about the existence of people who sympathize with Mike. I get criticizing Mike, I do it too. But it's some people just cannot stand the idea scarf cat gets any degree of sympathy at all.
I’m the guy who left that first patreon comment, it was in response to someone saying it didn’t matter that Haley didn’t give Mike the lunch, because ‘he has an ED and wouldn’t eat it anyway’. It’s not even worth the effort commenting there, you just get a load of retarded responses from people who’ve clearly made their own headcanons and ignore the actual content of the comic
>>155220605Mike has done nothing on page to gain the anger Haley has for him. She keeps giving characters like Lucy and Haley unreasonable causes to be mad at Mike for and then scratches her head when that shit logically does not land like she wants. The entire problem is that, aside from her anger being misplaced in the first place, she has nothing to gain from this unless she secretly wants her brother to get worse. >Long running themeYeah this theme is running like a retard on muscle relaxers that's for sure. People have said it sucks that her mom has her babysit often, that doesn't justify what she's doing regarding the extra food she made for Mike.>>155220704>>155221095>It's only okay to be angry if you're a male in this comic.No. It's only okay to be angry if you're one of taeshi's favorites in this comic. Lucy spends most of her time pissed off and gets away with a ton of shit she shouldn't. Augustus causes Lits and James goes along with his side and Taeshi defends both their actions on the blog every time it comes up. Sue gets angry and gets fucking owned at least twice before the chapter is over. Mike is still paying for getting angry back in december, Abbey's anger against Paulo was constantly treated as being in the wrong despite Paulo being a retard about the whole situation. Daisy gets angry and Taeshi ends up slapping her with Misogyny allegations.>"Lucy caused Line in the sand!"Lucy did not directly start the event but she had every chance to stop it. Instead she got mad and kicked Mike when he did try to explain himself, Gassslit everyone, and made the final call on Mike being exiled from the table. The current situation is mostly her fault, which made her running back to him so infuriating for everyone reading it.
>>155219829>sandy>likeable >middle of the morality scalecalls into question your judgment in its entirety
>>155220605>that PS at the endOkay, so that's confirmation of what I've long suspected: Taeshi does not understand empathy. She thinks you can feel bad for character (A) AND character (B) even when each of them is the other's main problem. That's not how this works. If someone feels bad for Mike getting abused, gaslit, and guilttripped, then they'll hate Lucy for doing it. And if someone feels bad for Lucy getting her heart broken, then they'll hate Mike for doing it.Same with the Lucy/Daisy beef, or the Paulo/Abbey beef, or Daisy/Abbey, or Lucy/Paulo, or any other instance of dramatic tension between two characters in BCB. None of the examples in BCB of characters being at odds are just circumstantial, this isn't Romance of the Three Kingdoms, it's a high school setting where all the characters started out as friends. When (A)'s problems are directly due to (B) being mean, you can't ask that people feel bad for (A) but NOT blame (B) for it.>>155221702>Nice people would rather change the subject (...) they'd push to move on because we're just having fun here :)Whew that's some projection.While it's good that Taeshi is backpedaling on it (somewhat), I'm still rolling my eyes at her insistence that Mike and Daisy being "nice" is some kind of sin. As if them NOT being constantly abrasive and hostile is actually a negative relative to Paulo & Lucy's good honest assholery.
>>155222020but anon, it's the thought that counts
>>155221655There's saying Mike's sperg shit was dumb and getting sick of the sad sack shit, which I agree with too, and then there's the anti-Mikefag who just picks out pro-Mike comments to ragebait. He's always hostile when he does it.
>>155215697Hi kettle meet pot
>>155222168I think it's possible to empathize with someone and also call them out for acting like a dumbfuck or a massive shithead, wishing they'd stop and do better.>nice vs kindI also don't think that Lucy falls under the "kind" category. Each time she's gone out of her way for someone else, there was always some self-serving angle.
>>155218176Wow, it's like I'm really reading Taeshi's blog. But more concise!
>>155221702It's stuff like this that makes me worry I don't actually understand social interaction at all.
When is Mike getting a win?
>>155222261When he is either put on a bus or dies so he can escape the plot. His win condition seems to be getting as far away from Lucy as possible as the time period of Lucy's absence was when he was most chill
>>155222261in fanfics/fanart only
>>155222261
>>155222261Oh Mike wishes death would eventually come for him.
>>155222261Depends on your definition. I'm sure that BCB would regard "proving himself" to Lucy as a massive win.
>>155222261He won't since his world is run by a cruel author whose definition of a good ending would be twisting him into the asshole of her bitchy self insert's dreams
>>155222261When his heart gives up and implodes
>>155222261By chapter 133, allegedly.
>>155222587>Lucy>changedI am 95% sure the things looking "optimistic" for Mike is just another James-ish setup for yet one more fall.
Does anyone here still have that one image of Rose’s new family? It was a reference photo of her, the kid, and the father in a white void. It was posted a few weeks after they were revealed in New Year’s Resolution. Tried looking through the desu, but no luck
>>155221353I appreciate it, anon
>>155222611Taeshi never actually says Lucy HAS changed in that post, she just says Lucy "tried to change" and "had to change". Probably because that post was before the last chapter, where the whole point was revealing that Lucy is STILL obsessive and clingy, and goes nonfunctional without her dedicated male handler on hand.
>>155222773You're welcome, and besides, for anyone curious about the comments, here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/bcb/comments/1w16zw0/i_wonder_why_fans_disapprove_haley/
>>155220605>>155221702>>155222168The escalating wrestling match between Taeshi and words middle schoolers have a grasp on is just more cope that her story sucks to read, wicked.>Paulo would be kinder than MikeThe example image is something else. One chapter right before this Paulo was colluding with the other 2 losers at the table to ruin Mike's date with the snake for the sake of his ego. In the same chapter Paulo tries taking Mike's vidya consoles for himself and smashes Mike's mouse. And even right afterward he goes on to say its bullshit that people like him so much and doesn't deserve the love and adoration he gets. Hell, the intermission after that chapter has Paulo get mad people don't fucking like him and he goes to fuck Rachel to feel better AGAIN. I know its all just sympathy for the assholes episode 412, but god damn its irritating just how easily verifiable how wrong she is about the shit she writes.
>>155222724
>>155223385His mom is kinda hot even if she's a horrible person
>>155223423The BCB special
>>155223385Her husband looks like a fusion of Tails and Daisy.
>>155223385God she's so fucking based.
>>155218753Technically. It’s a novella type thing now. Which sucks because I never really read it for its writing quality lol. I loved the authors comic work most.
>>155223385Thank you!
>>155219215Man, remember when this comic had colour? Good times.
>>155220605Most of Haley's screentime is her being mad Mike exists. There's absolutely nothing he could have done to her for her to be this mad and retconning it wont work. She just made Haley bitchy and thinks "YOU NEED TO HAVE EMPATHY FOR HER!" automatically.Empathy isnt a pass for a character being extra stupid and that's what Haley is being right now. Making things potentially worse for herself in the long run because she can't be assed to just give her brother a sandwich and go.I don't even know what long running theme she's talking about here because the comic has just been the mike torture show for over ten years. Nothing good can happen to this nigga long term. James was just the worst rug pull
>>155224380>themeThis comic is a thinly veiled excuse to keep torturing scarf cat, powder bow cat's ass, and write whatever insipid little nothing plots percolate through her brain. It just would not do to admit as much. That and she herself might want to imagine there is something deeper to her own work.
>>155223385I'm surprised there isn't any porn of Paulo's mom with a design like that
>>155225190No one reads this comic anymore, there's no artfags left and the only new art are commissions
>>155223385His head and face are so weirdly lopsided.
>>155222261Right here, right now.
>>155225548>picHe seems to have no thought in his head. How did he manage to get Paulo's mother behind Paulo's father's back?
>>155225712With all the nonsense going on in his life, maybe becoming a hikikomori is the best option for him. If he's lucky, he might even be sent to another world.
>>155223385Im dont know much about comic and stuff but I think the problem is Taeshi not giving a fuck about her characters because what do you mean you can't even give 10 seconds to fix your shit
>>155226525It's a reference sheet lmao
>>155225769>Mike gets the rudeus special.What would be a decent isekai for Mike anyhow?
>>155222261when he diesmany such cases
>>155216425>using the C-word in BIG 2026 cringe...
>>155226525The anatomy in the comic sucks on the regular. It's a die toss as to how fucked up the hands will look in any panel.
>>155226525Comics and comics material aren't illustrations and don't deserve the same attention to detail because they're intended to be consumed quickly.
>>155227496I wonder if Taeshi tells herself this.
>>155227509In this case she would be correct. This is a universal among comics authors who update more than once a year.
>>155227550Right, much like the earth is flat.
>>155225712You missed the part where the game crashed and the save was corrupted
>>155215697I don't recognize any of these characters.None of them are crying.
>>155223306What’s up with the incest guy in the comments and not taking a hint?
10/31 segments are done now. Sorry about the wait, I'm genuinely dealing with clinical depression and suicidal ideation at this point.Everything I do feels like a monumental task and I barely find enjoyment in anything anymore
>>155227937I'm not even going to look and I can bet the guy has some sort of "ultimavenger" on the name
>>155228041Ultimateautism wasn't so much into incest as he was generalized child shipping, or so I recall.
>>155216096Yes. Compassion and love quiet the howling mind and grant serenity, even if only for a brief moment.
>>155216154Hear me and rejoice! You have had the privilege of being fed by the Great Titan. You may think this is mere sustenance. No... it is ambrosia. The universal scales tip toward balance because of your nourishment. Smile... for in feasting, you have become a child of Thanos.
>>155216096This >>155216158It wouldn't have been major in the moment, but it would've mattered. Never underestimate the power of even small acts of kindness and support to those going through a rough time
>>155225742They worked together or something like that I think.
>>155225742He's the Mike of that generation>Implied neglected kid>Goes to a funeral to make it about herself And guess who's the Lucy
>>155227983Sounds like you need to get your mental health in check instead of spending time on BCB. This comic will only make you feel worse
Don't worry, I'm still persisting and writing brings me some semblance of happiness despite being taxing.Besides, I'd much rather go through this than be stripped of my freedom and locked in a shitty room for daring to ask for help.
>>155228663You'll end up in a shitty room denied of your freedom if you don't take steps to stabilize your mental wellbeing before the pressures of life completely wear you down.
>>155228586Damn, Rosevilla is truly condemned to an eternal cycle of Mucy.
>>155228586They kind of look alike, now that you mention it.
>>155229152Looks like Matt
>>155229160Matt's just fat gay Mike so the point still stands
>>155229204Matt is Mike but larger and not schizophrenic. The "gay" part is redundant nowadays.
>>155229204All cat characters in this comic are just modified Mikes due to Taeshi's limited artistic repertoire. Samebeanface is a real bitch.
>>155229152So basically, she went to the funeral to flex about her better family but then got yelled at by Daisy for not being there for paulo and ends up salty?also she cheated while she was with paulo's dad apparently?
>>155229222Matt is a non-character
>>155229282BPD incarnate.
>>155229282That and I suppose she needs a copy of the death certificate as evidence to stop paying child care, which they make an emphasis they're relieved about
>>155229282No, she went to the funeral because Paulo was her son and she wanted to say her farewells. She did cheat on Paulo's dad with her current husband.
>>155229282>also she cheated while she was with paulo's dad apparently?Yes
>>155229412She said farewell when that nigga was a toddler.>>155229394Pretty shitty but in line with BCB characters.
>>155229412I'd the description that anon made was accurate, which it seems was, she was more upset about the things SHE missed doing with Paulo and the chances she wouldn't get back, but she had relinquished those when she dumped both him and his dad, if she really had a thing for the other guy and was already planning to make a family with him there was NOTHING that stoped her from getting Paulo in the divorce except her disdain for him, so fuck her regret
>>155215697
>>155215697the first panel but an edit where everyone is looking at haley's dick instead of the bag
>>155228451Based Squidward
>>155225742>>155228586It's just Lucy, Paulo, and Mike drama playing out but with adults.Paulo's mom(Lucy) settled with Paulo's dad(Paulo) but she really wanted the guy she ended up cheating on him with(Mike), who was at first in another relationship with his own version of Sandy, and after being ground down enough he was finally someone she could whip into doing whatever she wanted.By the time she had her hooks in him he's a shell of his former self. Poor bastard.
>>155230185The description we got portrayed Clara's dad as an asshole like the mom by the end. Which would track with Lucy corrupting Mike into a Suitcase clone.
>>155226532Referencing a wrong sheet is big brain apparently, the bci should have the guy with asymmetrical eyes and yet.. sad excuses
>>155230639Post art
>>155230761Nta but ok
bumping just in case we get more asks
>>155230761Also nta, but here's one of my favorite artworks.
>>155230761I'll get banned :(
>>155229222I'm still mad Taeshi had Paulo spill his spaghetti and then shoot down Jordan's desire to date him immediately.God forbid something fucking happen.
>>155229412Kek no. She went for entirely selfish reasons.
>>155225769>>155226690>I got sent to another world and became a healer who set out to rescue the princess Synda, but the female barbarian in my party is jealous!
>>155226690He had anime protag blood in him early on, a more lighthearted shounen could reawaken that...Maybe TTGL, he needs himself a Kamina bro. FLCL would do him some good working out how to deal with his feelings for crazy bitches too.
>>155232976>I was reincarnated in the torture dimension and somehow I'm happier than I was before
>>155226690School Days
>>155233215God that takes me back.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gd6u8nCIW4
>>155233215>Taeshi gleefully rubs her hands in anticipation>hfw nothing bad happens>turns out Mike isn't actually a complete dirtbag like Makoto no matter how much she insists otherwise
>>155229412No wonder he looks so confused in the car here >>155229152, he's like "Why the hell did this crazy bitch even drag me here? I never met the kid and his dad is the guy I cucked."
>>155233283>>turns out Mike isn't actually a complete dirtbag like Makoto no matter how much she insists otherwise>Mike gets Makoto's dad.You think Mike might actually snap and murder him? That man is actually 100 times worse than Aleij.
>>155215697Despite being only 13% of the population, white cats make up 90% of cunts.
>>155233708How old IS this incest freak at the end of the chain of knocking up his own daughters?
wild that the only woman that cares about Mike at this point is his mom.
Like clockwork, Taeshi’s started crying misogyny again on tumblr
>>155215986And on his gravestone it will read:>At least his mother fucking loved him
Maybe this would work better if Taeshi didn’t decide to just now give Mike’s family any kind of dynamic after existing as characters for two decades. One offhand mention that Mike’s mom is making Haley babysit too much is not enough to make her look sympathetic when she makes over being asked to bring Mike lunch
>>155234353It's not one mention, you just don't actually read this comic.
>>155234398I assume you mean the one bonus chapter where he babysits Chris from 13 years ago. Yeah that changes everything. The point is Mike's family life and dynamic has rarely been treated with importance and has barely come up before this current arc so it lacks emotional weight. Parents and family in general have not historically gotten a lot of focus in BCB for any character.
>>155234276I feel like this is going the Sakura route where the cult correctly identify the misogynistic writing in the comic but attribute it to anything but the author.
>>155234276/co/ is a sexist hellhole but also much misogyny is coming from inside the comic.
>>155234276If you're reading this comic, if you're getting invested in what the hardcore fans are saying then you only have yourself to blame.
>>155234276but wouldn't a boy not delivering lunch to his sister with an eating disorder be received even worse?
>>155234276Taeshi is just a step away from going>The reason Lucy doesn't like any of the other girls in the comic is because all of them are sexist>>155234553>>155234581I don't think BCB passes the bechdel test in either direction. Has there ever been a conversation in the comic that wasn't either between or about love interests?
>>155234276>MisogynyShe's like a kid that learned a new world oh my fucking god.Haley is getting treated this way because she can't be assed to give her brother a sandwich. If haley was male the reaction would be the fucking same.Lucy gets shit because she does things without consequences hitting her like they would everyone else.People generally like Daisy. She feels jealous of lucy because she does have a point about guys gunning for her without doing anything despite her horrible personality.
>>155232976
>>155234978>If haley was male the reaction would be the fucking same.Much worse, really.
>>155234978But anon, Lucy never fucking wanted it.Except for when she did. Also she melts down when she doesn't get it.
>>155235401>Big sis has an eating disorder>Busy Dad writes a note to reaffirm parental love.>Ball up note and try to feed friends the food while shit talking dad.Pages upon pages of calling Hale a fucking peice of shit. Can't imagine it stopping desu. Especially since is the first actual showing of any character.
>>155236066Dubs of truth. I wish Taeshi would take the bait on one of these gender reversal scenarios and try to justify herself.
>>155236179>take the bait on one of these gender reversal scenarios and try to justify herself.That might actually kill the fucking comic if she chooses the wrong moment. She needs to pick one like pic.
Does anyone have the download for the cats'n'drama font?
>>155233375He and Paulo's dad are actually surprisingly cordial with one another.
>>155236492https://files.catbox.moe/ppt2lr.zip
>>155232956Why do so many of you anons find it hard to believe that just because she's a raging bitch who resents Paulo's dad out of a belief he wasted her youth and views Paulo as a living representation of that, she doesn't have some level of love for her son and regrets about abandoning him. I'm not putting her up for parent of the year, that award obviously belongs to Thanos >>155228451, but she's not a completely heartless monster.
>>155236890Maybe I'm biased since I come from circumstances, but it's the fact that none of that actually mattered until she didn't have the option anymore, she was very happy with Paulo only being a monthly spending, if he was (as he is) alive she wouldn't care not have these found feelings. The payment of child support implies she's on good enough terms with his dad to maybe check on him or spend a weekend with them, but none of that happens. It's the least she could have done and still found a way to make it about herself
Has the Paulo mom comic been posted somewhere?
>>155237081I got the feeling her abandoning Paulo was something that quietly bothered her whenever her thoughts turned to him, but she was able to smother it with self-justifications and always had the "when he's older I can fix it." Then he died abandoned and estranged from her, leaving her with no "I can make amends later", just a dead son and her own self-loathing about how badly she failed him as a mother. I think she's also well aware that even if Paulo had not died and actually reached out to her, she probably wouldn't have mended fences at all and would have been a total bitch to him because seeing him would remind her of her failure, so she's got that weighing on her as well.Like I said, I'm not saying she's a good person, she's up there as one of the worst parents in the comic and that's something considering how low the bar is, but she is genuinely grieving for the loss of her child.
>>155238399Don't think so, pretty much only a description and a few panels.
>>155238440Why is everyone talking like they know what happens it in?
>>155233215Would've been a fun story
>>155238488It was a very good description
>>155238596Where
>>155220605>Haley is mad and mike is sad and if you're mad you're a bad person!People are sympathising with the guy who's been outcast and abused rather than the ones who are lashing out at him over imagined slights? How hypocritical of them
>>155238707Other threads, check the archives.
Bump
>>155238596Thank you, glad to know I did a good job.>>155238707Opens with Paulo's mom being a bitch to her daughter, whose name is apparently Clara, for dicking around at swim practice. Paulo's dad then calls, and Mama Paulo is like "Fuck off, giving him money for his birthday was a one-time deal you broke ass bitch". She then falls to her knees in shock at learning of her son's passing as her daughter asks what's wrong. Next scene is her driving to the funeral, deep in thought and angsty about how everyone at the funeral is gonna think she's a total bitch and the worst mom in the world (I dunnoe why she would think that, she has no idea how old Paulo was, which is clearly top-shelf momming). She then mentally bitches about how Paulo's dad is a college dropout alcoholic who Mama Paulo felt babytrapped by him and so ended up in affair with her current partner, and then blames Papa Paulo for failing in his singular responsibility of keeping "his son" alive. Next scene is Paulo's dad greeting them and thanking them for coming, and Mama Paulo says "Obviously I'd come, he was my son" and Clara chimes in that she saw ducks on the drive, and Paulo's dad says that he's jealous and wishes he could have seen them and asks if they were big. Enraged to see competent adult-child interaction, Paulo's mom barks that they'll be going to their seats.Daisy's screeching up a storm inside as Abbey tries to calm her down, Matt blames himself for not driving, Jordan bemoans not springing for a limo, and Jess regrets being out sick. Paulo's mom bitchery ensues, then Abbey reaches out an olive branch and says not to hold it against Daisy, as she's just grieving someone she knew for a very long time. Rachel rocks up and says Daisy doesn't need to be sorry for being upset as the two of them stare daggers at Mama Paulo. Rachel then breaks down into tears as Mama Paulo sadly looks on and thinks about how Paulo made a lot of good friends and wonders what kind of man he was growing up to be.
>>155238707>>155241132 Papa Paulo delivers a pretty sweet eulogy (Noparentshouldhavetoburytheirchild.theoden), Mama Paulo thinks about how it didn't have to go this way and she could have been more of a presence in her son's life, then looks over at her daughter Clara and promises she won't allow anything to happen to her. She then gazes at the casket and ponders what his favorite song was, his favorite drink, whether he still likes grape juice, and how she missed it all, then thinks about how Paulo always favored his father over her. Daisy then comes in from behind and is like "Aight bitch, what the fuck are you doing here, because you certainly weren't fucking here in his life up till now." Paulo's mom's gives the usual deadbeat parent bullshit and says she never abandoned him and claims Paulo never reached out to her and how she provided so much for him, to which Daisy responds with "Except with fucking love" and how that shit absolutely destroyed him inside. Abbey and Paulo's dad try and calm Daisy down, and Daisy yells at Paulo's mom for even daring to fucking show up, to which Mama Paulo asks if Daisy was his girlfriend or something and to show some tact as she's speaking to his mother. Daisy then responds that she loved Paulo, and still does, giving Abbey quite the heartbreak. Abbey then sighs in resignation and walks away (I am so fucking heated right now), as Daisy yells at Mama Paulo to just fuck off. Mama Paulo then asks if Paulo would have liked to know that his friends threw tantrums and made an absolute spectacle of his funeral, to which Lucy teleports in and says "Oh he'd fucking love it" with a smug smile (I'm even more heated right now somehow). The lunch table crew all agree with that assessment and chuckle at it, Mike is also there but says nothing but is included in the laughing with no sign of tension between him and Lucy, which I'm actually okay with because I've seen plenty of hatchets get buried at funerals along with the corpse.
>>155238707>>155241132>>155241147Car ride home, Paulo's mom's husband asks if she's alright, to which she asks why she wouldn't be, to which he responds "Well that was your son's funeral" and she gets pissed and says "I was being sarcastic, of course I'm not fucking okay", but at least there's a silver lining in that she'll never have to talk to Paulo's dad ever again, to which her husband says "And we'll have another $2k a month" and she laughs and says "However will Rodrigo survive without me?" She then sinks back into thought and says that none of them will ever understand how hard she's had to fight to get where she in life, but at least she'll never have to talk to any of them again. Not Paulo's dad, not his friends, and after a moment, tearfully thinks "Not Paulo" before thinking about how he was practically a stranger to her that she never got the opportunity to know, but she's got her family that she's sacrificed so much for now, a family that she loves and will keep safe, and how she deserves that.Sho
>>155241158>never had the opportunity to know PauloSomeone needs to ask Taeshi point blank whether we are meant to empathize with such a self-centered, mentally retarded creature.
>>155241158Thank you for sharing this horror story.
>>155220605At this point i think the Mike defenders are getting to her on some level and have been since LitS. But I think it's not so much that Mike is being defended, it's that people aren't siding with the characters she wants you to side with at the same time.She does want people to have empathy for Mike, but also just as much, if not more, empathy for the same people landing hits to his mental health and that just isn't possible. The Lucy dreams fall flat and make her decisions look even stupider on top of constantly getting a pass for her general behavior. Augustus is just bullying. David is a meme dog that hates Mike because Paulo finds him more emotionally mature. And James is just flightly and cashed his rep into the ground by being so.Misogyny claims fall flat because people will feel bad for Daisy and Sue despite their flaws. They don't get a fraction of the critism that Lucy does for clear reasons. People have felt bad for both moms due to their family situations. They even felt bad for Haley with having to watch chris so much. The problem with her comes from the fact that not only is giving him the food not a tall order, she could just hand it to him and go, but there was no reason to crumple up the note and the hatred she has for both her mom and her brother don't match up to whatever they did to earn it. Especially since it's shown that their mom is having a hard time dealing with her job and her husband not being around. It's not like she's just pawning Chris off on her for shits and giggles.If this were any other comic then I'd expect Haley to get called out at some point this chapter and realize she's in the wrong or, if Haley being unlikable is the intent, for the author to double down with her like this.But with Taeshi, the likely thing is that she makes Haley double down but still wants you to like her despite that.
>>155241590Yeah poor Sue got shat on a few chapters ago.
>>155241218You're going to have to be more specific
>>155241218It's up in the air with her but I would assume we aren't. She had her chances to see Paulo and spend time with him but decided not to. It's her own fault she never had the chance to know him. Not to mention, Taeshi gave the little sister an age retcon so now you add that she cheated on Paulo's dad before they split.But I feel like if you word a question about her in a certain way, she'll end up defending the woman whether she realizes it or not. After all, she goes to bat for Sandy after she cheated.
>>155242313>But I feel like if you word a question about her in a certain way, she'll end up defending the woman whether she realizes it or notLike she did with Abbey's dad
>>155223385FFK
>>155242906Wait what? No way she defended the guy that pretty much beat his wife to death.
>>155241218No, I'm pretty sure you aren't.That said, I like her anyways. Paulo DOES suck, and anyone in BCB who's smart enough to cut their losses and escape the curse of Roseville is cool in my books. Plus she's so selfish it wraps around to being based.Even Lucy herself could immediately win my approval if she went "Wait a sec, I hate everyone here and had no reason to come back. Hey mom, can I transfer schools again?" and left.
>>155242313>After all, she goes to bat for Sandy after she cheated.It's still fucking baffling why taeshi decided that this was the hill to die on. Cuz of the bullshit spewed from her mouth, we got cheating apologia from like a third of the fanbase. Sure you could argue Sandy had her reasons, but in the end there shouldn't be any excuse for what she did. Sandy cheated on Mike, full blown cheated, like physically with another person. Not some bullshit like "emotional cheating" like how everyone says Mike did it with Lucy. Sandy believes she's in the clear since Mike forgave her right? Lol, lmao even. Mike's resentment has been steadily building up and his perception of her is forever tainted. There's no recovering that relationship, and it's mostly Sandy's fault.
>>155243488I could see excusing it if it was a creepy grooming/predation thing but apparently we're not supposed to see it like that?
>>155243488>It's Sandy's fault Mike didn't actually forgive her despite saying he did and getting back together with herHmm
>>155243488>>155243612Mike is also an idiot and I want him to die.
>>155243387He did beat his wife to death, she just didn't die immediately.But Taeshi, ever the master of unintentionally making things seem even worse, was willing to "entertain the thought exercise" that it was Abbey's fault. Which is pretty fucked up given that she just mocks any asks about the bad shit Lucy or Paulo have done, rather than engaging with them on their terms the way she did with pic related.That said: The anon who sent the ask and those who extrapolate that out to "Taeshi defended Abraham and agreed that it was Abbey's fault" are clearly acting in bad faith. But giving Taeshi the benefit of the doubt is a bad idea, so eh, take from it what you will.
>>155243645
>>155243697It's the only way he will be free.
>>155243551Sandy exists in a quantum evilness superposition that depends entirely on Francis' age. If Francis is her age she's giga-evil (cheating on her boyfriend, basically bragging to him about it, threatening to do it again to spite her mom) and if Francis is an adult then she's a literal fashion victim and up there with Abbey in terms of the most tragic members of the cast.
>>155243645>>155243697>>155243716I mean currently we have people in the discord actively wishing for his death and claiming everything bad thing in the comic is his fault lolThese people are the biggest Lucy simps you'll ever see cuz they'll look at her behavior and attitude previous chapter and say "oh my poor baby"
>>155243551Taeshi seems to want to keep that option open, but also doesn't seem to want anyone getting the "wrong" impression and thinking Sandy isn't a DUMB WHORE who CHEATED. There was a screenshot of Taeshi on discord saying that yes, Sandy did get groomed and Francis is in his early 20s, but Sandy liked it and thought of him as her cool older boyfriend so she's not a victim (the misogyny accusations are coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE).But I'll still go into the trenches to defend Sandy. Mike was and remains a pretty bad boyfriend; that doesn't EXCUSE cheating, but it is important context. Sandy also confessed that she'd cheated rather than getting "caught", felt guilty about it, and I interpret her breaking up with him as altruistic (given that she was clearly upset, she immediately regretted it, she panicked and tried to "fix" things, and her primary fear was for Mike). And Sandy IS a victim of a creepy exploitative industry, regardless of what Taeshi says. So I feel there's enough mitigating factors for Sandy's singular sin that on balance I'm still sympathetic towards her.
>>155241147I thought this actually didn't sound bad but damn the abbey cuckery and lucy one liner seems unnecessary
>>155243488>Sandy had her reasonsNo, she didn't. Just fucking break up with the other person before that shit. It is not that hard. People would prefer to be broken up with vs cheated on.>>155243612Mike literally feels jackshit talking to Sandy and only took her back out of guilt for her "sacrifices," according to Taeshi.
>>155244152>Mike was and remains a pretty bad boyfriendI honestly like that angle and it's a far better reason to blame Mike, even though it was his very first relationship. Mike simply didn't know how to be a good boyfriend, he comes off as very needy and at times doesn't think of what the other person wants. I can appreciate that flaw cuz it's very human, but does that mean he deserved getting cheated on? Hell no, no one deserves to go through that. If anything this should've traumatized Mike enough to swear off relationships but the guy is too much of a simp to become independent.
>>155244263It'd certainly be a more compelling plotline than whatever this nonsense about traumatizing Lucy via letters is.
Lucy should have considered cutting herself to guilt-trip Mike into being her friend rather than being a little shit. If it's possible to emotionally manipulate and blackmail him with a phone call (and a bad writer), then shallow cuts would have done the job. Lucy is the type to guilt-trip with it too.>>155244263>Sandyfags are now samfagging.It's very impressive the lengths to defend an unshamed, cheating white cat here. If Sandy didn't feel her emotional needs were met, why not voice them or simply break up with Mike instead of ghosting him? After all, she has no issue voicing literally everything else.>>155244279I mean this without exaggeration. Taehsi can't write female character trauma for shit.>Mike feels alone>Paulo's mommy issues and workign dad>Abbey's lifeLiterally all better reasons for freak-outs vs letts with Lucy. Even Daisy's desire for male attention is better written.
>>155244152>There was a screenshot of Taeshi on discord saying that yes, Sandy did get groomed and Francis is in his early 20s, but Sandy liked it and thought of him as her cool older boyfriend so she's not a victimTae that doesn't mean Sandy isn't a victim...
>>155244152>but Sandy liked it and thought of him as her cool older boyfriend so she's not a victimanyone have a screenshot of this? because I really doubt the discord would have let that slide
>>155215697It's not grooming because Sandy liked it....
>>155244263>this should've traumatized Mike enough to swear off relationships but the guy is too much of a simpOne huge factor why Mike forgives Sandy is from Sandy mentioning that she feared Mike would kill himself over it, as it puts Mike into Sandy's shoes with what happened with him and Lucy killing herself.
>>155232930But anon, Paulo is totally a mature and trustworthy guru. Him having 5 exes at 16 makes him the expert on relationships, and him begrudgingly accepting he's bisexual despite having 0 gay relationships and a history of homophobia makes him the expert on being gay.Besides Jordan and Tiff are just joke characters, it's not that deep. We have Mucy drama to get to!
>>155245120You just reminded me of the guy that I ironically defended Paulo as being the most mature character in the comic because he wasn't a virgin and had a car
>>155245223How would that make you mature?> The first time was getting drunkenly fucked by a lesbo in a bathroom stall.>Already has 5 exes, and he doesn't even talk to most of them; none of the relationships ended well.> Gets emotionally blackmailed over the weakest blackmail ever. It has no power over you if you tell Mike and apologize.The fuck is Lucy gonna do? Reveal the offer, you own up to it, and she brags she tried to emotionally control you?>Can't even bother to keep a trash bag in the car so shit doesnt go everywhere, or at least clean it up before taking gf for a shitty double date.The last one bothers me a bit because it was so easily solvable and just makes Paulo look bad for no reason.
