So what can we even expect from her backstory segment or whatever? They've laid on her wickedness to such a cartoonish degree (go figure) that nobody is going to believe any depiction of her ever being decent. They quite literally had a character shove a photo into our faces of her strangling little demon-puppies as a toddler, telling us that she's always been a raging bitch.Why even bother with an origin story in the coming season?
>>155225326>So what can we even expect from her backstory segment or whatever?that royals having children with other royals is faggotryeasy
No way you're taking Vivziepop writing seriously. Just watch donutsteel characters be cringe while having a boner.
>>155225326Whatever it is, it'll be garbage.
do you even like this slop
>>155225860We did, once upon a time.
>>155225699Now this guy faps.
>>155225326>Viv ditching all previous characterizations in favor of whatever her current mood isNo way, she could never do such thing
>>155226178Lol
>>155225326Would.
>>155225326Would plap that so hard
>>155225326Goetia appear to be jerks at the genetic level so its hard to argue that shes evil, Stolas is severely mentally ill by Goetia standards
>>155225326I've said this before but...It is my hopeful opinion that Stella is meant to be a case study about how female villains are treated. We have characters that are much worse than Stella. Stella is constantly the most hated regardless of this fact. Even though Stella is just as much a victim as any of the male characters. Because she's spiteful and vocal a lot of fans characterize Stella as a stupid neglectful gold digging bimbo. Even her own brother thinks so. People assume she's a terrible wife so she must be a terrible mother. But we only have evidence that Stella cares for Octavia at least a little. Remember that she admitted she had to pretend to like Stolas until he gave her a child which implies that child has some value to her. We know from a seemingly throw away line that she doesn't want Octavia turned against her. Her very first "interaction" with her, which also happens to be her first line in the show, suggests that Octavia was used Stella and Stolas her. Stolas even differs to her as if he's used to her taking care of Octavia. But this one instance of refusal paints her as neglectful.Fans use her photo as evidence that she was always a brat. But a lot of fans don't notice that taking a picture of this implies intentionally immortalizing a moment. Meaning this moment wasn't a mistake and that this behavior is being championed. I think Stella has been trained to be deceitful. There's a lot NOT shown here and I think that's intentional. Because what we don't know is her motivations.To which I have to guess is to prop up Octavia as something she could never be. A female Goetia that isn't just a trophy wife. Even if Stella loses everything. She clearly does not care. But this also isn't some sappy backstory to justify her actions. She is STILL a spiteful bitch but as much a victim of a fucked up society that champions being cruel as the male leads. Unlike Blitzo she has reasons to be this duplicitous yet she is the one that is villainous.
>>155225326Not sure what they have planned for her past I think they want to give her a story similar to Beatrice Sugarman's But regardless I hope she eventually finds some happiness in the present, maybe with Striker lol
>>155226893She liked bojack horseman. Its basically the genesis of the hellaverse.She saw bojack liked the idea of wether horrible people can be redeemed and noticed her angel and demons arc of zoophobia could be retooled into such a story.Question is who had Stella's story arc prior to helluvaboss being spun off?I dont think she was originally in hazbin hotel in that sense and was a new addition like millie. And I think differnt characters inherited older roles/plots.Angels dad henroin became moxxies dad crimson. Crymmani became loona and I think seviathan became chaz.
>>155226920>She liked bojack horsemanThat says it all lol
>>155225839SEX!
>>155227111Settle down Hesh
Anons, please don't pretend you don't know FULLY WELL what they're gonna do.If Stella ever gets a sympathetic backstory, they're gonna do it by making her a lesbo, because that's the literal only way they can make someone sympathetic. See what they did with >>155227447
>>155225326I don't give a damn what Vivzie does. Stella lives in my heart untarnieshed by whatever gay as fujoshit the show runners decide to do.
>>155227160SCREW THAT! HESH WANTS SEX!
>>155227493Mrs. Mayberry being lesbian doesn't justify her committing first-degree murder and first-degree attempted murder. She's still evil and deserves to be in Hell.
I feel very bad for Loona bros.It seems they are cursed to have nothing nice on this earth without troons and goons ruining it.
>>155227955Ms.Mayberry is very clearly shown as being a good person, and then she becomes a lesbo with the woman that cucked her despite her being shown as an evil bitch.
>>155227976Being a Loona fan is suffering but at least we got HIL out of it
>>155227981Anon, she committed first-degree murder and first-degree attempted murder and is in Hell. She is not a good person. She still wanted to kill Martha when she ended up in Hell and she didn't know about the cannibalistic murderer stuff. She's evil through and through.
>>155228138>Anon, she committed first-degree murder and first-degree attempted murder and is in HellYou're pretending like this isn't a show where the good guys are assassins. And don't try to pretend they aren't treated as such, just compare it to how stella is treated by the narration.
Reminder that Stella has never killed anyone and that Stolas' affair has directly led to the filling of entire graveyards.
>>155228295Yeah all things considered this is also the story of a demon killing various people before their time to dieSure episode zero establishes that they kill mainly bad people but it's never shown that them doing this is a net positive for the world. It isn't like death note where the author shows that the character killing people like this leads to a better life for others.Also because they established targets don't track down IMP, we don't have moments where they break down finding out they were killed by a fuck up who did it for like a couple bucks so he can buy shitty horse merchAnd sure the demons don't care about humans but it also shows they don't have a care for life in general so it makes it hard to care about theirs Without the comedic aspect, this is a grim show. It's like Friends without the laugh track
>>155225326The problem with Vivziepop as a creator is that's she's to straight. Like she's a fujo and fetishizes gay men but unlike 90% of the bitches who do that she's also not a dyke so she literally couldn't give a single fuck about the female characters she creates. It's a real shame.
Head Canon.Stella at one boy fully loved Stolas but his disdain and disgust for her degraded her ego over time despite countless attempts to make the prince she adored see her as more than just a bratty ball and chain.
Bzzzz bzzzz.
>>155228712Not only that but she came out as asexual a couple of months ago
Bros, how does being loved feel like?
>>155228712You're dumb. She's a woman. Of course she cares about he->Millie exists only as a cum dump that fixes Moxies' problems>Loona exists only to make Blitzo sympathetic with no real change.>Octavia is quite literally forgotten by Stolas and only exists for 3 episodes.>Verosika fucks cops>Beelzebub fucked Chaz>Sallie May is literally a dude>Barbie Wire is in a crumbling relationship and seduces children
>>155228764Lol. Anyone who believes that is a moron.
>>155228770One of two major reasons I haven't an heroed yet.
>>155228743>Beezelbub fans when people want to talk about literally any other female characterI agree you're based, Bee, but buzz off.
>>155228721Jesus christ I butchered that post I'm going to sleep
>>155228813
>>155228791I genuinely thought an hero was a youtuber or e-celebrity that killed himself and that's why people use "an hero" as a euphemism for suicide.
>>155228829
>>155228840Zoomer moment.>>155228841
>>155228783Apparently that guy she seduced is 18.
>>155228224Mrs. Mayberry is still evil.
>>155228849>AI
Bee has 4 hands to slap you with. In rapid succession.
>>155228881>Offf
>>155228889Can use my ass like bongo drums.>>155228881Saved that pic cause it's funny.
>>155228910Giving fictional characters guns is one of the very few good things about slop. Worth destroying the planet faster for imo.
>>155228951>realistic human hand
>>155228898yeah ai is not good with words a lot of the time
>>155228959It was too funny of a mistake not to keep
Dumping Stolas in a lake with cement shoes.
>>155228783>Millie exists only as a cum dump That would imply that Moxxie bangs her instead of the other way around. >b-but the kidnot his
>>155229752I don't think Viv is going the cuck route
>>155229803it's going to be either cheating or abortion.
>>155229927I don't think it will be.
>>155229803$50 says M&M finally let Blitz be their 3rd and it went in the wrong hole.
>>155229955That kinda just sounds like wishful thinking, really.
>>155229944How else you gonna explain Millie? If it was just fear, she wouldn't hide it from Moxxie. Either she cheated, or Moxxie is about to go to arby's.
>>155229752Bold move by Vivzie to make Millie a cheating whore.
I unironically want stolas to demand blitz give him a quickie ill prepared with no condom, then having to make another precautionary heir with Stella as Octavia is asexual and refuses marriage, and the resulting cloaca kiss gets Blitz jizz in her snatch and we get an Imp hybrid heir for maximum scandal.
>>155230010"go to arby's" dafuq does that even mean?
>>155230032NTA but reference to the zootopia abortion comic
>>155230032arby's
>>155230088This made me laugh. Thank you.
>>155230010Moxxie isn't a fan of shitty fathers so I doubt he'd go to arby's and Millie is shown to really love Moxxie so I doubt she cheated. If she were an actual whore she would've fucked Chaz or that Imp guy that flirted with her.
>>155230010Or Viv is just plain bad at writing, which we know very well.
WHERE IS THE NEXT CHAPTER
>>155230262Screaming about it isn't gonna make it arrive any faster.
>>155230139>Moxxie isn't a fan of shitty fathers so I doubt he'd go to arby'sSee >>155230045
>>155230139>If she were an actual whore she would've fucked Chaz or that Imp guy that flirted with her.turns out she did cheat with blitzo
>>155230458Yeah, I know it's from the Zootopia abortion comic. What are you implying?
>>155230521So what does Moxxie going to arby's have to do with being a shitty father? If Millie aborted the kid, his quality as a father wouldn't matter.
>>155230507The drama from that would be nuclear.
>>155225326I hope she gets nothing. Just let her be a vapid bitch. It's fine like that.
>>155229968More precident than the loyal lovebird being infidelious and more funny/sensational than your typical happy accident.
>>155230579I just don't see it happening, seems more like something people WANT to happen for controversy but I just can't see Viv doing something that bold.
>>155230537I assumed going to arby's was him abandoning Millie and his child.
>>155230636in the original comic, nick leaves judy because she wants to abort their kid for the sake of her careerin the arbys edit, he leaves to go to arbys after she calls his favorite restaurant shitty
Amazing creature. Vivzie should've sticked to simply designing characters (cannot deny that she is pretty decent in this) and leave actual plot for competenet people.
>>155230792>leave actual plot for competenet people.like who, fucking brandon?she surrounded herself with faggots and sycophants, theres no one on her team capable of writing something good and the S2 of hazbin has already confirmed that
Someone should've banged the goofy out of Viv.
>>155230875Give me a time machine and like an hour
How do you think Octavia would feel if she learned Stella had her own goth phase at 17?
>>155230970She would be hit with the sudden realization of how cringe she is
Anyone got that really built purple Goetia chick? Minerva I think you guys call her?
>>155230875>>155230965she used to look quite cute when she was younger...
>>155233084
>MSG is going on a hiatuswell, thats disappointing
>>155233302Well at least he's trying to fix his shit.
>>155233302>not wanting to grow more detached from this realm with his waifu Weak.
>>155233302You're supposed to detach yourself AFTER you finish your obsessive maladaptive work.
Imagine you slap Blitzo so hard he gets tourettes only no one can tell the difference between the tourettes and him talking normally
>>155227955Killing your adulterous husband and the slut he was banging is not hell material. No the suicide is what punched her ticket.
we need more bird ladies
>>155234020No you don't, you have more than plenty. Cherubs need some love.
>>155234207My big fat stupid hound wife.>>155234086This is true.>You are not leaving this room until you and I hold hands, mister!
>>155234367I'd pat her on the head.
she had potential and wasted it due to not evolving as a writer.
>>155227111>>155227888
>>155234603>Pet her on the head.>Keenie.exe has stopped working.
>>155234719Think she has a praise kink?
>>155234728Kink? Nah.Craving? Yes.
>>155234751Cute
>>155233302Good on him. Writing while your life isn’t in order typically destroys you even more.
Considering how much viv hates stella ill be suprise if she even gets a backstory at all or if she does its just wont all go to her shitty andrealphus leaving her with nothing (at most they will show shes was turbo super evil at birth with no depth just to add more pity points for stolas) Honestly my biggest fear with this new season is that they just kill her off for no reason since i would get super depressed even if i dont watch this show anymore outside of just clips of her and im not sure if they will or not , just want her to live happily and for more merch of her
>>155228694https://youtu.be/ughtJ6nLowY>>155227981An evil act sure, an evil person, absolutely not. Mayberry was supposed to be the kind of sinner Charlie was seeking to redeem; then in season two they made her lesbian for nothing more commodic waste for gullible queers. >>155234751Still looking for the lamb chops, Keenie Enjoyer?
>>155235450I doubt they would be selling merch of her if they were planning to kill her off>B-but what about adamAdam is still a character, even if only as a hallucination in lute's mindI think the worst that can happen to both stella and andre is the same as what happened to stolas: they end up destitute and banished
>>155231406Indeed I do, Anon, I only have four images of her though.
>>155236273
>>155228786Jokes on her; just like with Octavia, some peeps are drawing smut of her cartoon avatar.
>>155230507
>>155236375
>>155236380Actually, i have heard octavia IS her avatar, she self inserts as her
>>155236515>hfw I'm slithering under the covers coming for that sweet birdpoon
>>155236621>Her face a few seconds later
>>155235993I could rationalize it in a backwards way of them not wanting to make indirect spoilers since if they just stopped making merch of her out of no where it would be suspicous so they keep making it even tho shes a gonner (tho that is just me looking way to deep into it and overthinking) plus they were still making caz merch even after death (or fake death whatever) so im not sure how much of a metric it can be used as >they end up destitute and banishedSee i was thinking that could happen and it likely will since i dont see any other route they can go with both of them aside from killing them (since there no way in hell there gonna be given redemption arcs and have happy endings however much i want it to be the case). I sometimes wonder if viv and the writers underestimated stella popularity and had to change course to avoid pissing off her diehard fans but who knows, im just hope and pray she alright by the end of it
>>155236515She also said the same about Charlie.
>>155237550 >i want it to be the caseShould clarify i want stella to have a happy ending and live, i dont give a single fuck what happens to Andrealphus and only want him alive as proxy so that stella doesn't suffer (even if he robs her of screentime), if he dies and stella can live happy by all means
>>155237554True, but they are a bit differentCharlie is her wish fulfilment self insert, its what she wishes herself to be more like, her idealized selfOctavia is her realistic self insert, based more on how she actually is (or was at that period in her life)
Teenella...
>vivzie managed to finally get me to buy merch for a show I fucking hate That cunning bitch...
>>155238556>He gave in.
>>155228849 >155228881 >155228951 >155228964You tech bros are a 900$ RAM circus.
Look, I'm only here for the Porn and the merch. I don't even know what Stella sounds like.
^ Poser.
birds and insectoids are like the only two furry adjacent themes I cannot find attractivehave no idea why scalies are above birds though
>>155238738Me neither, but from what i've read, shes got a very annoying and shrill voice
>>155226676>case study about how female villains are treatedmore like how they're writtenvivzie can't write for shit>inb4 she didn't writeexactly my point
>>155238989Little bee in the background.
Im off to bed, night everyone
>>155225326I want to know how she found Striker in the first place
I miss the biblical thread lore.
>>155238584>Asus laptopWell I guess it makes sense she'd own one of those, given she's not that bright...
>>155239917Where was this? I want in.
>>155239599They seem to have normal social media
>>155239917>>155240273>Where was this? I want in. HB threads used to lean more Gnostic/Esoteric than the more Trad Christian HH threads. This mean that there was a lot of discussion based on Medieval Folklore, Jewish, Midrash, and the Apocrypha. Things shifted after Sharty. People stopped worldbuilding or writing little greens. HB threads also got a lot more incurious and preachy in their Religious sensibility, probably because of HHFags coming here. So, no heresy allowed except turning a deadly sin into a gud christian wife. The idea of taking story ideas from Mormonism, or an Byzantine Platonist grimoire is frowned upon now unless its couched in the language of porn.
>>155233302Now that MSG is gone, who's gonna be the next /ourguy/ to write a story with one of the hell ladies? After Loona and Octavia, I personally think it's time Stella gets hers.
>>155240573Weren't there still discussions like that after sharty? I remember them, they only died off along with all other discussion that wasn't just a couple anons spamming about Stella and Octavia constantly.
>>155240875If it's not Birnonymous then I don't want it.
>>155241280The show Is on standby real fans left all you have now are gooners, gooners have an agenda and will obliterate your show to get itJust look at what they did to adventure time, Stella is great like it is, arranged marriage ex for our Stolas protagonist, overwriting her to please gooners is silly and unnecessary
>>155241320I'm gonna be real with you anon, the only difference between the gooners here and the "real" fans is said fans are gayer and low functioning. The more active months had some gems but good lord was it a den of autism.
>>155241299Birnon was great for those few threads anon did it, but i'll take anything with stella.
>>155240573>This mean that there was a lot of discussion based on Medieval Folklore, Jewish, Midrash, and the Apocrypha.Come to modern Hazbin Hotel threads for this, unironically. Lute=Eve schizos love this stuff and drive out the proseltyzing trad Christians when they show their heads. The downside is your enjoyment will depend on how much you enjoy debating about Lute and Eve.
>>155241367Am a real fan I like the show the characters, the art style and even the writing Stella becoming a simp character is ok with me, they are horrible looking monsters and all they do makes sense in universe
I find the demonology lore most interesting. Solomon was great material in these threads.
>>155241600Also bringing up zoophibia too!
>>155233302I have to do this. Her ‘presence’ has come too close to destroying my life. I need to be fully independent and headstrong before I come back to her. It’ll be fucking hard. But I need to grow.Sometimes when you love someone, you gotta be a stranger.
>>155242432As an maladaptive daydreamer who's probably dedicated more thoughts to fictional characters than real people, I can't understand how someone can have their life ruined by a waifu besides maybe making all women look like shit in comparison. But I might just be too lacking in creativity.
>>155242819i can see it happening, especially if it gets to a point where youd rather stay in bed and daydream about her than get up or if you lose yourself thinking about her instead of doing whatever you were meant to do
>>155239599>>155240279>stella found striker on hells equivalent to facebookeven hell has its 30 year old boomers
>>155241280There were, you still get some good stuff in these HB threads every now and then. >>155241600That's why I stopped going to the hazbin threads, they became very boring. If you weren't interest in Lute/Eve stuff, good luck starting a conversation about anything else because that's all they talk about there, the gooner post in those threads are more natural than the lute/eve schizos.
>>155242913>There were, you still get some good stuff in these HB threads every now and then.Feels rarer and rarer.
>>155242872The trick is to gaslight yourself into using your waifu as motivation. I used mine to motivate me into going to the gym everyday because if I ever met her she probably wouldn't want some fat loser.
