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After episode 3 we should call him Hal “racist” Jordan
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>>155258785
Is this because you're racist?
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>>155258785
The point of the episode was that John's parents were WRONG and horrible people
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He's been like that since the 70s anon
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Counterpoint: fuck blacks, though.
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>>155258931
Go back
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>>155258945
White women.....
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>>155258951
I'm afraid pornhub lied to you anon.
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>>155258930
Cool, but have you considered that the dialogue is just dog-shit?
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>>155258785
Whining about white people is just beyond passé in current year
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>Treated like shit because she's black
>Husband had a chance to get a super powerful weapon but didn't because whites don't have to be afraid
>Raised her son into an emotionless killing machine to get said weapon
What was the next step in her plan?
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>>155258958
Oh that can be true too.
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>>155258785
you assume people are actually watching it and not reading what people say on twitter
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I was hoping John accidentally killed his mom lmao
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>>155258930
That wasn't the point at all.
The writer is a black sports mom and is telling a superhero version of how she is with her kids, because you gotta push them harder so they can be seen as equal to the mediocre whites, even though they are way better.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0BveqtOzcz0

https://youtu.be/MOSsrycA4vM?si=2DGTJK8sQOdUlRgj
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Really?? This fucking show in the big year of 2026 is whining about muh racism and evil whites??
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>>155259250
Hahahahaha so many people online think this is gonna end with John rejecting his parents for beinf crazy pieces of shit who abused him and have no idea this was meant to be seen as a good thjng
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>>155259250
Yes it was. The writer says in the podcast the parents go too far and they could have pushed John into any number of ways to get positive results that would have pushed John above his parent’s station. What the writer concedes is that the parent’s got the result they wanted and that it was effective.
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>>155258854
The schizo shill literally had to make another thread to shitpost until the bump limit again

Honestly that the show is enough to engender that level of loving attention is a good enough reason to watch all three episodes, and anyone who actually watches the show realizes that all the schizos complaints are hallucinations.

Its just a baffling shill for the show
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>heil Hitler junior

What the fuck was his problem?
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TWO Forbes articles for one episode? What?
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>>155259392
Who's Hitler Junior?
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>>155259432
Hitlers son, duh

I think he runs the Green Lantwen Corp. hence the Manhunter genocide
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>>155259402
They really want that Emmy.
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>>155258931
What made Hard Traveling Heroes great is that it was just Ollie and Hal one-upping each other going “You’re a racist chud!” and “you’re a gay liberal!”
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>>155259518
>>155259518
Hal could've used a bit more tact and Ollie is a retard for not noticing.
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>>155259582
>Hal could've used a bit more tac
He was 100% milking it for all the times Ollie called him a racist
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Can we talk about the one Guardian that's clearly a transsexual and likes running around as a woman?
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>John Stewart's parents are psychos who think Hal Jordon "got picked for being white", by aliens who didn't even understand the concept of race
>obsessed with their son being the Green Lantern, to the point of abuse, as if being a super hero is their ticket out of the ghetto or something (they're already middle class, and had the ability to send their son to art school)
If the episode wasn't supposed to make me feel that way, it failed.

Anyway, I actually enjoyed it. It was an interesting character portrait of people turned absolutely psychotic because of racial resentment.
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>>155258785
Good episode. I skipped all scenes with negroes talking to each other, though.
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Guy appeared in the trailer. How do you think John takes it when he learns you don't need to be autistic to get a ring?
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>>155259250
>sometimes you just have to shoot an apple off your son's head, because it's good for them
there's no way they believe that.
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>>155259705
The writers, at least as I see it, have a clear left-leaning view of racial hierarchy in the west, but they're also showing John's parents are utterly psychotic.
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>>155258785
show keeps getting worse and worse
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>>155259737
The mere existence of Guy must be so humiliating for John, nevermind Hal.
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>>155259783
Okay, but the Green Lanterns aren't the West.
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>a black person exists
>Anon: these niggers are calling me racist!
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>>155259796
Yes and that's part of what makes the parents psychotic. They've turned what would normally be regular grievances into an insane obsession directed at the wrong people. They make a point of showing the guardians don't even understand our racial terms, let alone perpetuate our racial systems.

But it's not just a race thing, that's the only part people get hung up on. A huge part of it is them perceiving not getting the ring as almost ruining their family. They're operating on a massive sunk cost fallacy all because John's dad got spooked too hard
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>>155259783
>HBO show potraying black people as bad
Kek bullshit. I bet that they will be validated at the end
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>>155258785
could always be worse
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>>155259870
>They've turned what would normally be regular grievances into an insane obsession directed at the wrong people. They make a point of showing the guardians don't even understand our racial terms, let alone perpetuate our racial systems.
Timely and an excellent commentary on MIGA culture war bullshit
Its not a mistake that the crowd being made fun of are loudly complaining about it
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>>155259964
I think you missed the point.
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I don't have enough brain damage to understand points made by retarded /pol/ tourists who are trying to shitpost about a series they've never seen
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>>155260004
We were having a perfectly reasoned and civil conversation until you got here.
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>>155260004
>I don't have enough brain damage to understand points made by retarded /pol/ tourists who are trying to shitpost about a series they've never seen
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>I'm in human form because ____
>In 2026
I thought we were passed this shit
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>>155260092
The show is so hurt by the lack of budget

>all aliens appear as regular humans “just trust me I’m an alien bro, no you can’t see”
>john jumps into a fucking black hole to talk to the guardian… lands in a fucking empty mall and talks to a normal woman in an office
The CGI for using the ring I like 2 minutes worth each episode

John landing on mattresses in the mall was so funny. They really couldn’t just have some weird void Space using green screen. Say he’s on Oa? You don’t need to show him the whole planet just a fucking weird alien room
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>>155258931

>Defends the planet, defends the galaxy
>BUT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY?

I understand now why so many have flocked to anime and manga.
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>>155260152
They could have avoided this by simply not adapting one of the least grounded superhero mythos as a limited budget TV show. There are plenty of other dc heroes this story and budget would have been a better fit with.
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>>155260187
>This single comic from 50 years ago is why manga is winning!
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>>155260262
American culture in general is pretty toxic, and has only gotten worse.
The way people take glee in stoking racial resentment even when it's entirely unwarranted, is enough to make anyone with sense desperate to get away from it all.
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how did the right lose the culture war?
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>>155259705
>>155259772
>>155259783
>>155259870
>>155259964

The actual writer of the episode goes into detail.
You're going to love this fir different reasons.
Lol.

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/tv-shows/lanterns-episode-3-john-stewart-origin-changes-explained/
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>>155260317
tldr
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>>155260326
>>155260317
Yeah, resume this shit.
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>>155260187
That's an extremely common reaction to people in power though. Hell, it's the basis upon people vote to this very day. There are lots of reasons manga is overtaking comics, but a person being written as a normal person isn't one of them
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>>155260297
Obsessed lmao
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>>155260152
They didn't even need CGI that's what makes it so frustrating. Just get a couple little people and put them in prosthetics and blue makeup. It's not hard.
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>>155260004
>>155259964
idiot
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They really made the guardians into giants because if they had them be tiny then they’d be accused of midgetface
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>>155260317
Where is that shill that was saying the show was trying to portray the parents as problematic, and Hal as also heroic? Kek. Where are you, you goddamn Babel Fish shill?
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>>155259250
Nigga they played ominous music every time they did something insane to John so retards like you wouldn’t misinterpret their actions as justified. They were crazy and were treated like so. The show even shows how John parents aren’t the typical black couple struggling financially or facing severe adversity. The had money and comfort but had a serious case of victim’s mentality.
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>>155260587
>struggling financially or facing severe adversity
They probably didn't do too bad on military pay, but the diamond offered to them was worth tens of millions of dollars

https://wwd.com/pop-culture/culture-news/2nd-largest-diamond-in-the-world-giant-diamond-found-botswana-1236554891/
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>>155260678
There’s a line in the episode where they say the diamond money was almost gone by the time John was like 12. What the fuck did they spent all that money on?
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>>155259518
>Gee Ollie, I wonder who he bought it from.
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>>155259964
Are you retarded or something?
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>>155260755
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>>155259582
Ollie very much deserved getting a boot to the face after this one because he literally abandoned Roy in the first place... and then he throws Roy out. And what does Ollie get? He gets rewarded with Hal's tolerance and Black Canary's pussy.
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>>155260587
The writer herself intended it to be ambiguous and likened it to raising an athlete. Is it moral/ethical to raise a child in such a manner if he/she grows up to be an athletic prodigy à la Wayne Gretzky? Or is there absolutely no end result what will condone such treatment of a child? Don't get me wrong, I hate the episode for all the raceslop, but I'm very much a fan of the ethical dilemma posed here.
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>>155260724
A black woman suddenly trying to sell a palm sized, already cut diamond is going to get arrested, not anything near full price.
She probably got scammed hard.
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>>155260317
I don't give a fuck about what the writer said, the parents are clear nutjobs and they're shown as such.
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>>155260804
The interview she gave says otherwise. That feels more like huge coping coming from you.
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>>155260804
I don't think there is an ethical dilemma. Why do you need to ruin your son's life, so he can be a super hero, of all things?
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>>155260804
>I hate the episode for all the raceslop
Why bother hating something you've never watched and never will watch?

>>155260831
>The interview she gave says otherwise.
lmao, rent-free
20 years from now we're going to have contests getting lonely, racist chuds to stroke out
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>>155260831
>The interview she gave says otherwise
It literally doesn't. She gave the example of Serena Williams in the episode 3 podcast.
>>155260837
Of course there's a dilemma. Is his life ruined? Is it worth enduring suffering for a little over a decade for a lifetime of immense power and benevolence done for the universe?
>>155260848
Get lost schizo
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>>155258785
At what point was Hal racist though
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>>155260894
>Is it worth enduring suffering for a little over a decade for a lifetime of immense power and benevolence done for the universe?
It's an incredible burden.
You don't need to be a super hero. A part of the standard super hero myth is the gift always goes to a worthy person who will sacrifice in the name of justice, but it's not like it necessarily enriches their lives or makes them happy.

Wasn't trying to be a superhero what the villain in the Incredibles did? You're trying to take something, for egotistical reasons, when it's not really a thing to be taken. You either have it or you don't.
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>>155258785
Still can't believe how racist they made him by being born white and brave.
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>>155259250
Holy fuck did she hog the crew lunch table? Why does she look twice as fat as she did in the episode?
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>>155260296
>American culture in general is pretty toxic, and has only gotten worse.
I'd sooner say it is predatory than anything else. It rewards predators, and glorifies them publicly everyday in media.
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>>155260004
Troon out some more why don't you? You've already lost the argument a hundred time at this point, why why even bother trying to maintaining you *hee* "Dignity"
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>>155259737
>>155259792
Yeah, this episode in particular has me confused at where Guy is going to fit in now.

>>155259250
>>155260804
>>155260949
Also, they almost ruined his chances. If he had been off are entirely from the beginning. He could have gotten all the way up to the test for courage, but had all the creativity worked out of him to the point where he couldn't construct anything.
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>>155259705
It's explicitly stated that Hal was chosen because he was the only one that passed their test. John's mom understood that but she still wanted the guardian to feel bad for not understanding the nuances of Earth races.
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>>155261029
And the Guardian agreed with her, so...
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>>155259792
>>155261013
What's Guy's origin in the comics? It's the only one I don't actually know about.
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>>155261013
off art*
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>>155261029
>only a black person would be scared if a giant green head appeared to them in the middle of the night
>and this is because of racism
Really though?
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>>155261053
Guy's pretty much a lantern because he's incredibly headstrong and cocky to the point of not feeling fear, right?
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>>155260092
Neither of the Guardian scenes were taking place in current year.
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>>155260471
Hiring little people to play a fictional short race is bigoted
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>>155258785
I wish I had a place to actually talk about this show instead of being full of chuds who seethe instinctively when they hear the words "white" or "black"
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>>155261042
It’s a good thing the guardians are known as retards so I can write them off as being retarded

They did create the manhunters after all

Best hope is some John arc where he realises the guardians are full of shit and stops being a lapdog
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>>155261151
>it’s unfair for the guardians to ask a black man in America if he’s afraid

This is your idea of good writing lmao
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"Everything that does not add, subtracts." -- Caroline Emilia Stephen

Say what you will about writers that have a social ax to grind. At the end of the day, the real problem is that this plot was supposed to be about alien invaders in Nebraska. This episode sucked all the energy out of the story that it was supposed to be telling. There may be some 15 seconds of useful dialog or events buried in there somewhere, but for the most part, they squandered an hour of screen time by not telling the story or improving anything.
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So the implication is Sinestro is at least vaguely aware of the guardians plans regarding John Stewart?
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>>155261198
The previews suggest that he will try to bait Hal into murdering John. If Hal responds with anything less than an immediate "fuck you" for the suggestion, the writers have truly failed to understand or respect the source material.
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>>155259250
No, dumbass, you missed basically everything regarding her speeches and their assumptions about Jordan because you know shit about green lantern.

Hal is not without fear because of white privilege and a comfortable life, but because he watched his dad die in a horrible plane crash and "once the worst thing possible has happened to you what's left to be afraid of?"

You'd think the mom saying "Some little boys aren't lucky enough to have a dad to love" might have stuck out to you.
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>>155261173
You're proving my point right here
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>>155261229
Hal will likely respond in a neutral, or even positive manner, but only as a mislead. Then they can drag the tension along for a while before revealing that Hal was only pretending to play along.
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>>155261073
really really, the show even explicitly states that Hal got the ring because Stewart was black and no one else was offered a chance
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>>155261192
>The plot is about aliens in Nebraska!
You're retarded
The plot may be about manhunters in Nebraska but the show is about Jon Stewart.
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>>155261198
So is Hal. It's open knowledge that trainees, especially from the same sector, are not a thing and interviewing is not a thing, and the ring also possesses an inherent ability to seek out a new, ostensibly worth host even if Hal should die, so it is immediately obvious what is happening when the guardians go "Hey Hal, we've elected this guy to be your """"trainee""" in case something happens to you :^)" If they wanted subtlety they would have just privately trained John or sent him off-world to train with another lantern.

That is why Hal has, the entire time, been going "fuck you, you're not getting the ring until I'm in the ground a long time from now".
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>>155261275
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Hal discover an alien at the point of death who gave him the ring or something?
Was that just the movie?
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>>155261254
You’re proving my pointerino
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>>155261303
That was just the comics origin. This is the new and improved origin story that fixes that blunder. Now it’s a case of the ring choosing whoever succeeds in lying about not being afraid, and the guardians admit they never thought of racism being an issue before they observed earth
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>>155261359
>I didn't watch the show and I'm getting endlessly rustled by a few clips I've been programed to rage over
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>>155260724
Diamonds actually have a really low resell value
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>>155258931
Where's the one where he meets the alien who says the same shit? Was that an edit or a callback either way it's hilarious.
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>>155261399
>I am getting mad at a 4chan post I was programmed to rage at because someone doesnt like something I like

Grow up lmao
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>>155261399
I did watch it. I doubt you did so it’s weird you keep defending it without explaining why any of the criticisms are wrong.

Or are you the guy who says to ignore the writers on the podcast explaining their intent?
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>>155261151
I wish I saved that comic of a retard going through every social media that is heavily moderated and would ban everyone you think is a chud only to come to 4chan of all places where I can call you a smelly dickweed.
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Fucking chudcels spreading misinformation to sabotage Gunn
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>>155260296
If American culture is so bad why do want all the immigrants and refugees here.
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>>155258785
"Blacks on Earth are super oppressed!!", she tells an alien who has probably seen worlds where entire species are reduced to furniture
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>>155261446
>why don't you believe the things the podcast told you to think?
You need to go back
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>>155261516
He’s not gonna let you suck it
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>>155260187
I switched to only giant mecha anime from before then year 2004 and the scene in Mazinger where Jun (a black girl) is growing up in Japan and trying to scrub the black out of her face made me tear up. It's from Japan in the 70s goddamn.

This shit makes me seeth though.
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>>155261493
In fairness to be a Black folk in America is to be under constant psychological attack. It’s worse than genocide really because when you die you’re at peace
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>>155260678
>Here is a diamond
>cool, can you make green lantern go on TV and tell everyone the names of the failed candidates so my husband isn't considered a nutjob anymore?
>no
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>>155259964
Meanwhile the black woman writer said it was a metaphor for a hardcore sports family lmao
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>>155261555
Is that why black on black violence is so common? They're trying to mercy kill eachother so they don't have to suffer under the patriarchal rule of the white man or whatever?
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>>155261482
wait a minute I thought chuds were pro-guns
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Green Lantern?
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>>155261482
No
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>>155261483
money.
Stupid question.
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>>155261639
more like BLACK AND WHITE LANTERN

get it because racial conflict
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So why do the blue space aliens seem to have a bias against brown humans?
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>You think it's easy getting tomorrow's newspaper today? You got a lot to learn, Junior.
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too many indians here



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