After episode 3 we should call him Hal “racist” Jordan
>>155258785Is this because you're racist?
>>155258785The point of the episode was that John's parents were WRONG and horrible people
He's been like that since the 70s anon
Counterpoint: fuck blacks, though.
>>155258931Go back
>>155258945White women.....
>>155258951I'm afraid pornhub lied to you anon.
>>155258930Cool, but have you considered that the dialogue is just dog-shit?
>>155258785Whining about white people is just beyond passé in current year
>Treated like shit because she's black>Husband had a chance to get a super powerful weapon but didn't because whites don't have to be afraid>Raised her son into an emotionless killing machine to get said weaponWhat was the next step in her plan?
>>155258958Oh that can be true too.
>>155258785you assume people are actually watching it and not reading what people say on twitter
I was hoping John accidentally killed his mom lmao
>>155258930That wasn't the point at all.The writer is a black sports mom and is telling a superhero version of how she is with her kids, because you gotta push them harder so they can be seen as equal to the mediocre whites, even though they are way better.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0BveqtOzcz0https://youtu.be/MOSsrycA4vM?si=2DGTJK8sQOdUlRgj
Really?? This fucking show in the big year of 2026 is whining about muh racism and evil whites??
>>155259250Hahahahaha so many people online think this is gonna end with John rejecting his parents for beinf crazy pieces of shit who abused him and have no idea this was meant to be seen as a good thjng
>>155259250Yes it was. The writer says in the podcast the parents go too far and they could have pushed John into any number of ways to get positive results that would have pushed John above his parent’s station. What the writer concedes is that the parent’s got the result they wanted and that it was effective.
>>155258854The schizo shill literally had to make another thread to shitpost until the bump limit againHonestly that the show is enough to engender that level of loving attention is a good enough reason to watch all three episodes, and anyone who actually watches the show realizes that all the schizos complaints are hallucinations. Its just a baffling shill for the show
>heil Hitler juniorWhat the fuck was his problem?
TWO Forbes articles for one episode? What?
>>155259392Who's Hitler Junior?
>>155259432Hitlers son, duhI think he runs the Green Lantwen Corp. hence the Manhunter genocide
>>155259402They really want that Emmy.
>>155258931What made Hard Traveling Heroes great is that it was just Ollie and Hal one-upping each other going “You’re a racist chud!” and “you’re a gay liberal!”
>>155259518>>155259518Hal could've used a bit more tact and Ollie is a retard for not noticing.
>>155259582>Hal could've used a bit more tacHe was 100% milking it for all the times Ollie called him a racist
Can we talk about the one Guardian that's clearly a transsexual and likes running around as a woman?
>John Stewart's parents are psychos who think Hal Jordon "got picked for being white", by aliens who didn't even understand the concept of race>obsessed with their son being the Green Lantern, to the point of abuse, as if being a super hero is their ticket out of the ghetto or something (they're already middle class, and had the ability to send their son to art school)If the episode wasn't supposed to make me feel that way, it failed. Anyway, I actually enjoyed it. It was an interesting character portrait of people turned absolutely psychotic because of racial resentment.
>>155258785Good episode. I skipped all scenes with negroes talking to each other, though.
Guy appeared in the trailer. How do you think John takes it when he learns you don't need to be autistic to get a ring?
>>155259250>sometimes you just have to shoot an apple off your son's head, because it's good for themthere's no way they believe that.
>>155259705The writers, at least as I see it, have a clear left-leaning view of racial hierarchy in the west, but they're also showing John's parents are utterly psychotic.
>>155258785show keeps getting worse and worse
>>155259737The mere existence of Guy must be so humiliating for John, nevermind Hal.
>>155259783Okay, but the Green Lanterns aren't the West.
>a black person exists>Anon: these niggers are calling me racist!
>>155259796Yes and that's part of what makes the parents psychotic. They've turned what would normally be regular grievances into an insane obsession directed at the wrong people. They make a point of showing the guardians don't even understand our racial terms, let alone perpetuate our racial systems.But it's not just a race thing, that's the only part people get hung up on. A huge part of it is them perceiving not getting the ring as almost ruining their family. They're operating on a massive sunk cost fallacy all because John's dad got spooked too hard
>>155259783>HBO show potraying black people as badKek bullshit. I bet that they will be validated at the end
>>155258785could always be worse
>>155259870>They've turned what would normally be regular grievances into an insane obsession directed at the wrong people. They make a point of showing the guardians don't even understand our racial terms, let alone perpetuate our racial systems.Timely and an excellent commentary on MIGA culture war bullshitIts not a mistake that the crowd being made fun of are loudly complaining about it
>>155259964I think you missed the point.
I don't have enough brain damage to understand points made by retarded /pol/ tourists who are trying to shitpost about a series they've never seen
>>155260004We were having a perfectly reasoned and civil conversation until you got here.
>>155260004>I don't have enough brain damage to understand points made by retarded /pol/ tourists who are trying to shitpost about a series they've never seen
>I'm in human form because ____>In 2026I thought we were passed this shit
>>155260092The show is so hurt by the lack of budget>all aliens appear as regular humans “just trust me I’m an alien bro, no you can’t see”>john jumps into a fucking black hole to talk to the guardian… lands in a fucking empty mall and talks to a normal woman in an officeThe CGI for using the ring I like 2 minutes worth each episodeJohn landing on mattresses in the mall was so funny. They really couldn’t just have some weird void Space using green screen. Say he’s on Oa? You don’t need to show him the whole planet just a fucking weird alien room
>>155258931>Defends the planet, defends the galaxy>BUT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY?I understand now why so many have flocked to anime and manga.
>>155260152They could have avoided this by simply not adapting one of the least grounded superhero mythos as a limited budget TV show. There are plenty of other dc heroes this story and budget would have been a better fit with.
>>155260187>This single comic from 50 years ago is why manga is winning!
>>155260262American culture in general is pretty toxic, and has only gotten worse.The way people take glee in stoking racial resentment even when it's entirely unwarranted, is enough to make anyone with sense desperate to get away from it all.
how did the right lose the culture war?
>>155259705>>155259772>>155259783>>155259870>>155259964The actual writer of the episode goes into detail.You're going to love this fir different reasons.Lol.https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/tv-shows/lanterns-episode-3-john-stewart-origin-changes-explained/
>>155260317tldr
>>155260326>>155260317Yeah, resume this shit.
>>155260187That's an extremely common reaction to people in power though. Hell, it's the basis upon people vote to this very day. There are lots of reasons manga is overtaking comics, but a person being written as a normal person isn't one of them
>>155260297Obsessed lmao
>>155260152They didn't even need CGI that's what makes it so frustrating. Just get a couple little people and put them in prosthetics and blue makeup. It's not hard.
>>155260004>>155259964idiot
They really made the guardians into giants because if they had them be tiny then they’d be accused of midgetface
>>155260317Where is that shill that was saying the show was trying to portray the parents as problematic, and Hal as also heroic? Kek. Where are you, you goddamn Babel Fish shill?
>>155259250Nigga they played ominous music every time they did something insane to John so retards like you wouldn’t misinterpret their actions as justified. They were crazy and were treated like so. The show even shows how John parents aren’t the typical black couple struggling financially or facing severe adversity. The had money and comfort but had a serious case of victim’s mentality.
>>155260587>struggling financially or facing severe adversityThey probably didn't do too bad on military pay, but the diamond offered to them was worth tens of millions of dollarshttps://wwd.com/pop-culture/culture-news/2nd-largest-diamond-in-the-world-giant-diamond-found-botswana-1236554891/
>>155260678There’s a line in the episode where they say the diamond money was almost gone by the time John was like 12. What the fuck did they spent all that money on?
>>155259518>Gee Ollie, I wonder who he bought it from.
>>155259964Are you retarded or something?
>>155260755
>>155259582Ollie very much deserved getting a boot to the face after this one because he literally abandoned Roy in the first place... and then he throws Roy out. And what does Ollie get? He gets rewarded with Hal's tolerance and Black Canary's pussy.
>>155260587The writer herself intended it to be ambiguous and likened it to raising an athlete. Is it moral/ethical to raise a child in such a manner if he/she grows up to be an athletic prodigy à la Wayne Gretzky? Or is there absolutely no end result what will condone such treatment of a child? Don't get me wrong, I hate the episode for all the raceslop, but I'm very much a fan of the ethical dilemma posed here.
>>155260724A black woman suddenly trying to sell a palm sized, already cut diamond is going to get arrested, not anything near full price. She probably got scammed hard.
>>155260317I don't give a fuck about what the writer said, the parents are clear nutjobs and they're shown as such.
>>155260804The interview she gave says otherwise. That feels more like huge coping coming from you.
>>155260804I don't think there is an ethical dilemma. Why do you need to ruin your son's life, so he can be a super hero, of all things?
>>155260804>I hate the episode for all the raceslopWhy bother hating something you've never watched and never will watch? >>155260831>The interview she gave says otherwise.lmao, rent-free20 years from now we're going to have contests getting lonely, racist chuds to stroke out
>>155260831>The interview she gave says otherwiseIt literally doesn't. She gave the example of Serena Williams in the episode 3 podcast.>>155260837Of course there's a dilemma. Is his life ruined? Is it worth enduring suffering for a little over a decade for a lifetime of immense power and benevolence done for the universe?>>155260848Get lost schizo
>>155258785At what point was Hal racist though
>>155260894>Is it worth enduring suffering for a little over a decade for a lifetime of immense power and benevolence done for the universe?It's an incredible burden.You don't need to be a super hero. A part of the standard super hero myth is the gift always goes to a worthy person who will sacrifice in the name of justice, but it's not like it necessarily enriches their lives or makes them happy.Wasn't trying to be a superhero what the villain in the Incredibles did? You're trying to take something, for egotistical reasons, when it's not really a thing to be taken. You either have it or you don't.
>>155258785Still can't believe how racist they made him by being born white and brave.
>>155259250Holy fuck did she hog the crew lunch table? Why does she look twice as fat as she did in the episode?
>>155260296>American culture in general is pretty toxic, and has only gotten worse.I'd sooner say it is predatory than anything else. It rewards predators, and glorifies them publicly everyday in media.
>>155260004Troon out some more why don't you? You've already lost the argument a hundred time at this point, why why even bother trying to maintaining you *hee* "Dignity"
>>155259737>>155259792Yeah, this episode in particular has me confused at where Guy is going to fit in now.>>155259250>>155260804>>155260949Also, they almost ruined his chances. If he had been off are entirely from the beginning. He could have gotten all the way up to the test for courage, but had all the creativity worked out of him to the point where he couldn't construct anything.
>>155259705It's explicitly stated that Hal was chosen because he was the only one that passed their test. John's mom understood that but she still wanted the guardian to feel bad for not understanding the nuances of Earth races.
>>155261029And the Guardian agreed with her, so...
>>155259792>>155261013What's Guy's origin in the comics? It's the only one I don't actually know about.
>>155261013off art*
>>155261029>only a black person would be scared if a giant green head appeared to them in the middle of the night>and this is because of racismReally though?
>>155261053Guy's pretty much a lantern because he's incredibly headstrong and cocky to the point of not feeling fear, right?
>>155260092Neither of the Guardian scenes were taking place in current year.
>>155260471Hiring little people to play a fictional short race is bigoted
>>155258785I wish I had a place to actually talk about this show instead of being full of chuds who seethe instinctively when they hear the words "white" or "black"
>>155261042It’s a good thing the guardians are known as retards so I can write them off as being retardedThey did create the manhunters after allBest hope is some John arc where he realises the guardians are full of shit and stops being a lapdog
>>155261151>it’s unfair for the guardians to ask a black man in America if he’s afraidThis is your idea of good writing lmao
"Everything that does not add, subtracts." -- Caroline Emilia Stephen Say what you will about writers that have a social ax to grind. At the end of the day, the real problem is that this plot was supposed to be about alien invaders in Nebraska. This episode sucked all the energy out of the story that it was supposed to be telling. There may be some 15 seconds of useful dialog or events buried in there somewhere, but for the most part, they squandered an hour of screen time by not telling the story or improving anything.
So the implication is Sinestro is at least vaguely aware of the guardians plans regarding John Stewart?
>>155261198The previews suggest that he will try to bait Hal into murdering John. If Hal responds with anything less than an immediate "fuck you" for the suggestion, the writers have truly failed to understand or respect the source material.
>>155259250No, dumbass, you missed basically everything regarding her speeches and their assumptions about Jordan because you know shit about green lantern.Hal is not without fear because of white privilege and a comfortable life, but because he watched his dad die in a horrible plane crash and "once the worst thing possible has happened to you what's left to be afraid of?"You'd think the mom saying "Some little boys aren't lucky enough to have a dad to love" might have stuck out to you.
>>155261173You're proving my point right here
>>155261229Hal will likely respond in a neutral, or even positive manner, but only as a mislead. Then they can drag the tension along for a while before revealing that Hal was only pretending to play along.
>>155261073really really, the show even explicitly states that Hal got the ring because Stewart was black and no one else was offered a chance
>>155261192>The plot is about aliens in Nebraska!You're retardedThe plot may be about manhunters in Nebraska but the show is about Jon Stewart.
>>155261198So is Hal. It's open knowledge that trainees, especially from the same sector, are not a thing and interviewing is not a thing, and the ring also possesses an inherent ability to seek out a new, ostensibly worth host even if Hal should die, so it is immediately obvious what is happening when the guardians go "Hey Hal, we've elected this guy to be your """"trainee""" in case something happens to you :^)" If they wanted subtlety they would have just privately trained John or sent him off-world to train with another lantern.That is why Hal has, the entire time, been going "fuck you, you're not getting the ring until I'm in the ground a long time from now".
>>155261275Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Hal discover an alien at the point of death who gave him the ring or something?Was that just the movie?
>>155261254You’re proving my pointerino
>>155261303That was just the comics origin. This is the new and improved origin story that fixes that blunder. Now it’s a case of the ring choosing whoever succeeds in lying about not being afraid, and the guardians admit they never thought of racism being an issue before they observed earth
>>155261359>I didn't watch the show and I'm getting endlessly rustled by a few clips I've been programed to rage over
>>155260724Diamonds actually have a really low resell value
>>155258931Where's the one where he meets the alien who says the same shit? Was that an edit or a callback either way it's hilarious.
>>155261399>I am getting mad at a 4chan post I was programmed to rage at because someone doesnt like something I likeGrow up lmao
>>155261399I did watch it. I doubt you did so it’s weird you keep defending it without explaining why any of the criticisms are wrong.Or are you the guy who says to ignore the writers on the podcast explaining their intent?
>>155261151I wish I saved that comic of a retard going through every social media that is heavily moderated and would ban everyone you think is a chud only to come to 4chan of all places where I can call you a smelly dickweed.
Fucking chudcels spreading misinformation to sabotage Gunn
>>155260296If American culture is so bad why do want all the immigrants and refugees here.
>>155258785"Blacks on Earth are super oppressed!!", she tells an alien who has probably seen worlds where entire species are reduced to furniture
>>155261446>why don't you believe the things the podcast told you to think?You need to go back
>>155261516He’s not gonna let you suck it
>>155260187I switched to only giant mecha anime from before then year 2004 and the scene in Mazinger where Jun (a black girl) is growing up in Japan and trying to scrub the black out of her face made me tear up. It's from Japan in the 70s goddamn.This shit makes me seeth though.
>>155261493In fairness to be a Black folk in America is to be under constant psychological attack. It’s worse than genocide really because when you die you’re at peace
>>155260678>Here is a diamond>cool, can you make green lantern go on TV and tell everyone the names of the failed candidates so my husband isn't considered a nutjob anymore?>no
>>155259964Meanwhile the black woman writer said it was a metaphor for a hardcore sports family lmao
>>155261555Is that why black on black violence is so common? They're trying to mercy kill eachother so they don't have to suffer under the patriarchal rule of the white man or whatever?
>>155261482wait a minute I thought chuds were pro-guns
Green Lantern?
>>155261482No
>>155261483money.Stupid question.
>>155261639more like BLACK AND WHITE LANTERN get it because racial conflict
So why do the blue space aliens seem to have a bias against brown humans?
>You think it's easy getting tomorrow's newspaper today? You got a lot to learn, Junior.
too many indians here