>>155287120
Pussy just out

>>155287120
i find it interesting that adam and lute's wing stripes are inverts of each other. adam has a stripe on the very bottom edge of his wing, a gap, then his second stripe, while lute has a gap along the bottom, them a stripe, then another gap and her second stripe.

almost as if they slot together perfectly.

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It don't matter, none a this matters...

>>155287120
absoLUTEly

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>>155287247

>>155287130
Oh wait...

'Vagina' comes from the Latin term that means 'sword sheath' or scabbard. She's the *original* scabbard, so how fitting it is that she now always wields a sword.

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>>155287120
>I'm here to finish what I started.
Giving Adam more kids?

>>155287355
Probably. She needs to cook up another batch.

>>155287236
How many exorcists could Carl seduce?

why do vivziecels refuse to talk about her animations in public

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>>155287554
All of them, including Vaggie

So if Lute was Eve all along, would that mean she fucked Lucifer? And that she’s Abel’s mother?

>>155287390
Considering how we all turned out it’d be nice to see them keep trying.

>>155288052
My theory is that Lute is a fragment of Eve's soul created by Lilith as part of her and Adam's deal. The other fragment was used to create Charlie for Lucifer and Lilith. Charlie's composed of the "positive" aspects of Eve's personality, she loves the sinners cause she unknowingly views them as her children to the point she glosses over their flaws. Lute is the "negative" in that she can only see their flaws and ignores the fact that they spawned from her.

>>155287355
>>155287390

It’d be horrific to imagine what they’d look like;

> Their mother is a sinner-turned-artificial angel-likely-turned-fallen angel.
>Their father is a reanimated archangel.

>>155288147
Problem: Charlie is 200 years old. She predates that deal by 193 years, bruh.

Also, what the hell happened to Eve’s soul in the first place there?!

>>155287192
I’ll need to see someone make this to see how well they line up. Visual learner here.

>>155288147
Why are people obsessed with making this theory more complicated than it needs to be. No, she's not a fucking fragment or a shard. This isn't Kingdom Hearts. She's just Eve. Holy shit.

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>>155288175
I don't know, I never actually watched Hazbin or Helluva. I watched Angel Gabby.

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Picking up on how the theory ties into Sera and Lute/Eve’s relationship. If they truly did have that mother-daughter relationship, it would make Sera’s fears over Emily in S1 all the sadder.

She’d already seen the one she considered a daughter Fall. She’d lost someone she cared so much about. She couldn’t bear to see the same happen to her sister.

>>155288453
Sera's voice actor has said that for her, the relationship is more mother daughter than sisters. This would explain why we see the shot of Lute clenching her fist when Sera tells Emily that she trusts her.

>>155288453
Nah, Lucifer is the the obvious parallel here. She even references him when voicing her fear for Emily.

>>155288825
Eh, it can be more than one thing.

>>155288825
There's only a few parallels, at best, and it's more so with the traditional Lucifer figure, not the one we have in the show. Saying that there is a specific parallel with them too is kind of stretching it.

>>155288871
I disagree that it's stretching whatsoever, feels extremely on the nose, but sure.

>>155288910
It really is not on the nose.

>>155288825
>Lucifer is the the obvious parallel here
I want whatever this guy's smoking.

I don't agree with a lot of things theorists say, but man looking around it feels like only Lute and Adam fans and RA shippers are really attempting to discuss and theorize about the future of the show. Everyone else just goes "nuh uh" at theories without even trying to lay down their own.

At least theories I disagree with can be fun to read. The "I want these two characters to interact and will be mad if those two characters interact instead or that theory is real" type posting with zero attempt to think about how what they want would work in the framework of the show or with tidbits we know is so boring.

>>155288975
Examples

>>155288166
Funny enough they might not even look that horrific. Like they could have vaguely demonic looking forms but be capable of tuning it back to look more like a generic simple human.

>>155288990
Lute does anything

>>155290620
I'm not following.

>>155288975
Lute and Adam fans and RA shippers are the only ones who are optimistic enough about the future of the show to theorize about it. Radiostatic fujos know the show won't go their way. People who're ultra invested in the pilot versions of characters and are bitter about the Amazon show won't care. Chances of more Lute and Adam stuff happening and RA happening are high so those people want to talk about it.

>>155290620
Lute is a theorists dream because she's such a wildcard and they've confirmed she's going to keep being relevant all the way into season 5

>>155291267
>People who're ultra invested in the pilot versions of characters and are bitter about the Amazon show won't care.

The perks of your favourite characters being a later addition to the show after being picked up by Amazon.

The symbiotic relationship between 4chan guitarspear schizos and Twitter radioapple schizos is a marvel and should be studied. I think they must be the rhinos and we're the little bug eating birds

If Radioapple is endgame that could mean Lilith gets the obligatory 'I don't need no man' story and Lute/Eve is free to express her primal cock lust

>>155291536
It's probably a byproduct of neither really stepping on eachothers toes. Like for the average GuitarSpear Schizos RA happening doesn't really affect them. Same for Radioapple.

>>155291586
Exactly. Honestly it's better if Lilith ends up confirmed with a "I don't need no man" ending because it's removes her from the equation for both RA and GS.

>>155291588
The big name Radioapple with the big schizo document has made posts calling people delusional if they don't think Guitarspear will be endgame, even.

>>155291603
He might have done that to dunk on Adamsapple fans though(still based).

I'll be honest, I think Radioapple is slop but I'll root for it because it's convenient to me and some of the retarded fan content is fucking hilarious. Plus I don't like the arrogant way Adamsapple and RS fans dunk on it.

>>155291649
I'm not really rooting for it honestly, but it's kind of a given that it's endgame? I think? Idrc one way or the other.

>>155291603
The person also believes Rosie/Lilith/Eve twin theory though. They say it's "obvious". Also that doc is a fucking mess. I don't know what they're rambling about half of the time.

>>155291649
>Plus I don't like the arrogant way Adamsapple and RS fans dunk on it.

I'd be fine if the dunking came from a place of "my ship is more likely to be the endgame and is so quality compared to this slop" except it's not that. Their dunking and hate towards it comes from a place of insecurity. I don't care for RA. That's my verdict for it. I doesn't stir anything in me. I still understand despite all that RA (at least Lucifer interacting a lot with Al) is a guarantee.

>>155291727
I never understood why so many RA fans believe Lilith/Eve/Rosie twin theory. Like it's better for their ship that Lilith being a bitch is just Lilith not some other woman pretending to be her. Is it like that because that's the theory that got most popularized between their circle (Chai leaks have been a disaster for the Hazbin speculation fandom.)? Lute being Eve is an even better theory for RA because it puts all the shitty stuff they want Lilith to be doing on Lilith but also removes Eve and Adam from the RA equation. It looks even better for Alastor and Lucifer to get together if Lilith's the only woman he's been with.

>>155291852
They haven't figured it out yet. I don't foresee RA shippers having any issues with Lute being Eve if it does turn out to be true. I think they'll barely give a fuck.

>>155291852
>>155291968
I don't know why people think Lilith isn't a shitty mom? It's already been confirmed. And yeah, it would be better for their ship. But I think radioapple is seen as so in your face canon, and they take the Chai leaks as canon as well, for some reason, so I guess they just go hand in hand

>>155291968
If Lute=Eve is real and there's backlash I actually see RA shippers as some of the most likely to go to bat for Viv and Lute!Eve

>>155291852
The RA mega document and the twin theory document are two separate documents from the same person. The RA document acknowledges twin theory might not be correct and Lilith and Lucifer's relationship might end in other ways but states that RA will happen regardless of twin theory.

>>155292050
I understand that but I'm still wondering why twin theory is so popular amongst RA fans.

>>155288453
https://youtu.be/7MzPX9ogZnU?is=auixND6r70f8FGsL

Perfect score for Sera vs Lute/Eve in the run up to the S4 finale.

I want to see Abel and his father's murderer, Niffty, interact.

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>>155292675
>Do you really?!

>>155292675
Would Abel even recognize her?

>>155292779
Everybody in Hell knows Niffty killed Adam and Heaven is implied to likely know this as well so good chance Abel can recognize her.

If I—anon—improved the quality of life in Hell, would Charlie try to stop me because no one wants to use her hotel anymore?

>>155292681
Yes, I think it would be an interesting and fun interaction.

>>155292844
No, Charlie wants what's best for her people. The one you should worry about is Roo/Evil. I don't think she'd take kindly to having her realm ruined by a goody two-shoes.

>>155292844
She wouldn't try to stop you but she'd be unhappy by the lack of hotel guests because she's a bit of a hypocrite.

>>155292844
She wouldn't do anything to you, but she wouldn't save you either.

>Charlie: (gasp) Oh no! Anon is about to get crushed and there's nothing we can do!
>Charlie: Oh well... I guess everyone will have to go back to the hotel now.

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>>155292875
>::Ascends to heaven::
>"Oh you have to be frickin kidding me!"

>>155293319
Fitting

>>155291786
People will insist it's delusional and then turn around and post multiple times about how Vivziepop doing it would ruin the show and get riled at every little hint about it. Things nobody does for theories they genuinely think are delusional and impossible. I don't know who they think they're fooling. Just say you hate the idea of it and think it won't be done well and move it along. Highest chance is they'll be right about that and it beats the cope angle.

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We need a sequel to this picture once we get Lute/Eve's Eden design.

>>155294833
Adam wasn't huge in Eden so it kind of defeats the point. Unless it's modern Adam but nude...

I tuned in for Jessica's print signing this morning. Said a few funny little things: Lute needs therapy. Duh. Britney Spears "Lucky" is a good song that fits Lute. Oh, and she's " relatable in ways that we don't know".

>>155295100
Nah. It's also works with non chonker Eden Adam. Mostly for comparison purposes. The more things change the more they stay the same.

>>155295300
>"relatable in ways that we don't know"

Wow. She's really sprinkling stuff. Too bad the fandom is too busy larping Lute (or Adam sometimes) to actually notice.

>>155295300
The other thing I wanted to add: no, the song was not suggested, the question was just if she were to enjoy Britney Spears. Jessica brought up the song. Very interesting to think about because lucky is about a girl who seemingly has everything she could ever want, but she still feels lonely on the inside. That doesn't really seem to apply to Lute.

....Eve, on the other hand... When she was looking sad in the tree. Maybe she really was miserable in Eden and did genuinely want free will?

>>155295352
>Maybe she really was miserable in Eden and did genuinely want free will?

Not sure about the free will stuff but she definitely started regretting it after getting kicked out.

>>155288052
>Lute is Eve
Holy shit what have I been missing

>>155295300
i think the most pertinent line for lute would be:

Lost in an image, in a dream
But there's no one there to wake her up
And the world is spinning, and she keeps on winning
But tell me what happens when it stops?

with the 'it stops' being the dream of living eternally with adam getting shattered at his death.

>>155295519
Indeed. Her voice actor spoiled it on twitter. She has gone on record to say that Lute isn't who we think she is.

Come on people. This shit happened 2 years ago. It's only now starting to surface because a few schizos have dug up everything that's been said about her. It's very obvious they've been hiding something with Lute

>>155295521
She actually sang the chorus.

So if Eve had no free will and Adam did how would that get passed onto their children? Would some people have free will and others not or would only women not have free will. How would that look like?

>>155295573
That's not... That's not how that works. It's not a genetic thing dude. Also Adam having free will is just speculation. That's my personal theory but looking at the show as it is, looks like neither Adam or Lilith had free will.

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>>155295519
Listen one of the regulars is dropping a master document with all the compiled evidence soon. It's a lot.

>>155295573
presumably as per every adam and eve story ever (as we have no reason to assume viv will deviate from that detail) eve gives adam the apple. alternatively he was built with free will already within - as was lilith, hence her ability to flee and fall for lucifer - and that happened to be withheld during eve's creation to try and avoid another lilith situation.

a no-free-will adam loses a lot of what makes him a fun asshole desu, so i hope he did eat it. like he instantly pivots from 'loveable asshole' to faceless automaton running 'designated adam personality dot exe'.

If Lute wasn't Eve then it would be very weird that she never once angsts over feeling jealous of Eve during her 'does he love me?' pity party.

>>155295636
Eve covered in her period blood.

>>155295697
Gee Grandma, thanks for giving us all your special curse!

>>155295300
The fuck does "relatable in ways we don't know yet" even fucking mean. God damn it Jessica, just spill the beans (again) woman!

>>155295826
relatable in craving adam's fat titties

>>155292675
>So where did you bury my dad?
>Bury?
>*Cut to Adam's rotting body still outside the hotel*

>>155296035
He shat himself post mortem and now the maggots and Nifty's rats are eating him

>>155296067
Lute is still not going to fuck you Vaggie

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>>155295948
Mmmmmmmmmmm

>>155296320
i wanna pinch his cheeks top AND bottom.

>>155295692
Yup. People have tried using the description of her Youtooz figurine to imply that but it actually comes off more as insecurities towards Lilith. Which makes sense if she's Eve.

>>155296067
Still more fuckable than you Vaggie.

The show implies that Angel killed his father in self-defense which would be a wild reason to end up in Hell.

>>155296592
Adding to this in case you haven't seen it: when asked what Hazbin song would apply to Lute (or, the question might have been what song would you like to see your character sing, something along those lines,) she said "I'm a Loser", as that is her inner monologue and would say it to herself in a moment of vulnerability, "just to so she has a bit of heart". She has also said that Lute tries really hard to do a good job, but it comes across as a misunderstood way.

Yeah, she's absolutely insecure. At the very least, that's what Jessica has apparently been told. Gee. I wonder why.

>>155296067
>shot pans outwards and Niffty is eating him too besides the rats

>>155295826
one interpretation would be relatable in the sense of literal relative, first woman and all

Hey guys... I kind of made an oopsie. I was assured that the stream was going to be recorded. So I didn't even try to record it myself. Well turns out, the person wasn't able to.... And I won't be able to transcribe it. We're both hoping that their friend was able to record it, so unless someone else happened to, and they uploaded on YouTube, I can't include that in the doc. Not in its entirety.

Aren't I so smart? (Kill me)

>>155296798
To err is human, Looty. Don’t worry about it.

>>155296688
Niffty's teeth seemed to be glowing in near the end of Episode 8 so this is canon.

>>155292875
This but he's crushed under a thick sinners ass.

Speaking of sinners. I would fuck Emberlynn so hard her dead ovaries spark back to life so that sperm can fuck-conceive an egg into her womb

>>155296970
Wholesome I guess?

some adam RP account on twitter's crashing out because they don't want to RP guitarspear anymore and see it as sibling-like (lol ok). take a wild guess as to their preferred adam ship. adamsapple. somehow always adamsapple.

>>155297519
Quick, someone call Hot Topic!

>>155296616
Maybe it's like smiling friends where even saying a swear can get you sent to hell

>You are the latest sinner to the Hotel.
What does your sinner form look like

>>155297607
Literal Rat Man (like a skaven from Warhammer).

>>155297519
>>155297552
Why are Adamsapple fans so fucking insane? Like how does such a mediocre ship inspire such obsessed fans?

>>155297940
What's Warhammer.

>>155297973
Warhammer fantasy

>>155297965
rarepair underdog/hipster syndrome plus adam fan persecution complex ('why isn't the entire show about fixing our guy who was actually the victim all along?' variant), expect it to get worse when we get eden era flashbacks before it gets better.

all adamsapple has going for it is consistent easy access to bottom adam porn and mpreg and that is all.

>>155298493
>adam fan persecution complex('why isn't the entire show about fixing our guy who was actually the victim all along?' variant)

Idk about that. Usually they have Adam be in the wrong while Lucifer is in the right and basically has to "fix" Adam. Usually said stuff treats Eve and Lilith as irrelevant afterthoughts.

>expect it to get worse when we get eden era flashbacks before it gets better.

Pretty sure the Lute is Eve reveal will kill the Adamsapple fags and no amount of Eden flashback will save them. Funny enough Adam might not end up interacting with Lucifer at all during Eden.

>>155298619
nah most fics i've read either don't reckon with the exterminations much at all (citing vaggi not having that aspect explored much either to justify it typically) or soften up his misogyny if they even acknowledge it, and i've seen both eve and lilith turned into RA-worthy evil fujo women far too many times.

please save us lute=eve reveal

>>155298680
>eve and lilith turned into RA-worthy evil fujo women far too many times

Any stories where they team up to torment the homos? Like genuinely curious if they ever get this level of silly.

>>155298779
They're in an evil band together in that one series of AI Radioapple youtube videos.

>>155298856
Bruh. What's next? Do they imply they molested homo Adam and Lucifer?

>>155298944
Adam's straight in those 'videos' but they both molested Lucifer.

>>155298984
Wtf? Why?

>>155299007
Adamsapple like the gay prison rape trope, where Lucifer rapes Adam. I've seen some do the opposite though.

>>155298779
not in unison but this one (the one that turned me off adamsapple completely outside of pure porn fics) has both lilith and eve being absolute assholes towards poor widdle adam and lucifer. then the author has eve like, disappear into the ether or something when she dies. i think sera's evil for the first half too but then the author changed their mind and started softening her up around s2 airing?

with that said i can praise it for including and not villainising lute, miraculously.

works/55231171/chapters/140092372

>>155299066
Adam raping Lucifer? Never saw that.

>>155299007
Extreme slop warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtP6K52eW24

>>155299085
I'm sorry I can't. I can handle Hazbin without any issues but this AI slop makes me cringe too hard.

>>155299077
Yep, I've seen a couple. Granted, definitely not as much as Lucifer doing the raping. Weird thing is, though I don't care for this ship or the trope, I can see Adam being that kind of person. But not with his dick, he probably stick a broom or some shit up Lucifer's ass, just to torture the fella.

>>155299104
I mean it does seem pretty in line with Lucifer pooners likes. Like you have Lucifer acting feminine or dressing girly and then you have Adam fucking him or some shit (I don't really understand it).

>>155299104
i wasn't a fan of the concept but the amount of people who genuinely thought adam raped charlie somehow during their fight in s1 blows my mind.

>>155299104
it's a weirdly popular trope in the RA fandom - or at least it was in the time period i was actively engaging with RA - for adam to rape alastor during their fight and then lucifer ~picks up alastor's shattered pieces~ or whatever.

sidenote when i discovered this during my brief foray into adam/alastor content i also discovered a fic where sinner adam took care of alastor's wounds after their fight and then scolded the hotel crew for not making sure alastor was okay after their fight and letting him feel unwanted and abandoned, which was so funny that it became my favourite adam/alastor fic.

>>155299163
>the amount of people who genuinely thought adam raped charlie somehow during their fight in s1 blows my mind.
Whaaaaaaaaaaat

>>155299169
Was the choking somehow interpreted as sex choking?

>>155299169
i know it's so dumb

>>155299219
i assume so which is especially weird since if you want dark guitarprincess porn having charlie agree to do 'anything' to get adam to consider her plan in episode 1 is a much less time-limited setting and takes place in private with lute for the assist.

>>155296798
Guys, it's such a stupid thing to be upset over, but I'm actually upset... I feel so fucking stupid. I even considered recording it for myself, but I didn't... Now who the fuck is going actually to believe it when I say Jessica said "Lucky" by Britney Spears fits Lute. Fml

>>155299474
We'll believe you, Looty

>>155298619
>Usually they have Adam be in the wrong while Lucifer is in the right and basically has to "fix" Adam.
The Adam correction element in Adamsapple usually only applies to porn because most of them want Lucifer to mean dom and rough top him. Otherwise it's all about Adam's feelings and how he was done wrong by Lucifer, Lilith, Sera, Eve, Hell itself, anyone and everyone.

>>155299562
Thanks senpai.

Radioapple is a straight girl fujo ship, Radiostatic is a lesbian fujo ship, Adamsapple is a pooner fujo ship

>>155299703
where do guitarprincess, charlastor and serapherd land as het ships?

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I CAN'T STOP JERKING OFF TO CHARLIE

>>155299888
Serapherd is for girls, charlastor is for girls (mentally ill), and Guitarprincess is for guys

>>155299282
>>155299888
Why are you a dot now Milky

>>155300048
huh. why AM i a dot? begone dot.

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>>155300152
Destroyded

>>155288147
My personal theory, Eve is Charlie biological mother.
Here the twist, Lilith cant have children, this is in part something of her own wish, lilith rejection of be submisse to anyone is so strong that this created a block on her biology making her womb reject whatever seed there.
At first Lucifer was ok with that but in time his desire for fatherhood was so strong that he begged lilith for children who manage to find Eve and ask her to have the child

A thought: if the whole Eden family is a genre of rock, what if Cain, as a farmer and likely now a lonely wanderer on earth, is country?

https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI?is=BsuwsL8FSp806vqW

>>155300277
We don't know if he's wandering on Earth

>>155288147
>>155300248
No

>>155300248
I remember something like this grabbing my attention before. Lilith's a sinner, the first in fact. She + darkness = sit in your hole and don't make trouble. So there had to be another set of ovaries somewhere in the discussion.

Combined with the nigh-certainly abandoned hints that Vaggie was human once, and Lute being a very old human soul turned into one of the Exorcists isn't particularly crazy. They're apparently a fairly recent phenomenon after all. Adam being in sync with her but never seeing her as a woman and not another frat boy isn't too odd in that light, it's a reincarnation plot.

More than reasonable, there's relevance to it. Charlie is a damned mini-me of Lilith and can't handle not being 'like her'. Throw a monkey wrench into that whole dynamic with Lilith just being the stepmom and groomer accusations start flying.

It lends more teeth to the inevitable mother-daughter rock-off or rap battle or what-have-you. Even if it has little to do with Lute herself, that kind of fits, doesn't it? Always supporting some other character's arc. Built to serve, that one.

>>155301011
>They're apparently a fairly recent phenomenon after all.
They're not. The *Exterminations* are. That doesn't mean the soldiers are only 7 years old. Also the patreon it was confirmed that The Exorcists are in fact Heavens one and only army, meaning they've been around for several millennia. In the show, the soldiers are not a secret.

>>155301011
Also, it was confirmed that the Exorcists, save for Lute since her background is classified per the play bill, are heaven born. The concept of them being former human souls AKA winners drafted into Heaven's Army was a discarded plot element from the pitch Bible.

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>>155300277
I'm imagine him either as a duster wagering vagabond or just Nathan Explosion

>>155301221
Oh my God that would be so fucking awesome.

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>>155301292
>Cain when he hears about the Exterminations

>>155301845
>Cain is plapping Sinner and Angel alike.

>>155300248
Lilith making a deal with Eve to make Charlie possible is the basis of a whole other theory. Whether that will be true remains to be seen, but regardless I'd bet cash money that it'll be true that Lilith is infertile and Charlie was created through other means that involve Roo/evil essence. It adds to her character tension, Erika already hinted it, and it explains why Lilith and Lucifer didn't have a kid long ago.

>>155301936
It won't be. Jessica already confirmed Lute is Eve. Evil/Roo is Charlie's mother. This was given by a former employee who worked on the pilot specifically. It has nothing to do with Eve.

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background designs are always nice

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I love how enthusiastic Lute gets in Hell is Forever. She really does think he's the coolest thing ever. Wish we could see some of these shots without the mask cause I bet she's cute. Love that bit where she twirls around like a Sky Dancer too

>>155296798
Well, it's not the full stream, but someone managed to upload a clip of it on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goldziwe/video/7681351486001106209

Lute is a (secret) Britney Spears fan confirmed

>>155304697
Nice. My main exposure to Britney Spears was my older sister listening to her when I was a young child.