The Marvel Comic run continues, beginning with the Death of Optimus Prime.Transform and roll out.Previous storytimes:>>155228917>>155268570
>>155296598Did they ever explain why Transformers the comic stayed in present day and yet still killed off Optimus and Megatron?
>>155296640...why would that need an explanation?
>>155296670They've created the combaticons? I feel like some issues are missing.
>>155296839nope, they just show up for the first time in this issue
Now let's go back and see what the Joes are doing (we started the crossover event last thread).
Back to the main story.
>>155296768>Hot spot has more mass than OP>Is smaller than him in robo mode.
>>155296640Megatron and Optimus Prime was mandated across the board when the movie came out. As for Budinsky being allowed to continue the present day status quo? Supposedly Budinsky hated the movie cast and Hasbro let it slide that the book wouldn't synergize with the cartoon outside of Prime and Mega deaths and really didn't push him to use the movie cast until the Targetmaster versions of them happened.
>>155296836Kek, this is hilarious.
Anons, it's time to level with you, I only have the first two volumes of the IDW reprint, covering the first 25 issues of The Transformers. Everything posted from here on will be the original printing, meaning the quality is lower but at least there won't be any funky recolors.
>>155297631Kino page.
Last panel hits a little harder now.
Now let's finish that G.I. Joe sidestory.
This will be the last diversion from the main comic until we get to Headmasters.
Game over.
>>155299266I had this toy as a kid.
>>155299707Plastic man don't have to take that.
That's enough comics for one day. Tune in next thread for more of The Transformers.
>>155296906>>155296920This part always made me wonder - why would the human go along with it? OP may be such a goody-two-shoes that he demands to be killed because he stomped some koopas, but what's to stop Ethan from blowing up Megatron and going "teehee, looks like I pressed the wrong button by mistake"?>>155296935>Prime's consciousness fits on a single floppy
>>155296839Combaticons and Protectorbots never got origins in the US comic. Which is kind of fitting as even though the Combaticons got a big origin story in season two, the cartoon just that the Protectorbots show up already active on Earth and never showed how they came to be.
>>155298334Wait a sec... Mainframe's blonde?
>>155301449Possibly Optimus was just tired of never ending war and looking for a convenient excuse to scrap himself.
>>155299031Damn that's hardcore
>>155297388>>155297399>>155297413I love the "Villain becomes distraught after the death of the hero because now their life has no purpose" trope, good to see it here.
>>155299060And after another few issues away, the Return of the Dinobots.
>>155297655>>155297673If Megatron figured out that Optimus' memories survived on a disk, why wouldn't he just track down the human who did it and kill him?
>>155299280>Wipe-Out was a comic-only character whose appearance is based not on Tailgate's character model, but his toy—his design features chest details from the toy that the character model does not. Artist Don Perlin was given toys from Hasbro, since many of the Transformers' character models lacked art of their backs.[3] Presumably, a gifted Tailgate toy was part of how this made-up little dude was born. Tailgate himself never showed up in the US Marvel comics, save for his Transformers Universe bio entry. Full-Tilt and Brunt, the Trypticon toy's actual little helper guys, were only depicted as their integrated-into-Trypticon forms.
>>155304723The original Tailgate toy was a retool of the Windcharger toy. Much later, a Windcharger revisit toy was recoloured into a Wipe-Out toy.
>>155304747Then, when Trypticon got a new modern toy, Full-Tilt became a headmaster, with his head robot designed after Wipe-Out.
>>155298511>Some of the most advanced technology he ever seen>Means nothing to me
>>155298552...so he's not gonna arrest her, for working with terrorists? Damn, America was different before 9/11.
>>155299031>Could have shoot Duke>Shoots some lady who doesn't even know that much
>>155301449Yeah, the whole issue is pretty stupid.
>>155298604>He still has his gloves on when he sleep
>>155298809>GoldbugAll things considered, his puberty happens really fast in the Marvel Comics.
>>155299138Its interesting how Grimlock is basically the Autobots' equivalent of Starscream in this continuity.
>>155301375based blaster
>>155300202This lil dude is leading robots that are three time his size.Based.
>>155296598Cool
>>155296670>give the Decepticons a taste of their own lubricantsuch LANGUAGE
>>155304988He was until Furman came along and the book started sucking him off while subjecting Ratchet to a fate worse than death to give his main character slot to the faggot Kup, who suddenly stole Ratchet's position as Optimus's BFF
>>155304988Worse, he gets away with everything evil he does and dies an entirely random death in the Under base saga
>>155303696Editorial demanded they be irrevocably killed ASAP and it's a miracle that Budinsky knew this was a retarded idea and got away with setting up shit like the floppy disk and Megatron's body never being found to bring them back
So...why did Grimlock OD on stupid pills between issues? In #27 he talks normally and learns a lesson in leadership. In #28 he's getting fitted for crowns and already sliding into "Me Grimlock" mode. Also big shout-out to the Autobots for just accepting a psychotic leader no questions asked.
>>155307265Is Transformers the one comic where editorial was happy to kill off their own main characters instead of insisting they stay alive and active forever even when it doesn't make sense?
>>155308109Turns out Grimlock was right, being the strongest really is the only requirement for leadership.
>>155308116Optimus Prime came back like, three times
>>155296906>>155296920>Kill me, ZachOnce OP is done I'll dig up the Mosaic that goes with this
>>155298809ENTER
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>>155296598thanks for these op
>>155297639met him in person and I tried to say to him, I liked how despite the show being over, I could continue with the comics. My wording wasn't as well thought out, so he took immediate offense. I felt really, really bad because he interpreted what I sad to be, them being a direct continuation of the canon. I didn't mean that but he seemed fine to talk about the writing.Ralph Macchio was there too. A lot more laid back about the show and comics. But that hate was physical and very present with Bob.
>>155296768https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujlTOUfpZI
Loved this series as a kid.In retrospect the Bob Budiansky stories aged better than Simon Furmans. He even did the "epic" fights better; Furman had the Unicron issue but Starscream massacring everyone felt so much more serious. Maybe because with Unicron everyone went into a blaze of glory, thinking they'll all die anyway.and of course Furman just kept re-using his scripting over and over later, so his books read like crap now.
>>155311428It's the tone of voice as well. Bob writes moreso like he's writing a novel while Simon writes like a mid-level comic writer.I like re-reading issues of Marvel but despise re-reading IDW. At least, the ones I could finish.
OP here, how do people feel about the pacing of these storytimes? There's a lot of comics to get through (we're not even halfway done with the Marvel run) so I've posting up to near image limit each time, but would anyone prefer it if only 100 pages (or so) were posted each day? Would that encourage more discussion or not make a difference?
>>155312254I think what you do is fine. There is no rush and too many issues in 1 thread would mean 404 before anyone could read it because of image cap or being too full for anything to talk about.Kids are back in school so board is not so active as to die if no one posts within 5 minutes
>>155311624It's not just that, but every issue works perfectly fine on it's own as well. With IDW you had every issue being a part of a story that is part of a crossover that is part of an event, you can't just follow a book and know what is going on, you have to follow 8 different series PLUS be aware of whatever the fuck Hasbro is doing. It's intolerable. Even when I re-read the ongoings, it feels like I'm missing 90% of the story. Only the trades are readable.
>>155312409>There is no rush and too many issues in 1 thread would mean 404 before anyone could read it because of image cap or being too full for anything to talk about.Well that's why I brought it up. We're going through like 10-12 issues per thread, but would a slower pace of 5-6 issues work better? It doesn't really matter but if I can make a better reading experience for people I'd like to. Maybe I'll try it next thread just to see.
>>155312646Good point. IDW's collection was a terrible experience.I was fine with Robots in Disguise, but then suddenly there's the Wrecker's Saga which isn't lined up with the Spotlights but then there's also MTMTE and then there's each writer having their own take. Bumblebee had a consistent character in Marvel, while he ranges from coward, fragile, competent, and worse than starscream with OP ending up sick of him.Horrendous quality writing because there were too many at the same time.
>>155313680>I was fine with Robots in Disguise, but then suddenly there's the Wrecker's Saga which isn't lined up with the Spotlights...what?The Spotlights and Wreckers stuff that happened during the RID ongoing were nowhere near each other. Are you thinking of something else?
>>155313917Possibly. The 'order' of the collection is a mess thanks to the everywhere narrative.
>>155313680MTMTE and RID made sense on their own for MOST parts, except when they had to be a part of crossovers. The one where Shockwave tries blowing up Cybertron requires reading both books plus Dark Cybertron, alternating between issues as the story goes.Then you have the one where everyone is a combiner (I suppose that one didn't need much additional reading as it was mostly RID?), then the one where you have a bajillion zombie Titans and Nemesis Prime is back and GB Blackrock is a headmaster all of a sudden (I lost the plot at that point, it was a tie in to the Hasbro Titans Return toyline), then the one where they bring together all the Hasbro toys at which point it turns into a total clusterfuck and I couldn't make sense of anything that was going on.By the time Unicron appeared, you had Unicron being a creation of the Dire Wraiths, you had Autobots and Decepticons, Cybertrons colony worlds, the EDF, GI Joe, M.A.S.K., ROM, Action Man, a bunch of gender politics (Arcee happy to find a girlfriend), so many original characters I don't give a rats ass about, and like 3 issues in he already ate Cybertron without any lead-up whatsoever. The Marvel books were leading up to Unicron for what, a year, two?
>>155315044>you had Unicron being a creation of the Dire WraithsUnicron and the Dire Wraths were both the side effects of the Antillan's detonation of their Talisman. The Dire Wraths didn't create Unicron, they were created alongside him.>a bunch of gender politicsNot really. It took up a sliver of a sliver of sliver of content.
>>155316743isn't there like an entire issue on planet of the robofurries where the two butches very slowly try to say "we're lesbians" without actually expressing anything close to sentiment
>>155317325...no?Only one issue takes place on Eukaris and the only romantic couple featured in it are Tigatron and Airazor, who are straight. I also have no idea what "two butches" you're talking about.
>>155317325bro is dreaming up IDW issues to get mad about
>>155316743>Unicron and the Dire Wraths were both the side effects of the Antillan's detonation of their Talisman. The Dire Wraths didn't create Unicron, they were created alongside him.Yeah and all of those characters except Unicron have nothing to do with Transformers. And if you didn't care for the garbage shared universe (which I did not because I read Transformers for Transformers, not ROM and Dire Wraiths), Unicron just popped up into his own mini and that was that.>Not really. It took up a sliver of a sliver of sliver of content.one, by that point Transformers were already a minority in their own books.Two, of the Transformers still in the books, it was predominantly the newly introduced OCs, many of whom were fembots. Who were, even before the shared universe garbage, not only shoehorned into every book but took the major spotlight in some and even got their own minis or appeared in crossovers that took place in early G1 storylines (Ark crash landed in a volcano story). Or they were turned into the handlers of Metroplex or the biggest baddest new combiner team and so on and on.You may argue "oh a bunch of fembots who cares" but for me who was a fan of the series since the late 80s it's the same situation as the all-female Ghostbusters movie. And the numbers don't lie either, the series was dropping in popularity so much they had to force the Unicron story and reboot everything. IDW mismanaged Transformers extremely badly and even lost the license a little while later.
>>155318106Antilla comes from the G1 cartoon, you fucking moron.>Unicron just popped up into his own mini and that was that.Which had nothing to do with crossovers. Unicron just straight-up was a not a factor in IDW until he suddenly was. This was a conscious, Transformer-exclusive division.
>>155318724decision*
>>155318106wait, do you think "gender politics" means "girls exist"? is THAT what you're getting mad about?dude, grow up.
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>>155318106>Unicron just popped up into his own mini and that was that.
