>>155363031
Built for cousin Ace

>>155363031
Irey is fucking cute as fuck. How is she not even more popular and waifu'd here?

>>155363716
Because 99% of the time she’s only in her dad’s comics. So rather than be shown as waifu, she shown more in the daughterfu role.

We need to see how she behaves away from Wally to get a good waifu handle on her.

>>155363803
Ironically this is for the best, less we forget what happens to most heroines when they get their own runs nowadays. Better she stays a cute daughterfu than becomes a cringey annoying bitch and gets aged up like they did jon. Who's a perfect example of why you should let sleeping dogs lie sometimes.

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People overlook her brother a lot, but I think he's hot too

>>155363031
Her ass isn't that nice

>>155363031
Holy sexo.

>>155363031
She's just another shitty capeshit family character with a terrible costume design. Also, stupid names.
Posting shitty cropped porn and lewds of her is not appreciation.

>>155363031
You have my attention.

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>>155364079
Really, isn't Impulse was the better young cute flash boy

>>155364895
True!

>>155364579
She’s working on it.

>>155364579
Yes it is.

>>155367344
It’s flat

Kind of off-topic but does anyone remember Barry's future kids with Jessica in that one story during Hitch's run? lmao

>>155367470
Nope.

>>155368017
Yep.

>>155365257
Nahh, Jai is much cuter than Bart

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She should by all accounts be the speedster slut.
Always on dates with middle school boys because she can’t slow down.

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>>155364079
>>155365257
Jai is the designated shota of the family

>>155367576
yes, didn't two of them somehow inheret green lantern powers?

>>155363062
>>155363075
>>155363110
You could have just used a catbox you know

>>155363043
can I get the artist?

>>155363031
Cute

>>155368322
ulgy as sin

>>155363031
i wish the kids didnt have powers , there i said it

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>>155371294
Wrong

>>155371477
Jai did have his powers taken from him for 12 years

>>155371947
Literally had to crop out impulse kek. Also appreciate you not calling out the fact I completely biffed my "ugly" But he does look nice here, just not in most stuff I've seen him in. Irey feels she's the main focus, and like he's the twin everyone forgets.

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>>155372657
Impulse is cute, but I like Jai more. I think it depends on who's drawing him, even Irey looks ugly in some panels, but Jai looks cute in most I think. I agree Irey gets more of a focus, but that's why I wanna see more of this boy.
Also, I can't call out your spelling when I'm dyslexic as shit kek

>>155373134
True think irey just benefits from being a girl, and most of the worst art in comics makes girls look slightly mannish or too mature for age. But boys get made too mannish off rip so add that and fact he's barely in the kid comics and you get a boy who looks ugly or fuckboyish in most of his appearances. Impulse just benefits from his hair style and nature being the lead. Jai just gets fucked because everyone prefers irey both in the studio and at home.

Sadly doesn't help his suit isn't all that interesting irey's feels like it has more passion in it being a reverse of the flashes color scheme. Poor jai just gets orange, plus he wasn't as recurring as she was in the super sons/kids runs. They fucked poor jai I suppose, but power to you anon maybe you'll get something

>>155363031
Giving her design twintails is just indulgent.

>>155373478
Maybe, idk much about comic art, I can just go off how I feel. Both Irey and Jai are usually drawn quite well imo and only 1 or 2 artists have ever truly fucked them up. Also, I don't mind comic boys to look a little fuckboyish. I definitely feel most at the studio prefer Irey, Adams even admitted to liking her more. On the other hand, Spurrier definitely fucked with Jai more than Irey and it was interesting to see someone finally develop his character.

His suit is shit, I can't even defend that. I think his red one was decent, but only Adams used that at the end of his run and it hasn't been seen since. I think Jai gets shafted more than any other character, which sucks because he can be interesting at times. Oh well, I'll just wait for a new writer to come along and make him interesting again. Whatever happens, I'll still prefer him over his sister.

>>155374828
Hey someone had to flesh him out might need to read that run if I haven't already don't remember names of creators like that. I meant more in the since of young boys end up with man heads on kid bodies or worse weirdly chiseled features as teens so they look fucked up.

Yeah it's funny we have a super kid for most of the core heroes now specifically in the 8-13 age range. Aka the supersons range, but for some reason whenever we do flash he's never used instead they focus on irey as if jai is a after thought

I like irey myself but can say I feel for him, also funny that he's impulses dad in canon iirc.

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>>155375069
I recommend it, it's some of the best Flash writing in a while. Also has some nice Wally/ Jai moments when he remembers he has a son too. God yeah, I know exactly what you mean, awful art like that can ruin a book. Luckily I don't think Jai has ever had it THAT bad...

I've always associated Jai/ Irey with Damian, Jon, and other kid characters like that. I even remember the twins teamed up with the Super Sons in one issue. Unfortunately, I think they're both getting replaced by Judy Garrick now. Also, idk many times when Irey is seen without Jai, they mostly appear together.

I like Irey too, I like them both, I just prefer Jai a bit more

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>>155375351
God why is it exclusive comic artist that for some reason suck at kids and teens a lot of the time. Literally most other types of creators do it well, graphic novels,manga, euro artist etc. But something about The big 2 and they have a 50-50 chance of drawing kids like picrel.

I feel like I remember seeing a really bad jai when they were first introduced but also was a bad impulse too so who knows how long ago that was.

I meant in terms of Irey being the focus, like how after their superson run people started shipping her with jon and damien. An there was a lot of fanart of them as the big 3 but she represented flash no jai
>>155363342
>This pic is one of the many examples of how the fandom feels about jai lol

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>>155375482
I can't be certain, but I think comic artists are held to a lesser standard. The editors don't care how the book looks so long as the words on the page are good and people buy it. That's the only explanation I can think of. Comic artists are trained to draw superheroes, and most of them are muscular men, so that's how they fuck up kids faces so often.

I'm pretty sure you're talking about Daniel Acuña, and yeah, his art is shockingly bad. So much so that he was kicked off the Flash book after only 2 issues. The other bad Flash artist I think of is Vasco Georgiev, who unfortunately illustrated some of the best Spurrier issues, but made Jai and Bart look 30. I was so glad when he left the book.

Oh yeah, for sure Irey has more fanart than Jai. And during that time I remember Jai being forgotten by fans. I'm pretty sure that was when he had his powers taken from him too, which also explains his absence in fanart and stuff.
KEK Yeah, I think ur right tbf. Most people would have Jai tied up and replaced with Irey lol

>>155371477
It will never happen because comic book creators are eugenetics believers and NEED the superhero child to also have powers otherwise they're useless.

>>155375766
I wonder if Irey also has fans built in from Kingdom Come/The Kingdom's Iris West, while her brother in that was a slacker. Jai being depowered and not in focus as much and those people hyped for her being canon probably didn't help.

>>155376365
Cuties.

>>155376427
Yeah, I can believe it. KC is a very popular comic, and she played a substantial roll. I'm glad Jai West is an entirely different character from Barry West, I couldn't stand him in KC. Yeah, exactly, but now that he's got his powers back I imagine he'll have more fans.

>>155363043
Ass?

During the DC K.O. Tournament, Irey, Stargirl and Yara Flor were mind controlled by Darkseid’s force for quite a while off panel.
What do you think happened to them?

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>>155377201
Yeah I’m wondering what Darkseid’s goons did to them before this.

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>>155377253
>>155377201
Darkside has attempted mind control on the twins before, he probably did something like this again

>>155377201
How old are Irey West and Judy Garrick suppose to be now?

>>155377201
This reminds me that there should be more evil kid supervillains.

>>155377372
Judy is 16

>>155377372
Jai and Irey are around 13.

I have no clue about Judy, she acts older than the twins, and is treated by other characters to be. Yet she's still drawn to be young. I'd say maybe 16-18.

>>155363031
Hapa ass

>>155363031
God, I hate animeslop

>>155377977
Because you're a fag with no taste, we know

>>155375766
True and sometimes fuck up female characters as well, example the guy who makes Invincible when it comes to female faces. I remember wanting so badly to be a comic artist as a kid too

Why does his impulse look like he is the offspring of irey and jai kek. Dude looks like he has down syndrome. Damn the old classic, honestly why I'm not one of those comicfags against more graphic novel/manga esque style. Sure it breaks the rule but damn if they aren't better looking females and kids. Really why I hate ghiruhiru isn't always working on gwenpool or powerpack. They need to have a rule that some artist must work on certain characters or kid heroes because supersons had the same issue. Where most art of them is great and looks nice then some artist draw them like gremlins.

Lol jai the twin cucked to death, powerless bitchless sisterless friendless.
>Irey: man it's so great being the first popular female flash character
>Jon: Yeah it's great having you on the team, crazy we are all kids of heroes
>Damien: We are like our own justice league
>Jai: Y...yeah gu-
>"Who the fuck is this loser"
>Jai: I...it's me irey your bro...ther...Jai?
>Irey: Who?

Poor jai
>>155376427
>>155377086
Damn I forgot she was in Kingdom come

>>155379097
Jai is currently fucking Animal Man’s daughter though.

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>>155379097
Invincible is terrible for female faces, they all genuinely look so bad. I was never skilled enough to be a comic artists, but I did wanna be a comic writer.

He looks so ugly there, Georgiev can't draw for shit. He does look like an imbread offspring. I personally really like that style desu, Ghiruhiru drew my favourite version of Jai, they should definitely be on Power Pack full time. Yeah, some Super Sons art looks like hot ass. It's a shame too because I always enjoy their stories.

Jai does get cucked a lot, even in fanart. Though he's not powerless anymore, and he's also dating Maxine Baker, who's another cute redhead. He definitely wouldn't be invited to hang out with Irey and Damian, they probably would tie his ass up and stash him behind the couch lol
>Irey: did you hear that noise?
>Damian: nope
>Jai: mmmph!

Would you like to tie him up and fuck his sister anon?

>>155379097
>>155379540
Jai gets more action than Irey tho

>>155379370
A literal who dating a literal who, also isn't animal man's whole life/family fucked to hell. Like animal man has the wildest plots. I think that's not a good thing to be involved with the animal clan
>>155379540
We all dream anon, also yeah invincible animated did one good thing which was fixing the faces

Oh yeah the shazam one right? and yep that art wasn't great really the further back you go the worst kid characters look. I think we need to enslave ghiruhiru and make them work on supersons, spiderboy and powerpack no more jeff the shark. Also yeah extra shame because now they'll probably never be a good comic again jon sucks now and damien is being forced with the girl

Redheads run in the family I guess, also funny because we don't know who's impulse's mom but she's most likely not a super or else he'd have a second power. Damien ntrs jai was not in my thread bingo
>Jai sings Second place by bots
>>155379584
I mean doesn't matter if no one cares

>>155379097
Impulse got his big hair from his mom Meloni. His cousin Jenni/XS is half-black from her dad's side.

>>155379985
Huh weird, I'm very confused on the flash families now. Like how does Jay have a daughter who's a teen/young adult when he fought in WW which makes him 80-100+

>>155365257
I mean theres no doubt about impulse being the cute speed boy. Even Irey look up to him as her inspiration.

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>>155363031
I'm happy that Irey has some fans. Have some more Irey art. Will post more later. <3

>>155368474
What was it? Can anyone repost them with catbox?

>>155379584
>>155379540
>>155377302
>>155363342
Every Jai art I have seen is him tied up in ropes. Why is it so common?

>>155381085
Nice butt.

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>>155381085
Art by Rnekon215 on twitter

>>155381085
Its a shame what they did with Jon
Is ut true they're doing something similar with Damian?

>>155383005
Damian? No he's fine right now. The whole aging up damian was a 5G idea with Bendis that didn't work because his legion comic thankfully flopped. But the butcher was already done with Jon. Right now Damian just busy with homework. Same with the west twins.

>>155383068
Meanwhile adult Jon is playing games while Ultraboy is in hell 2 bongaloo mother edition.

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>>155379924
Idk, they're a cute couple, I ship it. Animal Girl is good for him.

True, and true that.

Another artist I can't stand is Rossmo, all his character's heads look like beans. Ghiruhiru would be great on a super-sons- type Irey & Jai book, I'd read the shit outta that.

Lucky, since redheads are hot.
>Damian ntrs jai was not in my thread bingo
Well, it is now.

>>155383130
I'm against young heroes growing up, so don't have much interest myself. Literally theirs no point like jon, you can't have him become superman and wally's kids can't become the flash. So keep them kids so they don't get fridged or something. So a teenage jai and animal girl just feelslike it'll go no where. The older a kid hero gets the less screentime they get

Yep really one of the only things saving the show

Honestly only if they are kids/pre teens again. But yeah really ghiruhiru or peach momoko these asian bitches know how to draw young characters. Funny how two of the most popular comic artist are both asian females. Everyone is in love with peach momoko and her art style/stories and Ghiruhiru have been great since they picked up the pen.

Sadly Damian has done a 180 on fans, from the most hated robin. To now people do threads questioning which super brat he'll make his girl. It's honestly crazy, also shows how fuckin good supersons was and why I despise Bendis with my entire heart and soul. I Really was shocked how good supersons was and it could have been the dc kids story, they had some nice cameos even felt like they were setting up a kiddie justice league could have been a fun way to do things. Was even more popular than the teen titans comics I heard they were always top sellers. Idk what type of hold bendis has at comic studios to keep doing this bs.

>>155383393
I feel the same desu, Jon was so much better as a kid and they've made him so boring after they aged him up. I don't think Jai and Max are aged up here, they're still supposed to be 13, it's just the artist's style, that's why I don't mind it. I definitely like Jai more as a kid hero.

I've not watched the show, I just don't think it's my thing.

Yeah, they gotta be kids, that's the best part. Momoko is another great artist, her Ultimate X-Men run looked so good. I really wouldn't hate to see more artists adopt that stylised/ anime-esque fashion. Especially on a Flash twins book.

Damian was always my favourite Robin, but that's only because I started reading during the super sons run. Damian had more chemistry with Jon than he will with any girl editorial tries to pair him with, they were on to a winning formula and Bendis fucked it up. A kid JL would be golden. Damian, Jon, Irey, Jai, Lian, Maxine. DC would make so much money, but DC would rather kiss Bendis' ass and ruin all their best heroes.

>>155381036
Impulse is the cute speed boy, but Jai is the cute strength boy

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>>155381252
It's better if he's tied up, means he's not drawing attention away from the cute speedster girls

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>>155383838
More than Kathy? Honestly I don't mind Damian and Jon relationship too much but he really had such a cute relationship with Kathy before DC forgot about her after aging him up. Also there barely was any female character aside from Kathy that get paired with Jon. Kinda feels unfair to compare them.

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>>155375482
>Lian, Damian, and Irey

Sad we never got to see them interact as a trio.

>>155385815
Who? Can't lie, I have no recollection of Kathy. She kinda looks familiar, but I'm guessing that's down to DC not ever using her past the super sons run?

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>>155386242
She was Jon Kent first childhood friend before Damian. First apperance was I believe during the 2016 Superman run? And her last was during the bizzaro super sons event.

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>>155386242
Really miss her alot. Still suck that Jon never talked about her anymore.

>>155386714
>>155386739
She seems like a interesting character

>>155386199
They instantly killed all of the kid hero vibes with all the sudden aging up
>>155386714
>>155386739
To bad she's gets memory-holed and will never returned. It'll be the same thing with flatline, they make these fad gfs then just make them gay or get with a more popular girl. Or the next head writer is petty and makes his own self-insert ship so he can get some notoriety.

Sad reality is writers aren't the same they are petty and many have admitted. Before they leave they try to fuck something up or make a big change so fans will always remember them. Bendis said that about jon, and Zeb web ironically said something similar about Paul. They basically don't want to be just known for a good run but instead being controversial or breaking the wheel so they are remembered.
>>155383838
13 but looks 19 ah comics, see this why I said bad art. But again just not a big fan of 20 yr old pre-teens lol. I do agree jon just sucks now he's basically teen superman but gay.....both literally and figuratively. Honestly if they wanted to make him gay I'd have accepted him and damien shit you even get the supbat fans. Now he's teen supes but smallville did that better anyway and legion of superheroes

That's very ok honestly I just enjoyed invincible as a kid and want to see what they fuck up.

I prefer that style now, mostly because feels like many modern comic artist aren't that good. An the old gen is aging out and their styles are very dated now.Also yeah Momoko is pretty based too, literally has a pre-teen girl who compensate dates men and one of them was almost the mcs dad. Literally like wtf going on. Flash twins would thrive with her another thing is most people can't draw super speed good but her water color style would go hella well with it.

>>155387823
>>155383838
Yeah see you are damn near brand new lol, if you were around in the dark era damien got hate all over here tumblr twitter everywhere. Yep really something about their vibe just worked, usually it's the cringe odd couple but they work. Sadly bendis is basically similar to the guy that made gwenpool asexual, they force a lgbt thing on character right before pride month. If the studio deletes it they look bad it forces them into a fucked up situation. Truly it's another example of how unprofessional most creatives are now. Literally super sons, had a novel, graphic novel, a weird book that was just them retelling the movie with the scripting and frames(was so weird it was cheap asf). like 5 comics and tons of cameos. They also sold out all the time they were always the top sellers even beating or matching sups and batman. Idk who at dc was the retard who decided to seperate them.
>>155384054
Wait jai has superstrength?
>>155385415
Weird this is the 3rd one I've seen too. Like is jai cuck just a meme?

>>155363031
How does Wally already have teenage children? Isn't he only supposed to be in his 20s?

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>>155386199

Damian and Irey officially met back in Flash # 786, along with # 797. And that one holiday comic.

>>155388006
Same way Roy has a teenage child. But the real answer is fast aging just like Bart Allen due to the speed force. It was killing them making them age quick but Wally managed to save them both.

>>155387887
Yeah, I missed all that. I do remember people online talking about still hating Damian when I first got into the comic space, but I hardly ever see any of that now. I honestly think the Jon/ Damian combo was lightning in a bottle, never to be recaptured again unless DC stop ignoring their most interesting kid characters. Gay rep in comics is so fucked, the way it's written makes it seem that characters wake up one morning and are suddenly gay. There's no development, no set-up, just:
>"That guy looks cute"
>*gasp*
>"I must be gay"
Unfortunately, it comes with the territory of constantly changing writers for a single character, all fighting to leave an impression of their version on that character. Tim Drake was never written with the intent that his character was bi until Fitzmartin wrote him that way, so reading it chronological, it feels like it comes out of nowhere. It's bad rep, and poor writing.
The thing that made super sons special was Damian and Jon's personalities, and the fact that they were kids. That's why the shit with Trinity isn't catching. It didn't matter what poorly written plot they were thrown into, people still wanted to read them to see the characters interacting. It was lighthearted, entertaining, and genuinely fun to read. Thing is, it's so evident that DC regrets the decision to age up Jon since they keep bringing back young Jon for occasional stories.

>Wait jai has superstrength?
Yes, that's why he's more interesting than other Flash family members

>is jai cuck just a meme?
Also yes, he's cuck material

>>155388787
Oh yeah he's a fan fave like jason todd, funny how that works. Why I always tell people that think it's just girl new characters they are full of it. Most "Oh I'm actually the mcs kid" characters get extra hate early on. Yeah really and sadly no matter what they do it'll be hard to bring that lightning back. Their best bet is to pretend bendis never happened and just soft reboot them both. But now they have the absolutes so they don't care.

Very true same thing with tim drake, "Ah I dated a girl and women for 2 decades. But idk this guy is cute now I'll cheat on my gf" Truly amazing writing. Yeah and it's always just a complete rando character too just out of no where they are fucking some twink kek

Crazy I mentioned tim above, also yep really still proves my point that they are super selfish. Not trying to just write a good run anymore but a "buzz filled run" one that will trend online. True but wait what's trinity again? is that the one where they took the baby WW daughter and made her a adult/teen? Really is dumb if they hate it so much just de-age him but think they are more scared of angering the lgbt fans or dealing with a gay 10 year old. Like how can you keep him gay rep but also make him a little kid again. DC basically is fuck they have to make one side angry and ironically the side that doesn't buy comics is the side they chose. I literally got into super sons because my friends daughter has everything and forced me to watch that movie with her. That's who will buy everything not people that buy the first issue of gay jon and then say "We did it"

To bad he never shows it off, though really is interesting and horrifying. Imagine a 10 year old running at you before you could finish blinking then knocks your jaw off like spiderman did scorpian

Sadge

>>155389137
Yeah, that is funny. I guess it just takes time for a character to grow before they become popular. I think they're currently trying to split Jon into 2 characters, one being his teenage self and another being his kid self. Idk, I'm not really following it and I don't really care to.

I like to compare Tim Drake with John Constantine when it comes to them as queer rep. Tim had no prior interest in men, and the first time he was written to do so, he instantly starts dating his high school friend. It comes out of nowhere and feels forced. In comparison, Constantine casually referenced in some random issue having both girlfriends and "the odd boyfriend" in his past. Other writers came along later and developed that. That's why John feels so much more like a realistic depiction of a bi man. It's not surprising to imagine John as bi because it fits his character & personality, and it was handled in a tasteful way.

It's the same shit recycled. It feels like everyone is just yelling the same arguments everytime. It's just noise pollution at this point. Trinity is Wonder Woman's daughter, and Tom King's attempted to shoehorn his own "super son" into the dynamic. It doesn't work and nobody reads her stories, she's destined to be forgotten about in the sea of other unsuccessful characters. They can de-age him and still keep him gay, homosexuality isn't something that just switches on at the age of 15. If Jon is gay now, then he still would've been gay at 10. I don't even think he's dating Jay Nakamura anymore, so it's not like that's gonna affect anything. Idk why DC is so against writing gay kid characters, why did they feel it necessary to age him up first?

As much as I love Spurrier's run on Flash for developing Jai's character, it does suck that he made Jai not want to be a hero/ use his strength. I get what they were going for, but Jai works so well as a hero. His super strength and Irey's super speed makes for a good combo.

>>155389952
Ironically I think they tried to replace him with the new twins as well. But then they didn't catch on, but then Maws gave him a twin sis too. Ironically teen jon is the worst super teen by far, even classic 80s superboy was better and kara at her worse was better as well. So he really will either be killed off or turned into a kid again.

Wasn't it a whole single issue just about him being a twink? Also yeah constatnine was always just a "I'll fuck anything type of character"

Wait who's tom king super son? But yeah heard tom king's WW run was ass so not suprising to hear. This is like WW's 3rd unsuccessful modern relative. Only donna troy and Cassie matter and even then they rarely appear in external media anymore. Like spoiler from batman. Well I know as Imentioned in my example my friend would definitely not let his daughter read a gay supersons. So can see why they'd be wary most supersons fans are kids they sell them in book fairs. Do you realize how fast those books would get banned if people found out jon was fruity. But I hope they just do it i'd prefer gay kid jon than older loser jon. Though now I imagine them making new jon in supersons the most yaaaas queeen queer kid ever and it makes me chuckle.

Wait he doesn't have speed?

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>>155390116
I totally forgot about the twins. I guess it's because I don't read much superman, but also I don't think they're even close to being as memorable as Jai and Irey. Hard agree that teen Jon is the worst, he's just so lame.

It was a story split into 3 parts in an anthology book called Batman Urban Legends. It would've gone totally unnoticed if comic news sites hadn't made a big fuss about it.

I've attached a picture, that's Trinity. Don't be fool by the fact she's wearing a Robin costume, she's Wonder Women's daughter somehow. Donna, Cass and Spoiler all need to appear more imo. I guess you're right, but if young Jon can have a crush on Kathy, it should be ok for him to have a crush on a boy too. Yeah, schools do love banning books tbf. A talented writer would be able to make young gay Jon into a nuanced and compelling character. Bendis would make him into a 'yasss queen' queer kid. His inability to write lgbt characters is genuinely baffling.

No, Jai doesn't have speed. He does have a connection to the speedforce, but he uses that connection to accelerate the growth of his muscles which makes him super strong. It's a little confusing, but basically he has stength, not speed. That's what makes him special.

>>155364895
Kino

>>155390509
Ew the fuck boi ass hair cut damien has, also this would work so much better if they were supersons and then boom little sis WW daughter.

I only remember seeing art of the kiddie wonder woman daughter. But isn't she already a teen now herself?

I did know that, weird she's in a robin outfit guess they realized a little girl in a wonder woman outfit would look a bit sus. They all need to but cass has been in quite a few of recent even had a whole arc in YJ and was the a mc in the lovecraft batman movie. I mean it should be but certain people will seethe and those people decide what their kids read and kids are the main buyers of these books. True hope they can do it I miss supersons, bendis would tom king too. Honestly it's more of figuring out who wouldn't do it shitty than who would do it bad to many to count. With how many he writes you'd think he could but alas, it's a old man trying to write lgbt stuff just for the points not because he cares for real. It's like him and miles which probably is the only reason he still gets work at this point.

T...that's dumb........that's intereresting but it's dumb.....it's kind of cool but it's so fuckin DUMB. Like by that logic does that mean every speedster should be able to do it. Also why not connect him to the strength force instead we literally have the strength force for a reason.
>>155390568
Yeah it's good irey loss

>>155390509
Oh forgot to mention the teens, weird they are already being phased out didn't one of them become some form of god or watcher bs. They barely existed of course and they weren't even supes real kids and the girl was the only popular one and she's some type of deity or something. Jon just has none of the fun he originally had and he's the weakest superboy in terms of character/personality. He's just a good kid superman like nothing interesting going on

>>155390794
For some reason, whenever Damian appears in a comic, there is a 50% chance his hair will be fucked up. I don’t know how, but it's consistently a 50/50. Trinity would work so much better if she wasn't written by Tom King, he makes her insufferable.

She's a kid, teen, and adult. All three versions of herself met up to rescue Jon and Damian after they are turned into corgis and get lost in time. It is exactly as unfunny as you imagine. King will jump around time depending on what version of Trinity he wants to use.

Yeah, I imagine so. Oh shit, I'll probably check those out at some point. True true, you make a good point. Honestly, Greg Rucka would be a great choice. He wrote good lgbt rep in Batwoman Elegy and Gotham Central, I think he'd write a good gay kid Jon. Bendis got lucky with Miles, otherwise he would never have been able to get away with all that stuff at DC.

Yeahhhh, it kinda is. I like that Jai is special, and he can use the speedforce in ways his family can't. I like that he has strength, it compliments Irey's speed. But realistically, using speedforce to accelerate muscle growth is a dumb explanation and he should've realistically just been part of the strengthforce for simplicity. He does technically have other powers too, thanks to the speedforce, but they're even harder to explain and he doesn't use them often enough. Anyway, ignoring how he gets his power, I think it's cool that he has super strength. The strength/ speed dynamic of Jai/ Irey would make for a great ongoing imo.

>>155390997
Yeah true but they really made it ass here he bald on the sides lol. Damn can tom king just not write anymore?

Did you say corgis? and god sounds awful happy she didn't catch on I guess. ew god tom king might finally be to far gone that sounds horrible for the artist and as a writer.

Part of me just needs to make the joke, but new supersons just cuts in on jon sucking some other boy off lol. True empowerment, and yeah bendis also adopted them kids to push miles I just know it lol. Idk why miles is even kept around but that's a different convo

Yeah that and why can't others like wally who became a speed god do it. Lowkey the flaw of kid heroes having same powers as then when they do something parent can't who are multiversial you arelike wtf? But really is interesting just weird because literally have the strengthforce lowkey wish he had the slow force or something be cool one speed force one slowforce. But isn't he kind of useless in most flash comics since they all are at super speed. Like the speed war arc he was just frozen like everyone else lol.

>>155390509
Trinity is only good as Wonder Robin.

>>155363031
Imagine if they put Irey into Teen Titans or Teen Titans Go. How cute her design would look adapted into that.

>>155391746
It would be pretty cute.

When Wally met future adult Irey, who was she hinting at that she was dating now.l?

>>155392577
It was assumed to be Damian. But honestly the future is always changing so I doubt it gonna be Damian this time.

Jai’s girlfriend, Animal Girl, is in this week’s Aquaman issue.

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>>155391103
Yeah, it does look particularly bad. I wish he'd just retire already.

Yep, Damian and Jon turn into corgis. I think I remember reading in an interview that Tom King asked his artist what they wanted to draw and they said corgis, so King then made a whole multiple arc story around it. I couldn't even bring myself to hate read it.

Kek maybe it would get more readers if that did happen. I would believe it, sounds like something Bendis would do. I like Miles, but I haven't really read any of his books.

Wally can't do it because his connection to the speedforce is different, Jai has a unique relationship to the speedforce and it allows him to use it in different ways that everyone else can't. Tbf, there's a lot Jai can't do, that his dad can. Jai is unable to use the speedforce to run fast, which puts him at a disadvantage at times, like during 1 minute war. One speed one slow would be interesting, and I think that was originally the plan when they made the twins. When Jai lost his powers, he was going to gain a connection to the slow force and turn evil. Like, he'd be the reverse flash to Irey's flash. Ultimately, they scrapped that idea, and I'm glad they did because I think he's more interesting as a hero. He was completely frozen in 1 minute war because writer Jeremy Adams has a hard on for Irey and he wanted to make Jai watch, that's where the Jai cuck meme comes from. But Spurrier's run immediately changed all that, Jai actually became the mvp of that arc. Through typical comic bs he was given extra powers, one being able to manipulate matter, he literally saved the world multiple times in Spurrier's run and even removed cancer from The Shade's wife. He's so goated in Spurrier's run, that's why I like him.

>>155393281
Just saw

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>>155393675
Couldn't post it earlier but here she is

>>155394140
Nice lil bod on her. So flat and lithe.

>>155394140
Jai gets to tap that.
And since Buddy Baker believes in animalism, he knows he can’t control his daughter’s natural sex drive. It’s just nature taking its course.
So Jai is allowed to tap that.

>>155394140
https://youtu.be/5ok-LnEmz88

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I wish the there was a summer event for the new gens also this might be the last month we'll see Otho ra in the dc comic. Artist is: 그리머드리머 from pixiv.

>>155394140
Jai is lucky

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>>155394691
The fact that we never had a story where the Super Twins meet other young heroes is such a waste.

>>155394691
I didn’t know Irey and Otho-Ra had that many international fans.

>>155394691
Any more Iris and Otho art like this?

>>155363031
Artist?

>>155395562
Genn unzzenasd from twitter

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>>155395549
Not that many sadly. Which is why I really need to commission more of them.

>>155395896
Commission one of Jai and Osul-Ra doing a Sister Swap.

>>155395915
Eh I was thinking more of a tit focus for Otho Ra.

>>155393305
Sometimes that's just the best bet retire at the top

Wtf is going on, also really being too nice to your crew situation. Like people that allow their crew to do whatever which leads to the most cringe concepts.

I've read some and really never all that great, but yeah probably be the highest and last selling super sons.

I mean but wally is the literal avatar of the speedforce and fought the speedforce itself. He should be able to do anything. But yeah useless in 1 minute war thing. Yeah but guess they are doing that anyway it seems. No I want twin rivals tired of twin heroes that basically do nothing. Literally imagine a petty jai as her reverse flash lol.

>Reverse jai, hates irey for always being the fan favorite and their dads favorite
>Jai: It was me irey, I made you into furry
>Jai with a evil smirk holding up her furry sona pic
>Jai: I used the slow force to subliminally add anthro stuff into your daily life.
>He basically tyler durden's her
>Jai: Now you'll never have a healthy sex life, I also convinced you to get a fursuit and I'm the one that made the reciept slip out of your shorts in class. It was all me irey.

I feel that level of pettiness would 100% fit the black sheep to the golden child literally both in verse and fandom

Great. Now Flashfags are schizos? Shit's catching.

>>155397388
Sex with Dawn and Jenni

All of the females in the Flash family need to have small tits and tone asses. With maybe Jesse Quick having the biggest knockers.

>>155397586
That is kind of just the runner girl bod, so having average chest is big in that family

>>155363031
She's so fucking sexy.

>>155398781
SHE’S 13!!!!!!!

>>155398903
Good.

>>155398903
Technically they're like a month old you know. Speed aging and all that like with Bart.

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>>155397145
True, it's a smart move.

There's too many cooks in the kitchen imo, a writer should write and an illustrator should draw. Otherwise, the story gets too messy and the book suffers.

Fair enough, I'll take your word for it. I'd put money on that lol.

The speedforce isn't really a tangible thing in the comics, a writer decides what Wally gets out of it. Expecting consistency in comics is pointless. The way I see it, the speedforce is kinda like a bike. Wally has mastered how to ride that bike, while Jai struggles, but Jai knows how to disassemble it and rebuild it into something that he does know how to use. It's weird he was left out of 1 minute war, especially since he dose have a connection to the speedforce and even Linda gained temporary powers just to be included. I truly believe Adams' just wanted to cuck Jai, he would always refer to him as "Irey's brother" in tweets. He definitely had a hard on for Irey. Nah, the evil twin trope is so overdone. I think they work well off each other as heroes, they kinda have a cute relationship, even though Jai kinda would have a point to hate her.
KEK Irey as a furry. He could do so much to ruin her life if he really wanted.

Jai as the black sheep makes him so much more interesting to me, I think he has struggled with villainous thoughts before but it's good to see him overcome them.

What if Irey was a gangbang slut?

>>155400044
Lian might have her beat. She had to survive in the streets.

>>155400044
She would be slightly more interesting.

>>155399784
Why doesn’t she look half Korean like Jai?

>>155402038
Because her dad white. She a Wasian. Jai a wAsian.

>>155399784
Yep retiring is the best especially when you are well known. Yes sir-e basically modern writers try to be too nice and vice versa. Like ABT in idw sonic getting his oc not only in the bg but giving her a character arc and it'sone of the most annoying self-righteous ones. Because she's his oc and he loves her but he's a artist not a writer and it shows.

Super sons, after dark would probably outsell superman and batman for the whole year. It'd be funny just seeing how many people "hate" read it

Specifically the big 2, really why I've been more indie and smaller comics recently. I've been down sizing both comics and games and animations. Really get to enjoy stuff again because it's hell keeping up with every single new flash rule or lantern core, likenow they have chrome lanterns. which is the new strongest I heard or some bs. I think theirs beauty in a superhero story that has a solid beginning middle and end. Ohhhhh so Jai is the autistic kid kek, but I get it guess just funny you can become speedforce god but someone else can do things you can't. I mean it is 1 minute, before his brain could process it, the event was over even superman couldn't help. I think everyone had a hard on for Irey anon, it seems to be the theme. I mean it is but not when they actually grew up together, evil twin is always a secret or a clone or a multiverse bs or lost at birth. A evil kid in the main family everyone grew up with would be fun. Why I used to like max from the thundermans something fun about a evil kid within a hero family it's never done well. The kid always goes good but dammit wouldn't it be cool if they actually get worse and more hateful. Really hero twins is done to death we just named like 3 just in this brief convo and they are all new gen ones.

>>155403143
>>155399784
True just the dumbest thought I could think without turning it into rapey twin incest schlock though sure if he was evil jai would get more fanart. An they'd have quite the interesting dynamic in it. A bit like what franklin and valeria went through for a sec with her doom girl mini arc. Honestly if he can mess with bodies, Imagine if Jai gave her polio.
>You won't be running so fast anymore

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>>155382713
Forgot to share some more. Here's Irey west in a blue archive succubus outfit.

>>155403164
I... I don't think that how Jai powers work.....and that pretty evil lmao

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>>155403143
I can probably name a lot of authors who should retire. I get it's good to be on good terms with the writer/ artist you work with, but there's definitely a balance. A Sonic creator being self-righteous about their ocs... where have I heard that one before?...

If DC had balls, that's probably exactly what they'd do. I'd pick it up.

Only 'big 2' book I read is The Flash, everything else is indie or limited series stuff. GL is never a hero I cared to follow, I just know I'll get bored if I try to follow eveything going on. But unironically, I do think Jai has autism, it kinda makes sense if you look into his character. That's the nature of comic books. That's true, and I guess it makes sense that he was frozen, I just wish he played a bigger part. Yeah, other than Spurrier, he must have a thing for shota instead. You've got a point, and it does create tension and give Jai something to do. But you'd need to age him up to become a villain, right? He's only 13, I doubt he'd be able to do anything evil at that age. Also, wouldn't that make dinnertime awkward? Assuming he'd still have to go home after his torment of Irey was done. There's definitely an interesting idea there, I probably wouldn't mind reading it in an Elseworlds book, but mainline Jai is too far from that now. Hero twins are done to death, but there's something special about Jai and Irey that I really like.

>>155403164
You mean he'd get more fanart where he isn't being tied up? Kek
Jai and Irey do remind me a lot of Frank and Val. It might be a good little arc, but I'm not sure if it would work as a huge change to the status quo.
Damn anon, that's dark lol

>>155383130
The girls were drawn really cute in this comic.

>>155403579
Damn sexo anon, who's the artist
>>155403601
He can get rid of cancer he can give her polio
>>155403837
True, that there is really just weird how much they go both ways terribly now. I mean true but still bad lol. I'm sure many people against it would too, be the fap of the decade

Really honestly wanted to get back into the flash even have some flash posters up. But really he's hard to read too with all the bs. Yeah indie is great also GL and flash were my faves because they were lesser loved. I can see the autism route, nonstandard powers, not as outgoing as other flash's yeah it's there. I mean not really in fact kid villains are so few and far between so why not go all in. Like klarion or the child or Lor zod etc. They are so few but it's a interesting concept to play with. I mean he has autism and unique speedforce or slowforce if we go evil route/planned. So yes he could do something plus could do a valeria and become zoom or reverse flash apprentice. Also that's the fun of a kid villain they have parents and weirder defeat stipulations especially if we going ghiruhiu power pack/superson stye where literally flash and superman can one shot anyway. It'd really be basically the super kid equivalent of getting bullied in school once a adult finds out it's over but that's most kid plots. it's like saying if peter tells the avengers half his problems they'd orbital nuke them. True probably best elseworld can't have anything fun in the main timeline kek, but yeah hero twins are done to death idk really feels like irey barely has a twin and more I learn about jai more true it seems she's the true front runner no pun intended

Ironically he'd be tying up irey for some fans headcanon. Ironically they'd be the inverse of val and frank. Since val went evil because she is doom's god daughter and thought she had no powers for a second. It is but it works she'll have to run long leg short leg. now I want a kiddie comic with a speedster and kid villain

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>>155404049
Same artist as the one in here <3. Also don't forget while Jai can do that I think Irey could do the same. They're both speed force babies after all. Like iirc with the bug thing Jai can create shapes but Irey can copy energy? Not sure how that fully works.

>>155398903
Out of 10!

>>155404619
Well apparently if what anon said is true she can't only jai has that unique body altering speedforce ability aka why he has super strengh and she has super speed. A interesting thought process though.

To be fair can't all speedsters copy energy just usually needs to be some level of understanding. But they are both kids of speed god wally so not impossible she skips a step and can just do it innately but mostly they copy speed energy or can redirect other forces like at times wally can absorb or negate slow force.

>>155363031
I wanna see Irey suck on some dick.

>>155404049
If you're gonna get back into Flash, I'd recommend with the Spurrier run. There is still a lot of bs, but it's a really good character piece and you'd understand why I like Jai so much. Lesser loved comics are the best. I think that was the direction Spurrier was heading, because he's definitely autism coded, I just wish a writer would develop that more but the current writer, North, has shown no interest in the twins. I can't lie, I don't think I know many kid villains at all, I know Klarion but that's all. As I've said, it is an interesting concept and I wouldn't mind reading it in a one off arc. Idk how well it would work for his character though. Jai being Zoom's apprentice is a very interesting idea, I can actually maybe see that happening too. How would they defeat Jai if he was to become a villian? He's super powerful, but I doubt DC or any sane publisher should show the hero father beating up his kid. It would be insanely out of character for Wally to do something like that anyway. I've not read any Avengers stories, idk how well they'd fair against spiderman's rogues. It would be fun to get some Elseworlds stories that aren't just batman and superman for a change ngl. Idk man, read Spurrier then decide. All Irey dose is run fast, the only reason anyone gives a shit about her is because she's a loli. No character there at all, just a little girl copy of her dad. Jai has actual personality, interesting powers, he's got so much more going for him than his sister.

I don't think I've seen any art of Irey tied up, just Jai for some reason. Was Val really evil? I know she's close with Doom, but she's not conventionally evil or anything like that. Who knows, maybe you'll get something like that with Judy, I just don't see it happening with the twins.

>>155398781
Trve.

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>>155405353
I might you guys talking about it so much almost feels worth it but idk. That they are I really was a fan of I hate fairyland, and really loving that small gofundme comic by a twitter artist called "Kill that guy". Always fun seeing a comic genuinely grow and build. I'll tell you the twins will probably die off, and Irey will be pulled out of the wreckage as emaciated, then turned into some new popular teen/kid hero's bimbo gf. Like animal girl many characters get this treatment they are popular for half a sec if they don't catch on well enough they get fridged if they are a boy and if girl is cute enough they get father daughter moments and passed off to some new boy or girl hero as a love interest. I don't make the rules anon, jai just doesn't stand a chance but I hope I'm wrong.

Yep, there's basically next to none besides very bit roles like Princess Fisk in Moongirl. An hammerheads son they exist to be joke characters most of the time which is sad. Horror movies and games show that a kid is terrifying if used correctly. I mean they literally have done this many times before heroes have been beaten by their parents and vice versa.

Who's judy? also yeah val was more like I said kid evil and she has her evil/apathetic scientist angle until they of course aged her up again now she's like 16-18 so now she's basically just smart sue and flirty with boys. Literally the death of a interesting young hero is getting aged up, suddenly it's like becoming a adult kills all your interesting characteristics. Thank god billy batson can't age up, because he's so iconic. But yes val has had her bratty/angst moments like when she chose doom over her own family for a short while. It felt like they were setting up a doom apprentice arc then they just scrapped it because god forbid a kid hero does anything interesting now. They even made a timeline where she saw doom as her father and went by von doom. So had some potential but they dropped it hard for some reason

>>155405856
It's good, but not for everyone. I still recommend it. I hate fairyland is great, I also enjoyed middlewest.
Your optimism inspires me anon. Perhaps if this was Marvel in the 90s, but modern DC wouldn't do that. Keep in mind Jai and Irey were created in 2005, over 20 years ago. They've survived multiple universe resets, including the new 52. They were banished to the dark multiverse, everyone's memories whiped of them, and still, somehow, managed to return. They may not make bank like Damian, but clearly they have something if they're both still here. That includes Jai, Spurrier's run only recently concluded and he was essentially the main secondary character. I say this with confidence, they're not going anywhere

I'm not familiar with any of them, but I did just remember that batman tas episode with the little girl who was a villian. She kidnapped her stage family I think. That was a good way to create a serious child villian. Ok, I get that, but what exactly would Wally do to stop him? Like, how would he take Jai down without hurting him? What after that? I know Wally wouldn't bring his own son to jail, so what would he do with him?

Judy is Jay Garrick's daughter, she was retconned into existence by Geoff Johns in a book nobody read, and now she sticks to the Flash family like a bad smell. If it isn't evident, I don't like her. All she does is take up room that would be better spent on the twins. Fair enough, I have read some Fantastic Four comics, but I've not read much of their backlog, so I don't know the full history. From what I read of that page, it's kinda cringe. Calling Doom daddy is weird. Billy is such a good character, DC needs to make more Shazam comics. I remember Frank going through his angsty teen phase where he dyed his hair black and hung out with mutants. Now, he's lost his powers and only appears at the dinning table thanks to Ryan North, which is exactly the twins current fates. Damn, North really hates writing kids doing stuff.

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>>155406384
Hmmm well might check it out. Oh need to read middlewest god need more good indie/smaller comics to read. I also loved fairyland need to catch up to p2 but honestly not as good but not awful just feels like he doesn't know what he wants to do. If I was him I'd have just started where I left off and pretended nothing changed. I mean mostly because it's horrid to kill someone's kids, unless your spiderman but honestly look at him. How many sets of kids has peter gone through and how many times have they gotten tossed around and killed. Shit heard they are trying to start pushing one of the maydays onto miles. So my theory stands, if they don't generate enough umph and their own runs they are doomed to being just the kids with random characterizations or tossed into a relationship or killed off especially jai killing off a kid the boy is always first for edge bait. An they did it already they kept killing jai and irey in front of wally in the iconic flash comic where that one pose comes from. I hope for your case anon, maybe he'll just get to be the cool bg guy. But hope they get their own solid run call it flash twins or something.

Oh baby doll, and she's a adult she was meant to be like shirley temple or gary coleman. Childstar with a disease that keeps her small and young looking. Basically that weird pituitary illness that means your gland never functions so you never go through growth phase. I mean he'd beat his ass, not first time wally has hit his "evil" family members or friends. Wally will toss him around, plus idea is he'd be irey's villian point is not getting the "big dogs" involved irey might try to cover for jai to not get him arrested/hurt by a serious hero like batman or something. Kid villian benefit is it's like the hero equivalent of a playground brawl, most parents prefer to let their kids learn how to handle bullies on their own. It's like spider boy he tries to handle most of his stuff in house, and prove himself so irey's excuse

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>>155406682
Oh yeah I do know her she basically is the weird one she's like 16-18 but somehow a 80-100 year old man's daughter makes no sense. Damn what book was that, weird guess she's taking irey's spot since I've seen her way more than irey recently. Lol think you are bias anon, but I like both her and irey and ironically judy inspired a oc of mine way more than irey. I lowkey only recently been getting back into flash for inspiration. It's actually a alt timeline her iirc raised by doom, but my point was for a while the kept pushing "oh doom will infect her and make her his daughter" plus not too cringe val cause reed daddy. An doom is a petty bitch he'd defintiely steal reed's daughter. Also kind of fits early on before they realize valeria power is being a super genius specifically she can create alien tech it's a weird power but it's different from just base super smarts. But for a while she felt like the only non super why I mentioned her being similar to jai, you are "special" but the wrong type of special in a family of super heroes. An this pushes her to doom who is just a genius who she felt related to her and who kind of babied her and made her rift with her parents abit bigger at times. Billy is great sad he doesn't get more also feels like he is in limbo he is only strong in his stories in other people's he's just death bait, so many new stories have shazam job or die off. Idk what the beef with billy is, but it's sad he deserves more collabs/league moments They try to keep black hair franklin which is retarded franklin with black hair is so dumb it irks me and it's his worst version because they give him new powers because they don't want his op powers. I say if want more check old desu valeria threads I and many have talked about ways to improve those twins. They are my jai and irey but inverted franklin has all the fanart and love and valeria is mostly seen as just loli sue which isn't unfair literally is just a mini sue.

>>155406766
Doctor Groom.

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>>155406682
Middlewest is good, I think you'd really enjoy that. I also haven't read p2 of IHF, but I've heard it's not as good as p1. That's exactly why I believe Jai/ Irey are safe, it would be pretty bad to kill of Wally's kids, especially after 20 years. Peter trading his kids for aunt may was probably one of the most controversial stories in comic book history, I'm pretty sure DC are happy to leave Wally as a dad to avoid a similar backlash. I really don't imagine they'd kill off Jai, it just wouldn't make logical sense. Honestly, worst case scenario is that Jai just remains a bg character forever. God I'd read the shit outta a flash twins book. I genuinely think that could be the next super sons if DC made that.

Yeah yeah, baby doll, technically she's an adult, but I'd classify her as a child villain. Wally would most certainly not beat his own kid lol, I get he's fought other family members but having him hit his own child is insane. There'd definitely be public uproar if anything like that happened. Honestly, I do kinda like the idea of Irey trying to cover for Jai. It's kinda sweet in a way. Jai becoming more villainous, but instead of kicking is ass, Irey is trying to cover for him and get him off the hook. I'm pretty sure Jai is more powerful than Irey, so even if they were to fight he'd win. How would Irey even defeat Jai?

>>155406766
Yeah yeah, exactly. She first appeared in star girl: the lost children. Well, I'm pretty sure they're putting her on a titans team with lian. Would it not be infinitly better to have the twins on that team instead? Jai/ Irey have both actually met lian before and already have an established history with her. All Judy is doing is taking what would be good opportunities for the twins. I can't lie, I'm definitely bias. I hope your oc has more personality than Judy, she's such a nothing character so far. The Flash book is a good place to draw inspiration, most flash characters have interesting characteristics and personality

>>155406766
Yeah yeah, exactly. She first appeared in star girl: the lost children. Well, I'm pretty sure they're putting her on a titans team with lian. Would it not be infinitly better to have the twins on that team instead? Jai/ Irey have both actually met lian before and already have an established history with her. All Judy is doing is taking what would be good opportunities for the twins. I can't lie, I'm definitely bias. I hope your oc has more personality than Judy, she's such a nothing character so far. The Flash book is a good place to draw inspiration, most flash characters have interesting characteristics and personality

>>155407946
Feels like every new speedster takes away what potential Irey has in the series. I mean she isn't even kid flash in this timeline.

>>155407946
I’m pretty sure the plan is that Lian and Judy are going to hook up and reveal as lesbians.
So that doesn’t apply to Irey.

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>>155410280
Hard to pick. Flat chested irey or oppai irey. Also she reminds me more of Asuka.

>>155411059
Cool female duo

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>>155407946
Johns seemed to like doing the "spam a bunch of halfbaked OCs for others to use or more likely kill" since his Teen Titans run, especially legacy-type characters.

>>155407421
His true name, also is crazy he named her after his dead love. An she looks like sue who in some continuity he wanted to fuck too.
>>155407941
I have heard of it, and yeah IHF is more like it's still finding it's footing sadly but think now that it finished it's first big little arc it might go back to the episodic advetures. I mean they've done it before so they'll do it again look at spiderman and mayday and anna, they kill cute red head spider daughters like a bird eats crackers at marvel. I mean you say but they killed his kids multiple times so who knows, but yeah Jai is safe as long as irey is goonable. He lives in schrodinger cuckery, he is only as relevant as people like/want to fuck his sister. I do think it would be a good book, but problem is will they make it and who can write it well, I say just make a DC kids book. So weird most comics don't have a lot of kiddie books but have a billion kid heroes to use.

That she was, and I suppose but not really at the same time. I mean you say that but wally imprison a kid in forever torture because he hurt his family. He will beat a kid if need be, I mean that's the tragedy father must save the world from his own child. I mean that too is the point hero must have a villain who's stronger or else it's boring. But think she more covers in hopes he changes and maybe her arc would be that she eventually realizes jai never will and has to do more permanent take down. Plus could be more kiddie villain book like jai using powers at school or jai stealing stuff most super sons stories especially in the graphic novels were very mundane or low level.

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>>155407946
I mean you say but gooners gonna goon, she is a cute pixie cut tomboy and more adult leaning. Irey is only popular with lolicons or genuine fans who people suspect are lolicons. lol, "she's stealing the good hero jobs from real mainline kids" but I see the point but this happens all the time.People say the same thing with jon being a teen superboy/man. Also I like to believe she does but alas haven't worked on her in a long time, but need to read more flash again and big 3 in general.
>>155408622
Damn it is crazy that wally's kids didn't take the moniker of kid flash. But yeah Irey isn't much better off than jai I guess
>>155409346
She'd be a /ll/, but really yeah tis the way it goes if they choose a random teen heroine over a younger one it's a chance it's for romance.

>>155413638
Source??

>>155414003
not even that anon, but jcm2 I'd bet my life on it

>>155414062
You've got a good eye for porn anon, it is jcm2

>>155413062
Same. Ngl I wish artist of 4chans can give her some loves. ToT

>>155413062
I mean not all threads need to be wankfest, some actual comic discussion is fun sometimes. Gives her more than just goonbait persona
>>155414349
We got some new art early so it's happening just slowly, sadly it'll take her being in a big event probably

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>>155413374
That's exactly what I mean, and it just takes up space.

>>155413468
First part of IHF was really good though. Marvel did it in the 2000s and it's still one of their most controversial decisions yet. I think that would dissuade most from trying something like that. Jai is probably DCs biggest cuck, and all that fanart backs it up. Everyone wants to tie him up and fuck his sister. I 100% agree, they did make a kids book called Green Lantern Legacy that had Irey team up with Tai Pham, whose a kid GL, but they've done nothing after that and it was back in 2020. They really should get back on making more books for young readers, and Irey + Jai are perfect characters to use for that.

See, that's exactly what I mean, Wally imprisoned and tortured Thad because he hurt his family. Wally is a family man and would do anything for his kids, no way would be ever raise a hand at either of them. He almost destroyed everything when he thought his Jai had been killed. How would Irey do a more permanent takedown of Jai? She definitely wouldn't kill him, so imprisonment? How would she do that against Jai's powers? Jai being an antagonist in a kids book is something I can get behind. He did make a cameo in GL Lagacy and is shown stealing cookies from Irey. Also, since it's a kids book, power-scaling doesn't really need to come into account and she could probably take Jai down by more comical means like . I can't think of an example so feel free to give your own.

>>155413496
Yeah, that's true, I guess she is useful in that sense. Yeah, damn, you make a good point. I guess she's not really gonna replace Irey or Jai anytime soon, I just don't particularly like her.

I prefer them being called Thunderheart and Surge over kid flash, it's more unique, even if those names do kinda suck.

>>155414587
Nice.

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>>155414587
Ok these are peak.

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>>155415160
True and hey we thought the same with spider man, also yeah IHF is fun and really good read very much a example of dumb fun and a unique take on the older young girl concept. That they do a sad fate. Anything with JL is instant loser shit lol especially kid JL's. Irey is lucky they didn't shipbait her. The problem with the kid lanterns is they try to push them into the main so they get in adult situations plus concepts of the ring leans to trauma. I think supersons and books like spider boy are some of the rare made for kids/easier to get into kid books around. They would be but they'll probably be adults by 2030 with how they are doing things, they are aging kids up left and right in dc right now.

He is a hero and they have to do the tough thing, look at batman. Also idk speed trap or maybe just stopping him and reporting him to the school. Sometimes being defeated is enough, I mean he's not a speedster so maybe a speed trap or using some form of speedforce siphon. I do hope he does something, better than nothing. Ah see that''s the start of all evil, that it doesn't like primer, she should be god tier because of her insane powers but it's a graphic novel so who cares. Well princess fisk in moon girl, or the one popular evil mind control girl from moon girl as well. Boyd spider from spider boy, toymaker in supersons iirc, and also klarion in most comics he appears in like wonder woman vs giganta.

Well I didn't know either of these names so kind of shows how relevant they are. I hear surge I think idw anon. Plus kid flash gets more screen time if jai was kid flash he'd be in the titans ot young justice maybe more flash comics.

She really is also idk about that think she might just replace them. Being a of age hot bubbly speedster girl is kind of easy fap bait. Already saw nsfw of her and fanart before her first comic even dropped. She just had a concept image and people were simping for her she was even in the miss co list iirc.

>>155417154
Yeah, but I think Marvel are more trigger happy when it comes to killing off their characters. Not that DC don't, it's just rare to see from them. Also, death is never permanent in comics. I'll admit, I really haven't read much JL. Also, I'm a liar, Irey doesn't appear in GL Lagacy, the book is called GL Alliance. I'm sure I've seen some fanart of them shipped together, then again, I've also seen some fanart of him shipped with Jai. I'm really not that knowledgeable on lantern lore, I don't think Tai has ever appeared in a mainline GL book, but I could be wrong. I did read C.O.R.T. children of the round table and that was a pretty good limited series for kids. Nothing special, but it was fine and inoffensive. God I hope they don't age the twins up, they work so much better as kids.

Batman & Wally are fundamental different. Batman would 100% take down Damian if he found out he was doing some evil shit. Wally isn't like that, he doesn't have contingency plans. If he found out Jai was evil, he'd fight off any hero that came their way while also trying his best to talk Jai down. He's a man who believes in reform, half his friends are old villians. There ain't nothing he wouldn't do for his kids. What's a speed trap? I'm imagining something like glue paper, but surely that would only stop him if he was fast? Honestly, me too, North's run on the Flash has been so unenjoyable for me down to how infrequently he uses Wally's supporting cast. Jai & Irey show up for 2 panels and maybe say 1 irrelevant thing each before disappearing off to school. They're superpowered twins, why does North have no idea how to use them. One day, cookies. The next day, the world. I've heard of primer, and I really should read her book at some point. Kid villians are fun and interesting, but I think there's better opportunities if both twins remain good. Just put them both in a team book, or make a spinoff series called adventures of the West twins. There's so much more they could do.

>>155417154
Yeah, they hardly ever use their superhero names. I have only ever referred to them as Jai and Irey. It would be interesting if Jai did become kid flash, even though he can't run fast.

I doubt everyone at DC is a gooner, also the twins have the benefit of having 20+ years of history. I've seen a bit of Judy fanart, but really not much. Not as much as Irey, but that makes sense since they're older. I'll be honest, idk how many people care about Judy. Maybe I'm just not talking to the right people, but I've never heard anyone say their favourite flash character is Judy.

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