The Miracleman rumors were true.
so is this marvel's doomsday clock or is there a way it could work
>>155423416Fuck.
>>155423416#RapeChipZdarsky
>>155423416Cool Carol
>>155423416I refuse to give a fuck about miracleman. I'm just not going to do it.
>>15542341615 years late.
>>155423416>the world is ending, comicbros! i hope we will have a massive team up of all of our most popular IP. i hope they don't kill off my favorite characterinos, i'll have to buy this comic to make sure he lives!>he dies!oh no! what a waste of a 70-year-old character. i wonder who they'll replace him with, now that marvel can never use him again because he's dead
>>155423668>i wonder who they'll replace him with, now that marvel can never use him again because he's deadThey'll introduce the legacy character Manmiracle, an atheist who was bitten by a radioactive divine intervention as a child, and has some VERY strategically limp hot takes about topical political current events
>>155423416This just looks straight up AI art.Maybe it isn't. Maybe I am just poisoned.But the line thickness and compositing.
>>155423735Its the beard. The beard looks very out of place because theres no linework, its purely done in coloring, which makes it look like there is style inconsistency and thus fake and AI.
>>155423429MM: *BUUUUUUUURP* Supermen can’t live amongst Men.spider peter: but…they can :)MM: Wow that’s deep. It’s.
>>155423416Kimota…
>>155423416So this guy going to be 616 Miracleman?
>>155423416Is that Colton?
>>155423759>Its the beard.It's less a beard, more just five o'clock shadow, which looks kinda weird in Cho's style
>>155423416>>155423834Wait a minute...
>>155423429remember when Blue Marvel? like that, but even less traction because Marvelman is British
>>155423924Was Blue Marvel ever a big thing?Outside of the original writer, the only two who cared were Al Ewing and Christopher Cantwell
I'm sure this makes Alan Moore unhappy, which means it makes me happy.
>>155423881kek>>155424037alan moore doesn't give a shit. it doesn't surprise him anymore and he's made that quite clear. you're obsessed with him though which means you saw yourself in one of his fanboy criticisms and took it personally
>We can't just use Hyperion because... reasons>We can't just use The Sentry because... reasons>We just can't just use The Blue Marvel because... reasons
>>155424037Moore doesn't care about Miracleman anymore ever since he asked Marvel to remove his name from his work
>>155424092>>155424077That's because he found out that they were fucking over the original creator when he was doing his run >>155424082Hyperion is barely a character, he's just a superman parody from another dimension, BM and Sentry wouldn't make sense going fascist route
>>155424210Hyperion kinda weird since he has had multiple characterisations depending on the versionLike the Hickman one from his Avengers had a decent amount of character
>>155423416>There was a Miracleman on 6160.>Some literal who got his powers.This is all Miles' fault.
For FUCKS sake.
>>155423416Post the link to bleedingcool faggot
>>155423416>>155425879 >https://bleedingcool.com/comics/scoop-official-confirmation-of-that-avengers-armageddon-spoiler/
Colton becoming Miracleman
>>155426076Colton becoming Miracleman (2)
>>155426076>>155426093hmm, in hindsight it seems like I could have guessed.So there's a Miracleman in the Ultimate Universe, and Coulson just stole his powers? Or he has fake memories like OG Miracleman did?
>>155423416Well now we see Marvel’s actual response to what Gaiman did.First Buckingham said he no longer wants to work on Miracleman, now they’re making sure they turn the character into something that makes it now feel it’s created really by a corporation.
>>155426093Now to lead your fellow slaves out of Egypt or something idk what a Miracleman does.
>>155423735>This just looks straight up AI art.>Maybe it isn't. Maybe I am just poisoned.>But the line thickness and compositing.It's Michael Cho, who's done good work in the past, similar to Darwyn Cooke's style. He usually does an traditional ink drawing and colors in Photoshop.
Marvel has more supermans than dc.
>>155423735> Maybe I am just poisoned.It's this
>>155426076>>155426093Is it weird that I kinda dig this
>>155426224I mean yeah because DC has the superman so everyone else looks like a lame imitation next to him while marvel doesn't have any definitive superman copycat because none of them are great.
>>155426402it's not literally Miracleman, it seems, so I guess it's just some regular guy inherited Miracleman's power boost and Fascism
>>155426224Do they? How close a copy does somebody need to be?'Strong flying bulletproof guy' covers a lot of characters.
For one I'm glad that they didn't gave Colton outright Sentry's power. I sure hope Sentry'll come back in style one day and set all this shit right, World War Bob is long overdue.>>155426477It was only fascism if you have a mind of drug-addled 70's bong hippie. Same with 90% of """socio-political commentary""" in Hellblazer.
>>155426566Sentry already came back. He's currently just doing quirk chungus shit with his Dog because Marvel finally got fed up of letting Jenkins wank his OC
>>155426566who cares about sentry.
>>155426486HyperionWundarrEthan EdwardsSun GodGladiatorBlue MarvelSentrySome of these are very well intended to be Superman, others use Superman as a starting point
>>155426597Let Jenkins have his Starlin moments, I can have Lemire and Remender writing Sentry in-universe and everything will be more than fine. Unless you're one of those faggots still butthurt about retcon shipping in Fallen Sun, in that case fuck off.
>>155423416Honestly don't care about Miracle Man. He is just going to be another Superman analog that's going to be forgotten when Marvel decide to push another Superman analog as the main Superman analog. We already seen examples of this from Wonder Man, Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Luke Cage, and etc.
>>155426752i'm guessing the gist of this event will be that he tries to establish a Super Nazi Utopia with his Miracle Mind.So basically every fan question about "why doesn't Reed Richards cure AIDS???" then Miracleman will cure AIDS, and everyone will argue over whether it's right to cure AIDS, and then either lose a fight and die or feel guilty and fly away.
That's so fucking embarrassing.
>>155426654I do
>>155426076>>155426093I still feel like actual Miracleman has to show up at some point. It'd be utterly bizarre if Colton just randomly used the costume and name
If this origin box came from the Ultimate Universe, that means it's a duplicate of someone's powers in the actual MU, since that was the whole point of the origin boxes, right?So David might have gotten a duplicate set of Miracleman powers, sure. But there needed to be a real Miracleman somewhere in the MU that the origin box was "sourced" off of, right?
>>155427126>>155427202Maybe. My real question is, if Colton already has MM's powers what exactly does him using the transformation actually do? I'm assuming it gives him a different personality and maybe another power boost
>>155426076>>155426093Not bad.
>>155423934he was a thing Marvel did because they'd already done Sentry introducing Marvelman to 616 would get even less traction; remember when they made Angela Thor's secret sister? and the whole thing was dumb and forgettable but if you knew why they were doing it, you just shrugged and said yeah, fuck Todd McFarlane and all those other assholes for getting paid what was owed to Mick Anglo all those years, if not you probably forgot alreadythis is part of that same reckoning but obviously less urgent because it's not part of a legal settlement, but it'll go away in a few years anyway, just like nobody really believes Shazam is a DC character no matter how hard they push their hand up his corpse's ass
>>155426076>>155426093Coulton was already "Slap Captain Marvel in to space" strong before, but now he's also Miracle Man?
>>155426199Not him, but something is kinda off about it. For me, it doesn't remind me of AI, but moreso that this is the style that cheap motion comics like to emulate.
>>155423429>is this marvel reconstructing miraclemanNo, are you fucking retarded?
>>155423668They're replace him with a woman. Prepare for Captain Marvel in the MCU 3.0 aka Miracle-Woman!
>>155428137Why bother with in-between then instead of just introducing such a person?
>>155427455Carol is a heavy hitter but she is only a mid-tier heavy hitter as oppose to a top-tier heavy hitter like Thor and Hulk.
>>155428159Because they have to tear down the old first. Haven't you ever read a modern Marvel comic?
>>155427202I think it was just the boxes are based on how history was SUPPOSED TO go in the Ultimate Universe but didn't because of The Maker's meddling in their history. (Even though that's not how time travel works in the comics but they keep ignoring that.)
Imagine letting a hack like CHIP rape Miracleman
>>155428272The old is already torn down.
>>155428299Yes & they'll do it again to transition to their hecking stronk independent womyn replacement. Again. Mark my words.
>>155426076>>155426093So... What? This guy also has a cloned superhuman body to swap with?
>>155428137There's already a Miraclewoman in Moore's run.
>>155428408Even more precedent then.
>>155428234Nah she can beat up Thor and Hulk and has done so in the pastShe's just a battery so writers can power her up and down as needed
>>155423416Oh wow just like my silver age comics!! Because that's the reason why Miracleman is remembered, yeah. This variant will make sense only if they make something very meta, referencing those old comics
>>155423791IT'S
>>155428297Moore did it first
>>155428337I doubt they've cared to think any of that through.Moore's Miracleman not only shouldn't exist without the Qys interspace but anyone who didn't go through Gargunza's extremely violating genetic and psychological experiments saying Kimota should do nothing.
And marville asks why DC is running circles around them
>>155426199Okay that certainly makes sense for why it would look that way.
>>155423416Who is that?
>>155431104David Colton, 9/11 Captain America.
>>155424210Sentry's whole point is being skitzo. Working in a side that is fascist would be easy.
So do we know who's dying in this stupid event yet?
>>155423416wow
The real question is: will David have his very own Johnny Bates?
>>155433102It seems not
>>155432241not yet
>>155426093 his armored captain America gear looked so much better. now he looks like a giant fag.
>>155432241Bucky
How the fuck did cucky reed get miracle mans powers
>>155433791It just works. You have people who have DNA-specific reactions to drugs replicated.
>>155426076>>155426093>already strong after he got buffed>now has a second phase formneat
>>155426076>>155426093So instead of the Void being his schizo, his is Miracle Man?
>>155433762Sounds plausible with him getting a bigger role in the last issue. I know people were saying Falcon and Vision are the other possibilities but they've barely even done anything in this story.
>>155426076>>155426093Geez, Colton, why do you have a phase two?
>>155428291remember, for some reason 6160 is an exception to time travel rules, which is why they also need to suddenly end it?
Christ Colton is some of the most wasted potential , dude should have been the new Nomad not whatever the fuck this retardation is
>>155434357Nomad seems to be a dead end. Both Jack and Rikki met horrible fates.
>>155426093>>155426076So its not the previous Miracleman?
>>155433762>>155434089I definitely think it's Bucky because of the Avengers Doomsday rumor saying Bucky will die, so this would seem like some kind of psuedo-synergy
>>155423416Who cares? It’s as if DC made Stardust the Super Wizard canon.
>>155435864That would be much more fun than this
>>155435826Zdarsky is also the writer of Captain America, so it makes sense for him to make that call
>>155423429>>155428086“doomsday clock is reconstructing”What the fuck are you talking about /r/edditcuck
>>155426076>>155426093My FUARKINGGGGGGGGGGGG HERO!!!
>>155428337>>155435703Im guessing he clonebody swapped with the 6160 Miracleman the way Mike Moran bodyswaps. Like he hijacked the other guy’s Miracleman
>>155435703No, but it does imply that a version of Michael “Miracleman” Moran does indeed exist on Earth-616.Wouldn’t surprise me if they decide to actually bring the original Miracleman to the main comics, they add the retcon that the Miracleman from Moore’s run actually came from Earth-616 and sought to start over again in a different universe a la Dr. Manhattan at the end of Watchmen or the start of Doomsday Clock.
>>155436017You know, I can actually see them doing this. Moore didn’t really expand much on what Miracleman was doing between his last adventure and when the start of Moore’s story came out so it would leave that part open for editorial to exploit.
>>155423416I'd say "please don't be shit," but we all know it'll be shit anyway.The only question is HOW shit will it be, on a scale from "entirely forgotten the day after the event finishes" to "the consequences of this will make everything related to it shit for years to come."
>>155436017>on Earth-616.Don't you mean 6160? Since Colton's powers originally came from the Ultimate universe?
They make it clear btw that before the Super-Soldier buff and then the cube granted him more powers... Kimota was a word that Colton already knew
>>155436122So are the Origin Box powers not related to the Miracle Man powers? Does this mf now have three different, unrelated powersets?
>>155423416Neil Gaiman must rolling over in his grave
>>155436140Supersoldier – original human powersOrigin Box – gave his human form Miracleman powers, supersoldier now irrelevantKimota Secret Word – bodyswapped him with Miracleman, who has the same powers but a different mind (if it works like in Moore’s run)
>>155423881good timesgonna read this again
>>155431999>9/11 Captain America?
>>155436338cap is unfrozen pretty recently nowcolton was the afghanistan cap in the same vein as nuke was for vietnam
>>155436078No, Earth-616.You misunderstand, Earth-6160 is an exact replica of 616, which was why the Maker intervened in the development of its heroes to see how his experiments changed the course of history. By this logic, this would suggest that a Miracleman belonging to this world should exist given the dual natures of both universes being more or less the same, except one of them got fucked over by evil Reed Richards.
>>155435864>DC made Stardust the Super Wizard canonHe is in the public domain, whereas Miracleman is Marvel's property. They can do whatever they want with him. And if Marvel hadn't republished the comics featuring him, he would have faded into obscurity.
>>155436571>, Earth-6160 is an exact replica of 616It's very clearly not, do you people actually read comics or do you just watch YT videos?
>>155436024Wasn't it explained in the book that he was found by some authorities in his child human form with Amnesia?
>>155436649No, he was an Orphan of RAF parents that died.
>>155436668That was before he became MM, though this was after the british govement nuke him
>>155436623I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you’re not iliterate but please read the entire post again.
>>155436623Retard
>>155436177What terrible fanfiction.
>>155426093
>>155436122Jesus Fucking Christ this shit is long past into mary sue territory. Is Zardusky a ginger?
>>155437149no
>>155437178Well at least he has some shame
>>155437053niggas were really trying to cope that his was Carol lmao
>>155437053So Colton is a member of the new Avengers, taking the role of the Sentry in this New Avengers pastiche
>>155437149He's like Sentry but his second form is literally another stronger version of himself. Changing form to more mentall ill lmao
>>155437929>already as strong as Sentry>has another form that makes him even strongercan't wait for other writers to use him as a punching bag
>>155437989Then excused it as>Actually they only defeated Base Colton and not Miracleman!
>ColtonSentry victim.
>>155432212>>155427079>>155438197Noone cares about your Mary Sue cuckold self-insert, Jenkins.
>MiracleMELTY
Settle down girls, both Colton and Sentry are garbage
>MOGS MiracleFAG
>>155437053Ok but if we’re having colton on the team what’s the use for carol?
>>155438384her role is to job to make Colton look better, duh
>>155438384Team's gloryhole.
>>155438374What was that?I couldn’t hear you over Paul Jenkins desperately trying to plagiarise Miracleman, and the sounds of Lindy’s moans from her gym instructor
>>155438408>something Jenkins personally debunked on XitterMiracleNIGGER.
>>155438384On paper? To tard wrangle Colton. In reality? They have to keep putting her out there to keep DC from reclaiming the Cap Marvel name.
>>155438384Fleshlight.
>>155438427He literally confirmed it there. Your self-insert’s a poorly written cuckold only shilled by total manchildren.Don’t you have a Death Battle thread to be bullied on, right now?
>>155424082This is ironic because Marvel only made Sentry in the first place because they couldn’t use Miracleman.Now they finally have the character they want instead of Paul Jenkin’s cringy crybaby OC.
>>155438472>schizo DELUSIONSKWAB.
Thor MOGS both.
>>155432212Sentry’s whole point is having the Coldsteel “you don’t wanna see my BIPOLAR” darkside form every 13 year old ever thinks is cool when their XBox gets taken away.Doesn’t translate into suddenly wanting a centralised system of government.
>>155438384Wasn't scuttlebutt she was going to be depowered and be another Venom since her bff is Carnage right now
Give Colton to Ewing.
>>155438705Do you have a source for that other than the person that constantly posts images of the Ms. Marvel Venom from that story she ripped Scorpion out of the symbiote somehow?
>>155436017That's such an awful retcon I can see it happening
>>155436122So Colton will have three different powerset. That's OP as fuck.
>>155436155Rolling in his sex dungeon you mean?
>>155436761>>155436776Where is the part where it said that it is an exact replica?
>>155436177Colton is gonna be OP as fuck, even more than Void Sentry.
>>155423601Indeed. '92 that man to death.
“Bring Miracleman to me”
>>155436177>This isn't even my final form
>>155439451>power of the Sentry>still bound to a wheelchair
>>155428944No, Moore raped Kid Miracleman
>>155439451What was Marvel thinking with this character (same with the new silver surfer)?, I assume they failed because we never saw them again.
>has no idea who this Colton is>looks him upOh my god the sliding timeline means Captain America was unfrozen AFTER 9/11 NOW???
>>155439637Yes. "Vaguely 15 years or so ago" means 9/11 was in the past.
>>155439615That was happening when Sentry was supposed to be played by that Asian dude and when it turned out that Pullman was picked, the writer, who is Asian, was seething and did this.
>>155439654I've always been of the opinion "15 years ago" in comic book time, can easily be 40 years ago in real time. Bleh.
