>go on xitter >look at account complaining about vivziepop>turns out that years ago she used to draw /ss/ art of her characters from ZoophobiaIm thinking based
Higher resolution version of the drawing of Kess/Kestral and Mirage.
hazbin could use some /ss/
Pedo board.
This looks borderline John K, Guy must be seething rn.>>155505400Betz spotted in a Hazbin thread? No way!
The strange thing about some of the complaints is that mirage is clearly a villain. She’s not portrayed positively.
>>155505306>The easy way or the hard wayI just know viv based it off the booty warrior episode
>>155505400That would be /tv/, sir
>>155505502Does that mean she is gonna peg him?
>>155505501fandom kids think that portraying something evil in fiction (without a giant neon sign in-show flashing that it's EVIL) or making a jokes about evil things is the same as endorsing it, there's no saving them.
I wonder how this will play out in the zoophobia mini series thats coming out.
>>155505569just like abrahamists from generations past. some things never change. indie toon fandoms really are the divisive churches arguing over canon and making their own churches with art cards and waifus.
>>155505541Naw this loves masturbating to kids lmao>inb4 not real kidslol
>>155505569some people didn't like how flippant it was.
>>155505175inbetween this and the nazi shit it's nothing short of a miracle that she was able to get a netflix deal and it's proof that if you have an appealing enough artstyle people literally won't care how bad of a person you are.
>>155505292 >>155505306 I think these sketches might be art of mirage and addison (rather than kestrel).
>>155507338>nazi shitNever heard of that one. Explain?
>>155507433
>>155507480oh that's fucking nothing
>>155507513yeah but other creators have been outright blacklisted for much less than shit like this, it's madness
>>155505175God her artstyle is so fucking bad
>>155507338>>155507480>>155507513yeah this stuff is a nothing burger
>>155507480>>155507513I guess all that matters is that she makes enough money for everyone that getting rid of her isn't viable right now.Admittedly, if this and the /ss/ thing is all she's done thats 'bad', then I don't think she should be fired for it.
>>155507535>yeah but other creators have been outright blacklisted for much less than shit like this, it's madnessany examples that come to mind?
>>155507781luke weber got blacklisted and reduced to a snarky twitter reply guy for drawing this selfship art so I have no idea why doing art trades with people named "i-hate-jewce" is a-ok all of a sudden
>>155507338>>155507535Anon, she doesn't get blacklisted. She DOES the blacklisting. What should actually have gotten her in trouble with the public is her horrible labor practices. Why do you think her studio has a lawsuit filed against them?
>>155507880>Why do you think her studio has a lawsuit filed against them?What's happened?
>>155507848It seems there was other stuff that got him blacklisted. Lots of other people draw selfship art without getting blacklisted.
>>155505175if you're a cartoonist, you have definitely indulged yourself with your drawings in a sexual way before. and if you haven't, you're either lying or not really a cartoonist. I think more artists should be more open about it, but you can't really right now with puritanism getting worse every year and those retards not being able to separate reality from fantasy and real people from drawings or other artwork.
>>155505501>loves creeping on kidsis drawn to be an tall attractive woman. what did viv mean by this?
>>155507480>art trade with @i-hate-jewce...oh
You're all idiots.
>>155508002>what did viv mean by this?she's an /ss/ fan?
>>155507848>i-hate-jewceNormalfags are heartless cattle wretches that have no virtue on their own, other than ganging on what is socially aceptable at the moment.
>>155507912There's an active lawsuit that was filed with the United States Department of Labor. The studio has a 50 percent turnover rate, blatant favoritism, HR is ran by Viv's best friend who has her own allegations, certain artists are worked to the bone with tight deadlines, etc. I could go on
>>155507480Lmao, is that fucking Sausage Party fanart?
>>155507480People are crazy. When I hear 'artist controversially drawing Nazi shit' I think 'What, did they draw a concert poster for a neo-nazi punk band or something?'But no, it's just Hitler as a faggy bottle of sauerkraut which is historically accurate.
>>155508044Well shit. I had no idea. I don't really pay attention to the behind the scenes stuff and only recently looked into anything by Vizie. Didn't know it was that fucking bad.
>>155508045>>155508046>>155508022yeah it does just seem to be sausage party fanart. The only weird thing about it is the name of the other user.
>>155508083I got something to confessI've jerked off to the sausage party orgy at least once month since it came out
>>155508069Viv has blacklisted her artists from working with other indie projects and lied about Ashley grooming Michael Kovach. There's a reason a lot of pilot crew mates she was very close to do not associate with her anymore. Most recently, her former friend and employee made a unicorn comic portraying her as an evil pig witch that isn't what she seems, a portrayal that Ashley agreed with. Antis crying about 10 year old drawings only help paint Viv as the victim of an unwarranted hate mob instead of highlighting her true offenses
>>155508083I think it's referrring to the Hitler bottle hating juice boxes. The i-hate-jewce account is gone now, no idea if they were a neo nazi or they just liked the Hitler bottle/were being provocative
>>155505175wasn't she a fan or harry potter?also viv really likes boys, as in LIKE LIKE.
>>155508251Harry Potter has a lot of fans. How is this relevant?
>>155508223Not gonna lie, this is really fucking funny. No wonder six million wasn’t enough for him
>>155508279Anon cut off his dick and wants to forget about what was normal when he was an adolescent (besides the porn he saw)
>>155508279that she drew the black sisters which are very important characters in the harry potter series perhaps?let me repeat, she DREW harry potter shit and was involved in that fandom, which I remind you was controversial back in the day for many reasons and also that I saw when 4chan spoiled the book where snape died?
>>155508365>which I remind you was controversial back in the day for many reasonsGonna need to elaborate on what you mean by this exactly before I make fun of you anon.
>>155508365Who gives a fuck if someone likes to draw Harry Potter stuff? It's a beloved book series adored by millions. If this is about JKR's thoughts on trannies, sorry to break it to you, but the majority of people either agree with her or don't care. Maybe step outside of your groomcord tranny safe space bubble for a change.
>>155508343gfto of my face with that shit you faggot.
>>155508223>>155508324I looked at some archives and the i-hate-jewce account just seemed to be an account of someone roleplaying as the sauerkraut hitler from sausage party
>>155508400jk rowling didn't go nuts about transgender people at that time the books were coming out and vivziepop was drawing fanart for them.vivziepop definitely disagrees with Jk rowling about her position on that.
>>155508458I dunno about that one, she probably agrees with her on at least some of it.
>>155508483that was from 2014. people change since then, and this was prior to transgender people being a center focus of the culture war.
>>155508498I mean, yeah, true. Viv probably doesn't hate trans people, but she probably doesn't agree with the movement itself and how insane it's gotten.
>>155508251>also viv really likes boys, as in LIKE LIKE.is that a good or bad thing?
>>155508498>>155508521Viv loves trans women, but the rumor is she doesn't like trans men.
>>155508521>>155508521>I mean, yeah, true. Viv probably doesn't hate trans people, but she probably doesn't agree with the movement itself and how insane it's gotten.She's put transgender characters in her show in purely positive portrayals. What are you saying she disagrees with?
>>155508544I'm skeptical of a lot of the rumors around vivziepop disliking lesbians or transmen. It feels like a stretch.
>>155508365>that she drew the black sisters which are very important characters in the harry potter series perhaps?>let me repeat, she DREW harry potter shit and was involved in that fandom, which I remind you was controversial back in the day for many reasons and also that I saw when 4chan spoiled the book where snape died?Why does that matter? Did she draw them doing something weird? Harry potter wasn't that controversial back then, outside of maybe turbo religious groups. It was very popular series and had very popular movies.It's definitely not gonna be more offensive to the Fundy Christians than hazbin hotel or helluva boss.
>>155508559>What are you saying she disagrees with?Most people, including left-leaning people who don't make it their whole personality, don't believe that males should be in female sports, or that kids should be given puberty blockers. They're just quiet about it to avoid being targeted by unhinged TRAs.I feel like if she were deeper in the Gender Kool-Aid there'd be a lot more trans characters, but as is there's just Sallie May. She likely tolerates them and is friendly to ones that aren't overtly insane, but she likely does not like the ones screaming "genocide" over everything.
>>155507848Isn't luke legitimately schizophrenic or something? I seem to remember there was a damn good reason for him getting blacklisted beyond>he was a meanie to women and said hurty things :((((((but it's been a while and I don't really rememberI should read bikini cowboy again at some point, he's still a damn good artist
>>155508544>>155508573https://x.com/vivziereceipts/status/1895339423438643584Lmao it's not a rumor, there's an entire thread with screenshots. IIRC the Pentious design was mocking a trans man she knew but she ended up keeping him due to unexpected fondness for the character
>>155508649>entire account talking about how viv is evil and problematicthat's pathetic
>>155508661>Reads account >Yeah, Viv is actually kinda shitty I see no issue with it, a lot of stans defend her blindly that it's funny to debunk them
>>155508421Ok so these (you) people can go around gleefully ruining the lives of anyone normal in comics and cartoons, but I’m the problem for describing them accurately?“Oh no she’s heterosexual” THAT’S LITERALLY WHAT THE POST YOU REPLIED TO SAID, actual faggot.
Based Viv
>>155508483>controversial ladies I really respect>shoe0nheadBy any chance, would Viv be a fan of Hasan "kill your landlord" Piker? Cuz if so, this is even more hilarious in hindsight.
>>155508690vivziepop is bisexual
>>155508733Isn't the irony being that Hasan is both rich, and his parents own and invest in real estate and rental properties back in Turkey(istan).
>>155508689There is shady stuff surrounding her, but a lot of what people complain about is nothing burgers.
>>155508689Yes, Viv is a petty bitch and needs to pay her workers. But people who make hating her their entire personality and act like she's some supremely evil cunt need to chill out.
>>155508764>>155508733i still can't believe the republican national convention featured his thirst trap photos on a jumbotron slideshow.
>>155508733I hate Stolas and what he did to Helluva Boss but goddammit, he's cute.
>>155508764The irony is that Hasan and Shoe were a thing in recent memory and when they decided to break up, Shoe publicly roasted Hasan for his life choices so badly that he stopped dressing like he was still 18 and started wearing suits. I would think that with Viv being a typical post-college liberal now, any respect she had for Shoe for "speaking her mind" would go out the window after what happened to a fellow comrade like Hasan.
>>155508869It's really not his fault, blitzo has been way worse for the show, but the real problem has always been vivs baffling writing.
>>155507535I wish Millie and Moxxie and Loona weren't trapped in such a shit show.
>>155508950What are you even talking about?
>>155508950>The irony is that Hasan and Shoe were a thing in recent memory and when they decided to break up, Shoe publicly roasted Hasan for his life choices so badly that he stopped dressing like he was still 18 and started wearing suits. Uhh i think you're getting people mixed up
>>155508869>>155508956What I still can't figure out is why not just make a stolas show in the first place? You know, make it an actual "thing" instead of bloated tick of a subplot stuck onto an entirely unrelated premise. A story about a highborn demon leveraging his power to carry out an unhealthy but passionate gay affair with a criminal imp could easily be its own show, would be way more focused, and attract the exact same audience. I don't understand why viv pushed forward with the iteration of HB we got when it's clearly not what she wanted to write.
>>155509173could it be supposed to be a bait and switch tagline/premise?
>>155509029Oh yeah, wow. Definitely got them confused with someone else. I haven't kept up with those two for a while and I had heard they were together, which was fucking weird, but turns out I heard wrong. I've been too busy to keep facts straight with internet drama recently.So, the video in question was about that Prgmata game that came out some time ago and Hasan made comments about how male gamers who play games like that have no intention nor interest in starting a family. Shoe proceeded to eviscerate him for being childless at 35 while wearing designer clothes and living a materialistic life. That's what I should've said.
>>155509199No, I really don't think so, especially early on it was clear they took the original idea somewhat seriously, so I'm forced to assume Viv came to the insane conclusion that she could create what is essentially two entirely separate shows merged into one and that everything would just work out.
>>1555084982016
>>155509592ok, the resolution of the screenshot is bad and i didn't realize the date, but point still holds
>>155509252Kek, based Shoe
i imagine we might see similar complaints about mirage as we see about valentino if she shows up in the zoophobia show.
>>155510265Possibly even worse, since Valentino isn't a pedo.
>>155510281i wouldn't assume valentino is above hurting kids
>>155510329Well, I meant based on what we've seen so far, any way. Meanwhile Mirage is openly a child predator.
>>155509173Viv can't write, and I don't mean she's a bad writer, I mean she is literally incapable of writing a proper narrative. To her, writing is simply a means to an end, something to string together the ideas in her head with no concrete rhyme or reason. The idea of a focused, structured, story, with an intentionally limited scope and cast, is beyond her. It wouldn't even occur to her that such a thing could exist.
>>155508458>nutsFuck off troon lol
>>155505175She literally calls Mirage a sick pedo. What?
>>155508722animators who go to hell have to animate this character spinning at 60fps
>>155505175Post more Vivziepop art.
>>155508789>But people who make hating her their entire personality and act like she's some supremely evil cunt need to chill out.little snot-nosed 14yo twerps that need to finish school & graduate before they come to have intelligent discussions about creative media.click on a random page in the KF floraverse / purplekekleon thread, and it's just a big hoard of 12 year olds with neon pokemon fursonas bitching about discorders acting like discorders. i thought KF was an 18+ only site, but nope.
>>155508365>let me repeat, she DREW harry potter shit and was involved in that fandomOk? Who FUCKING cares if she DREW some shit IN some dumbass FANDOM?
>>155510818toon?
>>155506109You will never be welcome on this website redditor
>s-she liked... Harry p-p-Potter?!?You'd have to completely cut out every white woman between the ages of 22 and 52 to avoid Harry Potter fans.
I dislike Vivziepop but there is nothing wrong with being a fan of Harry Potter
>>155507338Absolutely would.
>>155511114Purplekekleon is a confirmed pedophile
>>155514040its photoshopped to make her fatter
>>155505279>>155505292>>155505306Waiter! Waiter! I want more /ss/! Please >>155508129THIS So much problems could have been solved if people focused on the rights Vivzie treating her employees badly should be highlited not shit she drew while she was on high school or whatever
>>155516181>Waiter! Waiter! I want more /ss/! PleaseThis is the only other official art I could find: >>155507429
>>155505175I now like vivziepop.
>>155511066i dont have any more relevant stuff
>>155516181Even this very thread gives more of a shit about culture war drawings than her orchestrating blacklisting campaigns on her own artists, it's fucking stupid
>>155516181>>155518490Gen Z (and younger millennials) consider stabbing people in the back, conspiring against them, blacklisting them etc to be not just valid but admirable behavior. Why would they have a problem with any of that?
It's not something I'm bothered by, but another thing i've seen people complain about is the art she drew of addison with snakes (which were really a transformed person).
>>155520879for context
